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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #41 [2020/09/01]
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Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/135
A
B
Yeah
I
can
provide
update
on
that.
There
was
a
meeting
on
august
28
for
the
implementers
of
1559
and
the
highlights
of
the
meeting
are
vulcanized
and
basu
team
are
working
on
the
implementation
of
1559
and
they
are
aligned
with
the
latest.
Spec
vulcanize
is
taking
care
for
the
get
team
and
they
have
they
are
being
funded
by
the
community
fund
that
has
been
received
by
the
bitcoin
brand.
B
These
teams
are
running
a
test
net
with
three
geth
and
three
baso
nodes.
Netherland
is
also
planning
to
join
the
test
net,
connecting
with
the
basu
and
get
chestnut
for
eip
1559
in
next
two
to
three
weeks,
based
on
suggestions
and
discussion.
Some
of
the
action
items
for
future
for
the
teams
are
change
the
spec
and
implementation
to
have
a
minimum
increment
or
decrement
of
one.
B
B
B
I
would
like
to
hear
more
thought
on
that.
What
people
think
how
we
can
help,
but
in
the
meanwhile
I
and
team
were
discussing
and
we
are
trying
to
come
up
with
a
questionnaire
kind
of
thing,
that
we
can
collect
answers
from
community
and
that
we
would
provide
the
1559
implementers
team,
and
hopefully
that
would
be
helpful.
B
B
A
A
C
So
I
was
thinking
all
meetings,
but
yeah
I
mean
for
the
all-core
devs
like
that
could
be
the
focus,
but
I
I'm
I'm
mainly
talking
about
like
if
there's
this
a
discussion
ever
where
people
want
to
continue
like
you.
Look
like
the
appearance
will
facilitate
that
discussion,
because
we
do
multiple
groups.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
good
idea
and
that
actually
would
work
really
well
for
the
the
core
developer.
Calls
would
be
a
good
guinea
pig
for
that
because
they
would
be.
We
just
moved
from
the
getter.
The
single
getter
channel
for
the
core
developer
call
chat
room
to
the
eth
r
d
discord
and
there's
an
all
core
devs
channel
in
there,
but
there's
also
a
category
in
the
discord
called
eth
1.0
and
you
can
add
channels
under
there
and
there's
only
the
eips
channel
right
now.
A
But
let's
say
someone
wanted
to
talk
about
the
bls
signature
stuff
in
eip384
or
the
the
384
initiative
that
alex
barry
zazie's
doing
evm384
emv
384.
Thank
you
yes,
evm
384.
Then
there
can
be
a
whole
channel
discussion
for
that
and
the
cat
herders
could
corral
people
to
move
into
that
channel.
Is
that?
Do
I
understand
that
correctly.
D
D
C
Yep
that
that
that
that's
exactly
I'm
talking
about
yeah
or-
although
I
guess
for
because
like
in
the
discord
that
that
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
and
then
in
general,
you
could
also
just
have
you
know.
I
think
I
think
the
ideal
situation
would
be
that
it's
not
very,
like
particular
in
the
sense
that
you
know
the
the
whole
point
is
that
it's
very
easy,
so
you
know
like
it
would
take
like
five
minutes
set
up
so
for
a
discord
for
the
all-core
devs.
C
D
Interesting
just
a
logistic
question:
if
it's
something
like
core
devs,
so
let's
say
there's
something
that
needs
to
break
our
breakout
room
discussion.
Most
people
who
would
be
involved
in
the
discussion
probably
do
want
to
catch
the
rest
of
the
call
to
them.
So
then,
how
do
you
work?
The
coordination
for
when
the
breakout
room
would
happen.
C
Oh
so
that
would
also
like
that's
kind
of
I
guess
the
fundamental
idea
of
this,
and
that's
that
like
if
you
want
to
do
a
breakout
room
like
if
you're
like
okay,
let's
continue
this
discussion
during
the
like
main
discussion,
then
you
can
just
sort
of
make
a
note
of
that
and
then
it
really
would
just
be
like
okay.
Well,
why
don't
we
just
do
this
like
friday
or
saturday?
