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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting, September 11, 2020
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, September 11, 2020.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: https://bit.ly/2FoCN9x
A
Okay,
all
right
so
action
items
we'll
skip
the
ones
for
the
folks
that
aren't
here,
nate
still
got
some
to-do's
number
two
is
for
ben
to
promote
the
feedback
form.
I
I
think,
that's,
let's
see,
that's!
Oh
that's
right!
So
you
you
did
promote
it
on
in
the
main
forum,
but
I
think
you
were
still
going
to
add
it
into
the
actual
device
pages
on
the
device.
Catalog
is
that
right,
ben.
A
B
Okay,
last
week,
when
we
had
met,
I
had
modeled,
including
it
in
the
template
of
the
presentation,
but
haven't
put
it
in
the
hub.
Since
then,
it's
on
every
device
page
in
the
hub
at
the
bottom
there's
an
icon
and
a
link
that
goes
to
the
forum.
B
Bob
met
with
nate
and
I
this
week
to
look
over
it
and
I
think
it
was
really
helpful
to
get
his
experience
and
insights
about
adding
in
the
questions.
So
we
went
through
all
four
sections:
a
review
of
the
guide
itself,
the
production,
fabrication
process,
the
assembly
process
and
then
a
review
device
itself.
B
If
you
guys
want
to
take
that
same
link,
that's
in
the
notes,
the
feedback
about
naya
take
a
look
at
it
and
see
what
you
think,
but
I
think
we
got
to
a
point
where
nate
bob
and
I
were
happy
with
it
and
I
think
it's
pretty
cohesive.
It
covers
we
used
as
a
template.
C
A
A
Gonna,
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen
for
a
second,
because
I
had
some
feedback.
Today
I
was,
I
was
working
on
adding
in
the
new
niot
badges
and
I
actually
found
that
I
had
a
hard
time,
ironically,
finding
the
nyhab
documentation.
So
I
ended
up.
I
had
to
search-
and
I
couldn't
even
find
it
when
I
searched
for
niop
documentation.
A
It
was
only
when
I
searched
for
nate
monroe
that
I
finally
found
my
way
to
this
post
with
links
to
the
getting
started,
guide
and
links
to
the
home
page
and
the
device
wizard,
but
I
couldn't
find
like
one
central
document
that
you
could
just
go
through
to
access
all
the
documentation
when
I
went
to
the
device
when
I
went
to
the
device
catalog.
If
you
go
to
the
device
enable
devices
and
you
go
down
through
the
nyop
catalog
each
one
of
these.
So
let's
look
at
the
niop
hook
under
documentation
or
instructions.
A
A
So
I
think
that
again,
you
know
we
already
tasked
nate
with
having
an
overview.
So
when
you
click
on
niop
modules
notice
that
the
the
the
page
itself
is
empty,
so
you
could
have
a
the
niop
modules
page
up
top
here,
I
think,
should
basically
be
a
duplicate
of
what
he
has
here.
You
know
introducing
the
getting
started
guide
and
the
home
page
and
the
device
wizard,
and
all
that
I
you
know.
I
think
we
should
put
that
right
up
top
here
on
the
nyo
modules
page
and
then
link
back
to
that.
A
B
A
So
but
yeah,
maybe
it's
as
easy
as
just
copying
and
pasting.
What's
here,
I
didn't
know
if
we
wanted
to
do
something
more
visual,
but
that
would
be
a
fix
for
the
short-term
man.
B
That's
a
good
idea.
You
know
a
lot
of
this
stuff
because
it's
such
an
organic
development
of
this
ecosystem,
this
night
ecosystem
there's
a
lot
of
this
sort
of
iteration
of
reconnecting
the
big
picture
to
the
the
individual
stuff
right.
But
that's
that's
a
good
point.
I
think,
as
we
go
through
it
every
time
we
go
through
the
process.
If
we
see
a
missing
piece
that
helps
to
maintain
that.
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
just
think
I
think
nate
did
so
much
great
work
in
creating
this,
like
here's,
the
overview
of
the
system
and
here's
how
you
get
started
and
here's
where
and
yet
none
of
the
actual
devices
link
to
that
they
go
straight
to
the
you
know,
documentation
for
that
device.
I
think
we
want
everyone
to
start
on
the
getting
started.
You
know
pages
and
then
move
to
the
assembly
documentation
so
yeah
I'll
I'll
paste
that
stuff
into
the
the
top
page
there
on
the
nyop
modules
and
we'll
see.
If
that
helps.
C
A
B
B
A
B
For
as
a
test,
we
had
a
mod
fill
it
out,
mahmod
built
something
like
70
devices
and
his
feedback
is
really
helpful
in
you
know
he
had
a
couple
small
suggestions
about
things
we
could
change
in
the
form.
I
think
the
next
step
for
us
is
going
to
be
sending
it
to
everton.
B
And
maybe
sean
other
people
that
have
some
familiarity
with
this
and
then
doing
it
publicly
after
that.
A
Nice,
okay,
good
progress,
let's
see
next
one
is
about
nate
talking
to
sean,
we'll
skip
that,
and
then
we
come
to
number
five
bob
finding
a
candidate
for
our
video
concierge
session.
Any
new
candidates
bob.
D
Well,
we
have,
we
have
50
success.
Okay,
let
me
explain:
there
were
no
domestic
inquiries
on
the
help
desk,
so
no
nothing
where
we
could
go
through.
A
concierge
intake,
however,
did
have
one
come
in
internationally.
I
believe
was
algeria
and
I,
through
six
different
emails,
I
actually
walked
the
person
through
creating
the
case.
They
were
diligent,
they
did
it.
I
checked
ewc
and
gave
them
feedback
and
they
finally
created
the
case
upload
the
photos
and
we
have
a
volunteer
that
has
already
been
accepted.
