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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting, May 8, 2020
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, May 8, 2020.
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A
Well,
so
I
guess
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
started.
It's
probably
just
going
to
be
us
we'll
just
cover
these
two
action
items,
real,
quick
and
then
get
into
it.
Oh
hey
Nate's,
here
too
good
deal,
hi
Nate,
so
bob
was
going
to
work
on
creating
bad
graphics
for
our
PPE
badges
I
know,
there's
an
email
from
you,
I
haven't
read
yet
I
didn't
see
if
I
had
graphics
or
if
that
was
just.
A
A
Okay,
yeah
appreciate
that,
so
on
page
two
we've
got
the
usual
metrics
I.
Don't
think,
there's
any
need
to
spend
time
on
that,
so
we
can
move
right
on
to
page
three,
which
has
the
topics
but
before
we
even
get
into
that,
you
know
something
that
Bob
just
brought
up
and
something
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about,
which
was
just
kind
of
what's
going
on
with
the
enable
community
right
now
we're,
certainly
in
some
kind
of
a
transition
period
here
there
seems
to
be
kind
of
a
low
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
badging
activity.
A
Our
attendance
for
these
SPC
meetings
was
already
very
poor
and
it
seems
like
it's
markedly
worse
since
we
changed
the
schedule.
I
don't
know.
If
that's
you
know,
as
bob
was
saying
I
don't
know
if
it's,
because
people
are
busy
working
on
making
PPE
or
I
don't
know,
if
maybe
the
whole
like
every
the
whole
3d
printing
community
is
kind
of
rallied
around
this
PPE
thing.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
kind
of
taken
some
of
the
energy
out
of
the
you
know
making
hands
and
arms
not
really
sure.
What's.
C
D
A
D
A
And
so
I,
you
know
I
put
some
notes
in
here
that
might
be
worth
discussing
under
the
topic
of
adapting
for
the
krona
virus
situation.
The
second
bullet
on
our
topics
list.
You
know
one
thought
that
I
had
was
you
know
if
we
haven't
already
done
so,
we
should
probably
be
offering
some
formal
guidance
for
those
volunteers
that
do
still
want
to
be
delivering
hands
and
arms
about
how
they
can
do
so
safely.
A
You
know
I
think
there
should
be
some
kind
of
probably
sanitization
before
shipping
devices,
probably
not
a
good
time
to
be
meeting
up
with
people
in
person
for
sizing
that
kind
of
stuff.
Maybe
we
should
offer
some
safety
guidance
and
recommendations
for
people
that
are
still
involved
in
the
traditional
activities
and
then
the
other
thought
I
had
was
I
mean.
A
Should
we
be
doing
more
to
encourage
or
get
our
volunteers
engaged
in
making
PPE
I
know
we
created
the
space
in
the
hub
and
there's
been
some
discussion
going
on
in
the
coronavirus
space,
but
I
don't
know
that
we've
done
a
lot.
You
know
to
to
formally
kind
of
invite
and
encourage
our
volunteers
to
say:
hey.
Here's
how
you
can
help
here's
the
links,
here's,
what
we
recommend
you
make.
D
C
A
We
still
need
to
better
understand,
what's
happening
there,
because
I'm
not
seeing
a
lot
of
new
cases
created
and
ewc.
So
is
that
because
they
just
kind
of
decide,
it's
not
worth
their
time
or
was
the
platform
too
confusing
for
them?
I,
don't
really
understand
what
where
they're
falling
off
and
why
we're
not
seeing
those
materializes
new
cases
I
do.
D
C
A
A
Here's
how
you'd
answer
those
initial
questions,
here's
how
you
put
in
a
request
for
a
device,
walk
them
through
that
whole
process
start
to
finish,
of
putting
in
a
new
device
request
and
then
a
second
similar
video,
but
for
volunteers,
if
you're
a
volunteer,
you
want
to
use
enable
web
central
to
hook
up
with
people,
you
can
make
devices
for
here's
how
to
set
up
your
account.
