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A
Talking
specifically
about
that,
I
think
that
could
be
a
whole
separate
discussion.
I
did
not
include
his
specific
points
in
the
agenda,
but
it
does
get
into
the
same
stuff
that
we
were
talking
about
last
week,
we'll
we'll
kind
of
continue
that
discussion
this
week.
A
A
B
Yeah,
you
know,
and
it's
interesting
it
seems
like
we
can
get
these
these
posts
from
people
saying
I'm
looking
for
a
transfumeral
device
and
then
it's
you
know
at
the
same
time
you
get
here's
a
device
and
here's
the
request.
Just
an
interesting
thing.
Going
on
in
the
hub
right
now,.
A
Well,
it's
just
the
three
of
us,
but
I
guess
we'll
get
started
and
hopefully
we'll
be
joined
by
one
or
two
others.
I
guess
we'll
go
through
action
items.
First,
skipping
the
one
for
alexander
masvi.
I
did
set
up
the
spreadsheet.
A
There
is
a
link
here,
so
I
think
I'm
at
a
point
where
I'll
sort
of
ask
you
ben
for
some
help
with
this
in
figuring
out
kind
of
how
we
go
forward
with
this
list
of
of
needs
which,
by
the
way
I've
been
adding
to
I
I
because
I
really
need
help.
You
know
if
somebody
every
week,
I'm
still
updating
these.
These
metrics
that
we
track
here,
which
is
you.
C
A
A
spreadsheet
I'll
show
you
real
quick,
so
just
putting
all
these
these
numbers
in
here
each
week
which
come
from
you
know
mostly
on
metrics
in
the
hub,
but
a
couple
of
other
places
as
well.
I
would
really
like
somebody
to
take
that
over
updating
the
metrics
on
a
weekly
basis
in
the
reporting,
as
well
as
I'm
still
looking
for
somebody
to
help
with
maintaining
the
device
catalog
and
that
wasn't
in
here.
In
fact,
I
was
just
looking
through
my
emails.
A
I
have
there's
probably
five
or
six
designs
that
have
been
submitted
that
haven't
been
added
to
the
catalog
yet,
and
I'm
very
sorry
about
that.
But
it's
just
not
something
that
I've
gotten
to
and-
and
I
don't
have
anybody
else
to
help
with
that
right
now,
so
as
soon
as
we
can
find
somebody
that
can
help
us
maintain
those
catalog
pages,
we
immediately
have
you
know,
half
a
dozen
or
so
designs
that
I'd
love
to
get
in
there.
B
Yeah,
I
wonder
if
part
of
the,
if
you
go
back
to
that
list,
really
quick
part
of
the
process
is
also
going
to
be
looking
at
kind
of
simplifying
some
of
this
stuff.
So
is
it
possible
to
have
weekly
enable
metrics
and
reports
be
automated
in
some
capacity
you
know
having
the
new
members
to
the
hub
automatically
introduced.
Having
that
weekly
report
does
make
it
a
whole
lot
easier,
it
would
be
wonderful,
yeah,.
A
A
So
I
guess
we'll
just
use
this
as
kind
of
our
official
record
of
the
things
we're
looking
for
leadership
in
right
now-
and
you
know
you
guys-
should
have
full
access
to
this,
so
you
can
help
to
you
know,
add
items
as
they
come
up
or
put
in
notes
of
potential
candidates,
etc.
A
So
we
do
have
that
spreadsheet.
I'm
going
to.
I
already
have
the
link
down
below,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
just
cross
this
off
here
from
our
action
items.
I
was
also
to
review
bob's
job
description
that
he
put
together
for
one
of
those
tasks,
which
is
the
matching
platform
analysis
effort,
and
he
did
a
really
great
job.
I
don't
think
I
really
made
any
edits
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I
think
this
is
ready
to
use,
except
for
specifying
I.
A
I
don't
think
that
a
six-month
duration
is
really
realistic.
We
should
talk
more
about
this.
This
is
being
the
analysis
effort
of
just
looking
at
what
we
need
and
what
the
best
platform
is
for
us
to
focus
on
I.
I
would
certainly
hope
that
this
is
a
sort
of
a
more
of
a
one
month,
time
frame
than
a
six-month
time
frame
myself,
but
that's
up
for
discussion.
The
other
thing
is,
we
need
to
talk
dollars.
How
do
we
want
to
present
this
when
we
write
this
up
in
lumio?
A
Do
we
want
to
put
a
proposed
dollar
amount
on
it
and
that's
of
course,
going
to
be
tied
with
the
amount
of
effort
and
time
frame
so
other
than
those
little
final
pieces?
I
think
this
is
is
ready
to
use
and
ready
to
share
on.
I
guess
lumio.
If
that's
the
path
we
go
to
try
to
see
if
this
is,
if
we
can
get,
this
need
filled,
at
least
so.
A
This
came
up
before
that.
This
is
just
specifically.
The
role
of
this
is
a
act
not
actually
a
role.
This
is
a
project.
This
is
a
with
a
defined
start
and
end.
This
is
somebody
to
help
us
decide
what
is
the
best
way
of
addressing
the
needs
of
the
community
with
regards
to
matching,
so
we
have
enable
web
central.
We
have
this
platform
that
was
shared
with
us
from
our
friends
in
france,
which
is
based
on
wordpress
and
php,
and
I
suppose
there
are
other
options.