A
D
A
A
D
A
D
C
That's
that's
an
important
insight.
It's
true
well
yeah.
A
I
mean
I'll.
Let
me
share
my
screen
again
I'll.
Tell
you
just
this
morning,
as
I
was
going
through
and
updating
stats.
I
I
thought
about
one
thing,
which
is
you
know
right
now
when
you
get
when
you
log
into
enableweb
central,
this
is
the
screen
you
come
to.
You
come
to
your
device
requests
home
page.
What
I'm
thinking
is
a
very
easy
fix
to
improve.
A
Things
might
be
to
make
the
home
make
a
new
home
page
where,
instead
of
having
everything
hidden
under
these
menus,
have
a
home
page
that
basically
has
nice
clear,
graphic
buttons
for,
like
here's
all
the
places
you
can
go
if
you're
looking
for
a
device,
if
you're
looking
to
volunteer
and
just
have
kind
of
almost
like
a
grid
layout,
where
you
can
see
everything
on
one
page
and
no,
you
know
just
click
to
get
where
you
need
to
go.
That's.
D
A
C
Well,
that's
great
if
you
should
also
point
out
that
the
select
language
button
is
available
top
right.
That's.
A
D
So,
let's
leave
it
open,
a
normal
page
would
be
great,
but
we'll
still
try
a
concierge
or
I
wonder
if
we
shouldn't
put
the
new
home
page
in
and
then
see
if
that
helps.
First.
A
A
Okay,
I
just
added
that
as
an
action
item
for
myself,
all
right,
good
I'll
I'll,
add
that
to
our
list
for
the
development
team,
so
moving
on
then
number
six
was
for
me
to
add
the
new
badges
for
the
niop
fabrication
assembly
and
that's
been
done
so
they're
added
in
the
hub
and
they're
added
in
badger.
A
I
basically
just
used
the
same
kind
of
criteria
that
we've
used
for
other
fabrication
and
assembly,
badges
photos
for
the
fabrication
and
a
video
for
the
assembly,
so
those
badges
are
added
and
ready
to
use.
Next
one
is
for
bob
to
give
me
the
details,
the
address
specifically
for
sequoia
high
school,
and
he
did
that
so
that's
done.
Then.
We
can.
D
I
will
post
in
the
forum
myself
on
the
night
of
the
15th,
that
we
have
this
new
repository.
Okay,
great,
okay,
the
question
is:
how
else
do
we
promote
that
the
template
has
to
be
changed.
A
Well,
so
we
could
use
that,
pin
post
that
we
have
in
the
hub
right
now.
You
know
just
maybe
that's
probably
time
to
revisit
what
we
have
in
that
pin
post
anyway
to
make
sure
that
it's
got
current
stuff
in
there.
B
Right,
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
coming
up
in
the
development
meetings
with
masby
is
is
using
that
pin
post
with
dynamic
content.
B
Great
so,
but.
A
A
I
already
changed
the
template,
so
in
the
help
desk
the
main,
actually
it
turns
out.
The
only
template
that
I
really
had
it
in
was
the
one
for
classrooms
looking
to
get
involved,
so
I
replaced
it
there
and
then
I
also
created
a
new
template
for
people.
Just
saying
hey:
where
can
I
send
this
completed
device
right?
So
now
there's
a
new
template
for
for
that.
So.
A
Oh
okay-
I
I
probably
didn't
see
it
because
that
you
probably
created
that
in
the
enable
web
central
category-
okay,
yeah-
I
was
in
the
enable
category,
so
I
probably
didn't
go
across
that
all
right,
so
yeah,
the
the
new
templates
are
updated,
so
we're
ready
to
start
directing
people
to
the
new
repository.
A
So
that's
number,
eight!
That's
done!
Number!
Nine
was
for
me
to
talk
to
the
ewc
developers
about
updating
the
device
inventory
page
to
include
some
stats,
so
it
hasn't
been
done
yet,
but
I've
added
it
to
our
development
task
list.
So
we
have
a.
We
have
a
platform
where
we
write
up
these.
These.
You
know
work
items
and
I've
added
it
to
that
and
set
it
as
a
high
priority.
So
it's
ready
for
them
to
to
execute
on
so
they're
going
to
be
adding
like
we
talked
about
in
the
device.
A
So
I
actually
moved
that
down
to
the
agenda
so
that
we
can
actually
have
some
discussion
on
that.
So
we'll
come
back
to
that.
In
a
short
while
here
looks
like
we
don't
have
scythe
today,
so
we'll
skip
that
I've
got
the
statistics
there
on
page
two.
The
only
notable
thing
to
comment
on
is
that
we
had
a
unusually
slow
week
on
the
hub.
We
had
one
new
member
registration
and
zero
posts
for
the
week,
which
is
a
record
for
us,
but
other
than
that.
Not
much
has
has
changed.
A
B
Say
I
think,
not
only
do
we
have
a
lot
of
new
posts,
but
masby
has
unleashed
this
enabled
bot
that
now
does
automatic
introduction
and
that's
where
people
are
from
that
was
posted
yesterday,
and
we
had,
I
think,
something
like
five
new
members
for
ethiopia.
One
produce
elab.
So
I
think
these
hub
data
statistics
are
off.
A
Actually
so
I
pulled
the
number
from
the
wrong
place,
because
this
shows
five
posts
here.
I
maybe
I
didn't
update
the
data,
so
disregard
I'll
update
the
spreadsheet.
We
had
five
posts
and
nine
new
users,
so
I
must
have
had
the
wrong
date
selected
or
something
I'll
go
back
and
update
that.
D
Okay,
so
you're
aware,
when
I
get
a
request,
that's
a
little
bit
unusual
on
the
help
desk.
My
typical
response
is
hey.
