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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #52 [2021/02/16]
Description
Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/160
A
A
B
In
a
nutshell,
I
think
everybody
that
I've
spoken
to
so
far
leads
me
to
believe
that,
in
fact,
the
prototype,
as
you
guys,
laid
out
some
months
ago,
still
stands.
I
don't
think
there
needs
to
be
any
significant
change
to
the
scope
of
the
prototype
or
the
brief
that
we
put
into
to
michael
so
there's
no
sort
of
threat
to
commercials.
B
There,
michael
and
I
had
had
a
very
brief
chat
about
your
budgetary
concern
pooja,
so
I
invited
michael
on
the
cold
state
to
cover
essentially
now
now
that
we
seem
to
have
agreed
at
a
high
level
what
the
the
website
should
focus
on
assuming
that's
agreed
about,
michael
on
today,
to
just
cover
what
he
thinks.
The
next
steps
will
be
for
from
his
perspective
and
perhaps
michael
if
we
could
cover
your
thoughts
on
the
the
hosting
support
challenge
as
well.
If
that's,
okay,.
A
B
B
B
What
do
we
link
out
to
and
then,
after
that,
I've
tried
to
reorganize
that
into
a
sensible
sort
of
re-listing
that
takes
into
account
the
prototype
that
we
put
together
and
also
takes
into
account
the
discussions
that
we've
been
having
around
any
potential
content.
Migration,
in
short,
where
I
was
coming
from
with
the
with
this,
is
that,
given
the
content
that
exists
on
the
cat
herders
website,
now
it
is
already
an
index.
B
So,
given
that
it's
more
just
a
reorganization
next
size
to
make
sure
that
the
sections
follow
the
suggestions
that
you
guys
have
already
recommended
in
the
prototype
which
I've
done
in
the
second
section,
it
should
be
self-explanatory
but
happy
to
field
any
questions
if
anyone's
got
any
right.
Now,
although
I
appreciate
you've
had
literally
two
minutes
to
review
this.
B
Yeah,
I
think
the
spirit
of
it
is
that
the
new
website
should
continue
to
list
index
wise.
The
resources
that
came
herders
would
like
to
to
link
to,
but
to
set.
Those
in
context
of
this
is
what
can't
hurt
us
to
do.
This
is
what
can't
hurt
us
support
with.
Please
join
us
sorry
to
boil
that
down
to
pithy
statements,
but
there
you
go.
A
C
C
C
That
would
be
throw
up
any
red
flags
or
or
be
of
issue
in
terms
of
extending
out
the
timeline
that
has
sort
of
already
been
agreed
on.
So
I
think
this
is
very
well
done.
I
I
think,
we're
very
much
in
alignment
here
so
really
not
too
much
to
speak
on
more
than
that
in
terms
of
the
outline
here
in
relation
to
the
hosting
costs
shane,
and
I
did
have
a
discussion
on
that
and
it's
something
I'm
I'm
definitely
open
to
working
with
the
cat
herders
on.
C
C
I
don't
necessarily
have
a
solution
in
terms
of
or
an
alternative,
rather
for
you
in
terms
of
eliminating
costs
in
terms
of
what
what,
when
vatica,
would
get
out
of
that
just
sort
of
rostering
of
consciousness.
I'd
like
to
propose
to
the
team
here
that
I'm
open
to
the
idea
of
minimizing
the
monthly
support
maintenance
fee,
which
is
the
150
a
month
charge
significantly,
if
not
altogether.
A
Yeah,
so
I
was
wondering
like
like
in
the
last
meeting
I
I
proposed
of
you
know
hosting
it
with
the
help
of
github.
I
know
you
may
not
have
access
to
that
right
now
on
the
github
repository,
but
I
was
wondering
like
how
difficult
it
would
be
if
we
provide
you
the
access
and
you
know
to
get
it
done
with
the
help
of
github,
so
that
we
can
at
least
save
on
that
path.
C
And
just
to
be
clear
yeah
I
mean
I
don't
think
anyone
really
enjoys
advertisements,
so
I
would
use
that
term
loosely.
It
can
be
as
subtle
as
the
theorem
cat
herders
would
like
really
just
more
after
the
the
the
visual
acknowledgement
somewhere
on
the
site
and
then
just
the
back
link.
So
it
can,
it
can
be
I'm
not
looking
for
anything
necessarily
competing
with
with
with
the
goals
of
the
ethereum
cat
herders,
I
don't.
