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A
So
for
anyone
watching
the
recording,
welcome
to
another
town
hall,
we're
just
going
to
hang
out
here
for
a
minute
or
two
to
give
other
folks
a
chance
to
join
before
we
dive
into
our
agenda
so
feel
free
to
skip
forward.
If
you're,
just
watching
ben
you're
able
to
help
with
notes
today,
yeah
that'd
be
fine.
A
Suppose,
actually,
we
might
as
well
go
ahead
and
start
in
on
action
items
and
that'll
give
people
a
chance
to
to
get
in.
Since
I
think
we
have
everyone
here
for
action
items
so
john,
the
first
one
is
for
you
to
arrange
a
meeting
with
eric,
which
of
course
you
did
and
we
had
why?
A
So
that'll
be
immediately
following
this
meeting
with
ed
and
maybe
others
from
his
team,
but
he
seemed
interested.
So
that's
good
ben
see
if
we
can
arrange
a
presentation
by
no
I've
always
wondered.
Am
I
saying
this
right?
Does
he
just
go
by
jack
or.
B
A
It
okay,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
pronouncing
his
name
right,
see
if
we
can
arrange
a
presentation
and
one
of
the
posts
that
we're
going
to
look
at
this
week
is
another
video
that
he
shared.
I
I
really
want
to
get
him
in
here
for
a
presentation
he's
doing.
It's
amazing
work.
It
just
blew
me
away,
so
I
would
really
love
to
have
him
present
to
us
if,
if,
if
we
can
make
that
happen,.
C
I
did
a
comment
on
one
of
his
posts.
I
don't
see
a
response
yet,
but
I
can
just
send
him
a
direct
message.
C
Oh,
you
know
what
actually
he
did
send
me
a
message
yep.
He
says
he'd
love
to
talk
about
the
kwawu
at
the
town
hall.
So
there
we
go
fantastic.
A
Okay,
so
the
time
should
be
okay,
great
well,
just
like
pick
a
week,
you
know
how
it
works.
Ben.
Just
let
me
know
when
is
good
for
him,
if
you
can
coordinate
something
and
I'll
just
put
it
on
our
list
of
upcoming
presentations,
which
we
already
have
one.
So,
let's
be
aware,
we
have
one
for
the
22nd,
so
you
want
to
avoid
that
week.
C
Great
and
I
think
what
I'll
try
to
do
is
get
him
to
come
into
the
town
hall
meeting
to
give
kind
of
an
overview
of
of
some
aspects
of
his
design.
I
know
he's
got
you
know,
he's
got
the
wrist
he's
got
the
elbow.
Joint
he's
got
all
these
different
parts
that
he's
he's
been
developing.
C
Maybe
during
the
town
hall
we
can
decide,
or
I
can
ask
him
if
he'd
be
interested
in
doing
a
focus
follow-up
workshop
and
you
can
decide
in
that
town
hall
sort
of
what
would
be
the
the
most
exciting
or
sort
of
current
thing
for
him
to
focus
on
for
that.
If
he's
interested,
because
that
would
be
a
full
hour
that
he
could
focus
on
kind
of
breaking
down
his
process
and
the
device-
and
maybe
even
some
of
the
printing.
A
Sounds
great
yeah,
very
cool
work.
Well
I'll
show
you
a
short
video
that
he
posted
this
week
here.
In
a
couple
minutes,
I
had
a
task
to
write
up
a
lumia
discussion
thread,
including
a
pay
amount
for
the
matching
platform
analysis,
but
I'm
holding
off
on
that
until
after
we
have
our
discussion
with
our
friends
at
deloitte
to
see
where
that
leads,
and
if
that
doesn't
pan
out,
then
I
will
write
something
up
and
we'd
have
to
talk
about.
A
I
don't
think
we
ever
came
to
an
agreement
on
what
sort
of
a
dollar
amount
we'd
put
on
this.
So
let's,
let's
kind
of
revisit
this
after
we
have
today's
call
with
with
delight
and
speak
with
kyle
about
potential
flash
forward
partnership,
any
updates
there.
C
We
did
meet
with
kyle
john,
and
I
chatted
with
him,
and
we
had
some
ideas
about
moving
forward
with
really
it's
sort
of
focused
on
creality,
but
there
was
something
else.
What
was
it
john?
We
had
talked
about
flash
forge.
B
Well,
the
other
dimension
is
that
the
dominican
republic
seemed
like
a
a
ripe
opportunity,
so
he
was
gonna.
Was
it
dr?
He
was
gonna
discuss
that
with
creality.
B
C
And
it
might
be
worthwhile
to
have
something
in
mind
like
an
event
I
mean.
Actually
it
could
potentially
be
something
like
the
10-year
anniversary,
video
or
something.
If
we
had
a
specific
project,
I'm
getting
getting.
You
know
some
sort
of
a
contribution
or
something
like
that
might
align
with
what
we
want
to
do.
Anyways
great.
C
Well,
we
we
did
bring
it
up
with
eric,
and
that
was
something
that
I
think
came
up
with
jeff
powell
too.
