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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #42 [2020/09/15]
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Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/137
A
B
Sure
so,
like
puja
said
as
part
of
1559
calls,
we
realized.
Well,
we
discussed
that
this
is
going
to
impact
a
large
number
of
people
in
the
ecosystem
so
because
1559
changes,
the
transaction
format,
basically
anything
that
sends
or
reads
or
analyzes
transactions
will
have
to
change,
and
that's
a
pretty
pretty
big,
pretty
big
lift.
So
we
wanted
to
better,
try
and
understand
what
what
is
the
back
to
1559
on
on
on
the
ecosystem.
And
what
can
we
do
to
make
it
easier
for
for
projects
to
adopt
it?
B
So
pooja
pooja
has
done
it
yesterday
and
I
think
if
we
start
getting
more
meetings,
we
might
even
be
able
to
like
split
between
two
sort
of
teams
doing
the
meetings
yeah.
So
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
check
if
anyone
here
was
was
interested
and
taking
notes
for
those
calls
would
be
paid
just
like
other
core
devs
calls
or
whatnot.
A
A
A
A
So
I
being
in
category
resource,
I'm
already
engaged
with
some
of
the
tasks,
as
you
mentioned
and
like
I
am
a
part
of
the
multisig
for
1559
bitcoin
bounty,
maintain
the
outgoing
transaction
sheet
kind
of
create
a
roadmap
to
provide-
and
you
know,
estimate
a
timeline
and
some
or
the
other
work,
but
with
the
increased
need
in
efforts.
The
1559
group,
the
funding
group
who
are
managing
the
public
funds,
came
up
with
a
budget
to
engage
more
resources
and
fund
the
outreach
task
that
we,
the
cat
heard
us
can
do.
A
This
is
the
proposed
outline
of
efforts
by
tim
baiko,
and
the
group
has
approved
this
budget.
The
total
funding
is
estimated
to
be
somewhere
around
500
die
and
that
will
be
provided
in
tranches,
so
the
first
grant
of
2500
die
has
already
been
transferred
to
ethereum
cathedral
multisig,
the
transaction
77
there.
So
the
task
listed
here,
the
first
one
create
a
user
interview
questionnaire
that
is
completed,
but
other
than
that.
I
think
there
are
three
more
tabs
that
we
can
consider
contact
this
stakeholder
to
try
and
schedule
calls
with
them.
A
A
If
they
have
any
concern,
so
we
have
kind
of
created
a
questionnaire
for
that
and
like
we
have,
the
list
is
divided
into
like
first
to
reach
them
then
to
schedule
call
as
to
mention
that
note
taking
also
is
a
part
of
it,
but
we
don't
have
to
do
the
entire
note
taking
just
like
we
do
it
for
all
quarter,
meeting
and
other
meetings.
It
would
be
in
a
set
format
so
yeah
that
is
it,
and
if
anybody
is
interested
they
can,
let
me
or
team
know
about
it.
A
C
A
C
B
Here
it
has
been
compiled,
we
have
a
high
level
list
of
projects,
but
we
don't
have
contacts
on
those
projects
and
I
think
there's
value
in
you
know
adding
beyond
that
list.
If
and
when
we
we
find
good
people
yeah.
So
so
there's
definitely
still
some
work
in
just
you
know,
building
out
that
list
and
reaching
out
to
people
and
and
whatnot
yeah
got
it.
A
A
Cool,
so
the
next
item
is
a
breakout
room
update,
so
yeah
I've
been
like
in
the
previous
meeting
we
discussed
about
having
a
breakout
room
thanks
to
hudson.
He
has
already
created
one
after
mentioning
it
in
the
all
core
dev
meeting
and
the
sessions
are
now
started
so
far.
We
have
two
meetings
concluded
in
past
15
days.
It's
like
one
meeting
per
week
generally
that
happens
on
monday
at
1400
utc.
A
So
originally
it
was
planned
for
having
one
eip
per
breakout
meeting,
but
the
last
two
that
we
did
was
dedicated
to
yolo
version
2
discussion,
so
the
agenda
and
summary
is
added
in
ethereum
pm
github.
I'm
sharing
the
link
here
and
in
in
the
last
meeting
that
happened
yesterday.
We
also
discussed
the
frequency
of
this
meeting
like
how
people
want
to
have
this
meeting
scheduled
like
getting
it
every
week
or
two
week
or
whatever.
