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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #47
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Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/148
A
Hello,
everyone:
this
is
ethereum
cathedrals,
meeting
47
and
I'm
your
host
pooja
ranjan.
Today.
We
are
also
joined
by
sam
richards
from
ethereum.org
team
to
discuss
the
first
item
on
agenda
so
without
a
delay.
Let's
just
get
in
I'm
going
to
share
the
link
in
the
chat
for
people
to
refer
here.
A
A
A
Yeah,
so
so
we
are
recently
looking
into
upgrading
the
website
and
making
the
information
more
visible
for
people
and
can
be
of
more
use
like
we
are
curating
a
lot
of
information
that
is
related
to
the
website
of
sorry,
the
network
upgrade
and
the
important
proposals
that
undergo
these
upgrades
and
other
stuff.
A
So
the
idea
of
having
a
page
is
to
pull
all
the
main
net
related
information
in
one
place
like
the
details
of
network
upgrade
for
ethereum
one
I
mean
like
so
far.
We
have
been
heavily
engaged
with
ethereum
one,
so
that's
it,
maybe
in
future,
if
ethereum
2.0
undergoes
any
upgrade,
we
will
look
into
that
as
well
and
to
curate
resources,
meeting
notes,
availability
in
so
the
idea
is
to
increase
the
reach
of
the
content
and
community
participation.
A
The
proposal
that
we
have
is
like
to
get
a
sub
domain,
or
maybe
a
page
at
ethereum,
all
that
can
be
managed
by
the
cad
herders,
maybe
ethereum,
dot,
org,
slash,
ech
or
ech
dot,
ethereum
dot,
org
and
I'm
open
to
suggestion
here
and
what
we
can
propose
like
what
we
would
be
doing
in
with
that
page
or
domain
or
whatever
it
is
we'll
try
to
keep
the
information
related
information
up
to
date.
A
All
the
meeting
notes
like
make
sure
that
they
are
pointed
towards
the
right
place
like
relevant
meetings,
algorithm
meetings,
eipap
or
whatever,
and
whatever
materials
that
we
do.
I
mean
curate
resources
about
the
proposals,
we'll
bring
that
the
penny
series
that
we
have
started
recently.
The
video
series
about
education
of
any
proposal
so
yeah.
That's
the
basic
idea.
B
C
Yeah,
so
that's
I
guess
what
I
can
help
give
some
context
on,
or
just
like
give
some
color
to
the
options
there.
First,
hey
everybody.
My
name
is
sam
for
those
of
you
who
I
haven't,
met
nice
to
meet
you,
so
I'm
the
lead
developer
on
ethereum.org
and
what
we
focus
on,
as
you
might
imagine,
is
a
lot
of
just
like
onboarding
and
educational
content
for
people
in
the
ethereum
community.
C
If
you
go
to
the
site
and
poke
around
you'll,
see
we've
added
a
lot
of
just
like
community
driven
documentation,
primarily
for
dap
developers
and
people
just
looking
to
get
the
foundations
of
ethereum,
but
I
think
we're
definitely
interested
in
and
open
to
like
expanding
content
into
like
network
upgrades
and
more
research
resources
for
like
client
and
protocol
developers.
C
So
I
think
there's
definitely
potential
for
alignment
here.
I
think
the
question
is
like:
how
do
you
folks
want
to
manage
the
website
and
manage
your
content
so
to
give
a
little
more
context,
like
puja,
reached
out
to
me
yesterday,
and
we
chatted
a
bit
on
discord
about
a
potential
for
a
sub
domain
for
the
ethereum
cat
herder
site?
C
B
C
The
grants
giving
organization
within
the
ethereum
foundation
so
I'll
link
to
that
real,
quick
so
like,
if
you
guys,
are
interested
in
like
maintaining
your
own
site,
ideally
getting
a
sub
domain
on
ethereum.org.
Like
that's
the
route,
I
would
recommend.
C
I
think
another
route
would
I
kind
of
propose
to
puja,
because
I
think
there's
room
to
just
like
reduce
overhead
and
get
a
lot
of
the
benefits
you're
looking
for
is
to
like,
potentially
just
put
the
content
straight
on
the
like
core
ethereum.org
domain,
because
that's
a
site
like
I
have
a
lot
of
authority
and
control
to
say
like
yeah.
