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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #51 [2021/02/02]
Description
Agenda - https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/158
A
B
Yes,
okay,
hi
guys,
I'm
annette
and
I'm
from
ethereum
magicians,
and
today
I
would
like
to
bring
to
this
call
ideas
or
discussion
about
ethereum
kid
heller's
road
map.
As
we
are
on
behalf
of
magicians,
we
are
getting
ready,
some
open
road
map
or
like
road
map
that
we
want
to
publicly
share
with
the
community.
B
We've
been
working
on
a
layer
two
session
and
we
were
thinking
of
continuing
on
that
front
as
well
to
probably
nurture
the
layer
2
and
like
share
the
word
around
that
and
work
on
events
on
like
more
into
layer,
two
estate
channels,
and
then
that's
pretty
much
it
that
we
have.
We
can't
we
we
came
up
with,
but
we
are
open
to
hear
your
ideas.
What
is
like
on
your
agenda
for
this
year,
like
what
are
your
plans.
C
A
A
So
definitely
we
could
talk
more
on
that
and
I
believe
we
have
one
agenda
item
also,
that
is
about
a
community
call
that
is
listed
for
the
meeting
today.
So
looking
forward
to
collaborating
work
together,
sounds
perfect.
Thank
you,
okay,
so
I
have
shared
the
agenda
in
the
chat
and,
let's
move
on
with
the
first
item.
A
One
of
the
items
that
we
discussed
was
moving
eip
resources
from
the
cat
herders
website
to
the
ethereum
dot
org
and
on
the
ethereum
ethereum
catalyst
website.
We
will
just
point
it
to
the
eip
page
at
ethereum.org
for
like
more
information
on
that
website,
so
it
was
suggested
that
the
cat
holders
website
should
focus
on
being
an
index
rather
than
an
in-depth
content
repository,
and
it
should
point
to
the
canonical
resource
canonical
source
elsewhere,
like
at
one
dot
or
spec
repo
for
network
upgrades
ethereum.org
for
other
stuff
to
avoid
a
duplication.
A
A
D
A
Right
so
the
main
question
here
is
about
the
migration
of
the
content
like
currently,
we
are
creating
curating
resources
for
eips
and
we
are
having
it
at
cathode's
website.
So
the
question
with
the
rest
of
the
group
member
here
would
be
like.
Is
it
okay
to
just
keep
on
moving
all
the
stuff
from
ethereum
cathedral's
website
to
ethem.org
and
we'll
be
just
pointing
it
towards
the
ethereum.org.
D
I
think
that's
okay,
based
on
if
we
just
look
at
the
notes
from
last
meeting
and
kind
of
talk
about
the
specifics
of
what
we
went
through.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
trend
or
the
theme
behind
what
we
move
and
what
we
don't
move
is
if
it
is
an
overview
of
something
or
if
it
is
links
to
so
I
guess
if
it
gets
down
to
like
the
protocol
layer.
D
So
if
it's
like
the
eth1
point
of
spec,
repo
and
stuff,
so
like
the
upgrade
document
for
yolo,
we
don't
want
to
move
the
upgrade
document
for
yolo
v3
or
the
one
for
berlin.
But
we
do
want
a
section
on
the
ethereum.org
website
that
says:
here's
what,
where
the
documents
are
and
then
point
them
to
github
on
other
sections,
we
can
have
sections
where
there's
like
network
upgrade
information
on
ethereum.org
and
that
can
be
taken
off
the
cat
herders
website.
Hudson.
A
If
I,
if
I
may
interrupt
because
the
comment
was
in
three
sections,
this
particular
topic
that
I'm
trying
to
bring
here
is
not
about
the
ethereum
network,
upgrade
it's
about
the
eip
resources
say,
for
example,
we
do
it
for
1559,
evm,
384,
there's
a
list
of
curated
resources
and,
like
you
know,
for
ethereum
network
upgrade
as
we
discussed
in
the
eipip
meeting
like
you,
you
suggested
that
it's
better
to
get
in
touch
with
chains
and
then
do
it.
