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From YouTube: Weekly e-NABLE Town Hall Meeting - September 16, 2022
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This is a recording of the weekly e-NABLE Town Hall meeting.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: https://bit.ly/e-nable-town-hall-notes
If you want to join into the meeting itself, you are welcome to do so. You'll find the Zoom link in the events calendar on the Hub.
B
A
We've
got
our
YouTube
chat
in
the
lower
right
there.
If
anyone
says
anything
there,
we
can
keep
an
eye
on
that.
Nobody
in
there
yet,
okay!
Well,
that's
pretty
where
you
at
John.
C
At
me,
oh
I'm
I'm,
just
out
walking
the
dog
I
hope
you
don't
mind.
Of
course,
not
Rochester
New
York.
B
Let's
see,
do
you
happen
to
know
if
Ben
is
going
to
be
available
today.
A
B
Weld
have
you
introduced
yourself
in
a
moment
to
buy
us
and
Adam
okay,
so
introductions.
We
usually
like
to
start
with
a
quick
introduction
for
people
that
were
not
as
familiar
with,
and
that
means
you
Tobias
I,
don't
know
if
I've
met
you,
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
and
let
us
know
where
you're
from
and
how
you.
A
Found
us
yes,
I'm
I'm
from
Belgium
I'm,
an
engineering
student
in
electronics
and
ICT
I
like
3D,
printing
and
I,
have
a
3D
printer
at
home.
Excellent
I
find
I
found
this.
A
C
B
This
is
a
weekly
meeting
that
we
do
called
the
town
hall
and
this
particular
meeting
is
is
more
about
sort
of
talking
through
any
issues,
challenges
projects
that
we
have
going
on
coordinating
our
activities
and
you're.
More
than
welcome
to
join
for
this
I
suspect
that
you
might
find
this
one
a
little
bit
less
interesting,
but
you're
you're
welcome
to
hang
with
us
if
you're
available
the
reason
I'm
mentioning
that
is
in
an
hour
after
this
meeting.
So
this
meeting
will
end
in
an
hour
and
then
hour
after
it
ends.
B
I,
don't
know
if
that's
too
late
for
you
we're
having
a
new
members
meet
up
today,
and
that
would
be
a
really
good
one
for
you
to
join,
because
that's
when
new
members
come
and
introduce
themselves
and
we
help
them
to
sort
of
find
their
way
to
what
they
want
to
do
within
the
community
and
will
help
connect
you
with
the
resources
that
you
need
so
you're
more
than
welcome
to
join
us
here,
but
I
think
the
new
member
Meetup
will
probably
be
more
useful
to
you
and
that's
starts
two
hours
from
now.
Essentially,.
B
And
if
when,
whenever
you
go
to
the
hub
on
the
main
Forum
link,
which
I'm
showing
now
that's
the
the
button
here
in
the
toolbar,
you'll
see
this
panel
of
upcoming
events
right
here
and
this
second
one
new
member
Meetup
is
what
I'm
talking
about.
So
you
can
also
click
on
that,
and
that
has
the
details,
and
it
has
the
zoom
link
right
in
here
and,
like
I
said,
that
starts
1
pm
eastern
time,
which
is
two
hours
from
now.
A
Okay,
we'll
be
dead
also
thank.
A
B
Welcome
you're
welcome
to
stay
with
us
if
you're
available,
it's
it's
good
to
have
you
with
us
and
Ben
glad
you
could
join,
can
I
hand
note
taking
over
to
you
now
sure
thank
you.
It
just
I
I.
It
slows
me
down
when
I
try
to
do
it
all
right,
so
action
items
not
much
progress
here.
I
still
need
to
redirect
our
chapters.
B
Email
I
haven't
done
that
because
I
need
to
get
in
to
mess
with
DNS
and
I
just
haven't
had
time
yet
Adam
I
know
you
are
working
to
coordinate
a
meeting
or
discussion
amongst
our
emerging
leadership
team.
Any
updates
there
have
we
had
any
progress.
B
D
Muted
and
having
trouble
unmuting
myself,
hey
sorry
about
that
sorry,
you're
getting
some
background
noise,
I'm
walking
home
from
dropping
my
kid
off
at
school!
So
I'm!
Sorry,
can
you
repeat
the
question
it's
kind
of
windy
where
I
am.
D
No,
not
amongst
the
leadership
team
Ben
has
been
assisting
me
in
getting
some
some
time
set
up
for
the
healthcare
Roundtable,
but
no
and
to
be
completely
transparent.
I
haven't
put
a
lot
of
elbow
grease
into
getting
the
leadership
team
together.
I.
B
D
I
I
DM
Dungeons
and
Dragons
campaigns
with
a
bunch
of
Engineers,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
how
hard
it
is
to
get
people's
your.
D
E
It
is
worth
mentioning
that
in
the
space
in
the
legal
space
that
Adam
set
up,
there
was
a
post
from
Eric
bubar
about
Grant,
I,
think
related
to
Microsoft
Office.
E
He
was
interested
in
applying
for,
and
that
could
be
potentially
a
way
to
bring
some
people
together.
I
know
there's
nothing
that
brings
Educators
together
more
than.
D
B
The
past
we've
had
some
luck
doing
these
collaboratively
like
if
somebody
takes
the
lead
and
sets
up
a
Google
doc
and
starts
to
draft
what
we
need
to
apply.
That
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
work
asynchronously,
and
it
might
actually
be
a
nice
tool
to
start
to
get
the
leadership
team
working
together
on
something,
even
if
we
can't
find
a
time
to
meet
so
maybe
just
a
shared
Google,
doc
and
some
collaborative
editing
might
be
worth
a
shot
on
this.
C
D
Great
time,
good
idea,
Ben
Let's,
connect
after
this
call
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
do
that.
If
that
sounds
good
to
you,.
E
B
E
B
Is
very
counter-intuitive
at
first,
but
it
is
a
repeatable
series
of
steps
that
once
you
go
through
it
a
few
times,
it's
it's
not
too
hard.
It
takes
me
just
a
few
minutes
to
set
up
now
that
I've
I've
gone
through
it
enough.
E
Although
right
I
must
say
that
I
do
tend
to
Fumble
every
once
in
a
while
in
the
chapter
leaders
meeting
I
signed
in,
but
it
wasn't
in
the
enable
account
it
was
in
sort
of
my
account.
So
I
was
thinking,
nobody's,
showing
up
what's
the
deal
and
then
I
realized
I'm
not
going
to
get
any
of
the
sort
of
admit
this
person
notification.
So
it
was
so
that
to
be
said,
you
know.
B
E
B
Great
so
then
other
action
items
John
and
Ben
working
to
we're
going
to
meet
with
Ian
to
talk
about
interns
and
Educators.
We
saw
that
he
just
replied
was
it
this
morning
fresh.