You
know
basically
very
not
very
like
exact
about
when
it
happens,
so
flexibility
is
key.
I
think.
C
I
think
that's
definitely
an
option.
I
think
it
also
really
will
depend
on
the
circumstances,
but
I
would
imagine
yes
or
it
could
even
just
be.
You
know,
you're
in
a
call
and
you're
like
okay,
hey
after
this
call
I'll
be
in
the
breakout
room
because
I'll
you
know
say,
for
example,
I'm
the
moderator
so
just
join
afterwards
and
we'll
continue
this
discussion
or
we
can
break
out
now.
D
A
D
A
A
How's
that
sound
alita,
that
sounds
great
okay.
I
can
let
me
put
on
my
list
to
make
that
today.
So
this
would
be
it's
calling
it
breakout
right,
make
breakout
voice
and
chat,
channel
ethernet
discord.
I
will
post
in
the
cat
herders
discord
whenever
this
is
done.
I
need
to
get
used
to
us
having
one
of
those,
because
I
keep
forgetting
we
have
one.
That's
my
bad
yeah
but
great
stuff
us
having
a
discord.
Anybody
else
have
comments
on
this.
A
B
Yeah
about
that,
we
have
been
like
trying
to
communicate
both
on
not
both
actually
on
multiple
discard
telegram
and
getter.
So
I
was
wondering
like
we
should
set
up
a
deadline
for
that
like
we
would
not
be
like.
We
would
be
considering
only
discard
for
for
the
communication
in
future,
and
there
was
some
discussion
in
previous
and
I
think
one
or
two
meetings
back
about
the
channels
and
roles.
C
D
B
Right
as
of
now,
we
do
not
have
any
kind
of
bridge
anywhere
it
jailed
that
telegram
and
gator
are
somehow
connected
with
one
bridge,
but
none
is
connected
to
the
discard
that
we
have
for
cat
hurdles.
So
there
are
few
things
a
number
one
coming
up
for
the
general
migration
from
getter
to
discord
like
as
of
today.
D
And
one
thing
I
definitely
would
say
is
that
I
think
I
mean
I
I
thought
about
doing
this
and
then
sort
of
forgot
about
it,
but
I
think
we
probably
have
to
be
a
little
more
a
little
bit
more
obnoxious.
If
anybody
will
forgive
me
for
saying
that,
on
the
getter
about
moving
over
to
the
discord
like,
I
don't
feel
like
we
and
I'm,
including
myself,
and
this
have
really
pushed
conversation
from
get
her
onto
the
discord.
D
Anybody
should
actually
say
that,
but
at
least
the
conversation
should
be
strongly
encouraged
more
often
to
be
moved
towards
discord,
I
think,
would
make
a
big
difference.
Has
anyone
even
written
on
the
prague,
like
the
in
the
channel
that
we'd
like
to
move
the
conversation
to
discord
at
this
point?
Like
is
that
channel,
which
is
oftentimes
populated
by
like
non-cat
herders?
Are
they
even
aware
that
there's
a
discord
that
we're
migrating
to.
B
A
I
think
that
we
should
be
careful
to
not
so
there's
a
couple
things
with
the
prog
pad
channel
is
the
outlier
and
I
don't
think
we're
gonna.
I
think
the
people
who
like
to
write
deep,
like
protocol
and
minor
level
like
code
for
minors
and
stuff,
like
that,
I
don't
know
if
they're
on
discord
a
lot
of
the
people
who
are
active
in
there.
I
think
greg's
actually
on
discord
but
other
than
him.
I
didn't
know
and
christy.
A
I
don't
know
about
the
others
who
really
frequent
that
channel
like
grier,
so
maybe
having
a
bridge
for
like
three
months
would
be
okay,
while
the
conversation
dies
down
because
net
starting
this
core
dev
meeting.
There
should
be
a
a
resolution
on
if
there's
going
to
be
a
test
net
developed
for
progpow
and
when
that
happens
and
yeah
that
that
should
help
things
with
calming
down
the
channel.
If
there
is
any
activity
at
all.
