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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #21 [2019/10/29]
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C
B
A
Hudson,
Lane
and
I
had
a
chat
with
Ken
at
the
EF
about
how
we
can
better
collaborate
and
and
kind
of
grow
the
role
of
the
cat
herders
in
the
ether
ecosystem,
and
so
we
wanted
to
kind
of
share
sort
of
the
high
level
up
kinds
of
that
discussions
on
this
call
and
get
people's
thoughts,
and
with
that
so
I
see
Ken
you're
here
but
muted.
You
want
to
sort
of
recap
what,
with
your
your
perspective
on
the
discussions
or
yeah.
E
Yeah
for
sure,
thanks
for
having
me
so
I'm
super
excited
right,
I
think
you
guys
play
a
very
pivotal
role
in
terms
of
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
be
done
within
the
ecosystem
and
you
guys
just
do
a
great
job
at
actually
getting
the
right
people
and
really
kind
of
filling
those
voids.
So
based
on
our
conversation,
you
know
the
the
note
taking
funds
will
be
covered,
not
specifically
by
EF,
but
their
community
members.
E
You
know
I
think
it's
a
really
strong
signal
to
the
rest
of
the
community
that
you
know
this
is
wanted
by
the
ecosystem.
This
is
wanted
by
others
in
aetherium
and
not
just
needs
doesn't
need
to
come
from
EF
right.
So
it's
really
important
that
you
know
a
lot
of
these
initiatives
are
covered
and
I
think
moving
forward.
E
We're
going
to
have
increased
communications
right
more
than
I
was
any
more
than
happy,
but
I'm
actually
just
like
super
excited,
because
we
did
finalize
this
we're
gonna
start
doing,
have
a
cadence
call
where
we
discuss
you
know
what
can
we
have
as
like
a
project
plan,
moving
forward
to
to
be
that
first
rung
on
the
ladder
as
people
dive
into
the
space
right?
How
does
cat
herders
actually
become
the
first
interfacing
role
to
have
more
people
involved
in
right?
E
Where
is
the
first
place
that
people
who
want
to
dive
into
it
there
and
go
right
and
cat
herders
plays
that
you
know
it
becomes
that
like
I,
guess,
I
want
to
say
greeter
but
I
think
that's
the
wrong
word.
It
becomes
like
the
happy
happy
group
that
stands
there
and
says
hey
like
join
here
like
we
have
so
many
different.
You
know
things
that
need
to
be
attacked
like
we'd
love.
To
have
you
here
and
it's
completely.
E
E
Pivotal
role
in
terms
of
really
getting
people
to
not
just
dive
in
but
fall
so
deeply
into
the
rabbit
hole
that
is
ecosystem,
so
I'm
pretty
excited
to
kind
of
work
on
that
with
you
guys,
I
think
separately,
it's
also
understanding
kind
of
what
else
can
the
cat
herders
play
a
role
in
right?
Whether
that's
I
think
Tim
brought
up
a
great
idea
about
kordell's?
E
You
know
what
happens
when
Hudson's,
not
there
right,
I,
think
you
know,
having
those
contingencies
and
having
the
cat
herders
play
that
role
and
finding
the
right
people
to
you
know
pick
up
the
pieces
or
I
need
not
even
picking
up
pieces,
but
you
know,
having
substitutes
trading.
Redundancy
is
around.
You
know,
really
important
roles
within
the
ecosystem.
I
think
this
is
extremely
important,
something
that
we
just
have
not
really
thought
too
much
about
so
yeah
as
I
said:
you're
not
excited
to
be
here
and
just
move
this
forward.
F
E
So
onboarding
I
guess
is
like
a
catch-all
term
at
this
point,
right,
I,
don't
think,
there's
like
a
specific.
You
know.
This
is
how
you
get
into
a
theremin,
and
maybe
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
come
up
with
together
right,
maybe
it's
you
know
if
you're
just
looking
to
get
out
on
a
theory
I'm.