Let's
do
it
give
you
the
thumbs
up
for
contacts
like
that
website
is
completely
open
source.
C
It's
on
github
like
we
are
trying
to
generate
a
community
to
contribute
content
and,
like
continually
keep
it
up
to
date.
We
put
a
lot
of
work
into
just
like
making
the
process
to
contribute
and
edit
like
as
smooth
as
possible,
and
I
think
the
pros
of
this
potential
approach
is
obviously
like.
You
would
get
content
on
ethereum.org.
C
So
you
get
like
the
credibility
and
the
seo
authority
that
comes
with
that.
You
get
a
lot
of
eyeballs
from
the
existing
traffic
we
get
just
for
context.
We
had
over
half
a
million
visitors
last
month
to
the
site
and
you
potentially
get
help
from
like
the
development
and
design
resources.
We
have
like
it's
a
pretty
small
team
right
now.
It's
basically
me
and
our
content
designer
ryan,
but
I
think
we're
getting
buy-in
this
coming
year
to
kind
of
like
build
out
that
team
a
little
more
so
I'm
hoping
we'll
have
more
development
resources.
C
So
I
think
those
are
the
pros
of
that
kind
of
approach.
I
think
the
cons
for
you
all
to
consider
is
just
like,
potentially
like
less
control
over
the
overall
site
is
like.
If
you
have
your
dedicated
website,
you
have
your
own
developers,
you
guys
can
do
whatever
you
want.
Obviously,
and
if
you
want
like
really
custom
functionality
and
just
like
complicated
features,
we
might
not
have
like
the
bandwidth
at
any
given
time
to
like
build
out
some
special
design
or
like
api
or
like
web3
functionality.
Who
knows
so?
I
think.
B
To
like
build
that
out
myself
and
then
do
like
a
pr
or
something
potentially.
C
Yeah
so
like
our
website's
built
with
gatsby,
which
is
a
react
framework,
so
it
supports
markdown
content
so
like
if
a
lot
of
your
content
is
just
like
able
to
be
added
in
markdown
files
like
I'd,
be
happy
to
help
like
build
a
template
for
that
section
of
the
site.
To
like
give
you
a
custom
layout-
and
maybe
you
know
like
a
table
of
contents
or
like
navigation
for
what
you
guys
specifically
need
or
there's.
B
Doing
my
own
stuff,
but
it's
mainly
like
the
the
biggest
concern
for
me
with
doing
that
would
be
like
I
just
would
like
to
you
know
sort
of
have
oversight.
I
mean
I'm
sure
that
you
would
but
like.
I
would
want
to
know
like
how
the
oversight
would
work
so
that
we
can
so
I
can
stay
within
the
framework
of
like
the
way
that
the
you
know
I
I
don't
want
to
go
turn
the
color
scheme
or
something
on
on
my
side.
That
makes.
C
It
totally
yeah,
I
don't
have
like
a
good
answer
for
that
like
this
is
something
I
think
we've
like
talked
about
trying
to
do
of
like
what
potential
collaborations
could
we
do
with
projects
in
the
community
on
content?
C
You
know
whistles
on
the
site,
but
I
think
overall,
like
we're
pretty
open
to
like
a
particular
section
of
the
website
having
its
own
look
and
feel
as
long
as
it
is
like,
I
don't
know,
somewhat
unified.
So
it
would
definitely
be
a
balancing
act
of
figuring
that
out,
but
yeah.
If
you
have
suggestions
on
how
to
go
about
it
or
yeah
like
want
to
look
into
that
further
I'd
be
happy
to
happy
to
talk
more
about
it.
Yeah.
B
I'm
definitely
good
in
the
having
a
spot
on
the
website
to
just
like
throw
our
stuff.
I
think
that
would
be
great.
So
are
we?
Are
you
on
the
discord.
A
I
think
william
has
released
his
hand
he
william
do
you
want
to
say
something
here.
D
Yeah
yeah,
I
do
have
a
few
questions.