A
A
B
Right,
we
already
have
created
a
channel,
but
that
hasn't
been
made
public
yet
so
I
think
we
should
think
about
it
a
little
bit
more
and
if
we
consider
keeping
it
on
telegram
separately,
it's
fine
and
if
you
want
to
move
it
here,
maybe
consider
bridging
it
or
asking
people
there.
So
yeah
sounds
good.
D
I
I
ran
through
the
prague
getter
right
now.
It
doesn't
look
like
anybody's
ever
said
anything
about
the
discord
there,
but
I
could
have
missed
it.
It's
not
like.
I
was
actually
reading
through
everything,
so
I
mean
definitely
I'd
say
the
conversation
should
at
least
be
started
over
there,
also
to
inform
them
about
the
discord
about
the
move,
to
emphasize
that
we
are
creating
a
bridge,
but
that
we
would
prefer
as
much
as
possible
that
people
move
over
to
the
discord
and
that
the
bridge
will
be
terminated
at
some
point.
A
B
One
last
thing
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
check
with
people
here
like
on
topic
of
roles
and
channels.
Are
they
fine
with
whatever
they
can
see
right
now?
I
think
most
most
of
the
people
have
been
upgraded
to
members,
but
I
think
one
or
two
are
there
as
contributor,
but
there
were
some
issues
identified
in
the
previous
meeting
that
even
if
people
are
having
a
you
know,
contributor
access,
they
are
not
able
to
see
the
history
of
the
meeting.
Is
it
resolved
or
where
are
we
on
that.
B
G
D
A
D
B
In
in
beginning,
when
I
actually
had
this
idea,
my
my
thought
were
like
people
who
we
should
be
considering
in
member
like
they
should
either
have
the
heard
token
that
were
initiated
that
were
distributed
in
the
beginning
of
this
group,
or
they
have
contribution
for
over
a
year.
So
if,
if
they
are
satisfying
either
of
these
criteria,
they
can
be
a
part
of
member
and
rest
of
the
people
who
are
contributing
in
some
or
the
other
aspect
can
be
contributed.
Till
their
contribution
is
either
very
large
or
maybe
over
the
year.
D
Right
I
mean
the
question
is
also
how
I
mean
I
think
right
now,
puja,
I
think
you're,
the
only
one
who
can
set
permissions
for
members
and
potentially
I'll
put
it
this
way,
the
more
reuters
the
rule,
probably
the
more
work
you're
making
for
yourself.
I
made
the
point
before
with
the
meeting
notes
channel
like
if
you're
putting
in
a
requirement
for
a
year,
but
then
you
want
someone
to
be
involved
in
men
taking
notes
so
then
they
won't
be
able
to
join
the
channel.
D
A
I
think
that
people
having
titles
make
them
feel
cool.
I
like
it
when
I
have
titles,
so
I
don't
know
we
should
have
a
high
barrier
of
entry
for
people
to
become
a
member
of
the
cat
herders
rather
than
just
a
contributor,
but
we
do
need
to
kind
of
figure
out
a
definition
but
not
make
it
too
complicated.
A
A
Year,
nine
months,
oh
my
gosh,
it's
september
this
year
has
taken
forever:
okay,
anyways
yeah
a
year
and
nine
months,
but
yeah
a
year
feels
long
to
me,
but
I
might
not
be.
I
guess
we
should
maybe
have
a
whole
nother
discussion
topic
next
meeting
or
in
discord
about
this
within
a
member
chat.
Yeah.
Let's
take
this
to
discord.
That
sounds
like
a
good
idea.
Sounds.
A
D
I
think
that's
really
the
last
hurdle
until
we've
sort
of
finalized
the
two
documents,
and
after
that
I
think
it's
really
about.
I
mean
we,
you-
and
I
have
talked
about
this
hudson
after
that.
It's
really
just
about
starting
to
go
around
and
actually
like
assembling
support
and
ether,
and
youth
too.
D
D
Yeah,
I
think
jay
also,
I
think
a
lot
of
it
was
about
cleaning
up
other
comments
like
a
ton
of
my
comments,
so
I
think
it's
just
pretty
much,
also
more
or
less
finalizing.