A
Maybe
spreadsheets
I
don't
know,
but
those
are
the
two
sort
of
real
platforms
that
we
have
to
look
at
and
we
really
just
need
somebody
to
kind
of
analyze
for
us.
How
do
those
work?
What
features
and
functionality
does
each
offer?
How
difficult
is
each
one
to
maintain?
What
sort
of
skill
sets
are
needed?
What's
the
best
fit
for
us
to,
you
know
continue
to
put
energy
in
as
a
community.
I
guess
so
that's
what
this
specific,
not
to
do
the
changes
not
to
do
any
programming
work.
This
is
just
the
needs
analysis.
B
What
what
do
you
guys
think
about
reaching
out
to
deloitte?
They
did
a
lot
of
work
in
the
past
about
this
similar
kind
of
stuff
with
design
stuff,
but
I
wonder
if
we
could
send
out
a
flare
their
way.
It's.
A
A
possibility
I
mean
it
would
have
it
would.
You
know
we've
only
really
engaged
directly
with
their
ux
team.
I
think
in
the
past,
with
you
know,
user
interface
design
and
I
this
would
fall
outside
of
that
they
would
need
to
bring
in
people
that
have
an
understanding
of
the
underlying
platforms
and
what's
involved
in
maintaining
them,
and
that
sort
of
thing
no
doubt
they
have
those
people
whether
they'd
be
available
to
help
with
a
project
like
this
is
something
we
have
to
ask.
A
B
I
mean
I
could
it'd
be
fine
for
me
to
send
a
quick
email
and
just
link
this
in
and
say
thanks
so
much
for
your
help
in
the
past.
What
do
you
think
about
this.
A
Are
we
thinking
you
want
to
reach
out
to
ed
about
that?
Is
that
who
you're
thinking
yeah
yeah,
if
you,
if
you
have
the
time
to
help
with
that
ben
that
would
be
greatly
appreciated,
maybe
send
him
a
link
to
that
part
of
the
video
and
we'll
see
what
he
says
great.
I
would
love
to
have
their
help.
It's,
I
think,
just
a
matter
of
a
question
of
availability
and,
let's
see.
C
I
I
feel,
like
I
had
an
exchange
with
bob
about
this
or
about
something
else
where
we
agreed
that,
given
the
sort
of
structural
issues
that
we're
dealing
with
right
now,
it
might
be
premature
to
be
bringing
an
analyst
in
to
try
to
assess
needs.
We
don't
know,
for
example,
whether
these
are
needs
for
enable
us
or
enable
europe,
or
you
know,
who's,
going
to
take
responsibility
for
the
global
network,
etc.
So
do
we
want
to
pull
the
trigger
on
this,
or
do
we
want
to
see
what
comes
from
our
global
introspective
process?.
A
We
can
go
either
way.
All
I
can
tell
you
is
enable
web
central
has
been
in
a
literal
holding
pattern
for
over
a
year.
Now
we
have
not
done
any
kind
of
work
on
it,
though
there's
a
lot
of
work.
That
would
need
to
be
done
if
we're
going
to
continue
with
it.
I
have
one
developer
left
from
the
team
who
continues
as
the
lead
volunteer,
but
he
has
received
really
no
direction
or
communication.
I
keep
kind
of
telling
him
I
need
more
time.
I
need
more
time.
A
There
will
come
a
point
where
we
we
lose
that
team
entirely.
So
I'm
not
saying
that.
I
think
we
should
do
it
now,
but
you
know
it
might
be,
but.
A
Yeah,
you
know,
if
let
me
say
it
this
way,
if
we,
if
we
hold
off
you,
know
another
six
months,
then
do
the
analysis
and
it's
decided
that
you
know
there
really
is
a
lot
of
value
and
what's
been
developed
here
in
enable
web
central.
We
want
to
work
on
that.
I
might
find
myself
in
a
position
where
we
don't
have
anybody
left
to
do
that
work.
So
that's
the
only
consideration.
A
C
C
But
we've
talked
about
the
possibility
that
the
french
system
would
become
the
norm
and
potentially
that
others
I'm
going
to
phone
in.
I
see
that
my
internet
connection
is
unstable
and
the
possibility
that
other
groups
would
take
responsibility
for
the
matching
process.
A
A
I
don't
know
I
mean,
does
anybody
else,
andrew
or
ben?
You
guys
have
any
thoughts.
I
mean
I
guess
waiting
is
always
an
option.
Is
there
a
good
reason
to
not
look
for
somebody
to
do
this
analysis
right
now,.
B
You
know
one
thing
that
we
could
start
with
is
to
ask
your
one
volunteer,
who
hasn't
had
direction
in
a
while
to
summarize.
B
C
At
this
now-
and
I
do
see
that
it
references
the
enable
france
system-
and
it
says
the
purpose-
is
to
research
and
analyze
these
and
other
potential
apps
and
procedures
with
the
goal
of
recommending
the
best
approach.
So
I
don't
see
a
reason
to
hesitate.
I
think
it
would
be
useful
information
and
that
it's
not
just
about
enable
web
central.
It
also
allows
us
to
say:
should
it
be
enabled
central?
Should
it
be
the
print
system?
Should
it
be
something
else
right,
yeah
and
having
a
third
party
looking
into?
A
A
To
what
ben
was
saying,
I
think
the
most
of
those
details
exist
already,
because
we
previously
wrote
up
a
job
description
for
volunteer
match,
for
you
know,
that's
how
we
found
our
current
developer,
and
so
I
have
a
pretty
good
description
as
far
as
the
architecture
of
the
application
and
the
skill
sets
involved.