So
sorry,
sorry
for
the
interruption,
but
I
oh.
A
I
should
have
been
more
clear,
so
this
particular
is
about
eip
resources
to
be
moved
to
ethereum.org,
so
I'm
gonna
share
the
link
in
the
chat.
Also
it
is
there
in
one
of
the
items.
If
we
look
into
there,
the
ethereum
cathode
is
present
website.
They
have
the
list
of
these
resources
for
eips
under
discussion.
We
have
listed
it
for
evm
384.
A
So
the
main
question
here
is
like:
is
it
okay
to
move
over
the
entire
content
to
the
ethereum.org
page
and
we
just
have
the
pointer?
Okay?
Fine!
If
you
want
to
read
about
it,
this
you
can
go
to
ethereum.org
or
we
want
to
do
it
vice
versa.
We
want
to
still
keep
all
these
content
on
our
website
and
ask
them
to
point
it
towards
us.
D
I
like
the
first
idea
personally,
where
we
move
most,
if
not
all,
of
it
to
ethereum.org,
and
we
leave
our
website
to
point
to
it
so
that
there's
a
more
centralized
place
for
the
data,
with
the
exception
of
I
think,
they're,
the
eip
resources
section,
I
think,
has
eips
that
don't
necessarily
line
up
with
anything.
I
guess
I'm
thinking
from
a
perspective
of
a
first-time
visitor
to
this
eip
section
on
either
website
if
they
come
here
and
they
see
evm,
384,
2537,
1559
and
progpal
and
account
abstraction,
there's
nothing.
D
That
is
like
a
paragraph
explaining
why
these
are
all
in
a
list
on
our
website.
It
makes
more
sense
because
it's
things
we've
contributed
to.
So
if
we
do
port
it
over,
we
shouldn't
do
it
wholesale.
We
shouldn't
just
port
it
over
completely.
We
should
be
selective
and
curated
when
we
do
which
we
can
easily
do
in
a
document
just
like
be
like
move
this,
don't
move
that
you
know,
move
this
but
add
this
paragraph
above
it
that
kind
of
thing.
A
Okay,
so
yes,
these
resources
are
just
curated,
some
of
them
we
have
organized
and
some
of
them
other
community
member
did
that
we
just
have
collected
it
here
for
people
to
refer.
If
somebody
wants
to
have
information
on
any
of
the
eip,
they
can
just
visit
here
and
get
the
list
of
that.
But,
as
you
suggested,
maybe
it
would
make
more
sense
to
first
to
come
up
with
the
list
again
like
what
particular
section
that
we
want
to
move
there.
D
Yeah,
it's
just
I
just
don't
want
to
do
a
whole
copy
and
paste
of
the
page
is
all
I
don't.
We
don't
need
to
go
into
like
a
super
amount
of
detail,
but
just
just
maybe
one
google
doc.
So
we
don't
do
too
many,
because
I
don't
want
to
get
over
bureaucratic,
but
just
something
that
will
say
like
leave
comments
that
say:
hey.
We
should
move
this
or
hey.
We
should
not
move
that.
C
A
A
D
D
A
Right
right,
we
I
think
we
may
have
to
change
from
the
original
prototype
that
we
have
created
now
that
we
are
considering
some
of
the
contents
to
be
kept
and
some
to
be
moved
over
there.
We
may
have
to
like
work
on
that
part,
but
on
and
all
as
as
it
appears
that
we
would
like
to
be
focused
on
who
are
we
what
we
do
and
how
to
get?
How
to
be
a
part
of
this
group?
C
Sounds
that
way
to
me
like,
if
we're
thinking
about
the
use,
the
journey
of
a
person
who
perhaps
might
be
completely
fresh
to
ethereum,
let's
say
they:
google
it
for
the
first
time
they're
likely
going
to
hit
ethereum.org
resources.
