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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting - January 22, 2021
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, January 22, 2021.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: http://bit.ly/3qDg4IG
A
Okay,
we
are
recording
morning,
everyone,
okay,
so
everyone
have
the
notes
document
up.
Hopefully
let
me
see
only
have
a
couple
of
action
items.
Ben
is
working
on
collecting
photos
of
people
wearing
various
types
of
enabled
devices.
Have
you
had
any
success?
Ben.
B
You
know
I
I
did
send
that
email.
I
think
I
mentioned
the
last
time
to
all
the
folks
that
have
shared
a
chapter
spotlight.
The
only
one
who's
provided
a
specific
link
is
istanbul,
but
I'll
follow
up.
I
gave
them
a
little
bit
of
time.
I
think
I
just
sent
it
out
the
during
the
last
meeting,
so
I'll
I'll
follow
up
with
them.
Today
sounds
good.
A
A
Yeah,
absolutely
that's
good
that
we
have
that
guidance.
The
next
two
were
mine.
I
was
to
send
the
non-flexible
parts
for
the
kinetic
hands
to
bob,
which
I
did
so
that
it
sounds
like
they're
in
transit.
Now
it
should
get
to
them
any
day.
So
that's
going
to
be
for
the
hands
he
printed,
the
flexible
parts
he's
going
to
do
the
assembly
we're
going
to
have
four
fully
assembled
kinetic
hands
that
can
go
into
these.
Thank
you
bags
for
donors.
A
A
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
really
worth
calling
attention
to,
except
for
the
fact
that
we
had
22
new
hub
registrations
this
week,
which
is
quite
a
lot
for
one
week,
but
otherwise
pretty
typical
activity
levels
so
on
we
go
to
our
agenda,
whatever
that
is
page
three
or
four,
so
active
lumia
discussions
and
or
proposals.
So
right
now,
I
think
we
only
have
one
up
there,
which
is
the
one
that
john
wrote
up
for
the
ongoing
media
coordination
fellowship.
A
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
go
in
and
review
that
this
morning,
so
john
or
ben
do
either
of
you
kind
of
want
to
give
us
an
update
on
where
that
discussion
stands
and
has
it
been
a
week?
Are
we
ready
to
you
know
flip
it
into
a
voting
scenario.
B
Yeah
I
can
give
a
quick
update.
We've
had
a
number
of
responses,
which
is
great
some
suggestions.
I
think
it
is
a
good
time
to
flip
it
into
a
proposal.
I
think
we've
had,
let's
see
so
13
responses
and
and
overwhelming
support
for
the
idea.
You
know
some
people
said
you
know.
How
are
we
gonna
make
sure
that
you
know
the
evaluation
is?
Is
there
to
support?
B
You
know
this
process
and
you
know
they
wanna
hear
specifically
how
the
spc
can,
you
know,
basically
provide
oversight,
so
there
are
some
things
that
would
be
worth,
maybe
adding
to
it
before
we.
We
open
it
up
to
a
vote.
So
perhaps
john
and
I
can
touch
on
that
monday
when
we
meet
for
our
meeting
and
we
can
add
in,
we
can
review
the
comments
and
then
add
in
a
couple
things
based
on
that
feedback.
B
A
And
then,
after
you
make
those
changes,
you'll
go
ahead
and
start
the
voting
process.
Is
that
the
plan
yeah
very
good?
I
you
know,
I
I
think
the
the
idea
of
having
people
who
have
had
approved
projects
in
lumio
show
up
to
one
or
more
spc
meetings
is
a
really
good
idea
to
help
with
accountability
and
oversight.
A
You
know
I
I
don't
know
we
have
to
think
about
when
and
how
we
do
that
you
know
we
could
do
it
kind
of
towards
the
end
of
a
project
where
they
kind
of
talk
to
us
about
the
results
and
and
kind
of
do
it
as
a
wrap-up
thing
and
talk
to
us
about
what
they
got
done,
and
you
know
use
that
as
an
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
we
actually
accomplish
what
they
were.
A
You
know
what
they
said
they
would
do
and
that
we
got
the
deliverables
and
all
that,
but
I
like
that
idea
of
having
any
anytime
a
proposal
gets
approved.
Having
that
person
you
know,
join
us
for
an
spc
meeting.
At
some
point,
I
think,
is
a
good
idea
just
to
talk
about
their
work.
B
Right,
it
could
also
be
possible
on
the
flip
side
of
it,
for
example,
kyle
just
finished
his
3d
printer.
That's
you
know
this
mobile
backpack
and
he
submitted
a
wonderful
report,
but
it
might
be
worthwhile
to
invite
him
to
come
and
share.
You
know
ten
minutes
of
a
summary
of
what
he
did.
There
are
people
that
do
check
these
videos
and-
and
I
think
we
can
easily
from
the
video
itself
cue
just
to
his
part,
talking.
A
A
Yeah,
you
can
always
link
directly
to
specific
points
in
the
video,
so
that
would
be
easy
to
do
so
yeah.
I
like
that
idea
and
that's
a
perfect
example.
Where
he's,
I
think,
he's
done
everything
that
he
set
out
to
do,
and
it
would
be
great
to
have
him
join
us
and
talk
about
that,
and
I
think
we
should
try
to
keep
doing
that
moving
forward.
I
think
it
helps
to
keep
people.
You
know,
keep
them
honest
and
make
sure
they're
following
through
yeah.
C
I
agree
with
all
of
that
that
particular
presentation
will
set
the
stage
for
saying
so.
