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From YouTube: Weekly e-NABLE Town Hall Meeting - September 9, 2022
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This is a recording of the weekly e-NABLE Town Hall meeting.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: https://bit.ly/e-nable-town-hall-notes
If you want to join into the meeting itself, you are welcome to do so. You'll find the Zoom link in the events calendar on the Hub.
A
Okay,
welcome
everyone
to
another,
enable
town
hall
ben
you
mind
helping
out
with
notes.
A
Thank
you.
Let's
see
no
introductions
action
items.
This
should
be
pretty
quick
because
I
haven't
done
the
first
one.
I
still
need
to
reroute
this
chapter's
email
to
our
help
desk.
It's
just
a
little
bit
more
time
consuming
because
of
the
dns
changes
involved.
So
I
haven't
gotten
to
that.
Yet
just
so
I
know
where,
where
is
that
going
right
now?
Is
that
an
actual
inbox
does
anyone
know
chapters?
C
That
used
to
go
to
john,
because
somebody
wrote
to
chapters
at
one
point
and
then
john
was
writing
back
and
saying
to
us.
Did
you
respond
to
this
and
none
of
us
were
seeing
it
yeah?
Okay,.
A
So
that's
john:
when
he
gets
here
it
might
be
that
it's
a
direct
email
that
he's
monitoring,
but
I'm
going
to
change
that
into
a
group
address
and
then
redirect
it
to
our
help
desk.
I
haven't
gone
to
it
yet
I
just
want
to
know
if
we're
missing
any
emails,
while
we're
waiting
on
me
to
do
that
so
we'll
check
with
john
okay
adam
is
working
to
coordinate
a
meeting
of
this
emerging
leadership
team.
I
know
we've
been
struggling
a
little
bit
to
get
that
going.
D
I
haven't,
I
got,
let
me
go
to
the
last
communication.
I
I
don't
think
I
have
an
update
from
last
week.
Yeah
I
just
I
haven't
had
any
boy
yeah,
it
just
looks
like
eric
bubar
is
the
only
member
who's
responded
to
my
posts
reaching
out
for
responses
for
availability
or
interest
in
meeting?
D
So
I
don't
know
if
maybe
the
hub
is
not
the
right
place
or
if
it's
not
where
people
are
are
used
to
communicating,
because
when
the
when
the
the
team
was
initially
forming,
I
looked
like
there
was
a
group.
If
I
remember
correctly,
there's
a
group
email
sent
out,
it
seemed
like
there
was
pretty
immediate
responses.
A
B
You
know,
I
suspect,
that
it's
going
to
be
a
combination
of
things,
so
asynchronous
can
be
a
lot
easier.
I
think
sometimes
people
are
really
busy
this
time
of
year,
everybody's
starting
in
their
classes.
There's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
folks
are
educators,
but
I
I
do
wonder
if
maybe
we
can
start
trying
to
bring
people
to
these
town
hall
meetings,
sometimes
there's
after
the
town
hall,
there's
a
community
meeting,
but
there's
that
hour
gap
in
between.
So
if,
for
whatever
reason,
that's.
A
Actually
a
related
topic,
then
I
I
seem
to
remember
at
least
a
couple
of
these
people
on
this
team,
mentioning
that
the
town
hall
day
and
time
didn't
work
well
for
them,
so
I
you
know
I
didn't
want
to
get
into
talking
about
moving
the
town
hall
until
we
had
the
input
from
these
folks.
But
that
might
be
part
of
the
problem
here
is
that
they're
tied
up
with
you
know,
classes
or
whatever
jobs
they
have
going
on?
A
B
Well,
whatever
time
we
decide,
I
think
if
we
could
have
the
town
hall
be
hopefully
sort
of
what
we're
aiming
to
bring
people
into
and
then
have
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer
after
it
whenever
whenever
it
is.
If
we
can
find
a
time
that
sort
of
has
a
little
bit
of
spillover,
that
might
be
an
opportunity
to
get
some
folks
involved
in
kind
of
general
things,
and
then
we
can
have
these
kind
of
focused
discussions.
B
A
That's
a
good
idea
and
I'm
I'm
flexible
if,
if
the
decision
is
that
some
other
day
or
time
works
better,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
change
these.
We
just
want
to
be
sensitive
to
our
international
community
as
well.
Ideally
I'd
like
to
have
it
earlier
in
the
day
so
that
people
overseas
can
join
if,
if
they're
interested,
but
whatever
whatever
works
for
everyone,
I'm
I'm
flexible,
like
I
said
all
right,
so
we'll
try,
we'll
try
reaching
out
by
email
and
we'll
see.
A
D
Okay,
I'll
get
on
that
after
this
call.
Okay.
A
Thanks
adam
thanks,
thanks
for
being
persistent
with
it
takes
time
sometimes
john
and
ben
meet
with
ian.
Has
that
meeting
happened,
but
internally.
B
B
B
The
new
intern
student
did
meet
with
the
nih
folks,
so
he's
got
something
to
share.
Ian
was
out
of
town
today.
The
education
meeting
was
originally
scheduled
for
today,
but
we've
rescheduled
it
for
monday,
the
19th
which
actually,
I
think,
works
out,
really
pretty
well
and
he's
going
to
have
his
intern.
B
There
were
two
intern
spots
and
I
know
that
I've
heard
one
is
already
all
set
on
board
and
the
other,
I'm
not
sure.
So
it's
definitely
time
to
to
connect
with
ian.
You
know
again,
I
know
he's
out
today.
B
It
sounded
like
he's,
got
some
sort
of
like
beginning
of
the
year
orientation
stuff
going
on,
but
maybe
next
week
john
and
I
can
try
to
meet
with
him
and
then
the
week
after
on
monday,
he'll
be
giving
up
sort
of
hosting
the
education
meeting
for
the
month
and
his
intern
will
be
or
our
intern.
The
enable
intern
for
the
fall
will
be
presenting
sort
of
the
current
state
of
the
project.
B
A
Okay,
because
last
time
we
did
that
in
the
town
hall
we
had
the
interns,
join
us
here
and
introduce
themselves
and
present
their
projects.
I
know
I'd
like
to
see
that
you
think
the
educational
meetup
is
a
better
place
because
we're
talking
about
the
device
catalog,
it's
not
really,
educational
specific.
