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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting, December 20, 2019
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, December 20, 2019.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: http://bit.ly/34Q3niv
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A
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A
Great
sounds
good.
Next,
one
is
for
all
of
us
to
look
into
options
for
having
an
open
meeting
space
in
the
hub.
We
talked
about
maybe
discord,
but
it
doesn't
support
video
and
ideally,
we
were
hoping
to
have
some
kind
of
a
reading
space
where
we
could
just
kind
of
jump
in
and
out
of
meetings.
That
would
include
video
and
audio.
Anyone
have
any
new
ideas.
E
A
A
A
C
B
A
F
And
I
think
if
we
actually,
if
we
stay
on
the
this
call,
that's
pretty
easy,
er
sure
yeah
sure,
oh
just
dance
dance
joined
his
own.
Oh.
A
Yeah,
okay
yeah
next
one
then,
is
for
me
to
set
up
an
account
for
Ben
as
editor
and
I'll
enable
in
the
future
that's
been
done
so
Ben's
all
set
up
now
and
the
last
one
is
for
Jen
to
help
us
promote
the
newsletter
at
enabled
org
address
and
social
media
for
gathering
stories.
I
need
to
follow
up
with
her
on
that
I'm
I'm.
Actually
well.
I
think
you
need
some
further
discussion.
A
You
know
keep
that
that
you
know
the
stories
he
likes
the
stories
that
have
more
of
kind
of
an
emotional
content
she
likes
to
call
it.
The
feels
you
know,
and
so
I
I
want
to
think
about
a
mechanism
where
we
can
have
people
write
up
their
stories,
share
them
in
the
hub
and
then
kind
of
go
through
those
and
pick
out
the
ones
that
might
be
the
best
fit
for
enabling
the
future
and
sort
of
transfer
them
over.
To
that
the
question
is:
how
do
we
get
that
done?
G
You
know
I
suggest
that
we
can
put
together
a
simple
template
with
some
examples.
I
think
that
would
help
a
lot
try
to
boil
it
down
to
something.
You
know
just
with
a
few
parts
that
way
people
can.
You
know
instead
of
getting
lost,
and
you
know
maybe
the
technical
details
or
other
things.
They
can
just
kind
of
stick
to
like
a
shorter
format
and
then,
if
it
needs
to
be
edited
or
something
to
fit
on
to
enabling
the
to
feature
it
can
always
be
added
to.
But
after
that.
A
G
The
easiest
thing
that
the
users
is
going
to
be
just
a
post,
but
in
it
in
a
space
we
can
use
the
media
coordination.
I,
see,
there's
there's
a
newsletter
project
or
space,
so
thinking
I
can
try
to
describe
how
it
works
and,
and
the
community
can
add
anything
that
they
want
to
the
newsletter
a
space
and
then
I
can
from
there
organize
it
out
in
terms
of
the
wiki
okay,.
E
E
G
My
only
hesitation
with
that
would
be
that
nobody
would
see
the
stories
that
don't
get
chosen
and
it
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
have
a
space
where
it's
not
just
the
the
ones
and
enabling
the
future.
But
if
people
have
technical
articles
that
you
know
speak
to
some
parts,
the
community,
but
maybe
not
enabling
the
future,
they
still
can
get
read.
E
A
Let
me
let
me
talk
it
over
with
Jen
and
get
her
thoughts
on
this,
because
we
had
talked
about
this
other
approach
and
I'm
happy
to
I.
Think
maybe
we
can
do
both,
but
I
think
that
I
mean
when
you
think
about
the
kind
of
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
writing
the
stories.
A
lot
of
it
is
going
to
be
the
active
volunteers,
the
chapters
etc,
and
those
people
right
now
seem
to
be
more
active
on
the
hub.
I
mean
we're
coming
up
on
700
members.
A
There's
a
lot
of
communication
and
activity
happening
in
there
and
I
feel
like
we
might
be
able
to
get
better
engagement
there,
but
we
could
put
it
in
both
places
potentially
and
then
gather
those
stories
in
the
hub
and
then
publish
selected
stories
over
to
enable
in
the
future.
Let
me
review
that
with
Jen
and
get
her
thoughts
on
what's
going
to
work
best.
You.
A
A
Okay,
so
let's
see
we
don't
have
any
new
introductions
today.