What
are
things
that
you
can
do
to
immediately
play
a
role
right?
E
E
I,
don't
idea,
what's
going
on
I,
just
I,
just
remember
like
Hudson,
you
know
talking
about
deep
sand
and
Martin
and
Peter
and
and
a
lot
of
it
was
really
kind
of
me,
diving
in
and
trying
to
like
understand
on
my
own
and-
and
this
is
like
before
III
search
there
trying
to
understand
like
okay.
What
is
this?
What
does
this
mean?
How
do
I
understand
like
what
this,
what
these
people
are
talking
about?
You
know
I
think
a
formal
onboarding
can
be.
E
You
know
breaking
this
down
like
how
do
we
have
this
in
layman's
terms
and
the
thing
that
I
always
kind
of
draw
back
to
and
I've
said
this
several
times
before
is
maybe
like
a
children's
book.
Maybe,
like
you,
know
cartoons
or
in
comics
that
people
kind
of
just
read
and
pick
up
right
and-
and
you
know
this
is
the
little
childish
but
I
do
something
I
doing
that
on.
G
E
This
is,
this
is
what
we
need.
This
is
what
I'm
talking
about
right,
like
I,
think
if
we
can
have
maybe
I
mean
that
was
just
an
example,
but
I
think
there's
so
much
to
onboarding.
That
there's
not
like
a
specific
idea
that
I
have
right,
and
this
is
where
I
kind
of
lean
on
you
guys
to
tell
me
you
know
what
is
it
that
what
is
it
that
will
be
that
first
wrong.
You
know
dipping
your
toes
into
theory
right.
H
H
I
I
would
like
to
add
one
more
thing
here
about
a
new
initiative
that
is,
that
is
being
serviced,
but
not
completely
happy
right.
Now,
it's
a
for
the
promotion
of
aetherium
that
is
called
as
a
marketing
cow.
It
is
a
group
of
community
people
who
are
kind
of
creating
Tao
and
looking
for
alliance
with
a
TM
foundation
and
iam
EEA,
Enterprise,
etherium,
Alliance
and
other
looking
them
as
a
funder
and
trying
to
come
up
with
ideas
like
you
know,
placing
billboards
ads
and
other
stuff,
and
that
way
they
are
looking
for
from
motion
of
etherium.
I
F
A
One
idea
I
had
and
I
posted
this
in
our
chat
a
couple
days
ago
is
I'm
going
to
eat
water,
do
and
I
think
a
couple
of
us
are
as
well
I'd
love
to
see
how
we
can
kind
of
use
that
as
an
opportunity
to
like
brainstorm.
Some
of
these
ideas
for
with
the
community
or
just
get
like
kind
of
the
community's
thoughts
on
where
the
cat
herders
can
be
most
helpful
or
just
in
general,
like
this
stuff.
That's
missing
that
in
etherium
that
the
catheters
can
help
with
so
yeah.
A
A
J
A
J
A
K
C
H
H
Yeah,
so
as
far
as
hard
fort
coordination
goes,
we
the
etherium
foundation,
just
hired
James
Hancock
to
do
hard
fort
coordination.
He
is
now
communicating
with
some
of
the
client
teams
and
helping
with
the
figuring
out
the
block
number
for
the
next
hard
fork,
for
example,
and
other
things
like
that.
So
I
think
that's
just
about
it.
The
good
news
about
this
is
the
cat.
Herders
don't
need
to
do
as
much
when
it
comes
to
that
stuff.
H
I
mean
obviously
during
hard
Forks,
the
sending
out
broader
communications
and
blog
posts
and
stuff
like
that
will
still
be
involved
in,
but
as
far
as
the
actual
hard
fork
itself
and
a
lot
of
the
you
know
low-level
technical
coordination
and
EIP
coordination.
That's
required.
We
do
not
have
to
do
that.