So
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
the
general
overview
type
information?
That's
where
that
type
of
information
belongs.
E
F
A
F
I
think
hudson
was
making
a
point
around
this
also,
so
I
duplication
of
effort-
I
don't
think,
is
so
bad
because
the
goals
in
both
places
are
different
and
the
information,
even
if
it's
about
identical
subjects,
would
most
likely
be
presented
differently
on
ethereum.org
we're
looking
to
provide
information
like
let's
say
we're
talking
about
1559,
so
we'd
be
talking
about
what
it
is.
What
work
has
been
done
on
it,
where
it's
going
like
you
know
different
resources,
whereas
with
ethereum
characters
we
may
be
doing
the
exact
same
thing.
F
That
information
may
still
be
there,
but
there's
going
to
be
a
certain
framing
of
this
is
something
that
we're
involved
with.
This
is
something
we're
helping
make
happen
like
you
know:
ethereum
cat
herders
do
1559
outreach,
ethereum
cat
herder,
tim
baiko
like
puts
out
1559
stuff
on
hackmd
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
The
narrative
changes
between
the
two
different
between
the
two
different
sites,
so
I
mean,
I
would
say,
probably
in
the
opposite
direction.
F
There
probably
a
lot
of
duplication
between
the
two,
but
the
the
way
the
content
is
presented
and
what
kind
of
narrative
the
content
has,
I
think,
would
need
to
be
different
between
the
two
places.
That
might
be
a
bit
inefficient,
though,
if
you're
interested
in
the
efficiency,
I
think
that
probably
a
lot
of
the
information
that
would
end
up
on
ethereum.org,
which
would
be
much
more
neutral,
can
probably
be
replicated
not
so
difficultly,
which
wasn't
bored
in
in
a
cat
herder's
website.
It
wouldn't.
F
H
H
D
I
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
curious.
If
maybe
I
can
chime,
I
don't
know
if
it's
appropriate
or
not,
but
if
I
could
chime
in
and
maybe
suggest
some
information
here
based
on
what
I'm
kind
of
hearing,
so
it
helps,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
when
I
think
about
the
audience
that
we're
trying
to
appease
to
here
and,
in
my
opinion,
we
sort
of
have
two
core
audiences
that
we're
trying
to
tap
into.
I
I
So
in
that
spirit,
what
I
see
is
and
what
like
what
I'd
like
to
agree
to,
is,
I
think
that
it's
a
really
good
direction
to
have
the
etherium.org
site
be
sort
of
the
source
of
truth.
If
you
will
that
everything
is
or
most
of
the
content
is
linked
to
ethereum.org
and
then
what
ethereum
cat
herders
website
effectively
acts,
as
is
a
news
aggregate
for
the
information.
That's
pulled
from
ethereum.org,
so
say,
for
example,
we're
talking
about
a
specific
eip.
I
That
information
is
typically,
it
doesn't
mean
anything
to
newcomers.
So
the
role
of
ethereum
cat
herder's
website
then
would
be
to
take
the
information
that
is
being
pushed
by
you
ethereum
cat
herders,
but
also
in
alignment
with
the
ef,
so
you're
taking
those
eips,
you're
digesting
and
expanding
on
them.
So
maybe
there's
a
blog
post
or
the
section
specific
to
eips,
where,
when
someone
clicks
on
the
eip
card,
it
goes
into
maybe
just
a
brief
summary
explaining
what
those
things
are
and
then
links
to
the
resources
available
to
the
ethereum.org
website.
I
That
way,
it
provides
a
platform
for
ethereum
cat
herders
to
push
your
own
agenda,
align
with
the
ef
and
also
provide
a
valuable
service
which
is
providing
education
and
exp
expanding
on
some
of
these
abstract,
very
technically
heavy
aspects
within
ethereum.