I
think
everyone
here
has
been
with
us
before
anybody
have
anything
you'd
like
to
add
into
the
agenda
and
before
I
get
that.
Let
me
just
mention
that
I
did
make
a
change
here.
I
I
didn't
feel
like
the
two
separate
agendas
was
working
too
well
for
us
we're
still
not
getting
through
everything.
There's
just
a
lot
of
these
different
topics.
A
I
did
some
cleanup
today:
I
consolidated
it
back
down
to
one
agenda,
but
I
removed
a
lot
of
the
kind
of
stale
topics,
and
what
I
was
thinking
is
that
each
week,
I'll
just
try
to
kind
of
re
sort
things
to
put
the
more
current
any
kind
of
pressing
topics
up
at
the
top
of
the
list,
so
that
we
can
be
sure
to
get
to
those.
And
we
just
you
know
we
won't
get
through
everything
and
that's
fine,
but
we'll
try
to
keep
them
arm.
A
A
Okay,
well,
we'll
move
on
feel
free
to
I
mean
you're,
welcome
to
just
type
it
in
yourself
to
you
all.
Have
edit
access
to
the
notes
document
so
feel
free
to
plug
in
anything
that
you
think
of.
As
we
continue
here,
we've
got
a
summary
of
our
key
metrics.
We
are
keeping
those
in
our
metrics
spreadsheet
now,
so
we
have
we
a
spreadsheet
where
we're
tracking
weekly
metrics
across
the
hub
and
enable
web
central
and
our
helpdesk
tickets.
A
summary
is
in
here,
as
I
said,
we're
coming
up
on
700
members.
A
Now
we've
got
671
members
on
the
hub.
We
also
have
the
summary
of
the
groups
laid
out
here
of
how
many
we've
got.
19
chapter
leaders
currently
registered
a
couple
of
recipients:
we've
got
7,
educators,
I
I,
don't
think
we've
captured
all
those
I
mean
I
know
we
have
more
than
that
in
terms
of
educators
and
chapter
leaders,
but
we're
still
working
on
kind
of
getting
them
assigned
to
those
roles
in
the
hub
enable
web
central
same
kind
of
typical
growth.
We
have
3788
users
currently
with
143
active
cases.
A
We
do
have
16
available
cases
right
now,
thanks
to
the
ones
that
we
brought
in
from
Dean
Rock,
so
hopefully
we'll
get
some
volunteers
helping
on
those
helpdesk
is
pretty
similar.
What
it's
been
actually
slowed
down
a
little
bit
this
week
so
moving
onto
individual
updates
and
let's
try
to
keep
these
two
as
close
to
5
minutes
of
peace
as
we
can
so
that
we
do
have
some
time
to
get
into
our
agenda
topics.
You're
up.
First
Ben.
G
G
Nate
got
a
high
five
interview
with
five
questions,
talking
about
his
experience
and
background
and
and
the
night
1/2
project
which
it'll
be
really
exciting
for
people
to
hear
about
how
he
fits
in
the
hand
asan
from
Jeremy
seems
like
it
was
a
huge
success
so
covering
that
story,
and
it
be
greats
included
in
the
newsletter
Parker
Brooks
publishing
contacted
Bob
to
the
help
desk.
That's
an
article
that'll
be
aiming
for
April.
So
I
got
back
to
her
this
week.
G
Po
Paraguay
responded
this
morning,
they're
interested
in
the
chapter
spotlight,
which
would
be
really
great
to
collect
some
information
from
them,
including
deliveries.
That's
something
that
at
IBM,
between
Bob
and
John,
that
really,
if
we
can
focus
on
I'm
collecting
some
of
that
information
through
these
shepherd
spotlights
that'll
be
really
helpful
and
we
can
manually
start
to
get
a
little
bit
more
specific
about
the
activities
of
the
chapters
and
and
how
their
reflects
developments
in
the
community.
G
The
pen
cast
with
scythe
I'll
write
that
up
and
see
if
we
can
change
that,
maybe
to
a
podcast
just
an
audio
with
the
written
summary.
So
those
those
are
the
the
main
things
that
are
ahead
from
media
and
communications
and
in
this
next
week
is
gonna,
be
really
pulling
the
newsletter
together.