What's.
First
of
all,
thanks
I've
actually
contributed
to
ethereum.org.
You
guys
gotta
get.
D
D
Hey,
what's
the
connection
between
the
ethereum.org
website
and
the
foundation
like
what
nature.
D
C
B
C
One
of
those
teams,
so
our
full-time,
like
our
full-time
people,
get
paid
by
the
foundation,
then
we
have
like
a
variety
of
part-time
contributors
and
volunteer
contributors,
but
ultimately
yeah
like
the
ef,
does
control
the
dns,
that's
behind
ethereum.org
and
it
controls.
D
So
there
has
been
a
concern
since
we
got
started
even
of
keeping
a
very
clear
separation
between
ech
and
the
ef.
So
I
think
something
that
we
would
really
need
to
consider
is
if
we're
like.
You
know,
in
light
of
that,
if
it's
possible
or
not-
and
I
want
to
say
also
that,
like
I'm
real,
like
you
know,
I'm
thrilled
by
the
offer
being
able
to
have
a
part
of
the
ethereum.org
website
would
not
only
give
us
more
like
more
of
a
public
spotlight.
C
D
C
Foundation,
it's
the
website
for
ethereum
granted.
It
still
does
control
like
and
have
a
big
like
arm
in,
like
the
resources
that
go
towards
it.
So
definitely
something
to
consider
yeah.
D
C
C
Page
for
me,
it'd
be
more
like
if
you
guys
want
to
add
resources
on
like
what
to
know
about
this
eip,
and
we
have
some
like
subtitle
or
italics
of.
Like
you
know,
this
content
was
provided
thanks
to
the
ethereum
cat
herders,
like
linking
back
to
your
core
site.
I
don't
know
like
we'd
still
again
have
to
figure
out
those
details,
but
I
do
want
to
say
up
front
yeah,
like
would
definitely
prefer
to
avoid
any
heavily
like.
This
is
a
theorem
cat,
herders
content
more.
C
D
D
Now
I
think,
one
of
the
major
reasons
behind
the
division
of
the
ef
and
the
cat
herders
is
really
a
public
perception
thing,
because
if
we're
involved
with
coordinating
hard
forks
and
people
perceive
even
like
day,
one
like
just
got
into
crypto
people
perceive
the
cat
herders
as
being
part
of
the
foundation.
So
then
it
just
sort
of
perpetuates
this
masternode
kind
of
theory,
which
is
like
you
know,
the
foundation
controls
everything.
D
So,
like
I
mean
you,
don't
have
to
convince
me
that,
like
you
know,
vitalik
doesn't
give
you
calls
at
three
in
the
morning
saying
that
you
need
to
change
like
the
linked
list
on
the
developer
page,
but
it's
really
like
a
lot
of.
It
is
just
that
theater
branding
of
just
like
making
sure
people
get
that
that
were
something
else.
D
In
light
of
that,
actually
one
of
the
options
you
said,
I
actually
really
struck
me
as
a
very
good
option,
which
is
in
terms
of
hard-fought
coordination,
or
maybe
some
of
the
eip
work
or
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
sort
of
curate
and
have
our
hands
and
if
there
could
be
a
page
of
content
like
you
were
saying,
which
would
be
completely
ethereum.org
themed,
but
is
sort
of
the
information
that
we
curate
and
then,
like
you
said
something
on
the
bottom
or
at
the
top,
just
saying
like
information
brought
by
cat
herders
in
addition
to
us
keeping
our
own
domain
and
our
homepage.
D
C
Yeah,
I
agree.
I
suspect
the
best
approach
is
yes
somewhat
of
a
balance
between
the
two
of
like
the
more
evergreen
content.
That's
just
like
very
information
based
education
based,
like
put
it
on
ethereum.org.
If
you
guys
want
happy
to
work
on
prs
together
that
content,
you
know
we
can
say
hey.
This
was
provided
by
ethereum
cat
herders,
here's
their
site.
If
you
want
to
check
it
out,
that
gives
you
guys,
like
the
referral
and
the
credibility
benefits
for
the
more
like
yeah,
like
coordinating
an
actual
upgrade
to
keep
that
independence.