B
Minutes
ago
yeah,
so
what
did
he
say?
He
has
one
intern.
He
just
got
over
he's
just
getting
over
coveted
himself.
Sorry
to
hear
that
Ian,
and
he
said
he
has
one
intern
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
find
it
real,
quick
here,
yep.
Yes,.
E
One
intern
and
he
thought
that
in
in
a
few
weeks,
the
intern
noosh
would
be
able
to,
with
with
a
few
interviews
under
his
belt,
be
able
to
discuss
the
data
at
the
town
hall
meeting
and
share
share
the
plan.
Okay,.
C
He
also
mentioned
that
the
intern
is
working
with
Neil
gershenfeld
Neil
gershenfeld
is
the
founder
of
the
Fab
foundation
and
a
very
big
figure
internationally.
So
that's
actually
essentially.
C
B
So
he's
saying
for
a
town
hall
meeting,
it
might
make
sense
to
wait
another
two
weeks
until
he's
got
some
progress,
so
I
hope
we
will
have
them
join
us
in
a
couple
of
weeks
and
we'll
get
a
more
detailed
update
on
what
they're
up
to
that
would
be
great.
B
All
right
on
we
go
last.
One
is
for
me
to
share
my
3D
Universe
public
facing
knowledge
base
articles
with
Ben,
because
we
have
some
enable
related
articles
in
here
about
which
3D
printer
to
get
how
to
get
your
classroom
involved.
Some
frequently
asked
questions
somebody
wanting
to
print
Parts,
but
not
assemble
them,
etc,
etc.
I
I
sent
these
to
you.
Ben
I,
don't
know
how
much
you
know
how
useful
this
would
be.
I'm
happy
to
do
anything
with
this.
B
If
you
see
a
way
to
make
use
of
it,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
email,
I'm
also
hesitant
to
further
complicate
our
infrastructure
by
adding
another
website
into
the
mix.
So
maybe
it's
a
matter
of
just
copying.
Some
of
the
content
I
have,
if
you
think
some
of
these
are
useful.
Maybe
we
just
copy
them
into
a
Wiki
on
the
Hub
or
something
I'm
open
to
suggestions,
but
I
sent
it
to
you
for
your
thoughts.
E
Great
in
that
I
know
that
we
only
have
one.
C
C
I'm
sorry
I
was
just
going
to
say
the
other
thing
to
consider
is
you
could
put
it
in
an
iframe
in
the
hub
so
that
people
don't
have
to
learn
what
it
is.
But
as
you
update
it,
it
would
still
be
refreshed.
B
That's
true,
I,
just
I,
don't
I'm
not
crazy
about
putting
things
in
iframes
when
they
have
I,
don't
know
if
you're
seeing
my
screen
John,
but
you
got
this
upper
menu
and
you
know
title
bar
and
all
that,
and
it's
sometimes
a
little
weird
when
you
have
you
know
like
this
menu
would
be
embedded
and
then
you'd
have
the
The
Hub
menu
up
on
top
of
that,
and
it
can
get
a
little
bit
confusing
I.
B
If,
if
I
could
just
embed
like
this
one
fair
enough
section
here,
that
would
be
great,
but
I
don't
know.
If
I
can
do
that,
it's
worth
looking
at,
though
maybe
maybe
there's
a
way
of
impacting
personal
section
or
if
nothing
else,
I
suppose
you
know.
If,
if
you
go
to
an
individual
article,
maybe
there's
a
way
of
just
embedding
that
one
article
it's
something
I'll
have
to
look
at.
It's
not
a
bad
idea.
John
I
just
have
to
figure
out.
If
there's
a
good
way
of
doing
it.
B
That
doesn't
you
know,
make
things
even
more
convoluted.
Okay,.
C
B
That's
to
be
worked
on,
but
I'll
take
this
off,
because
I
did
send
them
to
Ben
for
now
so
upcoming
presentations,
I
guess
I
should
put
on
here
what
was
the
name
nush
and
ush
Rush
Brandeis
intern,
and
this
would
be,
let's
see
around
what
is
two
weeks
from
today
around
the
end
of
the
month,
so
I'll
just
say
around
September
30th,
but
not
necessarily
that
day
it's
somewhere
around
there.
So
we
have
it
on
our
radar.
B
Okay,
key
metrics,
I.
Don't
think
there
was
anything
really
too
noteworthy
here,
pretty
typical
levels
of
activity.
B
Remember
that
our
number
of
chapters
is
kind
of
unknown
I
I
dropped
it
to
200,
because
I
think
we've
probably
had
a
couple
that
have
been
inactive,
but
since
we
need
to
do
an
audit,
I
figured
we'll
just
keep
it
as
a
round
number.
Until
we
figure
out
exactly
how
many
we
do
have
so
I'm
calling
it
200
for
now
on.
We
go
all
right
from
the
Hub,
a
couple
of
posts
that
I
wanted
to
call
attention
to
this
week.
B
The
first
one
is
from
Dina
eocs
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
pronouncing
that
right
teacher
who
has
a
said
she's
she's
looking
to
buy
an
elbow
actuated
enable
ARM
device
for
a
student
in
her
class.
So
she
can
play
the
ukulele
and
we
had
a
couple
of
people
that
jumped
in
and
commented.
Vaquille
was
kind
enough
to
say
no,
you
can't
buy
one
they're,
all
free,
which
is
absolutely
correct.
B
Tanya
offered
the
help
from
her
chapter
Sage
Prosthetics
vakil's
questions
were
good
he's
asking
for
some
clarifying
questions
about
the
anatomy
and
what
the
student
wants
to
be
able
to
do.
Etc
Jeff
Yin
echoed
those
same
questions.
He
said
that
he
created
a
prosthesis
for
his
daughter
to
play
viola
and
so
he's
asking
for
pictures.
Holly
Martin
is
happy
to
help
and
Bonita
gachnick
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
pronouncing
that
right,
Jeff
we'd
be
interested.
Let
us
know
if
you'd
like
to
help
so
several
offers
for
help.
B
But
you
know
it's:
we've.
We've
done
some
of
these
sort
of
function.
Specific
devices
I
can't
remember
if
we've
ever
done,
one
for
ukulele,
but
it
would
probably
be
pretty
up.
That's
just
a
small
guitar
right,
so
any
does
any.
Is
anyone
aware
of
existing
devices
that
we
should
be
looking
at
existing
designs.
B
C
I
hope
we're
assuming
that
ukulele
right
I'm,
hoping
that
it's
the
pick
end
of
the
ukulele
that
we're
going
to
be
facilitating.
B
Oh
yeah
yeah.
It
would
be
very
hard
to
use
a
device
to
play
chords,
although
Rick
has
had
great
success
in
just
doing
alternate
tuning
on
guitars
so
that
you
can
play
open
chords
more
easily
things
like
that,
so
there
are
tunings
that
make
it
much
easier
to
play.