So
I
think
some
of
the
next
steps
for
kind
of
coordinating
a
u.s
university
high
school
network
could
help
to
inform
some
of
that.
But
nothing
specific
and
we
we
would
be
hoping
to
establish
an
internship
for
the
summer-
is
that
what
people
are
thinking.
A
Well,
whatever
is
available
honestly,
I
mean,
I
think,
the
one
that
you
had
written
up,
if
I
recall,
was
for
development
like
web
development
kind
of
stuff
right.
So
that's
the
kind
of
thing
where
I
think
we
have
plenty
of
sort
of
tasks
or
projects
that
could
be
assigned
to
a
a
skilled
intern.
I
I
think,
whether
it's
a
summer
or
a
fall
or
whatever
the
window
happens
to
be,
we
could
make
use
of
it.
C
So
perhaps
the
the
next
step
for
john
and
I
at
one
point-
we
had
talked
to
ian
roy-
maybe
it's
time
to
to
circle
back
around
to
ian,
to
ask
him
about.
I
think
there
were
undergrad
students
that
were
sort
of
in
that
field.
A
Well,
maybe
we
should
maybe
we
should
revisit
our
list,
because
I
think
there
are
several
areas.
I
know
you've
written
up
the
one
for
web
development,
but,
for
example,
if
he
has,
I
don't
know
if
he
has.
Somebody
in
like
a
media
program
might
be
interested
in
helping
us
put
together
this
10-year
anniversary,
compilation,
video,
I
don't
know,
there's
there's
other
things
on
the
list
that
interns
might
be
a
good
fit
for.
So
maybe
it's
something
we
could
approach
as
a
you
know,
a
bigger
discussion:
hey
we
have
these
multiple
needs.
C
All
right,
john
water
and
I
reach
out
to
ian,
and
we
can
have
that
list
handy
and
and
see
if
he
has
any
ideas
and
now
I
know
some
of
the
areas
are
going
to
be
probably
different.
Schools
and
different
people
at
brandeis
to
work
with,
but.
B
Right,
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
I
think
this
larger
discussion
about
future
leadership
and
the
university
focus
would
be
relevant
to
ian
also.
A
And
you
know,
as
even
as
I
think
about
it
on
our
list.
One
of
the
items
that
we
have
is
somebody
to
help
maintain
our
device
catalog
on
the
hub,
but
it
occurs
to
me
that
at
this
point
I've
fallen
so
far
behind
that
there's
really
a
project
in
somebody
helping
us
just
to
get
caught
up
and
updated
in
the
device
catalog
and
then
somebody
could
take
over
maintenance.
You
know
just
going
live
with
alexander's
new
design
is
a
task
in
and
of
itself,
and
then
we've
got
at
this
point.
B
B
A
C
And
do
we
want
to
get
that
in
there
before
having
jack
buchanan
present.
A
Ideally,
absolutely
I
I
don't
know
if
we'll
pull
it
off,
but
I'm
thinking
about
the
sequential
I
you
know
do
I
I'd
have
to
either
put
it
in
in
the
using
the
old
design,
template
or
I'd
have
to
first
figure
out
how
to
go,
live
with
the
new
design
and
then
get
it
in
there
under
the
new
design.
Yeah,
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
I
can
get
that
done.
It
depends
on
when
the
meeting
is.
Let's
see.
C
We
could
do
the
29th
of
april.
I
mean
next
week
would
probably
be
a
short
notice
for
you
to
try
to
catch
up
on
that
stuff.
So
we
could
also
try
to
see
if
anybody
we
could
make
a
post
in
the
hub
and
see
if
you
can
get
some
help
with
it.
If
that
would
be
worthwhile
right.
A
A
little
bit
that
would
be
very
helpful.
Yes,
yes,
yeah,
let's
see
what
we
can
do,
let's
certainly
we
can
try
and
we'll
do
our
best,
we'll
prioritize
the
quad
with
three
that'll
be
the
first
one
that
we
work
on.
Maybe
try
putting
that
in
using
the
new
design
and
the
the
import
template
that
they
have
for
that.
I've
actually
never
used
that.
So
I'll
need
a
refresher,
but
let's
give
it
a
shot.
C
A
Okay,
so
that's
our
action
items
we
do.
As
I
mentioned,
we
have
one
upcoming
special
presentation
on
the
schedule
for
the
22nd
we're
going
to
have
seif,
presenting
the
paper
that
they
recently
published,
understanding
the
care
ecosystems
of
3d
printed,
assistive
devices,
sort
of
a
summation
of
the
research
work
they've
been
doing,
and
that
includes
others
besides
scythe,
of
course,
but
she'll
be
giving
the
presentation-
and
hopefully
we'll
have
another
guest
presentation
on
the
schedule
soon
from
jack
buchanan.
A
Looking
forward
to
that,
so
we've
got
our
metrics
here,
a
couple
of
things
that
stood
out.
We
have
a
couple
of
new
chapters
which
put
us
over
the
200
mark
on
our
active
chapter
number.
Otherwise,
things
are
pretty
consistent
in
terms
of
activities.