Is
it.
B
Right
so
the
I
mean
I'm
thinking
both
would
be
great.
So
if
we
could
get
maybe
next
town
hall,
I
could
send
an
email
to
ian
I'll
write
a
reminder
for
myself.
A
B
B
Yeah
yeah,
if
I
can,
if
I
can
connect
with
ian,
maybe
we
can
bring
in
the
interns
next
friday
and
then
that
following
monday,
they
can
participate
in
the
education
meeting
and-
and
I
think
too,
it's
just
basically
a
great
opportunity
for
all
the
schools
to
to
share
more
or
less
what
what
their
plans
are
for
the
fall.
B
Okay,
there's
been
a
couple
schools
that
have
posted
in
the
hub
that
are
trying
to
set
up
chapters
at
high
schools
or
colleges,
and
maybe
we
can
just
bring
some
of
those
voices
together,
and
I
know
specifically
one
post
was
asking
about
how
do
I
set
up.
You
know,
I'm
a
teacher,
I'm
interested.
What
do
I
do.
A
On
that
note,
I
don't
know
if
I
will
be
able
to
join
that
educational
meetup.
It
doesn't
always
work
for
my
schedule.
If
I'm
not
able
to
be
there
ben
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
love
to
explore.
Is
you
know
how
we
we
have
for
a
long
time
been
producing
these
kits
with
the
phoenix
being
the
most
popular
one,
we're
actually
getting
we're,
probably
going
to
have
to
drop
the
cyborg
beast
kit
soon.
A
They
have
not
been
popular
for
a
long
time
and
the
cost
of
those
chicago
screws
that
go
into
the
cyborg.
Beast
has
just
doubled
recently,
and
so
we
are
probably
gonna
have
to
drop
those
kits,
and
so
I
wanted
to
explore
if
there's
a
new
kit
that
we
should
be
exploring
for
one
of
our
other
newer
designs,
and
it
would
be
nice
especially
for
the
educators,
they're
they're,
one
of
the
groups.
A
That
really
seems
to
value
those
kits
to
be
able
to
bring
them
more
easily
into
the
classroom,
maybe
seeing
if
they
have
a
specific
interest
in
kits
for
a
particular
design
that
they'd
like
to
explore.
That
would
be
really
helpful
for
me
to
know.
If
there's
one
that
people
would,
you
know
value
most.
A
Well,
right
now,
once
we
drop
the
cyborg
beast,
we're
going
to
be
down
to
just
the
phoenix
kids,
so
I
want
it
like.
I
said
I
want
to
add
something
else.
I
mean
I've
thought
about
doing
something
for
the
kinetic,
but
the
kinect
doesn't
really
need
a
lot
of
hardware.
I
mean
so
it'd
be
kind
of
a
slim
kit.
We
could,
I
mean,
there's
still
some
components,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
of
as
much
value,
maybe
as
something
else.
So
just
looking
for
input.
B
Boy,
I
wonder
this
is
sort
of
off
the
cuff,
but
a
bionics
kit
could
be
pretty
interesting.
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussions.
Yes,
I
wouldn't.
A
With
that
space
I
would
love
to
explore
it.
Maybe
that's-
maybe
I
should
try
to
get
into
the
next
bionic
team
meeting,
get
some
guidance
from
them.
That's
a
really
good
idea.
Then.
B
That'd
be
great,
and
I
know
alberto
from
italy
presented,
he's
been
doing
a
lot
of
research
on
sort
of
boiling
things
down
to
you
know
not
the
lowest
common
denominator,
but
what
would
be
you
know?
What
is
enough
strength?
You
know
in
terms
of
the
you
know
the
hardware,
the
communication,
bus
or
whatever
it
is
all
the
pieces
that
fit
together.
You
know
how?
B
How
slim
can
you
get
and
still
have
it
be
functional,
and
I
think
you
know
asking
that
that
group
sort
of
how
you
know
which
device
would
be
a
good
learning
exactly
yeah.
A
Because
I
could
see
two
ways
to
go
with
that:
one
would
be
to
pick
a
specific
design
and
make
a
kit
that
has
like
our
other
kits.
That
has
exactly
what
you
need
to
make
a
device.
I
could
also
see
doing
almost
kind
of
like
an
experimenter's
kit
for
bionics
that
just
has
a
bunch
of
different
components
that
you
could
use
to
explore.
You
know
bionics,
so
yeah,
I'm
gonna
have
to
try
to
get
into
the
educational
and
bionics
meeting
to
see
what
would
be
of
most
of
most
value.
A
If
anyone
has
ideas,
I'm
all
ears,
okay,
so
we'll
move
on.
Let's
see
john
and
ben's
that
we
just
covered
that
one
and
then
the
last
one
is
for
me
to
share
our.
We
talked
last
time
I
have.
I
have
some
of
these
public-facing
knowledge
based
articles
through
our
help
desk
that
I
hadn't
even
really
realized.
A
Where
is
it?
I
got
it
here
somewhere.
A
I
can't
even
find
which
page
I
have
on
here,
but
yeah
somewhere.
I
have
a
knowledge
base
that
has
a
bunch
of
enable
related
articles
and
I
got
to
share
those
with
you
ben.
I
haven't
gotten
to
it,
but
I
will
so
I'll
leave
that
action
item
on
here
for
me
and
we'll
figure
out.
If
that's
something
we
can,
we
can
make
use
of
great.
So,
let's
move
on
here's
our
stats
for
the
week.
A
I
don't
think
there
was
anything
much
out
of
the
ordinary
here,
a
reminder
that
our
number
of
chapters
is
is
very
much
in
question
right
now,
because
we
are
long
overdue
for
a
chapter
audit.
I
don't
think
there's
anything
else
here,
really
that
we
need
to
talk
about.
So
when
we
go.
B
I
did
I
responded
yesterday,
the
I
think
it
was
in
the
evening,
though
I
was
going
to
mention
that
too,
when,
when
jeremy
brought
up
the
audit,
there's
there's
some
prior
questions
that
I
can.
I
can
do
some
digging
and
come
up
with
some
questions.
I
in
the
message
responding
to
you.