C
D
Is
there
a
possibility
for
some
dynamic
content
like
the
one
thing
I'm
thinking
of
right
now?
Is
we
tend
to
have
a
hand
in
some
level
of
the
hard
fork
or
network
upgrade
coordination,
so
just
being
able
to
say
like
next
hard
fork
is
these
are
the
ips
that
are
being
included.
These
are
the
test
nets
or
ephemeral,
test
nets,
they're
being
run
on
which
would
need
to
update
every
hard
fork.
Something
like
that
is
also
within
the
realm
of
possibility.
A
So
I
would
like
to
add
some
more
context
like
why
we
are
looking
into
that
kind
of
page
or
domain
or
something
so,
let's
forget
the
idea
of
having
domain
as
of
now,
because,
as
we
discussed
like
it,
it
seems
to
me
like
having
a
page
would
be
easier
option
to
go
ahead
with
so
this
group.
The
cad
headed
group,
is
basically
a
group
of
volunteers
and
we
are
funded
based
on
the
tasks
that
that
that
are
being
performed
by
this
group
and
this
funds
that
we
are
receiving.
A
Mostly
it's
coming
through
some
or
the
other
grants
the
molecular,
and
we
are
also
looking
for
some
esp
grant.
So,
yes,
we
are
very
closely
associated
to
them
like
in
terms
of
funding
and
the
tasks
that
we
do.
We
respond
back
to
them,
so
that
was
the
idea
of
having
it,
but
what
I
think
that
the
difficult
part
would
be
if
we
want
to
go
ahead
with
just
one
page,
and
that
is
network.
You
know
upgrade
specific
the
other
task
that
is
performed
for
communication
and
coordination.
A
It
would
be
really
hard
to
put
in
you
know
some
categories
like:
if
we
have
the
network
upgrade
page,
we
would
be
missing
the
contents
of
educational
resources.
Like
you
know,
the
video
says
the
penis
that
I
was
talking
about.
Like
we
talk,
we
bring
in
one
author,
we
discuss
about
the
proposal,
good
good
and
bad
about
that
and
ask
some
questions.
So
these
are
all
good
resources
and
whatever
resources
we
are
making,
we
are
funded
by
the
moloch
or
the
esp
people,
so
it's
all
open
for
community.
A
A
There
is
one
file
that
we
keep
on
updating
on
a
regular
basis
and
that's
how
we
try
to
get
this
thing
updated
and
something
similar
can
be
done
with
ethereum.org
I
mean
we
would
not
like
to
you
know
cloud
the
web,
the
page
with
our
you
know,
design
and
style.
We'll
try
to
be
in
the
theme
of
whatever
is
ethereum.
I
mean
ethereum.org
theme.
Is
there
simple
text
just
information
piece
and
make
them
available
for
community.
D
A
Okay,
okay,
then,
let's,
let's
try
to
keep
it
in
separate
ways
like
try
to
answer
one
question
first
like
if
this
is
at
all
possible
and
then
we
will
think
about,
should
we
have
it
in
parallel
or
we
should
just
completely
abandon
the
other
side
and
come
to
this
thing.
So
while
we
have
sam,
so
I
would
like
to
get
more
on
that.
So
is
this
something
which
is
possible
and
can
be
done
like
if
we
would
move
in
that
direction?
What
is
the
chances
of
visibility?
C
For
sure
I
mean
that
sounds
very
doable
to
me.
I
think
again,
it
depends
on
like
the
specific
content
like
we
would
probably
want
to
think
through.
Just
like
the
information
architecture
of
the
site
like
I'll
share
like
here's,
a
basic
landing
page,
we
have
explaining
what
eips
are
and
puja,
I
think
even
helped
create
this
page.
C
So
this
is
an
example
of
like
using
a
static,
markdown
file
to
generate
an
informational
page
like,
and
we
could
potentially
expand
this
as
like
a
whole
directory
of
the
website.
You
guys
write
up
some
article
or
just
like
educational
piece
on
a
specific
eip.
