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From YouTube: Weekly e-NABLE Town Hall Meeting - February 17, 2022
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This is a recording of the weekly e-NABLE Town Hall meeting.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: https://bit.ly/e-nable-town-hall-notes
If you want to join into the meeting itself, you are welcome to do so. You'll find the Zoom link in the events calendar on the Hub.
B
Okay,
we
are
live,
welcome
back
everyone
to
another
town
hall.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
here
and
get
our
notes
up
and
we're
going
to
dive
right
into
it.
And
oh
there's
Adam
welcome
good
morning
Sarah's
here,
hi,
okay!
So
let's
just
go
through
our
usual
items,
then
we're
going
to
talk
some
about
our
release
of
liability
agreement,
which
is
something
that
Connie's
here
to
talk
about
and
has
some
questions
so
we'll
get
to
that
shortly.
Action
items
Sarah,
update
and
published
the
press
release
response
for
Ukraine.
C
You
here
I
think
both
websites
have
been
updated
with
the
physical
address,
so
I
I
scheduled
the
press
release
to
go
out
today
and
unless
there
are
any
objections
or
anyone
wants
me
to
add
or
change,
anything
I
can
send
it
out
today,
but
wanted
to
wait
until
the
town
hall
just
to
be
sure.
B
D
D
D
D
B
All
right,
my
dog,
is
going
crazy
on
the
hardwood
floors
upstairs
so
you're
probably
gonna
hear
some
scraping:
okay,
Jeremy
update
ETF
site
with
street
address.
That
was
done.
So
it's
on
the
bottom
of
the
site.
Kind
of
in
the
footer
I
didn't
make
it
very
visible,
but
the
Crawlers
can
find
it
Jeremy
reach
out
to
Microsoft
non-profit
support
team.
All
right,
I
did
spend
some
time
researching.
This
I
did
find
my
way
to
the
non-profit
Grant
renewal,
which
had
expired
in
October
I.
B
As
far
as
I'm
aware,
I
never
got
any
notifications
or
any
kind
anything
like
that,
but
there
was
a
one-click
renewal,
so
I
clicked
it
and
it's
renewed
problem
is
it's
a
grant
for
thirty
five
hundred
dollars
and
we're
currently
at
something
like
Fifty
four
hundred
dollars
a
year
at
our
consumption
rate.
So
we're
going
to
run
through
that
before
the
year
is
out.
B
B
Right
now
we
are
I,
did
have
a
meeting
with
Brent
about
the
the
new
matching
platform
which
he's
interested
in
being
involved
with
he's
not
going
to
be
available
to
really
work
on
it
for
at
least
several
months,
so
it
kind
of
depends
on
whether
we
could
find
somebody
else
to
help
us
get
that
going
sooner,
but
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
on
that.
So
anyway,
as
far
as
this
action
item
goes,
I
think
this
is
done.
B
I
still
need
to
work
on
the
setup
on
Azure
to
reduce
our
monthly
spend.
But
at
least
the
grant
is
reactivated.
D
This
next
one
is
yeah:
go
ahead,
I'm,
sorry
Jeremy
I'm
just
wondering
so
there
were
some
months,
which
is
when
the
billing
started,
when
the
Grant
had
expired,
and
suddenly
you
started
getting
bills,
but
if
they're
perfectly
willing
to
do
it,
I
wonder
if
they'd
be
willing
to
retro
apply
the
grant.
Oh,
but
finding
a
human
is
hard,
I'm
sure
you'll
take
it
up
at
the
conspiracy.
B
This
is
what
you're
talking
about,
so
this
is
from
the
last
time
that
we
got
reimbursed
from
the
enable
fund.
This
is
when
the
billing
continued
so
notice
that
our
our
grant
expired
in
October,
but
we
were
getting
billed
from
July.
So
that's
because
we
had
already
consumed
the
Grant
from
last
year,
and
so
we.
C
B
Getting
billed
again
in
July
and
so
yeah
as
of
now
I'm,
another
3100
out
of
pocket,
but
right
now
my
focus
is
just
on
getting
the
the
setup.
You
know
configured
so
we're
not
getting
billed
so
much
and
then
we'll
figure
out
right
what
to
do
about
that.
B
Okay,
so
I'll
report
back
on
that
soon
Jeremy
and
Adam
to
meet
to
work
on
Trello
an
Associated
process.
So
we
got
a
meeting
on
the
schedule
for
next
Tuesday.
Thank
you
Adam!
B
So
we've
got
a
one
hour
work
session,
we're
going
to
work
through
how
to
kind
of
optimize
this
and
why
am
I
offline
anyway
kind
of
we've,
gotta
I
think
we've
got
the
right
tool
now,
it's
a
a
matter
of
figuring
out
kind
of
what
do
we
wrap
around
this
and
how
do
we
make
it
work
within
the
enabled
environment?
How
do
we
share
it
with
volunteers?
How
do
we
get
people
tied
into
this?
B
B
Good
and
then
me
to
coordinator
meeting
with
Adam
and
Illinois
assistive
technology
program
sent
out
an
email
this
morning,
introduced
those
teams
and
gave
them
a
link
to
schedule
something.
So
that's
in
progress,
no
special
presentations
coming
up.
So
let's
take
a
peek
at
our
metrics.
It
looked
pretty
similar
now,
I,
don't
think.
Rick
has
started
updating
the
chapter
number
yet
I
I.
We
should
talk
to
him
about
that,
because
at
this
point
we
should
have
some
kind
of
a
better
sense.
B
I
know
we're
not
to
a
final
number
yet,
but
I'm
guessing
he's,
probably
taken.