A
And
I'll
add
a
couple
things
to
that:
one
is:
we
chose
a
main
net
block
for
the
hard
fork
which
is
gonna,
be
on
December,
4th
I.
Think
there's
still
like
two
proposals
for
the
blocks,
but
basically
the
maintenance
will
be
on
December
4th,
so
I
assume
we'll
probably
have
to
draft
the
blog
post
for
that
to
make
the
community
aware
and
two
things
about
also
making
the
community
aware
is
one
there's
like
been
a
lot
of
I
guess
talk
about
like
the
1884
eat
that
breaks
some
of
the
smart
contracts.
I,
don't
know.
A
H
H
That's
just
a
here's,
the
things
that
can
affect
you
in
a
hard
fork
room
or
maybe
something
that's
a
little
broader
for
more
interested
parties
to
join,
like
everybody's
tech,
lead
from
their
project,
can
join
this
group
and
discuss
the
latest
findings
from
what
can
affect
you
for
the
hard
work
updates,
because
they
don't
have
the
time
to
look
at
the
notes.
Every
week.
H
C
H
A
More
like
Aguilar,
Channel
kind
of
like
I,
know,
there's
one
for
the
client
developers
for
security
issues
and
and
and
even
awkward,
there's,
but
just
having
one.
That's
like
that
developer
protocol
changes
where
we
just
broadcast
those
and
I
think
that
would
also
help
with
the
problem
of
like
no
one
reviews
eats
before
they're
accepted.
So
if
you
have
a
room
like
that,
then
you
can
say:
hey
we're
discussing
this
EEP.
You
know
here
are
the
implications.
Can
you
please
comment
before
it's
actually
accepted,
rather
than
once
it's
been
included
in
the
upgrade.
H
F
I
think
if
it's
a
church
I
know
you're
gonna
run
into
the
same
sort
of
problems
that
you're
that
we
have
with
them
not
reading
the
updates
and
you'll
have
to
attract
people
to
the
channel
and
then
get
them
to
pay
attention
to
what's
happening
in
the
channel.
Unless
it's
like
some
kind
of
helpdesk
like
as
in
eke,
my
my
afro
because
I
haven't
been
reading
things
and
there
was
just
a
hard
work
that
broke
my
dad
and
I'm
losing
tons
of
money
a
day.
Sort
of
the
thing
I
think.
H
So
the
the
thing
is
what
they're
wanting
is
a
channel
of
communication
and
if
we,
if
they
ignore
it,
that's
their
problem.
We'll
probably
get
an
email
address
from
them
too.
So
we
can
send
out
emails
to
like
warn
of
hard
forks
and
like
any
potential
downtime
as
things
get
more
complicated
in
the
future,
with
the
eath
one
need
to
transition.
But
as
long
as
it's
really,
the
edict
is
more
around
setting
up
that
channel
and
participating
in
it
more
than
making
sure
they
participate
in
it.
In
my
opinion,.
I
Know
that
trails
used
for
right
now,
so
he
could,
that
is,
are
basically
used
for
if
somebody
introduces
nuit
and
that
needs
to
be
accepted
with
routes
and
draft
position,
or
it
requires
some
reviewers
to
attack,
attract
attention
of
reviewers
that
that
is
being
currently
used
for
so
probably
use
it.
For
you
know
when
we
have
some
new
EIP.
B
I
B
A
Oh
can
you
merge
my
evo
blah,
blah
and
and
most
or
like
a
large
part
of
apes,
don't
actually
like
affect
that
developers,
so
I
think
having
something
that's
focused
where
if
we,
if
there's
like
a
lower
amount
of
messages,
then
it's
easier
to
expect
people
to
read
them
than
if
they're
reading
this
random
Channel
about
like
somebody's
weird
like
networking,
EEP
and
it
doesn't
affect
them,
I
think
it's
it's
just
harder
to
get
the
engagement
there,
but
anyways.
Maybe
we
can
take
this
offline
of
coordinating
how
how
we
actually
set
up
that
channel
yeah.