Here's
how
to
see
the
available
cases.
You
know
here's
how
to
get
started.
A
C
D
So
you
know
pictum
the
phrase
onboarding
and
the
importance
of
onboarding
is
now
sort
of
online
community
101
right.
This
is
something
we've
done,
sporadically
intermittently
and
and
not
particularly
systematically
though,
but
in
it
it
is
indeed
a
best
practice,
and
yet
we're
not
practicing
it
very
well.
A
D
A
True
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
I
think
the
Deloitte
team
correctly
identified
some
important
changes
for
enable
at
central
specifically
tied
to
that
onboarding
process.
I
think
there's
a
need
to
simplify
that
onboarding,
the
initial
set
of
screens
that
you
have
to
go
through
and
make
it
a
just
a
couple
of
clicks
to
set
up
a
new
account
and
we'll
get
all
that
extra
information
later.
A
Ideally,
I
would
like
to
do
that.
First
then,
put
these
tutorials
together
and
talk
about
you
know
getting
somebody
to
help
with
onboarding.
It's
all
again,
it's
a
question
of
timing.
We
talked
about
this
last
time.
I've
got
you
know,
two
part-time.
You
know
volunteer
developers,
one
volunteer,
one
not-so
volunteer
with
limited
time.
Everything
that
we
do
with
the
enable
web
central
is
going
to
move
pretty
slowly
at
this
point.
So
it's
a
tricky
timing,
question
can't
I,
don't
know
when
exactly
we
could
make
those
changes
to
the
actual.
A
D
Know
so
my
reaction
to
the
videos
is
that
they're
a
good
idea,
but
they
sort
of
again
cater
to
the
people
who
will
go
online
and
look
at
something
watch
the
videos
and
then
do
it.
The
people
who
are
dropping
out
I
suspect
are
not
that
same
population.
Okay,
I
I,
can't
say
why
exactly
but
right
now,
I
think
it
sounds
like
a
good
moment
to.
A
A
Through
a
concierge,
okay,
I
think
that's
a
nice
idea.
It's
obviously
we
have
to
find
somebody
with
the
time
to
do
that
across
international
time.
Zones
and
we'd
have
to
figure
out
the
the
mechanism.
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
an
online
meeting
and
you
do
screen
sharing
and
that
kind
of
thing
I'm,
not
you
know
we
have
to
figure
out
the
how
to
well.
D
D
Right
now,
I
have
this
fantasy.
That
I
I
know
how
busy
Jeremy
is
I
know
how
strung
out
I
am
I'm,
not
even
to
talk
about
Nate
yeah,
but
I'm
able
to
fantasize
that
Bob
could,
for
example,
try
being
a
concierge
for
a
couple
of
cases
and
then
he'd
be
in
a
good
position
to
report
back
and
say
again.
So
here's
what
the
issue
seemed
to
be
when
I've
tried
to
handhold
someone
across
the
threshold.
D
This
is
what
I
found
and
that
would
be
useful
information
and
might,
by
the
way,
put
a
couple
of
people
in
the
queue
and
allow
us
to
take
a
fresh
look
at
this
with
that.
This
is
my
real
point,
without
counting,
as
has
been
our
tendency
in
the
past,
to
assume
that
there's
a
technical
answer
to
all
of
these
problems,
of
whether
it's
making
videos
or
creating
enable
web
central
I.
C
Well,
it's
interesting
because
I
was
just
gonna
say
what
I
can
start
doing
immediately
is
to
begin
following
up
and
linking
the
two
at
least
so.
I
still
continue
to
offer
my
advice
on
the
help
desk
with
the
template,
but
then
I
try
to
follow
ewc
and
if
I
don't
see
the
case
within,
say
three
days,
I
go
back
to
this
person
and
say:
hey
I
just
happened
to
be
you
know,
since
our
last
communication,
I've
noticed
there
is
no
case
I
need
we
sleep.
Are
you
having
difficulty?
What
can
I
do
to
help
and.