I
don't
know
if
she's
totally
finalized
on
it,
but
I
would
say
like
in
terms
of
our
action
items,
for
that
it
would
be
making
sure
that
jay's
finalized
with
her
document
and
then
boy
just
like
assembling
the
next
steps.
A
A
B
Yeah,
I
think
a
community
is
receiving
it
as
like
a
good
source
of
information
for
ethereum
improvement
proposals
like
earlier.
There
was
this
question
like
when,
whenever
people
want
to
learn
about
anything,
they
have
to
either
get
type
deep
dive
inside
the
github
repo
to
find
out
that
proposal
or
go
to
eips.ethelium.org,
and
it
was
very
difficult
to
find
it
in
google,
but
by
using
the
channel
of
youtube
whenever
we
are
posting
a
video
of
any
of
the
proposals
that
we
had
discussion
with
this
author.
B
It
is
very
easy
to
find
that's
one
of
the
advantages
that
I'm
seeing
with
this
going
by
the
youtube.
The
other
thing
is
like
the
presenters.
The
authors
are
have
been
really
nice
to
share
it
in
a
in
a
very
easy
to
understand
way,
added
with
the
questions
by
william
james
and
greg
and
other
people
who
are
trying
to
add
more
value
by
understanding.
Those
proposals
by
putting
simple
questions
that
we
are
collecting
from
community
is
helping
us
a
lot.
B
So
far
we
have
recorded
four
episodes.
There
is
a
link
in
the
agenda
which
takes
us
to
a
project
board
which
is
basically
a
tracker
for
what
eip
we
are
discussing
and
the
link
of
whatever
we
have
already
recorded.
So
I
think
it's
going
pretty
good.
Today
we
have
a
meeting
with
alex
blassoff
on
the
topic
of
eip
2
triple
six.
B
So
a
major
respondents
of
the
survey
were
like
mining
pool,
exchanges,
wallet,
tax
and
infrastructure,
provided
this
report
does
not
include
like
individuals
answer
an
individual
or
hobbyist,
and
talking
about
the
next
step,
I
think
the
categories
can
be
working
with
the
operators
running
parity
parity
nodes.
I
mean
I,
we
see
that
there
are
still
operators
who
are
running
parity
node,
so
we
can
be
talking
to
those
operators
and
help
them
migrate
to
open
ethereum
or
any
other
client
of
their
choice.
B
Now
that
we
have
the
database
of
who
all
are
running
those,
you
know
older
nodes
that
that
are
not
supported
anymore.
We
can
reach
out
to
them,
and
I
was
informed
of
that
open
ethereum
is
coming
up
with
a
very
stable
release
and
next
month.
Sorry
now
this
is
september
so
yeah
this
month.
Possibly
so
I
think
that
could
be
a
good
start
when
we
can
start
making
reach
to
these
node
operators.
A
B
Yeah
not
too
much
to
add
here,
but
we
reached
out
to
moloka,
I
think
in
the
month
of
may
or
june,
and
I
think
by
june,
and
we
received
the
funding
and
we
were
supposed
to
report
back
to
malak
after
three
months
now
that
this
is
september.
It's
almost
the
end
of
the
like
three
months
going
to
be
by
the
end
of
the
september.
So
I
was
thinking
of
you
know
kind
of
sharing
some
report
with
them
and
also
I
wanted
to
check
on
like.
B
A
I
see
what
you're
saying.
Okay,
sorry,
sorry
I
I
know
you
didn't
meant
this
second,
but
it
still
is
funny
to
me
to
think
of
anybody
doing
anything
on
the
network
right
now,
but
yeah.
Let's
think
about
that,
going
ahead
with
malik
again,
I
think
we
should
do
the
report
first
and
get
feedback
before
we
make
a
decision
for
sure.
B
All
right,
I'm
planning
to
publish,
I
mean,
share
it
among
them
like
by
15th,
because
by
30th
september,
that
would
be
the
end
of
the
three
months.
So
I
just
want
to
be
on
time
with
them,
so
that
I
mean
somebody
also
reached
out
to
me
to
ask
how
we
are
doing,
but
that
was
I'm
not
sure
that
was
a
formal
ask.