We
don't
need
anything
flashy
or
crazy,
but
that
that's
all.
D
A
And,
at
the
same
time,
I
would
be
curious
to
know
on
the
part
thoughts
on
the
part
of
database
requirement
right.
As
far
as
I
understand
most
of
the
things
here
are
just
pointers
and
they
are
going
towards
some
or
the
other
github
link,
or
maybe
a
youtube
link,
or
something
like
that.
So
how
important
it
is
to
have
our
own.
You
know
database
here
that
can
that
needs.
You
know
external
hosting.
C
Well,
if
we
decide
to
continue
the
route
of
a
dedicated,
wordpress
foundation,
which
I
would
still
advocate
for
in
this
case,
both
in
the
long
and
short
term,
I
think,
is
still
appropriate
here.
If
we
do
decide
to
maintain
that
direction,
it
will
require
a
database
specifically
a
mysql
based
database.
C
I
can
well
let
me
let
me
ask
the
question
this
way.
If
the
ethereum
cat
herders
agrees
on
and
comes
to
a
consensus
that
the
150
a
month,
support
maintenance
fee
can
be
removed
in
lieu
of
some
form
of
advertisement
for
inveticus
services
on
the
ethereum
cat,
herders
website
and
you're
left
with
the
remaining
25
hosting
fee.
B
A
A
You
know,
kind
of
independence
so
far
and
I'm
not
sure
we
have
seen
any
kind
of
promotion.
I
mean
at
least
I
have
not
seen
like
mention.
Obviously
mentioning
is
a
good
idea,
but
I
would
definitely
like
to
hear
thoughts
of
other
people.
Personally,
I
have
absolutely
no
objection
on
that
part
at
least
giving
a
shout
out,
or
you
know
mentioning
it
permanently,
that
this
site
has
been
developed
by
these
people
or
not.
Okay,
I
think
hudson
just
left
a
comment.
A
A
Okay,
okay,
so
let's
hear
more
thought
on
this
and
come
back
to
it
on
this
proposal
next
week,
but
I
think
in
the
meantime
we
should
definitely
move
ahead
with
whatever
the
requirement
document
is
and
the
development
that
you
are
doing.
How
do
you
think
that
you
are
going
to
provide
the
development
update
like
I
believe
it
would
take
four
to
six
weeks
of
development
time,
so
you
are
planning
to
join
every
meeting
and
provide
us
the
update?
How
how
do
you
plan
to
do
that.
C
Correct
so
what
I'm
expecting
to
do
is
by
the
next
meeting.
I
should
have
a
branding
package
to
propose
and
a
visual
mock-up
of
the
landing
page,
which
will
sort
of
provide
the
overall
direction,
both
visually
and
technically,
that
we
want
to
go.
Those
will
be
in
in
just
like
a
image
format
and
pdf
for
the
branding
package
I'll
send
those
over
either
in
chat
or
email.
C
Whatever
is
easiest,
and
then
we
can-
or
I
can
screen
share
that
during
the
meeting
to
just
kind
of
give
preview
of
what
we've
been
developing
and
at
that
point,
I'd
like
to
give
it
up
to
the
group
just
to
at
least
acknowledge
if
it
is
the
correct
direction,
voicing
any
objections
to
whether
specific
pieces
or
the
overall
direction,
just
to
sort
of
give
a
general
sense
of
what
we've
been
developing
and
then
from
that
feedback.
We'll
start
tailoring
and
go
the
next
steps
of
actually
developing
the
visual
direction.
C
A
So
yeah,
I
think,
let's
pause
this
topic
here.
Only
we
have
good
direction
for
the
next
meeting
and
in
the
meantime
I
will
try
to
collect
thoughts
from
the
rest
of
the
members
or
maybe
checking
out
with
the
people
on
the
multi-stick.
And
if
everybody
is
fine,
we
will
go
ahead
with
the
proposal
shared
today
and
we'll
come
back
to
it.
In
the
next
meeting.
A
A
I
I
discussed
it
with
the
ech
multisig
people
and
they
are
happy
to
support
the
funding
of
this
tab.
Also,
we
brought
it
in
the
last
eipip
meeting
to
cover
the
requirement.
What
we
are
actually
looking
for,
it
seems
like
people
are
basically
looking
for
replica
of
the
present
eip
bar
I'm
aware
alita
had
some
discussion
with
micah
and
probably
is
interested
in
working.