Without
that
left
hand
doing
chords,
especially
if
you
get
into
slide
no
I've,
never
seen
anyone
play
a
ukulele
with
a
slide
but
I
I,
guess
you
know
it's
a
possibility.
D
Well,
I
I
was
thinking
that
I
play
ukulele
myself
and
I
was
wondering.
If
you
know
you
could
have
I,
don't
know
positions
for
what
what
would
it
be?
Pop
I
mean
I.
Guess
it
wouldn't
be
limited
by
number
of
boards.
It's
just
the
degrees
of
freedom
in
the
the
digits.
B
D
B
Know,
I
I
I
don't
play
ukulele,
but
I
play
guitar,
knowing
how
how
drastically
your
fingers
have
to
change
position
to
play
different
chords,
I
wonder
how
we
would
facilitate
that
unless
it
was
just
an
open
tuning
where
you're,
just
you
know,
covering
the
whole
fret
like
with
a
capo
or
something
or
a
slide.
Well,.
B
Variable
they
have
those
yeah,
they
have
partial
capos
that
you
can
use
to
hold
down.
You
know
one
or
two
or
three
strings
and
play
interesting
yeah.
They
have
those.
You
know
the
challenge
again
comes
in
when
you
need
to
change
when
you
need
to
move
that
or
move
to
a
different
set
of
chords
and
again
open
tuning
can
help
to
some
extent
with
that.
But
it's
you
know
it's
limiting
it.
It
limits
kind
of
the
kinds
of
things
you
can
play,
but
you
know
it's
good
to
keep
all
of
our
options.
B
Open,
I,
don't
know
you
know,
let's,
let's
first
things.
First,
let's
find
out
exactly
what
we're
talking
about
here,
because
if
it's,
if
it's
the
right
hand,
then
you
know,
strumming
is
definitely
doable
and
I
think
we
already
have
some
devices
with
pick
attachments.
I
know
Nate
has
made
something
like
that
and
it
could
probably
be
adapted.
B
So,
let's,
let's
wait
for
details
and
pictures
just
wanted
to
call
that
to
our
attention
and
maybe
we'll
check
in
on
it
again
the
other
one
though
Jeremy.
D
B
Right,
you
are
right,
you
are
okay,
so
Prisha
vadel
is
a
student
in
the
UK
who
is
hoping
to
make
an
enabled
device,
nothing
especially
interesting
there.
He
got
some
good
comments
and
and
offers
of
of
support,
but
the
reason
I
wanted
to
call
attention
to
this.
One
is,
let's
see,
he's
he's
hoping
to
make
a
design
for
a
13
year
old
boy,
who's
going
to
his
school
and
he
currently
has
a
cosmetic
hand,
but
it's
difficult
for
him
to
play
basketball.
Okay!
B
Well,
that's
that's,
actually
not
an
easy
challenge.
Either.
I
need
a
pretty
robust
device
for
that.
But
what
I
found
particularly
interesting
about
this
was
our
friend
Nate
I.
Don't
know
how
to
pronounce
his
last
name.
Maca
blog
John
am
I.
Thinking
of
the
right
Nate
here.
The
one
that
we
talked
to
that
was
making
prosthetic
devices
in
the
UK
is
that
this
Nate.
B
B
How
do
I
get
rid
of
this
here
there
we
go
some
of
these
videos
they're
playing
in
the
background
very
I,
don't
know
very
robust,
functional
there's
one
playing
a
guitar,
interesting
looking
devices,
so
I
I,
just
aside
from
this
particular
ticket
I'm
thinking
I,
would
love
to
catch
up
on
what
they're
doing
they've
got
some
very
cool,
looking
sort
of
functional-
or
you
know,
task
specific
devices
here
and
I'd
love
to
find
out
more
about
what
they're
doing
and
how
we
might
be
able
to.
C
Don't
know
I
tried
to
get
Nate
to
come
to
the
chapter
leaders
meeting
not
too
long
ago
and
he
didn't
respond.
But
if
he's
responded
on
the
Hub,
that
is
another
opportunity
to
engage
him
I'm
very
keen
on
their
yeah.
B
B
It
looks
really
nice
so
Ben
do
you
want
to
maybe
try
to
see
if
you
can
I,
don't
know
reply
on
on
that?
What's
that's
the
wrong
one
reply
on
that
thread
here
where
he,
where
he
commented.
E
Yeah
I'll
reply
with
this
video,
so
he
can
watch
the
Nate
did
Join
one
of
our
chapter
leader
meetings.
We
were
talking
about
I,
think
sort
of
early
I,
don't
know
different
things
that
we
could
do
for
the
effort
in
Ukraine.
E
Oh
excellent,
I
think
that
might
have
been
in
April
I
forget
which
month
so
he
he
was
in
the
discussion.
Then,
okay,.
B
Well,
let's
see
if
we
can
reach
out
and
get
an
update
on
on
where
they're
at
it
looks
like
they've
made
a
lot
of
progress,
it's
great
okay,
so
it
was
only
those
two
posts
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
this
week.
As
far
as
our
recurring
events,
we've
got,
the
one
I
already
mentioned
today
is
the
new
member
Meetup
coming
up
an
hour
after
the
conclusion
of
this
meeting
and
the
details
in
the
link
are
in
the
hub,
we've
got
a
number
of
other
meetings
that
are
are
happening.
E
A
E
E
So
today
we'll
have
the
new
member
Meetup.
We
have
on
Monday
we're
gonna
be
meeting
with
Ian
and
I.
Think
Ian
will
be
I,
hope
bringing
along
some
let's
bring
along
noosh
and
they'll,
be
talking
about
plans
for
the
Academic
Year
and
then
opening
up
discussions
to
other
folks
related
to
education.
Great.
E
We
have
Kyle
joining
us
on
Friday
of
next
week.
Looking
at
his
recent
trip
to
Tanzania.
E
Okay,
so
it'll
be
next
Friday
and
then
the
following
Monday
will
be
sort
of
a
pilot
community
meeting
with
the
enable
Healthcare
professionals
and
we
we
did
get
nice
tianara
de
los
Santos
Bina
from
Brazil
she's,
going
to
be
sharing
her
master's
thesis
talking
a
little
bit
about
printing
quality
protocol,
but
the
the.
A
E
Discussion
about
the
value
for
enabled
Healthcare
professionals
of
participating,
I
know.
Adam
has
some
really
great
things
that
he
wanted
to
talk
about
in
terms
of
how
we
get
sort
of
the
the
community
to
participate
and
engage
excellent.
C
You
know
Ben
I,
don't
know
if
Everton
is
paying
attention
to
this,
but
with
his
connections
to
the
healthcare
Professionals
in
Brazil,
it'd
be
great
to
have
him
or
one
of
his
colleagues
alerted
to
that
meeting.