So
I'm
willing
to
come
up
with
the
report.
Okay,.
A
A
I'm
gonna
try
to
talk
to
someone
from
gnosis
about
that,
but
otherwise
all
the
usdc
has
been,
or
basically
the
money
from
malik
and
the
psy
has
been
converted
from
die
to
usdc
and
the
molech
down
money
has
been
converted
to.
Besides
that
one
transaction
on
the
old
multisig.
That's
keeping
this
issue
open,
so
it
can
be
stay
open
for
now
update,
forkmon
and
properly
and
publish
code
properly.
I
don't
have
anything
on
that
and
james
isn't
here,
so
we
can
skip
that.
One.
B
A
Great
all
right
add
an
option
to
ethernodes
that
accounts
for
in
process.
Okay,
this
one's
going
to
happen
when
berlin
happens,
apparently
according
to
james.
So
this
will
stay
open,
add
an
option
to
ethernets
that
accounts.
For
and
oh
I
just
did
that.
One
update
necessary
documentation
for
the
basu
hotfix.
A
That
is
that
one
was
opened
by
james
and
it
says
something
should
be
updated
in
the
yellow
paper
somewhere.
We've
talked
about,
including
the
yellow
paper,
as
one
of
the
responsibilities
of
like
james
is
to
like
not
his
responsibility
but
like
within
this
repo
that
we're
starting
for
protocol
specifications
for
eth
1.0,
and
so
I
think
that
he
might
be
looking
at
that
one.
But
we
don't
have
anything
for
updates
on
this
issue
right
now
and
then
staking
in
dx
dow.
A
A
E
B
A
B
Yeah,
I
mean
two
things
here:
one
is
like.
Instead
of
giving
single
single,
you
know,
we
would
want
to
pull
them
together,
three
or
four
people.
Just
for
example,
we
can
see
that
for
edson
they
have,
he
has
done
it
for
eipip
ecch.
We
can
bunch
them
together
and
give
one.
That
is
one
thing
I
was
mentioning
another
thing
I
was
saying
that
like.
If,
because
it
requires
two
to
three
approver
every
time,
it
is
like
two
to
five
dollar
per
approval,
maybe
kind
of
creating
a
pool.
D
Go
ahead.
Well,
if
I
could
maybe
just
slide
one
thing
in
there,
a
potential
solution
might
also
be.
If
note
note-takers
wanted
some
important
of
the
gas.
Don't
throw
things
at
me
as
in
like
let's
say
that
the
gas
is
going
to
be
six
dollars
to
send
a
transaction
or
something
like
that.
I
don't
think
it's
quite
that
high
for
a
straight
youth
transfer,
but
I
could
be
wrong,
maybe
prove
proposing
some
kind
of
split.
Like
I
mean
I
myself.
F
B
I'm
not
sure
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
a
little
difficult
in
the
sense,
because
when
we
in
when
we
initiate
the
transaction,
for
example,
whatever
we
come
up
with
like
100
100
values
in
it,
we
mentioned
that
and
it
is
approved
by
a
different
approver
at
different
time,
and
every
approver
has
to
pay
some
gas
fee.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
we
can
handle
like
you,
subtracting
your
gas.
A
G
A
A
A
Yeah
layer,
two
technologies
like
omg
and
dx
dx
die
chain
or
whatever
and
zk
sync
are
gonna,
that'll,
be
fun
so
yeah.
Let's
not
do
any
of
the
funding
ones
this
time
and
if
that's
the
case,
then
we're
on
to
the
next
part,
which
is
the
outstanding
action
items
from
the
previous
meeting
meeting
number
40..
A
A
B
C
A
B
There
is
one
thing
I
would
like
to
bring
it
again.
It
was
discussed
in
the
previous
meeting.
I
mentioned
that
recently
I
received
access
of
one
of
our
google
email,
a
gmail
that
we
had
in
early
days
going
by
the
emails.
I
get
to
know
that
the
zoom
cloud
is
like
full,
so
we
were
considering
deleting
older
meeting
notes
just
wanted
to
make
sure
if
nobody
has
any
objection
in
that.