What's
the
status
of
it
like
that
could
be
a
very
like
easy
and
goal
aligned,
like
collaboration
to
add
to
the
site
when
it
gets
to
yeah.
C
More
like
this
is
like
the
ethereum
cat
herder
is
announcing
our
plans
for
this
network
upgrade,
like
probably
less,
of
like
a
relevant
fit
for
something
to
live
on
ethereum.org,
and
I
think
that
goes
to
william's
point
of
just
like
it
sounds
like
for
that
type
of
content
like
it
probably
would
make
sense
for
you
folks
to
either
have
your
own
blog
or
website
or.
However,
you
want
to
like
handle
that
type
of
content.
A
So
we
already
have
a
blog
separately
like
we
have
cat
address
medium.
I
have
shared
a
document
in
the
chat
if
you
go
to
the
website
layout
section
of
that
kind
of
drafted,
the
navigation
like
on
a
very
high
level,
so
it
talks
about
like
what
would
be
the
basic
content
that
we
are
planning
to
add
in
there.
So
this
is
mostly
coming
from
the
ethereum
mainnet
as
of
now
ethereum
1.0
chain,
and
the
contents
in
my
mind,
are
completely
relevant
and,
as
I
mentioned,
that
it
would
be
updated.
A
So
I
find
that
this
is
something
that
can
live
forever.
I
mean
it's
not
something
about
the
one
section
about
the
members
and
all.
If
that
is
something
not
acceptable
or
beyond
the
rules
of
the
ethereum.org,
we
can
just
remove
that
part
that
was
initially
designed
for
cathedrals
having
separate
websites,
but
that
can
be
removed.
A
And
about
you
know
talking
about
separate
contents,
we
already
have
a
medium
blog
and
we
publish
different
blogs,
so
we
can
have
a
particular
section
there
on
that
page
about
you
know,
catheterist
blog
and
in
that
blog
we
will
be
talking
about
which
is
like
something
specific
to
catalyst,
say,
for
example,
if
we
are
having
some
community
meeting
or
something
like
that,
so
we
can
have
it.
You
know
limited
to
that
section.
C
Right
so
just
to
give
my
two
cents
after
quickly
looking
at
it,
like,
I
think
you
know,
network
upgrade
section
information
about
pass
upgrades
like
links
to
where
discussion
is
happening
about
current
upgrades.
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
potentially
add
to
ethereum.org,
like
the
resources
section.
C
Giving
explanations
of
you
know
like
the
fee
market
with
eip
one
five,
five,
nine
peep
and
e
potentially
makes
a
lot
of
sense
where
I
like
yeah,
see
more
a
reason
for
yeah,
like
maintaining
your
own
medium
blog
or
custom
website
is
more
like
meeting
notes
like.
I
don't
think
we
want
to
start
a
precedent
where,
like
every
team
or
dao,
wants
to
start
posting
their
medium
notes
on
ethereum.org
to
like
increase
their
exposure
or
what
have
you.
D
A
A
A
C
C
Right
so
that
could
yeah
potentially
work
really
well,
if,
like
currently
they're,
just
living
on
a
github
repo,
essentially
yeah,
I
think
again,
like
whatever
is
the
more
like
just
general
resources
and
like
specific,
or
I
guess
not
specific
to
any
one
project
is
where
I
would
recommend
we
at
least
like
focus
to
start
the
ones
that
are
less
known.
Like
I
don't
know
putting
a
page
with
like
the
members
of
the
ethereum
cat
herders.
That
sounds
getting.
A
C
You
know
your
website
of
like
hey.
This
was,
like
you
know,
built
thanks
to
the
molecule
grants
by
the
ethereum
cat
herders
stuff,
like
that,
but
any
like
specific
pages
focused
on,
like
your
blog
post,
your
newsletter
like
we
try
to
avoid
kind
of
like
endorsing
any
one
initiative.
There.
A
Right,
I'm
totally
fine
by
that.
So
do
you
think
this
is
something
doable
and
you
know
my
concern.
There
is
like
right
now
we
are
doing
it
managing
it
with
our
cat
holders
rip
or
get
a
repo,
so
that
is
completely
okay
with
us
like
whenever
we
want
to
change.
