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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting, May 1, 2020
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, May 1, 2020.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: https://bit.ly/2WaA2hu
A
Anyway,
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
to
see
if
anyone
else
shows
otherwise,
maybe
this
will
just
be
a
short.
You
know,
discussion
amongst
the
three
of
us,
so
I
am
recording
and
it's
been
a
while,
since
our
last
meeting
so
I
I
transferred
over
the
couple
of
actual
items
that
we
had
one
was
for
Bob
and
I
to
work
on
getting
new
bed
just
set
up
for
PPE,
and
it's
that's
still
in
progress.
Bob
did
his
part
I've
got
to
do
my
parts.
A
I
put
some
notes
down
below
about
specific
open
items
on
that
the
next
one
was
for
me
to
create
this
test
model
that
we
talked
about
for
TPU
evaluation,
that's
been
done
and
it's
been
added
into
our
documentation
for
the
the
mask.
I
believe.
So
that's
that's
available,
although
I
think
we're
coming
up
with
kind
of
other,
better
ways
of
testing
that's
kind
of
an
ongoing
process.
So
we'll
just
move
on
I
put
the
latest
metrics
in
here,
not
a
lot
of
activity
happening.
A
You
know
even
not
many
badges
going
out
I
and
you
know
I
it's
kind
of
interesting,
because
we,
you
know
the
assumption
would
be
oh
well,
everybody's
working
on
PPE,
but
when
I
look
at
the
metrics
like
there
were
zero
new
posts
in
the
PPE
space
this
week,
so
I
don't
know.
What's
going
on
everyone's
kind
of
going
quiet,
you.
B
A
A
B
A
B
A
A
Then
I
need
you
know,
I
guess
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
because
at
this
point
I'll
need
that
in
order
to
be
able
to
do
the
other
things
which
is
I've
got
to
add
the
badges
into
badge
or
I,
oh
I've
got
to
add
them
into
the
enable
hub,
badging
space
and
then
we'll
post
a
message
letting
the
community
know
about
them.
So
I
guess
I
do
need
those
badge,
graphics,.
A
Right
so
anyway,
we'll
get
that
done
so
Bob
will
do
the
graphics
and
then
I'll
do
those
other
steps.
So
anyway,
real
quick
on
the
enable
up
central
man
we'll
come
back
to
the
PPE
topic.
We
did
finish
our
migration,
so
we
are
now
entirely
hosted
on
Azure,
so
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
shut
down
the
Rackspace
hosting
soon
and
save
some
money
there
that'll
be
nice.
As
far
as
I
know,
everything
is
working,
fine
I
haven't
heard
any.
You
know,
reports
of
issues
and
again
the
the
lead
developer
who's
been.
A
A
What
do
we
do
with
the
enable
up
central
and
how
do
we
want
to
redesign
it
to
make
it
easier
to
use
and
what
new
functionality
we
do
want
to
work
on
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
I
think
we
already
have
some
things
that
we
know
we
want
to
do
from
the
from
the
Deloitte
team.
We
want
to
simplify
the
onboarding
so
that
you
don't
have
to
go
through
all
those
six
screens.
A
You
know
of
information
when
you
sign
up
as
a
new
user,
we're
gonna
make
it
very
simple
couple
of
clicks
to
get
started
and,
and
other
thing
is
to
try
to
make
a
little
bit
easier
to
navigate
through
and
then
I
think
it's
about
adding
in
other
new
functionality.
We
know
we
want
to
build
a
reporting
dashboard
in
there
to
start
showing
statistics
and
that
sort
of
thing
we
know
we
want
to
add
functionality
for
chapters
to
manage
their
chapter
members
and
manage
cases
across
their
chapter.
A
So
a
couple
of
things
we
know
we
want
to
do
and
then
the
rest
of
the
you
know
everything
else
will
have
to
kind
of
figure
out
and
prioritize.
So
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
right.
Now
things
are
gonna
move,
slow,
I
mean
it's
Neal
and
and
Guillermo,
both
of
whom
are
part-time
and
so
we'll
kind
of
do
things
as
we
can,
but
it'll
be
slow
progress
on
the
new
features.