You
know
we
normally
don't
handle
this,
but
I
think
you
should
join
the
hub
and
I
think
you
should
post
it
in
the
forum
because
we
have
global
volunteers.
Yeah
couldn't
be
able
to
help
you.
A
Okay,
so
on
our
agenda,
I've
added
two
new
topics
at
the
top
that
we
can
touch
on
each
week,
which
is
for
lumio
discussions
and
proposals.
So
we
have
zero
active
discussions
or
proposals
right
now,
but
we
have
a
placeholder
for
that
in
the
future.
A
As
far
as
recent
lumio
discussions
and
proposals,
we've
got
the
one
that
I
wrote
up
for
modifying
the
lumio
voting
process
to
require
a
week
of
discussion
and
then
a
week
of
voting
that
has
been
approved
now.
So
I
now
need
to
go
in
and
update
our
lumio
voting
instructions
on
the
hub,
and
I
will
do
that-
haven't
done
that.
Yet
that's
on
the
the
item
above
john
you're,
you're,
writing
under
the
nyop
proposal
and
then
the
the
nyop
proposal
phase
three
from
nate
was
also
recently
approved.
A
So
I
just
noted
that
here
we
already
kind
of
touched
on
that
with
him,
but
those
were
the
two
recent
proposals,
so
I
just
put
them
in
here.
I
don't
know
anybody
have
any
questions
or
comments
about
the
the
latest.
One.
C
Yes,
for
those
who
haven't
been
following
closely
the
proposal
that
passed
this
week
now
institutionalizes
of
best
practice,
which
is
to
start
a
discussion
about
a
possible
proposal
and
let
it
percolate
and
drum
up
conversation
for
a
week
before,
actually
writing
a
proposal.
That's
right
during
that
period,
that
topic
will
be
an
active,
lumio
discussion
or
proposal,
and
it
will
be
discussed
here
in
spc,
hopefully
with
the
proposer.
That's.
B
I
think
in
in
that
light
today
the
discussion
we're
going
to
have
about
the
micro
grant
is
our
pre-proposal
discussion.
I
I'll
put
together
a
document
for
the
proposal
after
this,
but
I
think
this
is
our
our
time
to
try
out
this
model.
A
That's
good,
although
just
to
be
clear,
I
I
think
to
qualify.
As
you
know,
meeting
the
requirements
we've
agreed
on
here.
We
need
to
actually
write
it
up
in
lumio
and
have
a
discussion
thread
going
for
a
week
there
so
discussing
it
today
is
certainly
fine,
but
I
still
think
we
want
to
have
it
written
up
as
a
discussion
thread
before
we
start
the
proposal.
A
Good
deal,
okay,
so
next
topic
enable
con
2020.
we've
had
some
discussions
recently.
We
had,
you
know
kind
of
been
going
in
the
direction
of
just
skipping
it
this
year
in
light
of
the
pandemic,
but
now
it
seems
to
be
back
on
the
the
radar
as
as
maria
is
apparently
planning
a
virtual,
enable
con
to
be
held
october
10th
through
the
12th
and
then
also
continuing
into
the
two
weeks
following.
A
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
detail
yet
on
individual
sessions
or
speakers
or
any
of
that,
but
she
says
that
that
will
be
coming
soon.
So
we
hope
to
get
a
web
page
that
lists
out
the
schedule
and
sign
up
instructions
and
all
that
once
we
have
that
web
page,
we
will
promote
that
through
the
hub
and
through
our
email
newsletter
only
a
month
away.
A
That's
correct,
that's
correct,
but
we
don't
have
the
details.
Yet
we
just
found
out
about
that
this
week.
If
we
get
the
details,
we'll
promote
it,
that's
all
I
can
say:
sessions
are
going
to
be
recorded
and
captions
are
apparently
going
to
be
translated
into
multiple
languages,
at
least
that's
the
plan.
A
We
also
had
a
call
this
week
with
a
group
in
brazil
that
everton
is
working
with
and
I'm
sorry
I
couldn't
remember
the
name.
I
don't
know
if
you
do
john,
but
this
is
a
group
that
is
loosely
affiliated.
They
they
have
some
some
compatible
goals
and
mission
in
terms
of
of
of
what
they
focus
on,
and
so
we
actually
have
some
enable
related
sessions
that
will
be
occurring
as
part
of
this
virtual
conference.
A
So
their
conference
is
going
to
be
in
december.
They
already
have
apparently
five
enable
related
sessions
planned.
I
know
that
maria
talked
about
getting
them.
A
sixth
and
john
talked
about
getting
them
one,
so
there
might
be
seven
or
more
enable
related
sessions
which
may
or
may
not
be
broken
out
into
a
separate,
enable
track,
and
they
also
have
plans
to
take
these
recorded
presentations.
A
Put
captions
on
them,
translate
them
into
multiple
languages.
So
this
could
be
a
really
big
step
forward
towards
our
internationalization
aspirations
because
of
the
work
involved
in
getting
the
captioning
and
translations
done.
The
deadline
for
getting
them
recorded
presentations
is
october
3rd,
even
though
it's
a
an
event
happening
in
december.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
contribute
to
this
october
3rd
is
when
we've
got
to
get
them
our
recordings
so
that
they
can
be
included.
A
So
we
kind
of
have
these
two
possible
things
emerging
that
could
represent
an
enable
con
2020
with
that
I'll
open
it
up
for
discussion.
C
So
I
did
announce
my
intention
to
create
a
video
suitable
for
submission
to
the
brazilian
conference
and
for
presentation
at
enable.com
the
planning
deadline.
The
writing
deadline
is
roughly
the
same
for
the
two
of
them.
If
enable
con
is
going
to
be
the
eighth,
you
ought
to
have
your
act
together
by
the
third,
and,
if
you
have
your
act
together
by
the
third
in
a
you
know,
zoom
compatible
format.