B
E
B
A
A
A
F
A
A
So
so
there
was
a
an
action
item.
Oh
let
me
close
some
other
stuff.
There
was
an
action
item
about
reaching
out
to
the
Gordy
team
and
and
with
regards
to
the
upgrade
and
and
getting
them.
You
know
aware
that
the
upgrade
is
happening.
I
was
just
wondering
if
anyone
has
an
update
there
or
if,
like
is
this
something
we
want
to
take
on
and
if
so
who
and
how.
I
I
B
Yeah
I
have
a
question
for
lane
to
possibly
to
start
things
out.
Do
you
want
me
to
jump
in
yeah,
easy?
Okay,
so
does
it
work
if
I
share
my
screen
and
I
can
show
the
spreadsheet
I've
kind
of
been
hacking
on
just
to
point
out.
C
A
B
B
B
This
is
just
only
shows
the
current
date
and
some
people
reported
numbers
on
these
and
they
weren't
these
numbers,
weren't
matching
up
with
these
numbers,
and
that
seemed
to
be
the
problem.
But
after
I
went
through
and
calculated
everything,
everything
mostly
starts
to
seem
to
balance
to
me
and,
and
so
so
so
I
guess
my
question
delaying
is,
if
we
go
to
the
original
there's,
this
total
tokens
received
do
not
match
amount
report
on
grant,
and
this
was
submitted
by
Lane
and
Lane
pointed
out.
B
So
if
I
search
for
all
of
those,
then
there's
only
these
two
here
but
in
anyway
I
guess.
My
question
was
to
Lane
four
for
this
here.
I
can
see
this
number
here,
I'm
assuming
he
got
from
this
number
here,
but
then
he
gives
this
number
here
to
point
that
the
source
of
what
doesn't
match
with
that.
But
I
was
wondering
what
is
it
in
this
spreadsheet
here
and
I'll
go
back
over
to
here
other
than
these
two
that
should
be
totaling
up
to
what
he
reported
as
this
amount
here.
L
L
A
L
B
L
B
L
B
Ok,
so
that's
where
that
number
and
that's
I
assume
that
great.
But
then
you
also
include
a
delete
to
the
ether
scan
address
and
that's
the
multi-sig
account
and
and
so
what
and
you
were
saying
it
was
a
couple
hundred
dollars
off
and
and
what
number
in
that
multi-sig
were
you
saying
is
a
couple
hundred
dollars
off,
because
I
only
see
two
numbers
from
from
I
mean
yeah,
it's
easy
to
see
the
thirteen
thousand
CLI
incoming
and
then
there's
another
one
immediately
after
that
which
is
357
died
coming
in
from
the
same
address.
L
Bread,
so
that's
that's!
The
question
I
was
asking
in
in
that
issue
was,
was
saying:
I
see
this
fifteen
seven,
nine
nine,
which
is
sort
of
supposed
to
be
canonic,
color,
authoritative.
Why
don't
the
numbers
that
I
see
on
the
blockchain
sum
up
to
that
or
or
which
set
of
them
should
I,
add
so
I
think
that
that
is
the.
If
it
sorry
if
it's
not
super
clear
from
the
language
here,
but
that
is
the
question
in
this
issue.
I.
I
Was
also
looking
into
this
spreadsheet
and
a
multi
sync
account,
and
what
I
could
figure
out
was
like
Lane
was
correct
in
mentioning
that
it
is
a
couple
of
hundreds
of
and
I
think
that
is
because
of
the
LPG
and
ZRX
and
wth
conversion
rate
at
that
point
of
time,
because
sometimes
the
amount
is
being
calculated
in
dye
and
sometimes
it
is
being
calculated
in
USD.
So
if
we
try
to
bring
them
together,
there
are
a
couple
of
hundreds
here:
I
mean
in
my
spreadsheet.