Now,
there's
been
some
changes
just
hosted
on
azure
now,
but
that
doesn't
change
a
whole
lot.
A
I
mean
other
than
the
way
it's
hosted
that
that
basic
description
still
probably
applies
pretty
well,
so
I
mean
I
could
ask
our
volunteer.
Neil
to
you
know,
maybe
write
up
a
little
high-level
summary
of
how
it's
hosted
now
to
go
with
that,
but
I
think
I
can
get
you
most
of
it.
I.
A
So
we
have
a
really
good
description,
except
that
I
would
have
to
add
in
details.
At
the
same
time,
I
have
to
say
I
mean
other
than
being
aware
of
the
type
of
application
it
is.
That
is
that
it's
a
microsoft,
you
know
mvc
app
and
we
can
explain
what
that
means.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
get
too
much
into
the
architecture
details
for
this,
because
all
they
really
need
to
be
looking
at.
Is
you
know?
What
can
the
system
do?
How
does
it
operate
and
you
know
how?
A
How
generally
how
difficult
is
it
to
you
know
to
maintain
right
once
we?
If
we
were
to
decide
to
go
forward
with
enable
web
central,
then
we
need
to
start
doing
work
on
it?
That's
where
we
need
that
real
detail,
because
then
we
need
a
developer.
Who
can
actually
do
the
work,
but
for
right
now
there
is,
I
think,
a
pretty
decent
description
in
here
of
the
systems
and
what
we're
looking
for.
So
we
could
put
this
up
on
lumio
as
a
discussion.
A
The
question
is:
do
we
kind
of
go
forward
as
is
get
the
discussion
going
on
lumio
leave?
It
without
a
set
duration
and
dollar
amount,
and
let
that
emerge
through
the
discussion
in
lumio
or
do
we
try
to
come
up
with
something
now
as
a
starting
point?
What
do
you
guys
think
about
how
to
move
forward
with
this.
B
I
was
just
going
to
say
really
quick
before
john
johnson
that
linking
in
that
you
said
you
have
a
description,
a
job
description
that
you
put
together
linking
that
in
would
be
great,
and-
and
I
guess
you
know,
I
wonder
if
it's
worthwhile-
to
reach
out
to
enable
friends
to
see
if
they
have
something
similar,
because
right
now
they
sent
you
something
that
you
could
copy,
but
they
also
just
did
this
whole
project
update,
so
they
might
have
something
that
compares
you
know
the
new
features
with
what
they
initially
had.
A
Yeah,
are
you
in
contact
with
them?
Do
you
want
to
see
if
they
have
any?
If
maybe,
if
they
have
an
updated
version,
they
want
to
share
with
us
or
see
at
least
what's
different.
A
A
A
That's
a
fair
point,
so
maybe
we
explore
that
first
and
then
there's
always
the
possibility
of
you
know,
given
that
this
is
sort
of
an
analysis
effort,
not
necessarily
a
huge
project,
depending
on
how
we
approach
it,
it's
even
possible
that
we
could
try
to
get
somebody
to
take
this
on,
for
you
know
something
under
a
thousand
dollars
so
that
we
could
approve
it
here.
A
It
was
pretty
funny
how
do
we
clear
transcripts
or
annotations?
Let's
see.
A
A
Okay,
I
did
report.
Let's
get
my
participants
panel
up
here:
okay,
let's
see
wow
enable
waiting
room
just
for
today,
okay,
just
looking
for
where
you
clear
these
oh
they're,
annotate,
yeah,
he's
in
the
waiting
room,
sorry
clear.
A
A
No,
I
meant
his
camera
type
video
yeah
anyway,
let's
see
so
ben
you're
gonna
reach
out
to
deloitte
see
if
they
might
be
in
a
position
to
help
us
with
this
we'll
revisit
it
next
week,
see
where
that
goes,
and
if
not,
maybe
it's
something
that
we
can
find
somebody
that
would
take
it
on
for
a
small
enough
amount
that
we
could
approve
it
here
and
then
our
fallback
after
those
would
be
lumia
sound,
good.
A
She
filled
up
our
chat
too,
all
right.
What
else
do
we
have
here?
So
that
was
the
job
description.
So
as
far
as
my
task
of
reviewing
it
that's
done
and
then
write
up
a
lumia
discussion
thread,
that's
gonna
be
potentially
later
so
I'll.
Just
leave
that
on
here.
We're
gonna
explore
this,
and
I
guess
I
should
add
in
here
ask
deloitte.
A
Okay
ben
speak
with
kyle
about
that
potential.
Flash
forward
partnership
any
further
discussion
there.
B
Yeah,
I
think
we
had
a
couple
different
ideas
that
went
from
different
directions.
One
being
you
know,
looking
at
some
reality
collaborations
john,
what
were
the
next
steps
for
flash
forge.
B
Yeah
there
was
sort
of
this
idea
of
you
know,
having
some
small
funded
projects
and
seeing
if
having
flash
forwards
be
interested
in
the
partnership
would
motivate
creality
to
connecting
the
dots.
B
But
I
think
the
the
question
of
what
would
be
a
worthy
collaboration
is
still
out
there
and
kyle.
You
know
in
talking
to
kyle.
It
does
sound
like
having
a
clear
game
plan
is
something
that
it
takes
some
time
to
come
together.
B
You
know
they
had
interest,
not
just
in
bringing
bringing
printers,
but
also
into
some
small
funding.