You
know
some
off
the
list
by
now
maybe
added
some
I'd
be
curious
to
know
where
we
stand
as
of
now
I'm,
not
missing
him
right,
he's
not
he's
not
here
today,
all
right!
No,
it
doesn't
look
like
it.
Okay,
all
right!
B
So,
let's
move
on
okay
from
The
Hub
we've
got
one
post
from
Rashad
requesting
some
help:
printing
Cupertino
base
High
School
chapter
leader
in
the
process
of
putting
10
Phoenix,
unlimited
Arms,
adult
size,
five
right,
five
left
plan
to
have
an
event
to
assemble
These
Arms
in
April
or
early
June,
then
donate
the
arms
to
an
organization
in
Ghana
interesting.
It
sounds
like
they
got
a
connection
out
there.
That's
that's
pretty
cool.
B
Would
anyone
be
willing
to
help
with
printing
some
arms
force
and
sending
them
to
us
unassembled
I
need
the
entire
arm
would
mean
a
single
chocolate
brown
color,
okay.
Well,
we
have
such
materials.
For
those
who
may
not
be
aware,
we
offer
pet
G
in
a
range
of
skin
tones,
including
a
dark
chocolate
brown
that
might
be
good
for
this
and
I
know
we
have
some
volunteers
all
out
there
already
using
those.
B
So
I
guess
we're
putting
the
call
out
there
for
printing
assistance,
and
this
is
for
arms.
So
a
larger
printer
is
helpful.
Not
that
you
need
anything
too
big,
I,
don't
know
what
the
biggest
part
in
an
unlimited
arm
is
I.
Think
it's
that
probably
that
forearm
piece,
so
you
don't
need
anything
huge,
but
just
a
good,
decent
sized
printer
I,
don't
know.
Is
there
anything
else
we
can
do
to
help
promote?
This
is
where
this
was
posted
in
the
main
forum.
B
D
B
Would
yeah
yeah
so
how.
C
Might
be
a
story
I
can
follow.
I
can
follow
up
with
him
and
see
if
I
can
add
something
for
the
March
newsletter.
That.
B
Would
be
great,
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful
and
also
I'll
I'll
Adam,
if
you'll
help
me
to
remember
this
one
for
our
Tuesday
meeting.
This
is
the
great
you
know
opportunity
to
try
something
out
with
you
know.
This
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
would
go
into
Trello.
Potentially
you
know
we
could
use
that
as
a
platform
for
helping
to
you
know
to
get
help
with
other.
You
know,
even
if
it's
not
our
initiative,
something
a
volunteer
is
trying
to
do.
Maybe
there's
a
way
that
we
can
incorporate
that
there.
B
Yep
yep,
okay,
so
we've
got
several
good
ideas
and
Sarah
I'll.
Let
you
follow
up
with
rashab
and
Adam,
and
I
will
talk
about
how
we
might
be
able
to
help
get
some
additional
visibility,
but
I
think
the
newsletter
is
a
great
idea
and
I
know
you'll.
We
always
get
really
good
responses
on
that
when
it's
just
a
matter
of
people
kind
of
using
their
printers
and
idle
time,
just
print
Parts,
they
don't
have
to
assemble
anything.
B
D
And
Sarah,
when
you
do
write
an
article
like
that,
does
that
also
go
up
onto
enabling
the
Future
these
days.
C
B
Yeah
Ben
had
the
way
we
set
up
with
Ben
was
we
gave
him
author
access,
so
he
could.
He
could
write
posts
and
then
Jen
would
just
do
a
final
review
and
she'd
be
the
one
to
publish
them,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
set
you
up
with
a
similar
account
if
you'd
be
willing
to
help
draft
posts.
When
you
have
that
new
content,
it
would
be
very,
very
helpful
sure.
C
B
Let
me
make
an
action
item
for
myself
to
do
that
done.
B
Up
WordPress
account
on
ETF
for
Sarah
will
do
all
right
moving
on
then
our
recurring
events.
Next
one
is
today
and
I'm.
Sorry
I'm
not
gonna,
be
able
to
make
this
one
I
ended
up
with
a
two
meetings
scheduled
over
that
hour,
but
today
is
the
education
and
new
member
Meetup.
Let
me
pop
into
this
month's
summary
I
think
that's
the
last
meeting
of
this
month
other
than
our
town
halls
yeah.
B
Then
I
invite
everyone
to
join.
That's
going
to
be
immediately
following
this
meeting
starting
at
noon.
Eastern
today,
maybe
I'll
be
able
to
catch
the
recording
all
right
so
into
our
discussion,
topics
and
Connie.
Thank
you
for
being
so
patient
Connie's
here
today,
because
she
had
some
questions
about
the
release.
B
Reliability
agreement
you
mentioned
Connie
that
you
have
been
working
with
an
attorney
which
is
I,
was
glad
to
hear
actually
because
we
don't
often
get
you
know
any
kind
of
pro
bono
legal
assistance
here,
so
we
can
benefit
from
what
you're
learning
from
whatever
attorney
you're
working
with
and
if
you're,
if
you're
willing
to,
will
maybe
incorporate
some
of
the
whatever
if
they're
suggested,
changes
and
things
like
that,
we'll
we'll
certainly
be
happy
to
update
our
template
accordingly.
So
talk
to
us
about
what
you've
heard
and
what
questions
you
have
yeah.
A
So
sounds
good
I
mean
overall,
he
said
it
was
seemed
pretty
pretty
well
written,
but
he
had
a
few
questions
that
he
would
like
answers
to
to
kind
of
finalize
everything.