We
now
have
a
printer
in
a
suitcase.
How
can
we
use
how
much
already
it's
it's
an
opportunity.
A
Sure
yeah
I
mean,
I
guess
the
trick.
There
is
how
we
deploy
it.
I
mean
if
you,
if
you,
if,
if
the
idea
is
to
to
use
that
by
sending
somebody
with
the
printer
to
go
and
kind
of
bring
our
capabilities
to
an
area,
obviously
that
has
additional
costs
for
transporting
the
human
being
and
on
the
other
hand,
if
we
just
send
the
printer
well,
that
alone
is
going
to
be
a
pretty
significant
shipping
cost,
and
then
we
got
to
make
sure
it's
handled
properly.
A
It's
just
some
things
to
think
about,
but
I
I
think
it'll
be
nice
to
have
that
in
our
I.
A
We'll
see
I
should
mention
by
the
way
I
have
a
meeting
scheduled
this
afternoon
with
maria
supposedly
for
her
to
set
me
up
on
the
dhl
account.
So
if
all
goes
well,
wow
after
today
I'll
be
in
a
position
to
offer
dhl
shipping,
so
the
primary
you
know
purpose
of
that
is
for
shipping
enable
kits,
but
I
don't
see
why,
when
things
like
this
come
up,
I
couldn't
you
know,
step
in
and
and
use
that
account
to
ship
these
other
things.
So
I'll
I'll,
let
you
guys
know
after
today,
hopefully
we'll
have
that
available.
A
Okay,
so
any
other
thoughts
about
the
current
discussion.
The
current
lumia
proposal
sounds
good.
Okay,
so
we'll
get
that
into
a
vote
and
I
have
no
doubt
it
will
pass
and
then
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
move
forward
with
that.
A
On
a
related
note,
ben,
I
could
use
your
help
right
now
in
the
hub.
If
you
look
at
our
pinned
post
up
at
the
top,
you
know
how
we
list
some
volunteering
needs.
Those
are
really
outdated.
I
don't
think
those
really
are
our
current
needs.
A
I
think
it
would
make
sense
to
replace
that
with
some
of
the
things
that
you're
looking
for
within
this
program,
you're
looking
for
some
volunteers
to
take
on
some
specific
roles,
if
you
could
maybe
help
me
to
come
up
with
those,
you
know
the
list
of
items
or
or
just
go.
If
you
want
to
just
go
in
and
revise
that
post
yourself,
but
we
should
update
that
list
of
volunteering
needs
in
that
pin
post.
B
Great
I'll
add
it
as
a
action
item
great
and
actually
the
I
have
to
follow
up
with
mazda
and
how
specifically
this
will
work,
but
I
think
there
may
be
a
way
that
we
can
connect
the
wishbone
activity
to
the
pin
post
or,
for
example,
have
let
me
take
a
step
back
that
one
of
the
challenges
with
the
hub
is
that
there
is
the
forum
which
is
our
main
space
and
then
there's
all
these
other
spaces.
B
You
know,
let's
say
enable
brazil
and
the
wishbone,
and
these
other
kinds
of
things
there
is
a
capacity
within
the
hub
to
create
these
automated
reports.
You've
seen
that
in
the
bot,
you
know
just
spitting
out
these
reports
saying
you
know
this
is
activity,
but
that's
one
space
and
we
can
potentially
do
that
for
other
spaces.
B
A
Think
I
think
that
might
be
the
long-term
goal.
I
I
would
say
in
the
early
days,
though,
you
know
just
update
the
pin
post
manually
because
I
don't
think
we're
gonna
have
that
much
activity
where
it's
gonna
be
changing
every
day.
So
you
know
you
can
just
just
add
it
as
a
you
know,
just
go
in
and
edit
the
post
yeah.
Okay
sounds
good
all
right.
So,
let's
see
recent
updated
lumia
discussions.
We
already
touched
on
the
wishbone
project,
anything
else
to
talk
about
there
right
now,
ben.
B
Yeah
I
can,
I
can
even
show
my
screen.
Let's
see.
C
B
Can
do
this
so
there
we
go.
B
Wishbone
is
moving
along
we're
going
to
do
a
test
in
the
next
coming
days
with
terry
and
nate's
chapter
she's,
going
to
pilot
some
support
for
his
chapter,
because
he
is
working
on
exoskeleton
hand
for
her
grandson,
terry
senor,
so
she
she's
going
to
pay
for
the
materials
for
that,
but
he'll
request
it
first,
so
we'll
we'll
sort
of
pilot
the
process.
What
am
I
looking
for?
B
I
want
to
hold
that
one
moment.
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
guys
the
space.
I
have
to
open
up
the
screen
a
little
bit
more,
so
we
did
set
it
up
with
john
and
evan.
B
I'm
not
sure
why
I
can't
open
up
the
other
spaces.
Oh
I'm
not
signed
in
okay.
Sorry
guys!
I
guess
I
don't
need
to
show
you
this
right
now,
but
we
did
pilot
the
the
process
with
paypal.
We
set
up
some
some
different
visualizations
of
the
projects
and
of
basically
a
spreadsheet
of
the
transactions.
B
I
need
to
add
the
documentation
for
it,
but
we're
going
to
be
piloting
some
exchanges
with
with
support
to
chapters
in
it,
and
I
think
after
terry
and
nate
I'll
I'll
contact,
you
jeremy,
and
maybe
we
can
try
to
set
up
that
printer-
that
you
had
to
donate
so
we'll
have
to
think
about
yeah,
yeah
and
we'll
start
with
one.