But
that's
a
really
good
sustainable
data.
So
John
mentioned
in
the
chat
just
now,
nasbe
and
John
have
been
working
together
with
me
looking
at
how
we
can
automate
the
data
to
bring
it
to
that
spreadsheet.
G
That
Jeremy
shared
John's
been
looking
at
Facebook
and
social
media,
and
we've
been
looking
at
how
we
can
in
that
template,
create
several
pages
or
sheets
that
feed
into
the
same
summary
document.
So
it's
coming
together
and
his
tool
is
really
wonderful,
so
Wow.
Maybe
that
could
be
something
for
the
agenda
for
next
time:
who's
looking
a
little
bit
more
specifically
and
what
we
have
and
what
we're
aiming
for
and
and
how.
We
can
now
work
together
to
to
get
that
working
for
our
needs.
C
Be
quick
handling
the
usual
help
desk
and
and
badging
and
ewc
functions.
I
posted
a
a
discussion
of
a
proposal
on
loomio
for
the
workshop
and
methodology
to
roll
out
dates.
Naiop
devices
I'm
gonna,
let
it
marinate
on
on
loomio
tool
about
the
first
a
year
and
then
I'll
take
the
comments
and
formally
issue
a
proposal
from
both.
The
comments
have
been
in
fairly
benign
and
supportive,
and
so
that's
that's
gratifying.
C
We
admitted
our
one
hundred
and
forty
eighth
chapter
and
in
Spain,
which
is
good.
We
now
have
two
chapters
in
Spain
and
I've
started.
Another
round
of
serious,
fundraising
and
I've
set
a
personal
goal
of
forty
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
by
the
end
of
the
first
quarter.
We
have
two
targets
already
again
over
the
holidays.
It
slows
down
here,
but
but
things
are
in
progress
and
I
sent
you
an
email
this
morning.
Just
wanting
to
pick
your
brain
and
but
I
do
want
to
reiterate
that
I
understand
you
may
be
in
a
sensitive
position.
C
C
And
I'm
gonna
be
reaching
out
to
several
other
people
who
are
currently
quite
active
in
the
corporate
world
since
I'm,
not
I'm,
relying
on
all
cronies
and
pulling
in
markers
but
I'll
be
reaching
out
to
more
people
for
ideas,
and
the
goal
is
to
have
a
hit
list
of
five
to
ten
entities
that
we
can.
We
can
hopefully
ask
for
forty
to
fifty
thousand
dollars.
We
can
replenish
a
maple
front,
so
that's
a
journey
awesome.
F
Yeah
so
this
week,
primarily
being
working
on
the
updates
we're
going
to
go
through
in
the
in
this
session
on
after
this
session,
and
we
we
continue
to
progress
with
kind
of
restarting
our
manufacturing
process.
He
in
the
UK
and
Jeremy
you
reached
out
about
helping
Johnson
Johnson
through
the
same
kind
of
hurdles
that
we've
been
through.
I.
F
Think
I
think
that
the
two
things
that
will
be
really
helpful
is
to
get
the
get
the
team
you,
because,
because
now
our
process
is
necessarily
slightly
more
formalized
in
terms
of
the
way
that
we're
manufacturing
so
that
we
have
serial
numbers
on
all
the
devices.
Everything
like
that,
we
I
think
using
ewc
will
be
very
beneficial
from
that
point
of
view
and
I
mean
we'll
discuss
later
on,
but
I
think
in
the
future.
F
F
I
think
is
very
exciting
cuz
in
some
cases
when,
when
we
pause,
they
were
frustrated
because
there
was
limb
differences
that
they
were
struggling
to,
adjust
the
devices
for,
but
I
think
some
of
the
devices
that
we've
had
to
help
people
with
partial
hands
and
and
some
of
the
ones
that
I
think
Bob.
You
were
working
on
one
with
her
with
where,
where
there
was
quite
a
lot
of
the
palm
remaining,
is
that
right
or
the
Sun
so
yeah?
So
yes,
so
I
think
so.
F
A
Okay,
thank
you
just
a
quick
note,
also
on
that
topic
of
the
legal
kind
of
landscape
that
you're
gonna
help
with
I'm
happy
to
coordinate
a
call
with
them.