D
I
wouldn't
be
at
all
surprised,
Bob.
If
the
solution
is
for
you
to
do
a
screen
share,
and
then
you
ask
them
the
questions
while
going
through
it
with
them.
I
just
have
a
feeling
that
that
might
you
know
now
they're
dealing
with
someone
who's.
Looking
in
the
eye,
you
can
see
what
the
pain
points
really
are.
D
A
A
The
other,
the
other
factor
is
just
in
terms
of
the
logistics
of
that
it
might
be.
If
we
went
that
route,
it
might
be
better
to
do
an
online
meeting
and
have
the
individual
share
their
screen
and
have
them
do
the
data
entry,
because
you
know
when
you
come
to
like
creating
a
new
account.
You're
gonna
have
to
pick
your
password
I.
That's
not
stuff.
A
C
D
C
Me
just
try
that
you
know.
Like
one
case
last
week,
a
woman
wanted
a
device
for
her
child,
so
I
said,
but
it
was
an
exoskeleton.
It
was
not
a
standard
device
and
she
was
asking
me:
what
do
we
have
so
I
said
what
I
think
you
should
do
is
join
me
in
able
hub
he's
first
paradise
to
create
the
case
on
ewc,
which
he
did
and
I
said
upload
all
the
photos
which
she
did
case
number
one.
Oh
three,
four,
okay,.
C
I
said:
go
join
the
naval
hub
and
in
the
forum
go
ahead
and
and
point
everybody
to
your
case
and
the
technical
demands
of
it
and
ask:
are
there
people
out
there
who
could
help
with
an
exoskeleton?
And
indeed
there
were
a
couple
people
who
went
back
and
forth?
You
can
see
it
on
the
forum.
Well,
I
didn't
get
out.
Other
people
are
working
on
I'm.
A
Not
sure
if
you're
I'm
not
sure,
if
you're
aware
of
this
Bob
but
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
Peter
Binkley
did
come
up
with
something
called
the
which
is
an
ex
Costel
Atal
device,
and
that
is
any
neighbor
web
central.
So
when
they're
doing
a
device
request
under
the
category
they
can
select
other
and
then
the
frog
arm
is
one.
That's
listed
there.
So
I.
A
B
C
E
Know
if
you
can,
you
guys
hear
me:
yep
I
know
that
cam
little
cam
from
the
different
heroes,
circa,
cam,
height,
yeah
and
his
hand,
he
uses
a
regular,
enable
hand,
but
he
uses
it
with
a
demo
bar
because
he
has
heart
partial
fingers.
If
you
ever
look
at
his
hand,
both
of
his
hands
he's
has
up
to
the
first
knuckle
and
he
uses
the
enable
hands
was
just
a
demo
bar
because
then
he
can
distract
those
little
nubs
around
it.
It's.
C
Interesting
Jen's
somebody
actually
did
respond
that
solution
on
the
forum.
Baby
was
you.
Somebody
said
you
try,
try
a
regular
device
with
the
demo
bar,
but
you
know
if
anybody
on
this,
you
can
go
to
the
forum
and
see
the
link
and
respond
to
this
woman.
If
you
have
more
information
and
I
might
have
about
something
that
was
used
historically,
please
feel
free,
but
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
start
on
I'll
start
on
boarding
in
the
sense
of
bird
dogging.
A
A
C
A
D
Bob
I
would
encourage
you
to
take
at
least
one
case
and
to
literally
try
to
walk
through
it
with
them.
You
know
if
they're,
if
they're
willing,
I
thought.
Oh
I
saw
that
a
link
into
the
chat
for
a
screen
leap
which
has
which
I
see
I
used
to
work
with
this
company
five
years
ago,
and
then
they
evident
now
they've
pivoted
back,
it's
a
very
simple
I
haven't
tested
it
lately.