For
some
trips
we
looked
at
the
dominican
republic
as
as
a
potential
place.
That
would
really
that
could
make
a
huge
difference
to
have
some
printers
for
the
center
that
they're
building
down
there,
but
also
some
small
funds.
To
finish
the
you
know
the
center
that
they're
building
and
they've
got
a
bus,
they're
thinking
about
making
into
a
mobile
clinic.
B
B
B
I
think
we're
waiting
to
connect
with
eric
bubar
he's
going
to
be
the
key
player
in
giving
us.
I
I
think
some
insight
into
how
internships
could
work,
not
just
at
maramon
police.
B
C
C
C
So
you
want
to
give
me
some
time
constraints
or
I'll
follow
up
separately.
But,
yes,
I
will
take
the
lead
on
getting
that
meeting.
A
A
We
go,
don't
have
any
guest
presentations
all
right.
Let's
take
a
look
at
our
metrics.
I
don't
think
there
was
anything
unusual.
No
new
chapters
funds
remain
the
same
just
about
50
grand
in
our
enable
fund,
which
I
would
certainly
like
to
see
us
make
good
use
of
activity
levels
pretty
pretty
typical.
A
So
let's
look
at
our
posts
of
the
week,
so
jack
buchanan
couple
of
posts,
one
with
a
very
cool
video
about
a
new
wrist
design
and
then
also
a
post
about
two
new
versions
of
the
kwahu
armor
released
on
thingiverse,
which
incorporate
that.
So,
let's
take
a
look
at
this
video.
This
is
worth
seeing.
It's
only
a
two
minute.
Video.
If
you
don't
mind,
I
want
to
play
this
for
us
here.
A
A
Okay,
maybe
not
I
don't
know,
what's
up
with
my
internet
today,
it's
flushed
it's
sort
of
carved
by
the
code
out
of
the
hand
itself.
This.
A
With
a
new
arm
design
that
sort
of
has
a
flexible
plastic
design,
lots
of
things
I'll
talk
about,
but
the
wrist
does
scale
so
there's
this
is
sort
of
a
child's
size.
Compared
to
my
hand,
this
is
a
larger
version
where
I'm
just
just
showing
you.
This
would
be
the
hand-
and
this
is
the
spring
piece
and
you
can
see
the
spring
is
built
into
the
print
right.
A
So
this
is
all
one
piece
and
it
fits
in
there
and
and
then
it
has
its
own
sort
of
spring
built
in
and
then
the
wrist
bolt
right
would
come
in
through
the
palm
and.
A
A
That
would
be
great.
He
shared
his
two
thingy
verse
links
here.
One
of
these
is
a
socket
version,
looks
really
beautiful,
as
you
can
see
there
and
the
other
one
is
a
wrap
version.
It
looks
like
leather
to
me
he's
using
that,
but
beautiful,
looking
designs,
and
I
would
that's
a
great
idea.
Ben
do
you?
Are
you
still
with
us
you
mind
reaching
out
to
jack
to
see
if
we
might
be
able
to?
B
Yeah,
we
could
even
look
at
getting
a
presentation
in
may,
for
I'm
trying
to
think
what
which
community
meeting
would
be
the
best
a
focused
follow-up,
it
could
be,
could
be
yeah
or
we
can
just
have
them.
You
know
come
into
the
town
hall
meeting.
Whatever
you
guys
think
would
be
great.
A
B
Could
be
both
it
could
be.
You
could
come
to
do
a
town
hall
meeting
and
then,
through
that
meeting
we
figure
out
what
would
be.
You
know
a
helpful
way
for
sort
of
a
workshop
on
his
end.
A
A
A
We
also
had
a
post
from
joshua
trebinsky,
who
is
seeking
a
device,
or
at
least
a
recommendation,
for
what
design
might
work
for
this
individual
with
more
challenging
anatomy,
and
the
very
I
thought
it
was
interesting.
The
very
first
recommendation
was
the
kinetic
hand,
which
does
have
a
version
without
the
thumb
and
then
customized
scaling,
and
they
have
good
instructions,
for
you
know
non-uniform
scaling
for
xyz
scaling.
So
I
thought
that
was
a
really
good
recommendation.
A
Just
looking
at
this,
with
the
the
kind
of
cut
out
version
where
the
the
thumb
is
missing,
that
that
seems
like
it
might
fit
over
the
part
of
the
anatomy.
That's
that's
extending
out
there,
where
the,
where
the
thumb
is
so
it
seems
like
a
good
recommendation
to
me.
I
you
know
we'd
have
to
you
know
it's
kind
of
thing
you
have
to
try.
A
Alexander
commented
on
this.
That
padding
can
be
used
to
help
ensure
comfort,
etc,
but
yeah,
okay,.
A
He's
recommending
being
careful
with
the
non-uniform
scaling,
because
otherwise
things
start
to
lose
their
shapes.
D
A
Okay,
let
me
go
john
grundy.
We
got
a
teacher
here
who
is
interested
in
starting
a
chapter.
Let's
see
he's
teaching
chemistry,
physics
and
engineering
in
all
girls,
high
school
in
san
luis
they're,
already
using
3d
printers
they're
very
excited
about
the
prospects
of
starting
a
chapter,
and
this
just
caught
my
attention.
I
added
it
here
for
discussions
because
it
kind
of
ties
in
with
some
stuff
that
we
were
talking
about
before
and
some
points
that
bob
had
brought
up
about.
