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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #38 [2020/07/21]

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Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/129

A

Welcome everyone. Thank you for joining us today. This is the ethereum cat herders meeting 38.. I have shared the agenda in the chat.

A

So, uh let's start with agenda item number one: it's email account for cat herders.

A

Brent, you would yeah.

B

Go ahead, or did you want me to take it or.

A

Yeah, please go ahead with updates yeah.

B

Yeah I've got that uh charles. We got that linked up uh it. It turns out there we're not using godaddy for our registrar, but charles was able to get it set up and we got the mx record set up and verified the account with zoho and- and I sent the first email this morning with to puja from member ethercathers.com so and um some so we've got member at ethercathers.com and in in three other possible accounts.

B

We could create our admin support and help at ethereumcathers.com, and I wondered should we create any all of those any other any more than those. What just wondered what the thoughts were.

C

I mean what would be the rationale behind each one of those I suppose like do we need? What do we need? An admin address for.

B

um Typically, most websites, uh I think a lot of people assume that if there's a problem with that website, they can set it send an email to admin at whatever. That website is I've. I've done that before, and I think most websites have an admin and help and support would be basically if anyone wanted some ether, help or ether support, I would hope they would could possibly think and and also on the website.

B

We could put one of those I think, on the footer of all of the pages of our site, of the ethereum cat herder's website say for support contact or for help contact help at ethereumcathers.com, and then we could have um at least one maybe two people listening to each have those forwarded to two people, so they can respond to any emails that are received on those. That's just my thought, but.

C

Help or contact make the most sense to me. I don't really see a point in having both a help and an info, especially if we write on the site what the preferred preferred address is, but.

B

Okay, that's a good idea. Yeah yeah! That sounds good, so uh would contact be better. I.

C

See I see both health and contact, I mean it's really just a matter of whatever whatever we'd want. I think.

D

Yeah or uh support maybe.

B

Yeah yeah supports on the list that I have so I have four now with contact. I have admin, support, help and contact. So if we have um contacts or would we need, I I don't know if we would need both help and support.

D

True yeah, we probably wouldn't uh one thing to consider- is for admin. um We could use it. We could replace some of the accounts. We have like social media like the linkedin twitter, with the actual character's email, I think um for twitter. At least you need your website. You link to be the same as domain as the email. You have to be verified eventually,.

B

Oh okay, so who has the twitter or do we have a twitter account even.

A

We do have the twitter account, but I'm not sure if it is linked with lane or charles, because, as far as I can see, uh the medium account is with name, and I know that medium and twitter are somehow linked. So I have to go deep down into it, but I'm sure that is not with, or maybe with the aetherium at the gmail account we had. I'm not sure I do not have full access. I just have to tweet text so I'll check into it.

B

Okay, cool, okay. So then um so so it sounds like we're. Then there's three additional there's admin, support and contact, and so I guess that's the proposal that I will create those three additional email accounts and um and and then uh puja is going to look into putting member at um ethereumcathers.com as the contact or or as the.

C

B

By the different.

C

Platforms, yeah.

B

Yeah yeah, including twitter and yeah other possible platforms, so.

A

Do we need, like uh so many emails at this point of time? I mean that is my question, like you know like we have to log into every account to look if we received any email or not.

B

That's true yeah, so maybe we should just keep member.

A

Remember or whatever, if we don't want to go, I mean we are not uh going ahead with number. We can come up with support or I I think support is sounding like good for all of those like, even if it is for admin, support, network support or community support, or even people who want to contact they can support. So I find support more, you know easy going. Would you.

B

Yeah yeah, that sounds great, so should we just have support um for um for everything then and just list that on our website and use that and or I guess we have- we have member now so we could have both member and support.

A

Yeah, but we may not be using it widely, like everywhere, we would be coming up with one email, because so many emails may create conclusion. Although I understand, if we have utility, we always have an option to come up with differently.

B

Yep would anyone object to, since I think we have at least eight emails to me. Creating a personal brand dot also bet cat herders. I wouldn't mind having one of those.

B

If, if and I could always remove that if we ran out of emails or something like that, it would just it would be kind of fun to have account.