Yeah.
E
Yeah
and
I
I
did
tag
him
when
she
first
posted
her
Master's
thesis
great,
but
it
might
be
worth
just
following
up
with
him
on.
What's
up.
B
Okay
on
we
go,
let's
see,
I,
don't
think.
C
We
have
anything
before
before
we
depart
from
Ben's
presentation
Ben,
you
should
review
with
us
your
imminent
change
in
status.
That's
going
to
be
news
to
this
group.
I!
Think.
E
Yeah
so
now
again,
this
is
all
sort
of
in
process,
but
over
the
summer,
Rochester
New
York,
where
I'm
living
these
days
had
a
sort
of
a
crisis
with
a
teacher
shortage.
E
They
had
about
400
positions
short
in
the
city,
school
district,
so
I
threw
my
hat
in
the
ring,
didn't
hear
anything
back
until
the
first
day
of
school,
and
then
you
sort
of
got
an
offer
for
a
teaching
position
here
in
Rochester.
That
is
I'm
going
through
the
steps
with
that.
But
you
know
it's:
it's
been.
It's
been
taking
a
little
bit
of
time.
I
didn't
want
to
mention
anything
until
sort
of
I
actually
had
a
sort
of
a
clear
plan
of
what
the
transition
process
might
look
like
that.
E
That
being
the
case,
you
know
that
the
Administration
has
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on,
but
that
would
definitely
shift
the
the
time
that
I
would
be
able
to
spend
doing
this
kind
of
work
so
looking
into
having
maybe
an
intern
transition
into
covering
some
of
this
stuff
and
yeah
taking
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
join
meetings
if
I
had
a
class
during
the
same
time.
So
well.
B
E
A
C
I,
don't
think
he
said
he's
going
to
be
an
art
teacher,
but
the
definition
of
art
is
Broad
enough
that
it
may
well
involve
enable
relevant
stuff
as
well.
That's.
E
C
E
It's
interesting
it's
at
a
it's
at
a
school.
That's
all
International,
Refugee
students,
there's
a
program
here
in
Rochester
to
provide
you,
know
language
services
and
sort
of
a
transition
plan
for
students
that
are
arriving
that
don't
have
fluent
English.
So
the
school
has
I
think
there's
35
languages
that
the
students
speak
they're
from
all
over
the
world,
a
lot
of
students
from
Afghanistan
A,
big
flood
of
students
coming
in
from
Ukraine.
So
it's
in
Rochester's,
one
of
the
the
main
cities
in
the
U.S
that
supports
sort
of
incoming
Refugee
families.
E
A
B
Cool
well
good
luck
with
that
man.
It
sounds
like
a
great
opportunity
for
that
man
for
you,
okay!
Well,
let's
see
on
to
our
regular
topics
here
we
already
kind
of
covered
the
healthcare
Roundtable
which
has
been
scheduled
for
September
26th.
So
looking
forward
to
that,
so
let's
just
move
on
Adam
any
updates
on
your
efforts
in
Afghanistan.
D
D
We
have
a
meeting
Ben
and
I
with
Dr
Mahan,
who
is
based
in
the
states
this
afternoon
and
I
I'd
like
to
the
the
main
purpose
for
that
meeting,
is
to
make
sure
that
there's
continuing
progress
being
done
on
the
logistics
side
to
actually
get
things
shipped
out
and
start
breaking
this
into
some
phases.
You
know
what
what
a
success
going
to
look
like
the
short
term
and
the
long
term.
D
What
I
am
a
little
concerned
about
is
most
of
the
cases
that
are
being
sent.
My
way
right
now
are
lower
extremity
and
there
are
some
some
arms
thrown
in
as
well,
but
I
know
that
we
just
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
to
supply
hundreds
of
legs
to
folks
as
I
understand
it.
D
So
I
I
want
to
make
sure
the
work
that
you
know
what
the
the
the
bulk
of
the
skill
and
capacity
of
this
community
is
being
communicated.
Well
and
that's
one
of
the
level
setting
things
I'm
hoping
to
to
have
this
afternoon,
I
know:
Dr.
D
Mahan
knows
that,
but
I
think
that
what
with
the
poor
internet
connection
and
some
language
barrier
confusion
that
may
be
going
on
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
haven't
misrepresented
what
what
we're
capable
of
providing
so
yeah,
but
that
that's
about
what
we
have
so
far
I
haven't
heard
anything
from
Dr
singing
about
any
additional
contact
with
the
Red,
Cross
or
UNICEF,
or
the
who
I
know
that
he
is
in
the
midst
of
working
through
the
National
Health
Minister
to
try
to
establish
and
contact
there,
but
I
know.
D
Dr
Mayhem
also
has
some
connections
with
the
icrc
in
that
region
and
yeah.
Hopefully,
hopefully
we
can
start
getting
a
little
bit
of
traction.
There
I'd,
like
to
I,
said
I
didn't
have
a
lot
of
updates,
but
man
I,
guess
I
do
I'd
like
to
start
sharing
the
cases
that
have
been
provided
to
me,
the
potential
recipients
with,
at
the
very
least
this
team
at
some
point
for
the
next
week.
D
So
we
can
talk
about
how
these
things
are
going
to
be
allocated
and
how
they're
going
to
be
grabbed,
whether
that's
done
the
Hub
or
elsewhere,
because
that
that's
the
point
at
which
I've
got
a
big
black
box
of
the
knowledge
Gap
that
I'm
not
really
sure
how
to
reconcile
so
yeah.
If
we
can,
if
we
can
address
that,
Gap
I
think
we'll
be
in
a
good
position.
B
Sounds
good,
let
me
know
if
I
can
help
there.
Obviously
we
have
the
enable
essential
platform.
I
I
think
that's
probably
not
the
right
tool
for
this,
because
we
don't
need
that
extra
complexity
in
the
process.
We
want
something.
That's
very
simple
for
this,
so
sure,
honestly,
the
first
thing
that
comes
to
mind
to
me
would
be
a
simple
spreadsheet.
D
So
I've
I've
made
that
and
I
shared
it
prior
to
the
case.
Collection
and
I,
don't
I'm
a
little
confused
as
to
whether
it's
not
being
used
because
they're
not
able
to
access
the
sheet
or
it's
I.
I
suspect
that
Dr
poya's
spoken
language
might
be
a
little
bit
better
than
his
receptive,
because
I
can
I
can
understand
and
perfectly
well,
but
sometimes
I
feel
like
what
I'm
saying
it
isn't.
Quite
it
isn't
reaching
the
mark.
D
So
so.
This
is
where
one
of
the
reasons
I
wouldn't
talk
to
lock
in
my
hand,
just
make
sure
that
that
you
know
what
what
what
I'm
communicating
is
is
reaching,
of
course,
reaching
their
ears
correctly,
but
yeah
I'm,
getting
images
of
handwritten
notes
for
all
of
these,
which
is
great,
I,
can
transcribe
them.
