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This is the weekly e-NABLE Town Hall meeting for Friday, June 25, 2021.
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A
Weeks,
we'll
maybe
actually
be
on
schedule.
All
right
go
live
all
right.
We
there
we
go
now.
We
are
live
on
youtube.
Let
me
get
back
to
my
zoom
window,
okay,
so
I
guess
to
start
off.
I
should
maybe
share
my
screen
and
get
our
notes
up
here.
A
Let's
see,
okay,
you
guys
seeing
the
notes
now
make
those
a
little
bit
bigger.
I
know
I
keep
my
resolution
a
little
high.
Okay
welcome
everyone,
so
I
thought
maybe
a
quick
round
of
introductions.
Today's
we
do
have
a
special
guest.
Dylan
is
here
to
give
us
a
presentation.
A
So
I'll
just
get
us
started,
I'm
jeremy,
simon
long
time
being
able
volunteer,
do
a
lot
of
behind
the
scenes
stuff,
like
you
know,
helping
with
the
various
websites
and
help
desk
and
just
kind
of
trying
to
keep
things
going
behind
the
scenes
as
much
as
possible,
and
I
also
own
a
company
3d
universe.
That's
involved
with
you
know
we
sell
3d
printers
materials,
but
we
also
make
the
kits
for
our
enabled
volunteers
for
some
of
the
more
popular
designs.
A
So
that's
me,
let
me
pass
it
over
to
bob.
B
Hi,
I'm
bob
rieger
a
volunteer
three
and
a
half
years,
I'm
a
maker.
I
have
fabricated
and
donated
devices
and
like
jeremy,
I
help
out
behind
the
scenes
with
with
the
help
desk
with
chapter
administration
badging,
and
I
do
a
little.
B
Yeah,
I'm
john
shaw,
co-founder
of
enable
I
do
a
lot
of
work
in
front
of
the
scene,
but
I
got
to
point
out
jeremy
that
you
really
have
to
give
up
on
describing
yourself
as
the
behind
the
scenes,
guy
you're,
also
on
stage
as
much
as
anyone
in
the
organization
and
do
all
sorts
of
great
work.
I
suppose.
D
A
Right,
alexander.
B
C
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
dylan
beam.
I
am
the
founder
and
president
of
the
accessible
prosthetics
initiative.
I'm
you
know
part
of
the
motivation
to
start
api
was
seeing
the
work
that's
going
on
with
enable
so
it's
lovely
to
present
to
you
guys
this
has
been
about
three
years
in
the
making.
C
So
it's
really
nice
to
see
you
know
I
I
saw
your
organization-
was
inspired
by
it
and
decided
to
create
my
own
with
a
very
similar
mission,
of
course,
but
going
about
it
in
a
different,
unique
way
and
I'll
get
into
that
in
the
presentation
how
api
functions,
but
I'm
really
excited
to
do
this
presentation.
It's
really
nice
to
start
engaging
with
you
all
awesome.
A
Great
to
have
you-
and
I
I
really
I
know
we
are
looking
forward
to
hearing
about
your
your
approach
and
what
you
do
and
how
you
do
it
too,
because
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
this
sort
of.
I
don't
know,
sort
of
you
know,
self-analysis.
B
C
A
Searching
sort
of
trying
to
understand
who
are
we
and
how
did
we
get
here
and
how
do
we
operate
and
you
know
looking
at,
we
have
some
chapters
just
doing
amazing
things
and
we're
still
learning
about
how
they're
doing
things
and
we're
trying
to
sort
of
find
models
that
can
be
shared
and-
and
so
this
is.
This
is
going
to
be
wonderful
to
hear
because
it's
perfect
timing
as
we're
exploring
these
things
and
figuring
out
what
works
best
and
how
we
can
get
help
to
those
that
need
it.
C
Well,
that's
that's
great
to
hear
I'm
glad
that
this
worked
out.
Yeah.
A
Awesome
all
right,
so
we're
just
going
to
do
a
couple
of.
We
only
have
a
couple
of
action
items
to
review,
so
this
will
be
quick
and
then
we'll
turn
things
over
to
you
dylan,
so
mine,
unfortunately,
is
is
non-progress
just
because
I
I've
been
unusually
busy
lately.
So
I
apologize
for
the
delays.
I'm
going
to
set
a
goal
for
myself
of
coordinating
a
zoom
meeting
this
week
with
you
bob.
If
you
can,
and
eric
hempstead,
just
kind
of
get
us
back
together.
Talk
about
the
details
of
the
sizing
badge.
C
A
Do
we
want
the
criteria
to
be
etc?
And
I
think
once
we
kind
of
have
an
agreement
on
the
details
getting
it
up,
there
should
be
pretty
easy,
so
I'll
I'll
try
to
get
some
progress
on
that
going
this
week.
Okay,
john!
Any
updates
on
the
lumio,
embedding
thing
that
we
were
working
on.
Have
you
heard
anything
from
them?
No,
we'll
just
we'll
just
keep
that
on
there
as
a
reminder
there
are
metrics
in
here.
I
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
really
noteworthy
here,
I'll,
just
pop
them
up.
A
If
anyone
wants
to
see
kind
of
what's
been
going
on.
This
is
just
a
summary
of
we
have
1829
members
in
our
hub
right
now,
which
is
up
19
for
the
week
there's
you
know
we're
approaching
15
000
total
posts,
but
that
includes
all
the
imported
archives
going
back
to
the
early
days
of
our
google
plus
community.
Everything
else
here
is
pretty
standard.
17
tickets
this
week
is
a
pretty
you
know,
moderate
level
to
low
level
of
activity.
You
know
it's
it.
A
We
haven't
been
issuing
as
many
badges
and
that
sort
of
thing
lately
so
that
kind
of
slowed
down
after
people
got
used
to
the
new
system.
I
guess
yeah,
that's
I
don't
think
there's
anything
else
noteworthy
there
who's
doing
notes
today,
I
forgot
to
ask:
is
that
john
or
ben,
both
of
you
guys.
A
That's
good,
so
ben.
I
I
put
a
placeholder
down
under
discussion
topics
for
for
dylan's
presentation,
just
fyi,
and
with
that
I
am
going
to
turn
things
over
to
you.
Dylan
I'm
going
to
stop
my
screen
share,
so
you
can
share
yours.
If
you
like.
C
Sure
sounds
good,
so
just
a
comment.
I
mean
jeremy
and
I
were
chatting
about
this
before
the
meeting
started.
But
you
know
I
just
have
a
rough
outline
about
seven,
eight
slides
something
like
that.
Just
kind
of
explain
what
is
api
and
how
we
function.
But
I
don't
want
this
to
be
a
formal
presentation,
1b
discussion.
So
if
anyone
has
any
questions
or
comments,
please
feel
free
to
jump
in
and
you
know
like
we
said
before.
C
If
there
are
any
comments
in
the
live
chat
that
I
can't
see
it
as
I'm
presenting
jeremy
or
ben
or
someone,
please
bring
it
up
and
I
can
address
it
as
best
as
possible.
But
I
want
this
to
be.
You
know,
casual
discussion,
it's
a
nice
visual
aid,
but
not
a
not
a
formal,
formal
presentation
or
anything.
A
A
C
Thanks
jeremy,
so
I'm
dylan
beam,
I'm
the
founder
and
president
of
the
accessible
prosthetics
initiative.
This
is
our
logo
up
here
at
the
top
right,
of
course,
and
a
couple
arms
that
we've
built
down
here.
It's
all
about
who
I
am
I
was
actually
born
and
raised
in
oregon.
Originally,
I
moved
to
the
ohio
state
university
to
get
my
bachelor's
in
food,
agricultural
and
biological
engineering.
That's
where
I
founded
the
accessible
prosthetics
initiative
kind
of
around
2018
2019,
I'm
currently
a
graduate
student
in
the
bioengineering
program
here
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh.