C

Double check now I would say double check if you're able to remove. I know on one of the services I use that give me multiple email addresses they they're it's. You can't remove one one once you've.

B

Oh okay, yeah! If, if that's the case, then I'll ch I'll double check that and so.

C

That being said, I still have no objection and especially because you're in touch a lot with the eip over the eips, and things like that. I could really see value in you having yeah.

B

That would be fun to be able to contact people trying to clean up eips and using that email address so yeah. So I personally.

C

Have no objection.

B

A

How about like, uh like we have created member and now that we are thinking of coming up with support, so uh try to come up with support, and you know remove member if that works. That means it is. The option is flexible and we can go ahead and remove and create new one at any point of time and yeah.

B

Yep that that's kind of what I was thinking of doing the way.

B

Excuse me that I could verify that but yeah, okay, that yeah I'll do that I'll, create a support and make sure I can remove member, and if I can then I'll move forward with creating my own. Otherwise I'll just work with support and- and I can always send email from support to manage the uh the eips and stuff like that. So.

A

B

Okay, yeah, that's all I had for that, then so so so, just to summary, for the notetaker um that we currently have member at ethereumcatheters.com working and I'm going to set up a support at ethereumcatheters.com and verify that that works. And then I'm going to delete member at ethereumcathers.com to verify that functionality and if that functionality works, then I'll keep create a brent.allsop at ethereumcathers.com and also puja is going to verify the other social media accounts and link up and use and set support at ethereum catenators.com. As the email address. Did they get everything right.

A

Yeah so good, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

A

So, moving on the next item on the agenda is emergency communication group.

C

Should I take this.

A

C

Okay, fine, um so hoof. I think it was maybe a meeting or two ago um you puja, brought up that there had been some initiative that was starting about maybe creating an emergency communications group so that in the event of an emergency, there would be a group that had clear guidelines about making communications happen and work out for things.

C

um Puja has assembled a little bit of a team that we haven't really managed to get together yet also, this initiative originally came from the eipip uh initiative, but in the last eipip meeting they sort of signed off on it. So right now it looks like that. The like you know, trying to form the idea and seeing where we go with. It is really a cat herders sort of thing, um since I've been working pretty much alone on this.

C

For now, all I've done right now is uh come up with a start really drafting um like a protocol, for that would first define what an emergency is and then also try to define what would happen during an emergency and what preparations should be made and what provisions should be made in a non-emergency setting.

C

I'm really interested in feedback, because I literally just made it up. Oh I'm so I mean yeah. um Any kind of intelligent feedback would be greatly greatly appreciated. um I there is someone from quan stamp the security auditing service who's supposed to be on the team. Also. She was originally, I think, even supposed to be by the meeting, but she doesn't seem to have made it. um Definitely.

C

My personal hope would be that we would get like good actionable advice from people who have familiarity with security and thing, and just you know trying to to create a protocol like this. um That being said, it does seem to be like it could be another another project under the aegis of the cat herders. So anyone who is interested in being a part of an emergency comms team- I'm not quite at the point where I could like start to throw up a spreadsheet or anything like that.

C

But it is something to maybe bear in mind and think about.

D

Yeah, I think it was. It was her name jay. It was her idea. um She said um she could possibly help with that. I don't know if she just constantly do or if you contacted her.

C

um I think it was originally her idea. Puja made a telegram group, or actually here I mean yeah.

A

Yeah, actually, we have created a small group of it, a few people in that and she is also one of the members. So we were, we are hoping to get a you know a meeting, maybe in next week coming week, like a small discussion based on this uh document that william has created. It looks good to me to start with, and we also have a small list of um people, but jay had some suggestions which sounded really good about how we should manage those kind of spreadsheet of addresses.

A

uh So, like I mean for now, we just have started taking it off, and maybe we may have more updates to come up in the next meeting but feel free to add more to the documents I mean. I find this document really cool to start with, but yeah.

A

Thanks, okay, so.

A

Yeah, please brent, go ahead.

B

Oh sorry, just bump the mic.

A

Okay, I know it is so yeah I mean like if people have a question comments and suggestions feel free to let uh let william me or any uh jay or anybody else know about it and if they are interested to be a part of it, that would be really great, and since we are discussing this, I have another thing in mind like uh this is going to be an emergency communication group.