But
it's
really
not
tenable
long
term.
I
can
use
that
as
a
communication
method,
so
yeah,
all
of
which
I'm
hoping
we
can
start
to
iron
out
this
afternoon.
Okay,.
B
And
have
we
managed
to
get
you
in
contact
with
Ahmad
from
Syria
who's
done,
work
with
legs.
D
B
It's
okay,
it's,
but
he
might
be
worth
talking
too
because
I,
he
shared
a
presentation
once
in
the
past,
and
they
they
definitely
have
have
had
some
success.
Fabricating
like
devices
using
you,
know
some
okay
metal
components
for
the
for
the
core,
but
with
some
3D
printing
on
the
feet,
elements
and
I,
don't
know
what
their
capacity
is.
I,
don't
know
if
they're
in
a
position
to
help,
but
it
would
be
worth
talking
to
them.
That's.
E
A
really
great
Point,
Jeremy
I
I,
sent
Adam
a
list
of
some
sort
of
regional
chapters
that
are
doing
important
work,
the
chapter
in
Syria
being
one
of
them
and
the
I
think
not
just
in
terms
of
lower
limb
expertise.
But
if
thinking
about
trying
to
sort
of
kick
start
a
regional
effort,
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
sustainable
than
trying
to
figure
out
how
from
the
US.
We
can
be
shipping
this
stuff
over
and
right.
E
Trying
to
maintain
that
so
there's
also
the
the
Pakistan
chapter,
Turkey
just
sent
an
email
earlier
today
about.
You
know
the
efforts
that
they're
doing
I
know.
They've
got
some
some
really
wonderful,
Partnerships
and
they're
working
pretty
closely
with
folks
in
the
region,
so
I
also
included
as
an
example.
Chapter
Spotlight,
tyreach
I
think,
would
be
really
worth
checking
in
with
because
they're
a
chapter
within
a
department
of
a
hospital
system
and
and
I
think
in
terms
of
long-term
support.
E
For
for
these
folks,
you
know
not
just
sort
of
being
able
to
give
a
device
but
to
be
able
to
track
it
and
fit
it,
and
it
sounds
like
you.
You've
been
mapping
a
really
good
Network
within
the
hospital
system
in
Kabul
that
might
be
sort
of
a
model.
D
Yeah
I,
I
think
and
I
I
apologize,
Ben,
I,
I
haven't
reached
out
Ben
I
should
note
on
the
subject
of
updates
in
this
friend
spent
a
great
deal
of
time
on
the
phone
with
me
last
week,
walking
through
these
ideas-
and
he
has
proven
himself
yet
again
to
be
a
great
wealth
of
information
in
this
in
this
sphere.
D
But
yeah
we
will
I
I.
Think
I
should
have
a
little
bit
more
air
next
week
to
try
to
start
contacting
those
those
chapter
sites
then,
and
hopefully
trying
to
get
something
like
a
coalition.
As
we
discussed.
D
Right
he's
from
Afghanistan
originally
and
he's
the
person
who
put
me
in
touch
with
Dr
singing
in
Kabul,
the
two
of
them
go
way
back
apparently,
but
yeah.
He
Dr
Mahan,
went
to
the
same
I
completed
a
course
credit
for
my
MBA
through
the
University
of
Missouri's
School
of
Public
Health,
and
he
completed
his
mph
there.
D
So
a
professor
put
us
in
touch
but
yeah
I
believe
he's
actually
yeah
I
know
he
was
living
in
California
for
a
while
he
might
be
in
New
York.
Now,
I,
don't
remember
where
he's
currently
living
okay,
but
yeah,
we'll
we'll
be
meeting
this
afternoon,
I've
confirmed
with
him
the
time
which
will
be
three
Central
Time.
E
Okay,
yeah
I'll
be
able
to
join
for
for
a
little
bit.
Then
it
might
be
worthwhile
if
we
could,
if
we
draft
sort
of
a
kind
of
an
introduction
like
a
one
paragraph
introduction
to
this
project
that
could
be
sent
out
to
to
Ahmad
and
Assad
and
some
of
the
other
folks
in
the
region.
E
Maybe
after
that
call,
you
know,
maybe
that
the
point
of
that
call
could
be
sort
of
figuring
out
how
we
can
set
up
a
meeting
with
the
folks
in
Afghanistan
and
some
of
the
regional
Partners
just
to
share
the
need
and
some
of
the
expertise
and
I
think
Ahmad
is
probably
going
to
be
a
pretty
key
player.
If
he's
got
the
bandwidth
for
it.
Okay,
perfect
and.
D
C
B
Okay
and
since
Ben
mentioned
zainab
in
Turkey,
I
hadn't
seen
the
email
yet
so
I
went
and
pulled
it
up
and
there's
some
interesting
news.
There.
There
they've
been
working
on
a
documentary
project.
They
have
funding
from
the
Turkish
Ministry
of
culture
and
they've
been
filming
for
a
while.
So
it's
already
a
work
in
progress.
B
The
Producers
have
also
applied
for
other
funds,
and
recently
the
project
was
selected
as
a
finalist
in
a
Japanese
prize
competition
for
educational
media
and
they
want
to
apply
for
some
other
funds
as
well.
They
want
to
include
more
of
the
international
parts
of
the
story,
so
she
has
some
questions
for
us
that'll.
Let
you
guys
look
at
the
email
for
basically
looking
at
other
I
think
she's.
B
Looking
for
other
good
video
content,
she
found
one
of
my
interviews
from
years
ago
and
she's
asking
what
else
we
have
asking
about
chapters
in
the
UK
and
team.
B
C
Etc
so
I'll,
let
you
guys
look
at
the
email,
but
I
mentioned
that,
because
that
strikes
me
as
something
that
Adam
you
might
be
interested
in
as
Outreach
coordinator,
because
that
sounds
like
if
they,
if
they're
successful
in
getting
these
documentaries
out
there,
that
could
really
do
a
lot
to
help.
You
know
awareness
if.
E
Okay,
so
what
else
you're
a
better
person
than
me,
I,
usually
just
keep
lathering
all
right.
So
take
a
quick
look
at
our
Open
tickets.
I!
Don't
think!
There's
much
here!
Let's
see
we
did
meet
with
with
the
Harris
County
Public
Library
folks,
oh
good
how'd
that
go
kamiko
was.
E
B
C
Basically,
it
was
just
encouraging
her
to
to
keep
doing
what
she's
doing
excellent
okay,
when
I
had
anything
anything
in
time.