I
was
kind
of
hoping
that
we
might
be
able
to
get
some
kind
of
a
summary
written
up
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
I
want
this
to
be
reusable.
A
F
A
E
A
Yeah,
it
came
in
as
a
helpdesk
ticket
and
they
said,
hey
we're,
really
interested.
We
want
to
get
involved,
but
we
have
some
kind
of
concerns
about
liability.
Can
we
have
a
conversation
and
so
I
set
up
a
meeting
with
with
at
first
the
guy
Bob
who
reached
out
and
I
guess,
he's
the
guy
kind
of
driving
this
mob
some
urge
Bob
summer?
That's
right!
So.
D
A
D
A
C
C
E
C
Consulting
firm
early,
large
and
I
had
a
video
called
this
week,
also
with
some
of
their
representatives
and
again
it
was
hey.
We
like
what
you're
doing.
How
could
we
help
and
I
mentioned
because
they
brought
up
the
subject
of
Dell
and
our
relationship
with
them
and
I
kind
of
on
the
fly
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
created
the
Dell
model,
which
was
a
group
of
employees
as
a
chapter
actually
fabricating
devices,
much
as
you
do,
but
then
a
a
significant
corporate
donation
to
the
cause.
A
A
F
Yeah
happy
to
kind
of
have
a
look
at
that,
because
I
mean
I,
don't
think
that
yeah
from
the
point
I
think
a
lot
of
companies
want
to
want
to
kind
of
evolve
their
kind
of
CSR
at
the
moment,
and
you
know
being
able
to
do
something
like
this
and
and
thinking
yeah
I
mean
if
you've
got
names
like
Dell
on
the
on
the
list.
Yeah,
then
that
feels
quite
that
will
feel
quite
established,
which
would
be
it's.
F
I
mean
their
debt,
so
some
of
the
some
of
the
some
of
the
people
who
we
worked
with
has
done
it
so
yeah
I
mean
there.
Is
that
thing
as
either
doing
it
as
the
company
or
doing
it
as
kind
of
a
chapter?
That's
that's.
Everyone
in
the
chapter
knows
at
each
other
because
they're
in
the
company,
but
it's
not
formally
from
the
from
the
company
kind
of
thing
so.
F
C
D
Hello
guys
so
not
a
lot
of
updates
for
today,
just
related
to
the
app
we
finished
the
first
part.
So
the
first
way
it
is
okay,
and
now
we
are
moving
to
the
second
part
with
the
rehabilitation
protocol
inside
it.
So
the
physiotherapists
can
do
the
word
inside
application,
so
this
would
be
the
second
wave
and
I
believe
the
curse.
Because,
generally
we
can
I
scared
a
meeting
with
you
to
see
how
we
would
transfer
the
data
for
you
for
the
any
web
central
base
and
see.
How
can
we
integrate
that?
D
Another
thing
that
you
are
that
here
is
the
option
to
change
the
development
to
use,
react,
react
native
and
low
Jes
to
make
a
developments,
because,
with
that
one
code
we
are
able
to
reach
people
that
uses
and
bride
and
also
I
found
for
the
same
code.
So
this
will
help
a
lot.
So
those
are
the
changes
that
you
are
planning
for
this
first
weeks
of
January.
A
A
A
D
As
we
are
talking
about
the
contact
with
a
big
company
like
that,
why
not
we
make
a
strong
presence
of
enable
inside
the
nicotine,
for
example,
because
I
believe
nicotine
is
a
great
place
to
share
in
the
bottom
a
ago
that
the
companies
can't
see
and
people
throw
their
companies
can
react
to
that.
It's
gonna
help
a
lot
to
get
those
coffees
yeah.
That's
helping
a
lot.
F
It's
it's
got
some
really
good
track
that
look
at
the
stuff
that
we've
posted
about.
It
has
got
some
really
really
good
traction
on
LinkedIn,
actually
and
and
actually
thinking
about
the
your
it
kind
of.
If
we
did
get
that
sort
of
model
together
and
I
can
imagine,
you'd
get
a
lot
of
people
saying
all
we'd
like
to
be
involved
in
this
and
then
nothing.
F
C
F
D
Related
to
this
conversation,
but
for
determination
of
the
device
here
in
Brazil,
we're
planning
to
go
in
2020
for
correlation
is
that
we
performed
here.