C
Speaking
of
that,
my
I
I
thought
I
would
give
you
know,
sort
of
a
high-level
talk
that
I've
been
cooking
for
a
long
time
about
our
non-organizational
strategy.
But
it
occurs
to
me
during
this
meeting
that
a
presentation
about
the
mechanics
of
enable
as
brokered
by
spc
that
talks
fairly
specifically
about
lumio
proposals
and
about
the
enable
fund
and
about
the
hub
and
about
our
communications
coordinator.
We
have
at
and
bob
all
of
bob's
work.
We
have
a
fairly
rich
yeah,
enable
specific
infrastructure.
C
And
and
that,
for
example,
yeah.
But
that's
a
story
that,
frankly
only
we
sort
of
understand.
It's
a
really
good
moment
to
think
about
a
structured
presentation.
That
includes
which
is
enable,
which
is
specific
to
enable.
A
And
I'm
sure
you
would
do
this
john,
but
if
you
give
that
talk,
I
I
would
ask
please
make
it
clear
that
you
know
from
the
beginning
when
we
started
the
strategic
planning
committee,
our
our
goal
or
intention
was
never
to
try
to
manage
or
control
or
anything
like
that.
Our
goal
has
always
been
to
support
the
ongoing
growth
of
the
community
to
facilitate
to
free
up
roadblocks.
You
know,
that's
always
been
our
aim.
A
A
C
Fine,
I
could
do
it
but
yeah,
then
it
sort
of
falls
back
into
the
john's
delusions
of
adequacy
category,
and
in
fact
this
goes
on
this.
This
this
actually
works.
I'm
proud
to
say,
independent
of
john,
for
the
most
part
ben
has
something
he
wanted
to
say.
B
Yeah,
I
was
gonna
just
jump
in
and
mention
that
I
think
an
alternative
way
to
approach
this
instead
of
thinking
about
summarizing
cohesively.
What
the
sbc
and
all
these
different
sort
of
organs
of
enable
have
developed
into,
I
think
approaching
it
as
a
question
and
trying
to
learn
more
about
the
enable
alliance
and
all
these
sort
of
other
kind
of
these
are
organs
that
are
outside
of
some
of
our
activities.
B
But
I'd
love
to
learn
more
about
them,
and
I've
talked
to
maria
and
just
gotten
small
glimpses
of
what
is
involves.
But
I
think,
if
we
can
maybe
have
it
more
of
a
discussion.
If
we
can
think
of
specific
questions
that
we
would
like
to
explore
with
the
community
at
enable
con,
it
would
be.
A
B
Right
so
I
think
it
would
be
something
that
might
inform
the
brazilian
conference
in
terms
of
some
of
the
things
that
that
could
be
responded
to,
but
I
think
you
know
it's
different
in
different
countries
too.
I
mean
there's
sort
of
these
regional
structures.
B
You
know
in
europe
there
is
there's
sort
of
different
hubs
that
that
are
involved
in
organizing
things.
I
think
it
could
be
really
interesting
to
create
some
questions
for
the
community
and
then
maybe
try
to
use
the
opportunity
of
enablicon
to
try
to
drill
out
some
more
specifics
about
the
enable
alliance
and
just
well.
A
I
think
you're
doing
what
it
seems
to
me
that
it
could
be
both.
I
mean,
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
to
educate
people
on
what
we've
been
doing,
what
we
have
in
place,
how
things
are
working,
what
our
goals
are
and
then
open
it
up
to
questions
about.
You
know
how
we
can
further
improve
things
or
what
other
entities
are
doing
etc.
So
we
might
cover
both
aspects.
I'd
say,
let's
have
a
separate
meeting
to
discuss
this.
You
know
with
you
included
ben
as
well
as
john
and
myself.
C
Yeah
I
like
ben's
idea.
I
just
want
to
suggest
that
a
version
of
it
might
be
to
talk
about
several
enable
organizational
schemes,
I'm
sort
of
thinking
about
it,
a
table
with
a
column
for
the
sp
c,
ewc
megalith,
and
one
for
enable
france,
which
I
think
is
well
documented
and
quite
organizational,
and
ideally
one
for
enable
alliance
and
ideally
one
for
something
quite
different,
just
to
show
the
range
of
them,
but
that
there
are
established
organizational
schemes.
B
You
know,
I
think
it
does
begin
to
shine
light
on
how
things
are
working
in
parallel
and
and
what
you
know
maybe
could
be
considered
in.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
think,
that's
the
idea.
What's
nice
about
doing
like
a
table
layout
like
john
suggested
is
it
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
do
a
comparative
gap
assessment
and
look
at
what
each
of
these
entities
is
doing,
that
some
of
the
others
might
not
be
doing,
and
what
are
they
doing
that
we're
not
doing,
and
you
know.
C
B
A
C
C
Friends,
this
model
under
this
model,
if
you
would
represent
you,
know
spc
slash,
ewc,
slash,
lumio,.
A
C
Then
that's
great
you're
responsible
for
that
column.
Sure,
okay,
I
or
someone
else
could
cover
other
columns
and
someone
for
the
would
moderate.
Okay.
A
Yeah
sounds
good
I'll
I'll
schedule
up
something
for
the
three
of
us
and
we'll
see
we
come
up
with
okay,
so
any
other
comments
or
thoughts
on
enable
con
possibilities.
A
Okay,
moving
on
collection,
qa
and
distribution
of
devices,
so
we
made
good
progress
this
week.
Sequoia
high
school
is
all
set
up
as
a
collection
center.
Bob
documented
some
nice
instructions
which
I
link
to
here
in
the
notes
feel
free
to
check
them
out,
but
I
think
they're
all
ready
to
go
and,
as
bob
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
call
he's
already
shipped
off
a
box
or
boxes
of
devices
to
them,
I
think
I'm
going
to
do
the
same.