C
There's
a
few
different
ways
in
which
we
seek
to
do
this
through
educational
initiatives,
communication
initiatives
and
production,
so
production
we
mean
both
engineering
and
manufacturing
different
devices
and
whatnot
a
lot
of
the
devices
that
have
been
at
least
put
together
initially
by
the
enable
community,
and
so
with
education.
We
want
to.
We
have
a
couple
different
populations
that
we're
trying
to
educate
so
one
we
want
to
teach
amputees
about
different
kinds
of
technologies
that
are
available
to
them.
C
I
can
distinctly
remember
a
meeting
that
I
was
sitting
in
an
amt
support
group
meeting.
What
I
was
talking
about
the
concept
of
a
shower
leg
and
a
lot
of
people
in
that
meeting
were
really
excited
about
that
concept,
and
none
of
them
had
heard
of
any.
But
if
you
look
around
on
the
internet,
you
can
find
a
few
different
devices
that
are
classified
as
a
shower
leg,
or
an
aquatic
leg
that
are
available.
C
So
one
thing
that
we're
trying
to
do
is
kind
of
compile
all
the
different
kinds
of
devices
and
medical
practices
that
could
be
helpful
to
amputees
and
teach
them
to
amputees
in
a
digestible
way,
preferably
in
like
a
non-technical
way.
It's
not
like
a
technical
description
that
you
see
from
an
engineer
or
a
scientist
or
a
doctor,
but
in
layman's
terms,
what
does
this
mean
to
you,
and
how
can
this
help
you
similar
to
that?
You
know
we
also
want
to
do
professional
education,
current
and
future
professionals.
C
So
from
the
community
engagement
communication
side
of
things
again,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
engaging
with
amputees,
something
that
is
all
too
common
in
the
world
of
engineering.
Obviously,
not
every
engineer
product
has
this
problem,
but
it
does
happen
where
engineers
kind
of
they
look
at
a
problem.
They
say
this
is
the
right
solution.
I
know
sorry
solution,
they
develop
it
and
turns
out.
C
They
didn't
solve
the
right
problem
right,
so
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
are
actively
engaging
with
the
amputee
community
and
getting
feedback
from
them
about
what
are
the
problems
that
they
actually
face
and
how
do
we
improve
their
lives?
So
how
do
we
solve
those
problems
in
a
meaningful
way,
we're
also
creating
a
network
of
professionals?
C
So
again,
you
know
looking
at
how
we're
working
with
future
clinicians
and
engineers
and
current
clinicians
and
engineers
getting
them
to
work
together,
and
if
we
have
you
know
a
doctor,
who's
really
interested
in
accessible
care
connecting
them
with
a
prosthetist.
That's
really
interested
in
accessible
care,
so
they
can
create
basically
a
pipeline
in
these
different
communities
of
being
able
to
write
accessible
care
to
people
and
that
obviously
ties
into
that
last
point
about
collaborating
with
different
groups
such
as
hospitals,
support
groups
and
other
kinds
of
student
organizations.
C
So
we
have
chapters
at
a
variety
of
different
universities
around
the
country.
There
are
other
student
organizations
at
those
universe
at
those
universities
that
have
similar
goals
such
as
disability,
advocacy
groups,
so
figuring
out.
What
is
the
best
way
to
work
with
those
groups
to
improve
the
community
or
amputee
support
groups,
making
sure
that
we
have
at
least
one
student
from
each
of
our
chapters
attending
amputee
support
group
meetings
once
a
month
to
keep
those
ties
with
the
amputee
community?
C
Obviously
the
enable
community
knows
there
are
dozens
and
dozens,
if
not
hundreds,
of
open
source
3d
printed
devices
available
out
there.
One
thing
that
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
put
it
through
rigorous
engineering
testing,
to
make
sure
that
you
know
if
you're
printing,
this
device
that
you're
using
the
right
materials,
the
right
printing
parameters,
making
sure
those
devices
that
you
come
with
are
safe
and
durable
and
effective.
C
A
Do
have
one
question
and
you'll
I'll
leave
it
to
you
to
decide
when
it's
appropriate
to
address,
but
you
alluded
to
at
one
point
at
least
the
the
shower
leg.
I'd
be
interested
in
hearing
more
about
your
thoughts
regarding
working
on
lower
limb
devices,
as
opposed
to
upper
limb
devices
and
the
high
potential
risks
associated
with
that.
C
I
am
glad
you
brought
that
up,
because
that
is
one
of
our
key
projects
that
we
are
excited
to
highlight.
So
I
will
address
that
as
we
get
to
it.
But
that's
a
great
question.
I
promise
I
didn't
plant
that
question
in
the
audience,
but
it's
a
great
question.
Yeah
does.
D
B
Was
a
enabled
leader
and
intern
for
quite
some
time:
okay,
gotcha.
C
D
C
Yeah
we're
working
with
a
few
different
prosthetists,
so
one
is
his
name.
Is
professor
goran
fiedler
here
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh.
C
C
Originally
it
was
a
grant
proposal
at
ohio
state
which
then
turned
into
a
club
at
ohio
state
in
january
of
2019,
and
it
was
just
a
club
at
ohio
state
until
about
when
the
pandemic
hit
last
march,
so
we've
grown
exponentially
over
the
last
year
we
had
about
20
students
at
ohio,
state
last
may
and
now
I'd
say
we
have
about
over
about
150
members
in
five
to
ten
different
states
across
the
country.
So
alex
to
your
point.
Yes,
it
is
a
consideration
it's
in
our
mind,
but
it's
not
in
the
very
near
future.
D
I've
got
a
quick
question
not
to
take
us
too
much
on
a
walk,
but
you
mentioned
in
this
slide
networking
professionals
which,
which
is
really
interesting.
I'm
curious
if
you've
had
any
success,
networking
with
amputees
or
people
with
limb
difference
any
kind
of
community
support,
not
just
the
doctor
to
device
user,
but
device
user
to
device
user
kind
of
community
development.
C
So
we
have
not
been
focusing
too
much
on
the
device
user
device
user
connection
and
the
reason
behind
that
is
there's
already
infrastructure
to
do
that
right
so
part
of
our
philosophy
with
api.
Is
we
don't
want
to
be
solving
problems
that
other
people
have
already
solved,
and
at
that
point
we
want
to
connect
them
with
those
resources.
So
the
amputee
coalition
has
a
bunch
of
amputee
support
groups
available
all
over
the
country,
and
we
just
haven't
found
that
there's
a
need
for
us
to
be
doing
that.
You
know
in
pittsburgh
alone.
C
C
There
are
four
empty
support
groups,
at
least
that
I'm
aware
of,
and
you
know
it's
possible
there
even
more
similar
in
columbus,
central
ohio
there's
a
handful
of
those
one
thing
that
we
are
trying
to
do,
though,
is
you
know,
obviously
there's
this
very
large
maker
movement
with
enable
there's,
clinicians
and
there's
amputees,
and
one
things
we're
trying
to
do
is
bring
all
of
them
together
to
bring
the
makers
and
the
engineers
together,
connect
them
with
the
clinicians
and
the
end
users
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
significant
progress
in
the
designs
and
actually
really
improving
people's
lives.
C
Does
that
that
answer
your
question
ben?
That's,
good!
Okay,
great
all,
right!
Well,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
move
on
so
talking
about
what
we're
doing
with
our
education
team.
C
As
I
said,
we
kind
of
have
these
four
main
components:
amputee,
education,
professional
education,
middle
and
high
school
education,
collegiate
education,
so,
like
I
said,
with
amputee
education,
we're
trying
to
use
them
about
different
kinds
of
prosthetic
devices,
clinical
procedures
and
3d
printing.
One
project
that
I'm
actively
working
on
with
a
clinician
here
in
pittsburgh.
C
I
was
shadowing
dr
herwitz
for
an
afternoon,
and
I
saw
that
he
kept
going
online
to
explain
different
kinds
of
suspension
systems
to
his
patients,
and
I
said:
well:
wouldn't
it
be
nice
if
you
just
had
a
one
sheet
that
explained
the
different
suspension
systems
and
you
can
you
know
circle
the
suspension
system,
you
want
to
give
them
and
then
they
can
take
it
home
as
their
own
frame
of
reference
and
they
can
talk
to
their
family
and
their
friends
about
it.