Our
enable
fund
remains
where
it
has
been
at
a
fairly
high
water
mark,
and
hopefully
we
can
put
that
to
good
use
in
the
months
to
come.
A
Okay,
so
from
the
hub
a
couple
of
interesting
posts.
This
week,
we've
got
one
from
martina
who's
with
filament
pm
they're
a
producer
of
filament
in
the
czech
republic
and
they're
seeking
volunteers
to
help
test
their
skin
tone
filaments.
I
had
some
some
communications
with
her.
I
believe
that
they
are
doing
pla
filaments,
so
not
the
best
fit
in
all
circumstances,
but
for
wherever
you
know,
temperature
isn't
a
concern.
A
You
know,
that's
that's
the
the
direction
they
took,
so
they
have
seven
skin
tones
that
they
identified
and
are
producing
in
in
those
filaments.
They're
looking
for
volunteers
to
help
test
those
to
make
some
devices.
A
E
I
want
to
show
the
latch
real,
quick
on
the
new
q3
with
it
open
the
latch
here,
this
mechanism
open
the
elbow
bends
and
opens
and
closes
and
the
hand
you
can
see,
opens
and
closes
with
it
and
then,
if
I
close
the
latch
and
it
ratchets
down
and
then
the
elbow
moves
without
the
and
the
hand
stays
closed
right,
grasping
something.
E
And
so
let
me
show
you
really
quickly
right,
I'm
going
to
open
it
up.
I
can
release
and
open
it
that
way.
If
I
take
the.
E
Elbow
bolt
out
nice,
so
there's
the
latch
mechanism,
you
can
see
the
teeth
in
there
and
one
thing:
that's
different.
Is
this
tensioner?
Is
this
little
square
thing
right?
So
if
I
pull
this
off
it's
kind
of
hard
to
see,
but
the
string
is
just
wrapped
around
this
thing,
so
I
can
unwrap
it
or
wrap
it
a
few
more
times,
just
by
spinning
that
little
square
and
then
putting
it
back
in
here
and
then
inside
the
latch
here.
Let
me
open
that
up
real
quick.
E
It
uses
that
number
four
sheet
metal
screw
to
hold
it
down
and
if
I
look
inside
there's
this
little
latch
piece
here
right,
that's
a
single
print
piece
that
kind
of
bends
back
and
forth
to
to
create
the
ratchet.
The
only
unique
thing
is
this
two
millimeter
rod.
E
It
would
just
it
just
didn't
last
I
mean
it
would
work
for
a
while
and
then
it
would
break,
and
so
I
just
broke
down
and
used
this
two
millimeter
rod.
You
can
buy
these
on
amazon
they're
like
a
two
millimeter
axle
and
then
cut
a
piece
off
your
average
wire
coat.
Hanger
is
always
two
millimeters
in
diameter,
so
you
need
do
need
a
little
piece
of
two
millimeter
wire
to
sort
of
have
be
the
pivot
point
for
that
that
rotation.
E
If
the
teeth
holds
in
place
and
then
when
I
let
go
of
the
teeth,
let
it
go.
This
is
an
adult
size
arm.
So
I'd
use
that
because
it's
really
easy
to
see
the
parts.
This
is
a
child
size
arm
and
it
has
the
same
mechanism
built
in
there
right
I'll,
assemble
this
as
part
of
the
assembly
video
it
all.
It
works
exactly
the
same
and
works
on
all
the
various
sizes.
E
B
A
Execution
I
mean
that
is
some
of
the
finest
engineering
I've
seen
in
a
while.
That
is
really
is
impressive,
elegant
design,
so
I
definitely
want
to
get
this
one
in
the
catalog
and
get
some
some
experience
with
myself.
That
looks
fantastic,
okay,
so
that's
one
post
I
wanted
to
highlight,
and
then
we
have
one
from
john
gundy
a
question
about
sample
sizing
photos,
so
he
was
looking
for
sample
sizing
photos
that
they
could
use
in
their
classroom
to
practice.
The
virtual
fitting
process
in
fusion,
360.
A
and
masby
was
kind
enough
to
point
out
that,
yes,
we
actually
have
a
badge
for
enabled
device
sizing
and
that
badge
includes
several
test
cases
that
you
can
download
right
here,
and
so
he
pointed
them
to
those
sizing
photos
which
we
already
have,
and
I
think
those
are
the
only
ones
I
captured
this
week.
So
I
don't
know,
does
anybody
I
don't
know.
I
don't
think
any
of
these
really
have
a
lot
to
discuss.
Anybody
have
any
comments
or
questions
just
wanted
to
call
those
out.
A
Okay,
so
on
we
go
summary
of
recurring
meetings.
Our
next
one
coming
up
is
going
to
be
this
monday,
the
chapter
leaders,
meeting
ben
you
want
to
share
any
highlights
with
us
I'll
pull
up
the
summary
here.
C
Sure
it's
the
chapter
leader
is
john,
so
he
can
give
you
a
little
bit
more
insight,
but
it's
something
that
we
have.
Every
month
the
chapter
leaders
come
together.