A
A
I
was
you
know
very
active
in
that
space
before,
but
I've
been
so
busy
with
the
UB
Group
that
I've
kind
of
had
to
shift
focus
away
from
that
for
a
little
while,
but
I
hope
to
get
back
in
there
soon
with
updates,
but
we
have
released
our
ve
mask
first
in
1.0,
which
is
the
mask
that
we've
designed
collaboratively
with
this
UB
team,
and
so
far
it's
really
been
pretty
positively
received.
Overall,
the
the
medical
folks
on
our
team
have
been
have
been
sharing
very
positive
feedback
about
it.
A
The
testing
results
that
have
been
coming
in
have
been
very
positive
so
far.
We
have
more
test
results
coming
in
early
next
week,
but
so
far
everything
has
been
pretty
encouraging.
We
had
somebody
on
the
call
today
from
Kuwait
who
shared
it
with
some
medical
professionals
there
and
they
loved
it,
and
he
made
some
nice
improvements
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
later
today
in
another
meeting,
so
lots
of
really
good
stuff
happening,
we're
also
very
close
on
a
version
two
of
this
mask
that
will
use
this
circular.
A
It's
gonna
be
ready
for
public
consumption,
we're
just
making
final
updates
on
it,
but
he's
done
a
great
job
kind
of
collecting,
all
the
different
information
and
documentation
and
links,
and
all
that
and
getting
it
all
in
one
place.
So
that's
kind
of
what's
been
happening.
I
put
some
other
links
in
here
for
kind
of
what
I
think
we
want
to
be
encouraging
our
community
to
do
that
is
the
you
know.
You
can
do
these
respirator
masks,
but
you
can
also
do
the
face
shields.
A
I
put
a
link
in
here
to
the
I,
see
3d
design
which
I
kind
of
like,
but
there
are
other
designs
also
and
then
there's
these
mask
tension,
release
straps
or
ear
savers
and
I
also
put
a
list
in
a
link
in
for
that
as
well.
So
that's
kind
of
my
summary
of
where
things
are
at
and
Bob
feel
free
to
discuss
anything
else
that
you
have
might.
B
B
A
A
Right
so
I
think
there's
a
small
number
that
are
doing
quite
a
lot
of
it.
There's
some
other
number
that
is
unknown,
who
are
probably
doing
it,
but
just
not
sharing
as
actively
and
not
posting
about
it,
they're
just
kind
of
doing
it
in
their
own
communities,
and
we
don't
really
have
visibility
into
that
and
then
there's
the
rest
of
the
community
that
that
maybe
isn't
I
just
really
don't
know.
Yeah.
B
So
you
know
I
look
at
myself,
I've
made
all
of
those
in
donator.
I
have
made
50
button,
masks
and
I
had
to
find
it
was
tough
to
find
a
home
by
the
time.
I
got
the
face
shields
and
put
everything
together:
Yale
New,
Haven
health,
a
big
network
here
said
we
are
awash
in
face
masks.
Thank
you.
Can
you
send
them?
Someplace
else,
I
had
to
actually
dig
to
find
a
nursing
home
that
needed
them
and
I'm
in
Rhode
Island
on
the
Connecticut
border,
not
far
outside
a
lot
of.
B
A
B
A
Put
two
links
into
the
notes:
one
is
get
us
PPE,
org
and
the
other
is
fine.
The
masks
com,
those
are
both
sites.
Where
you
can,
where
people
can
go,
medical
institutions
can
go
and
say:
hey,
we
need
PPE
and
folks,
like
us,
can
go
there
and
say:
hey
I've
got
it
and,
and
it
kind
of
lets
you
know
where
to
send
it.
So
those
are
two
sites
that
you
can
use
and.
B
C
C
A
I
mean
they're
designed
and
that's
why
I'm
so
be
that
we
have
so
many
medical
professionals
on
our
team
they're
designed
to
be
good
enough
for
medical
professionals
to
hold
up
to
medical
standards,
but
now
that
the
CDC
is
recommending
that
we
all
wear
masks.
You
know
there's
no
reason
that
anyone
can't
use
this
for
their
own
protection
and.
A
B
A
A
A
A
A
You
know
this
comes
back
to
our
same
old
problem.
Right
is
just
you
know,
gathering
data
about
what
the
heck
our
community
is
up
to.
We
it's
a
black
hole
and
so
I
think
we're
running
back
into
that
same
situation.
Again,
we
have
no
idea
how
many
people
are
doing
it.
How
many
you
know
units
have
been
made,
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
good
data
on
that.