B
I
remember
that
when
bob
had
done
audits
in
the
past,
there
was
some
confusion
related
to
just
in
how
the
question
was
set
up
in
in
relation
to
sort
of
basically
how
many
people
are
in
a
chapter
so
asking
questions
about.
B
You
know
how
many
part-time
full-time
staff,
how
many
volunteers,
how
many
device
recipients
and
putting
those
three
together
as
sort
of
the
the
total
number
of
chapter
members
or
deciding
on
you
know
what
is
the
criteria
for
membership
could
be
helpful
because
I
think
the
last
time
you
know
volunteers
or
sort
of
separate
in
how
it
was
tallied.
B
In
last
year's
annual
report,
I
pulled
together
basically
all
the
members
of
each
chapter,
including
the
device
users
as
being
sort
of
part
of
their
that
membership
number,
because
it
made
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
and
we
want
to
try
to
encourage
sort
of
the
feedback
and
the
relationships
and
they
have
a
very
valuable
role
there.
The
other
thing
was
devices
produced
versus
devices
delivered.
You
know
you
can
you
can
make
a
whole
bunch
of
devices
and
you
can
deliver.
B
You
know
a
lot
less
devices
and
it
could
you
know,
potentially
you
can
be
sending
multiple
devices
to
one
user
so
clarifying
that
the
questions
that
you
ask
can
make
the
data
a
lot
easier
for
us
for,
like.
C
A
new
world-
I
was
more
looking
at
the
audit
part
because
I've
been
working
on
an
autoresponder
that
will
actually
use
the
email
addresses
in
the
chapter
spreadsheet
and
I
think
I
can
actually
send
a
personalized
form
to
each
individual
in
person
and
the
auto
responder
will
keep
track
of
it.
But
I
wanted
to
know
if
you
guys
wanted
to
put
together
some
sort
of
a
template
of
questions.
Well,.
A
We've
done
that
before
rick.
So
before
you
go
recreating
the
wheel,
we
have
the
benchmark
email
platform
where
we
can
easily
mass
email.
Everybody
on
the
chapter's
email
list
is
what
we
did
last
time.
We
can
send
them
all
to
a
google
form.
They
fill
out.
The
google
form
and
all
the
responses
go
into
a
spreadsheet
in
a
nice
organized
list,
so
you'd
have
all
the
responses
in
one
place.
So
that's
what
we
did
last
time
all
you'd
have
to
do
is
edit.
Our
current
google
form
to
make
it.
A
A
I
also
I
did
want
to
comment
quickly
on
something
that
ben
said
just
to
offer
a
different
perspective.
I
understand
completely
where
you're
coming
from
then
with
when
you,
when
you
did
the
counting
to
include
recipients
in
the
numbers,
I
I
see
it
a
little
bit
differently.
While
I
completely
agree
that
they're
an
important
part
of
the
ecosystem,
I
think
when
we
look
at
chapters
and
the
number
of
people
in
a
chapter,
it's
almost
kind
of
like
an
expression
of
their
capacity
to
be
able
to
help
people
in
their
surrounding
area.
A
You
know
a
bigger
chapter
with
more
people
available
to
help
people
that
need
devices
is
kind
of
what
we
want
to
know
about,
and
so,
unless
those
recipients
are
genuinely
plugged
in
and
actively
helping
other
cases
and
helping
other
people,
I
would
say
maybe
they
shouldn't
be
included
in
the
numbers
just
because
I
don't
think
it
really
adds
meaning
to
you
know
what
the
actual
capacity
of
that
chapter
is
to
help
other
people.
D
So
that
that,
actually,
if
I
may
jump
in
that,
speaks
to
something
that
has
been
bugging
me
for
a
little
while
you
mentioned
an
audit
process,
do
we
as
part
of
our
onboarding?
D
I
I
feel
like
each
chapter
should
have
some
kind,
some
kind
of
identification
system,
whether
it's
alphanumeric
or
something
else,
so
that
we
can
drill
down
and
establish
some
kind
of
mnemonic
framework.
To
say
like
this,
is
you
know
the
rochester
chapters?
Oh,
I
think
I'm
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
background
noise.
D
It's
time,
yeah
no
worries,
but
you
know
so.
If
the
rochester
a
chapter
were
to
print,
you
know
70
devices
for
50
patients,
we
would
have
like
rny
device.
One
two,
eight,
you
know
hyphen
so
you're
talking.
A
B
Mastery
is
really
keen
on
this
and
and
he's
had.
I
mean
circling
back
to
masby
when
when
the
time
is
right,
he's
got
a
really
interesting
idea
of
you
know,
basically
being
able
to
sort
of
print
out
like
a
little
qr
code,
exactly
tagging
tagging
the
devices
and
where
they
go,
and
you
know.
D
A
New
component
and
potentially
that
could
link
to
you
know
if
we
can
pull
together
some
kind
of
a
database
where
we
have
you
know
central
repository
that
qr
code
could
actually
show
this
was
device
type
xyz
scale,
one
hundred
and
twenty
percent
left-hand
printedness.
But
you
know
you
right
include
everything.
You
need
to
know
how
to
reprint
that
device.
D
And
we
can
actually
start
trending
some
information
like
if
things
are
are
failing
in
certain
devices
over
time,
then
we
can
actually
start
gathering
some
of
that
data
and
say
well.
We
need
to
improve
this
or
we
need
to
shore
this
up
because
it's
you
know
the
failure
rate
here.
Is
you
know
whatever
30
times
absolutely.
You
know
30
higher
than
other
similar
devices,
but
I've
been
thinking
about
this
for
a
while.
Certainly.
A
E
E
At
least
I
think
we
are
still
a
brittle
organization
and
so
building
trying
to
build
the
grand
vision
inevitably
resulted
in
some
kind
of
a
breakdown,
even
even
with
like
masby
masby,
had
a
brilliant
vision
for
how
to
tie
together
all
of
the
technology
for
chapter
audits
and
for
the
badging
system
and
so
on,
but
because
he's
a
volunteer,
he
became
unavailable
and
it
just
never
really
happened.
All
I
want
to
say
is:
I
think
that
this
identifying
the
where
you're
trying
to
go
is
really
good
and.
E
What
is
a
viable
incremental
step
in
that
direction?
Sure
taking
it
and
then
saying?