D
It's
a
very
simple
screen:
control
sharing
thing
nothing
to
install,
but
you
can
share
a
link
and
then
you
can
give
someone
control
of
your
computer
and
so
that,
for
example,
is
a
way
in
which
you
could
do
a
shared
screen,
walking
them
through
and
for
the
magical
things
like
doing
a
password
and
so
on.
They
can
type
their
own
thing,
nothing
to
install,
etc.
A
A
Okay,
you
know
I
was
hoping
to
keep
this
meeting
short
anyway.
I,
don't
think
we
have
that
much
to
cover.
So,
let's,
let's
use
that
as
our
target
I
do
still
think
it's
worth
thinking
about
getting
another
newsletter
out.
I
know
Ben's
been
really
busy
with
the
stuff
we're
doing
with
the
ub
team,
but
if
he
could
get
her
newsletter
together,
maybe
we
could
do
one,
that's
kind
of
hey.
You
know
here's
how
you
can
be
helping
right
now
in
this.
B
A
We
should
I,
you
know,
I
put
I,
think
the
pin
post
right
now
in
the
main
forum
does
have
mentioned
and
a
link
to
the
coronavirus
space,
but
not
a
lot
more
detail
we
have
to.
We
have
to
find
the
right
balance
right.
We
want
to
have
I
like
the
idea
of
a
pin
post,
but
we
don't
want
a
pin
post
to
be
too
long.
So
we
right.
A
The
information
so
that,
slowly,
you
know,
maybe
it
may
be
a
pin
post
within
the
coronavirus
space,
which
we
point
to
from
the
main
forum
or
something
but
regardless
I
need
somebody
to
kind
of
help
to
put
that
information
together.
You
know
what
are
the
recommendations,
what
should
people
be
doing
and
what
you
know
give
them
links
to
the
files
and
all
that
kind
of,
because,
right
now,
it's
kind
of
spread
all
over
the
place.
I
can.
B
A
B
Another
a
good
way
to
deal
with
this.
We
were
a
deal
at
the
same
thing
for
the
website
we
were
making
for
the
collection
center.
Here
we
were
thinking
just
making
links
to
their
pages
for
the
SOPs
and
stuff
sure
that
way
they
update
on
the
fly,
and
all
these
other
things
as
well
right
is
that
cool
John.
You.
A
Better
okay
yeah,
if
you
made,
if
you
helped
me
cope
with
the
language,
I'd,
be
happy
to
put
it
in
there
as
a
pin
post
in
the
coronal
air
space
and
then
call
attention
to
it
from
the
main
forum.
I
think
that
would
help
you
know.
We
also
have
some.
It
just
occurred
to
me
that
we've
got
some
nice
recordings,
Jen
and
I
put
on
a
series
of
events.
Recently,
several
of
those
sessions
were
enable
focused.
We
had
a
couple
of
nice
roundtable
discussions
amongst
educators.
A
E
Jeremy
I
have
on
my
task
list
for
3d
universe,
to
put
together
the
blog
post
about
the
enable
sessions.
So
that's
right
I'll
be
doing
that
for
3d.
You
I
can
just
copy
that
over
to
ETF
and
then
add
those
also,
if
you
go
to
the
website,
underneath
the
picture
of
cam
there's
a
little
banner
now
that
says
something
like
enables
response
to
coated
you're
gonna
either
the
pages
that
are
being
updated.
Okay,
so
I'd,
yes,
yeah.
C
I've
got
certain
members
of
the
audience
on
this
call:
let's
not
lose
sight
of
nirp
the
current
vegetable
Nico
roll
that
out-
and
you
know,
I
monies
I
think
have
been
refunded
now
John
as
far
as
began,
or
does
acquitting
not
gonna
be
coming
out
for
filming,
but
we
we'll
pass.
This
is
PPE
peek
right.
A
A
B
Can
I
think
we
can
actually
do
some
of
them
over
at
the
center
actually
at
the
collection
center?
So
because
now
we
got
the
social
distancing
part
there.
So
I
think
we
can
actually
shoot
him
over
there.
So
I
needed
Lorenzo's
hands.