A
The
first
one
he
wanted
to
know
is
enable
a
non-profit,
a
501c3
or
is
it
some
form
of
illegal
entity
and,
as
I
mentioned
previously
wasn't
able
to
find
anything
on
the
website?
You
know
what
enabler
was
classified
as.
B
A
B
And
this
says
we're
linking
to
this
as
a
Google
doc,
but
this
is
not
a
Google
doc.
This
is
a
Word
document
that
has
not
yet
been
converted
to
a
Google
doc,
so
we
we
got
some
housekeeping
to
do
John,
but
let's
first
address
Connie's
question.
This
has
always
been
a
point
of
some
confusion
but
enable
itself
as
a
community
does
not
exist
as
any
kind
of
legal
entity.
There
is
no
enable
corporate
headquarters.
There
is
no
legal
organization
that
represents
the
whole
Community.
B
There
are
non-profits
like
Rochester,
enable
limited
that
John
heads
up,
which
is
a
fiscal
sponsor
for
the
enable
fund.
There
are
many
chapters
that
have
their
own
501c3
non-profits,
but
none
of
those
501c3s
represent
the
overall
global
volunteer
community.
So
we
are
more
of
a
a
collection
of
independent
and
semi-autonomous
volunteers
and
chapters
with
no
Central
entity
that
represents
and
has
control
legally
over.
All
of
it.
A
B
D
So,
as
you
can
see,
enable
is
a
movement
right,
it's
just
a
bunch
of
people
and
chapters
Loosely
organized
it
is
Loosely
organized
to
the
extent
that
it
is
organized
globally
by
this
very
group
The.
D
The
CCC
and.
D
You
know
anyone
can
interact
with
it
and
every
anyone
can
show
up
so
that
meets
bi-weekly,
but
we
don't
really
have
any
power.
We
just
convene
these
meetings.
D
One
of
the
things
we
do,
however,
is
discuss
community
events
and
help
the
community
make
decisions
about
the
allocation
of
funding
by
funds
by
the
enabled
sorry
allocation
of
funds
by
the
enabled
fund
and
the
way
we
do
that
is
through
a
voting
process
via
Lumia,
and
so,
but
you
actually
get
is
something
like
this.
D
So
there's
the
movement,
there
is
a
501c3,
it
has
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
the
bank,
and
the
directors
are
me
and
Martin
bresberg
and
Evan
Blackman
and
frankly,
if
someone
else
wanted
to
be
on
the
board,
they
would
be
most
welcome,
but
our
only
real
function
as
a
non-profit
is
to
make
make
it
possible
for
people
to
make
donations
which
go
into
the
enable
fund,
and
we
have
minimized
our
corporate
liability
as
directors,
because
our
main
responsibility
is
just
obeying
the
will
of
the
community
as
determined
by
the
voting
process
on
Lumia.
D
So,
in
answer
to
your
attorney's
probable
next
question:
there
are
directors,
there's
no
director
and
liability
insurance.
It's
never
really
been
necessary
that
we
did
worry
about
that
in
the
past
in
part,
because
our
mission
is
just
to
be
the
fiscal
sponsor
for
the
movement
and
to
do
the
filings
on
the
enable
fund.
But
decisions
are
in
the
hand
of
the
community
which
allows
us
to
say
we're
just
doing
what
the
community
said.
It
would
do
and
that's
all
we
claim
that
we
do
as
to
the
IRS.
A
B
A
B
I
was
doing
that
I
found
my
way
to
the
proper
version
without
all
of
that
be
team,
editing
stuff,
so
I
will
I'm
gonna
have
to
update
this
so
I'm
going
to
share
this
as
a
Google
doc,
but
I'm
going
to
add
a
comment
up
here
that
to
let
people
know
they
have
to
make
a
copy
in
order
to
be
able
to
edit.
So
we
can
keep
the
master
intact
so
I'll
set
that
up.
A
A
You
answered
the
first
one
about
the
legal
and
entity.
The
second
one
I
believe
you
answered.
He
asked
that
have
a
board
of
directors
or
some
other
governing
body.
It
seems
like
there
really
is
no
governing
body.
The
only
governing
body
is
under
the
Rochester
and
they
basically
react
to
the
community-based
decisions
to
determine
where
the
funds
go.
I.
B
I
would
say
the
closer
thing
to
a
governing
body.
Is
this
group
here
the
community
Coordination
Committee,
but
it's
important
to
clarify
that
we're
not
a
governing
body
as
much
as
an
advisory
body.
We
we
act
on
the
wishes
of
the
community,
essentially.
A
A
A
Based
on
voting
okay
and
then
in
there
in
the
actual
document
they
list,
the
state
of
Washington
is
listed
in
the
waiver.
Any
idea
where
Washington
came
from.
A
D
Even
farther
back,
it
must
be
from
enabling
the
future,
Geno
and
and
Ivan
Owen,
who
are
among
our
co-founders,
we're
based
in
Washington
state,
okay,.
A
B
You
know
you're
you,
as
the
volunteer
are
the
one
having
this
agreement
signed
to
protect
you,
so
it
should
be
the
state
you
live,
and
the
whole
idea
here
is
that
if,
if
something
were
to
happen,
you
don't
want
to
have
to
travel
to
some
other
state
to
deal
with
the
legal
mess
and
not
that
that's
ever
going
to
happen.
But
I
would
say
you
definitely
want
this
to
be
your
state.
The
volunteer.
A
Okay
and
I
believe
I
believe
that
answers
all
my
questions,
so
I
can
go
back
to
him
on
that
John.