I
guess
we're
still
looking
at
kind
of
adding
layers
of
information
to
our
map,
where
we
might
highlight
things
like
that,
like
libraries
with
printers
and
stuff
like
that,
right,
yes-
and
we
did
discuss
that
yeah
everything
Ben
said
is
true.
She's
also
got
an
amazingly
interesting
background.
She's,
a
black
woman.
She
was
training
to
be
an
astronaut.
She
got
a
degree
in
mathematics.
B
She
was
teaching
now
she's
teaching
in
the
library
system.
All
of
her.
B
With
the
teaching
and
she's
a
Powerhouse,
well
I'm
hoping
that's
like
teaching
at
26
schools,
my
goodness,
that's
right,
oh
yeah!
It's
pretty
interesting
and
she
does
seem
like
she'd,
be
a
good
fit
for
you
know
once
things
sort
of
settle
into,
you
know
how
she
can
manage
enable
within
that
system.
She
could
be
a
really
great
resource
for
absolutely
enable
education
and
getting
more
involved
with
some
of
the
schools
and
universities.
That's
right
rights!
B
E
Got
a
whole
bunch
of
things
going
on
in
September,
but
she
was
interested
in
joining
starting
October
excellent,
excellent,
okay,
I'm
going
to
close
this
ticket
since
you
guys
are
in
touch
now.
Thank
you
for
handling
that
and
that's
all
we
have
open
right
now.
So
we
got
20
minutes
left
on
the
clock.
I
don't
know
guys
does.
C
Any
thoughts
well
20
minutes
is,
is
the
check
of
time.
I
think
we
could
begin
to
discuss
it
all
right.
Well,
so.
B
Here's
the
notes
that
I
put
down
discussion
prior
to
voting,
so
this
was
something
that
was
already
agreed
upon
previously.
It
seems
that
maybe
some
people
weren't
aware
of
it,
but
there
was
a
vote
taken
already
on
this
and
we
did
agree
as
a
community
that
new
proposals
should
be
put
up
as
a
discussion.
First,
they
should
be
left
for
at
least
a
week
to
allow
open
discussion
and
then
it
should
be
turned
into
a
voting
proposal.
We
shouldn't
go
straight
to
voting
so
I
guess
on
this
point.
I.
C
Just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
all
still
agree
with
that.
Does
that
still
make
sense?
Do
we
want
to
just
kind
of
reiterate
that,
as
the
the
recommender
or
the
policy,
the
recommended
approach
for
this
any
thoughts
on
discussion
prior
to
voting.
C
It
does
seem
like
there,
it.
B
Was
it
wasn't
so
clear
so
figuring
out?
You
know
if
if
we
say
that
this
is
how
we
want
to
do
things,
but
you
still
are
able
to
sort
of
create
a
proposal.
The
other
way,
yeah
I,
think
it's
either
on
us
to.
A
C
Of
guide
people
through
the
correct
process
or
if
it's
possible
to
sort
of
change
the
the
navigation
well
important
thing,
I,
think
you're,
right,
I
think
it's
pop
it.
It
probably
is
the
case.
B
That's
an
interesting
thought
when
you
do
start
the
vote,
though
you
do
have
to
put
in
the
details
so
I
guess
we
could
copy
and
paste
that
from
the
discussion
right
up,
but
we'd
have
to
figure
that.
B
C
B
Similarly,
the
I'm
sorry
Ben.
Similarly,
the
question
of
the
duration
of
a
a
vote
should
probably,
if
possible,
also
be
under
control
of
the
admins.
Not
the
the
individual
I
think
it's
investing
a
lot
of
people
who
are
new
to
the
system
or
not
administrating
it
to
keep
track
of
all
of
these
things.
So
well,
so
we
can
put
some
garbage
rails
there.
Also
yeah,
that's
the
next
topic
here,
so
extensions,
the
voting
deadlines.
We
never
really
defined.
B
How
long
I
I
think
discussion
can
run
as
long
as
people
want
right.
If,
if
you
feel
more
discussion
is
needed,
extend
it,
let
it
go
as
long
as
you
want,
but
once
we
start
a
vote,
we
should
probably
establish
a
period
of
time
to
me.
I'll
just
say
it.
It
feels
like.
Maybe
a
two-week
period
is
appropriate.
One
week
feels
a
little
bit
short
and
I
think
longer
than
two
weeks
is
too
long,
so
I
would
suggest
maybe
a
standard,
two-week
duration
for
all
voting,
but
I'm
open
to
suggestions.
B
C
For
two
weeks
and
with
no
extensions
I
have
an
amendment
on
that,
though,
which
is
that
one
weakness
of
the
system
is
that
if
A
Change
Is
Made
To
The
Proposal
people
ought
to.
A
E
The
proposal,
assuming
they
notify
correctly,
everyone
that
has
voted,
should
get
a
notification
of
that
update
and
then
they're
free
to
change
their
vote.
Maybe
my
point
is:
if
that
happens,
the
night
before
the
proposal
terminates
people
don't
have
a
chance.
Okay,
so
my
suggestion
would
be
that
the
the
rules
that
I
again
I
don't
know
if
lumio
can
can
enforce
this,
but
it
seems
to
me
it
would
be
appropriate
to
have
a
couple
of
days
when.
D
In
order
to
give
well
I
agree
with
opportunity
with
the
idea
of
no
changes
to
proposals
within
I
put
within
48
Hours
of
closing
deadline
that
makes
sense
I'm
not
as
well.
So
that's
another
way
of
doing
it.
Of
course,
yes,
I'm,
not
as
much
in
favor
of
saying
no
voting,
I
I,
don't
see
any
problem
with
somebody
voting
at
the
last
minute.
D
B
B
People
this
would
address
that
as
well.
Well,
here's
one
option
right
now
when
somebody
joins
lumio.
As
you
know,
John
it
goes
into
a
holding
bucket
and
one
of
the
admins
needs
to
approve.
C
Maybe
we
just
agree
on
a
policy
that,
when
there
is
a
voting
proposal
in
progress,
we
do
not
admit
new
members
until
the
vote
has
closed
and
then
we'll
go
in
and
admit
any
members
that
are
waiting.
Maybe
we
just
don't
admit
new
people
during
a
vote
and
that
would
prevent
that
problem
from
you
know
just
going
out
and
recruiting
people
to
vote
on
your
proposal,
that's
interesting,
I
mean.
Does
that
apply
to
the
discussion
period
as
well,
doesn't
need
to
it's
up
to
you,
I
mean.
B
B
Do
they
get?
You
know
their
team
involved.
E
C
True
too,
let's
just
review
that
I
I'm
not
really
clear
about
the
blocking.
Well,
so,
let's,
okay,
we're
jumping
around
a
little
bit,
but
that's
okay!
Let
me
go
down
here
to
the
requirements
in
voting,
because
this
is
our
calculation,
sorry,
because
this
is
something
that
that
we
we
need
to
review
anyway.
So.