A
A
D
Yeah,
I
encourage
us
to
look
at
the
breakout
room,
channel
and
eth1,
because
I
posed
a
question
to
alexi
this
morning
at
midnight,
my
time
about
how
like
how
we
can
prevent
this
from
turning
into
a
lot
of
calls
and
what's
the
ideal
format
for
an
asynchronous
medium
for
this
type
of
stuff
and
micah
and
alexi
and
martin
suende
and
a
few
other.
I
think
that
was
it
actually
chimed
in.
I
thought
they
had
some
really
good
comments.
B
So
I
was
on
those
and
I
think
it's
it's
not
as
productive
when
you
only
have
half
the
people
there
so
on
both
the
meetings.
You
know
you
have,
people
like
you,
don't
have
everybody
from
all
corners
show
up,
obviously,
and
then
it
kind
of
moves
things
back
to
async
anyways
right
where
you
know
just
on
the
to
take
the
last
one.
As
a
call
nethermine
didn't
know
the
meeting
was
happening
and
then
we
needed
something
from
them,
so
we
basically
still
have
to
resolve
it,
async
as
well.
So
yeah.
D
A
Think
in
general
my
thought
is
like,
since
this
is
new,
so
I
can
understand
the
hiccups
that
are
coming
up
on
the
way
like
we
need
to
reach
out
to
every
client.
Although
we
just
started
this
communication
and
yeah,
also
I'm
not
in
a
favor
of
odd
against
of
having
it
every
week
or
every
alternate
week.
The
idea
is
to
I
mean
in
my
mind,
the
idea
is
like
if
there
is
something
that
is
taking
too
long
in
the
core
dev
meeting
and
clients
would
want
to
come
and
talk
about
it.
A
Asynchronous
is
a
good
way,
but
just
like
happened
in
the
first
breakout
room
meeting
when
everybody
was
present,
I
mean
all
clients
were
present
and
we
were
really
quick
in
deciding
on
the
proposals
and
we
moved
ahead
and
now
that
like
get
was
there
basically
there
they
they
knew
that
they
have
to
work
on
this
yellow
v2.
These
proposed
proposals
are
getting
into
it.
A
So
I
mean
like
what
I
get
from
the
meetings
like
by
end
of
this
friday,
but
when
it
is
all
called
a
meeting
time,
the
implementation
is
hopefully
would
be
done
and
the
test
net
would
be
deployed.
So
yeah
I'm
open
to
suggestions,
it's
completely
on
all
core
depth,
but
people
were
thinking
it
can
be.
You
know,
sub
channel,
for
that.
D
A
So
moving
on
the
next
item
is
ech
discord
channel
in
the
previous
meeting
we
discussed
about
you
know
having
the
last
day
for
that
that
was
like
10th
and
15th.
So
today's
15th
and
I
have
sent
a
reminder
yesterday
as
well
in
the
in
the
channels
there
for
the
community
member
as
well
as
an
internal.
So
from
this
point
we
can
move
all
our
discussion
to
cat
hardest
is
called.
A
C
A
No,
no,
it's
not
that
so
in
the
in
the
channel
itself,
like
I
and
hudson
were
asking
discussing
like
if
we
need
it
and
then
we,
if
we
are
creating
a
bridge
in
my
mind,
it
makes
perfect
sense
to
have
it
like.
Eventually,
people
will
move
here
and
we
may
not
need
the
bridge
anymore,
so
yeah.
I
think
it
make
perfect
sense.
C
C
Her
token,
if
it
will
actually
ever
be
distributed,
might
be
useful
just
to
pick
on
myself
as
an
example,
I
have
been
with
the
cat
herders
since
they
were
formed
like
consecutively,
and
I
don't
have
any
heard
tokens.
So
it's
true
I've
been
here
for
over
a
year,
but
until
there's
an
even
distribution
of
the
herd.
C
Token,
I
think
we
really
just
need
sort
of
messy
human
consensus
because,
like
let's
I
mean
especially
with
the
way
the
rules
are
handled
right
now,
basically
either
you're
a
member
or
nothing
which
means
that
someone
who's
been
here
for
less
than
a
year,
can't
even
see
or
maybe
in
some
cases
can
see
but
can't
post
into
any
of
the
cat
herder
channels.
So
for
note
takers,
that's
an
easy
example
of
someone
who's
going
to
have
a
lot
of
difficulty.
C
A
So
at
present
my
understanding
is
like
everybody,
especially
who
are
present
here
in
this
meeting
today.
All
of
them,
even
other
note
takers,
are
member.