We
are
one
step
as
a
nation
inside
I.
Think
all
the
former
Brazil
is
a
website
from
the
government
that
you
register
scientific
projects.
So
what
stevia?
Every
donation
is
very
standard
as
a
scientific
product
and
then
all
the
data
that
we
gather
from
the
the
use
of
the
device,
how
the
people
react
to
the
models,
and
things
like
that.
D
That
not
know
enable
and
will
have,
but
these
data
choose
as
basis
to
start
working
with
that.
So
that's
the
idea
for
mm
Bank
here,
but
I
don't
know
if,
in
other
countries
there's
the
possibility
tools.
I
will
do
things
like
this,
because
we
have
a
valid
data
from
other
countries.
To
this
can
be
was
a
lot
of
strength
even
to
contact,
for
example,
big
companies
that
about
if
the
guys
have
questions
we
have
scientific
data
to
show
the
diagonal,
and
these
can
help
a
lot.
D
B
Actually
I
do
there
are
platforms
for
citizen
science.
Maria
is
probably
familiar
with
the
most
Oh,
which
certainly
could
be
used
for
that
kind
of
time.
I
think
our
our
bigger
challenge,
which
apparently
is
not
one
you
have,
is
getting
people
to
actually
submit
the
follow
ups
to
do
the
follow.
Ups
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
citizens
and
science,
follow-up
and
tracking
project
a
bet
sort,
and
maybe
we
can
learn
from
what
you're
doing
everything.
F
It
is
it
is
it
something
that
could
again
is
kind
of
like
an
optional
step
that
could
be
included
within
the
within
the
process
with
him
within
ewc,
maybe
is
is
like
the
links
to
the
to
the
site
or
your
good
saying
what
day
to
it,
we'd
want
to
play.
I
think
I,
hope
we
see
all
sort
of
things
about
while
we've
been
going
through
this
process.
It
sort
of
rings
about
that.
There's
there's
something
similar
here
in
the
UK
as
well,
but
I
have
to
sign
out
more
about
it.
A
Okay,
well
we'd,
better
move
along
if
that's
okay,
but
actually
Jen's,
not
here
today,
so
my
update
is
quick.
I
did
this
week,
a
new
version
of
the
Phoenix
hand,
the
enable
Phoenix
hand,
version
3
and
that's
in
the
device
catalog
it's
on
Thingiverse
and
what
I
did
was
I
added
lettered
labels
to
the
ends
of
the
pins
and
the
reason
I
did.
This
was,
at
our
recent
hand,
assembly
events.
We
continued
to
run
into
problems
where,
especially
with
kids,
it's
pretty
hard
to
determine
which
of
these
pins
go
where
and
which
pins
go
together.
A
We
ended
up
with
quite
a
few
hands
that
had
the
wrong
pins.
You
know
in
the
wrong
places
which
I
fixed
after
the
event,
but
it
became
clear
that
it
it
certainly
especially
at
certain
scales
it
become
it
can
become
very
difficult
to
identify
which
pins
go
where
and
so.
I
added
in
fusion
360
I
added
little.
You
know
lettering
that
that's
actually
gonna
3d
print
on
the
ends
of
those
pins,
so
that
you
know
the
finger
pins
all
have
a
letter
A
and
the
the
knuckle
pins
or
B
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
A
So
they
each
have
a
different
letter
and
then
we
also
have
a
placemats.
So
previously
one
of
Shashi's
Scout
troops
had
put
together
an
assembly
placemat,
which
we
used
very
successfully
in
this
recent
event.
We
printed
it
out
in
a
very
large
scale,
I
think
it
was
11
by
17
and
laminated
it,
and
that
was
in
the
middle
of
the
table,
and
the
kids
could
then
lay
out
the
parts
on
the
mat
which
had
a
you
know,
a
picture
of
the
hand
with
all
the
kind
of
an
exploded
diagram.
A
So
it
was
very
helpful
for
laying
out
the
parts,
but
we
realized
well
the
dike
that
the
placemat
shows
a
right
hand
and
of
course
some
of
these
kids
were
assembling
left
hands.
So
I
made
a
left-hand
version
of
that
same
placemat.