A
Like
okay,
they're
going
to
start
a
chapter,
these
girls
are
all
excited.
They
got
their
3d
printers
they're
ready
to
help
people
what's
going
to
happen
next
they're
going
to
come
to
us
and
say:
okay,
we're
ready.
How
do
we
find
recipients
and
we're
going
to
find
ourselves
in
the
same
situation
that
we
so
often
do?
There
was
another
teacher
then
down
here
that
commented
that
she
also
teaches
in
all
girls
school,
but
they
don't
have
3d
printers
and
they're,
not
really
sure
how
to
get
started.
A
They
love
the
idea
of
of
doing
a
chapter,
but
they
don't
really
know
where
to
go,
and
these
both
kind
of
got
me
thinking
about
you
know.
We've
talked
before
about
there
being
so
many
other
ways
that
people
can
help
other
than
just
3d
printing
devices
and
and
since
we've
we've
seen
pretty
clearly
now
that
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
value
in
people,
just
printing,
more
devices
and
generic
scales,
you
know
not
making
them
for
specific
people,
those
don't
often
get
used.
A
I
just
wanted
to
bring
this
up
as
an
opportunity
to
again
talk
about
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
to.
I
don't
know,
give
maybe
better
direction
to
specifically
schools
like
this
looking
to
form
chapters
and
giving
them
more
ways
that
their
students
can
actively
participate
other
than
just
printing
and
assembling
devices.
A
We've
talked
about
some
of
these
in
terms
of
some
of
the
types
of
testing
they
can
do.
Maybe
to
help
us
gather
data
about
our
designs.
Maybe
research
initiatives,
maybe
r
d
things-
I
you
know
I
I
don't
know
I
just
wanted
to.
I
thought
this
was
worth
bringing
up
because
it
was
two
different
teachers
looking
to
get
something
going.
C
C
It
allows
people
to
do
the
printing
and
the
building,
but
then
it
allows
them
to
do
some
systematic
quantitative
work,
characterizing
a
material
project,
so
it
becomes
sort
of
a
more
engineering
oriented
thing,
but
still
enable
and
hand
focused.
So
I
would.
I
would
indeed
point
them
that
way.
I
can
find
skip's
device,
but
there
are
other.
A
Well,
not
only
the
device
but
there's
work
involved
in
just
defining
the
approach,
even
because
now
that
you
describe
that
it
occurs
to
me,
there's
a
number
of
variables
other
than
the
testing
device
itself.
What
material
are
you
printing
in
you
know,
compare
how
pla
performs
versus
pet
g
versus
other
materials
different
designs,
how
one
hand
design
compares
to
another
design
different
scales?
A
How
does
the
scaling
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
different
variables
that
can
be
explored
to
see
how
that
changes
things
so
yeah,
that's,
definitely
and
then
taking
that
exact
same
thing
and
applying
it
to
like
usability
testing.
You
know
eric
bubar
created
a
a
test.
You
know
just
the
block
test.
You
know
moving
blocks
from
one
side
of
a
divider
to
another
to
see
how
effectively
a
device
performs
and
what
you
can
achieve
in
a
period
of
time.
A
That's
another
type
of
testing,
that's
always
very
interesting
and
yeah,
but
I
think
for
us
to
for
us
to
really
forgive
the
pun,
enable
these
teachers
to
get
something
going
more
easily.
So
I
think
somebody
needs
to
kind
of
lay
that
out-
and
you
know
these
are
the
things
that
it
would
be
really
helpful
to
have.
Somebody
look
at
and
here's
some
resources
that
you
might
find
useful
to
get
started
with
that
and
kind
of
help,
help
point
them
in
the
right
direction
of
how
they
might
contribute
in
those
ways.
A
C
You
know
I'm
I'm
writing
my
note
to
eric
right
now
and
he
may
well
have
done
some
things
along
these
lines.
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
topics
that
we
can
explore
with
eric.
First,
as
our.
C
B
There's
a
number
of
schools
that
are
doing
similar,
stuff,
ashish
and
the
university
of
southern
maine.
I
think
his
background
is
in
material
science,
he's
doing
a
lot
of
testing
of
materials
with
lower
limbs
and
similar
to
what
you
were
talking
about
that
skip
made.
B
They've
got
some,
I
think,
professional
machines
that
are
basically
designed
to
break
your
devices
and
test
the
strength
of
the
design.
So
you
know
it
might
be
a
coalition
of
universities
or
or
some
key
point,
people
that
put
that
together
that
put
those
sort
of
guidelines
together
to
inspire
other
universities
and
high
schools
to
you
know,
fill
in
the
gaps
between
some
of
the
things
that
they're
looking
for.
A
Okay,
so
we'll
leave
those
for
a
future
discussion
if
ben,
if
you
have
a
chance,
maybe
share
a
link
to
this
part
of
the
video
on
that
thread
so
that
they
have
some
sense
of
options
other
than
just
making
devices
sure,
okay,
so
upcoming
meetings,
we've
got
the
bionic
design
group
meeting
today
and
then
the
education
meetup
on
monday
and
I'll
just
pull
up
the
full
list
of
april
events
here
ben.
If
you
want
to
share
anything
you'd
like
here.
B
Sure
so
we've
got
the
bionx
design
group
today
with
skip
and
john
talking
about
the
moto,
gripper
and
and
really
looking
at
the
value
of
low-tech
devices
as
kind
of
an
overarching
theme
monday.