Is
there
any
way
that
you
can
send
me
that
Word
document
that
you,
where
you
were
highlighting
the
overall
hierarchy
and
the
structure?
Oh.
D
It's
not
even
a
Word
document,
I'll
I'll
paste
one
image,
I'll
put
paste
the
image
into
the
chat,
I've,
also
pasted
into
the
chat
power
EIN
number,
where
you
can
find
some
online
official
information
about
Rochester
enable
Limited,
and
you
can
find
a
little
bit
more
background,
including
information
about
how
funds
are
handled
at
opencollective.com,
rochesterenabled
Limited.
Also
in
the
chat.
A
D
E
A
They
all
assign
a
release
waiver,
it's
more
recently
that
I
took
a.
It
appears
that
the
document
has
changed
since
when
I
first
started
and
I've
been
like
digging
more
into
it,
and
you
know
I'm
confused.
Why
Washington
is
in
there
you
know
and
and
wanted
just
to
make
sure
that
legally,
it
was
solid.
B
Because
what
happens
like
so
many
times
in
this
community
is
there's
just
so
many
different
Hands-On
things
like
this,
and
we
just
would
never
have
caught
that
we
just
lost
sight
of
it.
We
haven't
looked
at
that
document
a
long
time
and
so
I
never
would
have
noticed
that
it
even
mentioned
Washington.
Unless
you
brought
it
up
so
I'm
glad
you
did,
but
we'll
try
to
get
that
fixed
up.
B
I
got
rid
of
that
one
already.
So,
while
we
were
speaking
I
just
removed
that
link
from
the
wiki
entirely
in
both
places
that
it
was
so
right
now,
the
only
link
that's
in
there
on
the
Hub
is
to
the
PDF
and
as
soon
as
I
finish,
making
some
updates
on
the
the
Google
Doc
version.
I
found
I'll
put
that
back
in
as
a
proper
Google
doc
link.
A
Yeah
so
so
some
of
them
have
changed,
some
of
them
have
been
modified,
I
think
I
was
using
the
more
the
older
version.
Okay,
because
it
didn't
have,
you
know,
B
team
in
it
and
some
of
the
other
other
areas
in
it
and
then
I
also
added
in
the
document
that
I
sent
to
him
was
enabled
because
it's
a
Prosthetics
I
think
it
said
hand
Prosthetics,
I,
put
I,
think
I,
wrote
hand,
Prosthetics
or
assisted
device.
E
B
Especially
since
we're
in
the
process
of
kind
of
adding
those
types
of
devices
to
our
catalog
right
now,
it's
good
timing
to
be
updating
that
so
good
catch
and.
A
You
know
and
that's
where
it
was
appears
that
that
document
was
based
out
of
right.
A
He
felt
it
was
well
drafted
and
covers
the
necessary
points,
and
then
he
started
asking
more
questions
into
what
is
enable
the
questions
that
I
asked
you
sure
he
was
suggesting
some
changes
and
changing
the
verbiage
from
release
C's
to
be
more
specific,
so,
for
example,
enable
its
officers,
its
directors,
employees,
agents,
Affiliates,
Associates
and
volunteers,
so
kind
of
spelling
all
that
out
versus
just
throwing
everything
into
release
right.
D
B
It's
also
worth
remembering
that
our
I
think
our
biggest
or
our
strongest
protection
comes
from
the
fact
that
there's
no
exchange
of
money
here
we
don't
sell
these
we're
just
we're
just
helping
somebody
we're
just
giving
them
something,
and
these
are
excuse
me.
The
nature
of
these
devices
are
such
that
it's
to
my
knowledge,
no
harm
has
ever
come
to
anybody
from
any
of
these.
Nor
do
I
expect
it
ever
would
so
you're
talking
about
a
pretty
you
know
pretty
outside
chance
of
anything
happening
of
anyone.
B
Having
any
reason
to
you
know,
hold
any
of
us
accountable,
but
you're
doing
the
right
thing,
Connie
and-
and
you
know,
being
cautious
and
having
the
agreement
signed,
but
I
think
the
way
that
we
operate
as
a
community
where
we
say
that
these
are
experimental
devices
that
are
being
made
in
collaboration
with
the
recipients,
and
it's
not
something
that
you
know
there's
any
exchange
of
funds
for
that.
That
really
works
to
our
favor.
A
B
B
Good
well
you're
welcome
to
hang
with
us
or,
if
you
have
other
things
to
do,
you're
welcome.
B
Okay,
so
I
think
we
covered
this.
We
we
definitely
have
work
to
do
on
the
Azure
billing.
It's
gotten
up
to
where
we're
it's
about
455
dollars
a
month
now,
and
that
puts
our
annual
consumption
rate
at
about
fifty
four
hundred
dollars
a
year.
Our
grant
is
for
3
500
a
year
I'm,
pretty
optimistic
that
we
will
be
able
to
make
adjustments
to
bring
the
spend
down
to
what
the
grant
would
fully
cover.
B
It's
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
matter
of
of
just
cutting
back
on
the
resources
that
we've
allotted,
so
we
might
not
have
to,
for
example,
shut
enable
web
Central
down.
Maybe
we
just
lower
the
power
of
the
server
that
it's
hosted
on.
Maybe
it
doesn't
need
so
much
RAM.
Maybe
the
the
database
Server
doesn't
need
to
be
so
heavy
duty.
B
You
know
there
I
just
don't
know
enough
to
make
those
changes
but
I'm
guessing
that
when
I
get
the
right
person
in
there
and
I
explain
the
situation
and
the
amount
of
usage
that
that
platform
is
seeing
today,
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
pull
back
on
the
resources
enough
to
bring
these
costs
within
the
the
the
scope
of
that
Grant.