A
I've
got
boxes
of
devices
from
some
recent
handathons
here,
I'm
going
to
send
them
their
way,
so
they
can
check
them
over
and
we'll
have
a
nice
starting
inventory.
They
are
they're
going
to.
After
doing
the
qa
checks
to
make
sure
the
devices
are
good
to
go,
they'll
actually
be
adding
those
into
the
device
inventory
in
enable
web
central
so
that
they
will
be
accessible.
A
A
So
thanks
for
taking
care
of
that
bob
all
right.
So
that
brings
us
to
our
discussion
of
a
simplified
funding
process
for
many
grants,
and
I
linked
here
to
the
centralized
funds
document
that
ben
put
together
as
well
as
the
backgrounder
document
that
john
put
together-
and
we
can
have
some
discussion
about
that.
I
I
will
say
having
reviewed
them
myself,
john's
backgrounder
was
was
helpful
to
me
and
kind
of
understanding.
A
A
I
I
think
at
this
point
ben
it
might
be
helpful
to
have
you
kind
of
give
us
more
of
a
description
of
what
it
is
that
you're
proposing,
because
I
I
read
through
the
centralized
funds
document,
I
still
came
away
struggling
a
little
bit
to
have
a
clear
sense
of
okay.
What
are
we
proposing
here
so
is
that
something
you
can
sum
up.
B
Yep
and
actually
the
just
to
clarify
too
the
centralized
enable
funds
wasn't
intended
to
propose
anything.
It
was
aiming
at
trying
to
figure
out.
Where
are
we
right
now.
B
What
are
we
facing,
what
what
opportunities
are
sort
of.
B
Well,
one
thing
that
has
come
up,
I
think,
even
in
these
last
couple
of
lumia
proposals
is
that
it's
set
up
for
larger
projects.
B
It
involves
a
process,
but
it's
not.
It
hasn't
been
used
for
specific
chapters
and
it
it's
sort
of
a
one.
Well,
it's
sort
of
an
organizational
model,
so
bob
has
been
doing
great
work
in
bringing
in
grants.
You
know
these
these
funding
streams
outside
of
the
enable
community
and
then
that's
sort
of
siphoned
toward
these
different
projects.
So
it's
sort
of
this
one
way.
B
I
think
what
would
be
really
helpful
in
our
community
is
a
separate
fund,
non-tax
deductible,
which
makes
it
a
lot
easier
for
management
of,
I
guess
more
transactions,
something
that
we
can
limit
to
chapters.
Only,
I
think,
is
a
good
place
to
start
in
terms
of
resource
sharing.
You
know
basically
saying
one
chapter
raises
his
hand
and
says
you
know:
I'm
going
to
shut
the
doors
if
I
don't
come
up
with
500
by
the
end
of
the
month.
B
This
is
what's
going
on
in
you
know,
panama
or
whatever,
and
it
allows
for
not
just
funds
to
go
to
panama,
but
also
funds
to
come
in.
So
you
could
have
other
chapters
that
put
in
twenty
dollars
or
thirty
dollars
or
whatever
into
that
fund
to
support
that
need.
B
So
what
we
looked
at
is
you
know,
maybe
getting
john's
help
to
create
a
separate
account.
Terry
sanor
is
has
volunteered
to
manage
it.
So,
in
terms
of
you
know,
a
transparent
process
of
bookkeeping
and
masby
is
on
board
to
help
design
a
toolkit
so
sort
of,
like
the
automatic
bot
that
we
have
for
introductions
in
the
hub
he's
he's
interested
in
creating
automatic
reports,
potentially
in
the
pin,
post
and
uh-huh
that
basically
say
this
week.
B
There
was
you
know,
three
requests
from
these
chapters,
and
this
this
is
sort
of
the
activity,
would
still
involve
some
kind
of
review
process.
I
mean
the
people
within
the
community
like
the
chapter
needs.
Space
would
be
sort
of
voting
on
on
how
to
use
the
funds,
so
we'd
have
to
come
up
with
sort
of
a
like
lumio
a
process,
but
I
think
the
idea
would
be.
B
This
guy
needs
a
printer,
that's
a
perfect
example
of
what
this
micro
grant
would
be
designed
for.
So
what
I'm
doing?
I
sent
an
email
to
you
guys
about
it
already,
but
I
did
a
little
bit
of
background.
Looked
at
the
other
chapters
around
the
red
sea,
we've
got
some
in
qatar,
we've
got
some
saudi
arabia.
B
We've
got
a
couple
in
egypt,
so
I
created
an
email
for
them,
basically
giving
them
a
summary
of
the
situation
and
seeing
if
they
have
any
ability
to
partnership
with
this
school,
and
this
teacher
and
ahmad
is
going
to
translate
it
into
arabic
for
them,
and
he
also
has
a
personal
relationship
with
one
of
the
chapter
leaders.
So
we
can
do
this
individually,
but
I
think
having
a
process,
for
it
would
be
wonderful.
A
Well,
so,
having
heard
what
you've
said,
I
mean
my
initial
impression
is
I
I
completely
agree
with
the
need
for
a
lighter
weight.
You
know
process
for
getting
smaller
amounts
of
money.
I
question
whether
we
need
a
separate
fund
for
this.
It
seems
like
that
might
complicate
things.
Could
we
not
leverage
our
existing
enable
fund
and
simply
create
a
new
process
that
makes
it
easier
for
people
to
get
small
amounts
of
money
from
that
fund?.
C
Right,
so
that
was
the
the
burden
of
my
background
was
to
try
to
explain
that-
and
this
wasn't
clear
to
me
when,
when
I
agreed
to
to
set
up
the
enable
fund
is
that
the
burdens
of
accounting
for
a
pool
of
tax
deductible
funding
are
not
trivial
I'll.