We
have
enable
education
with
jeff
powell
and
he's
going
to
talk
about
his
network
with
four
universities
working
together
supporting
family
events
and
follow-up,
which
is,
I
think,
been
something
that
other
chapters
have
struggled
with.
So
that
could
be
a
really
great
opportunity
for
chapters
to
learn
a
little
bit
about
that.
B
The
following
monday
is
the
chapter
leaders.
Meeting
john
is
going
to
be
hosting
a
discussion
about
the
current
situation
in
europe
and
he's
gotten
some
feedback
from
several
chapters
and
italy
and
the
czech
republic
and
other
places
anything
you
want
to
add
to
that.
John.
C
I'll
just
say
that
europe
is
shorthand
for
europe
and
the
ukraine
situation.
A
lot
of
chapters
have
agreed
that
they're
all
sort
of
wondering
about
this.
A
few
are
involved
in
potential
in
activities
but
haven't
seen
the
demand.
Yet.
C
I
suspect
that
fresh
amputations
are
not
candidates
for
prosthetics,
but
that
the
demand
is
going
to
be
emerging,
and
so
this
will
be
a
first
conversation
with
european
chapter
leaders
about
a
possible
role
of
for
a
naval
in
europe
and
just
for
them
to
update
us
on
how
they
are
finding
their
brave
new
world.
Yeah.
A
All
right
look
forward
to
learning
more,
oh
and
then
I'm
giving
a
presentation
at
the
new
member
meetup
about
the
needs.
We're
looking
for
help
with
so
and
that'll.
Be
that,
following
friday,.
B
And
then
the
final
session
that
we
have
scheduled
currently
is
eric
and
matteo
of
paraguay
have
some
updates
related
to
their
lower
limb
designs.
So
they're
going
to
present
materials
considerations,
services
and
partnerships
involved
with
supporting
device
users
using
lower
limb
devices
I'll
have
to
follow
up
with
them.
It'll,
probably
be
in
spanish,
with
captions.
A
Awesome:
okay,
lots
of
good
stuff
all
right.
So
then,
as
far
as
discussion
topics,
I
didn't
really
change
much
on
the
agenda
here,
because
last
week
we
were
engaged
in
a
kind
of
a
big
picture,
discussion
of
just
kind
of
where
we're
at
as
a
community
on
our
10-year
sort
of
anniversary
year.
A
Here
we've
talked
about
some
changes
happening
with
regards
to
some
of
us
having
less
availability
than
we
used
to
a
couple
of
us
sort
of
retiring
from
the
mix
and
just
looking
at
sort
of
how
we
move
forward-
and
I
just
wanted
to
continue
that
discussion
here,
just
as
kind
of
a
reminder
or
or
an
update
for
those
that
weren't
part
of
that.
One
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
is
that
things
in
the
us
here
are
a
little
bit
different.
A
We're
not
saying
there's
anything
wrong
with
the
enable
community
as
a
whole
here
that
we
have
regions
that
are
are
just
doing
wonderfully
because
they've
taken
a
different
approach.
You
know
they
have
well-established
chapters
that
kind
of
manage
things
in
a
centralized
manner.
They
have
some
structure
that
can
help
them
to
you
know,
keep
things
better
organized
here.
A
We
have
taken
a
more
ad
hoc
approach
to
sort
of
being
hands
off
and
saying
everybody
is
just
gonna
kind
of
be
on
their
own
and
do
as
they
please
and
we'll
offer
whatever
guidance
we
can,
but
we
don't
really
have
any
kind
of
an
organization
here
in
the
u.s
that
is
overseeing
everything,
we're
tying
everything
together.
It's
a
bunch
of
entirely
sort
of
independent
chapters
and
volunteers
and
the
the
what
has
served
as
a
central
organization.
Really
is
this
body
right
here?
A
Now
we
have
a
challenge
because
we
were
dependent
on
these
individuals.
So
that's
the
discussion
we're
having.
How
do
we
go
forward?
How
do
we,
you
know
either
replace
ourselves
in
some
of
these
responsibilities
or
even
change?
How
we're
doing
things
so
that
we
don't
have
to
have
individuals
managing
some
of
these
things
that
we've
been
doing
I'll,
just
leave
it
at
that
for
now
and
open
it
back
up
for
discussion,
I
saw
john.
You
had
your
hand
up.
C
C
A
Well,
I
mean
one
thing
is
clear:
we
need,
we
need
fresh
leadership.
I
think
here,
regardless
of
you,
know,
bigger
discussions
about
organization
and-
and
you
know
the
the
form
that
that
our
sort
of
organizational
oversight
takes,
that
that
might
be
a
another
discussion,
but
we
we
need
help.
A
So
it's
a
challenge,
that's
always
a
challenge
with
volunteer
communities.
But
right
now
we
find
ourselves
in
a
position
where
there
are
a
number
of,
I
think,
sort
of
key
roles
that
are,
you
know,
sort
of
unattended
left
unattended
right
now
and
just
I
I
think
we
need.
We
need
people
that
are
looking
to
do
something
other
than
3d
print
and
assemble
devices
who
want
to
have
an
impact
in
other
ways.
C
Of
all
trades
staff
person
a
servant
leader
who
does
all
of
the
things
that
we've
been
piecing
together
from
volunteer,
but
someone
who's
actually
paid
to
to
do
all
those
things
and
to
organize
all
of
those
things
I
don't
know
you
know.