I
It
showed
up
around
$250
off,
but
I
was
like
very
close,
getting
whatever
is
being
shown
to
get
coin
and
the
the
screenshot
I
shared
the
other
day
was
for
the
current
rate
that
I
took
it
from
the
coin
market
Capcom.
Maybe
they
are
referring
to
some
other
exchange
or
some
other
rates.
That
may
be
the
reason
of
this
couple
of
hundreds
off
here,
but
more
or
less
like.
I
B
I
pulled
up
your
your
image
here
on
the
screen.
Can
you
guys
see
that?
That's
that
that's
her
image
there,
so
the
W
eath,
so
some
pooja
I
have
a
question
so
when
you
calculate
C
go
back
to
here,
so
you
there's
this
number
here
and
you
said
it
was
a
couple
hundred
dollars
off.
What
number
was
it?
That
was
a
couple
hundred
dollars.
Where
did
you
come
up
with
that
number?
The.
I
C
I
One
nine
six
died
that
is
mentioned
in
get
coin.
Page
I
am
assuming
that
15,000,
something
that
Lane
has
mentioned
was
reflecting
there
on
that
day.
So
what
I
try
to
do
here?
I'm
I,
try
to
match
this
to
it.
196
die
with
my
calculation,
putting
the
value
of
die
as
well
as
the
USD
in
that
particular
day.
So
I
found
that
those
are
almost
equal,
sumaya
yeah.
J
I
B
And
then
anything
all
the
numbers,
I
thought
I
was
seeing
problems
earlier,
but
that
was
just
because
I
didn't
quite
know
all
the
data,
but
from
what
I'm
seeing
now
everything
seems
to
be
reasonably
close,
not
too
far
off
so
so
anyway.
I
guess
we
still
have
the
question
laying
what
you
agree,
that
everything
looks
right
or
is
there
something
that
we
can
point
to?
That's
really
off
that
we
should
be
worrying
about.
L
L
I
think
we
also
have
a
theorem
cat,
herders
p.m.
issue
tied
to
that.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
unless
there's
something
pretty
could
be
sensitive
about
this,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
sharing
this,
just
it's
very
helpful
in
my
feeling
is
that
we
probably
shouldn't
take
up
too
much
more
bandwidth
on
this
call
with
this,
because
it's
just
sort
of
you
know
it's
a
lot
of
numbers,
I'm
happy
to
take
a
look
at
it
again
in
the
next
few
days.
A
A
L
A
So
there
are,
there
are
funds.
Commingled
I
mean
Aragon,
sent
us
six
hundred
dyes
for
the
notes,
takings
and
whatnot
I.
So
maybe
we
can
discuss
the
proper
audit
at
the
end.
It
was
on
the
agenda.
I
have
some
thoughts
about
the
funds
there,
but
just
like
the
stick
there
and
Jedi
not
to
leave
broad
path
in
the
end,
because
it
will
take
up
all
the
time.
I
suggest
we
just
move
through
the
rest
and
then
get
back
to
it.
Does
that
make
sense,
yeah.
A
Yeah
and
and
yeah
by
the
way,
great
job,
Bret
and
pooja.
On
this,
like
forensic
analysis,
this
is
yeah.
This
is
really
valuable
that
we
actually
know
what
everybody
is.
Okay,
next
agenda
item
is
kind
of
more
of
an
announcement,
but
there
was
a
vote
to
add
me
to
the
multi-sig
and
it
went
through
on
Eragon
and
I
was
added,
so
just
sure
transparency
to
say,
though
I'm
on
there
and
there's
a
gift,
github
issue
with
that
by
the
way,
Brent
you're
still
sharing
your
screen,
the
heads
up,
Thanks
yeah,.
A
D
I've
been
trying
to
speak
to
you
Denny,
just
with
regards
to
finding
out.
What's
going
on,
there
appears
to
be
a
break
in
communication
between
himself
and
get
coin.
With
regards
to
the
creation
of
the
bounties,
we're
probably
about
four
or
five
bounties.
Now
behind
and
I.