B
Anything
yet
that
I'm,
aware
of
okay,
okay
but
I
do
have
an
appointment
with
a
one
of
Microsoft's
concierge,
onboarding,
concierge,
I'm
hoping
and
it's
for
the
non-profit
team.
I'm
hoping
they'll
be
able
to
help,
but
they
said
that
could
take
up
to
a
week
for
them
to
get
back
to
me
so
I'm
waiting
for
that.
E
Well,
we
met
yesterday
the
little
nascent
Outreach
group
was
Sarah,
gellberg
I'm.
Sorry,
sir,
is
it
Gilbert
or
gel
bard.
C
E
You
got
it.
Okay
just
want
to
make
sure
I
don't
spend
the
next
couple
of
years
just
pronouncing
it.
Then
it
was
Jacqueline
and
Brent
down
Georgia
way.
They
joined
the
call
as
well
had
a
nice
but
brief
conversation.
We
really
should
have
scheduled
a
full
hour,
but
I
sent
out
a
quick
summary
to
you
John
and
to
you
Jeremy,
ICC
I
saw
it
today
yeah.
So
we
covered
a
couple
of
quick
things,
really
nothing
that
we
haven't
already
discussed.
E
Ad
nauseam
in
these
Town
Halls,
just
trying
to
Define
what
our
efforts
could
or
should
be
in
2023,
trying
to
focus
up
a
little
bit
on
defining
like
a
global
and
more
targeted
Outreach
strategy,
while
also
trying
to
establish
more
of
a
domestic
U.S
pipeline.
To
give
our
you
know,
majority
U.S
based
people
in
this
community
more
to
do
once
they
join.
E
My
opinion
is
that
we
are
losing
a
lot
of
potential
Groundswell
of
interest
and
activity,
because
people
join,
and
then
you
know
expecting
there
to
be
some
huge
Network
that
we
we
have
like
a
big
dossier
of
potential
recipients
that
are
just
you
know,
begging
for
a
maker
to
be
attached
to,
and
really
it's
the
opposite
that
we've
got.
You
know
way
way
more
makers
than
recipients
so
trying
to
see
how
we
can.
We
can
address
that
and
I
I
think
it's
Jeremy's
Point
expanding
into
adaptive,
Tech
Beyond.
E
Simply
Prosthetics
is
maybe
a
great
way
to
to
address
that.
So
excellent.
B
More
to
come
what
and
let's
see
under
next
steps
here
anything
you
want
to
cover
here,
or
do
you
want
to
just
kind
of
sum
up
for
us
what
your
next
steps
are
with
this
group.
E
E
Yeah,
so
this
is
yeah
okay,
so
this
is
great.
This
is
what
I
sent
out
yeah.
So
the
next
steps
are
to
do.
Point
number
one
plan
for
U.S
domestic
Outreach,
we're
trying
to
see
how
we
can
well,
you
know
I'm
gonna,
say
we,
but
really
we
didn't
get
a
chance
to
get
too
in
depth
in
our
conversation
yesterday.
E
This
is
mostly
just
my
wish
list,
but
I
really
want
to
see
how
we
can
partner
with
either
a
Healthcare
organizations
and
networks
like
Hospital
Systems
across
the
US
people
that
have
entrenched
resources
and
people
who
you
know
if
there
were
more
awareness
among
clinicians
and
Trust
in
enable,
then
we
might
have
a
better
chance
of
getting
just
Word
of
Mouth
referrals
to
start
building
devices
and
hands.
Additionally,
getting
some
more
formalized
networks
built
would
would
help
us
to.
E
You
know,
streamline
that
in
in
connecting
makers
with
recipients
regarding
relief
efforts.
I
think
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
really
good
independent
things,
running
I,
really
don't
know
much
about.
What's
going
on
with
Ukraine
and
I,
don't
know
much
about.
E
What's
going
on
with
our
interest
in
supporting
in
turkey
and
Syria
following
the
earthquake,
there
I've
got
a
little
bit
of
additional
Headway
made
some
additional
ground
games
in
moving
towards
supplying
devices
to
Afghanistan,
but
I
feel
like
all
of
these
kind
of
need
to
come
under
a
single
umbrella,
so
that
we
have
some
consistency
and
can
share
Lessons
Learned,
as
we,
you
know,
start
building
up
this,
this
Global
Network
awareness
and
buy-in.
E
You
know
wear
a
lot
of
different
hats,
so
I
think
that
trying
to
to
open
up
these
Town
Hall
meetings
and
get
more
people
aware
of
what
we're
doing
is
is
the
way
that
we're
going
to
start
getting
a
little
bit
more
rubber
on
the
road
yeah
I
I
feel
like
we
got
a
lot
of
people
who
are
draining
their
batteries
in
a
lot
of
different
directions,
and
we
we
need
to
get
many
hands
going
here
to
lighten
the
work
and
then
finally,
this
is
this
is
something
that
that
I
believe
we're
we're
doing
right
now,
Jeremy
that
we're
we're
meeting
with
the
Illinois
adaptive
technology
group.
E
There
are
other
organizations
groups,
and
this
is
not
something
that
we're.
Obviously
we
can
just
flip
the
switch.
Then,
all
of
a
sudden
we've
got
all
these
Partnerships.
This
is
going
to
be.
You
know,
one
by
one
by
one
trying
to
build
up
more
of
a
network
right
and
I'm
doing
some
work
here,
trying
to
reach
out
to
some
groups.