But
you
know
we
could
think
about
how
we
want
to
tackle
shipping.
B
A
A
Yeah
and
that's
and
that's
fine,
because
that's
where
we
would
need
them
anyway,
we
have
pretty
good
rates
domestically
already.
So
all
right,
you
know
something
else
occurs
to
me
as
I
listen
to
ben,
which
is
that
this
is
another
program
that
is
going
to
have
administrative
overhead
to
it.
Somebody's
got
to
manage
this
somebody's
got
to
keep
track
of.
A
You
know
you
mentioned
a
spreadsheet
where
you're
tracking
transactions,
I
mean
somebody
needs
to
to
manage
all
of
that,
and
if
you
do
end
up
kind
of
switching
to
a
you
know
another
role
or
pulling
away.
I
just
that
might
be
something
else
that
we
need
to
be
seeking.
You
know
somebody
to
take
responsibility
for
it.
Just
keep
that
in
mind.
B
Yeah
yeah
and
there
could
be
some
responsibility
to
you-
know
this
position,
basically
that
you
know
right
now.
It's
sort
of
an
umbrella
that
encompasses
you
know
some
of
the
stuff
that
isabelle's
going
to
be
working
on
some
of
the
stuff
that
I'm
working
on,
but
specifically
with
this
project,
I'm
really
aiming
to
have
it
be
as
automated
as
possible.
B
So
the
current
structure
is
something
where
the
account
of
all
these
little
micro
transactions
for
wishbone
is
within
paypal
and
it'll,
be
we're
hoping
to
set
it
up,
so
it
just
is
automatically
updating
all
this
stuff.
Well,.
A
B
C
A
Actually,
it
does
not.
Actually
I
didn't
know:
okay,
very
good
yeah.
All
right,
let
me
go,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
talk
about
niop
stuff
today,
so
on
we
go
discretionary
fund
allocation.
I
think
we
already
talked
about
it.
It's
on
me
to
write
up
a
discussion
thread.
I've
been
kind
of
collecting
my
thoughts
and
the
question
I
had
was
moving
up
above
a
little
bit
in
the
list
and
in
our
notes,
looking
back
up
where
it
says
active,
lumia
discussions,
there's
notes
there
where
it
says,
discuss
possible,
sponsored
initiatives.
A
We
talk
about
an
outreach
coordinator,
impact
investigator
device,
design,
curator
convener.
I
think
these
notes
were
from
john
and
what
I
wasn't
sure
is
are
those
things
that
are
supposed
to
be
things
that
I
include
as
examples
of
what
would
be
spc
discretionary
funding
or
is
that
about
something
else.
A
A
C
A
Okay,
all
right,
let's
see
we
already
touched
on
that
we
covered
the
chapter
wishbone
project
handbag
is
a
corporate
giving
thank
you.
I
think
we
covered
this.
The
parts
are
on
the
way
to
bob.
Is
there
anything?
What
else
do
we
need
to
do?
Oh
we're
gonna
need
to
get
some
shirts.
Do
you
guys
want
me
to
order
shirts
for
these
bags.
C
A
C
A
D
D
At
the
list
of
people
I
didn't
account
for
netsera,
netcetera
or
dell,
so
I
there
are
four.
D
B
B
Too,
it
could
be,
you
know,
maybe
howard
gets
the
hand
and
then
the
milstein
foundation
gets
the
t-shirts.
A
D
For
howard,
you
can
get
extra
large,
okay
seriously,
he's
a
big
man
for.
A
A
A
Hold
on
I'll
share
my
screen
for
a
second,
we
can
just
decide
on
this
together.
A
D
C
A
It
okay,
let
me
record
an
action
item
for
myself:
real
quick.
B
And
it
probably
would
be
worthwhile
to
whenever
we
are
ready.
You
know
whenever
all
items
are
in
one
spot.
If
bob
has
everything
for
bob
to
take
up
some
pictures
and
then
we
can
make
a
little
inventory
list
and
have
a
process,
because
you
know
we
can
make
our
own
instructions
for
handbags
and
add
to
that
in
the
future.
But
that
would
be
nice
to
just
basically
have
a
process
for
that,
and
I'm
sure
that's
something
too
that
isabelle
will
be
thinking
about
in
terms
of
her
fundraising,
you
know,
process
right.
A
A
Yeah
a
letter,
any
other
kind
of
I
don't
know.
If
we
have
anything
like
do,
we
have
any
enable
literature
brochures
whatever
that
we
could
probably.
B
A
A
D
B
All
right,
you
know
we
can
think
about
in
the
future.
We
can
think
about
stickers
and
all
sorts
of
other
nonsense,
but
it
seems
like
a
pretty
solid
place
to
start
with,
with
a
letter,
the
most
recent
newsletter,
a
couple,
a
t-shirt
or
two
a
mug
or
two,
and
especially
this
this
new
hand,
and
it
seems
like
I
can
even
we
can
look
at
the
last
two
newsletters.
So
there's
the
newsletter
covering
this
hand,
oh
yeah,
the
most
recent
one
coming
out.
I
will.
D
I
will
draft
the
letter
here
in
due
course
and
run
it
by
everybody
great
likewise
I'll
need
some
reimbursement
for
packaging
at
some
point.
If
we're
going
to
have
it,
it's
going
to
be
fifty
dollars
of
shipping
at
least
sure
clocks,
everything
up
so
okay.