A
F
This
yeah,
so
the
bot
is
actually
not
very
cleanly
like
defined
in
terms
of
what
what
we're
doing
so
well,
no,
that's
actually
not
true
at
all.
It
is
pretty
well
defined.
As
I
understand
it,
we
are
supposed
to
be
switching
over
the
python
bot
to
javascript
action,
basically
and
just
integrating
directly
with
github,
and
what
that
really
means
is
that
you
need
to
convert.
F
F
Well,
I
think
I'm
thinking
hopefully
well,
I
don't
want
to
give
any
timeline,
but
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
just
recently
finished
converting
from
python
to
javascript.
I'm
sure
there
are
lots
of
bugs
and
stuff
that
I
need
to
fix,
but
things
are
going
smoothly
and
I
have
a
direction
and
or
path
that
I
think
will
lead
to
desirable
results.
F
Yeah,
the
only
one
block
I'm
running
into
is
like
a
proper
like
test
case
for,
like
you
know
ones
that
are
eips,
that
that
would
pass
the
bot
in
the
emps.
I
would
fail
to
pass
the
bot
because
then
I
can
do
like
because
that'll
help
me
in
development,
because
I
can
test
things
and
make
sure
everything's
working
properly.
D
F
A
A
F
E
F
Yeah,
that
would
be
interesting.
I
mean
I
don't
necessarily
know
if
I
need
access,
but
I
guess
it
might
be
useful
like
because,
if
it,
if
the
behavior
is
expected
to
be
one-to-one
right
like
that,
might
be
interesting
like
a
test
case,
but
like
the
reason
I
ask
is
just
because
like
why
am
I
building
a
github
action
if
the
bot
already
works.
E
Well,
the
bot
so
the
reason
to
do
it
on
github
actions
which,
by
the
way
can
github
actions
do
python
at
all.
No,
not
that
I
could
I
I
researched
that,
and
I
do
not
believe
so,
although
oh
okay,
because
I
thought
it
was
just
being
ported
to
being
ported
the
python
code
straight
to
actions,
but
I
could
have
been
wrong
on
that.
E
E
A
A
So
recently
I
came
across
this
requirement
of
research
report.
Molop
tao
has
announced
some
kind
of
bounty
on
different
kinds
of
reports
that
they
are
looking
for
in
ethereum
space
to
try
and
understand
like
which
are
the
areas
where
they
need
more,
where
people
need
more
support
and
if
they
are
supporting
that
particular
section
to
you,
know
kind
of
work,
more
get
more
reports
or
resources
like
that,
so
I'm
planning
to
apply
for
eth1
dot
x
section.
A
I
believe
the
characters
have
been
looking
into
network
upgrade
and
it
would
be
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
take
up
that
report
and
talk
about
the
what
are
the
issues
challenges
and
what
could
be
the
better
way
to
handle
this?
These
issues,
I'm
curious
to
know
if
anyone
is
interested
to
you
know,
work
on
this
collaborate
or
yeah
yeah
and
in
general,
if
people
are
willing
to
take
up
any
other
section
or
any
other
report.
Also,
this
is
a
good
piece
of
information
you
you
might
want
to
look
into
that.
G
I
might
be
willing
to
take
kind
of
like
a
support
role
as
I'm
like
not
taking
the
forefront,
responsibility
for
maybe
developing
the
opinion
or
writing
it
up
formally
or
anything
like
that.
But
in
terms
of
editing,
maybe
some
research
discussion
or
anything
like
that
and
I
think
I'd
be
willing
to
kind
of
help
from
that
capacity.
A
That
would
be
great,
I'm
planning
to
take
it,
the
in
the
direction
of
1559
report
that
we
did
for
community
outreach.
So
maybe
we'll
try
to
take
similar
approach
with
some
kind
of
questions,
then
we're
reaching
out
to
community
getting
information
and
then
come
up
with
the
final
report.
So
yes,
that
would
be.
E
G
Looking
at
their
needs,
it
does
seem
like
it
would
have
to
be
well-informed
decisions
for
granting
solutions
funding,
in
addition
for
being
a
resource
for
developers
to
make
the
most
informed
decisions
when
it
comes
to
adopting
a
protocol,
api
or
design
pattern.
I
do
think
it
probably
would
have
to
be
significantly
more
technical
and
significantly
longer
also
like
diving
into
different
options,
creating
a
solid
opinion
around
them
and
justifying
that
from
like
just
for
the
providing
rationale
for
justifying
the
venue.