So
that
would
that
would
be
my
suggestion
and
how
to
proceed.
D
A
A
Okay,
moving
on
the
next
item
for
discussion
was
funding
github
action.
This
is
another
actionable
point
coming
out
of
eipip
meeting.
That
is
like
the
current
eip
bot
needs.
Some
fixing
and
the
group
is
planning
to
create
a
bounty
on
bitcoin
or
a
similar
platform
to
get
the
test
done
with
the
other
group
member
did
some
math
and
estimated
the
funds
that
might
be
required
for
the
tax
that
is
available
in
the
link.
A
As
mentioned
earlier,
we
that
we
are
hoping
to
fund
some
of
the
community
tasks
and
with
the
price
increase
of
earth
we
may
have
some
buffer.
So,
according
to
an
estimate,
this
amount
is
somewhere
around
7000
usd
that
might
be
needed
for
the
bounty.
So
if
anyone
has
any
thoughts
on
it,
question
concerns
for
this
bounty.
H
Oh,
I
would
love
to
work
on
that
by
the
way
I
remember
actually
when
I
when
I
first
came
into
ethereum
categories.
That
was
why
I
came
in
because
I
wanted
to
work
on
that.
So,
oh
yeah,
I
would
love
to
to
do
something
on
that.
Assuming
that
I
have
time
or
whatever
I
I
will
review
that
on
my
own,
but.
D
H
A
Yeah,
so
the
purpose
of
bringing
it
to
this
agenda.
This
meeting
today
is
like
getting
thought
on
people
if
they
have
any
concerns
or
if
this
is
fine
by
everybody,
because
we
have
been
looking
for
some
opportunities
to
contribute
more
to
the
ecosystem,
and
this
is
one
of
the
very
good
way
to
fund
to
the
eip.
Broken
bot.
A
A
A
So
far
we
have
received
two
proposals,
one
by
ann
vertica,
which
is
represented
by
shame,
but
michael,
is
here
today
to
talk
to
us
another
from
elita
and
as
for
my
understanding
from
anwatica's
proposal,
the
proposal
is
overall
for
500
usd
to
cover,
build
and
branding
of
the
subject:
dollar
25
a
month
of
charge,
if
that
has
to
be
hosted
on
the
on
vertical
server
and
dollar
150
per
month.
If
we
want
to
maintain
the
overall
site
support
and
the
time
estimated
for
this
is
like
four
weeks.
A
Alita's
proposal
brings
forty
five
hundred
dollars
for
development
and
maintenance
work,
although
the
technologies
that
they
are
using
are
entirely
different
and
maintenance
would
be
provided
on
case
basis,
just
one
more
information
that
I
would
like
to
add
here
is
like,
as
per
the
present
website.
I
know
that
is
not
like
very
fancy
or
very
good
looking,
but
as
per
my
information,
we
are
paying
25
usd
for
dns,
and
that
is
there
for
one
one
year
of
website.
A
So
in
the
last
meeting
we
we
heard
the
details
of
the
proposal
and
we
are
thinking
of
maybe
moving
ahead
in
this
direction,
considering
everything
that
we
discussed
on
the
earlier
agenda
item
about
what
to
be
kept
on
the
cat
orders
and
what
to
be
moved
out
of
that
yeah.
I'm
just
curious
to
know
what
people
think
about
it
like
on
the
proposal
side.
D
Cool
I
can.
I
can
agree
with
that.
I
guess
I
would
also
say
I
think
alita
your
proposal
is
really
good.
If
we
had
more
that
we
were
if
we
were
doing
more
than
just
information,
giving
like
something
a
little
deeper
and
more
custom,
I
think
would
be
good
for
you
and
edson's
proposal,
but
for
our
needs
right
now.
I
do
like
shane's
better
for
the
price
and
yeah.
D
It
would
be
something
where,
in
the
future,
if,
like
we
start
getting
interactive,
when
we
have
our
year
2025
cat
herders
con,
then
we
need
you
know
stuff
like
that,
maybe
integrated
we
could
reapproach
something.