And
so
on
and
so
forth.
C
The
other
thing
you
know
with
apd
education
is
actually
going
in
to
amputee
support
groups
and
talking
about
api
and
what
we
do
so,
like
I
mentioned
before
that
discussion
that
I
had
with
the
southwest
atlanta
amputee
support
group
talking
about
shower
legs
and
how
that's
actually
a
technology
that's
out
there.
C
The
trick
is,
of
course,
then
getting
that
technology,
so
professional
education
we're
still
working
on
developing
this
a
little
bit
more,
but
ultimately
we're
trying
to
develop
some
kind
of
continuing
education
that
we
can
provide
to
clinicians
teaching
about
issues
related
to
accessibility
and
how
they
might
be
able
to
bring
it
into
their
practice.
There's
certainly
a
stigma
against
3d
printed
prostheses
that
they're
not
durable
enough
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
And
ultimately
it's
not
true.
C
Yes,
but
in
certain
scenarios
you
know
there
are
fantastic
ways
to
use
different
devices,
as
you
know,
perhaps
a
shower
device
or
as
a
temporary
device,
a
growth
device
or
if
you
print
it,
you
know
with
a
durable
enough
material
as
a
permanent
device
right,
there's
many
different
ways:
we're
trying
to
ultimately
develop
a
continuing
education,
continuing
education
program
to
teach
clinicians
about
the
best
uses
of
these
kinds
of
devices
talking
about
collegiate
education
and
high
school
education.
C
To
solve
those
problems
and
with
middle
and
high
school
education,
we
scale
it
back
a
little
bit
we're
working
on
developing
after-school
programs,
both
with
new
albany
high
school
in
ohio,
just
outside
columbus
and
hopefully
a
high
school
in
the
lehigh
valley,
teaching
them
about
different
careers
within
the
realm
of
prosthetics
teaching
them
about
different
careers.
C
Within
the
realm
of
assistive
technology,
giving
them
hands-on
problem-solving
opportunities
with
mentors
mentorship
from
our
collegiate
teams
and
engaging
with
amputees
to
figure
out,
you
know
what
are
actual
problems
that
people
face
and
how
we
might
be
able
to
solve
those
problems.
They
don't
have
any
questions
about
our
education
team.
C
Okay,
go
ahead
and
move
on.
I
was
talking
about
communications
again
so,
like
I
said,
we
have
clubs
at
different
universities
and
we
also
have
a
national
non-profit
organization.
They
do
different
amounts
of
work,
so
the
club
level
we're
really
seeking
to
have
them,
engage
with
the
empty
community
in
their
local
area.
C
So
if
they're
in
columbus,
the
club
is
responsible
for
going
to
those
amputee
support
group
meetings
and-
and
you
know
talking
to
the
the
people
in
those
communities
and
making
sure
that
we
understand
what
are
the
needs
of
that
community
and
how
we
can
best
serve
those
needs
and
again
connect
with
similar
groups
in
the
area,
hospitals,
prosthetists,
student,
orgs
and
so
on
so
forth.
C
Basically,
their
mission
is
to
be
the
local
representative
of
api
in
that
area
right
rather
than
if
we
just
had
the
national
organization
based
out
of
ohio,
and
we
were
trying
to
impact
the
entire
country
from
columbus.
Ohio
that'd
be
pretty
tough
right.
So
having
these
different
branch
locations
all
around
the
country
is
very
valuable
at
the
national
level
we're
doing
market
research.
You
know
similar
to
that
previous
point.
We
want
to
understand
what
are
the
problems
that
amputees
face
and
what
are
the
best
ways
to
solve
those
problems.
C
There's
a
couple
different.
You
know
website
designs
that
we're
testing
out.
We
want
to
see
what
people
think
about
those.
C
What
kind
of
problems
do
they
face
with
their
devices
that
we
might
be
able
to
solve,
like,
I
said,
developing
a
website
with
use
for
tools
so
right
now
we
have
a
variety
of
different
resources
available
on
our
website,
but
it's
you
know
simply
a
list
of
web
links
right,
which
is
not
a
very
intuitive
way
to
go
through
that
information,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
developing
a
web
application
that
can
parse
you
that
more
easily.
C
So
you
can,
you
know
you
can
imagine
kind
of
like
google,
where
you
type
in.
I
want
to
find
this
thing.
Have
it
searched
through
our
database
and
identifies
like
okay?
This
is
what
you're,
looking
for,
rather
than
having
to
just
scroll
through
a
bunch
of
different
links
and,
of
course,
at
the
national
level,
engaging
with
social
media
to
make
sure
people
know
who
we
are,
what
we're
doing,
how
we're
trying
to
impact
the
world
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
C
Any
questions,
okay,
moving
on
to
the
production
team,
so
this
is,
you
know
some
research
phases,
some
development
phases
so
we're
looking
at
again,
like
I
said,
market
research
identifying.
What
are
the
major
problems
looking
into
what
are
the
most
common
levels
of
amputation,
so
we
can
figure
out
like
what
is
the
most
impactful
way
to
help
people
is
it.
You
know
by
doing
just
a
hand,
prosthesis
or
a
trans,
tibial,
prosthesis
or
trans
femoral.
We
don't
really
know
right.
C
Where
is
the
biggest
need,
and
how
can
we
fix
that
also
trying
to
identify?
What
does
it
look
like
to
get?
You
know
these
kinds
of
devices
approved
by
the
fda?
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
get
that
done?
What
kind
of
testing
needs
to
happen?
What
kind
of
paperwork
needs
to
happen
and
we're
also
looking
into
more
sustainable
manufacturing
practices?
C
Obviously,
if
you're
3d
printing
things
when
the
device
breaks-
and
you
have
to
throw
something
away,
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
reuse
that
material
to
either
you
know,
build
something
else
or
build
another
device?
And
if
we're
trying
to
build
another
device,
what
kind
of
testing
needs
to
be
done
to
make
sure
that
that
device
with
recycled
materials
is
safe
or
you
know?
Is
it
that
we
can
recycle
a
device
or
we
can
recycle
plastic
three
times
before?
It's
not
safe
to
use
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
C
So
that's
a
project
actively
going
on
at
ohio
state
and
we
have
a
couple
different
development
type
projects,
so
we're
trying
to
improve
socket
fit
and
we
are
going
into
lower
limb
prosthetics
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh.
So
there's
a
group
of
five
undergraduate
students
working
with
dr
fiedler
to
look
into.
C
Is
it
possible
for
us
to
3d
print
a
lower
limb
device
since
about
80
to
90
percent
of
amputees
are
lower
limb,
amputees
and
if
it's
not
possible,
3d
print
it?
What
are
other
kinds
of
affordable,
accessible
manufacturing
techniques
that
could
be
used
to
create
those
devices,
also
looking
at
printing
different
kinds
of
designs,
modifying
the
unlimited
arm?
So
when
talking
about
printing
different
designs
using
different
kinds
of
parameters,
different
kinds
of
materials
and
seeing
you
know,
is
this
best
to
use
abs
or
pla
or
nylon?
C
And
if
you
know
we
say
it's
best
to
use
abs,
what
does
that
mean?
What's
the
use
case
for
this
kind
of
device,
so
we
have
a
handful
of
different
projects.
I
can
talk
about
all
of
them
in
greater
detail,
but
the
two
big
products
I
really
want
to
highlight
right
now
is
at
ohio
state
again,
looking
at
figuring
out
the
best
way
to
recycle
materials
and
use
that
to
produce
devices
and
then
at
pit
developing
the
lower
limb
prosthetic
device
in
an
accessible
way,
so
jeremy.
I
think
that
kind
of
answered
your
question.
C
At
least
briefly.