You
know
I
think
everybody
is
trying
to
to
do
this,
but
this
is
another
example
of
trying
to
I
think
open
up
this
work
to
the
larger
Community.
E
We'll
make
this
a
lot
more
effective
because
you
know
I
I've
got
insight
into
the
clinical
world.
I've
got
insight
into
what
some
of
these
Aid
organizations
could
be
as
do
as
does
everyone
here,
but
you
know
the
the
there
are
hundreds
or
thousands
of
people
in
this
community
who
really
aren't
being
tapped
to
contribute
to
that.
So
that
would
be
very
useful.
E
E
Yeah,
so
that
that's
the
big
question,
so
the
the
thing
is
that
there
are
all
these
different
threads
that
all
Go
in
different
directions.
Right
and
a
lot
of
these
will
eventually
marry
back
up
and
and
support
the
others,
but
a
lot
of
them
I
think,
would
spin
off,
indeed
their
own
Endeavors
and
require
their
own.
You
know
separate
individuals,
kind
of
leading
them
up.
E
B
E
Well,
maybe
about
a
a
better
way
of
putting
it
is
you
know,
picking
out
the
best
boulders
to
push
down
to
hell,
but
I
think
that
I
I
think
that
the
the
Gap
that
we're
having
is
that
we've
got
lots
of
people
joining
and
we
have
had
a
lot
of
people
joining,
but
it
doesn't
really
feel
like
there
is
a
I,
don't
know
it
doesn't
really
feel
like.
E
There
is
a
coordinated
group
in
enable-
and
maybe
that's
that's
by
Design-
maybe
that
that's
sort
of
the
nature
of
how
this
is
formed.
But
I,
don't
know
it
feels
to
me
enable
is
really
just
like
the
people
on
this
call
right
now
and
I.
E
I
would
really
be
interested
in
trying
to
not
necessarily
just
look
outward
to
for
for
outreach
to
kind
of
look
within
and
and
try
to
to
build
up
more
engagement
in
our
community
and
whether
that's
you
know
the
hosting
virtual
events
that
are
a
little
bit
more
open-ended
without
like
specific
Focus
or
maybe
it's
you
know,
trying
to
you,
know,
schedule
meetups
in
different
regions
to
try
to
get
people
who
are
all
members
of
email,
enable
Community
to
get
together
and
get
to
know
one
another
I
don't
know
I.
B
Well,
Adam
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
I
think
one
of
our
other
parallel
efforts
ties
in
with
this
we're
working
on
or
I
think
we're
about
to
be
working
on
at
least
getting
this
new
matching
platform
going,
and
this
has
been
a
an
effort.
That's
been
long
overdue,
but
I
I
think
that
so
just
a
quick
history
here
for
those
that
haven't
been
through
the
10
years,
like
John
and
I,
have
we
used
to
have
a
a
human
being?
B
Who
was
full-time
with
us
doing
matching
she
was
the
one
kind
of
taking
in
the
request
and
finding
a
volunteer
and
connecting
them,
and
the
Very
nature
of
the
feeling
of
community
was
totally
different
at
that
time
and
I
think
the
matching
process
is
a
really
key
part
of
this
I.
Look
at
like
what
chapters
in
in
enable
France
and
in
turkey
and
other
in
Brazil
and
other
regions
like
that
where
they
have
a
really
strong
matching
process
where
there
is
some
human
being.
B
As
almost
like
the
US
chapter
now
I
know,
we've
got
a
bunch
of
chapters
in
the
U.S,
but
I
kind
of
feel
like
we
need
to
start
treating
the
us
as
a
big
chapter,
where
we
have
all
of
the
cases
coming
in
through
this.
This
new
platform
we
have
some
human
being
or
maybe
it's
a
group
of
human
beings,
that's
doing
the
matching
and
connecting
people
and
kind
of
monitoring
those
cases.
I.
B
Just
think
that
human
element
is
something
that
we've
been
missing,
which
you
know
we
when
we
we
lost
that
person
years
back
due
to
a
whole
chain
of
events
that
I
won't
go
into.
We
found
ourselves
in
a
Lurch.
We
had
nothing.
We
had
no
way
of
dealing
with
cases
and
that's
what
led
to
the
birth
of
enable
web
Central.
B
We
needed
a
solution,
and
since
we
had
no
volunteers
available
at
the
time
to
to
kind
of
work
full-time
on
this,
we
made
it
a
self-service
kind
of
an
approach
and
it
it
solved
the
immediate
need.
But
I
don't
know
that
it
really
helped
us
in
the
long
run,
because
here
we
are
now
feeling
like
we've,
we've
lost
something
like
that.
We
don't
have
that
same
engagement
and
and
I
I
think
this
is
a
big
part
of
that
puzzle.
B
E
So
I
think
that's
very
much
in
line
with
what
I've
been
thinking
about
how
to
approach
this.
This
disconnection
that
I
don't
know
this
palpable
disconnection
that
I've
been
struggling
with.
It
seems
like
having
something
like
an
enabling
us
that
doesn't
necessarily
sit
on
top
of
all
of
the
individual
chapters
that
are
us-based.
So
maybe,
instead,
you
know
kind
of
sits
in
the
middle
and
it
can
can
be
sort
of
a
node,
exact
location
in
coordination.
E
I
think
I
think
that's,
maybe
something
that
would
be
more
palatable
because
you
know
I
mean
I've
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
from
all
over
the
world
since
kind
of
joining
this
community-
and
you
know,
people
in
the
US
are
are
very
interested
in.
You
know
their
own
Circle,
you
know
and
and
making
sure
that
they're,
not
you
know
seating.