Usually
we
have
a
guest
presenter,
but
this
month
we
have
more
of
a
theme
and
we're
we've
contacted
all
the
european
chapters
and
gotten
a
lot
of
feedback.
So
john,
if
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
B
I
just
raised
the
question
that
you
can
see
there
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
in
europe.
I'm
sure
all
of
our
european
chapters
have
comments
to
share
with
us
who
are
more
removed
from
what's
going
on
and
there
is
the
possibility-
which
I
think
is
slim,
but
certainly
we
should
explore
that.
There's.
A
role
for
enable
people
are
talking
about
tourniquets,
there's
going
to
be
a
need
for
prosthetics,
whether
the
eu
and
its
mechanisms
and
the
ukrainians
have.
B
B
That's
right,
so
this
will
be
an
opportunity
to
explore
those
issues.
It
will
also
be
attended
by.
B
B
In
the
last
few
weeks
he
put
a
gripper
hand
on
one
of
them
and
it
looks
quite
slick,
and
since
they
are
beginning
to
approach
the
market
they've
remained
interested
with
us
and
they're
in
europe,
and
obviously
the
socket
is
an
important
part
of
this
problem.
He'll
be
attending
also,
so
it
should
be
an
interesting
meeting.
A
Okay,
anything
else
you
want
to
talk
about
an
event
spin.
C
C
That
might
actually
be
a
really
great
opportunity
to
see
if
we
can
invite
some
of
the
new
members
to
help
us
out
with
the
devices
that
we
talked
about,
especially
if
we
can
get
jack
to
be
presenting
on
the
29th
that'll
give
a
little
bit
of
time.
It'll
give
two
weeks.
A
C
And
then
I
guess
the
following
friday:
pope
paraguay
will
be
giving
it
a
deep
dive.
Look
at
their
lower
limb,
designs
and
they've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
in
in
that
area,
which
is
great,
so
it
might
be
in
spanish,
with
a
automatic,
captioning
and
english
conversions,
but
we'll
see.
A
Great
okay,
I
don't
think
I
have
any
one-time
events
so
on
we
go
so
we've.
I
I
think
the
main
discussion
continues
to
be
sort
of
this
broad
topic
of
just
sort
of
this
transitioning
phase
that
we're
in
happens
to
be
sort
of
our
as
we
approach
our
10-year
anniversary
or
go
through
our
10-year
anniversary.
We
are
also
going
through
some
changes
with
certain
people
retiring
or
at
least
reducing
their
level
of
activity
and
we're
sort
of
just
asking
the
question
of
how
do
we
go
forward?
A
Obviously,
one
approach
is
just
to
try
to
replace
ourselves.
You
know
find
other
people
to
continue
doing
what
we've
been
doing
and
kind
of
move
forward.
We're
not
convinced,
that's
necessarily
the
right
approach.
Maybe
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
look
at
doing
things
differently,
but,
however,
we
move
forward
some
kind
of
leadership.
Some
kind
of
new
new
leadership
is,
I
think,
called
for,
and
so
we've
been
starting
to
have
discussions
with
individuals
that
might
be
involved
in
that
we've
been
exploring
different
possible
models.
A
Looking
at
how
others,
some
of
our
chapters
and
other
regions
have
done
things,
we've
had
discussions
about
different
types
of
you
know
organizational
approaches
to
kind
of
coordinating
things
within
a
certain
region,
and
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
that
there
are
any
right
answers,
we're
just
trying
to
come
up
with
how
we
can
best
support
this
community
and
keep
things
thriving.
A
You
know,
there's
if
we're
being
honest
activities
here
in
the
u.s
feel
like
they've
plateaued
a
little
bit
compared
to
what
we're
seeing
elsewhere
and
we're
you
know
part
of
what
we've
talked
about
in
in
our
previous
discussions
on
this
is
you
know,
maybe
our
main
focus
here
in
the
us
isn't
really
about
making
devices
for
people.
A
I
mean
we'll
do
that
when
the
need
arises,
of
course,
but
maybe
there's
a
bigger
opportunity
for
us
here
in
the
us
to
focus
on
doing
more
coordinated
r
d
or
design
development
or
documenting
procedures,
or
you
know
whatever
things
like
that,
that
could
then
be
shared
with
the
broader
community
as
opposed
to
just
focusing
on
making
devices.
So
anyway,
let
me
at
that
with
that
sort
of
summary,
let
me
just
open
it
up
for
discussion
again
and
see
if
you
guys
have
any
thoughts
or
where
you
want
to
go
with
this.
B
You
know
I
can
say
that
we
had.
We
had
two
encouraging
conversations
this
week,
one
with
eric
buba
and
one
with
jeff
powell,
who
gave
a
dynamite
presentation
to,
I
think,
was
the
education
group
custody.
I
really
recommend
it.
B
Sure
so
jeff
has
you
know:
jeff
started,
I
think
when
he
was
in
high
school
or
an
undergraduate
with
a
naval
he's
now
a
third
year
medical
student
specializing
in
ophthalmology,
I
think,
but
over
the
years
he
went
from
one
chapter
in
the
north
carolina
research
triangle
area
to
now
a
network
of
eight
university
trap
chapters
in
that
region,
they've
created
a
not-for-profit
called
the
helping
hands,
foundation
and
they're
they've
just
done
a
terrific
job
of
helping
each
individual
chapter
establish
its
own
unique
niche
within
their
ecosystem.