A
A
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
mean,
if
I
can
bring
it
if
people
have
thought
an
ideal
rate
per
hour
for
funding
of
research
reports
or
that
that
is
something
that
we
do
not
have
very
much
clue
of.
I
don't
know
if
it
is
the
right
place
to
discuss
this
or
not,
but
yes
feel
free
to
ping
me.
If
you
have
thoughts
on
that.
A
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
events
and
community
meeting,
so
the
last
week,
east
denver
2021
was
concluded
and
hudson
tim,
I
and
chains
we
presented
the
future
in
ethereum.
2021
slides
are
attached
there
and
hudson,
and
I
also
participated
in
judging
and
the
next
upcoming.
The
community
meeting
is
1559
stakeholders.
A
I
have
added
the
link
to
the
medium
post
that
we
have
published.
Basically,
this
meeting
we
are
organizing
to
address
any
concern
of
miners
or
anyone
else
with
the
1559
proposal
that
ethereum
developers
are
considering
to
deploy
on
the
minute
after
berlin
upgrade.
That
would
be
there.
So
if
you
have
concerns,
we
have
reddit
post
to
collect
your
questions.
How
we
are
planning
to
do
is
it
would
be
live
streamed.
We
have
invited
few
panelists,
both
from
the
favor
of
1559
group
and
people
who
do
not
support.
A
H
So
since
we
are
into
the
market,
we
were
actually
thinking
that
you
know
there
are
so
many
projects
where
we
can
have
a
collaboration,
and
now
we
are
moving
to
l2,
and
I
I
got
to
know
that
you
know
people
in
the
ethereum
are
also
moving
towards
health.
When
there's
a
discussion
happening
around
so
who's.
Looking
for
an
opportunity
where
you
know,
projects
which
are
like
really
viable
projects
can
collaborate,
have
you
know,
talk
about
talk
about
the
project
to
each
other
communities,
and
you
know
just
broaden
that
entire
horizon.
A
A
So
if
people
are
interested
and
if
they
have
thoughts
on
it,
like
you
mentioned
about
one
project,
if
we
can
get
more
projects
in
line
and
think
of
a
series,
then
that
that
is
something
that
we
can
plan,
although,
as
far
as
I
know,
the
ethereum
fellowship
of
ethereum,
they
had
the
series
of
l2
projects
they
invited
in
their
like.
You
know,
event,
summer
event.
It
was
I
I
believe
so
anat.
She
was
here
in
the
last
meeting
and
she
shared
about
it
that
she
would
be
interested
in
that.
H
Yeah,
that's
really
really
great
any
other
projects
also
if
they
want
to
really
collaborate
over.
You
know
what
they
are
doing.
How
both
the
projects
can
be,
you
know,
can
go
to
a
larger
scale
or
contribute
to
each
other's
technology,
especially
developers
for
that
matter,
because
you
know,
there's
there's
a
community
which
is
really
strong
and
development
is
a
strong
part
of
it,
so
developers
talking
to
each
other
how
projects
can
you
know
really
improve
upon
it
and
what
best
can
be
done.
A
D
D
A
A
Moving
ahead,
the
item
is
become
an
eip
editor.
Okay,
give
me
a
minute.
Did
I
share
the
link,
so
hudson
has
submitted
a
post
and
we
are
planning
to
publish
it
as
soon
as
possible
if
people
have
thoughts
on
that
any
improvement
suggestion.
That
would
be
great.
Otherwise
I
don't
see
hudson
sorry
edson
here
on
the
call.
A
G
A
Good
okay
for
meeting
notes
again
a
reminder
for
the
submission
timeline.
I
would
encourage
people
to
be
proactive
rather
than
being
followed
up.
You
know,
please
refer
to
the
calendar,
to
follow
your
schedule
and
submit
within
three
days
of
the
meeting
five
days
in
case
of
longer
than
scheduled
share
the
notes
on
ech
discard
meeting
updates
channel
as
well
as
in
the
respective
meeting
discard
channel
like
for
eip
ipv,
go
to
eip's,
editing
channel
for
all
coda.
A
We
have
a
separate
channel
and
h2
as
well
and
in
case
of
your
unavailability
or
notes
getting
delayed
by
a
day
or
two.