You
know
I
I'm
very
much
this
way
as
well.
E
Wanting
my
own
like
little
sphere
of
influence,
so
I
I
think
that
trying
to
come
from
like
a
top-down
approach
is
a
way
to
turn.
People
off
and
and
I.
B
Hope
is
to
provide
a
tool
set
for
the
global
network,
but
I
think
if
we
focus
on
our
mainly
on
our
U.S
chapters,
we're
going
to
be
starting
with
an
English
version
of
the
site
anyway,
and
then
we'll
we'll
add
languages.
We
have
that
translation
and
of
course
course.
We
hope
that
others
in
other
areas
will
start
to
adopt
it
and
use
it,
but
I
think
that's
going
to
go
a
long
way
to
helping
us
to
be
able
to
get.
B
Let
people
get
more
engaged
when
you
think
about
having
a
proper
matching
platform
that
allows
us
to
really
put
people
together
in
a
more
meaningful
way,
based
on
proximity
and
what
we're
doing
with
Trello.
For
the
you
know,
people
that
want
to
help
in
other
ways,
I
see
those
both
as
as
really
important
pieces
of
how
we
can
just
I.
Just
we've
done
a
very
poor
job
of
helping
people
to
find
their
place
when
they
come
in
as
new.
E
Members
I
agree
and
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
should
beat
ourselves
up
too
much
on
that
front.
I
think
that
we
just
need
kind
of
a
shift
in
Focus.
If
we're
going
to
be
doing
that
it
might
be
I,
don't
know,
maybe
a
more
positive
way
of
thinking
of
it
is
considering
like
creating
some
kind
of
us
chapter
that
connects
all
of
the
Us
chapters.
Currently,
maybe
this
is
kind
of
a
support
chapter
yeah
yeah.
Maybe
this
is
like
a
test
kitchen
to
see.
E
B
B
And
I
mean
I
guess
to
to
do
something
like
that
to
form
some
kind
of
a
U.S.
You
know
support
chapter
or
whatever
we
want
to
call
it
I
guess
it
doesn't
even
need
to
be
something
like
you
know.
We
don't
need
a
501c3
or
anything
I,
don't
see
there
being
any
Financial
aspects
to
this.
It's
just
a
matter
of
having
a
kind
of
a
a
a
a
a
chapter
under
our
own
system
that
you
know
would
have.
You
know,
allow
us
to
to
work
under
that
common
umbrella.
Right.
D
So
we've
talked
about
some.
If
you
will
mechanistic
ways
of
addressing
this,
the
matching
system
may
be
a
chapter,
but
you
know
I'll
also
observe
that
in
the
at
other
times,
we've
had
Jan
Owen
and
myself
and
maybe
Maria
a
number
of
nameable
individuals
who
were
putting
a
lot
of
time
into
this
kind
of
thing
and.
D
D
You
should
recognize
that
it's
it's
a
pump
that
needs
priming
and
the
priming
is
not
is
done
by
humans
and
so
yeah
part
of
what
we
need
part
of
what's
going
to
have
to
happen.
If
this
thing
is
going
to
be
flowing
again,
is
that
there
are
people
who
either
because
they're
paid
which
we
can
do
or
because
they
are
getting
huge
personal
satisfaction
from
this.
D
D
So
that
was
one
point,
because
that
just
realizing
that
human
elbow
grease
is
an
important
part
of
this
and
it's
a
free
country,
and
while
we
do
have
some
money,
someone
needs
to
figure
out
how
to
use
that
money
in
order
to
make
it
happen,
and
we
have
also
seen
that
money
can,
if
you
will
monetize,
can
potentially
turn
a
labor
of
love
and
caring
into
paid
labor,
which
is
not
something
we
want
to
do
either.
So
there's
there's
that
human
Dimension
that
I
did
want
to
flag.
D
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
flag
is
that
there
are
moments
when
this
kind
of
thing
is
really
hot.
This
was
really
hot
when
3D,
printing
and
3D
printed
Prosthetics
were
the
cool
new
thing.
D
Is
that
that
moment,
passed
they're
now,
sort
of
things
that
we
take
for
granted?
I
do
think
that
the
crisis
in
Ukraine
and
the
crisis
in
turkey
and
Syria
could
potentially
be
creating
a
moment
that
a
wave
we
could
surf,
and
so
that's
something
to
keep
in
mind.
We
got
an
email
from
zainab
just
earlier
this
morning
that
I
haven't
even
read
thoroughly
in
which
she
followed
up
on
the
chapter
leaders
meeting
in
which
we
reviewed
her
situation,
it's
clear
frankly
that
they're
still
getting
oriented.
B
D
B
The
way
just
so
that
you
know
and
I
should
let
her
know
this
too
I've
already
forwarded
that
email
or
Alina
did
rather
to
the
two
companies,
the
one
that
makes
our
medical
grade
phone
padding
and
the
one
that
makes
the
gel
the
Lee
Tippy
gel
grips
that
she
needs.
So
we're
waiting
to
hear
back
from
both
companies
if
they
can
support
her,
but
we're
working
on
that.
D
That's
great,
the
other
thing
is,
we
do
have
a
constant
stream
of
newbies.
D
They
sign
into
the
Hub.
Many
of
them
don't
show
up
at
the
new
member
Meetup,
which
is
later
today,
but
they
do
identify
themselves
and
simply
developing
a
systematic
process
for
capturing
those
people
at
their
moment
of
Interest
right
might
go
a
long
way
towards
building
a
culture
from.
If
you
will
from
scratch
that.