A

um What do people think about having a separate email address for this particular activity, because this is I mean this can be handled with support as well, but since it is like highly sensitive, do we have to have something separate or what do people think here.

C

I think it's very likely, but I don't think we should do anything until there's. Actually a group.

A

B

Yeah, that sounds good and we can start with support and if we see need for something else, but yeah.

C

I mean one of the things I did write in the document is the establishment of red line comms like just the a secure, dedicated channel of communication and for communicating about emergencies. But again there need to be a group. There need to be agreement on the protocol. I think we're a long way from being able to say like we're here, we're ready to go and we need an email address.

A

Yeah sounds good good to me. Yeah. We can still wait and see how it develops and based on that, we can come up with the email address.

A

uh Moving on the next item on the agenda is uh how cat holders can help in client diversity. uh This is related to the previous all code meeting and after the meeting alexey had a post on the ethereum magician. I have added the link to the post in the agenda and uh yeah I mean we would like to hear thoughts on how we can help the client teams to understand the diversity and the real percentage of the client usage.

C

So what would that mean for us like? What can we do about that.

A

Right so I mean like I, uh I'm not sure uh it was edson's comment and uh telegram about like some suggestions.

D

So for this we all, we really need to do one thing which is gathered metrics from important uh installations of ethereum clients, um so that would be exchanges, mining pools, etc. uh So that that's two parts first, we have to gather lists of people. What the important installations are. Second, we have to like. I guess we would do a questionnaire survey or um just gather metrics manually until we find an automatic solution, automated solution, um we would need to know what the important things that we're gathering are like.

D

um One of them would be what what client you're using, but we need. I assume we need more important information than that.

A

So I had a small discussion with alexey uh over this topic and we kind of uh like trying to come up with the matrices that we we should be looking into and, as you mentioned, the uh critical installation that can be like pools, wallet and exchanges and the the important metrics that we should be looking into is like the client name, client version that they are using, because some people do not upgrade like, as the upgrades keeps changing, they are delayed.

A

So it's better to get that and maybe the status if it is in sync, with the latest version or not. If we I mean this, uh these are the information that we can make it public in form of some percentage, like certain percentage of clients are using get certain percentages are using some other version like these and others, and if we can also collect some public id and host related to uh these critical installations that we are referring to. That would be also helpful, though we don't need to show them publicly.

A

So I was trying to create a sheet uh in which we can, you know, have the basic information about all these things. uh Let me just change the setting and then I can share with you guys so this uh this talks about like uh this is just a rough idea. I'm not sure if it is ready to be shared with a community at this point of time, but it's just a thing that I was thinking that internally cat header should be maintaining.

A

This would help us collect various matrices and um yeah would be very useful for uh adapting's client, dev teams, I'm referring to a mining pool tabs. So I have populated that tab with a little bit of information that I got around the block distribution percentage like trying to collect who are major shareholders and whose installation we can consider. As you know, critical and everything like that, would you like to invite thoughts on this.

D

uh One thing: if we were to make like another google form it would create a spreadsheet automatically from the questions you made. Another metric I wanted to possibly add is if the installation has the backup plan in case there's a vulnerability found with their current client, um maybe to at least have them think about. Well, if I don't have a backup plan, maybe I should create one like an archive note or something.

C

A

C

Another thought might be I I don't like. I don't know if this seems like maybe a bit too political, but we might want to think about evangelizing non-guest notes, like maybe putting in a question, would you consider switching to a non-geth client, not even necessarily pushing any harder than that, but seeing if people would be willing to switch to either nether mind or betsu or anything like that?.

A

That's also an interesting question I mean like will not make it a mandatory question, but if people would like to answer that, why not it's a good piece.

C

That's a good way of thinking about it yeah, but I mean in general. I would think this should be a very short like google form, like maybe four or five easy to answer like you know, 30 second, for the entire survey kind of a thing based off of what both you and edson are saying,.

A

Right yeah sure we can come up with that. The only concern what I feel at this point of time, the sheet that we have with the you know the contacts, that's not updated and most of the information are general from their website. So my assumption is, it can be a little slow. I mean like, of course, I'll come up with this form by this weekend and from monday we can like collect some feedback and everything else. But how can we get the correct contact information?