You
know
in
in
general,
you
want
to
be
able
to
account
for
every
expenditure
and
for
that
matter,
every
donation,
the
donations
isn't
hard.
C
The
expenditures
is
actually
pretty
pretty
labor-intensive
now
bob
and
I
are
now
have
improved
our
process
and
martin,
the
cfo
of
rochester,
enable
limited,
but
the
accounting
burdens
for
501
c
3
are
are,
are
not
trivial,
and
so
from
that
point
of
view
it's
been
a
good
thing
that
lumio
proposals
have
been
intimidating
enough,
that
we've
only
that
we've
been
dealing
with
substantial
amounts
of
money
where
it's
worth
putting
in
that
kind
of
time.
C
Well,
that's
right
and
you
have
for
each
proposal.
You
have
two
or
three
payouts.
C
Of
a
bunch
of
let's
say
some
thousand
dollar
transactions,
okay.
So
having
pushed
back
on
the
perfectly
reasonable
notion
that
there
should
be
a
lighter
weight
process,
it
occurs
to
me
that
for
a
lighter
weight
process,
we
want
to
do
something
that
does
not
claim
to
be
a
tax
deductible
501c3.
C
In
the
extreme
case,
you
know
people
are
free
to
send
money
to
each
other
with
zero
accounting
burden.
We
want
to
come
up
with
something
that
has
the
same
sort
of.
B
Right
and
it's
transparent
too,
I
think,
is
important.
I
think
the
problem
with
what's
happened
in
the
past
is
that
you
know
you
can
have
people
supporting
each
other,
but
it
doesn't
build
any
kind
of
critical
momentum
if
it's
just
one
exchange
like
this
email
that
I'm
going
to
be
sending
out
to
all
the
chapters
on
the
red
sea,
I
can
write
a
story
about
it.
Maybe,
but
imagine
if
you
could
get
sort
of
that
kind
of
inspiring
of
a
response
based
on
something
that's
just
happening
out
in
the
open.
So.
C
In
the
extreme
case
you
know
so
so
the
the
requirements
for
government
trust
are
well
documented
and
highly
formalized.
C
If
mother
teresa
were
available
to
manage
a
paypal
account,
then
you
know
people
could
send
donations
to
that
paypal
account.
Mother
teresa
could
send
the
payments
out
to
the
people.
Everyone
would
be
happy.
Unfortunately,
mother
teresa
is
not
available.
So
that's
what
we're
sort
of
looking
forward
to.
A
And
I
think
you
know
individuals
would
probably
be
fine,
saying
yeah
I'll,
donate
50
bucks
to
that
I
don't
care.
If
I
get
a
tax
deduction,
but
it
might,
it
might
be
more
of
a
deterrent
for
organizational
support,
so
it
might
make
it
harder
to
actually
get
people
to
fund
this
like
I'll,
make
a
ten
thousand
dollar
donation.
You
know
right.
That
probably
won't
happen
if
it's
not
taxed.
B
Well,
that's
right!
That
is
on
purpose.
Actually
I
mean
we
have
the
enable
fund
for
that
so
enable
fund
and
the
the
illumio
process
is
perfect
for
that
kind
of
relationship
getting
outside
funds
and
then
supporting
these
internal
initiatives.
But
what
we're
looking
for
is
money
that
goes
in
and
out.
A
So
I
I
love
the
idea,
but
that
that
means
that,
in
order
for
this
to
work,
it
relies
upon
basically
micro
funding
from
within
the
enable
community
for
the
most
part,
so
chapters
putting
money
into
this
individual
volunteers
putting
money
into
this
right.
I
I
kind
of
wonder
if
that
would
actually
happen.
C
Let
me
interrupt
for
a
second
first
of
all.
That
is
true,
and
the
model
for
this
thing
ought
to
be
something
that,
for
example,
chapters
contribute
to,
and
chapters
draw
from.
It's
like
a.
I
don't
know
what
it's
like.
It's
it's
like
that,
however,
once
that
structure
exists,
I
don't
see
why
the
administrators,
mother
teresa
and
her
helpmates
couldn't
write
a
proposal
to
the
enable
fund
saying
we
would
like
two
thousand
dollars
to
seed
this
venture.
C
We
hope
to
be
able
to
struck
it
structure
it
and
have
it
be
self-sustaining,
but
at
that
point
the
community
decides
to
make
a
grant
to
whoever
is
in
question
to
run
this
thing.
C
A
We
could
certainly
do
that,
but
that
would
be
kind
of
a
one-time
thing.
I
mean
when
you
look
at
the
bigger
picture
on
an
ongoing
basis.
You
want
this
thing
to
be
sustainable,
so
you
you
are
coming
back
to
wanting
chapters
and
volunteers
to
contribute
and
I'm
just
challenging
us
based
on
our
history.
A
That's
not
really
the
way
things
have
gone.
I
mean
chapters
tend
to
kind
of
focus
on
what's
happening
in
their
own
area
and
they
haven't
really
been
too
actively
engaged
in
these
kind
of
global
mechanisms
to
support
you
know,
chapters
and
folks
outside
of
their
area.
So
I
just
I
wonder
if
chapters
that
are
already
struggling,
they
they
already
need
help.
A
D
I
think
the
average
volunteer
already
and
whether
it
be
a
chapter
or
an
individual,
the
average
volunteer
is
saying:
hey,
I'm
already
supporting
enable
with
my
own
devices
I
buy
my
own
filament.
I
bought
my
own
printer.
I
buy
my
own
kits.
I
support
it
now
you're
asking
me
for
more
money
and
some
people
may
have
it
and
some
people
may
not.
As
always,
it
gets
down
to
the
funding
right.