Just
like
one.
Exceptional
is
a
letter.
So
if
there
is
a
general
consensus
to
like
move
her
to
members,
I
can
go
ahead
and
do
that
she
is
having
a
contributing
like
role
there,
and
I
was
also
thinking
about
our
community
partners.
D
Then
people
don't
know
if
they
can
say
they're,
they're,
a
cat,
herder
or
not,
and
that's
pretty
powerful,
to
say
that
you're,
a
part
of
a
group
and
be
a
representative
for
them,
and
that
also
attracts
people
to
the
group
in
the
first
place.
So
because
otherwise
that's
one
of
the
benefits
of
being
a
part
of
something.
Is
you
get
to
say
I'm
a
part
of
it
and
get
some
of
the
clout
from
that.
C
So
the
truth
is
maybe
maybe
what
really
needs
to
happen
then,
is
sort
of
an
expansion
of
the
role
set,
making
sure
that
people
in
the
contributor
role
can
get
access,
read
write
to
the
parts
of
the
discord
that
they'll
need
and
then
yeah.
I
I'm
totally
fine
with
what
you're
saying
I.
I
understand
reasoning.
D
A
A
So
yeah
these
are
general
community
member.
They
have
been
like
from
one
or
the
other
project
or
someone
from
the
athenian
foundation
itself,
some
from
other
projects.
What
do
we
have
in
mind
for
them
like?
They
are
not
active
contributors,
but
in
my
mind
they
should
be
like
community.
They
should
be
having
a
role
of
community
because
they
are
here,
so
they
should
feel
that
they
are
part
of
like
cat
herders
and
we
can
assign
them
as
the
role
of
community.
D
I
think
asylum
to
the
role
of
community
is
a
good
first
step,
but
that
we
should
aim
to
have
them
be
members.
If
they
want
to
be
members,
I
think
that's
what
we
should
be
pushing
for
and
giving
them
many
opportunities
to
become
members
over
the
next.
How
whatever
the
time
period
is
like.
I
was
suggesting
three
months,
but
whatever
that
time
period
is.
C
Yeah,
I
I
definitely
agree
with
the
idea
of
trying
to
find
rules
for
them,
but
I'm
wondering
I
mean
if
we're
using
contributor,
as
sort
of
like
provisionary
probationary.
There's
a
that's
the
word.
I
wanted
probationary
role
for
like
people
who
we've
we're
just
starting
to
get
familiar
with,
but
already
have
things
they
need
to
do
so.
Maybe
this
should
even
be
a
third
like
a
new
kind
of
role.
C
C
D
C
D
A
So
now
we
have
agreed
upon.
One
is
member,
like
all
I
mean
going
by
the
definition
of
three
months,
let's
consider
three
months
time
period,
so
everyone
from
this
meeting
or
from
the
internal
chat
group
are
members
now
and
the
second
category.
We
are
having
associate
cat
hooders.
That
will
add
all
these
people
who
responded
to
onboard
for
onboarding
form
as
well
as
our
community
associate
like
fellowship
of
ethereum
magician,
or
maybe
somebody
comes
up
from
ea
or
something
so
we'll
be
there
and.
C
Wait
a
second,
I'm
not
sure
I
understood
community,
I
think,
is
great
for
the
partners
like
magicians
or
whatever.
The
case
is,
if
it's
someone
who
consistently
interacts
with
us
as
a
cat
herder.
Also
I'm
fine
with
that,
but
I
think
maybe
community
is
one
role
and
then
the
sort
of
associate
thing
is
a
separate
role.
No
or
are
we
putting
those
in
one
category
could
be.
A
A
All
right,
I
mean
like
it's
a
consensus
based
thing,
so
whatever
group
decide
is
fine,
so,
okay,
fine
for
time
being,
let's
have
only
two
categories,
one
as
members
and
the
others
as
associate
cat
hurdles,
and
that
will
include
the
contributor
in
training
as
well
as
community
members
I
mean
community
associates
and
the
people
who
would
be
like
keep
on
contributing
will
be
upgraded
to
manbus
after
a
certain
period
of
time.
Does
that
sound,
reasonable.
A
C
A
C
D
A
C
And
if
I
can
just
make
one
tangential
point
at
the
end,
if
nobody
else
is
anything
on
topic,
just
taking
a
look
at
the
responses
from
the
cat,
herders
onboarding
form
there's
some
people.