That's
like
a
different
than
wordpress
kind
of
thing,
even
though
I
think
wordpress
has
plug-ins
for
that
anyway.
But
you
know
what
I
mean
like
if
there's
something
more
complicated
or
the
need
arises,
we
still
have
you
know
the
year's
proposal
as
well
of.
H
Course
well
and
then
also
like.
Ultimately,
the
the
engineered
solution
is
the
most
useful
if
you,
if
you
want
to
like.
Ultimately,
if
you
want
to
hire
somebody
to
work
on
the
website,
kind
of
like
part-time
or
whatever,
I'm
just
kind
of
continually,
because,
like
that's
kind
of
where
you'll
get
the
most
benefit
from
it,
so.
A
D
H
D
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I
I
do
sorry
to
interrupt.
I
do
like
netlify
because
we
use
it
at
the
ef
some
you
can
like
check
our
dns
and
we
do
have
it
pointing
to
some
network
instances.
The
problem
is:
if
traffic
ever
spikes,
they
do
start
charging
for
that,
whereas,
if
we're
on
the
server
that
shane's
providing
it
seems
like
it
would
be
more
flexible
to
go
up
and
down
and
bandwidth
charges,
because
netlify
really
eats
you
up
with
fees.
Once
you
start
getting
like
more
traffic
to
your
side
of
any
kind.
H
See
like
the
thing
is
that
I
I
don't
know
like
I
like
what
is
our
expected
traffic,
you
know
what
I
mean
like
and
then
would
it
be
possible
to
start
with
netify
and
then
move
over
to
a
different
hosting
platform.
If
that
becomes
like
financially,
I'm
just
worried
that,
like
we
would
be
kind
of
over
planning
the
the
host,
because,
ultimately,
if
we
only
have,
if
we
have
a
small
bandwidth
that
netlify
might
work,
because
what
wasn't
it
like,
like
25
a
month
or
something
for
the
hosting,
with
the
other
option,.
I
Yeah
in
terms
of
need,
that's
a
little
hard
for
me
specifically
to
address
just
not
having
insights
to
any
analytics
or
historical
data,
but
in
terms
of
the
25
charge
and
what
that
gets
you.
So
it's
a
dedicated
server,
there's
nothing
else
running
on
it.
It
would
just
be
ethereum
cat
harders
in
terms
of
bandwidth,
it's
dynamically
set,
so
there's
no
charge
in
terms
of
how
much
you
consume.
I
So
it's
a
flat
25
if
you're,
using
only
a
couple
kb.
You
know
it's
great
for
us,
obviously,
but
if
you're
getting
thousands
of
hits
a
month
or
a
day,
that's
the
same
thing
we
dynamically
scale
to
those
spikes
as
well,
so
we're
good
on
that
side,
that's
kind
of
why
we
do
the
flat
one,
just
to
average
everything.
D
Yeah-
and
I
guess
the
other
thing
I
was
thinking
alita
and
also
a
net
because
annette
posted
about
netlify
it
seemed
like
netlify-
is
for
people
who
need
to
rebuild
the
instance
a
lot
like
if
you're
running
a
site
that
has
live,
updates
or
is
going
to
be
updated.
Frequently,
you
can
do
a
lot
of
deployment
stuff,
whereas
with
wordpress,
except
for
updating
the
wordpress
itself,
there's
not
like
redeployment
needs,
it
just
kind
of
sits.
There.
H
D
H
H
D
Deployment
so
that
yeah
this
is,
this
is
really
good
annette.
If
we
were
to
do
deployments,
we
just
won't
be
doing
deployments
really
is
the
only
thing
so
like
any
of
the
plugins
that
netlify
would
have
especially
the
ones
around
deployments
like
I,
I
don't
really
see
how
that
would
help
us.
I
guess
yeah.