A
B
You
know
that
one
of
the
interesting
things
that
I
think
is
worth
recognizing
is
we
haven't,
had
a
transparent
way
to
connect
people
that
are
well.
How
can
I
put
this
right?
B
Terry
is
really
interested
in
this
project
and
process,
partly
because
she
has
a
grandson
who
is
getting
a
device
she
wants
to
contribute
not
just
to
enabling
the
future,
but
she
wants
to
contribute
specifically
to
that
chapter
covering
their
materials
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
I
think
there
are
people
that
have
been
interested
in
supporting
specific
kinds
of
growth
within
some
of
the
different
chapters
and
having.
A
B
She
wants
to
do
which-
which
I
think
has
been
you
know.
Conversations
with
her
have
been
really
helpful.
She
wants
to
be
able
to
if
that
chapter
can
post
and
say
we
need
200
to
cover
materials
for
this
project
she
will
put
in
the
200
for
covering
those
materials,
because
she
knows
that
they're
helping
her
grandson
she's
got
money
specifically
that
she
wants
to
support
that
chapter,
but
also
she's
encouraged
by
nate's
work.
B
She
wants
to
be
able
to
put
funds
in
that
support
chapters
that
are
maybe
doing
you
know
nia
prints
for
the
first
time,
and
they
said
the
other
thing
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
that
would.
B
It
could
be
like
john
mentioned
seating.
It.
I
think,
that's
not
a
bad
idea
because,
for
example,
somebody
might
say
I
need
500
per
printer.
Everybody
might
agree
that
you
know
we
don't
have
any
chapters
in
ethiopia
and
this
guy,
you
know,
has
got
a
training
in
it.
This
is
a
great
opportunity,
but
maybe
the
red
sea
chapters
only
put
in
320.
A
B
Well-
and
I
think
it
can
be-
we
can
have
some
of
that
to
bring
people
in,
but
I
think
the
money
that
comes
in
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
be
earmarked.
So
we
could
bring
in
money
for
each
of
those
projects
to
this
new
fund
and
then
the
ones
that
are
approved,
even
if
they
get
more
money
that
come
in
based
on
that
need
that
extra
money
could
go.
A
Well,
that's
where
it
gets
a
little
tricky,
though
right
I
mean
if
we
make
it
so
that
people
can
donate
and
choose
which
of
these
requests.
They
want
their
money
to
go
to
that's
easy.
We
know
exactly
where
that
money
goes.
If
we
also
have
kind
of
a
general
collection
of
funds
sitting
there,
then
you
have
to
look
at
okay.
How
do
you
decide
which
of
these
requests
to
support
with
that
money?.
C
Well,
so,
once
upon
a
time,
we
did
post
in
the
hub
an
idea
that
we
would
just
have
a
discussion
in
a
hub
channel
for
a
specific
micro
funding
request,
and
when
consensus
was
achieved
it
would
it
would.
It
would
be
done
if
that
works
great
and
it
it
might
work.
If
you
had
an
administrator
who
was
trustworthy,
had
a
process
that
was
open
and
money
that
was
moving
around,
but
I
think
jeremy's.
So
I've
got
two
things
I
want
to
say.
One
is,
I
think,
jeremy's
point
is
a
really
good
one.
C
C
B
Yeah
I'll
be
really
quick,
but
I
I
think
if
we
can
have
a
shared
pot,
that
is
this
new
fund.
I
think
it
may
make
it
a
lot
easier
for,
if
something's
approved
for
a
certain
amount
of
money,
that's
what
they
get.
The
problem
is:
if
we,
you
know,
if
somebody
has
this
this
need,
and
then
you
get
a
lot
more
money,
do
they
get
more
money
if
they
get
not
the
full
amount,
do
you
just
give
them
less?
I
think.
A
A
Maybe
the
way
to
do
this
is
to
say
that
you
cannot
donate
to
this
fund
without
allocating
it
to
a
specific
request
so
that
the
first
request
might
be
from
a
chapter
that
needs
a
printer.
They
need
three
hundred
dollars
for
that.
I
could
donate
three
hundred
dollars,
but
you
can't
donate
more
than
the
requests
that
are
there
and
that
way
you
never
have
this
challenge
of
figuring
out.
A
Where
funds
go,
I
mean
we're
not
going
to
have
a
problem
with
having
enough
requests,
if
you,
if
you
reach
out
to
the
community
and
figure
out
what
and
invite
people
to
submit
these
requests-
and
you
end
up
with
a
starting
list
of
say,
10
requests.
You
know
totaling
several
thousand
dollars.
I
don't
know
that.
There's
any
reason
to
invite
people
to
donate
money
to
the
general
fund.
You
could
say:
donate
money
choose
where
you
want
that
money
to
go
end
of
story.
You
know,
and
that
way
it's
always
allocated
to
a
specific
request.
B
There's
something
that
seems
like
it
could
be
potentially
limiting
in
that
process,
because
those
are
puzzle,
pieces
that
need
to
fit
together
perfectly
and
I
think
the
reality
is
going
to
be.
Some
things
are
going
to
be
short
and
some
things
are
going
to
get
a
lot
more
attention.
I
think,
if,
if
the
whole
purpose
of
this,
you
know
and
again,
I
think
the
container
of
this
this
sub
community
project
for
funding
is
chapters,
and
I
think
that's
actually
something
that
masby
and
I
have
really
aligned
on
in
terms
of
the
vision
is.
B
A
Then
I
would,
I
just
have
to
point
out:
I
I
mean
this
not
to
make
this
personal,
but
I'm
pretty
confident
that
I
have
donated
more
out
of
pocket
money
to
the
enabled
community
than
any
chapter
in
the
world.
I
mean
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars.