We
should
really
get
in
touch
with
and
find
something
find
something
for
here
like
griffin's,
the
guy
who
writes
the
the
stateless
ethereum
summaries
for
the
foundation.
Like
you
know,
there's
there's
some
good
contacts
here.
A
Yeah,
actually
I
got
in
touch
with
him,
so
I
mean
like
we
were
talking
on
1559
meeting
notes,
so
he
reached
out
to
me
and
we
started
talking.
Then
I
invited
him
to
join
this
cat
had
this
forum
and
then
we
discussed
more
about
you
know
what
we
do
here
and
he
was
trying
to
understand
how
cat
hairdos
are
helping.
So
he
is
here.
I
guess
I'm
in
touch
with
him,
but
if
we
have
anything
specific
I
mean
I
I
generally
and
I
generally
post
everything
on
the
discord.
A
A
C
Actually,
I
might
just
surf
this
over
to
hudson
the
one
thing
I'll
say:
yeah,
but
like
just
one
thing
before
you
get
started,
is
we
have
a
couple
of
documents
that
are
sort
of
our
draft
proposals
as
they
were
for
protocols
communications?
We
finalized
them
as
of
this
week
and
hudson's
gonna.
Take
it
from
there.
D
I
think,
if
I
don't
hear
back
from
her
before
then,
and
then
I
think
I'll
know,
if
we're
going
forward
with
the
description
williams
said
or
not,
and
then
I
can
use
that
description
to
socialize
it
better.
Only
because
I
know
the
question
that's
going
to
come
up
when
I,
when
I
share
these
documents,
is
what's
the
purpose
or
what
what
do
you
want
me
to
do?
D
What's
what's
next
steps,
and
I
want
to
be
ready
for
that
question,
so
I
didn't
want
to
go
to
people
who
are
very
integrally
and
and
to
like
integrated
very
closely
with
the
process
without
having
some
of
those
questions
answered.
So,
in
short,
I
still
need
to
socialize
it
after
getting
a
summary
of
the
meaning
behind
the
documents
a
little
bit
better.
A
Okay,
any
more
comment
on
this
I
mean
I
I
have
seen
those
documents
haven't
added
much
to
it,
but
that
looks
good
to
me
in
all
senses,
so
that
was
the
next
step
so
yeah.
So
we
can.
We
can
hear
more
on
that,
maybe
in
the
next
meeting
or
what
are
the
responses
when
they
start
when
you
start
socializing
that
those
documents.
A
A
Yeah
we
have
been
talking
about
it
in
a
netely,
graham
group
that
we
have
for
pete.
His
distinctive
skills
of
engagement
with
authors
are
remarkable.
In
fact,
one
of
the
ap
authors
specifically
asked
me
to
invite
william
for
his
next
appearance
in
penny
to
discuss
another
proposal,
so
it's
a
great
engagement
from
his
side
also
elita.
She
is
also
continuously
supporting
with
this
recording.
A
So
the
goal
here
is
to
collect
feedback
from
the
eip.
Authors
about
the
process
know
more
about
that
proposal.
If
that
is
in
draft,
then
that
needs
to
move
on
to
next
day.
We
we
try
to
understand
what
are
the
challenges
there
and
if
there
is
any
area
of
you
know,
a
area
that
could
be
discussed
for
process
improvement,
we
try
to
figure
it
out
and
then
my
idea
is
to
go
ahead
and
add
it
to
the
agenda
item
in
the
eipip
meeting.
A
So
generally,
in
the
all
coder
meeting
and
eipip
meeting,
we
discussed
about
core
eips
only,
but
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
work
to
be
done
in
defining
the
process
for
non-core
eips
as
well.
My
thought
is
that
this
peep
and
eat
series
are
going
to
be
very
helpful
because
we
are
interacting
with
a
lot
of
eerc
20
and
other
proposals
which
are
actually
not
cool.
A
So
tomorrow
is
also
a
recording
for
one
one
of
the
proposal,
which
is
eip2535
diamond
standard.
It's
basically
a
dece.
It's
a
proposal
for
decentralized
on-chain
governance
like
has
been
implemented
in
some
of
the
d5
projects,
so
I
I
hope
it's
going
to
be
interesting
for
people
to
watch
the
recording
of
it
and
if
anybody
from
the
group
is
interested
to
participate
in
the
discussion
feel
free
to
ping
me
william
and.
A
The
next
item
is
cathode
is
funding
a
moloch,
tau
and
esp.
So
in
the
previous
meeting,
I
said
that
I
would
be
submitting
a
document
for
that.