What's
the
next
incremental
step
and
maybe
modifying
the
end
goal
with
every
step,
as
you
learn
is
a
way
in
which
we
can
get
better
without
investing
heavily
in
something
that,
in
my
experience,
we
have
never
pulled
off.
We
have
never
pulled
off
a
big,
successful
bunch
of
technology.
I'd
say
our
best
case
was
enabled
webcentral,
which
was
a
grand
vision
well
implemented.
And
yet,
as
you
can
see,
we've
decided
it
didn't
succeed
either.
D
Well,
this
is
what
I
would
say.
I
think
that
if
we're
talking
about
a
first
step,
I
think
that
that
ties
into
the
question
about
the
leadership
team
and
difficulty
getting
them
roped
into
scheduling
us
a
meeting.
I
think
that,
if,
if
we
want
to
make
an
incremental
step,
I
think
it
would
be
getting
that
group
of
people
together
and
then
expanding
from
there
trying
to
get
more
engagement
generally
from
the
larger
community.
So
it's
not
this
group
of
guys
every
week
who
are
meeting
you
know,
I'd
love
it.
D
If
we
had,
you
know
200
people
on
this
call
every
week.
E
E
I
just
want
to
give
you
this
feedback
and
this
suggestion,
but
I
think
jeremy
and
I
have
come
to
the
point,
sorry
to
speak
to
you,
jeremy,
where
I
think
I
have
done
as
much
building
of
this
system
as
I
know
how
to
do
with
my
skill
set
and
my
availability,
the.
A
Only
observation
I'd
make
here
is
that
any
attempt
we've
made
over
the
last
10
years
to
establish
any
kind
of
centralized
data
repositories
has
always
failed.
Despite
our
best
of
in
intentions,
we've
tried
it
in
a
number.
E
But
the
other
side
I'm
trying
to
articulate
is
that
that's
that's
what
we've
been
able
to
do.
It
is
quite
possible
adam
that
if
you
can
get
this
new
team
together,
that
you'll
be
able
to
do
what
we
weren't
able
to
do
so,
I'm
just
giving
you
a
caution,
not
a
a
recommendation.
Yeah
nope.
B
B
So
as
a
model
I
think
ewc
is
is
great
and
it's
it's
continued
to
be
the
best
iteration
of
this
model
that
we
have
here
in
the
us
to
lean
into,
but
how
cool
that
it's
sort
of
diversified
and
and
we've
found
that
there's
these
other
models
out
there
and
I
think
in
the
same
way,
if
we
think
about
this
audit
process
last
year
was
the
first
year
in
the
years
that
I've
been
involved
with
enable
that
I
tried
to
pull
together
sort
of
an
annual
report,
and
it
was
really
interesting
to
try
to
glue
together
the
mush
data
that
we
have
and
and
try
to
come
up
with
some
sort
of
a
way
of
guesstimating
in
a
sort
of
a
a
scientific
way,
ish
what
what
the
the
dark
matter
of
enable
could
be.
B
But
if
we
can
track
some-
and
we
know
the
percentage
of
what
we've
tracked
versus
what
we
haven't
tracked,
we
can
start
to
to
get
a
better
sense
of
how
to
project
this
stuff
and
we
can
share
with
with
some
credibility.
You
know
a
range
of
act.
You
know
this
is
kind
of
what
we're
working
with
when
we
talk
to
people
like,
I
think
we
had
meetings
with
ibm
was
that
right:
we've
had
meetings
with
other
sort
of
big
players
and
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
that
they
need.
So.
B
A
Let's
move
on
folks,
because
I
there's
a
couple
of
big
topics
and
I
don't
know
if
we'll
have
time
for
them,
but
let's
let's
move
on
so
we
can
at
least
give
it
a
shot
here.
I
just
want
to
quickly
review
a
couple
of
posts
of
note
from
the
week.
There
was
two
that
I
I
put
in
here,
one
from
gordon
snowball
who
posted
a
new
design
for
what
he
describes
as
a
locking
finger
prosthetic
and
I'm
just
going
to
go
straight
to
his
thingyverse
listing.
A
I
I
can't
say
I
fully
understand
how
it
works,
because
there's
no
video
there's
only
photos.
It
looks
like
the
chords
kind
of
wind
around
the
finger.
A
C
A
My
goodness
well,
if
there's
any
mathematicians
here
I'll
leave
this
one
to
you,
but
you
know
he
questioned
whether
it
was
you
know
he
felt
like
it
might
be
a
little
bit
too
specific
to
have
a
place
in
the
general
catalog.
I
I
don't
know
that
I
agree.
I
see
I
see
some
very
interesting
things
in
here.
A
C
A
So
I
you
know,
I
don't
know
that
we
have
a
good
mechanism
for
this
right
now,
but
I
guess
ben.
I
would
ask
you
to
help
me
to
make
sure
that
we
bring
this
to
the
attention
of
the
intern.
That's
working
on
the
device
catalog.
Let's
just
make
sure
that
they're
aware
of
these
designs
that
aren't
in
our
catalog
that
that
could
be
so.
I
think
this
is
a
good
one.
A
The
only
thing
I
have
is
when
somebody
fills
out
our
form
that
we
have
on
the
hub
to
actually
submit
a
new
design
that
sends
an
email
to
me
and
I
have
kept
those
emails.
So
I
have
two
or
three
of
those
emails
of
people
that
have
submitted
designs
that
have
not
made
it
into
the
catalog.
That's
by
no
means
a
complete
list.
There
are,
I
know
there
are
other
designs
out
there,
but
I
could
at
least
forward
those
to
you
if
that
would
help.
B
That'd
be
great
yeah.
If
you
want
to
send
me
all
the
the
devices
that
aren't
in
the
catalog
that
need
review,
or
even
some
of
the
ones
that
are
in
the
catalog
that
need
further
review,
I
think
that's
a
great
place
to
start.
We
can
sort
of
have
a
beginning
activity
list
for
the
intern.
Terrific,
okay,.
A
D
Not
so
far,
I
talked
to
ben
a
little
bit
about
this
the
other
day
and
he
had
a
good
point
that
the
presentation
that
I'll
be
giving
in
a
couple
of
weeks
here
might
be
a
good
entry
point
for
a
number
of
these
folks.