A
B
Just
gonna
say
I
got
one
quick
question:
do
we
have
the
capacity
or
how
have
we
ever
printed,
like
not
just
a
letter
saying
thank
you,
but
almost
like
something
to
hang
up
like
a
certificate?
Have
we
ever
done
anything
like
that?
I
know
maria's
talking
about.
D
A
C
D
B
But
yeah,
maybe
I'm
sort
of
drifting
a
bit
from
specifically
these
guys,
but
you
know
again
for
for
the
future,
if
we're
thinking
about
trying
to
come
up
with
a
process,
if
there's
a
chapter,
let's
say
that
sends
some
money
they're
doing
well
and
they
want
to
contribute
to
what
we're
doing.
They
might
be
really
interested
to
have
a
official
certificate
to
stick
up
or
you
know,
there's
there's
different
ways
that
we
can
go
about
it,
but.
B
C
A
Sounds
good
all
right
on
we
go.
Volunteering
needs
we
already
talked
about.
So
ben
is
going
to
work
on
updating
that
in
post
in
the
hub.
For
us.
B
So
in
an
hour
and
a
half
so
in
terms
of
volunteering
needs,
we
do
have
this
new
process
where
we're
going
to
have
one
informal
meeting
every
month
about
mid-month
niche
and
then
the
week
after
we're
gonna,
have
sort
of
more
formal
activities,
so
we'll
be
pitching
that
today,
in
this
less
formal,
meet
and
greet,
and
then
next
week
for
people
that
want
to
participate,
will
have
sort
of
like
a
specific
task
or
a
challenge
that
they'll
be
involved
with
so
next
week.
B
It'll
be
doing
some
research
into
some
of
the
chapter
activities
on
their
facebook
page
pages
and
then
summarizing
that
sharing
that
in
the
hub
and
then
collecting
some
data
about
their
activities.
B
So
in
in
some
ways
we'll
have
this
monthly
group
activity
that
is
sort
of
scouting
for
volunteering
needs,
but
also
sort
of
group
work
that
we
can
do
remotely.
So
I
think
it's
a
good
platform
for
us
when
people
send
emails
to
bob
and
to
us
about
they
want
to
help
with
marketing
and
they
want
to
help
with.
You
know
something
we
can
say
great
thanks
so
much
for
your
interest.
B
Please
join
us
at
the
next
orientation
meeting
and
then
we
can
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
who
they
are
and
what
they
can
contribute
there
right.
D
Yeah
I
like
that
just
revert
back
to
the
handbags
for
a
minute.
I
have
a
question
that
just
occurred
to
me:
are
we
sending
a
wrong
signal
by
putting
in
shirts
and
mugs
and
everything
but
a
hand,
because
here
are
people
who
donated
money
to
help
put
prosthesis
on
people
and
now
they're
going
to
get
a
coffee,
mug
or
a
shirt
and
are
they?
Is
there
a
possibility?
They'll
sit
there
and
say
why?
Are
they
pissing
away
money
on
this
stuff?
When
I
don't
know,
I'm
just
it's
just
occurred,
it's
a
fair.
B
Handbag
is
a
report
and
that's
something
that
isabella
will
help
with
that's
something
that
we're
getting
closer
to
and
if
there's
time
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
data
projections
that
I
was
able
to
put
together
from
bob's
reports
and
and
what's
going
to
be
next
with
that.
But
that
really
that's
what
they're
really
going
to
be
looking
for-
and
you
know
bob's
right
that
they
don't
want
a
mug
in
a
t-shirt.
A
D
A
C
Think
it
is,
I
think,
you're
framing
up
in
the
letter
will
address
this
issue
and
be
very
useful.
If
you
know
you
make
it
clear
the
different
elite,
if
you
say
we're,
sending
it
to
you
as
a
token
of
appreciation
and
in
hopes
that
you
will
use
it
to
spread
the
word
about
what
we're
doing
that's
right
and
it's
not
wasteful.
C
A
Okay,
I'm
glad
you
brought
it
up,
though
bob
thanks.
Okay,
fundraising,
let
me
see
we
have
a
few
things
in
our
notes
here,
but
they're
not
too
clear
to
me.
Lumio,
encouragement
well,.
D
That's
the
post.
I
made
oh
okay.
A
week
ago
right,
I
was
tasked
with
making
a
post
saying:
hey
we've
got
money
available,
I'm
underwhelmed
with
the
response.
A
Well,
no
surprise:
there
there.
D
A
Oh,
that's
what
romeo's
for
let
him
work
out
the
kinks
there
spc
documentation,
support
presentation.
What
is
that
about
anybody?
I
don't
know
what
what
the
note
there
means.
A
A
A
I
know
last
time,
isabella,
you
gave
us
a
bit
of
an
overview
of
your
your
syllabus
and
everything
I'd
like
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
the
plans
here
and
how
how
is
isabella
going
to
be
working
with
bob
or
working
with
others,
and
what
exactly
are
we
going
to
be
doing
and
what
is
the
what's
the
what's
the
time
frame
here
like
what
is
the
semester,
just
kind
of
help
me
to
understand
the
program
here.
B
D
D
B
B
I
think
it's
a
subpost
of
lumio,
so
I
think
it
it's
the
lumio
encouragement,
so
bob
said
people
should
be
asking
for
money
and
then
I
think
the
spc
documentation
support
presentation,
maybe
that's
having
them
present
ideas
or
we
talk
about
their
ideas
in
the
sbc
meetings.
Maybe.
E
There
we
go
okay
thanks,
so
my
semester
starts
february
1st
and
it
ends
the
first
week
of
may.