We
can
have
more
of
a
discussion
about
that
later,
if
you'd
like,
but
does
anyone
have
any
other
questions
about
kind
of
water
production.
C
Well
so,
unfortunately,
since
the
pandemic
started,
and
then
we
grew
exponentially
after
that,
we've
only
really
had
the
chance
to
make
a
couple
devices
for
one
recipient
and
so
part
of
the
idea
behind
that
is.
We
know
that
the
enable
community
is
really
focused
on
distribution
of
the
devices,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we're
not
trying
to
really
solve
problems.
Well,
we're
not
focused
on
solving
problems
that
are
already
being
solved.
We're
more
focused
on
this
engineering
problem
right.
C
So
I
know
in
columbus,
specifically
coms
of
prosthetics
works
on
giving
people
devices
at
low
or
no
cost
to
them.
So
we're
really
focused
on
solving
some
of
these
engineering
problems
instead
with
the
hopes
that
these
designs
can
then
be
used
by
the
enable
community
and
given
to
people.
That
being
said,
the
enable
chapter
at
the
university
of
cincinnati
has
reached
out
to
us.
C
You
know
saying
they
want
to
work
with
us
on
some
of
these
engineering
projects
and
so
we're
going
to
be
working
with
them,
and
hopefully
you
guys
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
how
to
identify
who's,
a
good
fit
to
be
giving
these
devices
to
yeah.
But
did
that
answer
your
question
bob.
B
It
does
I
was
just
I.
I
was
trying
to
understand
a
little
better,
the
scope
of
what
you've
been
able
to
do
in
terms
of
the
the
actual
printing
and
assembly
and
distribution
of
devices
and
then
one
other
question,
I'm
intrigued
by
the
modification
of
the
unlimited
arm,
as
somebody
who's
made
a
number
of
them
for
actual
recipients.
B
C
Yeah,
so
I
I'd
certainly
love
to
hear
your
views
on
it
at
some
point,
so
part
of
the
motivation
behind
improving
socket
fit
was
because
the
feedback
that
we
got
about
the
unlimited
arm
was
that
the
socket
was
not
very
comfortable,
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
are
there
different
ways
that
we
can
design
the
socket
that
would
make
it
more
comfortable
and
more
user-friendly
at
that
point.
C
C
Right,
yeah
well,
and
so
with
the
current
design.
It
is
a
partial
socket
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
but
we're
trying
to
figure
out
is
you
know,
I
mean
maybe
having
a
partial
socket
is
still
the
best
way
to
do
it,
but
is
there
a
way
that
we
could
use
perhaps
3d
scanning
to
get
a
better
fit
than
the
the
current
practice
right
and.
C
Yeah,
we
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
right
now,
but
that's
why
we
have
you
know
engineering
students
that
are
really
passionate
about
this
work.
Looking
into
those
different
projects.
D
There's
a
there's,
a
question
in
the
the
youtube
chat
I'll,
just
read
it
it's
from
alexander:
do
you
have
a
development
team
that
works
on
new
designs
and
an
archive
of
old
and
provenly
adapted
designs
like
cases
that
have
some
of
the
fingers,
and
I
did
notice
that
one
of
your
your
bullet
points
is
printing
different
designs.
C
Yeah
yeah,
so
we
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
on
our
website
is
a
list
of
a
handful
of
the
different
designs
that
we've
identified
largely
from
the
enable
community
and
then
we've
basically
compiled
videos
and
instructions
and
the
files
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
if
anyone
wants
to
build
these
devices,
then
they're
there
for
people
to
see
like
I
said
these
engineering
projects
are
taking
some
time,
so
we
don't
have
the
any
any
major
adaptations
just
yet
they're
still
in
the
works.
C
But
that
is
something
that
we
will
be
providing
to
people
when
we
get
to
it
so,
depending
on
yeah
there,
there
are
different
teams
at
different
universities.
Working
on
this
project,
like
I
said
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh,
there's
five
undergrads
that
are
really
focusing
on
lower
limb,
prosthetic
development
right
now
at
ohio,
state
they're,
working
on
sustainable
manufacturing
practices,
so
we're
working
on
a
lot
of
these
projects
in
parallel
and
when
talking
about
printing
different
designs,
one
other
project,
that's
going
on
ohio
state
is
figuring
out.
C
How
do
we
create
a
by
a
3d
printed
bypass
prosthesis,
so
the
people
that
are
engineering?
These
different
designs,
making
these
different
designs
can
actually
experience.
What
is
it
like
to
use
this
design?
Is
it
actually,
you
know
as
effective
as
I
think
it
is,
or
do
I
need
to
improve
some
of
the
mechanical
coupling.
B
As
usual,
a
bypass
prosthetic
sounds
like
what
we
call
an
empathy
on
something
that
they
you
can
put
on
a
full
arm
and
still
get
to
manipulate
things
with
the
prosthetic.
Is
that
right.
C
D
Those
you
said
on
your
website.
You
have
sort
of
these
reports
of
your
reviews
of
current
prosthetics,
how
they
work
and
don't
work
sort
of
like
from
the
engineering
standpoint
that
could
be
really
useful
if,
if
they're
public.
C
Yeah,
so
I
I
would
maybe
I
misspoke.
Maybe
there
was
miss
hearing,
but
there's
been
a
music
communication.
We
don't
have
reports
on
these
different
devices
just
yet
right
now.
We
have
basically
like
this
is
a
like.
This
is
a
device.
Here's
where
you
can
get
the
files,
here's
the
crash
course
and
how
to
do
it
right.
A
C
It's
it's
simply
providing
the
information
to
people
in
a
centralized
location.
Ultimately,
we
would
like
to
have
engineering
reports
on
these
different
devices.
C
Talking
about
like
okay,
we
did
you
know
iso
testing
on
all
these
different
components
with
you
know
these
printing
parameters
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
with
the
motivation
being
like
what
you
said
to
make
it
public.
So
people
can
understand
like
okay.
Well,
you
know,
based
on
the
testing
that
they
did
at
you
know
this
university
at
this
time
it
would
make
sense
to
use
nylon
with
you
know,
80
infill,
or
something
like
that.
I'm
just
spewing
out
numbers
here.
C
Those
are
not
actual
numbers
that
you
should
be
using,
but
you
get
the
gist
of
what
I'm
saying
so,
based
on
the
testing,
people
can
have
a
better
sense
of
what
is
the
right
printer,
the
right
materials,
the
right
parameters
to
use
when
making
devices.
D
C
That'd
be
great
one
thing
that
we
are
actively
working
on
is
figuring
out.
What's
the
best
way
for
us
to
engage
with
groups
that
have
similar
missions
that
are
not
explicitly
like
an
api
club
or
something
like
that,
so
working
with
you,
know,
ap
or
enable
at
the
national
level
working
with
different
enabled
clubs.
I
also
know
there
are
at
least
a
handful
of
different
university
clubs
around
the
country
that
aren't
officially
affiliated
with
enable
or
api.
B
C
A
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt,
but
I
actually
had
one
question
before
we
moved
on
from
that
slide.
If
you
don't
mind
in
terms
of
the
the
fda
approval
goal,
my
understanding
of
that
process,
which
may
be
very
limited,
is
that
they're
when
they
look
at
something
they're
going
to
be
looking
not
just
at
the
design
but
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
production
facilities
and
production.
That's
correct!
Yep!
How
do
you
deal
with
that
in
a
space
like
this.
C
Yeah
yeah,
no,
that's
a
fantastic
question,
and
so
we
have
not
come
up
with
a
entire
answer
to
that.
Just
yet
one
thought
that
we
had
about
how
we
might
be
able
to
solve
that
problem
is
to
work
with
a
company
such
as
three
systems.
As
an
example,
it's
just
the
first
one
that
comes
to
mind
is
a
3d
printing
company.
I
don't
know
if
3d
universe
provides
printing
as
a
you
know,
like
I
don't
know.
C
C
Basically,
it's
like
we
get
the
design
approved
to
be
printed
with
these
standards.