So
I'm
going
to
be
giving
a
little
primer
on
disability
models
like
how
healthcare
professionals
view
and
classify
impairment
versus
functional
limitation
versus
disability
and
how
devices
kind
of
factor
into
that.
I'm
thinking.
B
You
know
this
this
month
and
this
is
actually
a
question
I
wanted
to
ask
adam.
We
had
talked
about
sort
of
a
progression
of
doing
a
presentation
which
he
did
last
month,
which
was
great
just
sort
of
his
background,
and
I
actually
linked
to
that
in
in
his
post
that
you
just
shared
and
then
working
towards
sort
of
a
monthly
meeting.
I
actually
I
checked
an
old
email
and
realized
that
adam
and
I
had
talked
about
starting
in
october.
B
Adam.
Do
you
feel
comfortable
jumping
in
a
little
bit
early?
Are
you?
Are
you
up
for
doing
end
of
september,
or
should
we
stick
to
october
for
the
healthcare
professionals?
I'm.
D
Okay,
well
phew,
oh
no.
That
would
be
great.
That
would
give
me
a
little
bit
more
time
to
try
to
get
this
group
of
people
together
and
and
see
if
we
can
bounce
some
ideas
and
also
give
me
time
to
to
make
it
I
mean
I
I
I've
got
materials
to
give
a
presentation,
but
it
might
not
have
been
a
stellar
presentation,
so
yeah.
I
I
think
october
sounds
like
sounds
like
a
good
idea.
B
Okay,
great
so
yeah,
maybe
what
we
can
do
this
month,
the
focus
follow-up
is
going
to
be
kyle
reeser.
There
is
some
miscommunication
with
the
the
timing
last
month,
so
he's
gonna
share
his
tanzania
trip
this
month.
You
know
the
the
new
member
meetup
is:
is
a
possibility
adam
if
you
wanted
to
jump
in
there,
but
sure
I
think
also
you
know
focusing
on
it,
and
your
work
in
october
would
be
fine
too.
B
I
see
john's
got
his
hand
up,
but
before
I
pass
it
over,
if
you
go
back
to
that
post
jeremy,
james
quilty
did
a
reply
this
morning
and
he
would
be
an
incredible
tyree
would
be
an
absolutely
incredible
key
player.
There.
D
Yeah,
I
I
did
see
that
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
reply,
but
yeah
I'll
I'll
reach
out
to
them.
B
Yeah
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
had
luck
with
in
terms
of
drumming
up
interest.
You
know
it
definitely
is
there's
no
recipe,
there's
no
silver
bullet
that
has
has
worked,
but
within
the
hub
you'll
see
that
the
tag
the
post
before
james.
I
tagged
a
bunch
of
people.
Those
are
all
folks
that
are
involved.
You
know
professionally
in
healthcare.
B
I
know
john
had
sent
an
email
with
a
list
of
a
couple
people,
but
I'd
encourage
all
of
us
as
we're
reading
these
posts
to
tag
people
to
try
to
bring
some
attention
to
some
of
these
posts.
So
james
responded
after
I
tagged
him.
You'll
also
notice.
There's
a
there's,
a
woman,
I'm
going
to
say
her
name
wrong.
I
know,
but
is
it
yeah.
B
Yeah
she
shared
an
incredible
guide.
She
just
finished
her
program
and
shared
her
thesis
and
it
looked
awesome
to
me
so
I
commented
on
her
post
and
said
you
know
adam's
got
this.
This
new
community
that
he's
going
to
be
bringing
together
you'd
be
a
wonderful
person
to
share.
Would
you
like
to
present
so
you
know
I've
gotten
more
feedback
responding
to
posts
than
I
have
from
just
emails
in
general,
but
there's
people
that
respond
differently
to
different
media.
So
john.
E
Just
I
just
wanted
to
remind
you
that
the
world
of
the
hub
is
a
very
small
subset
of
the
world
at
lord
and
that
on
linkedin
particular,
and
I
I
sent
you
some
of
these
names.
But
there
are
more.
E
If
you
make
this
presentation,
you
should
think
about
a
snippet
of
the
video
as
a
linkedin
post,
that
you
then
tag
all
of
the
people
who
who
have
crossed
paths
with
jeremy
or
me
and
rick,
who
are
medical
professionals
and
that
might
well
bring
some
new
people
in
who
will
find
in
your
approach
refreshingly
professional
as
compared
to
what
jeremy
or
I
could
have
done
in
the
past.
D
E
No
seriously
because
you
are
a
medical
professional
and
we
never
pretended
to
be,
but
it
was
also
apparent
to
the
medical
professionals
that
we
came
from
another
planet
so
that
I
just
wanted
to
to
suggest
that
that's
a
way
of
doing
it
and
thinking
about
how
to
how
to
market
what
you're
doing.
D
Okay,
guys
I'll
ruminate
a
little
bit
hey
just
before
I
forget
I've
got
a
rather
I've
got
a
sizeable
update
on
the
afghanistan
initiative.
I
don't
want
to
eat
up
all
of
the
air
on
that.
For
for
this
meeting,
once
we've
concluded
the
rest
of
the
topics
for
this
town
hall,
would
anyone
be
willing
to
stay
after
to
talk
through
it.
A
Well,
we
definitely
can,
but
I
think
maybe
we
should
use
the
time
that
we
have,
because
I,
the
main
the
main
topic
I
was
trying
to
get
down
to
is
we.
We
have
a
fairly
sizable
discussion
to
have
about
reviewing
some
of
the
specifics
of
our
lumia
voting
process.
I
think
we
probably
don't
have
enough
time
to
get
into
that
today.
So
instead
I
would
say:
let's
go
ahead
and
focus
on
your
updates,
adam
and
we'll
save
that
for
another
time.
D
Okay,
yeah
sure
I
will
try
to
be
succinct.
So
since
we
last
spoke,
I've
had
another
call
with
my
contacts
on
the
ground.
Let
me
just
run
through
the
the
players
here.
There's
dr
mayhan.
D
He
is
my
direct
contact
and
a
friend
of
a
friend
who
is
the
person
who
put
me
in
touch
with
the
the
the
hospital
in
question
in
kabul.