So
now
we
have
two
versions:
one
for
left,
one
for
right
and
I
added
in
the
lettering
on
the
placemat
for
each
of
the
pins
to
show
which
letter
goes
with,
which
pin.
A
So
now
we
have
kind
of
a
system,
that's
especially
useful
for
these
kind
of
hand,
athon
where,
if
you
print
this
version
of
the
hand
with
these
lettered
pins
and
it
kind
of
goes
along
with
this
assembly
placemat
that
shows
the
lettering
and
which
pins
go
where
it
makes
it
I
think
a
lot
easier
for
especially
younger
folks
to
do
these
assemblies,
so
that's
all
been
shared,
it's
in
the
device
catalog
it's
on
Thingiverse,
etc.
So
that
was
there's.
B
A
B
For
it,
so,
as
noted
I've
been
working
with
Ben
on
non
hub,
metrics
I've
been
working
on
enable
fund
administration
sending
out
checks
with
a
few
stumbles
we're
working
with
a
local
occupational
therapy
group
at
the
hospital
of
the
University
of
Rochester,
and
they
reached
out
to
us
because
they
they
are
the
real
makers
of
the
medical
community.
B
They
are
the
ones
who
cobble
together
solutions
to
solve
patient
problems
and
they've
got
quite
a
large
repertory
of
non
prosthetic
assistive
technology
devices
that
they
hand
crashed,
and
some
of
them
eating
really
has
to
be
handcrafted
and
others.
It's
a
waste
of
their
time,
to
have
to
keep
on
building
from
scratch
an
object,
for
example,
to
clamp
a
cup
on
to
a
wheelchair,
so
I
think
ot's
may
be
good
customers
and
receptive
customers
for
non
prosthetic.
80
devices
that
are
volunteers
could
make
and
I'm
playing
that
role
right
now.
B
They
hope
to
get
a
3d
printer
and
do
some
of
their
own
work
and
I'm
coaching
them
through
that
and
by
the
way.
As
we
know,
they
are
also
good
consultants
on
prosthetic
cases
so
beginning
to
think
that
occupational
therapists
may
be
a
really
good
class
of
medical
professionals
to
reach
out
to
them
than
to
work
with
John.
C
Working
off
that
comet
of
yours,
we
had
talked
to
various
times
about
expanding
or
redirect.
Maybe
expanding
is
better
expanding,
being
able
to
include
all
types
of
assistive
devices
more
formally
I
realize
people
are
doing
it,
but
right
get
more
cases
in
the
ewc,
promote
more
assistive
devices.
I
think
we
were
also
talking
about
pets
in
various
conversations.
Maybe
for
2020
is
becoming
the
2020.
These
are
topics
we
want
to
re
address,
and
maybe,
if
we
decide
we
want
to
go
forward
with
it
add
some
action
plans
and
so
on.
B
B
C
A
B
Although,
for
example,
agreeing
to
certain
ethical
guidelines
may
be
an
actual
requirement
for
chapter
membership,
it's
those
kinds
of
issues
that
we're
beginning
a
discussion
of
and,
frankly
I,
do
think
that
a
goal
for
this
year
ought
to
be
to
put
them
in
place
at
the
early
part
of
the
year.
I
agree.
C
A
Remember
the
FDA
gave
a
presentation
and
they
made
it
clear
in
that
presentation
that
what
we're
doing
our
devices
fall
into
an
exempt
category
so
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
requirements,
but
the
one
requirement
that
we
do
have
is
record-keeping.
They
are
expecting
us
to
keep
records
of,
what's
being
made
for
whom,
by
whom,
etc
I
think
that
leads
to
being
rumored.
That
should
definitely
be
in
there.
F
And
I
think
that
needs
to
be
I
think
it
needs
to
be
highlighted
more
yeah,
because
when,
when
people
first
come
on
the
site,
they're
there
they're
kind
of
up
for
you're
engaging
in
kind
of
the
right
way
and
I.
Think
if
you
stare
expectations,
that
record-keeping
is
something
that
they
have
to
do.
I
think
people
will
be
fine
with
it.
I
think
it's
something
that
might
seem
a
hassle
if
you
kind
of
put
it
on
to
people
later
on.
F
But
if
you,
if
it's
something
that
they're
kind
of
doing
at
the
start,
which
is
which
is
again,
you
know
the
exciting
thing.