You
know
with
this
company
right
right,
and
so
then
you
know
if
a
prosthetist
would
like
you
know
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
safe
fda
approved
device.
Then
they
can
work
with
3d
systems
to
do
that
right.
So
obviously
blaze
or
something
like
that.
Yeah
exactly
and
there
are
a
bunch
of
on-demand
3d
printing
companies
out
there
can't
say
I'm
privy
to
all
of
them.
3D
systems
is
just
the
one
that
I've
used
in
my
research
yeah.
C
C
You
know
we're
we're
a
team
of
about
I'd,
say,
150,
strong
and
that's
you
know,
went
from
20
to
150
over
the
last
year
or
so,
but
obviously
you
know
enable
has
almost
2000
people
working
with
you
guys
so
any
feedback
that
anyone
has
I'd
love
to
hear
about
and
I'll
have
my
contact
information
on
the
last
slide
and
I'll
just
leave
that
up
as
we
discuss
so
before
we
get
to
that.
Where
is
api
so,
like?
C
I
said,
I'm
from
oregon
originally
the
portland
era,
and
then
I
moved
out
to
columbus,
where
I
started
api,
so
we
have
a
chapter
at
ohio
state
and
then
we
have
a
chapter
here
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh.
This
isn't
entirely
up
to
date
yet,
but
we're
also
working
on
a
chapter
at
the
university
of
maryland
down
at
georgia
tech
up
here
at
brown
university,
and
we
also
have
people
across
the
country
in
oregon,
washington,
los
angeles,
colorado
and
texas,
so
we're
expanding
very
quickly.
C
We
are
still
very
young,
though
that
being
said,
if
anyone
wants
to
work
with
us,
if
anyone
you
know
is
a
university
student
and
they
want
to
start
an
api
chapter
or
work
with
us
and
if
they're,
not
at
a
university,
we
have
people
that
are
volunteering
with
us
that
are
university
students,
people
who
are
not
university
students.
People
are
working
full-time
at
any
level.
We
would
love
to
work
with
you
and
to
that
point
about,
you,
know,
figuring
out.
What's
the
best
way
to
engage,
is
there
a
contact
information?
C
You
want
to
email
me
directly,
president
apiprosthetics.org.
This
is
our
website
and
then
you
can
follow
us
on
instagram,
linkedin
or
twitter
at
api
prosthetics
john
I'd
love
to
talk
about
how
we
can
engage
in
a
more
systematic
way
as
of
right
now.
Basically,
I've
just
said
yeah.
When
we
start
a
chapter,
we
need
to
get
them
cleared.
C
B
Well,
absolutely,
and
that's
that's
a
great
place
to
start
it's
a
great
presentation.
I,
like
the
systematic
way
you're
going
about
doing
this.
Thank
you.
We
would
love
to
add
all
of
your
chapters
for
any
of
your
chapters
that
want
to
be
to
our
list
of
chapters
we'll
put
them
on
the
map.
We
have
a
process
for
doing
that
that
ben
and
bob
can
follow
up
on.
Have
you
spent
any
time
on
the
enable
hub.
B
So
that's
this
community
space
that
we
have
successor
to
our
original
google
plus
community
and
it
has
all
sorts
of
facilities
and
processes
for
supporting
chapters
and
individual
makers,
as
well
as
for
qualifying
chapters
etc.
So
we
will
get
you
connected
with
that
as.
B
C
B
We've
been
thinking
about
that
we
do
have
a
very
successful
constellation
in
the
southeast
jeff
powell's
group,
helping
hands
which
has
created
quite
an
elaborate
handbook,
which
we
are
reviewing
in
parallel
with
this
much
awaited
presentation
of
yours.
So
that's.
The
first
thing
is
just
to
introduce
you
to
the
hub,
see
if
we
can
get
you
and
your
chapters
to
share
your
work
and
our
facilities
there
and
without
I
think,
threatening
your
autonomy
or
your
independent
vision,
which
I
really
value
and
appreciate.
B
C
Yeah
absolutely,
and
so
so
I
mean
obviously
the
way
we
got
in
contact
with
you
is
through
our
ohio
state
chapter
became
a
naval
chapter,
and
then
you
were
trying
to
interview
newer
chapters,
and
you
know
I
was
told
by
our
osu
president
that
happened.
I
was
like
hey.
Let
me
talk
to
them,
because
I
want
to
talk
to
them
since
we're
already.
C
You
know
in
that
method
of
communication,
and
you
know
the
way
that
we
connected
with
new
albany
high
school,
where
we're
trying
to
develop
our
after
school
program.
They
found
us
on
enable
as
well
or
through
your
enable
hub,
and
they
said
hey,
how
can
we
help
print
devices?
C
So
you
know
osu
hasn't,
had
anyone
reach
out
yet,
but
again,
that's
kind
of
the
point
about
hamza
3d
already,
you
know,
develops
the
devices
and
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
familiar
with
form
5
prosthetics,
also
based
out
of
columbus,
yeah,
so
yeah
in
in
columbus,
specifically
there's
not.
We
would
not
be
filling
that
need
right,
yeah,
yeah,
so
we're
that
that's
part
of
to
that
point
about.
C
You
know
bob's
question
about
how
many
people
have
we
given
devices
to
well,
if
other
people
are
serving
that
need
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
is
the?
What
are.
C
A
In
the
community
that
seem
to
be
the
main
focus,
I
you
know
in
listening
to
your
presentation
and
excuse
me
looking
at
how
we
compare.
I,
I
see
another
area
of
opportunity,
potentially
because
one
of
the
differences
that
I
see
obviously,
is
just
the
nature
of
our
organizations.
This
is
a
bigger
conversation,
but
fundamentally
enable
being
a
non-organization.
A
Essentially
there
is
nobody
in
charge
of
enable
it's
just
this
collection
of
volunteers
and
chapters
that
has
some
challenges
as
compared
to
an
organization
like
yours
that
has
a
president
somebody
in
charge.
That
can
say
you
know
you
can
listen
to
all
your
team
members
and
get
input
from
everybody.
But
then
you
can
say
all
right.
Here's
what
we're
gonna
do
and
you
can
actually
get
things
done
in
a
way
that
is
sometimes
a
little
bit
difficult
for
us,
because
we
need
consensus
on
everything.
A
Combine
that
with
the
fact
that
you
have
access
to
some
sounds
like
some
skilled
prosthetists.
You
have
the
right
knowledge
base.
There.
You
mentioned
some
things
like
putting
together
little
leaflets
or
brochures
little
things
like
that
could
be
very
valuable
contributions
as
sort
of
open
source.
You
know
document
releases,
in
other
words,
you
know
the
same
thing
that
we
did
years
back
that
allowed
you
to
do
what
you're
doing
that
is:
releasing
open
source
designs.
A
Look
your
engineers
might
come
up
with
some
new
designs
down
the
road,
but,
like
you
said
that
takes
a
lot
of
time.
They
may
or
may
not
come
up
with
something
worth
sharing,
but
some
of
these
things
that
you
mentioned
along
the
way
like
some
of
the
guidance,
some
of
the
overview
documents
that
you're
going
to
come
up
with.
I
think
people
in
our
community
are
hesitant
to
put
together
things
like
that,
because
nobody
wants
to
like
put
themselves
forward
as
like
here.
This
is
going
to
be
the
for
the
community.
A
You
know
nobody
wants
to
like
be
that
official
voice,
but
you
you're
in
a
position
where
you
could
put
things
together
like
that
in
a
very
high
quality
and
if
you're
willing
to
make
some
of
those
things
available
to
our
community,
where
we
could
leverage
them.
That
could
be
a
great
value
as
well,
so
there's
other,
I
think,
opportunities
for
collaboration
other
than
the
production
of
devices.
C
Yeah,
absolutely
and
so
jeremy.
To
that
point
you
know
what
we
ultimately
want
to
do.
Then
I
saw
you
raise
your
hand,
no
we'll
don't
worry.