C
D
C
With
a
group
called
helpful
engineering
on
a
project
which,
by
the
way
it
does
not
involve
3d
printing
I,
consider
it
enable
work.
They
are
by
the
way,
occasionally
using
the
enable
logo,
because
I'm
sort
of
a
project
lead
in
order
to
have
some
credibility
uh-huh.
But
you
know
there
are
lots
of
organizations
have
sprung
up
that
are
doing
this.
Enable
ish
activity
that
are
not
eating
and
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
that
that's
where
some
four
people
are
anyway
looks
true.
That.
C
A
A
Has
been,
it
has
been
submitted
to
the
FDA
so
that
we
hope
to
have
their
emergency
use
authorization
soon
for
this
design
it's
being
submitted
to
the
NIH
I.
Think
as
we
speak,
and
it's
going
through
official
testing
at
a
sort
of
a
NIOSH
based
level.
Now
it's
not
actually
an
IRS
testing,
but
it's
that
level
of
testing
and
we
should
have
those
results
early
next
week.
So
it's
yeah!
It's
it's
moving
along.
B
A
B
A
A
What
we're
going
to
do
in
addition
to
summarizing
the
recent
series
of
webinars
that
we
did,
which
were
in
part
sponsored
by
enable
we're
gonna
link
to
those
recordings
of
all
those
sessions,
but
we're
also
going
to
put
a
renewed
call
out
there
for
donations
into
the
fund
that
we're
running
so
I
have
a
fund
that
I've
managed
through
3d
universe,
where
people
can
basically
they
can
go
to
our
site.
They
can
buy,
enable
gift
cards,
and
that
goes
into
this
fund
and
we've
been
using
that
fun
to
send
out
free
materials
for
anybody.
A
Who's,
printing
PPE,
so
I've
I've
sent
out
I
think
over
three
thousand
dollars
worth
of
printing
materials
in
recent
weeks
from
that
fund,
and
so
that's
another
way
that
enable
is
making
an
impact.
Even
if
it's
not
people
directly
making.
You
know
our
volunteers
making
these
it's
it's.
That
mechanism
of
being
able
to
help
out
I
mean
I've
had
so
many
people.
Email
me
to
take
advantage
of
that
offer
to
say:
hey
I'm,
making
a
pee-pee.
Can
you
send
me
some
free
material?
B
C
Giving
Tuesday
you
know
it:
it's
not
a
big
deal,
you
put
a
Facebook
post
together
and
it's
on
Facebook
and
I.
Think
there
are
few
other
places
where
you
could
you
can
do
it
and
then
I
think
they
provide
they
sort
of
set
the
stage
it's
a
matter
of
making
a
post.
If
I
were
doing
it,
I
would,
and
it
may
well
be
me.
C
A
Needs
to
be
like
one
thing,
I
think,
oh,
you
know,
a
bunch
of
us
could
do
posts
in
different
places
and
they
don't.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
some
big
story
either.
I
think
it
like
John
said
it
could
just
be
kind
of
a
call
say:
hey
givingtuesday,
you
know.
Click
here
come
help
us
we're
making
PPE
I.
Think
the
question
is:
what
is
that
call-to-action
and
I
see
two
options?
A
One
is
we
direct
them
to
the
enable
fund
and
the
invite
them
to
donate
their
I
have
to
say
that,
given
what
I've
been
seeing
lately
in
the
lull
in
activity,
I'm,
not
convinced
that
that
would
be
the
best
way
for
us
to
make
immediate
use
of
those
funds.
If
they
go
into
the
enable
fund.
What
are
they
going
to
do?
They're
going
to
kind
of
sit
there
until
we
can
figure
out
how
to
make
use
of
those?
C
Think
both
I
think
both
are
fine.
I
will
point
out
that
the
enable
fund
that
we
just
sent
Ben
Rubin
six
thousand
dollars
for
the
last
quarter
and
the
end
the
month.
Okay,
so
that's
that's
five
installments
and
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
enable
fund
is
now
down
to
ten
ish.
Maybe
fifteen
dollars.
B
And
we
have
a
discussion
item
a
year
called.
Are
we
ever
going
to
be
going
out
to
Colorado
to
film
my
op
and
if
not,
there
are
certainly
funds
that
we
haven't
spent
some
of
its
been
committed,
an
airline,
and
you
know
they,
given
you
credits
and
everything,
but
you
can't
get
the
money
back
right
right.