Dr
mehan
was
unable
to
meet
this
morning,
but
the
two
people
on
the
call
were
a
dr
doctor,
who
is
the
piano,
prosthetics
and
orthotics
lead
in
the
hospital
and
dr
ramin,
who
is
the
director
of
the
hospital
there
and
dr
mayhan's
good
friend.
A
This
is
just
to
clarify
adam.
This
is
the
only
functioning
orthopedic
surgery
center
in
afghanistan
that
you're
referring
to.
D
Exactly
that's
right,
so,
dr
ramin,
who
is
the
director
there?
He
has
been
working
tirelessly
for
the
past
couple
of
weeks
since
we
first
connected
to
get
this
off.
D
The
ground
he's
been
in
contact
with
the
national
health
minister
and
the
local
minister,
and
I
forget
all
the
the
terminology
there,
but
he
has
been
in
touch
with
with
all
relevant
officials
on
the
government
side
and
has
also
been
in
touch
with
who
in
unicef-
and
it
looks
like
instead
of
having
to
go
through
this
third
party-
humanity
international.
We
might
actually
be
just
utilizing
or
unicef
resources.
D
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
this
team,
but
really
what
I
want
to
do
is
see
if
we
can
get
some
some
momentum
built
up
quickly
to
try
to
pilot
a
shipment
and
and
get
some
of
the
the
devices
that
have
been
requested.
Maybe
just
you
know,
part
of
the
pun,
maybe
a
handful
of
devices
to
send
out
within
the
next
few
weeks
within
the
next
month.
D
If
that
would
be
possible
just
to
see
if
this
delivery
chain
is
is
feasible
before
we
start
making
this
a
regular
thing
right.
So
that's
question
number
one.
A
Well,
I'd
say
somebody
needs
to
reach
out
to.
I
think
it's
dr
brent
hollers
who's,
the
collection
point
that
we've
had
operating
in
atlanta
georgia.
I
have
zero
visibility
into
that,
but,
as
far
as
I
know,
people
have
been
sending
them
fully
assembled
devices
for
some
time.
There
should
be
some
kind
of
an
inventory.
There.
That's
been
checked
for
quality,
but
I
I
have
no
idea
where
that
stands.
So
we
got
to
get
an
update
from
them.
A
B
B
Great
idea
just
to
test
the
supply
chain,
you
know
to
send
it
out,
but
I
do
think
getting
a
printer.
There
is
going
to
make
all
the
difference
in
the
world.
There's
no
sustainable
way
to
continue
to
send
devices
that
far.
I
remember
I'm
I'm
hearing
bob's
voice
in
my
head
talking
about
his
experiences
shipping
overseas
and
I
know
from
getting
materials
in
afghanistan.
It's
just
not
reliable
even
years
ago
before
all
this
yeah.
D
So
that
that
that's
item
number
five
getting
a
printer
out
there
once
we've
established
some
kind
of
connection
and
reliable
transit,
I
I
think
that
that's
a
great
idea
and
something
that
they're
very
excited
about,
so
I've
been
receiving
measurements
and
video
and
pictures
of
potential
recipients.
A
couple.
D
D
Yes,
so
it's
a
combination,
a
lot
of
blow
elbows,
so
the
other-
and
this
is
this-
is
a
different
item,
but
let
me
just
mention
it
now:
they've
got
a
huge
need
for
lower
extremity
prosthetics
yeah,
and
I
know
that
I
think
john
mentioned
soon
after
I
joined
on
and
enabled
that
a
couple
of
chapters
were
experienced
or
had
some
experience
in
in
fabricating
legs.
D
I
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
and
just
see.
Is
that
something
where,
even
if
it's
one
a
month
or
one
a
year,
do
we
have
any
kind
of
capacity
for
lower
extremity,
prosthesis.
E
I
think
you
should
connect
with
the
syria
chapter,
which
is
one
of.
E
Of
in
lower
limb
and
has
done
a
remarkable
job
under
you
know,
vaguely
similar
post-war
conditions.
D
B
B
France,
not
so
much
they've
done
some
some
research.
I
think
with
that,
but
definitely
lots
of
lower
limb
stuff
going
on
in
some
of
the
south
american
chapters.
Paraguay
for
sure
I
can
give
you
a
list
of
some
of
the
chapters
that
are
involved.
Also,
tanzania.
B
D
The
the
the
orthotics
component
is
another
item
that
I'd
like
to
explore,
and
I
think
I
think
it's
time
for
kyle
and
I
finally
meet.
I
think
that
would
be
good
okay,
so
really
they
had
three
key
questions
that
they
wanted
to
know
number
one:
what
country
would
this
be
sent
from
so
that
they
could?
You
know,
try
to
start
establishing
information
with
the
who
like.
Where
is
this
going
to
be
coming
from,
and
how
is
this
going
to
be
done?
D
You
know
they
could
easily
take
things
in
from
iraq,
pakistan
or
turkey
that
they
there
are
pretty
open,
open
lines
of
trade
there
in
shipment,
but
they
would
need
a
key
contact
person
who
would
be
handling
the
packages
and
would
then
turn
things
over
to
the
icrc
or
the
who,
whoever
it's
going
to
be
so,
if,
if
anyone
has
any
idea
where
the
most
feasible
location
would
be,
that
would
be
thing
number
one
thing
number
two
would
be:
how
frequently
would
packages
be
sent
and
how
much
would
they
weigh
just
the
logistics
of
you
know?
D
How
is
this,
you
know
what
what
is
this
going
to
look
like?
Are
we
going
to
have
multiple
devices
in
a
single
package?
Are
we
going
to
ship
them
in
bulk
as
separate
packages,
and
I
guess
finally,
what
what
is
our
our
overall
capacity,
because
they're
trying
to
communicate
to
their
surrounding
community
they've
got
a
huge
number
of
amputees
there?
D
All
of
whom
are
very
interested
in
this
believe
that
they've
made
some
kind
of
announcement
online
in
whatever
form
they
use
to
communicate
these
health
efforts
that
an
aid
organization
based
in
the
united
states
is,
is
capable
of
printing
hands
and
providing
these
devices
and
they're
they're.
Looking
for
people
who
are
interested
in
getting
fitted
so
they've
had
a
huge
number
of
people
calling
in
and
showing
up
to
get
fitted.