If
we
can
get
people
on,
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
good
way
to
push
people
towards
ewc,
because
we're
saying
that
will
this
effectively
will
kind
of
do
the
record-keeping
for
you,
because,
if
you're
recording
everything
you're
doing
on
ewc,
that
will
then
that
will
then
cover
you
from
that
point
of
view.
F
So
so
yeah
I
think
that's
I,
think
that's
really
good,
and
and
if
you
mention
the
FDA
as
well
I
think
that
will
be
a
good
push
for
people
and
it,
but
I
think,
is
well.
It
feels
it
would
feel
kind
of
more
formal
as
well
I
think
people
would
feel
I.
Think
people
would
actually
feel
quite
good
about
thinking
that
they're
doing
something
that
that
is
actually
FDA
approved.
It
isn't
necessarily
kind
of
under
the
under
the
radar
or
anything
so.
A
We
have
this
discussion
going
on
in
the
hub,
I
hope
to
see
people
continue
to
share
their
thoughts,
because
you
know
our
goal
is
to
basically
update
our
code
of
conduct.
It's
been
a
long
time
since
that
was
written,
so
I
think
we
need
to
kind
of
refresh
it
add
in
you
know
new
content
based
upon
all
of
our
lessons
learned
in
recent
months
and
years,
and
once
we
get
it
to
a
point
where
you
know
we're
collectively
comfortable
with
it.
You
know,
as
John
mentioned,
let's,
let's
look
at
having
chapters.
A
You
know
a
formally
acknowledge
and
agree
to
abide
by
that
before
getting
approved
and
added
to
the
map
and
I
also
put
a
note
in
here
on
our
agenda
document
with
a
question:
how
do
we
bring
more
visibility
to
that
code
of
conduct
and
make
sure
that
every
volunteer
is
aware
of
it
and
familiar
with
it?
Every
chapter
is
familiar
with
it
because
right
now
you
know
it's
on
a
wiki
page
in
the
hub,
but
you
know
I,
don't
know
that
a
lot
of
people
read
it
or
see
it.
A
B
C
D
C
A
C
B
Can
tell
you
that
I've
had
some
experience
with
some
government
regulatory
agencies
on
animal
care
in
in
past
lives
and
systemic
efforts
to
improve,
which
is
what
we
are
doing
with
you
know.
Demonstrable
incremental
advancements
are
are
really
what
they're,
what
they're
looking
for
a
date
that
the
agency
I
was
dealing
with?
F
C
B
B
A
A
Next
up,
we've
got
a
fund
raising
and
fund
allocation,
and
I
think
bob
already
covered
this
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
all
aware
of
the
fact
that
our
phones
are
down
to
around
20k.
We
definitely
need
to
refresh
the
funds,
so
I'm
very
glad
to
hear
that
Bob
is
focused
on
that
and
is
reaching
out
actively
to
organizations.
Now
we
had
talked
at
one
point
in
the
past
about
the
idea
of
creating
a
fundraising
committee
which
would
be
chaired
by
a
bob.
A
C
C
Anybody
on
this
call
that
has
somebody
they
know
in
a
corporation
or
an
entity,
that's
capable
of
a
donation
and
would
be
willing
to
send
an
email
to
subscribe
and
say:
hey,
Fred,
you're,
gonna
hear
from
a
guy
named
breaker,
and
that's
really
a
good
cause
he's
promoting
that's
a
type
of
thing.
I
can
I.
C
B
Into
the
hub,
I
think
would
be
a
really
good
idea
if,
if
you
say
I
am
currently
writing,
you
can
give
an
example
of
one
of
your
excellent
letters
to
various
potential
corporate
partners,
but
it
would
be
great
if
that,
but
I
don't
want
to
just
mass
mail
potential.
Perfect
partners
be
if
you
know
someone,
and
you
would
work
with
me
on
customizing
a
letter-
the
fact
that
you're
taking
the
lead
and
and
will
do
the
hard
work
of
writing
an
excellent
letter
takes
a
lot
of
people.
C
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
thank
you.
Bob
and
that'll
be
an
ongoing
effort,
of
course,
but
it's
good
to
see
that
in
motion
project
proposals
on
lumiose,
so
again,
I
think
Bob
already
touched
on
this.