I
will
also
be
supporting
enable
through
two
different
credits:
I'm
taking
a
fundraising
class
and
during
this
fundraising
class
we
have
to
make
documentations
for
an
organization
as
if
you
were
like
fundraising
for
them,
such
as,
like
a
funding
research
report,
a
letter
proposal
and
a
donor
appeal
letter.
I've
also
registered
for
two
credits
of
independent
study,
which
is
what
that
is,
and
through
that
I'll,
be
working
on
other
things,
such
as
a
custom.
E
A
customizable
template
such
as
a
donor
acknowledgement
letter
an
individual
impact
report
as
well
as
interviewing
previous
donors,
to
see
like
what
how
they
found
us
why
they
want
to
donate
to
us.
What
can
we
do
to
stay
in
their
good
graces
to
get
more
support
and
as
well
as
expand
the
list
of
donors
we
can
reach
out
to
in
the
future?.
A
That's
great,
I
mean
these
I'm
looking
at
the
things
you
have
listed
here
and
it
really
ties
in
nicely
to
a
lot
of
what
we've
talked
about
and
things
that
we
want
to
be
doing.
So
it
looks
great
so
these
under
everything
you
list
under
deliverables.
These
are
things
that
you're
going
to
be
developing
as
part
of
this
program.
A
C
But
isabella,
please
do
share
it
with
bob.
I
should.
E
I'll
email
it
now
yeah,
I
think
it's
gonna
tie
really
nicely
with
the
fundraising
course,
and
I
also
have
a
google
drive
set
up
where,
if
I
find
any
readings
from
the
class
that
would
be
helpful
to
you
all.
Also
add
it
right.
A
C
And
she
has
a
log
file
in
which
she
records
relevant
activities
like,
for
example,
today's
meeting
in
a
sentence
or
two
and
isabella.
Would
you
share
that
document
with
the
spc,
just
so
that
cleaning
prison
company
just
so
everyone
can
look
over
your
shoulder
and
also
drop
things
in
if
they
think
it
warrants
your
attention.
A
I
I
maintain
a
google
drive
series
of
folders
that
are
all
enable
related
and
it's
kind
of
become
sort
of
the
master.
Google
drive
so
keep
everything
in
your
google
drive
as
you're
working.
That's
fine,
but
at
the
end
of
it.
If
you
could
maybe
share
that
with
me
I'll
copy
it
into
ours,
just
in
case
someday,
your
account
goes
away
or
who
knows.
A
A
B
Great
it's
it's
probably
worth
mentioning
too
that
in
the
last
meeting
that
john
and
isabella-
and
I
had
we
were
talking
about
sort
of
having
this
be
a
sustainable
effort.
You
know
she's
gonna
be
able
to
put
this
focus
into
fundraising,
but
you
know
when
she's
gone,
how
do
we
continue
that
momentum,
so
she'll
be
creating
some
materials
and
templates
and
guides
that'll
fit
within
this
communications
media
coordinator
position
or
it's
a
fellowship,
so
the
things
that
she'll
be
modeling
will
continue
as
part
of
that.
A
Oh
yeah
and
I
I
have
to
say,
isabella,
what's
wonderful
about
your
program
and
your
your
course
here
is
that
the
things
you're
doing
are
exactly
the
things
that
it's
very
hard
to
get
volunteers
to.
Do
they
like
doing
the
fun
stuff,
but
they
don't
like
you
know,
creating
templates
and
the
documents
and
the
infrastructure.
We
need
to
sort
of
streamline
things
so.
E
A
E
A
E
And
because
of
covert
craziness,
there
are
no
breaks
in
between
so
the
whole
time.
A
Okay,
our
next
topic
here
is
just
kind
of
a
standing
note
as
a
follow-up
to
our
3d
crowd
discussion.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
get
into
this
today,
but
there
were
some
topics
that
seemed
worth
following
up
on.
We
talked
about
traceability
and
the
ability
to
have
some
kind
of
identifier
on
each
device.
A
I
think
that
one's
especially
important
because,
as
I
recall,
that's
something
specifically
called
out
by
the
fda,
as
you
know,
for
the
class
of
devices
that
we're
making
we
don't
have
to
have
them
certified
or
do
any
kind
of
you
know
special
oversight,
but
we
do
have
to
have
proper
record
keeping
and
we
have
to
be
able
to
show
which
device
went
where
and
what
version
it
was,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and
that's
not
something
we're
really
tracking
now.
A
So
I
do
think
that's
something
that
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
solution
for,
and
you
know,
figure
out
how
to
get
our
volunteers
to
follow
it.
But
we
don't
really
have
that
in
place
right
now,
and
that's
the
one
thing
that
I
think
we're
not
doing
that.
The
fda
is
looking
for
any
any
any
thoughts
on
that
right
now
or
do
we
just
leave
it
as
a
placeholder.
C
You
know
I've
just
had
a
thought
watch
out,
but
it
occurs
to
me
that
if
we
had
bear
with
me
for
a
moment
that
you
could,
what
one
wants
is
a
metal
brand
that
can
be
heated
up
and
then
pressed
onto
the
model
right.
That
would
be
a
good
way
of
embedding
a
unique
serial
number
on
the
model.
C
I
propose
that
you
do
it
by
taking
three
bolts
and
three
nuts
and
lining
them
up,
attaching
them
to
each
other,
and
then
you,
you
take
the
screw
lines
of
the
bolts
and
treat
them
as
clocks.