Well,.
B
A
A
A
So
maybe
maybe
what
we
should
do
is
divide
and
conquer,
maybe
like
John,
you
and
Ben
and
Bob.
Maybe
you
guys
put
calls
out
to
say
you
know,
use
this
opportunity
to
support
the
enable
community
and
the
work
we're
doing
for
PPE
and
direct
them
to
the
enable
fund
and
I'll
have
Jen.
Do
some
posting
to
direct
people
to
our?
You
know
enable
gift
cards
for
supporting
the
free
material
program
that
we
have
and
we
can
kind
of
support
both
causes.
That
way.
C
A
C
C
Well,
it
could
go
either
way.
I
you
could
I,
don't
I,
don't
care
it.
I,
don't
know,
I'll
just
point
out
that
one
route
is
exactly
what
you
said
and
the
reason
I'm
hemming
and
hawing
is
because
that
sort
of
a
fractionation
of
what
we're
doing
and
I'm
still
frankly,
I
still
don't
quite
know
what
to
think
about.
C
C
A
Mean
I
think
it's
a
good
idea:
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
to
go
about
it.
I
guess.
Maybe
we
need
to
look
into
what
those
options
are
and
in
terms
of
running,
multiple
fundraising
campaigns
and
whether
that
makes
sense
or
if
we
just
want
to
do
a
single
one
and
keep
it
simple,
I'm
fine,
with
I'm
fine,
with
any
approach
whatever.
C
C
That's
how
it'll
go
so
if
it
if
it
makes
sense
that
it's
intuitive
and
easy
for
you
to
just
do
your
filament
fund,
not
as
a
nonprofit
but
as
some
kind
of
a
donation
venture
go
for
it.
If
you
wish
to
save,
be
able
to
encourage
people
to
make
tax
deductible
donations
and
go
through
Rochester
naval
limited,
you
know
how
to
do.
You
know
what
to
do
or
let
me
know.
A
Sounds
good
guys,
I
have
an
update
that
came
in
through
whatsapp
from
Everton
I'm,
very
sorry
to
report
that
Everton,
the
sister
has
tested
positive
for
Kovac.
Oh
really,
sorry
to
hear
that.
That's!
Why
he's
not
here,
but
his
update
is
that
they
have
been
able
to
produce
a
good
number
of
face
shields
for
donation
production
is
35
thousand
and
the
target
is
100
thousand
am
I.
Reading
this
right?
Yes,.
B
C
A
B
C
A
A
C
A
C
So
also
Mohammed
is
gonna
show
right,
because
when
we
do,
you
think
right
with
regard
to
Beck
told
he
has
been.
You
know,
sitting
in
on
some
of
the
Buffalo,
enable
meetings,
I
think
is
eager
to
explore
this
injection-molding
scenario.
Okay,
he
also
I
think
understands
that
the
time
may
not
be
right
and
that
the
design
may
not
be
stable
right.
So
you're
gonna
want
to
give
him
guidance,
and
you
should
you
know,
feel
free
to
either
point
him
to
a
design
or
a
timetable.
Sure
would
say
it's
just
not
clear
yet
yeah.
A
A
C
A
C
B
A
B
A
B
B
A
A
A
B
A
Know
something
that
has
come
up
and
discussed.
You
know
something.
That's
come
up
a
few
times
and
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
is
ever
has
that
ever
pursued.
This
is:
has
anyone
any
Nabal
tried
reaching
out
to
shipping
carriers
to
see
if
we
could
negotiate
favorable
rates
for
our
devices
that
are
being
sent
for
donation,
yeah.
C
A
B
C
A
Well,
I,
don't
know
that
it
makes
sense
to
go
into
any
of
these
other
topics.
Right
now,
I
mean
I.
Don't
think
we
really
need
to
talk
about.
You
know,
chapter
stuff
and
we
kind
of
covered,
fundraising.
I
would
say
we're,
probably
a
good
breaking
point
for
today,
unless
you
guys
have
anything
else.
I.
A
A
A
D
A
D
Really
interesting
is
there's
a
lot
of
other
groups
besides
enable
doing
3d
printed
pushes
with
the
makerspaces
enlistment,
and
once
we
started
looking
around.
There
are
a
lot
of
communities
so
now
just
trying
to
get
everybody
in
formation.