B
They
have
the
most
sophisticated
and
wonderful
program
which
was
suspended
under
covet,
but
is
now
resuming
of
having
twice
yearly
get-togethers
for
families
of
recipients
and
of
other
kids
with
limb
differences,
and
that
social
network,
I
think,
is
their
biggest
contribution
of
all.
They
have
provided
devices,
but
they
have
really
thought
through
and
done
a
good
job
of
recognizing
that
they're
in
a
really
interesting
position
too.
B
To
give
many
of
these
kids
their
first
opportunity
to
meet
other
kids
like
them
and
to
also
compare
notes
on
devices
and
on
parental
issues
and
the
parents
get
to
compare
notes
with
them
and
so
on.
This
is
something
that.
B
Job
doing
it
and
they've
done
it
in
a
in
a
in
a
more
sophisticated
organizational
manner
than
we.
B
A
geographical
region
and
they
have
a
mix
of
mostly
face-to-face
meetings,
but.
B
B
Have
a
an
executive
director
which
is
a
part-time
position
and
he
wondered
whether
we
would
explore
the
possibility
of
funding
that
person
for
some
more
hours
in
order
to
expand
the
scope
of
what
they're
doing,
and
I
think
that's
exactly
the
kind
of
thing
we
want
to
explore.
So
I
said
absolutely
we're
interested
in
discussing
that
and
that
conversation
will
continue.
A
If
there's
already
an
organization
in
place,
helping
hands
well,
the
enable
fund
could
support
that
organization
and
their
expansion
if
they
choose
to
allocate
some
of
those
funds
to
giving
some
guy
more
hours.
Great,
that's
up
to
them,
but
I'd
suggest
that
we
think
about
supporting
their
organization
financially
so
that
they
can
figure
out
how
to
achieve
that
expansion.
That
would
help
us.
B
You
know,
I
said
to
them
and
I
said
to
eric
that
I
think
the
real
question
you
know
besides
these
tactical
issues
is
they
jeff
and
his
crew
clearly
have
a
clear
and
mature
vision
for
how
to
do
what
they
have
done
and
I
think
adding
a
clear
and
mature
vision
to
our
own,
clear
and
mature,
but
now
well
worked
out.
Vision
will
be
very
helpful.
A
The
part
you
described
about
how
they
work
with
chapters
to
help
each
one
find
kind
of
an
area
of
specialty
and
focus.
I
to
me
that's
something
that
that's
not
just
an
educational
thing
right
that
would
that
would
help
any
of
our
chapters
in
the
u.s.
I
think
that's
so
I
I
it's
the
way
they're
doing
things
sound
like
it
would
be
relevant
in
supporting
our
overall.
What
we're
calling
enable
us,
as
opposed
to
just
the
educational
sort
of
sector,
that
I
think
we
were
talking
about
I'd
love
to
see
that
pursued.
B
B
B
There's
a
biomedical
engineering
program
enable
continues
to
be
an
important
part
of
that
program,
and
he
has
a
particular
vision
for
materials
and
utility
testing
as
a
research
focus
for
the
biomedical
and
for
enabled
chapters
in
general,
and
so
he
also,
I
think,
is
open
to
the
idea
of
thinking
how,
in
his
very
busy
world,
he
might
be
able
to
begin
expanding
the
interaction
of
what
he's
currently
doing
with
the
larger
network.
B
So
I
put
them
in
touch
with
each
other,
as
well
as
with
safe
who's
done
a
really
nice
comparative
study
of
enabled
chapters
around
the
world
and
that
conversation
continues.
But
you
know
safe
and
eric
and
jeff
are
all
of
a
certain
age.
I
would
say
they're
all
in
their
30s
now
they've
been
with
enable
for
quite
some
time.
They
are
all
associated
with
academic
institutions
and
have
linkages
between
their
academic
histories
and
their
academic
associates
and
enabled,
and.
B
B
Capable
organizers
of
successful
and
well-established
enabled
groups
who've
been
good
on
follow-through,
who
are
open
to
the
idea
of
sharing
what
they've
learned
and
sharing
their
newer
vision
with
the
larger
enabled
community.
So
that's
an
ongoing
discussion.
That's
the
update
and
we'll
see
how
it
develops.
C
And
something
to
add
to
this,
I
added
some
links
in
the
notes,
including
the
march,
enable
education
meeting
which
has
eric
bubar
described
as
program,
and
the
updates
and
lindsay
wells
was
also
in
that
presentation
and
she
might
be
a
really
important
part
of
this
educational
network
looking
at
k-12.
So
they
had
a
really
great
synergy
in
the
meeting
and
talked
about
sort
of
the
process
of
students
that
are
active
in
high
school.
C
With
the
enabled
projects
looking
at
college
and
eric
was
basically
saying,
hey,
we
can
set
it
up,
so
they
don't
even
have
to
you
know,
go
through
the
traditional
application
process.