Would
that
would
be
for
the
submission
of
next
grant
request
from
molok.
I
have
shared
it
with
tim
and
hudson,
I'm
not
sure
if
they
got
chance,
I
think
tim
had
some
feedback
on.
It
generally
sounds
good.
A
I
know
worries
so
the
thing
is
like
the
molotow
grant
that
we
received
was
was
in.
There
was
in
the
end
of
june
and
by
end
of
three
months
they
had
requested
to
provide
an
update
so
that
that
document
contains
what
we
have
done
in
this
period.
That's
number
one
and
the
funding
was
for
three
months
only
so
that
is
for
the
request
for
funding
for
another
six
months.
So
I
was
thinking
if
we
can
come
up
on
like
when
we
can
submit
the
proposal.
A
A
D
Yeah
we
can
submit
it
next
week.
Even
I
do
need
to
start
to
talk
to
the
molok
dao
people
before
I
actually
submit
the
proposal,
and
then
we
need
to
go
through
the
process
of
sitting
in
that
form.
So,
even
though
it's
created
I'll
kind
of
let
them
be
the
judge
of
when's
the
best
time
to
submit
it
like
officially
on
chain,
but
we
can
start
the
process
next
week,
even
of
submitting
the
stack
form
or
whatever
they
use.
A
B
D
A
A
Right,
but
I
have
a
comment
there
like
personally.
I
think
that
it
would
be
better
to
create
one
issue
for
notes
like
that,
would
help
us
to
keep
track
of.
I
mean
like.
Definitely,
it
is
going
to
be
added
in
the
multi-sig
transaction
sheet,
where
we
try
to
bundle
them,
but
it
is.
It
is
a
good
practice
to
create
one
issue
per
nodes.
That's
number
one
and
number
two.
A
If
we
are
requesting
fund
to
be
paid
in
earth,
then
we
might
want
to
add
the
screenshot
of
at
the
rate,
and
you
know
daytime
whatever
was
there.
I
have
seen
william,
who
was
the
first
person
to
request
for
the
request
for
the
fund
to
be
funded
in
it.
He
does
it
in
a
very
appropriate
way,
and
I
would
highly
recommend
other
note
takers
if
they
are
interested
to
get
the
funding
to
be
paid
in
it.
A
D
C
A
So
the
last
item
in
the
agenda
today
is
meeting
41
41
notes.
The
decision
mates
will
don't
submit
request
for
funding
right
now
because
of
cash
price.
We
just
discussed
about
the
molecular
tao
submission
drop,
the
idea
of
hackathon,
that's
fine,
zoom
cloud
recording.
I
did
not
get
a
chance
to
look
into
that
and
have
not
deleted
any
of
the
recording
so
far
I'll
try
to
do
it-
some
at
least
some
of
them
before
the
next
meeting.
So
I'll.
A
Take
it
on
my
to-do
list,
the
action
items
where
hudson
to
create
a
break
off
room
channel
for
all
code
app.
That's
done.
I
tend
to
create
a
greater
getter
bridge
for
prague
this
week
or
next.
We
will
continue
it.
As
an
action
item
move
discussion
about
the
group,
titles
and
rules
to
the
ech
member
discord.
We
had
a
lot
of
discussion
today.
Hopefully
we
will
come
up
with
the
like.
You
know,
resolution
we'll
revisit
after
a
few
meetings,
whatever
we
have
decided
on
it
today,.
A
And
yeah,
that's
the
end
of
the
meeting.
There
was
one
more
yeah
sorry,
so
there
was
one
more
comment
from
william:
it's
it's
about.
The
do
exits
propose.
Change
to
the
eip
process
needs
to
be
discussed
here,
or
should
the
conversation
be
kept
to
eip
ib,
I
mean
I'm
okay.
Either
way
we
still
have
time,
but
if
people
think
that
it
has
to
be
done
in
the
apip
good
with
that.
C
D
D
E
A
So
what
the
decisions
that
were
made
in
the
last
eipap
meeting,
one
of
those
were
like
to
submit
a
full
request
with
the
new
statuses
for
eip
process
and
exec
has
a
pull
request
open
and
the
conversation
is
around
withdrawn
and
abundant
status.
So
if,
in
the
meantime,
people
would
like
to
give
it
a
look,
that's
there
in
the
eip
channel
of
rnd
rnd
discord
so
yeah
that
that
is
there
and
yeah
that
could
be
discussed
as
well.