But
we've
got
a
nice
discussion
going
on
thanks
to
Bob,
who
laid
out
some
notes
about
disseminating
the
NAIOP
devices
to
the
community
and
there's
a
lot
of
good
exchanges
going
on
around
that
which
is
going
to
be
leading
to
a
formal
proposal
and
I
think
we're
all
on
the
same
page
on
this.
But
I
really
hope
that
we
can.
A
We
can
get
some
proper
funding
for
Nate's
work,
because
I
think
he's
really
demonstrated
that
he
can
deliver
on
what
he
says.
He's
gonna,
deliver
on
and
I
think
what
he
got
paid
last
time
was
probably
far
less
than
you
know
what
what
went
into
that
project
may
be
called
for
so
I
hope
we
I
know
so
he's
really
a
tremendous
resource
and
I
do
hope
that
we
will
support
that
work
on
an
ongoing
basis.
I
should.
B
Say
that
there's
another
proposal
in
loomio
right
now
from
enable
Medi
mid-eighteen
there
is
to
continue
their
work.
It's
getting
some
healthy
discussion
and
Adam
arm
feels
and
submitted,
as
is
being
responsive
and
receptor.
So
it
would
be
worth
more
people
looking
at
it
and
not
just
waiting
for
other
people
to
comment.
Give
them
a
sense
of
what
what
the
sentiment
that
the
community
is
yeah.
A
B
B
You
know
that
that's
a
good
point
and
what
we
have
found
and
I
don't
know
if
I
reminded
Adam
of
this,
but
I
did
last
time.
He
submitted
that
when
a
new
post
goes
into
Lumia
or
any
discussion,
you
need
to
market
it.
I
would
say
now
into
the
hub
and
into
one
or
two
of
the
social
media
groups
and
that
both
alerts,
people
and
it
recruits
more
people
into
the
into
Lumia.
So
it's
like
it's
not
enough,
just
to
drop
it
in
there.
Typically,
you.
C
Mentioned
something
which
I
want
to
just
call
the
attention
as
folks
here
John,
you
know,
through
your
efforts,
I
reached
out
to
seven
different
Facebook
groups,
marketing
enable
mm-hmm
and
send
email
posts
and
everything.
Interestingly,
right
now,
I
have
four
people
across
the
u.s.
that
I'm
offline
working
with
on
how
to
put
cases
into
ewc
or
actually
just
being
an
ear
for
them
to
tell
me
about
the
challenges
they're
facing,
so
that
effort
is
working
slowly,
but
sort
of
you
know
viral
like
so.
B
I
think
a
lot
of
what
we
do
actually
does,
but
there's
a
fair
amount
of
activity
under
the
surface.
So
that's
a
good
thing
that
there's
good
activity,
it's
important
that
it's
surface
periodically
or
we
don't
know
about
it,
but
that's
great!
Listen
it
being
that
time
of
year
and
this
being
a
week
in
which
Farb
recur
has
done
a
half
a
dozen
things
really
excellent,
like
I,
just
want
to
say
Bob
thanks
or
continue
to
take
lots
of
these
things
on
and
handling
them.
So
so
professionally.
C
B
A
All
right
so
we're
gonna
have
to
wrap
up
here
and
move
into
our
next
meeting.
I
do
want
to
call
attention
real,
quick
before
we
wrap
to
the
next
topic
on
here,
which
is
enable
volunteering
needs,
because
a
lot
of
what
we've
talked
about
today
feeds
into
this.
So
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
Ben
created
this
spreadsheet.
There's
a
link
in
here
and
on
that
spreadsheet.
We
have
a.
You
know,
a
list
of
call-outs
for
things
that
we
need
from
volunteers
and
contract
progress,
but
I,
don't
think
we've
really
made
use
of
it.
A
But
you
know
it's:
it's
been
a
little
bit.
You
know
unused,
since
we
put
it
out
there,
so
I
want
to
just
remind
everyone
that
we
have
that
and
let's,
let's
try
to
get
some
of
these
things.
We've
talked
about
into
that
list.
Good
point,
okay,
so
I
think
we
need
to
move
into
our
next
meeting
at
this
point
with
the
Deloitte
team.
So
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
call
a
wrap
to
this.
Unless
anybody
has
anything
last-minute
before
we
wrap
you.