We
do
that
these
things
in
my
you
know,
experience
keeps
changing
bi-weekly,
if
not
like
weekly.
We
we
have
to
update
these
stuff
bi-weekly.
So
how
do
you
think
if,
at
all
we
go,
this
route
would
be
managed
like?
A
Should
we
get
access
to
that
particular
page
or
maybe
in
github
ripple
wherever
it
is,
or
we
have
to
create
pull
requests
every
time?
So
how
do
we
think
we
can
go
about
it.
C
Right
still
undefined
at
this
point,
I
think
it
would
start
by,
like
you
guys,
would
open
pull
requests
into
our
repo.
So
that
would
be
like
forking
our
repository
opening
pull
requests.
I
think
we
could
get
to
a
point
where,
like
you
know,
we
give
you
folks
right
access
to
like
certain
files,
so
like
you
could
merge
at
will
and
then,
when
we
actually
like
deploy
the
site.
That
would
need
some
quick,
final
review,
but
in
general
I
mean
I
like
to
think
we
move
pretty
fast.
A
Yep
sounds
good
to
me.
Alita,
do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
it
because
I
know
you
are
working
on
improving
the
website
currently
and
if
we
go,
if
we
have
to
go
by
this
content
or
the
things
that
we
have
we
are
already
discussing,
do
you
think
it
is
something
possible
like
if
there
is
any
estimate
or
something
you
would
like
to
share.
B
With
us
yeah,
I
think
ultimately,
we
just
need
a
little
bit
more
information
and
a
little
bit
more
of
like
a
fleshed-out
plan.
In
terms
of
you
know
what
content
we're
going
to
want
to
bring
off
and
keep
on
or
what
or
if
we
just
have
everything
even
on
our
site
and
then
just
also
put
it
like
copied
onto
ethereum
dot
org.
So
I
think,
having
more
information
about
that
would
be
good.
Regarding
the
like
the
deployment
and
stuff.
Also
just
kind
of
looking
at
the
code
is
probably
the
best
next
step.
C
Cool
yeah
folks,
sorry,
I
gotta
hop
off.
I
got
another
call
but
yeah
again,
like
I'm
happy
to
pull
some
info
together,
just
like
our
current
deployment
contribution
process
how
that
works.
I
think,
ultimately,
though
yeah
it's
kind
of
like
on
you
folks
to
decide
yeah
just
like
how
you
want
to
control
your
content
right,
like
do
you
do
like
essentially
give
away
the
rights
to
the
educational
resource,
like
our
repo
is
open
source.
The
content
is
creative
commons.
C
So
what
content
like
you
want
to
own
as
the
cat
herders
versus
like
contribute
to
the
community
and
potentially
get
more
exposure?
How
you
want
to
manage
the
custom
domain
yourself
or
just
like
put
everything
on
medium
and
put
the
rest
on
ethereum.org?
I
don't
know,
I
think,
there's
plenty
of
considerations.
You
guys
know
better
than
me,
but
yeah
happy
to
help
make
whatever
we
want
happen.
At
the
end
of
the
day,.
A
Sure,
thank
you
so
much
sam
for
taking
our
time
I'll,
be
in
touch
with
you
to
inform
you
how
we
would
like
to
proceed,
but
I'm
sure
that
if
we
go
by
the
route
of
having
at
least
one
page
of
even
if
it
is
a
copy
on
ethereum.org
I'll
update
you
about
that.
C
Yeah-
and
I
guess
just
one
more
thing
like
if
you
folks
do
want
to
say,
host
all
the
content
on
your
site
yourself
like
and
just
like,
for
potential
additional
exposure,
since
we
have
a
hefty
amount
of
incoming
traffic
day
to
day
like
we
could
potentially
set
up
some
mirror,
where
we
also
show
the
page
on
ethereum.org
and
then
like
set
some
canonical
to
your
website.
So
we
don't
like
blow
up
your
seo
traffic
or
anything
crazy,
but
yeah,
nice
meeting.
You
thanks
for
having
me.