That's
who
I
really
needed
his
hands
for
they're
a
bunch
of
this
so
I
think
we
can
probably
do
a
bunch
of
it
over
there
and
we
now
have
the
center.
B
We
thought
it
was
going
to
end
at
the
end
of
May,
but
we
don't
have
it
all
the
way
into
June
20th
fish
somewhere
in
there.
So,
but
there
should
be
enough
time
where
we
can
do
it.
I've
been
trying
to
get
my
stupid
printer
back
up
and
running
and
I'm
gonna
flash
the
firmware
to
after
we
get
done
here.
Okay,
hopefully
by
tonight,
I'll,
actually
have
that
beast
back
up
and
going
it's
been
freaking.
It's
been
mind-numbing
with
all
these
emergencies
going
on
and
not
being
able
to
do
anything
or
prototype
anything.
B
It
it's
a
lows:
bot
has
six
it's
a
really
nice
printer
when
it's
working,
but
it
LeWitt's
brings
out
or
something
I,
don't
know
what
happened,
but
the
menus
all
changed
in
there
and
now
the
only
thing
that's
really
looks
like
an
option.
Is
the
reset
factory
defaults
I'm,
just
starting
from
scratch
again
with
it?
So
good
luck.
Hopefully
we
get
that
fixed,
but
it
was
having
a
problem
leveling
the
bed
too.
So
there
might
be
hurt
once
I
get
the
brains
on
it
back.
B
A
E
Not
that
I
can
think
of
I've,
mostly
just
been
seeing
a
lot
of
PPE
happening
from
our
enable
chapters,
I'm
still
wondering
if
people
are
still
doing
prosthetics
and
if
they
are.
What
is
this
protocol
for
that
yeah.
A
D
Yeah
so,
however,
I
I
do
perceive
that
just
as
God
help
us
cities
and
states
around
the
country
are
entering
a
new
stage
of
the
corona
crisis.
The
reopening
crisis
Nate
has
not
flinched
as
the
idea
that
it's
time
for
nigh
up
to
go
forward,
we're
beginning
to
think
about
whatever
happened,
to
enable
and
what
to
do
with,
and
so
on,
Jen
it
might
be
really
and
and
I
think
is
too
busy
to
be
here
right
now,
but
Jen.
D
It
might
be
really
good
for
you
to
put
out
your
feelers
and
recognize
that
it
would
be
great
to
sort
of
get
reports
gather
information
about
where
people
are
at
right.
Now,
we've
been
out
of
touch
we've
all
been
coping
with
the
crisis,
we're
all
now
beginning
to
come
to
grips
with.
What
is
our
new
normal?
D
D
A
E
You
know
like
I
was
I
can
reach
out
to
to
some
of
the
the
folks
like
enable
France
and
Brazil
and
them
and
see
if
they're
but
I'm,
pretty
sure
the
folks
in
like
Brazil
and
Argentina.
They
have
not
been
making
hands
because
they
work
directly
with
their
patient
versus.
You
know,
people
in
the
US,
where
we
send
them
through
the
mail
most
of
the
time.
I
know
that
there's
you
know
all
of
our
schools
are
closed.
So
those
makers
and
classrooms
aren't
making
hands.
E
The
kids,
who
you
know,
got
their
hand
when
they're
they
were
four
or
five
learned
to
use
it
for
specific
tasks
and
now
have
outgrown
the
ones
that
they
have,
because
they're
makers
are
busy
with
PPE
or
you
know,
are
absent
or
too
busy
or
can't
afford
to
make
it
a
new
replacement.
Because
you
know
they've
lost
their
job
and
they
can't
afford
the
materials.
What
happens
to
all
these
kids?
Who
will
been
getting
them
and
now
can't
well.
A
We
need
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
get
these
people
into
the
enable
web
central
process,
because
we
have
I
mean
there.
We've
got
a
lot
on
the
last
I
checked.
It
was
over
4,000
users
on
in
April
at
Central,
we've
got
thousands
of
volunteers
in
there
and
they're
hungry
for
cases.