A
D
A
I
Right
so
we
definitely
have
that
capability.
Wordpress
allows
for
github
integration
to
an
extent.
So
if
we're
talking
effectively
like
in
general
terms,
just
text-based
updates
here,
not
anything
not
trying
to
make
adjustments
to
the
site
itself
we're
just
doing
content,
then
you
should
be
fine.
But
if
you're
trying
to
go
outside
of
that
realm,
we
may
have
to
do
something
a
little
bit
more
custom
there
to
facilitate
that.
But
yeah
we
can
definitely
tie
things
in
there.
I
A
C
A
A
But
I
think
I
got
the
answer
that
I
was
looking
for
in
terms
of
updating
the
content,
if
that
can
be
somehow
integrated
to
github,
that's
going
to
be
very,
very
helpful,
and
the
last
question
on
this
topic
from
my
end
is
one
thing
like
the
maintenance
charges.
How
do
we
want
to
add
that
in
the
proposal
150
per
month,
if
you
want
and
vatika
to
maintain
overall
site
support,
how
much
site
support
we
are
expecting
here
and
do
we
want
to
have
these.
A
E
A
I
E
A
D
A
A
H
A
D
D
D
Oh,
when
I
say
join,
I
mean
applying
to
participate
even
just
like
as
a
mentor
or
an
attendee,
or
something
like
that
and
yeah.
If
we
we
don't
have
to
it's
not
like,
we
have
to
have
an
official
presence,
but
it's
just
more
like
it's
a
really
cool
event.
If
anyone
wants
to
sign
up
on
their
own
accord,
okay.
D
A
D
D
So,
like
people
can
put
like
their
real
names
or
nicknames
or
whatever
they
want,
and
I
don't
think
people
are
going
to
because
I
know
people
use
pseudonyms
and
other
things
like
that
before.
So
it's
probably
not
a
problem,
but
it
is
something
that
they
should
specify.
In
my
opinion,
too.
Okay,
that
makes
sense.
A
A
A
That
is
a
very
interesting
upgrade
on
upgradeable
proxy.
We
had
good
conversation
with
authors
with
some
question
answers
there's
an
overview.
It
also
included
a
wonderful
remix
demo.
It's
a
good
watch
for
adapt
developers.
If
people
are
interested,
you
can
go
to
ethereum
categories,
youtube
channel
and
there's
this
playlist
of
peep
in
it
that
contains
all
the
eips
that
we
have
recorded
so
far.
A
A
This
is
a
core
proposal,
but
it's
not
getting
into
hf1,
as
announced
on
last
thursday
by
vitalik.
This
has
already
been
implemented
in
some
of
the
clients.
So
if
you're
interested
to
know
more
about
it
do
join
us,
you
can
also
share
your
questions
on
the
ethereum
at
staker,
reddit
community
and
on
the
ech
discord.
We
are
going
to
share
the
join
in
link
in
the
description.
A
Next
is
a
discuss
and
close
the
ech
github
issues
and
pull
request
on
pm
side.
I
do
not
see
any
new
issue,
but
we
already
have
created
that
issue
for
a
website
update,
I'm
I'm
hoping
to
keep
it
updated
and
keep
on
adding
information.
As
as
we
proceed
on
funding
side,
we
have
quite
a
few
open
funding
issues.
I'm
going
to
create
the
initial
transaction
today
right
after
this
meeting
and
will
share
it
with
the
multisig
members
to
approve
it.
A
A
Puja
to
create
off
topic,
scam,
alert
channel
in
discord
start
using
the
channel
efficiently.
I
have
created
an
off
topic.
Channel
alert
is
yet
to
be
created
and,
yes,
we
will.
We
are
trying
to
use
the
channel
like
for
more
communication,
puja
to
add
shane
to
the
meeting
calendar.
He
is
already
there
and
that's
it
on
the
agenda.
Does
anyone
want
to
bring
anything.