C
B
D
Feel
comfortable
supporting
this
and
that
really
should
have
counted
against
so
I
I
want
to
just
propose
something.
One.
One
option
that
we
could
think
about
is
switching
to
just
a
scoring
system,
where
I
would
suggest
that
each
agree
vote
counts
as
a
plus
one.
Each
abstain
vote
counts
as
a
minus
one.
D
B
E
E
B
B
C
C
I
think
it's
really
interesting.
I
think
that
the
automatic
pie
charts
that
lumio
produces
May
confuse
the
matter
because,
of
course
it
well
okay,
it
has
connotations
that
communicate.
You
know.
Equality
of
votes
well,
I
gotta
find
a
better
one
to
look
at
as
an
example.
Here.
B
Let's
see
an
oblio
yeah
I
think
the
other
thing
I
would
also
suggest
is
I've,
been
under
the
assumption
and
I
think
this
has
been
the
Assumption
the
last
three
years
that
I've
been
here
that
that
agreeing
it
is
sort
of
one
of
the
the.
A
Plus
ones,
actually,
if
you
can
find
a
vote,
if
you
go
back
quite
a
bit,
you
can
find
some
some
votes
that
include
disagrees
and
agrees
and
abstain
seemed
like
it
would
if,
if
they're
counted
as
a
vote,
but
not
yeah.
So
if,
if
the,
if
the
person
needs
to
get
a
certain
amount
of
green,
the
abstains
make
it
harder
to
get
that
green.
B
A
B
A
E
B
Quick
things
number
one
I,
don't
think
I'm
super
comfortable
with
a
voting
system
where
voting
in
one
way
carries
more
weight
inherently
than
voting
another
way
and
and
then
but
I
I,
totally
see
where
you're
coming
from,
but
I
think.
Maybe
if
we
have
that
standard
in
place
where
a
certain
percentage
of
the
the
aggregate
vote
has
to
hit
that
yes,
threshold
voting
to
abstain,
doesn't
count
one
way
or
the
other,
except
that
it
raises
the
threshold.
Well,
so
then,
maybe
maybe
it's
our
current.
B
B
So
what
we
would
be
saying
is
that
your
proposal
must
have
at
least
15
agree
votes
with
at
least
80
percent
of
the
total
votes
in
support,
and
so
that,
if
we
go
back
to
this
as
an
example,
this
one
would
not
have
passed
because
we
were
only
at
74
approval,
but
had
we
had
enough
just
a
couple
more
agree:
votes
where
this
hit
80
percent?
This
would
have
been
approved
based
on
that
scenario.
So
how
do
you
guys
feel
about
that
of
just
just
disposing
of
that?
Clause
that
says
abstain.
B
Votes
are
not
counted
in
this
calculation
I'm
in
favor,
okay,
I
I
do
like
this
the
best
of
what
we've
discussed
there.
It
is
a
little
odd,
maybe
it's
fine
but
odd,
that
an
abstain
and
a
no
are
treated
the
same.
And
secondly,
let's
remember
that
most
people
do
not
vote
and
that's
distinct
from
abstain.
B
So
right
those
are
down.
That's
right,
I
think
maybe
I
like
this,
because
it
allows
people
to
gently
distant
without
their
vote
being
discarded.
Yeah.
That's
right,
I!
Definitely
like
it
more
than
what
we've
done.
I
I
didn't
even
remember
that
it
had
been
that
way
and
this
it
makes
so
much
more
sense
to
me
to
include
those
so
yeah
I
agree.
B
It's
imperfect
that
abstain
and
disagree
are
treated
the
same
but
I
think
it's
better
than
ignoring
abstain,
votes
well,
the
way
I
see
it
sorry,
the
way
I
see
it
is
that
a
no
vote
raises
the
bar
for
the
total
percentage.
Oh
I
see
what
you
mean
because
it
doesn't
contribute.
That's
why
you
were
thinking
of
applying
a
negative
so
the
way
that
to
to
make
a
differentiation
between
the
abstain
and
the
disagree
is
sort
of
value.
B
So
if
you
go
back
up
to
the
top,
so
if
you're
saying
that
you
need
a
certain
percentage
of
yes,
votes
of
staining
makes
it
so
it
raises
the
bar,
but
you
could
also
say
that
it
doesn't
fly
if
you
get
a
certain
percentage
of
no
votes
of
disagrees,
so
you
can
make
this
screen.
That
would
be
inherent
in
the
equation.
Wouldn't
it
I
mean
if
we
say
that
you
need
at
least
80
percent
agree,
then
you
know
anything.
You
know
if
you
have
more
than
20
percent
between
disagreeing
abstain.
B
It's
not
going
to
pass
well,
you
know
what
Ben
is
saying
is
that
if
you
could
have
80
percent
agree,
but
you
have
15
no
votes,
then
that
would
be
an
automatic
disqualifier
and
that
I
think
Jeremy
would
be
the
the
weight
to
the
people
with
with
you
know,
maybe
caution
in
mind
that
you
are
moving
forward
with
the
negative
two
yeah,
so
it
could
be.
Let's
say
if
it's
80
have
to
be
for
a
project.
You
could
say
that
you
know
somebody
can
block
it.
B
One
person
can
say
okay,
no,
we
have
to
have
a
discussion
or
you
can
say
if
10,
if
there's
10
disagreeing,
that's
also
at
a
required
discussion
or
something
like
that,
I
mean
you
could
have
a
certain
percentage
of
disagrees
that
go
in
the
same
direction
as
the
block
and
abstain
is
just
basically
saying
I'm,
not
sure
we
need
more
people
to
either
agree
or
disagree,
and
it
makes
it
it
sort
of
requires
more
activity,
but
it
still
supports
the
process.
B
So
if
you,
if
you
do,
get
an
abstain,
it
it
goes
towards
the
the
sort
of
the
threshold
of
activity.
But
then
what
are
we
saying
about
disagree?
Are
we
saying
a
certain
number
of
disagree?
Votes
would
block
it
or
I
have
percentage.
B
But
I'm
holding
up
three
fingers
because
I'm
trying
to
remember
three
points.
Okay,
the
first
one
is
I
haven't
heard.
We
want
to
discuss
the
block
concept,
which
I
still
don't
understand.
B
Two
is
a
way
to
another.
Variation
on
this
is
to
say
and
agree,
is
a
plus
one.
I
disagree
is
a
minus
one
and
an
abstain
simply
increases
the
denominator,
so
that
actually
does
honor
the
difference
between
them
and
I've
forgotten.
The
third
point:
it's
not
a
minus
one,
though
the
problem
is
that
it's
you
can
come
up
with
all
these
ideas,
but
working
with
the
lumio
platform.
B
We
can't
that
disagrees.
Don't
actually
take
away
any
of
the
agrees
they
just
they
establish
well,
but
the
the
threshold
for
you
can
have
a
percent.