I
just
want
to
respond
to
jeremy.
So
to
that
point,
all
of
these
you
know
leaflets
and
whatnot
that
we
are
going
to
make
that
we're
going
to
make
and
all
the
different
designs
and
whatnot.
Ideally
you
know
these
are
gonna,
be
as
accessible
to
the
public
as
possible.
C
Now
one
constraint
within
that
right
is,
you
know,
as
the
engineers
are
working
with
us,
if
those
engineering
projects,
if
they
decide
that
they
want
to
start
a
company
or
something
you
know
of
that
ilk,
I'm
certainly
not
going
to
stop
them
from
doing
that,
but
would
certainly
encourage
them
to
continue
to
engage
with
us
and
make
those
designs
as
available
as
possible.
It's
not
my
if
it's
not
my
design,
it's
not
my
intellectual
property
to
share
right!
C
C
Input
on
you
know,
like
I
said,
with
the
leaflets
working
with
the
orthotics
and
prosthetics
department
here
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh,
hopefully
working
with
the
orthotics
and
prosthetic
department
at
the
university
of
washington
and
working
with
dr
herwitz
who's,
a
doctor
in
physical
medicine,
rehabilitation
here
at
upmc
having
those
leaflets
designed
by
clinicians
and
hopefully,
basically
turning
that
into
a
series.
That
is
something
that
we
would
have
available
to
the
public
in
minimally.
Some
kind
of
capacity.
A
A
We
need
to
let
them
know
what
the
process
is
like,
what
we
need
from
them,
how
we
need
to
work
together,
etc,
and
we
don't
really
have
anything
that
does
a
good
job
of
getting
that
all
across
up
front
right,
you're
in
an
interesting
position.
It
seems
to
me,
because
you
kind
of
straddle
both
words.
You
get
the
whole
3d
printing
kind
of
production
side
of
things
you
get
the
prosthetic.
You
know
more,
the
medical,
you
know
side
of
things
yeah,
I
I
it
just
seems
like
you're
in
a
really
good
position.
A
You
have
some
of
the
resources,
maybe
where
you
can
put
together
some
kind
of
a
really
helpful
kind
of
a
guide.
Almost
like
a
pamphlet
or
something
that
we
could
give
out
to
people
right
up
front
to
just
sort
of
help,
set
those
expectations
for
the
process,
and
you
know
what
we
need
from
each
other
to
be
successful.
Thank
you.
C
I
appreciate
hearing
that
jeremy
and
you
know,
as
a
caveat
to
that,
I
certainly
would
not
call
myself
a
prosthetics
expert
or
a
3d
printing
expert,
but
I
try
to
surround
myself
with
other
people
that
know
more
about
these
things
just,
but
I
I
my
goal
is
to
understand
it
all
enough
that
I
can
do
the
big
picture
planning,
but
you
know
when
it
comes
to
technical
decisions.
I
I
try
to
defer
that
to
other
people
that
know
more
than
I
do
as
much
as
possible.
So.
A
C
D
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
intrigued
by
what
john
mentioned
earlier
about
the
educational
network,
that's
something
that,
as
a
community,
has
sort
of
been
kind
of
bubbling
in
the
background
for
a
long
time,
one
third
of
the
hub
members
are
teachers
and
students
and
there's
91
countries
that
are
represented
in
the
hub,
which
is
a
really
very
diverse
population.
D
C
I
wouldn't
say
all
so
most
most
of
the
people
that
are,
volunteering
with
us
are
affiliated
with
the
university,
but
certainly
not
all
of
them
all
of
the
major
presences
or
clubs.
Whatever
you
want
to
call
them
are
universities
at
this
time
we're
not
tied
to
that
by
any
means.
Ultimately,
you
know,
universities
are
a
good
resource
for
us
to
work
with
because
they
have
a
lot
of
other
resources
available
and
they
do
have
more
local
connections
with
communities.
C
But
you
know
certainly
like
there
is
one
ohio
state
in
ohio,
but
there's
a
very
large
population,
very
large
area,
and
if
you
go
out
to
you,
know
colorado
or
wyoming,
where
it's
like.
Okay,
there's
one
flagship
university
and
it's
a
much
larger
state
than
that
right.
So,
ultimately,
we
would
like
to
engage
with
you
know:
community
colleges,
local
maker
spaces,
high
schools,
local
hospitals,
whatever
we
can
right
as
of
right
now,
it's
only
universities
and
john.
I
do
see
that
your
hand
is
raised
so
once
ben's
done
talking
all.
D
And
I
was
just
going
to
add
to
that.
You
know
these
university
clubs,
so
there's
there's
a
pretty
good
collection
of
university
clubs
that
are
sort
of
associated
with
the
same
mission
that
we
all
share
and
we've
got
a
couple
different
groups
in
different
clusters.
D
One
of
the
things
that
enable
has
been
able
to
observe-
which
I
think
is
really
exciting-
is
regionally
like
in
turkey.
There
can
be
these
huge
networks,
I
mean
they
have
3
000
volunteers
that
are
all
connected
to
the
same
system.
That's
assigning
different
cases
and
coordinating
and
saying
okay,
we've
got
somebody
that
needs
something
over
here.
We've
got
experts
in
that
region.
Let's
get
them
together
in
a
team.
D
I'd
love
to
learn
about
some
of
the
coordination
that
you
guys
have
been
doing
with
this
network
and
see
if
that
could
be
a
model
for
some
of
these
other
schools
and
maybe
bring
all
of
the
clubs
together.
All
of
the
universities
that
are
partnering
with
with
different
schools
and
and
see
how
that
scales.
C
Yeah,
absolutely
ben,
and
so
that
that's
something
that
we've
been
talking
about
actively,
as
I
said
before,
university
cincinnati
and
abel
had
reached
out
to
us.
C
The
naval
chapter
at
notre
dame
the
their
president
is
actually
working
on
one
of
our
projects
right
now
over
the
summer
at
the
university
of
pittsburgh,
and
we
also
connected
with
riley
cole,
who
is
the
president
of
a
found,
president
of
a
similar
club
at
the
university
of
tennessee,
and
so
we've
been
chewing
on
that
idea
about
like
what
is
the
best
way
for
us
to
engage
with
all
these
different
universities.
C
One
thing
that
we
are
starting
to
do
we're
piloting
it
this
year
is:
we
will
have
an
api
retreat
where
we
actually
provide
training
to
our
different
clubs
about
you,
know:
leadership,
techniques
and
recruitment,
community
engagement,
internal
communications,
how
do
they
function
effectively
as
a
club
and
so
on
and
so
forth?
And
hopefully
you
know
this
is
on
our
radar,
something
that
we
would
like
to
do
in
the
future,
but
we
don't
have
a
date
for
it.
C
So
don't
hold
me
to
this
eventually
having
some
kind
of
almost
3d
printed
prosthetics
conference,
but
specifically
built
for
colleges
and
community
members.
Where
it's
you
know,
hey,
I'm
volunteering,
I'm
not
a
researcher,
necessarily
I'm
not
a
scientist
necessarily,
but
I
am
part
of
the
api
community
or
the
naval
community
and
again
providing
a
centralized
location
for
training
resources
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
it
is
something
that
we
definitely
thought
about
before
ben
and
I
am
really
excited
to
get
that
going.
C
Part
of
it,
of
course,
is
a
matter
of
time
and
effort.
You
know
I'm
a
graduate
student
and
there's
only
and
everyone
else
is
a
volunteer
as
well.
So
there's
only
so
much
that
we
can
do
at
once
and
we
are
very
young,
but
it
is
certainly
something
that
we've
been
thinking
about.
I'd
love
to
hear
more
input
on
it.
B
Okay,
so
I
did
want
to
say
that
your
your
average
and
your
norm
of
meeting
with
amputee
coalition
groups
and
requiring
which
is
not
something
we
typically
do,
but
it's
a
really
nice
thing
that
your
chapters
meet,
have
a
liaison
to
the
amputee
coalition
groups
is,
I
think,
a
really
important
initiative.