You
know
we're
constantly
having
volunteers.
Ask
us:
why
aren't
there
more
device
requests
in
the
enable
of
Central
I
want
to
help,
but
I
can't
find
a
case.
A
So
if
there
are
people
that
need,
you
know,
updated
resize
devices
if
we
could
just
get
them
to
go
in
to
enable
web
Central
and
put
in
a
device
request,
there
are
volunteers
that
have
the
time
and
the
funds
to
still
be
doing
that
we
just
got
to
figure
how
to
get
them
into
that
process.
You
know
and.
E
D
A
Right,
yeah,
I,
don't
think
we've
as
a
community.
We've
never
really
done
a
good
job
on
the
follow
up
side
and
I.
Don't
think
most
of
our
makers
are
good
at
reaching
out
to
their
individual
recipients
to
say:
hey
is
that
still
working?
Do
you
need
me
to
make
you
a
new
one?
I
think
we
need.
We
need
to
kind
of.
Let
our
audience
know
that
hey.
A
B
A
B
A
A
Just
we
absolutely
could,
but
again
we
need.
We
need
people
to
commit
themselves
to
doing
that
on
a
regular
basis,
and
it's
just
I'm
not
disagreeing
we
absolutely.
This
is
something
we
should
have
been
doing
for
years,
but
we've
just
never
managed
to
actually
implement
the
process
either
a
technical
mechanism
or
a
manual
mechanism.
We
just.
D
D
Accountable
activity
I've
been
really
impressed
by
how
much
how
how
good
our
execution
has
been,
because
we
had
one
guy
been
yeah.
Who
was
able
to
do
all
the
things
that
none
of
us
would
do
if
we
none
of
us
do
reliably
because
we're
not
being
paid
to
do
it,
we're
not
on
the
hook
to
do
it
a
there
is
a
staff
position,
yeah.
D
A
D
E
D
C
Just
I
have
absolutely
no
data
to
back
the
statement
up,
but
my
gut
tells
me
most
people
in
enable
are
not
making
PPE.
We
have
pockets
of
intense
activity
and
chapters
and
regions.
But
if
you
look,
if
we
say
we
have
8,000
volunteers
across
the
world
or
like
a
number,
most
of
them
are
not
making
PE
PE
every.
A
B
B
This
is
kind
of
a
simple
solution,
but
I
was
saying
we
just
cross.
Would
you
cross
membership
so
like
I
as
a
member
of
my
chapter,
then
we'll
go?
Join
a
local
makerspace
then
get
a
member
from
their
makerspace
to
join
the
local,
enable
chapter
that
way.
Both
communities
are
tied
into
each
other
in
all
of
that
localized
chapter
settings-
and
you
know
this.
A
That
brings
up
kind
of
another
interesting
idea.
Natan,
it's
I,
don't
think
now
is
the
right
time,
but
as
the
the
the
PPE
shortage
starts
to
ease,
which
will
happen
eventually
and
and
3d
printing
of
PPE
becomes
maybe
less
important.
Maybe
that's
a
good
idea
for
us,
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
kind
of
post
into
some
of
those
other
groups
to
say:
hey
now,
you've
discovered
the
joy
of
using
your
3d
printers
to
help
people
come
join
us
over
here
and
enable
we've
got
more.
You
know
that
comes.
B
Oh,
that's
a
great
olive
branch
to
throw
out
there
too,
but
we
can
already
pay
it
forward.
By
going
and
talking
to
those
people
now
and
saying,
look,
do
you
need
help
and
support
with
printing
right
now
in
this
moment
and
see
we,
you
start
to
generate
a
back-and-forth
of
goodwill
right
there
yeah,
then
that
message
would
totally
be
received
very
well
and
that's.
My
whole
plan
basically
is
like
you
know,
let's
piece
and
come
out
of
it.
Just
gonna
play
a
game.
It's.