We
can
just
get
them
right
into
this
program,
which
is
great
so
thinking
about
this
network.
I
do
think
keeping
high
schools
in
mind
will
be
really
important,
because
we
about
half
of
the
educational
chapters
are
high
schools.
B
That's
a
good
point
and
of
course,
if
you're
recruiting
undergraduates
to
your
college
being
in
touch
with
high
school
students
who
are
involved
in
enable
could
be
a
synergy.
You
know,
I
I
don't
think
I'm
quite
ready
to
throw
the
trigger
on
this,
but
I
suspect
that
a
dedicated
session
that
involved
all
the
people
we've
just
mentioned,
possibly
including
ian
roy
having
to
do
with
the
future
of
enable
but
bringing
those
people
together
for
a
retrospective
and
a
prospective
discussion,
would
be
a
helpful
way
of
advancing
the
conversation.
B
B
Trouble
with
one's
parent
institution
if
things
aren't
sort
of
coordinated
and
brought
into
sync,
so
one
needs
to
be
very
conscious
of
their
constraints
and
the
trick
is
to
find
a
situation
which
will
enhance
them
in
their
professional
roles
and
benefit
the
enabled
community.
So
this
has
to
be
a
gradual
process,
but
I
think
we're
working
it
through.
C
I'm
linking
in
the
the
student
chapter
networking
event
in
the
notes
you
know
and
just
as
a
reminder
and
a
nod
to
kevin
and
allie.
That
really
was
a
really
successful
event
and
we
did
a
great
job
of
documenting
it.
So
as
we're
as
we're
returning
to
some
of
these
conversations,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
open
that
up
really
quick
jeremy
but.
C
Chapter
networking
event:
okay,
we
did
a
really
good
job
of
documenting
it
and
you
can
see
on
the
side
that
there's
you
know
it's
all
numbered
out
all
the
different
presentations
descriptions,
videos
recordings,
including
eric,
including
lindsay
including
ian.
B
That's
true,
so
you
know
ben
in
the
email
that
I
sent
to
you
into
safe
and
to
jeff
and
to
eric
I
included
a
number
of
links,
but
not
this.
I
think
it
would
be
worth
creating,
maybe
a
space
or
some
document
that
we
keep
adding
to
that
sort
of.
Are
these
big
picture
compilations
of
the
current
state
of
enable
you
know,
I
think
it's
clear
we're
going
through
our
10-year
retrospective
and
prospective,
and
we
do
have
a
number
of
interesting
resources
that
reflect
10
years
of
activity.
A
I
just
want
to
say
real,
quick,
andrew
and
or
ward.
If
you
you
guys,
need
to
be
unmuted,
just
shoot
me
a
text
I
have.
I
have
unmute
disabled
right
now
due
to
our
zoom
bomber.
So
just
let.
A
We
started
when
it
started
because
remember
we
went
public
with
these
videos,
so
now
they
are
public
on
youtube
and
I
think
that
what
I
had
is,
I
probably
had
the
zoom
link
in
the
video
description,
which
I
will
not
do
anymore
it'll
be
on
the
hub,
but
I
will
not
put
it
in
the
youtube
description.
I
think
that's
where
they're
getting
to
it
anyway.
Sorry
for
the
interruption.
Folks
at
least
dixie
did
yeah.
B
You
know
it's
good
to
know
that
our
public
releases
get
some
attention,
yeah
somebody's,
seeing
them.
A
Okay,
so
lots
of
good
discussions
next
steps.
Do
we
have
a
clear
sort
of
path
forward
here
as
far.
B
D
B
Them
in
order
to
see
what
is
emerging
from
the
conversations
and
then
possibly
today's
idea
think
about
organizing
this
roundtable
discussion
with.
A
A
But
he's
he
started,
we
got
him
a
login
to
our
our
help
desk
and
he
started
to
respond
to
tickets
and
we
got
him
trained
on
the
badging
stuff.
So
he's
he's
up
and
running.
There
will
be
questions
well.
D
A
D
A
Anyway,
so
that's
you
know,
some
progress
at
least
have
some
some
help
in
the
works
on
the
help
desk
and
badging.
Like
I
said,
I
think
the
the
one
for
maintaining
the
device,
catalog
pages
might
be
worth
splitting
out.
I'm
just
going
to
insert
row
here
and
say.
A
Go
live
with
new
design
for
enable
device,
catalog
and
add
missing
designs,
and
that's
a
project
that
I
would
say
is
about
medium
size.
So
that's
that's
one
that
I'd
like
to
focus
on
getting
filled
as
soon
as
possible.
A
Okay,
honestly
folks,
I
don't
want
to
really
muddy
the
waters
I
feel
like
this
is
the
most
important
thing
for
us
to
to
focus
on
right
now,
and
I'm
certainly
in
favor
of
giving
some
time
for
these
conversations
to
pan
out.
So
I
don't
feel
the
need
to
move
on
to
any
other
agenda
items
today.
Does
anyone
else
have
anything
you'd
like
to
talk
about.