You
know
that
I
have
not
requested
reimbursement
for
I'm
not
sure
why
I
should
be
disqualified
from
a
process
just
because
I'm
not
part
of
a
chapter.
B
A
B
That
ties
into
this
process-
you
know
if
we
can
have
this
audit
system,
also
be
connected
to
this
fun
sharing.
I
think
the
first
step
you
know
again.
I
don't
think
this
is
the
goal,
but
the
first
step
is
is
focusing
on
chapters
and
then
growing
from
that
seems
like
a
way
to
kind
of
limit
the
scope
and
figure
out
what's
working
and
not
working
and
then
opening
up
the
floodgates.
C
So
this
is
this.
I
think
this
is
a
good
and
helpful
discussion
and
clearly
it's
not
cooked
we're
just
doing
the
work.
So
that's
fine,
so
I
had
two
fingers
up
because
I
had
two
different
points.
One
is
jeremy.
I'm
not
sure
that
if
you
have,
if
you
say,
let's
not
have
a
micro
grant
fund,
you're
gonna
have
to
write
some
specific
text
to
prevent
people
from
proposing
a
micro
grant
to
create
a
general
microgrant
fund.
C
The
point
is
it's
right:
it's
it's
something
someone
could
say
hey.
I
think
we
need
one
of
these.
I
want
to
do
it.
I
want
a
microgrant
of
500
and
I'll
use
it
to
to
do
something
according
to
this
process,
I
don't
think
that's
a
bad
thing.
I
think
that
people
can
say:
let's
give
it
a
try,
I'm
going
to
put
ten
dollars
into
this
micro
micro
grant
fund
or
not.
That's.
A
C
A
No,
I'm
just
saying
that
you
need
to,
but
you
need
to
think
about
the
complexity
that
gets
added
to
the
process
when
you
open
up
that
option
of
having
money
sitting
in
a
fund
that
hasn't
been
specifically
allocated.
Is
that
added
complexity
worth
the
maybe
small
increase
in
funding
you're
going
to
get
compared
to
the
alternative
of
just
inviting
people
to
support
specific
needs.
D
A
B
Other
way
to
solve
anything
and
that
kind
of
stuff
could
be
involved.
You
know-
and
I
I
think,
just
to
sort
of
agree
with
the
argument
and
the
counter
argument
that
we're
making
here
I
see
what
we're
talking
about
is
two
parts
of
the
same
process.
B
So
I
just
imagine
that
if
you
imagine
water,
you
know
going
through
a
system,
it
goes
through
a
shared
pool
to
get
to
some
of
these
specific
projects,
and-
and
it's
not
something
that
I
think
having
that
shared
pool
just
makes
it
really
clear
that
all
this
stuff
is
connected,
but
it
does
it.
I
don't
see
it
as
one
or
the
other.
I
see
it
as
just
sort
of
a
a
riverway
of
shared
funds
that
we're
basically
trying
to
you
know
channel.
I.
A
The
devil
is
going
to
be
in
the
details
and
I'm-
and
I
I
always
you
know,
I'm
always
hesitant
when
it
comes
to
complexity,
because
complexity
stands
in
the
way
of
making
things
work.
I
think
you
need
to
keep
it
simple
so
that
people
will
adopt
it.
You
need
to
make
it
easy
to
understand
easy
to
work
with.
That's
all
I'm
proposing
that's.
C
A
great
point:
that's
right!
No,
I'm
with
you.
My
other
finger
was
to
point
out
that,
in
fact,
I
think
it
is
a
common
pattern
for
chapters
to
support
other
chapters.
C
I
know
that
naval
france
has
spawned
several
chapters
in
africa
and
I
believe
that
lowell
university
in
massachusetts
helped
to
develop
a
chapter
in
a
program
elsewhere
and.
C
Organically
and
it's
all
under
the
radar,
this
might
be
a
way
of
trying
to
surface
which
brings
me
to
my
third
finger,
which
is
that
one
of
the
another
parameter
that
we're
still
arguing
over
is
to
what
extent
should
it
be
related
to
or
restricted
to
chapters
again.
I
I
don't
think
we
need
to
settle
that
right
now.
I
think
it's
clear
that
there
are
pros
and
cons,
but
one
of
the
relevant
issues
is
that
if
we
can
structure
this,
so
it's
one
of
its
functions
is
to
encourage
and
document
chapter
alliances.
B
Right-
and
I
think
the
support
of
this
kind
of
a
system
to
these
audits
would
be
incredible,
I
mean
obviously,
let's
say
ethiopia
gets
a
printer.
Let's
say
the
fund
that
we're
imagining
covers
the
shipping
some
chapter
somewhere
in
central
asia
has
a
printer
they're
going
to
send
it,
but
they
get
the
funds
covered
through
this
to
do
the
shipping.
B
What
is
the
the
return
from
this
new
chapter
in
ethiopia
and
I
think,
trying
to
figure
out
you
know
what
would
be
an
even
trade.
You
know
what
do
we
need
back
from
them?
You
know
in
terms
of
documentation,
there
would
be
a
process
so
trying
to
think
about
what
that
process.
What
is
the
return?
If
you
get
some
support?
What
do
you
give
back
and
I
think
what
masby
and
I
were
or
aligning
on?
Is
this
idea
of
you
get
back
some?
B
You
know
not
just
a
story
but
a
report.
You
know
you
get
back
some
activity
and
that
could
be
a
really
wonderful
way
of
beginning
to
within
the
community,
encourage
this
kind
of
reporting
and
this
kind
of
transparency.
B
C
Right
right:
well,
I
I
will
note
that
it's
after
the
hour,
yeah.
A
C
D
Yeah,
so
we
were
expecting
the
meeting
to
start
at
1
p.m.
Here
in
brazil,
what
was
12
p.m?
In
fact,
we
messed
up
the
time.