B
Okay,
so
now
I
guess
moving
on
to
the
actual
progress
that's
been
being
made
to
the
website,
because
I
know
that
that's
number
two
on
the
agenda,
basically
not
too
much
like
since
the
last
minute.
I
haven't,
really
worked
on
it
too
much.
I
did
convert
it
from
react
to
gatsby,
because
I
noticed
that
gatsby's
pretty
good.
It
has
some
good
options,
so
I'm
working
on
that
I'm
a
little
bit
like
blocked
in
the
sense
that
I
don't
really
have
a
plan
to
like
do
so.
B
I'm
just
kind
of
like
twiddling
my
thumbs
a
little
bit.
So
I
think
it
would
be
really
good
if
we
sort
of
maybe
plan
if
we
created
a
plan
where
we
just
sat
down
and
just
brainstormed
like
an
hour
or
two
over
a
weekend
or
something
and
then.
D
B
Yeah
that'd
be
awesome.
I
would
love
that
because
I'm
just
it's
just
really
hard
to
like
be
I'm
just
I'm
just
not
a
very
creative
person.
I
guess
so.
B
I
just
I'm
looking
at
the
code
and
I'm
like
whatever
so
yeah,
I
think
that'd
be
great
and
then
finally
like
I'm
finding
it
hard
to
sort
of
like
get
motivated,
because
I
haven't
like
done
that
much
work
in
the
past
like
four
weeks
and
I'm
finding
it
kind
of
hard
to
get
motivated
but
like
if
I
get
like
so
I
would
like
to
request
funding
in
some
like
capacity.
B
It
doesn't
have
to
be
anything
crazy,
but
because
I
think
if
I
did
have
funding,
I
would
feel
significantly
more
motivated
just
because
I
guess
that's
how
I
work
but
yeah.
So
I
was
wondering
if
that's
an
option
and.
A
Yep
totally
so
I
was
about
to
announce
this
later
in
the
meeting
today.
We
are
like
in
process
of
getting
that
funding
the
grant
from
molotow
the
grant
has
been
approved
and
we
had
requested.
I
mean
we
kind
of
have
made
some
room
for
website
updating
there
so
yep.
That
is
there
in
the
plan.
B
Well,
good,
that
sounds
awesome
yeah.
We
can
discuss
that
further,
but
that
definitely
makes
me
feel
more
motivated,
so
cool.
I'm
excited.
A
Great
thank
you
so
I
mean
if
william
and
anita
and
if
we
would
like
to
propose
some
time
and
we
can
meet
next
to
discuss
on
this
website
thing.
Maybe
in
the
channel
discord
channel,
we
can
talk
about
it
further
and
decide
on
a
meeting
and
see
where
we
go
sounds
good.
A
Moving
on
the
next
item
on
agenda
is
the
meeting
notes
update
so
just
as
a
reminder
for
the
people
in
the
pool.
Let's
let
us
know
your
availability
if
you
are
already
scheduled
for
a
meeting
notes,
and
you
think
you
can't
complete
it
on
time.
A
We
would
like
to
have
the
pr
up
for
notes
created
in
like
three
days
and
if
something
is
like
a
very
long
meeting
or
complex
discussion,
five
days
are
fine,
so
we
would
try
to
be
in
that
so
that
we
make
the
notes
available
for
community
and
usable
as
well
in
this
section,
particularly
I'm
hoping
to
get
people
from
the
note
school
who
are
writing
documenting
the
notes
and
may
be
able
to
summarize
what
happened
with
that
meeting.
A
Now
that
is
done,
we
would
like
to
resume
the
task
of
reaching
out
to
author
and
take
the
appropriate
take
the
eip
to
the
appropriate
status
that
it
needs
to
be
in,
in
that
I
have
reached
out
to
the
author
of
eip
two
four,
eight
one
that
is
at
a
66
request
identifier.
This
is
currently
under
discussion
in
all
code
meeting
and
get
and
other
clients
are
talking
about
it
like
how
we
should
proceed
about
this
proposal,
so
I
reached
out
to
the
author
and
they
have
created
a
pull
request
earlier.
A
So
I
just
want
to
let
the
other
categories
know
about
it
that
we
have.