So
there
are,
let's
say:
12
positions
12
times
12
times
12..
That
actually
makes
a
pretty
large
number
of
unique
numbers.
A
D
A
A
A
Version
too,
that
would
be
a
first
step
if
we
can
just
record
the
type
and
version
and
a
version
could
be
3d
printed
on
every
design.
If
we
can
just
get
our
designers
to
incorporate
that
because
it
doesn't
change
from
one
print
to
another,
it's
going
to
be
version.
You
know
2.3.4
whatever
it
is.
That's
going
to
be
printed
right
on
the
design
somewhere
and
that'll.
Take
care
of
the
versioning
we'd
have
to
figure
out
some
kind
of
a
system
for
recording
the
other
details.
D
A
A
C
I
wonder
if
the
badging
infrastructure
is
the
is,
is
the
available
way
to
do
that
that
could
we
have
a,
I
assume
we
have
a
badge
for
delivered
a
hand
to
a
recipient
sure
if
we
did
these
details
could
become
part
of
the
requirements
for
that
badge.
They.
A
D
Assembly
and
what's
interesting,
is
when
somebody
does
submit
an
application.
I
usually
have
to
go
back
and
forth
a
couple
times
in
email
asking
them
for
the
information
on
you
know
I
I
say:
look
for
privacy,
I
don't
want
names
and
addresses,
I
want
to
know.
Is
it
male
or
female,
the
age
left
or
right
device?
A
That's
that's
just
the
problem
is
most
of
this
is
happening
outside
of
the
badging
ecosystem.
It's
happening
outside
of
enable
web
central
we've
got
volunteers
that
are
just
making
hands
and
delivering
them,
and
we
know
nothing
about
it.
How
do
we
get
all
of
those
people
that
are
not
using
these
tools
currently
to
all
put
their
data
into
some
central
place?
That's
the
challenge.
B
I'd
suggest
we
look
at
this
from
two
sides
and
try
to
go
in
both
directions
at
once,
so
that
you
know
again,
I
keep
talking
about
the
wishbone
stuff,
but
with
that
we're
we're
going
in
two
directions:
we're
giving
some
incentive
for
sort
of
general
people
to
participate,
and
then
we're
also
trying
to
raise
the
floor
a
little
bit
with
these
these
audits,
I
think
what
we
can
try
to
think
about,
which
has
been
the
way
that
we've
been
working
in
the
past
is
have
a
model.
B
So
john
you've
got
a
chapter,
let's
model
the
activities
with
one
or
two.
You
know
bob's
a
example
of
a
volunteer
john's
an
example
of
a
chapter
leader,
so
we
can
share
what
you
guys
are
doing
as
a
gold
star
model,
and
then
we
can
encourage
other
people
to
follow
that
model
with
a
badge
or
something
like
that.
We
can
start
with
that.
That's
what
we've
done
in
the
past
and.
A
I
don't,
I
don't
know
that
that's
going
to
work
for
us
ben,
we
don't
want
to
encourage
people
to
do
the
same
thing,
because
then
we're
going
to
end
up
with
is
everyone
having
their
own
spreadsheet
and
they're
all
over
the
place,
and
we
don't
have
access
to
most
of
them
and
the
data
is
it's
just
it's
going
to
be
a
mess.
What
we
need
is
a
single
data
repository
one
spreadsheet.
A
C
A
That's
true:
we
don't
have
that
figured
out
yet
I
mean
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
offer
better
shipping
rates
for
enable
kits,
but
we
haven't
figured
out
the
shipping
of
devices
yet
because
that
would
mean
all
of
our
individual
volunteers.
Somehow
getting
access
to
that
shipping
account.
We
haven't
figured.
D
B
And
it
could
be
something
that
we
just
eventually
build
into
this
wishbone
thing.
I
mean
right
now
we're
setting
it
up
so
to
participate
in
asking
for
funds.
They
have
to
be
at
active
status.
They
have
to
be
on
the
map,
if
they're
not
sending
any
reports
but
they're
asking
for
money
that
doesn't
work,
we
can
eventually
potentially
build
it
in
that
they
also
have
to
be
sharing,
not
just
the
number
of
deliveries
and
some
other
information,
but
they
also
have
to
contribute
to
this
spreadsheet.
B
A
So,
let's,
I
think,
that's
a
good
first
step,
let's
model
the
spreadsheet
bob,
let's
take
yours
as
a
starting
point,
but,
let's,
like
ben
said,
maybe
add
in
a
tab,
for
you
know,
chapters
or
you
know.
However,
we
want
to
set
it
up,
whatever
makes
sense,
let's
set
up
the
spreadsheet
as
a
google
sheet,
and
let's
share
that.
A
You
know
in
a
note
on
the
hub-
maybe
even
put
it
in
the
pin
post
for
a
while
with
the
with
the
explanation-
and
you
know
talking
about
how
this
is
something
that
the
fda
requires,
at
least
here
in
the
u.s.
We
really
need
everybody
to
work
with
us
on
this.
Let's
call
on
our
chapters
and
volunteers
to
please
put
their
data
into
the
spreadsheet.
B
Yeah
and
I
think
not
just
putting
the
data
sheets
together,
but
also
a
form
that's
connected
to
it,
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
much
easier.
Maybe
in
the
beginning
you
can
just
have
people
throw
into
the
spreadsheet,
but
it's
much
easier.
If
somebody
has
something
where
they
can
see
specific
questions
and
they
answer
the
questions
and
then
it
pops
up
on
the
spreadsheet.