Please
inform
the
group
in
advance,
in
absence
of
submission
of
a
pull
request
by
the
assigned
timeline.
The
meeting
notes
will
be
open
for
the
community
with
the
assigned
bounty
because
we
have
been
seeing
that
their
notes
are
like.
There
are
more
people
who
are
willing
to
contribute
and
people
are
looking
for
notes
and
like
as
as
early
as
possible.
A
A
C
B
Client
updates
were
everything
seems
to
be
on
track,
for
the
hf1
upgrade
is
a
call
out
for
the
naming
of
that
upgrade.
There's
a
pull
request
for
that.
But
then
the
discussion
turned
to
planning
sessions
that
danny,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
organizing
around
the
roadmap.
Specifically
merge
sharding,
I
think,
there's
a
need
to
pull
the
community
together
on
that.
A
A
Not
that
I'm
aware
of
right
now,
what
we
are
doing
is
like
the
proposals
that
people
are
considering
for
eth2,
I'm
trying
to
get
them
on
p
penny
so
that
there
is
awareness
of
what
is
undergoing
the
hard
work
of
each
two
as
well
as
there
are
some
proposals
which
are
not,
which
will
not
be
getting
in
too
hard
for,
but
they
would
be
implemented
and
they
are
already
implemented.
So
we
had
this
meeting.
A
A
The
announcement
gave
us
over
200
subscribers
in
three
days:
400
percent
of
increase
in
view
time
and
300
of
increase
in
watch
time,
and
that
was
really
nice.
I
mean
like
it
was
a
great
increase
thanks
thanks
for
that.
In
the
past
two
weeks,
we
conducted
peep
any
session
for
eip2266
that
is,
atomic
swap
based
american
call
option,
contract
standard
with
roon
chao
and
how
you
lin-
and
there
was
this
another
proposal
that
I
was
mentioning
earlier-
eip
3076
validated
client,
interchange
with
michael
sasha
and
danny
ryan.
A
In
terms
of
upcoming
proposals
in
the
next
two
weeks,
we
have
two
proposals
planned
eip2876
deposit
contract
and
address
standard
that
is
scheduled
today
at
5
pm
est
with
zunatan
underwood,
it's
an
erc,
but
that
is
for
wallet,
api
and
the
other.
One
is
a
eip2315,
a
simple
subroutine
for
evm
that
is
scheduled
with
berlin,
and
the
author
here
is
greg
colvin
that
we
are
planning
to
have
it
on
february,
24th.
B
A
So
the
proposal
here
was
like
we
were
thinking
if
we
can
have
an
additional
column
for
execution
fees
in
our
multi-sector
accounting,
and
only
one
person
do
the
execution,
and
they
can
also
ask
for
reimbursement
of
this
fees
and
only
after
it
is
like
over
50
or
100
and
yeah.
If
that
is
something,
people
are
okay
with.
A
A
Well,
yeah,
we
see
a
quite
a
few
open
funding
requests.
I
think
those
are
all
approved,
but
if
we
do
not
get
any
strong
opinion
here,
we
can
start
this
by
simply
showing
the
obviously
the
fees
that
this
charge
there
will
be
added
in
the
additional
column
in
the
multi-fake
accounting,
and
that
way
we
can
go.
A
Okay,
so
that
was
it
and
the
last
item
on
the
agenda
is
notes
and
decision
and
action
items
from
meeting
51
decision
51.1
seems
to
be
consensus
to
proceed
with
the
improvement
on
the
github
actions
but
alita
to
take
forward
puja
to
raise
with
multi-state
group.
We
already
discussed
this
it
is,
it
has
been
approved
by
multisig
people
and
the
alita
is
working
on
it
number
two
consensus
to
move
forward
with
unvertica
website
proposal,
including
hosting
and
support
shane,
to
continue
supporting
with
michael
unvertica,
to
deliver
and
to
work
with
pujon
content
change
path.
A
A
Action
one
reconsider
the
website
prototype.
I
think
this
has
already
been
addressed.
Action
to
all
the
posts
all
to
post.
Any
further
thoughts
on
website
rebuild
content,
discussion,
yeah
feel
free
to
add.
If
you
have
any
thoughts
or
suggestion
on
the
document
shared
by
shane
today,
action
three
alita
to
review
requirement
for
github
action
board.
I
think
she
would
continue
understanding
the
requirement
there
and
will
have
something
to
share
with
us
in
by
the
next
meeting.