Basically,
it's
and
it's
interesting
because,
like
I,
don't
know
how
long
the
squish
is
gonna
last
before
it's
over,
so
it's
like
how
much
can
we
get
done
quickly
and
just
how
much
bang
for
your
buck?
D
So
it's
it's
become
an
interesting
thing
and
then
a
lot
of
the
different
products
are
very
much
limited
by
the
the
other
materials
to
go
along
with
building
them
like
straps,
filter
material.
Elastic
elastic
is
the
it's
a
coveted
item.
Now
really
I
was
making
coffee
filter
masks
for
a
little
while
and
I
can't
get
a
spark.
A
D
D
A
A
D
D
A
That's
for
the
sheet
based
filter
material,
so
the
new
version
2
is
actually
designed
to
use
these
circular
HEPA
cartridges,
which
just
slide
in
so
they're
ready
to
use,
and
there
is
a
manufacturer
that
we
partnered
with
that
is
able
to
produce.
They
said
about
a
thousand
a
week
of
those
and
we're
working
to
get
them
into
other
distribution
channels.
I
I
think
Grainger
and
some
others
I
can't
remember
exactly
so
we're
working
on
kind
of
scaling
up
the
availability
for
this
new
filter
solution.
A
D
Easier
because
the
thing
I
brought
up
before
in
the
in
the
meeting
with
the
buffalo
crew
was
that
I
think
you
guys
need
to
maybe
put
a
stamp
or
something
in
the
print
itself.
Warning
only
use
a
PP
HEPA
filter
in
this
or
some
equivalent.
So
they
know
not
to
use
a
standard
or
maybe
do
not
use
standard
filters,
be
a
HEPA
filters
HEPA
as
the
main
thing,
because,
though
the
HEPA
filters
you
get
at
Home
Depot
or
like
a
garbage
cleaner
bag
like
they
were
saying
they
they're
full
of
fiber
glass
right
right
right.
D
A
D
A
A
A
Not
just
that
I
have
to
keep
a
flat
surface
on
the
bed,
so
you
can't
do
extruded
lettering,
it
has
to
be
embossed
lettering
and
when
you
do
embossed
lettering,
the
medical
professionals
start
to
get
nervous,
because
now
you
got
all
these
little
grooves
where
things
can
get
stuck
and
it
makes
it
harder
to
clean.
So
it's
just
it's
it's
a
little
tricky
to
do
a
lot
of
lettering
on
the
mask.
Maybe.
D
A
D
My
only
concern
about
those
guys
is
because
the
filter
material
is
going
to
be
the
limiting
factor
on
that
once
you
widely
distribute
these,
and
for
that
very
reason,
I
thought
if
I
go
and
push
forward
with
making
the
silicone
ring
one.
First
of
all,
we
have
to
do
clinical
testing
for
all
of
that
will
and
I.
We
worked
all
thing
out,
but
the
other
thing
it's
going
to
be
limited
by
the
same
filters
and
then
we're
going
to
have
that
problem.
Magnified
a
lot
we'll
be
able
to
increase
production.
D
C
One
strategy
that
we're
discussing
that
you
may
want
to
consider
also
is
to
distribute
filters
in
an
eight-pack
Monday,
Tuesday,
Wednesday,
Thursday,
Friday,
Saturday,
Sunday
and
then
a
package
with
spares.
The
notion
is
that
sterilization
of
these
things
is
a
concern,
but
if
you
let
them
sit
for
a
week,
the
virus,
if
it
was
contaminated,
will
have
died,
and
so
that
that
you
know
raises
the
possibility
that,
with
one
for
each
day
of
the
week,
you
could
use
a
single
set
almost
indefinitely
and.
D
I
like
that
idea,
because
that's
already
using
half
as
much
as
I
I
was
hearing
before
they
like
to
use
two
a
day
which
I'm
sure
you
like
to,
but
in
an
emergency
situation
where
we
got
to
deal
with
it,
I
think
it's
not
having
it
in.
There
is
more
important
and
having
one
that's
kind
of
soiled
from
the
morning,
I
think
oh
yeah,
absolutely
not
being
the
guy
wearing
it
all
the
time
and
having
a
stake,
my
life
on
it.
You
know
it's
easy
for
me
to
say
so.