B
B
Partnering
and
cross
membership
like
I,
was
talking
before
and
we
Lauren
is
a
very
apt
and
capable
person.
She
is
a
complex
systems
manager
and
she
may
be
able
to
help
with
some
of
these
other
issues,
like
maybe
coming
up
with
an
automated
system
that
emails
people
after
three
years
in
the
registry,
or
something
to
that
that
she
she's
got
money
and
funds
and
capability
that
we
kind
of
dumped
and
she's
able
to
execute
things
very
quickly
in
a
way
that
volunteers
can't
do
I
mean
I.
B
B
Made
a
boilerplate
template
of
her
plan,
basically
which
we're
trying
to
then
give
to
the
other
chapters,
so
they
can
expand
the
same
concept
and
basically
find
have
an
enabler
find
a
makerspace
in
their
local
area.
Have
the
makerspace
kind
of
start,
adopting
these
boilerplate
standards
and
then
being
able
to
make
that
same
thing
happen
there.
It
won't
work,
it
probably
won't
happen
everywhere,
but
in
places
the
higher
populations
I
think
it'll
be
really
successful.
D
Will
admit
that
I
have
found
myself
wondering
whether
whether
we're
approaching
a
moment
for
a
serious
reboot
of
enable
the
coronavirus
is
gonna,
be
with
us
for
a
couple
of
years
and
the
idea
that
a
global
network
of
humanitarian
makers
can
make
a
difference
is
now
you
know
a
common
observation.
It's
no
longer
it's,
you
know,
you
don't
need
vision
or
visionaries
anymore,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
other
people
who
are
thinking
about
this
kind
of
thing.
B
Organizations.
Okay,
so
that's
that's
great,
and
by
that
very
token
we
don't
need
to
have
anything
written
in
stone.
Necessarily
the
cross
membership
concept
actually
works
to
bring
in
other
makerspaces.
To
already
make
that
happen,
the
thing
that
I
see
enable
really
has
is
a
strength.
Is
this
global
infrastructure
already
set
up
and
a
badging
infrastructure
which
ends
up
being
really
important
for
PPP,
and
some
of
these
other
medical
things
now
I
think
enable
is
really
good
sticking
with
upper
limb,
prosthetics
and
branching
into
lower
limb
prosthetics,
but
keeping
it
kind
of
there.
B
It's
making
like
these
satellite
chapters
out
of
maker
spaces
that
can
then
facilitate
some
of
these
other
medical
needs.
That's
what
I
kind
of
see
on
that
whole
thing.
It's
seeing
now
that
we're
we're
looking
at
needing
some
employment
positions,
probably
fill
for
people
that
are
there
long
term
I'd
like
to
throw
in
into
the
Hat
here
the
concept
of
an
upper
limb,
prosthetics
group
or
lower
limb,
maybe
in
the
future,
should
employ
amputees
or
congenital
people
with
limb
difference,
and
they
should
be
the
employ
if
we're
having
employees.
D
D
B
It's
that
is
the
that
is
the
vehicle
we
use
to
ask
for
more
funding
from
the
found
eight
from
whatever
foundation
were
looking
at
marketing
to
that's
the
vehicle
used.
As
for
hearing
a
larger
amount
of
funding
where
we
could
actually
employ
a
staff
of
I,
don't
know
10
or
12
individuals
actually
all
doing
different
things.
Cuz,
we
use
a
web
developer,
we
could
use
more
marketing
and
we
could
use
somebody
to
help
Ben
with
to
work
with
Ben
for
just
media
outreach
right,
but
it
would
start
adding
up.
A
So
let
me
just
jump
in
some,
as
is
often
the
case,
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
good
ideas.
We
do
a
great
job
at
coming
up,
good
ideas.
We
don't
do
quite
as
well
at
coming
up
with
ways
of
executing
on
those
ideas
and
coming
up
with
action
plans.
I
was
hoping
to
keep
today's
meeting
a
little
bit
shorter,
so
I've
actually
going
to
recommend
that
we
try
to
kind
of
bring
things
to
a
rap
here.