Think
the
last
person
to
have
been
paid
was
brain,
there's
a
couple
that
are
still
waiting
for
future.
She
she's
got
a
couple
of
and
I
think
brains
actually
got
one
as
well
and
their
every
meeting
I'm
raising
it
with
Danny
just
sank.
D
Is
this
something
we
can
do
to
take
over
it?
Can
we
start
talking
to
get
coin
directly?
Can
we
manage
it
because,
obviously
Danny's
pretty
busy
as
it
is
at
the
moment?
Unfortunately,
it's
been
a
bit
of
a
brick
wall.
I'm
gonna
haven't
heard
anything
back
from
him,
so
I'm
kind
of
stuck
there
at
the
moment.
H
H
We
already
have
people
when
they
have
them
when
they
want
to
get
paid.
They
already
put
an
issue
in
so
I.
Don't
know
if
this
would
be
duplicate,
work,
yeah,.
L
B
I
I
A
Okay,
great
next
item
was
Moloch
now
and
other
funding
quick
update
there,
Charles
and
I
managed
to
get
our
funds
out
of
mana.
So
we
had
a
zoom
call
where
we
like
went
over
the
actual
transaction
and
made
sure
we
we
basically
ragequit
all
the
shares
except
one
so
that
we
can
still
have
the
catheters
be
Moloch
members,
because
we
still
have
a
share
in
Moloch.
So
we
got
sixteen
worth
or
we--the
in
the
multi-sig.
A
L
Think
I
think
that
so
I'm
as
into
this
meme,
as
you
guys
are
but
sorry
to
bring
you
down
to
earth
I
think
the
the
right
question
to
ask
just
from
a
financial
perspective
is
what
percentage
of
our
assets
are
in
volatile
instruments
versus
in
a
stable
coin.
Like
dye?
Does
anyone
know
off
the
top
of
their
heads?
A
L
L
I'm
pretty
comfortable
with,
but
I
do
think
that
the
majority,
whether
it's
2/3
or
3/4,
should
probably
be
in
something
like
die
just
because
the
cat
herders
is
not
in
the
business
of
speculations.
It's
just
my
two
cents,
so
you
cut
out
when
you
said
your
percentage.
Actually,
what
was
the
percentage
I'm
just
making
up
numbers,
I'm,
saying
25%,
something
like
that
in
the
more
volatile
assets
makes
I'm
comfortable
I
could
sleep
at
night
with
that,
if
it's
more
than
that,
I'd
be
a
little
uncomfortable.
Every
time
with
you
either.
E
E
E
It
feels
like
a
good
benchmark
number,
but
I
I
would
like
to
kind
of
think
more
critically
about,
like
you
know
what
what
are
the
goals
of
the
cat
herders
and
what
do
we
hope
to
accomplish
in
the
next
like
six
to
twelve
months,
where
you
know
we
feasibly
or
reasonably,
are
going
to
deploy
X
amount
of
capital
within
this
time
frame.
So,
for
example
like
we
can
expect,
and
we
can
forecast
how
much
we're
going
to
give
out
on
notes.
E
You
know
buy
quarters
right,
and
so
in
that
sense
you
know
we
know
we
need
X
amount
of
capital
held
and
died
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
do
this.
If
it
does
fall
back
down
to,
like
you
know,
80
or
70,
then
I
think
you
know.
Iii
personally
am
a
fan
of
making
sure
that
we
have
downside
protection,
but
that's
just
me
being
more
risk,
averse,
I,
don't
know
and
I
don't
want
to
kind
of
posit
any
I
just
want
to
throw
this
out
there.
As
like
a
healthy
conversation,
we
should
be
having.
L
L
F
Just
maybe
another
way
of
looking
at
it
I
think
I
might
be
restating
some
of
the
things
you
said
can
I
mean
it
could
be.
We
should
just
be
calculating
what
we're
holding
our
funds
on
based
off
of
why
what
currency
so
to
speak?