A

Do people have suggestion on that or if they have contacts, can we just start adding it somewhere, and that would be helpful.

C

This actually sort of overlaps with the emergency comps work, so that was one of the things jay was saying and the little telegram um she was pretty emphatic that lists, like uh contactless with big shareholders, should be sort of locked down. So I I I was hoping to hear her talk a little bit more about that. I don't know I I don't know, but we should probably be at least a little bit careful with import like if there's important contact information about how much it circulates.

A

Right, it makes sense that we keep this thing as private as possible, unlike since the cat holders are doing this, so not going like beyond the close group who are actively involved in that it would not be a com like a community accessible document, so yeah yeah that that was the thing I was thinking about like we might want to get more updated information on maybe have one sheet that we keep on updating on a regular basis, and somebody suggested like maybe in a month or six months.

A

We should always refresh and do that we'll add as a task for categories and we'll start doing it. From this point onwards, I.

D

A

Yeah any more question comments or thoughts on this topic.

B

So so does the data in that spreadsheet says it comes from um miningpoolstats.stream?

B

Does that is that data stored on the blockchain or do they know or do or do mining pools, publish their address and or anything like that, and it's linked up that way.

A

uh I'm not sure if it is like stored in some kind of uh blockchain. I'm gonna share the link here on the chat.

A

I just uh stumbled with this website and found the information that could be used, but if people have more suggestion or have any other website uh in mind that can provide this kind of information that would be helpful like, um and I was also thinking, I'm not sure about it.

A

I was also thinking that this, um the nodes information is being collected by ether nodes, so I mean: should we reach out to them to even you know, get this particular information added to their website and if they have a way out to collect information which is like not delayed information, it's reflecting the current status and we can just provide him the fee, then the fields that we are looking into. That would also be a way out to get this information available as up to date. What do people think about that.

A

So, let's, let's start filling up the sheet from rn and I'm gonna I'll try to get get the form ready, send it to whoever contact. I have and collect it from the website and then, if we get some uh good metrics, we will also reach out to ethernet's people and see where we can go from there. I mean if we can make this information available there. That would be super helpful.

A

Okay, moving on the next item is a ech discard channel um a william um if you would like to go ahead with the update for that.

C

Okay sure on the last call um pooch. I think that was you who brought up maybe migrating from getter um like the sort of current getter and maybe even telegram, set up to discord, um discord just offers a easier interface and a more versatile interface in a lot of ways. um There wasn't much commenting then, and we are a small group today there is a discord that has been set up. Let me see if I can get a link up to it um real quickly.

E

C

uh I'll see if I can bring that up in the meantime, we've made um we've made pooja opened up a channel already, um so we have some functionality there. What we're really waiting for is, if uh uh I'm not gonna, be able to oh wait.

C

um The question is just basically the community opinion like amongst the cat herders if they would like to see a migration from getter to telegram um who just asked that, at least in the beginning, there should be a bridge between getter and also telegram to the discord. So I'm going to be trying to work on that over the next week.

A

So the primary roles that we are thinking here uh should be of three categories. I mean proposer of three categories: members, contributors and community members. I mean it's just an initial thought. Any kind of feedback is welcome, so for the members who would be um who is having the uh who is with the cat hardest team for over a year and has the herd token, they will have admin access.

A

That means they can control the entire um discard channel and the contributor, which has been actively contributing to cataracts tasks, meeting notes and others, and they will have moderator access community, uh the category that is like silent members or are rare contributors and they will have read-only access only.

A

So these are the first three roles, although I know that at this point uh not many of us have heard token, but we will also look into how how to handle that situation. But we are considering people who are over here and are interested to uh help and support with the admin role. We can add them as members.

A

And when we are ready with the bridge thing, uh maybe by next week or before the next meeting, then we can actually share this discord to public and start using it publicly and people will have not much issues, because even if they are continuing with their previous channel like getter or telegram, they would be. Actually I mean their messages would actually be will be received in the discord channel as well.

C

I would recommend, maybe at some point end of lifeing at least the getter bridge, just to like sort of force, people to migrate eventually but yeah. I am in agreement.