D
You
know,
let
me
just
make
a
comment
since
I
am
here
yeah
and
I
wrote
up
some
thoughts
and
observations
to
document
everything
you
know
and
in
my
experience
of
enable,
I
think
we
do
a
tremendous
number
of
things
well,
but
I,
I
think
the
summon
substance
of
what
I'm
trying
to
communicate
is
that
a
major
piece
of
our
mission,
I
feel,
is
not
working
part
of
the
model
doesn't
work,
and
that
is
the
individual
volunteer
and,
of
course,
generalizations
are
always
difficult,
but
you
know
large
chapters
work.
Well,
perhaps
small
chapters
work.
D
Well,
I
think
our
educational
mission
is
good.
I
think
r
d
is
progressing,
but
the
individual
volunteer
like
me,
who
decides
at
some
point
to
buy
a
3d
printer,
learn
about
3d
printing
and
then
has
the
expectation
that
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
prosthetics
for
people
and
it's
going
to
work
and
be
the
the
end
all
beat
all
is
going
to
change
their
life.
D
A
I
want
to
ask
you
a
question
on
that
bob.
Are
we
talking
about
two
different
things
here?
Are
we
talking
about
making
devices
remotely
versus
making
devices
as
an
individual,
because
I
got
to
say
just
to
counter
what
you're
saying
I'm
an
individual
volunteer.
I've
never
been
part
of
a
chapter,
but
one
of
my
earliest
experiences
was
making
a
device
for
a
gentleman
in
my
local
community,
jose
which
I
went
on
to
make
six
devices
from
over
a
period
of
you
know,
seven
years.
D
D
C
A
A
I
just
want
to
point
out:
I
think
there
I
think
of
it
in
terms
of
like
a
spectrum
of
of
possibilities,
of
how
we
do
this.
At
one
end
of
the
spectrum,
you
have
an
individual,
making
a
device
remotely
shipping
it
and
hoping
that
it's
going
to
work
at
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum,
you
have
not
only
working
in
person
but
having
medical
professionals
involved
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
proper
fitting
and
a
proper
follow-up,
and
all
that
in
between
those
two
extremes,
there's
a
lot
of
of
middle
earth.
A
D
B
I
think
that's
you're
right,
that
is
a
common
anti-pattern,
as
they
say
it
happens
often
and
it's
not
well,
it's
not
a
good
thing.
Bob.
B
A
It's
a
matter
of
expectation.
I
I
think
there
would
be
a
lot
of
value
in
whenever
we
straighten
out
what
our
front
page
is
right
and
that's
a
project
in
and
of
itself,
because
right
now,
we've
got
enabling
the
future
sitting
there
idle
and
you
know
so,
there's
a
whole
project
in
centralizing.
Our
online
infrastructure
making
people
sure
people
find
their
way
to
the
landing
page.
We
want
them
to
find
which
tells
them
about
enable
right
there
on
the
front.
We
should
have
something
about
setting
proper
expectations.
A
D
A
A
That's
that's
certainly
one
strong
selling
point
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
preempt
our
analysis,
but
that's
a
strong
selling
point
for
the
platform
that
enable
france
put
together
because
it's
entirely
based
upon
manual
matching
by
a
human
being
and
it's
based
on
proximity.
The
very
first
recommendation
is
whoever's
closest
you
know
and
you
can
choose
from
there
based
on
skills,
but
it's
based
around
proximity,
which
maybe
is
a
good
place
to
start.
D
A
C
B
Have
you
had
have
you
had
any
direct
recipient
interactions.
D
I
followed
up
by
phone
a
number
of
times
for
the
ones
that
are
closer,
but
I
have
handled
a
large
number
of
international
ones
and
paid
the
the
fee
to
ship
the
device.
Rarely
do
you
get
a
response.
I
did
have
a
response
early.
I'm
sorry.
B
B
D
B
Yeah,
okay,
so
it's
a
good
point.
Jeremy
points
to
expectations.
You
point
to
the
importance
of
local
I'll
point
out
that
another
half
of
local
would
be.
B
If
you
will,
the
outreach
and
marketing
to
the
community
that
might
have
need,
but
but
you're
right.
It's
a
it's
currently
an
unintentional
bait
and
switch
for
a
lot
of
would-be
volunteers.
I
appreciate
your
calling
it
out
and
your
document
has
already
proven
really
very
helpful.
So
you
know
it's
much
appreciated
andrew
wants
to
say
something
and.
F
Thank
you.
This
isn't
100
related,
but
I
think
it
falls
in
the
same
pool
with
talking
about
single
volunteers,
and
especially
this
came
to
mind
when
the
question
was
asked
how
many
of
your
recipients
bob
have
you
gotten
to
actually
spend
time
with
and
like
it
to
know
in
person
and
with
the
answer
being
zero.
It
makes
me
think
of
a
of
a
book
called
give
and
take
it's
a
lot
about
sociology
of
altruism
and
just
having
a
giving
attitude.
F
Grant
got
it.
Thank
you
super
good
book.
I
really
enjoyed
it.
One
of
the
one
of
the
things
they
tested
was,
which
is
more
important
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
their
experiments
exactly
right.