We
need
to
pay
out
in
if
the
only
things
we're
paying
out
or
die.
So
then
it
would
make
sense
for
pretty
much
everything
to
be
and
I.
Is
there
anything
that
we're
paying
out
and
a
threat?
Now.
A
I,
don't
think
there
is
I
think
there
is
an
argument
to
be
made.
That's
like
we
want
to
have
some
upside
theorem,
but,
like
the
question,
is
how
much
and
they
kind
of
flip
this
question
around.
Given
that,
like
the
consensus,
is
we
mostly
want
to
have
our
funds
and
die
and
how
much
ether
is
kind
of
what
we're
debating?
Does
it
make
sense
that
just
like
liquidate
all
the
weak
to
die
sort
of
as
soon
as
possible?
F
And
I
like
the
way
to
you're
phrasing,
the
question
a
lot
I
mean
the
the
it's
sort
of
like
just
the
practical
application.
We
have
a
number
of
funds
that
are
located
in
red,
but
that
are
currently
in
rap
date,
rap
teeth
pretty
much
any
payout.
It
needs
to
be
in
die
so
just
again
rephrasing
the
question
that
way
its.
How
quickly
do
we
liquidate
all
the
funds?
I
mean,
maybe
that's
what
we
should
apply:
the
25
percent
thumbnail
role
to
and
liquidate
75%
of
the
done
to
die.
L
I
think,
if
I'm
understanding
correctly
Tim's
appointment
is
that
we
don't
know
the
exact
amount
right
now,
because
the
accounting
is
still
a
bit
of
an
open
question
with
respect
to
the
funds
being
mixed
up.
I
am
with
you
on
this
one:
Tim
I'd
rather
liquidate
everything,
and
then
we
can.
We
could,
you
know,
acquired
Keith
in
the
future
if
we
so
desire,
but
that
should
be
kind
of
the
default
here.
Defaults
were
powerful,
yeah.
A
A
We
can
go
and
buy
back
20%
of
your
Treasury
either,
but,
and
that
means
that,
while
we're
debating
what
that's
right,
percentages
were
not
exposed
to
volatility,
whereas
if
you
do
the
other
way
around
and
say
like
a
month
from
now,
we
decide
that
we
want
I,
don't
know.
X
percent
of
either
ether
and
ether
has
gone
up
or
down.
We've
kind
of
speculated
during
that
month,
so
I
would
yeah.
I
would
personally
feel
more
comfortable.
B
L
This,
this
is
what
we
did
historically
like
from
the
very
beginning.
We
were
receiving
donations
and
multiple
tokens
and
Hudson
or
myself
went
in.
You
know,
sold
them
on.
You
know,
swap
or
something
or
finance,
like
posted
all
the
transaction
details
in
the
spreadsheet
for
transparency
like
that's
what
we
always
did.
Historically,
we
just
kind
of
got
a
bit
lazy.
So
to
me
this
is
just
continuing
the
previous
course
of
action.
A
A
M
A
Cool
so
let's
have
those
two
action
items
and
then
the
final
item
on
the
agenda
was
the
Frog
pal
funding
community
update,
I,
think
Charles.
You
had
some
some
thoughts
you
wanted
to
share
there
yeah.
G
So
last
week,
when
team
now
were
going
over
the
more
like
execution
of
retrieving
our
funds,
we
were
talking
about
remaining
money
that
we
have
from
the
proc
that
wallet
and
originally
we
thought
that
the
remaining
money
would
go
back
to
actually
Hudson
can
chime
in
here.
Actually
because
he
was
a
large
originally
stated
this-
that
we
wanted
to
return
the
funds
to
the
major
contributors
of
the
the
profited
key
coin
grant.
G
So
what
are
the
thoughts
on
returning
the
money
that
be
contributors
on
the
get
get
coin,
grin
retrieved
to
them,
as
well
as
the
remaining
to
the
rest
of
consensus
or
whoever
else
fun
deleted?