B

I like that idea, because even with the bridge between gitter and um the two we have now, it's kind of confusing.

A

Right, I get that sometimes, um and they are not in sync and they we do not get images and there are some miscommunications so yeah. Maybe in future we can enforce them to use discord only, but just to begin with it's better to have a bridge in between.

C

A

Okay, um moving on the next item is the catalyst funding, uh molochta and esp. uh I did not see hudson here, so we would like to skip this. I will wait for him to show up in next meeting and then we can continue discussion over there um item number six ech is a tao. I would like to skip that as well. Unless people have thoughts on it because we did not have any further communication, I mean like discussion on this topic since the last meeting I may not have much update.

A

Do people have anything to say.

B

I just have a question: what would that mean or what would an ech style do.

A

Okay, so what we were thinking initially like uh we, we are a working group kind of like people are working as a working group and mostly on volunteer thing, but we're trying to give in a shape as tao, like only um like, whatever major decisions that we are taking, we should be doing it uh on chain and aragon uh was the uh chain that we I mean, like aragon, dao.

A

We used earlier when we started in the gathered group, so we were trying to revive this thing and all the major decisions should go by voting using that process got.

B

It okay thanks.

A

um The next item- uh 1559 free market changes- um uh um I don't see tim on the call, but as far as I know, they have started the testing. uh I mean test network for uh this 1559 or other proposals that they are working on and yeah. I think we should wait for him to provide more updates on it.

A

The next item is discuss and close the ech github issues and peers. I am not sure if we have any new issues. No, we don't see any new one.

A

The funding um there is no funding.

A

E

Hey sorry, I'm late! It's us to get up for these meetings.

A

That's all right, I'm glad so uh we are almost at the end of the meeting, but uh um like uh we can go back to the discussion that we were having and we were hoping that you join us. Maybe later uh we are at agenda number nine now uh uh discussing about the review of outstanding action item from previous ech meeting. So before we go ahead and discuss the action items from the previous meeting. I think it would be better to go back and discuss more about the communication group emergency communication group.

A

William, has provided some update on that uh so william. If you would not mind recapping it and then we can bring jay to up to the speed and she can share her views.

C

Sure no problem, um so I I think you have seen pretty much everything in the telegram channel that puja made, but basically, thus far, I've thrown together a basic idea of um basically a google doc, where I tried to define what an emergency is, how to how we should provision for the such an event and what should happen during an emergency from a coms team kind of perspective.

C

um To be super clear, I made up the whole thing like I, so I would definitely appreciate some feedback at some point about this. uh Definitely being that, you have a security background and various comments that you've made thus far.

C

um I would be interested in trying to figure out in an actionable way how we could have the information that we need in order to start trying to assemble teams that would be available in the event of an emergency um and also feedback from you about maybe what we're missing and what we need to think about that we haven't thought about yet.

E

Yeah, that makes sense. I would love to take a look at that and um and yeah I mean at the end of the day, we're going into unknown unknowns here. um So I think we can really only speculate on what an event could be um to make sort of a definition that can be inclusive.

E

um You know, and as long as we have something to go on um and we have people that are willing to sort of act a little bit while they're sort of uh not in the know, if something was to happen when they have the resources to um to be able to make as good a decisions as possible. I think that's all. You can really ask.

C

Okay and great, um should we try and further communica uh coordinate with you about sometimes where we could sit down, maybe review what what I've come up with so far? How would you like to proceed from here.

E

uh Yeah sure um that's fine, my my schedule is pretty wide open. Generally, um I'm I make my own hours, so it's fine, but I am on a pacific time um at the moment.

E

um So uh yeah, um I guess, take a look at your schedule, see what works and um and then let's find time and we can go over it.

C

The best way to reach this telegram.

E

uh Yeah um and if you have to feel free to ping me on my work, email or my personal email work, email is just jay. Quinnstamp.Com uh personal is jayharrell gmail.com.

C

Okay, fine, so I'll reach out to out of band and we'll try we'll try to coordinate.

E

Yeah, fantastic and I think we get a a plan and I don't think it needs to be super heavy too. I think it'd be pretty lightweight, um we just need to have people and we need to have the resources and um some people who know what to do when it when it occurs.