One
of
the
functions
of
these
group
meetings
has
has
been
to
coordinate
this
loose
collection
of
volunteers
and
to
talk
about
initiatives
and
things
etc,
but
the
the
routine
activities,
the
ones
that
ben
has
put
into
place,
the
ones
that
jeremy
has
been
doing
and
so
on.
C
They
could
be
rolled
into
a
simple
full-time
position:
rochester
for
example,
eventually
or
or
I
I
created
the
rochester
cycling
alliance
and
we
eventually
hired
a
full-time,
rochester,
cycling
coordinator,
the
coordinator,
the
organization
still
meets,
but
you've
got
someone
doing
all
of
the
recurring
tasks
to
keep
the
organization
puttering
along.
C
B
I
was
going
to
mention,
I
feel
like
there
are
people
that
have
chapters
that
have
paid
positions
in
the
u.s.
B
It
seems
like,
instead
of
trying
to
create
a
new
sort
of
organization
around
a
volunteer
group,
it
might
be
worth
finding
one
of
these
very
established
chapters
in
the
u.s
and
and
seeing
how
some
of
the
things
that
that
we've
been
piloting
could
be
embraced
as
as
part
of
their
mission.
You
know,
and
we've
talked
about
meetings
with
eric,
I
think,
are
going
to
be
coming
up,
but.
C
A
Well,
I
I
was
thinking
of
similar
lines,
but
another
option
is
we
form
a
new
chapter?
You
know
specifically
for
this
purpose
that
this
would
be
sort
of
a
a
support
chapter
not
involved
in
making
devices
but
involved
in
helping
with
administering
the
hub
and
our
online
infrastructure
and
eventually
might
be
able.
You
know
we
talked
about
these
other
things
that
like
well,
us
maybe
doesn't
need
to
focus
so
much
on
making
devices.
Maybe
the
focus
is
more
on
r
d
or
platforms
that
could
support
the
overall
global
community.
A
This
kind
of
a
support
chapter
might
be
an
umbrella
where
maybe
the
first
paid
role
is
an
admin.
Maybe
the
second
one,
though,
is
somebody
to
help
lead
r
d.
Maybe
there's
somebody
to
help
with
you
know:
development
and
those
could
be
sort
of
paid
roles
funded
through
this
chapter,
and
I'm
I'm
just
thinking
that
that
could
be
handled
through
our
existing
framework.
Where
now
there's
this
chapter,
that
chapter
writes
up
a
proposal
on
lumio
to
say
this
is
what
we
want
to
do
next,
and
this
is
what
we're
requesting
from
the
enable
fund.
A
B
C
Adding
it,
and
ideally
it
would
be
a
chapter-
that's
already
that
already
knows
the
ropes.
I
think
ben
is
right
that
there
are,
there
are
chapters
with
the
years
of
experience,
running
a
successful
chapter
that
and
developing
a
succession
plan
for
future
chapters.
C
B
And
there
could
be
some
bridging
I
mean
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be.
You
know,
like
john
said
it
doesn't
have
to
be
saying
you
know:
hey
we've
got
all
these
things
that
we
need
you
to
do.
It
could
be
something
where
there
is
sort
of
a
pilot
of
co-sponsoring
a
new
position
underneath
their
umbrella.
That
has
this
sort
of
wider
scope
of
kind
of
a
u.s
coordinated.
C
C
We
have,
we
have
jeff
powell
doing
a
presentation
soon.
B
It's
focused
on
the
the
network
of
four
universities
that
he's
brought
together
and
and
how
he's
sort
of
used
that
cross
university
network
to
support
follow-up
and
family
events.
C
B
Well-
and
that's
that's
statewide,
so
he's
looking
at
north
carolina,
I
think
it
would
be
really
interesting
to
you
know
see.
Maybe
in
that
call.
If,
prior
to
that
presentation,
we
can
try
to
collect
other
partnerships.
B
There's
there's
that
one
group
in
ohio.
I
think
that
has
also
worked
with
jeff
powell,
a
little
bit.
There's
there's
a
couple
other
instances
of
u.s
cross
university
collaborations.
B
They
it
seems
like
there's
a
trend
of
having
it
be
kind
of
within
a
state
or
a
state
education
system.
I
do
feel
like
if
we
take
a
step
back
and
look
at
our
networks,
we've
got
more
than
half.
I
think
of
our
chapters
are
high
schools
or
universities.
B
So
if,
if
we
use
that
as
kind
of
the
scaffolding
for
this,
we
could
have
one
university
tasked
to
one
university
chapter
tasked
with
managing
all
of
the
educational
chapters
and
informing
the
other
chapters
of
initiatives
and
priorities
and
challenges-
and
there
could
be
one
university
like
you
know,
like
jeremy-
was
mentioning
before
about
the
testing.
You
know
you
could
have
a
couple
universities
that
raise
their
hand
and
say
we
want
to
do
testing,
and
then
you
could
have
a
couple
universities.
B
That
say
we
want
to
do
follow-up
and
we
have
a
couple
universities.
You
could
have
these
initiatives
that
plug
into
sort
of
a
larger
plan,
but
I
do
wonder
you
know
eric
bubar
with
his
new
program
having
him
join
that
education
meeting
if
it's
possible
with
jeff
powell
right
there
you've
got.
You
know
a
beginning.
B
C
A
C
B
B
Okay,
you
know
it
could
be
something
too.