Or
are
we
allowed
to
ask
them
permission
to
use
these
funds
that
continuing
tasks
in
the
future
and
now
Hudson?
You
have
any
opinion
on
this
yeah.
H
Thinking
about
this
recently
I
kind
of
came
to
the
conclusion
that
my
opinion
on
this
is
that
we
there's
only
two
funders
besides
us,
so
so
in
total
there
are
three
funding
groups
for
prague,
pal,
the
cat
herders,
but
the
other
get
coin,
funding,
aetherium
foundation
and
bit
fly,
which
is
the
ether
mine,
pole,
slash
yeah,
his
name
is
Peter
is
the
main
guy
who
really
funded
it.
So
I
think
that,
because
there's
three
entities
we
divide,
the
CL
are
matching
funds
by
three
and
we
say
aetherium
foundation.
H
A
A
H
A
A
G
That
time,
yeah
yeah
just
know
that
I'm
looking
at
this
I,
don't
think
the
amount
we
currently
have
can
pay
back.
Everyone,
because
there's
one
contributor,
I'm
not
going
to
say
the
name,
but
they
contributed
10,750
died
and
we
have
13,000
died
remaining.
If
we,
if
we
paid
that
person
back,
it
won't
leave
enough
to
pay
the
rest
of
the
contributors.
So
oh
I.
H
A
Okay,
so
yeah
I'm
happy
to
work
through
that
math
and
seeing
like
yeah.
What's
you
know
how
much
day
they
all
want
to
get
back
and
I
can
even
reach
out
to
I'm,
not
sure
how
possible
it
is
to
reach
out
to
like
Atlantic,
crypto
and
and
tell
them.
You
know
they
represent
sort
of
this
disproportionate
sparked,
and
you
know
they
want
to
receive
like
the
bulk
of
the
refund
or
the
device.
A
Cool
so
yeah
I'll
coordinate
with
you
offline
Hudson,
but
I
think
it's
probably
worth
asking
them.
You
know
if
they're
also
like
a
business
and
the
rest
of
the
of
the
funders
or
like
individuals
that
they
have
are
they
willing
to
like
give
a
part
of
their
refund
back
and
split
it
across
the
community
and
stuff
like
that,
yep.
I
First
thing:
I
want
to
say
that
we
are
going
to
set
a
great
example
of
community
funding
and
returning
the
money,
which
is
extra
and
I'm
very
happy
about
it.
Like
people
almost
send
us,
the
double
amount
that
we
needed
and
we
are
able
to
return
back
the
money,
and
the
second
thing
that
I
wanted
to.
You
know
just
quick
check
on
things
like
sometimes
back.
We
worked
on
Nasus
wallet
like
I,
believe
a
bread
and
not
sure
elaine
was
there
or
not
like
these.
A
D
I'm
sure
it
could
be
myself
Lane
and
myself
worked
on
it.
We
had
some
issues
with
the
nurse
itself,
but
in
the
end
we
managed
to
get
some
reputation
from
the
option
that
they
were
having
at
the
end,
were
unable
to
withdraw
any
funds
from
the
theorem
quatre.
It
is
just
because
the
time
device
I
just
put
so
my
own
money
in,
but
we
did
get
some
reputation
and
since
then
it's
just
kind
of
said,
Otto.
D
E
A
D
A
Yeah
so
I
just
shared
it
in
the
chat.
There
were
a
couple
like
initial
subscriptions,
I
think
there's
still
one
guy
a
rice,
who's
giving
us
my
died
a
month
and
then,
oh
and
I
think
actually
Kevin
awoke.
He
is
giving
us
10
died
a
month,
so
I
mean
there's
like
a
minimal
amount
of
funding.
That's
coming
in
through
there,
but
yeah.
That's
I
think
it
probably
needs
like
a
good,
a
good
rework
to
just
explain
that
it's
about
the
catheters-
and
this
is
like
a
general
place.
We
should
donate.