C

Yeah yeah, I think so too, I mean to some degree. My major fear here uh is just that. I really don't know what I'm doing. I just like I said sort of sat down and made up the document, so getting feedback from other human beings would be amazing.

E

C

E

And um love to coordinate on that with you as.

C

E

Yeah, let's, let's, let's figure that one out.

C

Great excellent awesome.

A

Thank you, jay. Thank you, william. um I think it would be great to set up a time and have a meeting or discussion, and then we would be good to update rest of the groups on this topic.

A

uh Moving on the next item on the agenda is review. The previous meeting action items and decisions made uh I'm on the sheet. The first one is brent, will create a list of possible emails. It's done brent will re contact charles for email activation. This is also closed. The eip ib project, at least once in two week. I guess this is about the project board that we are talking about. Yes, we will have to do that. That's uh like work in progress, bring ech discord discussion to the next meeting before it is public.

A

uh We have discussed about it, possibly by next meeting when we are ready with bridges with other channels. We will open it for public to join the discord, bring ech as a dial to the next meeting. We are shelving it for the next meeting.

A

We hope to see more members to join in so that we can have more discussion on this topic. Continue. The discussion on ech bounty program in the next meeting- I'm not sure we discussed it, but do people have thought on it. um How do we want to arrange for bounty programs? That's just a thought that I shared in the previous meeting, but if people have more thoughts.

A

Or maybe we can yeah, please go ahead.

C

Jay, I think it was might have been me. um Can you refresh my memory? I I just don't. I don't remember the conversation.

A

Okay, uh so we have received a grant from allah people and uh the grant is for three months and uh we are hoping to use the fund in a way like we in we can have more community participation and we can have some kind of bounty program to involve more people from the community, and I was thinking like I was making some uh doing some budget for the caterers for next three months and kind of uh made some some pool for bounty program, and I was wondering what kind of bounty program that we can add that might invite more community participation.

A

It can be related to blogs. It can be related to some something that is going on the ethereum ecosystem, some some critical discussion topic or something so yeah. If people have thoughts on how we can run.

E

um I think it's not necessarily the thing we do it's more. The way we do it. um You know, thinking where there's sort of an inflow of eyes and um there's a natural incentive to participate is a great way to get attention on stuff like this. So if there's a way to like turn it in it's turned this bounty for participation into itself.

E

This is just an example um into itself, a bounty for say, um an upcoming hack to the same people who did um hack the money, for example, that that's an area with a lot of eyes and um and a possibility for participation.

E

um I don't know that this maps to that, but I think there's there's um a lot of opportunity to to get participation through those kinds of mechanisms.

E

um So maybe it's paired with an upcoming hack in those chats, that's where to get people uh interested, and I think, there's a lot of people that always want to get involved in ethereum, um and they don't know where to start when you know people think that they have to be allowed into places or you know they need to.

E

um They need to have the right credentials when really it's just about showing up, and so I think um you know so a lot of people sort of show up at hackathons.

E

So I think that would be a really good place to start and then having associated blogs, um onboarding, stuff and um mechanisms and not in that sort, sort explaining what the eip process is, how you can help and how you actually do have the credentials to help.

A

Yeah, those are good suggestions, so.

C

It's a lot of really cool stuff.

A

Right so I mean like we, we may not excuse me. We may not have a very big budget, uh but that's a good idea. We can start with uh associating ourselves with one of the hackathon organizers and we can start from there and, yes, we can come up with a couple of things.

A

The main thing to be discussed here would be uh the the key point around which we would want to have- maybe blog, maybe any kind of descriptive, uh informational, piece or hackathon might want to come up with that, but this is like, as I mentioned earlier, this is that very early stage. We may have to budget our stuff and see how much money do we allocate for this particular task, and then we can start that good to have thoughts there. Thank you, jay.

E

Yeah for sure, and um if we do go down that path, uh how could you help be the person to shell in all the chats.

A

Thank you for that. I'm certainly gonna.

B

A

Thank you. Everyone.

B

A

Moving on uh the next uh decision item was 37.7 it since we received the grant from uh malloc. The two notes will be funded by ech from july one. uh Yes, uh we have to start and the first one I I'm not sure it will be coming up this week and it will start from this week or I'm not sure, did we have something two weeks back.