A
Yeah,
fair
enough,
so
that
that
complicates
things
a
little
bit.
We'd
have
to
do
a
test
there.
I
don't
know
if,
when
you
set
up
a
form
and
you
set
up
the
spreadsheet
to
capture
the
responses-
I
don't
know
if
you
can
then
have
people
also
manually,
adding
rows
of
data
into
that
spreadsheet.
If
that
might
mess
things
up,
we'd
have
to
test
that
it
might.
You
can
do.
A
Form
then
it'll
use
the
next
available
row
exactly
oh
okay.
Well
then
we
can
do
that
so
yeah
we
can
set
up.
So
then
that
means
that
we
shouldn't
use
your
spreadsheet
bob.
If
you
can
share,
maybe
your
spreadsheet
with
me
just
like
and
kind
of
see
the
what
columns
you
have
and
what
data
points
you're
capturing
it's
already.
A
Yeah,
send
it
send
it
to
me
I'll
use
that
and
I'll
build
a
form
and
and
it'll
have
a
corresponding
spreadsheet
for
gathering
responses,
and
we
can
share
the
spreadsheet
as
well
as
the
form
and
people
can
choose.
They
can
either
dump
their
entries
right
into
the
spreadsheet
or
they
can
fill
out
the
form.
B
Speaking
of
which,
if
there
is
time
at
the
end,
I
can
do
a
little
show
and
tell
of
I
took
bob's
audits
and
then
put
them
together.
That's
all
live
now
on
the
hub.
B
I'm
sorry
what's
live,
so
there's
audits
that
bob
did
in
in
november,
and
in
february
of
you
know
how
how
many
years
a
chapter
was
active,
their
device
deliveries,
and
I
pulled
that
and
put
it
and
we're
talking
about
updating
spreadsheets.
I
pulled
that
and
put
that
into
the
spreadsheet
that
populates
the
chapter
map.
So
now,
if
you
look
at
the
chapter
map,
it
has
for
55
chapters,
which
is
you
know
thirty
percent
it
it
shows.
B
I
can
give
a
little
show
and
tell
so
I'm
changing
topics,
but
it
oh.
I
can
wait
until.
B
Yeah
I
sent
an
email
out.
It
was
right
before
this
meeting,
but
can
you
guys
see
my
screen
yep?
Yes,
okay,.
B
All
right
so
now,
if
you
hover
over
the
chapter
map,
there's
the
posts
that
have
the
chapter
spotlight
that
were
as
before
they
sent.
They
showed
some
information
about
census
and
device
deliveries,
but
now
that's
also
the
case
with
with
a
number
of
other
chapters,
so
here's
one
that
doesn't
have
a
this
is
bob's
data
yeah,
that's
great!
It's
also
in
these
other
ones.
B
I
think
it
will
also
give
us
a
lot
more
solid
ground
to
stand
on
for
projections,
so
I
did
send
out
an
email,
but
you
know
if
we
have
30
of
our
chapters
with
data
that
they've
submitted,
which
again
this
is
outdated.
We
need
to
update
it,
but
we
can
multiply
that
and
get
a
projection
based
in
real
numbers,
and
I
think
we
can
also
start
thinking
about
doing
that
with
the
badges.
B
We
can
start
to
also
do
projections
based
on
real
numbers
outside
of
just
chapters.
We
can
look
at
folks
like
bob
rieger,
who
are
very
active,
but
you
know
lone
sharks.
C
It's
it's
a
start
to
be
aware
that
there's
a
huge
sample
bias
going
on
the
people
who
report
may
well
be
much
more
productive
than
the
people
who
don't
or
the
opposite
could
be.
The
case
and
simply
multiplying
is
is,
is
a
good
exercise,
but
I
wouldn't
trust
the
numbers.
Every
data
is.
B
Well
and
the
data
will
get
more-
I
mean
if
it
was
at
one
shot.
I'd
say:
yeah,
that's
pretty
weak,
but
if
it's
something
that
again,
we
have
this
system
set
up
where
we
will
be.
Maybe
I
can
share
my
screen
again,
so
the
wishbone
process
is
aimed
at
doing
this
quarterly.
B
So
every
time,
if
we
get
a
few
more
that
trickle
in,
I
did
notice
from
bob's
results
that
he
had
a
surprising
amount
of
chapters
that
were
just
submitting
the
information
again,
but
there
weren't
new.
B
There
wasn't
new
information
as
well,
so
it'll
it'll
continue
to
get
more
accurate
over
time,
so
progress
yeah.
So
some
of
the
things
that
I
did
want
to
double
check
with
you
and
masby
sent
me
an
email
saying
you
know
double
check
this
with
the
spc
this
week.
The
current
plan,
and
again
this
is
you
know
it's
under
the
wishbone
umbrella
thing,
but
this
is
really
just
the
extension
of
what
bob
was
doing
before
we'll
send
out
one
in-depth
survey
every
year
and
every
quarter
there'll
be
a
very
short.
B
We
talked
about
so
I
have
these
specific
questions,
which
is
based
on
the
chapter
spotlight
interview.
I
noticed
in
bob's
responses
that
there
was
a
lot
of
confusion
when
we
put
things
together.
We
asked
in
one
question
how
many
devices
have
you
fabricated,
assembled
and
delivered,
and
people
didn't
know
how
to
answer
to
that.
But
if
we
separate
it
out,
you
know
even
deliveries
nationally
or
internationally.