What
was
giving
students
like
numbers
of
people
that
were
helped
giving
them?
F
You
know
aggregate
statistics
and
trying
to
paint
a
picture
of
like
here's,
how
you
guys
financially
fit
into
this
scholarship
program,
and
then
one
of
their
other
approaches
was
let's
just
bring
in
somebody
whose
life
was
really
changed
by
this
and
have
them
give
a
talk
to
our
volunteers,
who
are
placing
these
calls
and
see
which
group
ends
up
being
able
to
raise
more
money
for
the
organization
and
just
has
a
greater
degree
of
engagement,
and
it
was
an
absolute
blowout.
F
F
I
feel
like
bob's
super
right,
that
having
people
do
this
kind
of
work
remotely.
It's
just
not
going
to
be
a
recipe
for
success,
not
only
because
of
the
logistical
challenges
and
stuff
like
that,
but
because
it's
really
hard
for
people
to
stay
engaged
when
they
can't
directly
see
the
impact
of
the
work
that
they're
doing.
A
I
couldn't
agree
more,
I
just
to
use
the
example
I
gave
before
again
one
of
the
people
I
made
devices
for
this
guy
jose
meeting
with
him
in
person
sitting
down
getting
to
talk
with
him
about
his
experience
of
how
it's
working
compared
to
his
other
myoelectric
device.
That
was
the
most
meaningful
part
to
me,
getting
to
hear
from
a
device
user
who
had
actually
been
using
it
for
a
while
on
a
day-to-day
basis
and
get
that
feedback.
That
really
is
an
important
part
of
the
process.
A
I
think
you
make
a
great
point
bob
that
the
very
design
of
enable
web
central
is
geared
towards
a
self-service
approach
and
it
encourages,
or
at
least
seems
to
encourage
that
kind
of
remote
making.
I
think
that's
a
really
important
consideration
going
forward.
I
don't
want
to
you
know
I
still
don't
want
to
preempt
the
analysis,
but
I'd
say
that's
a
really
good
case
for
folks
on
the
other
platform
which
I'm
fine
with.
If
that's
the
best
for
the
community.
B
Yeah,
you
know
that
to
some
extent
it
was
an
internet
trap.
Google
also
resonated
to
this
notion
of
a
global
database
and
a
whole
matching
system,
and
so
on.
That's
the
vision
of
the
great
global
village,
but
well.
A
B
A
C
Oh
go
ahead.
One
last
thing
I
can
mention
in
the
hub
forum.
I
did
share
a
post
where
people
could
vote
on
their
favorite
videos.
If
you
want
to
take
a
quick
look
at
that,
that's.
A
Oh
yeah,
you
can
share
your
screen,
go
ahead
and
is
this:
what
videos
are
we
talking
about
here?
Favorite
videos
from.
C
These
are
enable
videos,
so
one
of
the
things
I
shared
I
think
a
week
ago,
I'm
just
kind
of
an
overview
of
this
10-year
video
project,
john,
and
I
were
talking
about
trying
to
get
some
some
more
people
to
contribute.
So
we
posted
the
youtube.
I
oh.
C
And
then
I
asked
people
if
they
wanted
to
include
anything
else.
They
could
comment.
So
we
got
a
couple
comments
from
robbie.
C
I'll
add
those
videos
I
added
one
already,
and
then
we
get
people
voting
on
their
favorite
videos.
I'm.
A
Glad
you
brought
this
up
because
I
meant
to
have
this
on
the
agenda,
but
I
I
think
the
fact
that
you've
posted
about
this
a
couple
of
times
is
great.
I
think,
for
this
kind
of
thing,
it's
going
to
be
a
matter
of
of
repeat
again
and
again
and
again
posting,
and
this
is
going
to
have
to
be
kind
of
a
theme
in
the
coming
months.
We're
going
to
have
to
I
think,
post
about
this
and
keep
it
in
front
of
people
and
continue
to
post
fairly.
A
Often
it's
not
the
kind
of
thing
we
want
to
just
put
one
or
two
posts,
and
then
just
you
know,
wait
for
people
to
submit
videos
we're
going
to
need
to
keep
reminding
them.
C
Right,
that's
a
great
point
and
using
the
comments
is
a
way
that
you
can
populate
it
back
to
the
top
of
the
queue.
So
I
did
add
a
comment
for
the
original
post,
which
was
on
the
18th
last
week
asking
people
to
share
adding
some
links.
So
I
guess,
if
we,
if
we
keep
on
editing
these
and
adding
comments,
we
can
see
if
we
can
get
some
some
conversations.
Yeah.
A
A
All
right
folks
leave
it
at
that
have
a
great
week
and
don't
forget
our
monday
chapter
leaders,
meeting
and
again
right
after
this
we're
meeting
with
the
deloitte
team
to
look
at
that
matching
platform
needs
analysis.
So
I
know
ben
is
gonna,
be
joining
me
for
that
john
you're.
Welcome!
If,
if
you're
interested,
the
others
are
too,
but
I
know
you
haven't
been
involved
in
that
much
so.