So
yeah.
A
B
A
So
material
I
just
we
might
want
to
think
about
materials.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
send
devices
that
are
made
out
of
pla,
you
know
because
they
they
might
tend
to
melt
so
something
to
keep
in
mind
as
we're
collecting
devices
here.
I
suspect,
like
when
you
go
to,
for
example,
brent
hollers.
If
he
has
stuff
in
inventory
chances
are
it's
going
to
be
95
pla,
because
that's
what
the
classrooms
are
using.
D
Yeah,
I
think
color
is
another
consideration
too.
That's
true.
We
don't
want
a
bunch
of
like
iron
man
hands.
I
don't
think
right.
So
just
a
thought
anyway.
That's
that's
where
things
are
right
now
they
are.
They
are
champion
at
the
bed
to
to
get
this
moving
and
they
have
all
of
the
approvals
that
they
need.
D
We
just
need
to
hammer
out
some
of
these
details
and
I
I
don't
know
if
this
would
be
better
to
have
some
focused
attention
from
in
a
different
meeting,
and
if
we
can,
we
can
try
to
direct
our
efforts
on
a
weekly
basis
or
outside
of
this
town
hall
meeting
or,
if
that's
asking
too
much
of
everyone's
time.
A
A
E
So,
first
of
all,
adam
just
congratulations
on
how
much
you're
doing
and
how
well
you're
doing
it
thanks
yeah
as
far
as
a
liaison
partner.
I
think
turkey
is
the
obvious
group.
We
have
probably
the
largest
single-enabled
chapters
in
turkey,
they're
quite
a
sophisticated
operation
and
zainab.
E
I
think
her
name
is
very
accessible
and
very,
very
good.
Great
talking
this
through
with
her,
would
be
great.
Also,
they
have
done
I'm
sorry
about
the
noise.
They
have
done
some
work
with
syrian
conditions
as
well.
So
that
also
is
something
to
to
consider
I'll
mute
and
pass
it
on
until
the
helicopter
passes.
B
I
was
going
to
mention
I
put
a
chat
message
in
as
well,
but
my
memory
from
before
you
know
the
government
collapse
and
everything
else
was
that
really
things
arrived
in
afghanistan,
when
people
would
go
there,
we
would
bring
equipment
with
us
and
being
a
chaperone
to
whatever
equipment.
We
brought
made
it
much
more
likely
that
it
would
actually
arrive
where
it
was
supposed
to
go.
It
might
not
be
something
where
there's
any
reliability
to
be
sending
packages.
B
It
might
be
something
where
you
can
get
something
in
and
then
work
from
there.
So
you
know
I
would
I
would
suggest,
trying
to
align
with
unicef
or
who
finding
out
when
they
have
staff
from
where
to
where
you
know.
If
they
have
people
in
europe
that
are
going
to
kabul,
maybe
we
can
get
a
printer
that
they
could
bring
along
with
them,
and
then
they
would
be
able
to
sort
of
bring
it
into
this
space,
and
then
we
could
organize
sort
of
the
local
pickups
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
B
A
A
Just
another
point:
to
keep
in
mind
there
ben
that,
since
we're
talking
about
the
potential
of
a
human
literally
carrying
something
in,
I
don't
know
that
the
printer
is
as
much
of
a
challenge
as
materials.
You
know
they're
going
to
need
filaments,
they
probably
can't
get
those
readily
where
they
are,
so
you
know
and
giving
them
a
spool
or
two
isn't
going
to
do
much
good.
So
we
got
to
think
about
how
do
we
get
them
a
bulk
supply
of
materials?
A
D
Will
say
that
dr
rameen
did
say
that
he's
able
to
travel
to
and
from
turkey
very
easily?
Oh
that's
good!
So
so
that
would
be
a
you
know.
If
we
need
a
person
physically
transporting
I'm
sure
he
can't
do
it
all
the
time,
but
maybe
on
a
monthly
basis.
If
that's
a
workable
cadence
we
could.
We
could
probably
make
that
work.
Well,.
E
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is
do
be
careful
about
runaway
expectations.
I
it's
just
something
to
watch
out
for
that.
The
afghans
may
have
an
unrealistic
or
magical.
E
Way
of
thinking
about
what
we
are
offering
them,
because
it's
it's
alien
and
it
is
sort
of
magical,
but
I
think
our
volume
capability
is
is
a
really
big
question.
We
might
be
able
to
do
a
few
a
month
if
it
if
it
goes
as
well
as
it
sounds
like
you're
doing
it,
it
might
be
a
new
mobilization
for
enable,
in
which
case
it's
not
out
of
the
question
that
we
could
do
a
hundred
a
month.
E
But
it's
that's
the
range
it's
from
a
few
to
hundreds,
and
so
I
I
think,
if
we're
working.
A
I
agree,
but
I
also
think
that
if
we
can
figure
out
some
of
these
logistical
challenges
to
where
we
know
that
we
have
a
means
of
getting
them
in
and
we
then
feel
comfortable
putting
a
strong
call
out
to
the
community
and
organizing
a
printing
effort.
I
personally,
I
feel
like
we
could.
We
could
do
a
pretty
good
quantity.
I
think.
E
Well,
that's
right,
but
remember,
there's.
Ultimately
the
real
question
is
whether
these
devices
will
be
accepted
and
used,
and
that's
that's
the
really
hard
part
and
that
you
only
find
out
by
learning,
as
you
go
so
again
figuring
out
how
to
do
the
minimally
viable
complete
chain
and
then
indicating
that
we're
interested
in
scaling
is
a
good
idea.
A
D
So
a
couple
of
responses
that-
and
I
agree
with-
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
john
number
one.
I've
done
some
tempering
of
expectations
already
just
to
make
sure
in
part,
because
the
language
barrier
is
such
that
you
know
it
occasionally
takes
each
of
us
saying
the
same
thing
a
few
times
before
we
get
our
points
across.
Oh
gosh,
I've
got
so
many
different
things
here
that
I
need
to
bring
up
I'm
going
to
try
to
get
this
out
in
order.
D
I've
reached
out
to
the
helping
hands
project
and
they
have
their
leadership,
is
very
interested
in
being
engaged
in
this.