A

Anyway, I will look into that. If people have done notes for ethereum two dot, o implementers call, and if it is done for the month of july, we can reach out to the ethereum catalyst funding repo and submit the funding request over there.

D

So scott isn't doing the um the ether 2.0 uh funding for notes.

A

uh Up till 30th july, only from first uh 30th june, only from first of the july, we are taking it over here, although I'm not sure if we have the funding of moloch and our wallet, but since they have allocated it, we have to use it. There may be some delay, but we are hoping to get it from all of people, not from the bitcoin.

D

A

The next one is uh the instruction for that follow the same process for requesting funds for it to notes. As of the rest of the meetings, we do it for cat headers, eipip and all core dev we're going to use the same process for it too, as well uh 37.9.

A

I think it is related to 1559 wait for wait for tim to provide further updates, 37.10 discuss the erc 20 token to be converted into die or at uh I think, I've seen it, but I'll still wait for hudson to respond on that.

A

The action items number one is ech will create a security emergency group and volunteers, william, is taking lead. William and jay are doing um already called coordinating on that. If people are interested feel free to reach us, william, zay or me- and let us know if you are interested to volunteer for that group, 37.2 william, will initiate a document. uh He has shared the document today. All kind of feedbacks are welcome: 37.3, puja, to create an administration post for clear, new glacier, upgrade post bottom report and yeah on on this new glacier thing.

A

I think I have created a full request uh yesterday and I have received some comment. I'm gonna just share the link here, so uh the response that I received here was like these type of things should not be a part of eip repository.

A

So I'm not sure, although we have uh discussed this in the eipip meeting and that's how we proceeded towards submitting this pull request to the eip repository. If people have thoughts on it or would want to respond to the comment to the response that is received, feel free to do that and same is there for the another request that is created for the network. Upgrade template.

A

I'm sharing the link here again.

A

uh I'm here to create the exposition post for near glacier. I was hoping to get a pr eip number from this pr to add it and create them this one, but I think I have to wait for the editors to make their decision to merge it or discuss it further.

A

The last action required is puja to create rules and other channels for ecs discord. Yes, I have discussed the rules today and we have kind of implemented it in east discord. As soon as we are ready with bridges, we should be ready to open discord for the public usage and yeah. We are almost at the end of the meeting. Do people have uh any other topic to discuss any other business.

A

I I think I have one I I remember uh mentioning this about the um women in ethereum uh thing: women in ethereum space we are, the cathodes are helping them the ethereum summer camp team. To organize this event- and um uh I was hoping to you- know- live stream with the help of cathodes youtube. We are having great speakers there and it's all about ethereum space and women working in the space. So does anybody have any strong objection or any other thought like we shouldn't, or we should.

C

I'm all for it.

E

Yeah all four sounds great.

A

E

I guess I I just wanted a little more information. Is it more of a panel or is it a? I need to have a talk, ready.

A

uh I will update to you on those five.

A

I also have asked the organizer to send you the confirmed schedule and yes.

E

I'll update you perfect, okay, um also, the I'm looking in the ech chat, um I'm not seeing that doc to review. I do see the the spreadsheet is that what I'm to review.

A

I think it is in the communication channel and we also shared in the link today.

A

C

Just put it in the chat again: okay, perfect.

E

A

Okay, so that's it.

E

uh That's, I guess that's all I might well, I'm I'm still kind of learning this whole eip process stuff, but.

A

Yeah yeah great to have you, I mean uh coming from a background of security audit and we all know constance. So we are very happy to have you as another member of catherides, glad that yeah.

C

E

So I think that's about I'm sorry. I didn't hear any of that.

C

We're happy to have you on board.

E

I'm happy to be here. Thank you, I'm still trying to find ways of where I can pitch in, but I do feel that yeah, the emergency calms is genuinely.

E

C

Yes, so I think that's about it for us, yeah.

A

Yes, that's all about uh uh today's meeting. uh Thank you all for joining us today and I hope to see you again in two weeks from now. The next day uh meeting is on august 4th at 1400 utc. Thank you. Everyone have a great day.

F

Thanks peter thank you.

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