I
think,
instead
of
reaching
out
to
people
and
saying
you
know,
we'd
like
you
to
carry
the
flag,
I
think
if
we
maybe
invite
people
to
some
of
these
meetings
coming
up
and
say
we're
going
to
be
discussing
this,
we
are
looking
at
creating
a
larger
network.
Can
you
join
and
then
you
know
the
presentations
are
only
supposed
to
be
the
first
10
to
15
minutes.
So
as
as
a
starting
point,
that
would
be
a
great
topic.
What
you
know
just
to
brainstorm.
B
I
know
we're
running
out
of
time.
Other
chapters
you
know
who
are
the
key
chapters
that
we
want
to
pull
into
this.
I
think
we
are
a
little
bit
out
of
the
loop
in
terms
of
active
chapters.
We've
been
talking
for
a
long
time
about
doing
the
chapter
management
system
on
the
hub.
I
don't
know
who's
active.
C
The
ones
that
come
to
mind
are
jeff
powell's
collection
and
hand
prints.
You
know
I'm
just
in
scotland,
I'm
just
thinking
about
these
university
chapter
active
university
chapters.
Those,
I
think,
are
the
two
sophisticated.
C
C
B
Well,
and
maybe
like
what
john
did
for
the
europe
chapter,
sending
out
an
email
and
then
getting
a
bunch
of
direct
feedback,
and
then
people
are
interested
and
know
about
what's
going
on,
maybe
it's
it's
overdue
to
also
do
that
with
the
education
chapter.
Now
again,
that's
that's
just
in
a
couple
days,
so
I
don't
know
who's
going
to
be
able
to
jump
in,
but
maybe
I'll
try
to
send
out
that
email
today
or
over
the
weekend
to
see
if
people
would
want
to
join.
A
Guys
now
that
I
know
that
this
is
actually
nate
monroe,
I
can
change
the
settings
here
and
allow
him
to.
A
D
B
D
Okay,
that
was
a
sneak
peek.
I
don't
have
it
linked
up,
yet
I've
got
the
thingiverse
pages
made,
but
they
aren't
linked
together.
I'm
just
I'm
in
the
middle
of
writing
a
parenting
bill
for
colorado,
with
my
medicare
for
all
in
it
and
stuff.
So,
like
I've,
been
I'm
in
deep
with
this
other
process.
That
is
huge
in
scope
so
and
it's
important
because
they're
killing
the
parents
I
mean
they're,
I
busted
them
straight
up,
attempted
murder
on
two
parents.
D
So,
like
it's
really
serious,
it's
exactly
what
I
said
it
was,
and
I'm
trying
to
get
medicare
for
all
for
everybody
as
a
bonus
and
not
let
them
kill
kids.
So
I'm
doing
that.
It's
very
important
also
to
do
this
stuff,
but
I
do
have
that
prayer
arm,
which
I
think
is
probably
the
biggest
contribution
we've
made
so
far
this
year.
D
It
is
an
adaptation
to
the
kwawu
tr
forearm,
the
thermoformed
version,
and
it's
wider
at
the
wrist
to
allow
a
non-functional
wrist
all
the
way
through
into
the
palm,
and
then
it
can
work
modularly
with
either
the
arcs
hand.
If
you
need
a
full
prosthetic
hand
or
if
you
need
to
extend
your
palm
down
into
the
palm
area,
you
can
use
a
prayer
hand,
which
is
a
hollow
palm
design
and
either
one
uses
the
arcs
fingers.
D
So
you'll
always
have
silicone
grips
on
the
palm
and
the
fingertips
and
the
rotating
thumb.
If
you
have
your
natural
rotating
thumb
or
the
arcs
version
that
can
rotate,
then
so
you
can
still
do
the
prayer
greeting.
It
has
the
more
mechanical
armored
look
on
the
back
of
the
palm,
but
that's
a
cosmetic
part
that
we're
working
to
make
another
one
for
so
it
has
a
natural
look.
Then
too
the
wrist
already
looks
very
natural.
So
it's
close
to
that.
D
I
I
did
notice
that
jack
has
updated
the
kwawu
3.0
this
week.
So
I
need
to
go
look
at
that.
Obviously
I
haven't
had
time
to
keep
up
with
any
of
this
other
stuff,
so
I'll
try
to
catch
up
with
that
over
the
weekend,
but
my
next
thought
would
be
to
probably
take
that
design
and
update
it.
D
But
what
I
I
don't
know
what
his
the
connections
are
in
the
joints,
but
if
he's
still
using
tpu
I'll
go
and
push
forward
to
make
a
filament
type
joint
in
the
fingers
like
what
the
arcs
hand
is
using,
because
that
seems
to
be
most
easily
sourced
and
they
work
really
smooth
and
you
can
put
a
metal
spring
recoil
in
there.
Anywho.
That's
probably
went
a
little
over
the
minute
and
a
half,
but
it
was
better
than
auctioning.
C
D
Fair
enough,
I
need
a
couple
weeks
because
this
pat
this
claim
package
should
go
in
hopefully
next
week
and
then
there's
probably
going
to
be
a
little
armageddon
right
afterwards,
but
maybe
a
week
or
two
after
that.
D
A
D
That
is
I've.
I've
got
stuff
to
show
off,
though
I
mean
I
have
the
whole
catalog
and
everything
so
like
I,
I
am
cool,
so
yeah
we'll
I
I'll
have
time
to
be
able
to
do
those
like
little
prep.
Things
too.
If
I
just
have
a
moment
to
breathe
kind
of
deal,
sounds.