B
Just
so,
you
know,
John,
that's
one
that
I
did
put
on
the
Trello
board
I'm,
calling
it
an
enable
Hub,
greeter
and
that's
again
something
that
we
used
to
have
the
same
person
that
did
our
matching.
She
used
to
be
our
greeter
in
the
old
Google,
Plus
community
and
I
agree.
That
makes
a
big
difference
to
greet
them
get
to
know
how
they
want
to
help.
How
do
they
want
to
be
involved
and
then
help
them
to
find
their
way.
D
And
the
bar
has
now
been
lowered.
I
think
that
getting
people
to
print
a
splint
or
print
splints
is
substantially
easier
or.
D
But
the
splints
are
particularly
easy
to
get
started
with
and
there's
a
story
and
a
pipeline
available
for
that.
So
thinking
about
an
an
onboarding
process
which
then
provided
the
rewards,
that
would
motivate
people
to
stay
involved
and
so
on
might
be
the
way
to
go.
That
also
I,
don't
think,
can
be
a
completely
automated
process,
but
thinking
through
the
sinking,
the
hook
right,
we've
got
bait.
That
works.
We
get
people
who
say
this
is
really
cool.
D
I
want
to
be
involved,
but
we
don't
have
a
good
methodology
for
sinking
the
hook
and
getting
people
reliably
engaged,
even
though
we
have
seen
that
for
those
who
do
get
reliably
engaged
it's
an
incredibly
rewarding
process.
So
it's
not
like
we're
sinking
a
hook
to
exploit
a
fish.
Of
course
we're
trying
to
create
an
opportunity.
B
C
I,
if
I
can
just
add
something
when,
when
I
see
introductions
from
from
new
members
and
I,
you
know
comment
directing
them
to
the
new
member
page
and
inviting
them
to
the
new
member
Meetup.
Meetup
I
rarely
get
a
response
so
back
from
them.
So
even
if
there's
I
don't
know,
maybe
something
like
a
really
simple
Google
form
that
I
that
they
could
fill
out
with
what
their
interests
are
and
how
they
want
to
help
or
if
there's
like.
B
B
So
when
somebody
signs
up
for
the
Hub,
you
know
we
do
capture
certain
information
among
which
is
an
email
address
and
I
could
get
you
the
access
you
need
to
go
in
and
see
you
know,
email
addresses,
maybe
it's
it's
a
matter
of
reaching
out
offline
when
somebody
joins
The
Hub,
maybe
we
reach
out
by
email
and
say:
hey
saw
you
joined,
wanted
to
learn
a
little
more
and
then
all
they
have
to
do
is
hit
reply.
You
know.
C
E
C
Into
the
Hub
to
introduce
themselves,
they
should
be
getting
it.
My
comment
but
I'm
I'm
happy
to.
D
C
When
I,
when
I
joined,
I
was
also
confused,
so
by
sort
of
the
the
layout
and
technical.
E
C
B
B
Thinking
masby
set
something
like
that
up
and
I'm
thinking
that
that's
something
that
we
probably
can
modify
and
never
have
I
just
don't
know
where
that
is
that
oh,
enable
custom
module.
Maybe
what
is
this
here?
New
user
email
and
see
all
it
has
right
now.
Is
this
so
yeah?
This
is
something
we
need
to
work
on.
We
could
put
much
much
better
information
in
here
about
how
to
get
started.
Please
make
sure
to
join
our
next
new
member
Meetup
Etc
I.
This
is
something
we
got
to
work
on.
This
okay
is.
E
B
B
A
D
Okay,
unless
Connie
and
Jeremy
I'm
actually
communicating
to
you
also
unless
Connie
you
have
some
ideas
about
how
to
do
that
or
prototype
the
process.
You
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
challenges
we
have
is
that
those
of
us
who
show
up
regularly,
on
the
one
hand,
we
don't
have
that
much.
We
have
limits
to
what
we
can
do
and,
on
the
other
hand,
we
and
I
fear
the
community
tends
to
think
that
these
are
problems
we
are
going
to
solve.
A
The
the
thing
is:
is
that
enabled
is
a
collection
of
volunteers
right
exactly
and
it
can't
all.
The
work
cannot
continually
be
put
on
the
same
volunteers
where
you're
tapping
out
they're
bandwidth,
you
know
so
so
there
has
to
be,
and
not
you
know,
I,
don't
know
all
the
volunteers
within
the
organization,
but
there
has
to
be
some
volunteers
that
are
active,
that
are
building
devices
that
you
can
pair
together
and
say:
okay,
these
individuals
hey
work
with
this.
A
You
know
this
experience
volunteer
and
they'll
help
you
through
it,
because
you
know
I'll
be
honest
with
you.
I
was
working
with
the
school
a
school
they
wanted
to
do
stem
they
wanted
to
get
involved
with
enable
the
two
teachers
looked
at
the
website
and
they
were
just
completely
overwhelmed
and
they're
like
I,
can't
make
sense
of
this
and
I
and
I'm
like
it's
really
not
that
hard
I'll
walk
you
through
the
process,
I'll
Mentor,
you,
you
know,
and
they
basically
just
tapped
out
due
to
you,
know
the
extent.
B
B
B
So
let's
continue
this
conversation
about
onboarding
and
how
we
can
improve
this
experience
between
now
and
then
Adam
and
I
will
be
meeting
next
week
to
talk
about
Trello
and
we'll
talk
about
how
this
might
fit
into
that
process
of
getting
people
engaged
in
meaningful
activities.
That
can
have
an
impact,
and
let's
continue
this
next
week.
If
you
don't
mind
but
I'm
gonna
have
to
cut
us
off
for
today
and.