B
I
would
encourage
you
to
pursue
that.
I
would
encourage
you
to
think
about
ways
in
which
we
can
together
use
that
relationship
those
relationships
and
your
relationships
with
the
professionals
that
you
encounter
at
the
universities
to
sort
of
develop
those
linkages.
Those.
C
B
Clearly,
critical,
they're,
clearly
underutilized
and
in
some
ways
it's
it's
harder
for
us
to
do
that,
because
we're
so
dispersed
and
so
well
known
and
in
the.
B
We
were
sort
of
the
sparring
partner
for
the
professional
organizations,
and
so
they
know.
C
B
That
way,
I
think
your
university
and
academic
orientation
and
the
way
you're
going
about
this,
make
that
liaison
shift
to
the
professional
and
support
communities,
a
particular
superpower
for
you
and
your
chapters
there's
a
lot
of
what
you're
aspiring
to
do,
which
we
also
aspire
to
and
the
more
who
do
it
the
better.
But
I
think
there
are
certain
areas
in
which
you
may
be
able
to
have
some
unique
successes
and
some
unique
contributions
to
make
and
I'm
going
to
be
keeping
an
eye
on
those.
B
So
my
question
actually
was:
do
you
have
sort
of
a
charter
or
guidelines
for
your
new
chapters?
That
say
these
are
the
rules.
This
is
what
you
need
to
do.
Here's
how
you
reach
out
to
amputee
coalition
groups,
because
that
practice
is
one
that
I
don't
know
whether
we
will
require,
but
we
might
well
say
here's
a
group
that
is
specialized
on
this
particular
practice.
B
C
C
That
is
something
that
we
like
when
I
started
api.
That
was
something
I
wanted
to
do
was
to
to
serve
as
that
liaison
between
the
professionals,
the
clinicians,
the
engineers,
the
academics
and
the
maker
community
people
that
are
just
they're
helping
right.
They
are
doing
all
that
they
can
to
help
it's
kind
of
that
mentality,
that
anyone
can
help
and
and
whenever
anyone
says
I
want
to
get
involved
with
api.
But
I
don't
think
I
have
the
expertise.
C
I'm
like
I
promise
you
have
a
skill
set
that
we
can
use
and
that's
part
of
why
we're
able
to
be
so
large
and
have
you
know
these
different
projects
going
on,
because
we
have
people
that
are
specialized
in
you
know
like
marketing
and
advertising,
and
we
have
people
that
are
specialized
in
engineering.
We
have
people
that
are
you
know,
clinicians,
and
so
on
so
forth.
We
try
to
make
sure
we
try
to
have
that
mentality
of
everyone
has
a
meaningful
skill
set
because
they
do
to
your
question
about.
C
C
We
both
have
a
lot
of
experience
as
organizational
leaders
and
community
leaders
and
something
that
we
realized
was
the
best
way
to
do
this
from
our
experiences
was
have
some
kind
of
chartering
checklist
have
a
list
of
things
that
someone
needs
to
get
done
before
they
can
be
considered
chapter
and
a
list
of
ways
that
we
expect
them
to
continuing
to
engage
with
us
similar
to
you
know
for
becoming
an
enable
chapter.
They
have
to
print
an
arm
right.
They
have
to
print
out
a
different
device
and
send
a
picture
of
that.
C
Ours
is
more
elaborate
than
that,
to
say
the
least.
It's
really
kind
of
a
three-step
process
that
we
expect
people
to
get
done
over
the
course
of
about
a
year
or
a
year
and
a
half,
but
we
basically
say
you
know
this
is
what
we've
seen
you
know:
works
go
engage
with
these
kinds
of
organizations,
figure
out
who's
in
your
community
to
work
with
and
once
you
know,
you've
found
those
organizations.
This
is
how
you
should
be
engaging
with
them,
because
we
found
the
system
that
works
now
go.
B
Keeps
sort
of
sending
me
messages,
which
I
then
advance
as
if
they
were
my
own,
but
one
of
them
is
to
point
out
that
we
have
a
badging
system
and
a
badging
infrastructure
which
might
be
something
useful
for
you
to
use
to
structure
some
of
your
activities
with
the
groups
as
well
as
a
way
of
exposing.
What
what
other
possibilities
to
your
groups
could.
D
Yeah,
I
can
actually
jump
in
there.
The
hub
has
this
new
badging
integration,
where,
if
anybody
is
interacting
in
the
hub,
you
can
scroll
over
an
icon
and
you
can
see
which
badges
they
have
and
each
one
is
a
specific
process.
D
That's
that's
detailed
out,
there's
things
that
are
submitted
actually
bob
who's
on.
This
call
is
involved
with
reviewing
those
cases.
That's
that's
part
of
the
the
work
that
he
does
it.
It
does
make
me
wonder
if
you
know
maybe
api
could
have
if
there's
some
specific
educational
processes
that
you
guys
are
doing.
We
could
maybe
look
at
some
kind
of
a
collaboration
of
making
a
bad
series
related
to
that
yeah
and,
having
that
be
something
that.
A
Clarify,
if
you
don't
mind,
so
this
is
a
digital
badging
platform
dylan,
it's
actually
on
the
back
end,
it's
badger.io
and
it's
so
they
use
open
standards,
for
you
know,
certifying
and
verifying
badges,
but
they're
awarded
digitally
and
each
badge
has
specifically
defined
criteria
of
what
you
need
to
submit
as
evidence.
Some
of
them
get
manually
reviewed.
Some
of
them
are
more
automated,
but
ultimately
these
are
digital,
badges
that
get
issued
and
then
can
be
used
in
different
ways
and
shared
online
and
that
kind
of
gotcha.
C
Yeah,
yeah
ben,
as
soon
as
you
mentioned
that
badging
system,
my
first
thought
was:
how
can
aba
api
be
involved
in
that
and
something
that
might
be.
You
know
valuable
to
that
point.
Right
is
because
we
have
all
these
different
university
chapters
to
focus
on
this
research.
Prop
these.
You
know
research
and
development
engineering
type
projects
right
if
we
had
a
badge
showing
it's
like.
C
This
is
an
api
university
chapter
which
means
in
and
of
itself
that
means
that
they've
gone
through
kind
of
our
chartering,
checklist
and
they're
doing
community
engage
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
Then
the
other
enabled
chapters
could
know
it's
like.
Okay,
you
know,
ohio
state
group
they're
not
focused
on
you,
know,
distributing
devices
they're
really
focused
on
the
engineering
projects,
and
then
a
group
in
anywhere
in
the
world
can
reach
out
to
the
osu
chapter
and
say:
hey:
can
you
work
with
us
on
this
engineering
project
right?
We
have
this
problem.
C
Can
you
help
us
solve
this
problem?
I
think
that
could
be
really
valuable.
I
think
an
initial
step
would
at
least
be
just
having
an
api
badge
and
then
maybe
past
that
api
can
work
with
enable
to
provide.
Like
you
know,
we
have
our
internal
training
and
we're
not
ready
to
open
that
up
to
everyone.
Yet
our
ultimate
goal
is
to
make
it
you
know
available
to
everyone.
C
We
just
need
to
work
out
the
kinks
internally
first,
but
then
eventually
we
can
have
different
kinds
of
modules
that
people
can
work
through,
hopefully,
and
then
that
could
be
involved
in
the
badging
system.
A
C
A
C
Yeah,
I
think
that'd
be
fantastic.
I
do
know
one
one
of
the
issues
that
we've
had
right
is
since
one
of
the
requirements
you
know
to
be
an
enabled
chapter
is
that
you
have
to
print
the
arm,
since
we
have
all
of
the
clubs,
except
for
ohio
state
have
been
established
during
this.
You
know
time
of
covid
they've
been
really
struggling
to
access
physically
access,
the
3d
printers
at
the
university.