B
We
can,
I
think,
get
more
data
to
work
with
and
then
over
time
we
can
see
growth
for
chapters
and
the
community
and
that
kind
of
stuff
I'll
send
this
out
to
you
guys
you
don't
have
to
read
it
all
now.
B
No
problem
we'll
do
one
of
the
things
that
I
noticed
that
worked
with
bob.
He
had
to
remind
these
the
chapters
and
I
he
got
more
responses
with
the
reminders
and
you
could
see
in
terms
of
the
dates
that
they
submitted
those
reminders
that
he
did
made
a
difference,
so
we
can
send
an
automated
response
every
month,
but
I
think
it
could
be
really
interesting
for
us
as
a
volunteer
role
to
have
somebody
doing
a
little
bit
of
digging.
B
I
know
john
gets
excited
about,
you
know,
sort
of
scraping
facebook
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
I
think
we
can
introduce
this
as
an
activity,
we're
sort
of
doing
that
next
week.
You
know
doing
some
searching
and
facebook,
but
we
can
have
chapters
that
haven't
participated
in
the
audit.
You
know
have
people
that
are
doing
a
little
bit
of
research
and
connecting
the
dots,
sending
them.
Individualized
messages,
checking
their
social
media
posts
and
saying
hey,
looks
like
you're
still
posting.
That's
wonderful!
B
It
seems
perfect
for
the
orientation
group,
so
mazzy
talked
about
setting
up
these
repercussions
and
I
wanted
to
we
wanted
to
check
and
make
sure
that
everybody
was
okay
with
us
and
we're
running
out
of
time,
but
we
send
out
the
survey.
We
have
these
automated
emails.
We
have
maybe
a
volunteer
or
two
that
chases
after
a
couple
of
the
loose
cannons.
If
they
miss
a
survey,
that's
it's
been
three
months.
They
haven't
filled
it
out.
B
They
are
tagged
on
the
chapter
map,
but
they're
still
listed
publicly
they're
tagged
as
being
delinquent,
delinquent
right,
it'll
just
be
a
color,
but
it'll
be
they'll,
be
tagged
as
being
delinquent.
That's
that's
right
if
they
missed
two
surveys.
Now
it's
six
months
now
and
keep
in
mind
that
we've
been
doing
this
infrequently
and
all
the
data
that
we
have
right
now
is
mostly
a
year
old,
but
six
months
they
haven't
responded.
Now
they
have
a
red
colored
tag.
B
C
A
B
C
B
If,
if
after
six
months,
you're
still
on
the
map,
but
you're
listed
as
oh
actually
yeah
you're
still
on
the
map,
but
you're
listed
as
inactive
and
you're
added
to
this
inactive
list
which
bob's
already
modeled
and
then,
if
you
missed
three
surveys
so
now
you're
getting
to
you
know
three
quarters
nine
months
out,
then
you're
removed
from
the
public
map
right.
B
But
the
data
is
we'll
still
hold
on
to
that
because
if
they
respond
down
the
road
bob
got
a
response
from
a
chapter
in
ghana
in
february
of
2020
and
they
have
been
marked
as
inactive
and
then
just
popped
right
back
up.
So
yeah.
C
C
A
B
B
You
know,
there's
some
talk
about
how
we
can
integrate
this
into
the
chapter
devices
and
get
some
feedback
from
the
community
of
the
devices
that
they're
using
and
and
then
integrate
that
into
our.
B
The
devices
that
chapters
are
using
so
let's
say
enable
france
is
using
primarily
unlimited
arms
and
they
have
no
experience
with
the
kinetic
hand
versus
you
know
another
chapter:
that's
only
using
the
kinetic
can
we
can
get
their
feedback
based
on
the
devices
that
they're
using
basbee
was
interested
in
having
that
inform
on
right
now
on
the
hub.
This
is
sort
of
a
tangent,
but
he
it
was
a
big
priority
for
him
and
I
and
I
applaud
his
motivated
efforts.
B
He
looks
at
the
chat
the
device
list
that
we
have
with
enable
as
being
overwhelming
and
full
of
devices
that
you
know
some
of
them
don't
have
active
or
updated
stl
files
and
new
members
come,
and
they
say
I
don't
know
where
to
start
there's
a
hundred
of
these
things,
but
we
can
start
instead
of
having
the
spc
doing
their
ratings.
We
can
start
informing
how
we
you
know
we
can
have
the
top
five
most
popular
devices
and
that's
not.
D
D
A
Right-
and
we
have
that
built-
you
know
mazda's
not
aware
of
this,
but
we
have
email
templates
in
our
help
desk
for
every
new
member
that
reaches
out
to
us
saying:
hey,
I'd
like
to
get
started.
Part
of
our
response
includes
recommendations
for
which
design
to
start
with,
so
we
we
try
to
help
them,
navigate
that
we
say
this
is
the
design
you
should
do.
First,
it's
the
easiest,
it's
the
most
popular,
and
so
we
do
try
to
take
care
of
that.
On
the
back
end.
C
Great
it
does
sound
like
to
to
address
masby's
concern.
We
could
have
a
few
sentences
or
a
listing
at
the
top
of
the
catalog.
That's
what
I
was
for
featured
devices
yeah.
B
D
Based
on
my
experience
with
the
audits,
an
automated
system
is
great,
be
aware
that,
as
you
continue
to
go
back
to
people
not
responding
or
you
find,
there
are
stories
behind
why
they
haven't
responded.
The
school
is
on
semester,
break
that
this.
To
that
you
know,
there's
there's
some
degree
of
human
follow-up
and
interaction.
That's
still
required.
I
just.