Maybe
just
digest
this
a
little
bit
think
about
it.
A
E
I
would
like
to
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
enable
is
John
was
on
a
panel
with
me
for
k-12
and
human
centered,
design
and
and
stuff
like
that,
and
you
know
especially
was
this
students
being
stuck
at
home
and
teacher
to
being
stuck
at
home
and
makers
being
stuck
at
home
I
personally,
don't
think
that
enable
is
just
about
3d
printed
prosthetics
right.
E
It's
it's
about
helping
people
with
what
you
have
where
you
are.
It
doesn't
always
even
have
to
be
printed,
but
I
think
that
going
forward,
we
well
right
now
we're
seeing
that
we
have
been
able
volunteers
who
have
jumped
in
on
the
PPE
thing,
and
then
we've
got
just
people,
general
makers
and
and
the
enable
gets
a
lot
of
credit.
For
you
know
the
the
way
in
which
we
have
given
example
of
how
makers
can
help
in
the
world.
A
Percent
some
of
the
things
that
I
heard
in
that
panel
discussion
Jen,
where
I
think
some
of
the
most
valuable
contributions
that
the
Enable
community
has
brought,
especially
with
younger
folks,
is
just
the
simple
act
of
teaching
them
to
look
out
at
the
around
them
and
the
people
around
them
and
say
how
can
I
help
make
their
their
life
a
little
better.
I
mean
to
me
that's
one
of
the
most
important
things
about
enable
yeah.
E
And
that's
what
I've
been
focusing
on
for
the
last
few
years?
You
know
trying
to
get
the
kids
to
think
of
ways
to
make
things
for
the
visually
impaired
people
with
strokes.
You
know
now
it's
PPE,
it's
not
it's
generally
just
enable
it
is
enabling
somebody
to
have
an
easier
life
yeah
with
what
we
can
do
to.
B
D
B
A
C
What,
if
use
caution
that,
as
we
think
as
we
reinvent
ourselves
and
and
more
any
any
shortcomings
we
have
in
what
we
do
today
is
only
going
to
get
amplified
so
to
the
extent
we
don't
have
data,
we
don't
know
what
people
are
doing.
We
don't
get
people
on
board
at
TWC
or
an
arm
or
a
ventilator
or
a
face
mask.
C
A
Then
there's
the
question
of
oversight:
I
mean
we've,
we've
been
pretty
lucky
so
far
in
terms
of
the
FDA
and
other
governmental
bodies
that
have
basically
kind
of
given
us
more
or
less
permission
to
say
we're
we're
not
going
to
interfere
with
what
you're
doing
the
more
we
start
branching
off
and
the
more
we
start
getting
into
some
of
these
other
areas
of
that
that
could
change.
Okay,.
B
So
the
thing
I'm
doing
with
makers,
Fork
ovid
they're
hooked
up
with
the
Colorado
Hospital
Association
and
she
is
an
ex-nurse,
so
she's
really
hooked
in
with
the
and
the
Cu
and
shoots
medical
campus
is
helping
them
with
their
designs.
So
we
have
an
in
here
to
get
into
lots
of
hospitals
and
be
accepted,
spread
the
email,
brand
name
and
awareness.
B
Basically,
let
them
all
know
that
we're
a
thing,
because
a
lot
of
them
aren't
aware
of
us
still
and
let
them
know
some
of
the
new
products
we
had
because
Jon
brought
up
the
point
before
we.
We
now
actually
have
products
that
we
could
totally
present
to
prosthetists
and
say
like
this
is
another
option
for
people
who
are
into
ginger,
otherwise
couldn't
afford
a
device
mm-hmm
I'm!
Sorry
I
should
have
thrown
that
Grenadian
right.
No.
A
It's
okay!
It's
it's
all!
Really
good
information
and
stuff
that
I'd
like
to
discuss
further
but
I
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
kind
of
bring
this
to
a
close
for
today.
Does
anybody
else
have
anything
that.