D
I
think
that,
in
addition
to
putting
out
a
call
generally
to
try
to
get
some
more
focused
energy
and
volunteers
to
begin
making
limbs,
I
think
that
it
kind
of
falls
to
me
and
anyone
who
wants
to
give
me
a
hand
as
the
the
outreach
person
to
reach
out
to
individual
chapters
and
just
explain,
what's
going
on,
set
up
some
one-on-one
time
and
explain
what
the
what
the
chain
is
going
to
look
like
what
what
I
need
is
to
see
is
to
determine
what
that
chain
is
going
to
look
like,
so
that
I
can
begin
communicating
that
to
folks.
D
That's
thing
number
one
thing
number
two
is
that
I've
officially
hit
the
point
at
which
I
can't
provide
usable
information
to
the
degree
that
they
need
and
that
I
think
we
need
to
to
get
these
expectations
right
and
to
get
the
logistics
hammered
out.
So
to
that
end,
I'd
really
appreciate
if
ben
or
jeremy
or
anyone
else
on
this
call
wanted
to
join
this
whatsapp
group
and
again
having
these
conversations
asynchronously
and
where
we're
doing
weekly
or
bi-weekly
calls
to
to
touch
base
but
ben.
D
I
especially
like
your
insight,
given
your
experience
in
the
area
and
with
the
conflict
and
some
of
the
the
geopolitical
concerns,
if,
if
anyone
has
has
the
bandwidth
to
to
be
more
involved
in
that,
I'd
really
appreciate
the
help.
Absolutely
okay.
D
That's
about
it,
so
I
guess
maybe
the
the
best
next
step
is
to
send
out
a
a
little
gap
analysis.
You
know
where
what
I
we
still
need
make
that
available
to
the
group.
D
I
can
also
share
all
of
the
measurements
and
video
that
I've
received
from
dr
poija,
but
we've
got
to
figure
out
some
way
where
dr
poija
can
upload
these
things
directly,
instead
of
sending
them
to
me
via
whatsapp,
so
that
people
in
the
hub
can
just
grab
these
cases
as
they
come
down
the
pipe
because
it's
it's
it's
massively
inefficient
for
me
to
check
whatsapp,
see
what
it
is
download
is
my
phone
and
then
you
know
upload
it
wherever
it's
gonna
go
so
yep
that
that's
about
it.
A
Okay,
all
right!
Well
then,
we
are
into
our
final
minutes
of
the
meeting
here.
Let
me
just
open
it
up
to
everyone
on
the
call.
If
there's.
E
I
just
I
wanted
to
make
one
other
suggestion,
which
is
that,
rather
than
going
straight
to
the
hub
conceivably,
this
is
this
is
what
the
enable
web
central
was
designed
for.
So
you
could
think
about
that
infrastructure
for
coordinating
this
as
well.
Okay,
perfect,
perfect.
B
Me
just
to
follow
up,
I
tossed
in
a
another
comment:
the
team
in
pakistan
grit
3d.
B
They
there's
some
information
in
the
chapter
spotlight
about
it,
but
they
had
initially
put
a
lot
of
energy
into
enabled
devices.
You
know
kinetic
usable
hands
and
they
found
that
they
just
weren't
being
used
and
that
the
the
community
really
was
interested
in
sort
of
fitting
in
having
a
cosmetic
hand
for
events,
so
they
you
know,
after
spending
a
lot
of
time,
trying
to
come
up
with
a
useful
device.
They
shifted
and
they
started
getting
these
cosmetic
rubber
hands
from
china.
B
You
know
with
the
correct
skin
tones
that
that
could
be
sort
of
placed
on
and
then
focusing
on.
You
know
the
connection
points
between
you
know
the
the
residual,
limb
and
the
device,
but
take
a
look
at
that
too,
because
I
think
afghanistan
being
it's
definitely
a
different
culture,
but
there's
going
to
be
some
similarities
in
terms
of
what
the
expectations
are
and
it
might
be
less
about.
B
Having
you
know
a
hand,
you
know
one
of
our
designs
that
really
works
and
and
more
about
you
know
being
being
able
to
to
participate
in
events
and
not
feel
ostracized.
B
B
That
was
again
a
surprise
when
I
did
the
interviews
with
the
the
3d
folks,
they
did
a
lot
of
work
with
the
gripper
hand
initially,
and
then
you
know
just
had
to
move
away
from
it
all,
even
though,
as
as
engineers
and
designers,
that's
really
what
they
were
interested
in.
That's
not
what
the
the
folks
were
interested
in
using.
E
The
other
thing
to
have
in
mind
is
that
there
are
rubber,
gloves
sourceable
from
india
for
as
little
as
five
dollars,
I
think,
which
can
be
put
on
top
of
an
enable
hand
which
gives
some
mechanical
function,
but
some
of
that
look.
So
that's
another
approach
to
explore,
or
I
can
try
to
find
the
vendor
in
india
who
makes
those
gloves
they
were
about
five
bucks.
E
B
Yeah,
india,
actually
in
terms
of
a
regional
partner,
is
worth
considering.
A
A
No,
no,
not
at
all
you're
doing
fantastic
work
adam!
Thank
you
so
much
it's!
It's
really
great
to
see
the
progress.
I
think
we'll
go
ahead
and
wrap
up
for
today,
and
I
don't
think
we
have
another
follow-up
event
today.
Right,
I
think
monday
is
our
next
one.
Is
that
right.
B
Monday
is
the
chapter
leaders
meeting
so
that'll
be
managed
by
john.
We
did
have
some
interest
with,
I
think
some
sort
of
a
maker
from
ukraine.
I
sent
an
email
today
to
invite
them
to
that
meeting
to
see
sort
of
what
happens.
Next.
We've
had
some
technical
issues
with
the
last
last
month's
meeting,
but
maybe
we
can.
B
I
can
chat
with
john.
We
can
get
that
email
out
today
for
getting
everybody
in
so
that's
monday
at
12,
and
then
next
friday
is
the
the
new
member
meetup
and
that's
monday,
at
12
eastern
right,
yes
monday,
the
12th
at
12
p.m.
Is
the
chapter
spotlight
or
the
chapter
leaders
meeting
and
then
followed
by
that
friday.
The
16th
is
the
new
member
meetup.