D
D
Damn
I
got
to
get
this
one
for
sure,
so,
I
looked
into
that,
but
I
haven't
talked
to
an
actual
hospital
and
I
want
to
talk
to
the
people
inside
the
hospital
first
and
I
actually
get
a
go-ahead
on
whatever
a
thing
we're
going
to
make
and
the
material
we're
making
and
all
the
specifications
they
want
before
I.
Actually,
even
so.
C
You
donate
there's
a
there's.
A
group
called
helpful
engineering
there,
as
well
as
a
CO
bit
makers.
Facebook
group.
As
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
have
been
working
on
ventilators
but,
as
you
may
not
know,
ventilators
have
turned
out
to
be
the
wrong
hammer
for
this
particular
nail.
In
many
cases
agreed.
C
That's
right
so
I
frankly
think
that
the
ventilator
moment
this
is
just
my
reading,
but
my
reading
is
that
the
ventilator
Motorhead
moment
has
passed.
There
are
open
source
designs
coming
online.
There
are
companies
that
are
getting
their
supply
chains
together
and
they're
not
likely
to
be
the
right
treatment.
In
any
case,
agree:
they're,
okay,
I
have
been
working,
it's
I'll,
piss
fill
you
guys
in
I've
been
working
a
lot
on
the
whole
question
of
infection
barriers.
C
There
are
a
number
of
non
ventilator
solutions:
non-invasive
ventilation
techniques,
the
most
promising
of
which
in
the
last
few
weeks,
turns
out
to
be.
They
call
it
HP
and
C,
high-pressure
nasal
cannula
cannula.
Thank
you
exactly
with
pure
oxide,
pure
warm
humidified
oxygen.
It's
a
group
in
Chicago
that
has
reported,
quote
extraordinary
results
and
that
seems
to
be
very
effective
and
much
less
traumatic
on
the
lungs
than
intubation
or
even
apparently,
pumping
in
and
out,
as
was
done
with
the
CPAP
Cinda,
as
is
also
being
as
for
with
the
CPAP
and
BiPAP
s--.
C
The
challenge
with
all
of
those
non-invasive
techniques
is
that
they
spew
infection
into
the
room,
and
so
I've
been
literally
building
structures
out
of
PVC
pipe
and
plastic,
with
a
vacuum
whose
job
it
is
to
perform
a
tenth
of
some
sort
around
the
patient
and
draw
that
off
into
a
filter.
It's
an
exhaust
hood.
Basically,
it's
a
it's
an
exhausting
that's
right
this
week,
I'm
particularly
keen
on
the
notion
that
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
because
the
nasal
cannula
is
a
tiny
technique
compared
to
intubation
and
even
the
face
masks
a
couple.
D
Right
and
the
thing
I've
step
to
seeing
that
we
were
having
shortages
of
all
the
different
additional
materials
and
stuff
those
ear
relief
straps
for
the
surgical
masks.
That
just
are
little
hooks
that
you
can
hook
the
ear
straps
on
see
on
your
favor
ears.
Those
things
seem
to
be
like
I've
heard
this
over
and
over
from
other
people
like
they're
they're,
a
thing
that
people
enjoy
that
one
there
I
think
will
be
to
get
into
hospitals
a
lot
easier
than
some
of
these
other
things.
D
C
D
Gonna
value
engineer
at
anyways
to
to
like
put
little
holes
in
it
to
save
on
the
plastic
in
the
print
time
fritter.
This
kind
of
that
same
end
or
you
could
maybe
even
just
3d
print
the
ends
and
make
you
go
on
some
other
material.
That's
a
normal,
strap
or
I
can
I
hear
you
there.
So
we
were
already
looking
at
value
engineering
and
maybe
I'll
look
at
some
other
thing.
The
only
problem
is
anything.
You
specify
ends
up
being
a
sourcing
problem,
another
right
right,
so
cool
I.
D
As
far
as
the
NAIOP
stuff
goes,
the
prayer
hand
is
so
damn
close,
I'm
so
close
on.
So
many
stupid
things.
This
is
really
it's.
It's
a
frustrating
time
right
now.
It's
just
everything's
busy
all
at
the
same
time,
but
like
it's
all
getting
dealt
with
slowly
but
surely,
but
there's
all
it's
like
a
game
show
with
all
these
different
stations
where
you
have
to
run
back
and
forth.
So
the
the
assembly
manuals
are
actually
a
lot
further,
along
than
you
guys
have
seen.