C
So
it
might
be
one
of
those
things
where
it's
like,
oh
well,
you
don't
have
to
become
an
enable
organization
traditionally
to
be
on
this
map.
It's
like
you
can
be
enable
or
api
and
all
have
it
on
the
same
map
on
the
hub,
and
we
want
them
to
be
both,
but
to
have
you
know
just
those
different
colored
pens.
I
think
that
would
be
really
valuable
yeah.
I
agree.
D
Right
and
actually
the
the
extension
of
that
we've
talked
about
a
separate
entity
for
for
educational
teams
and
groups.
It
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
focused
on
you
know
what
we've
defined
as
a
chapter
is
just
one
sort
of
way
of
thinking
about
it,
but
one
third
of
the
membership
is
educational
teams,
and
some
of
them,
like
the
teams
that
you're
talking
about,
are
focused
on
engineering
they're,
focused
on
different
aspects
of
supporting
this
initiative.
So
I
think
that's
a
really
great
point.
C
Perfect
yeah
I
mean
maybe
there
could
be
different
badges.
It's
like.
Oh,
our
focus
is
in
engineering
and
development
right
or
something
like
that,
and
I
mean
that
that
could
even
just
be
passively
said.
It's
like
you
know.
If
they're
an
api
chapter,
it
means
they're
focused
on
education,
community,
engagement
and
well
we're
actually
in
the.
A
Process
of
kind
of
regrouping
and
redesigning
our
some
of
our
badges
to
address
that.
What
we're
going
to
have
is
a
grouping
and
kind
of
sub
categorization,
so
that
you'll
have
a
kind
of
a
particular
badge
design,
maybe
for
the
api
badge.
But
then
they
have
these
kind
of
ribbon.
Overlays
that
might
have
you
know
the
specialization.
So
you
can
have
different
badges
for
those
different
types.
C
B
C
Would
it
be
so
you're
saying
someone's
you
were
saying
some
of
these
are
just
manually
reviewed?
Would
it
be
possible
just
to
be
like
hey,
they
want
to
be
an
api
club
and
then
have
someone
in
our
you
know.
That's.
A
Right
we
would
somebody
on
your
team
would
be
made
a
moderator,
they'd
be
given
access
to
the
space
that
we
use
on
the
hub,
where
it's
basically
a
dashboard.
You
see
all
the
incoming
badge
requests
the
ones
that
happen
to
be
of
this
category.
You
know
they
would
go
ahead
and
just
click
on
them.
You
can
see
the
evidence
you
can
review
it,
you
can
approve
or
decline
or
comment
or
whatever
so
we'd
give
them
access
to
that
to
that
facility.
C
A
Ben's
been
putting
links
in
the
chat
there,
so
the
second
to
last
link
he
put
up
is
the
badging
page.
So
yeah
you
have
a
chance
just
browse
through
there
and
you'll
see
our
badge
you'll
see
what
we
do.
We
have
a
description
of
what
the
badge
is
for
then
we
have
the
criteria
for
earning
it
and
you
know
the
evidence
that
we're
looking
for
how
you
submit
it,
etc.
So,
just
if
you
give
us
that
information
and
give
us
your
graphic,
that's
all
we
need.
We
can
have
it
set
up
in
minutes.
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
that's
why
I
exited
out
of
screen
share
for
a
minute,
so
I
could
open
up
those
links,
so
they
don't
disappear
with
collins.
C
Again,
like
I
said
one
of
the
valuable
things
about
that
is
that
other
enabled
chapters
know
it's
like
okay,
they're
working
with
api,
so
we
know
that
they
have
these
kinds
of
initiatives
and
then
another
thing
this
could
provide
is
that
if
people,
if
clubs
want
to
become
an
api
chapter,
they
can
like
request
the
badge
and
then
we
reach
out
be
like
hey
you're,
not
on
our
roster
right
now
exactly
this
is
what
you're
gonna
have
to
do
to
make.
C
It
happen
right,
but
I
think
the
easiest
way
to
do
that
would
just
be
like
give
you
guys
my
contact
information,
I
mean.
Obviously
you
have
my
contact
information,
my
contact
information,
your
keegan's
contact
information,
whoever
we
want
to
manage
that
and
then
our
logo
and
then
that's
exactly
all
the
criteria,
just
direct
it
over
to
them
and
they'll,
approve
it
or
disapprove
it
or
whatever.
C
I'll
have
to
talk
to
our
leadership
team,
just
figure
out
who's
the
best
person
to
do
that
preliminarily.
It
can
be
me,
but
I
have
other
responsibilities.
That
would
mean
I
can't
do
this
indefinitely,
but
at
least
to
start
I
could
be
that
person.
D
A
D
D
You
know
this
idea
of
looking
at
steps
that
university
chapters
can
take
sort
of
it's
almost
like
an
accreditation
that
can
take
place
through
the
badging
system
based
on
you
know
this,
this
strategy,
this
process,
it
seems
really
exciting
and
I'd
love
to
you
know
again
it's
the
bigger
ideas
you
know
having
these
badges
be
moderated
with
with
collaboration
with
different
teams,
and
I'm
really
impressed
with
the
presentation
that
you
gave,
and
it
really
seems
like
a
great
way
for
universities
to
engage.
C
Yeah
absolutely
thanks
for
having
me,
I
had
a
thought-
and
I
just
forgot
it.
Oh
yeah.
So,
to
the
point
about
you
know,
universities
and
having
that
accreditation.
You
know,
there's
just
some
things
that
you
can
do
universities
that
you
can't
really
do
at
other
places
like
the
project
that
I
mentioned
at
ohio,
state
and
university
of
pittsburgh.
C
You
know
in
total,
they've
gotten
like
over
twenty
thousand
dollars
between
the
two
of
them
to
do
some
of
this
engineering
work,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
teach
people
it's
like
hey.
This
is
how
you
apply
for
those
kind
of
grants
and
I
walked
through
those
grant
applications
with
both
of
the
groups
just
to
help
them
get
that
funding.
So
they
can
do
these
projects
so
to
anyone
at
a
university
out
there
who's
listening.
I
would
be
happy,
I
hesita!
C
Well,
I
guess
I'm
saying
it
now,
but
I
would
love
to
work
with
you
as
much
as
I
can.
Obviously
I
have
time
constraints.
My
email
is
right
there.
Let
us
know
how
we
can
help.
I
will
do
what
I
can
with
the
time
that
I
have
don't.
C
A
So
this
is,
you
know
this
will
be
up
on
our
live
on
our
youtube
channel.
So
we'll
we'll
get
that
link
over
to
you.
If
you
care
to
share
it
with
anyone
and
definitely
hope
we
follow
up
and
talk
further
about
how
to
collaborate.
Maybe
we
can
connect
just
by
email
and
talk
about
how
to
kind
of
follow
up
on
the
badging
thing.
That
sounds
like
a
natural
next
step
and.
C
Yeah
I'll
look
at
that
sometime
this
afternoon,
I'll
reach
out
about
it,
but
I
really
think
it's
just.
A
And
we
can
also,
by
the
way,
like
I
mentioned,
that
some
of
them
are
automated,
so
you
could
have
it
where
once
a
certain
set
of
badges
is
earned,
another
badge
gets
issued
automatically,
so
you
mentioned
that
it's
like
basically
a
three-step
process.
You
could,
if
you
want,
have
a
badge
as
they
complete
each
step
and
then
they
automatically
get
a
badge
for
being.
You
know
certified
once
they've
completed
them.
Things
like
that
are
available
too.
If
you
choose.
C
A
C
C
What
makes
sense
for
now
so
I'll
just
review
the
badge
system
I'll,
give
you
our
logo,
and
I
will
tell
you
what
email
to
include
to
have
it
manually
sent
to
but
sounds
great
perfect
all
right.
B
Pasted
some
next
steps
into
the
chat,
which
I
think
are
things
that
we
already
know
we
want
to
do
and
perfect.
Presumably
it's
the
beginning
of
a
a
longer
development
of
the
collaboration.
Thank
you.