You
could
have
numbers,
but
you're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
have
a
negative.
That's
that's
just
not
something.
That's
not
my
point.
My
point
is
no.
B
The
threshold
for
passage
is
not
built
into
Lumia
and
we
could
have.
For
example,
the
formula
that
says
agree.
Minus
disagree
must
be
greater
than
15.
and
agree.
Over
total
must
be
greater
than
80
percent.
Sure.
B
We
could
I'm
just
thinking
we
we
need
to
keep
it
as
simple
as
possible.
No
I
don't
think
we're
there
yet,
but
so
maybe
maybe
a
simpler
version
of
that
is
going
by
the
numbers
shown
in
lumio.
We
could
say
you
need
at
least
we.
We
should
come
up
with
a
total
number
of
votes
that
need
to
be
cast
like
maybe
yeah.
B
That's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
say
what,
if
we
did
away
with
the
you
know
whether
it's
a
net,
yes
value
or
a
gross
number
of
yeses
as
one
of
the
requirements.
What
if
we
did
away
with
that
entirely
and
instead
just
said
it
has
to
be
a
certain
percentage
and
a
certain
number
of
votes
have
to
be
cast.
So,
for
example,
we
could
say
minimum
20
votes
total
with
80
approval
done
bingo.
You
know
you
can
say
that,
but
then
agree
and
disagree
or
I'm.
Sorry,
abstain
and
disagree
are
doing
the
same
thing.
B
So
that's
why
they're
establishing
something
specific?
You
know
if
you
say,
and
it's
80
agree,
but
one
block
funnels
it
into
a
different
process
or
a
certain
percentage
of
disagrees
funnels
into
a
different
process.
That
might
be
something
that
okay.
So
what
do
we
think
10
disagree
would
put
it
into
that
discussion
process
10
of
the
total
10
of
the
total
votes.
For
example.
Here
three
three
disagree:
votes
was
13
percent
right.
B
My
thought
on
that
is
that
20
minutes
flies
when
you're
having
fun
that
we're
not
going
to
resolve
this
right
now,
no,
we
won't
you're
right,
but
we
certainly
got
into
it.
We've
made
progress.
That's
right!
That's
right!
B
B
It's
for
the
responsibility
of
town
hall
to
respond
resolve
this,
but
before
we
do
resolve
it,
I
think
we
should
let
people
know
that
there's
a
special
town
hall
meeting
where
we're
going
to
review
this
and
try
to
resolve
it.
But
that
means
that
next
week
we
continue
the
discussion
and
the
following
week.
We
have
a
another.
We
will
continue
this
next
week
and,
like
Ben
said
once
we
feel
comfortable
with
what
we've
come
up
with
we'll
write
it
up
as
a
discussion
thread
on
lumio.
B
Let's
get
the
community
talking
about
it
and
then
we'll
put
it
through
a
vote
like
everything
else,
but
then
the
question
is
yes:
okay,
well,
that'll
be
an
interesting.
Let's
just
hope.
Let's
just
assume
that
this
is
going
to
get
enough
positive
voting
that
it'll
it'll
be
approved
in
in
either
framework,
which
I
think
it
will
usually
these
types
of
administrative
votes.
We
think
them
through
well
enough
that
I
expect
we'll
have
pretty
much
unanimous
approval.
B
So,
let's,
let's
I,
think
that's
a
good
place
to
leave
it
here.
Let's,
let's
give
ourselves
time
to
think
about
this
I'm
going
to
keep
all
these
things
here
in
the
notes.
We've
come
up
with
a
few
good
options.
We
still
have
other
things
that
we
didn't
get
to
like
whether
or
not
we
want
to
tell
people.
You
cannot
block
on
your
own
vote
on
your
own
proposals,
which
I
think
we
should
the
the
idea
of
going
and
recruiting
people
actively
from
outside
of
being
able
to
come
in
and
vote.
B
We
have
to
talk
about
that
and
then
you
know
maybe
requirements
to
participate
in
voting.
Maybe
you
have
to
join
the
Hub
and
introduce
to
yourself.
You
know
we'll
talk
about.
Maybe
you
need
a
badge
I
don't
know,
but
those
are
things
we
need
to
talk
about
here
as
well.
So
let's
leave
it
at
that
for
now
and
we'll
revisit
it
again
next
week
or
one
time
permits
once
we
feel
comfortable
like
I,
said
we'll
write
it
up
and
and
get
input
from
the
community
we're
not
going
to
make
this
decision
unanimously.
B
Of
course,
this
is
going
to
be
that's
great.
Obviously,
this
also
is
a
good
topic
for
the
new
leadership
to
think
about,
because
the
old
leadership
is
locked
into
Old
thinking.
That's
exactly
right!
Yeah
I
welcome
anyone.
Okay,
anyone
else
have
anything
real
quick.
You
want
to
show
us
your
finger,
real,
quick
before
we
wrap
up
here.
Rick,
not
your
finger,
but
the
finger
you're
making
you
know.
You're,
muted
I
have
to
go
goodbye.
Okay,
thanks
John
thanks,
no
Rick,
no
I'm
trying
to
find
my
mute.
B
Oh
you're,
not
gonna
show
us
your
finger.
Oh
I
went
I
thought
I
was
oh,
it's
we're
making
some
progress
on
version
two!
It's
it!
It
actually
has
a
lot
more
movement,
natural
movement
than
what
we
had
on
the
last
version
and
it's
very
quick
and
very
light.
It
weighs
about
10
of
what
the
last
one
did
very
nice,
so
we're
getting
there
and
we
actually
have
a
hand.
B
Now
that
has
a
full
set,
a
minus,
a
thumb
we
still
haven't
got
the
thumb
finished
it's
on
the
bench
right
now,
but
it's
unbelievably
strong.
We
were
able
to
pick
up
an
enormous
amount
of
weight
with
it.
One
finger
was
able
to
the
only
the
only
breaking
point
was
actually
the
150
pound
thread.
So
yeah
the
material
itself
is
rated
at
2400
pounds.
So
I
don't
really
know
what
the
breaking
point
holds.
Nice,
probably
the
rest
of
your
arm.
B
Yeah
all
right,
well,
I,
know,
I,
know:
Ben
has
another
meeting
to
get
to
I.
Just
wanted
to
see
that
real,
quick,
so
we'll
wrap
it
up
for
now
and
see
you
guys
next
week,
all
right
see
ya
Ben.
How
are
your
meeting
is
on
wait,
you're,
actually
on
you
know,
you're
actually,
on
a
Google.
Do
we
have
to
get
off
this
one
right,
yeah
I
set
it
up
on
on
the
Google,
because
that
way
you
deal
with
a
login
to
zoom.
At
the
same
time,
no
worries
all
right,
see
you
guys.