D
C
D
Worries
awesome
I
want
to
check
that
out,
though
okay,
so
I've
got
a
lot
of
it
done
for
the
elbow
the
helix
cuff,
the
XO
shoulder
and
the
regular
quadruped
cuff,
the
forearms
for
the
quad
I'm,
still
working
on
and
I
was
to
knock
the
hand
out
here
this
weekend
and
if
I
do
that,
and
the
QC
/,
the
nya
wrist
I
was
gonna.
Do
the
wrist
pin
and
the
QC
at
the
same
time,
because
the
wrist
bends
a
pretty
easy
version
of
the
QC.
D
The
worst
part
of
that
is
just
making
the
assembly
for
the
latches,
but
the
latches
keep
changing,
and
so
it's
kind
of
made
it
a
little
bit
of
a
moving
target
because
I
was
working
with
this
other
latch
and
then,
where
I
there's
it
can't
print
any
one
way
perfectly
the
way.
I
wanted
it
to
print
it.
You
need
to
use
on
support
and,
let's
use
the
support,
it
can
break
it
very
easily
once
you're
taking
it
apart.
So
I
tried
a
different
direction
and
just
it
it's
frustrating,
but
I
need
to
go
back.
D
C
D
D
So,
but
it's
self-contained
and
that's
what
I
really
like
about
it.
It's
spring-loaded
and
self-contained
and
looks
pretty
nice
too.
This
a
flexi
hand
I
was
saying
before
the
problem.
I
saw
at
the
Flexi
hand,
was
the
the
fasteners
in
the
knuckles,
though
those
connections
can
fall
out
the
sides
and
slide
out
the
sides,
but
the
way
she
had
it
set
up
it
looked
like
they
were
under
enough
tension.
D
I,
don't
think
they
actually
can
do
that,
because,
when
they're
under
tension
the
whole
time,
it
makes
it
a
lot
harder
for
things
to
slide
out,
especially
when
it's
pulled
in
two
directions.
So
I
am
thinking
that
would
be
an
awesome
one.
I'll,
take
her
design
and
put
the
Q
C
sleeve
inside
of
it.
So
then
that
thing
could
be
Q
seed
on
to
any
hand
and
we
can
swap
gripper
hands
and
the
flexi
hands,
and
then
I
should
have
a
koala
version
of
that.
D
Also,
here
out
of
thanks,
I've
got
all
the
parts
in
the
coil
Bionic
design
I
did
that
the
palm
split
up,
so
it
can
work
on
a
QC.
So
with
all
those
parts,
I
should
be
able
to
make
it
happen.
Pretty
quick,
but
that's
one
thing
I'd
like
to
do
with
that
and
Shawn
brought
that
to
a
point.
Shawn's
design,
then
also
with
the
Koala
Bionic
hand,
she's
making
me
one
is
gonna
get
shipped
here
might
be
on
the
way.
D
I
need
to
check
my
front
port,
so
nobody
loots
that
sucker
but
she's,
making
me
one
and
it's
a
Clow
hand
and
like
I,
was
saying
originally
with
the
spring
design.
Its
thumb
first
finger
and
then
these
three
fingers
are
on
another
on
a
little
whiffle
tree,
and
that
way
you
can
do
pinchy
pinchy
like
this
or
different
grips,
and
she
with
her
joystick
design,
it's
cool,
because
the
joystick
is
how
you
trigger
it
to
work.
So
it
doesn't
necessarily
work.
D
So
you
can
work
with
two
hands
at
the
same
time
and
release
and
grab
you'll
still
have
to
touch
it
like
this
to
hit
it.
But
the
joystick
is
really
cool
because
you
can
pump
the
joystick.
It's
like
a
game.
Stick
on
a
gaming
controller.
You
can
pop
the
joystick
for
a
fifth
function,
so
you
have
four
directions
and
a
pot
that
you
can
all
get
off
of
this
thing
and
she's
using
the
pop
function
to
shift
between
menus.
D
So
you
can
go
hand
and
grips
or
like
basically
grips
and
then
you'll
have
four
different
grip
positions
which
one
can
be
pinched
ones.
The
full
grip
and
one
is
hold
ones,
just
lock
it
in
and
hold
it,
and
one
was
incremental.
You
hit
it
each
time
until
it
closes
up
slowly
and
that
sounded
really
good
for
functionality
and
then
I
was
like
okay,
so
she
was
making
it
pop
on
pop
off.