We
are
resuming
this
task
and
if
anybody
finds
time
and
reach
out
to
author,
that
would
be
great.
A
We
have
one
excel
sheet
that
we
started,
sometimes
back,
I'm
going
to
share
the
link
here,
it's
basically
about
like
whoever
from
the
categories
are
reaching
out
to
any
of
the
authors,
just
list
your
name
against
that
proposal
and
whatever
is
the
progress.
I
don't
think
that
this
sheet
is
very
much
up
to
date.
We
may
have
to
look
into
that
again
and
from
here
we
can.
You
know,
reach
out
to
people.
A
B
I'd
have
a
bit
of
a
tangential
thing,
but
I
know
that
we
were
talking
about
previously,
like
it
had
been
okay
or
maybe
we
were
going
to
start
interviewing
like
startups
as
well,
just
because,
like
in
the
weeks
that
we
don't
have
eips,
so
I've
actually
been
like
talking
to
one
person
who
might
eventually
I
mean
not
like
anytime
soon,
probably,
but
but
she
might
eventually
want
to
come
on
with
her
company.
B
So
is
that
something
that
we're
going
to
endorse?
You
think.
A
I
am
not
sure
about
that.
Like
I
don't
know
a
few
weeks
back,
we
were
also
approached
by
another
project
in
our
discord
itself
like
they
were,
launching
the
you
know
their
project
about
providing
node
services
and
something
so
did
a
reach
out
to
us,
and
I
had
a
meeting
with
that.
I
wanted
to
come
about
that
meeting
as
well.
I
I'm
not
sure
this
is
something
that
the
group
has
to
decide
like
if
they
would
like
to
endorse
or
if
they
would
like
to.
A
You
know
kind
kind
of
getting
sponsorship
on
the
newsletter
that
we
publish
or
something
like
that.
I
mean
I'm
open
to
suggestions
here.
B
I
think
it
would
be
good.
I
think
that
not
all
you
know
companies
or
whatever
would
need
to
be
sponsored,
and
I
think
generally
like,
if
I
think,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
being
sponsored
as
well.
I
think
there's
I
mean
there's
only
good
things
from
making
sponsorship
money
or
whatever,
but
like
I
know
I
feel
like
it
would
maybe
diversify
the
podcast
a
bit
and
add
value.
In
my
opinion,.
A
B
That's
a
really
good
point,
and
I
mean
I
would
I
would
I
guess
my
response
to
that
would
be.
Alternatively,
we
could
always
create
a
different.
You
know
like
sub
domain,
as
it
were,
of
the
podcast
that
does.
I
just
feel
like
it's
a
it's
a
thing
that,
like
community
people
in
the
community,
would
enjoy
watching
versus
necessarily
like
diluting
the
purpose
of
peeping,
the
ip,
the
pipa.
D
I'd
plus
one
the
the
spinoff
idea
like
I
do
think
that
people
neep
is
actually
really
starting
to
get
traction
at
being
something
that
broadcasts
news
so
to
speak
on
the
protocol
layer-
and
I
I
would
I
do
see
some
value
in
branching
out
from
strictly
eips,
but
only
hardly
like
I
mean
if
alexa
would
want
to
come
on
and
speak
about
regenesis,
which
technically
is
not
an
eip,
or
at
least
it
isn't.
Yet.
I
could
see
value
in
that
because
it
does
strike
me
as
the
same
kind
of
content
as
eips.
D
I
definitely
agree
with
your
point
elita
that
there
is
value
in
having
something
like
that,
like
that's
being
put
forth
to
the
community.
I
also
do
think
that
people
has
like
really
come
into
its
brand
on
the
like
protocol
layer,
though
so
I
mean
that's
not
a
hard
and
fast
rule.
There
are
companies
that
operate
on
the
protocol
layer
and
have
a
lot
to
say
about
the
protocol
layer.
That
would
make
sense
to
me
and
peep
and
eat,
even
if
it's
not
about
eip
per
se,
but
that's
just
my
two
cents,
I'm
having.
D
A
No
no
worries
thanks
for
that
yeah
I
mean
like.
I
think
I
am
also
in
line
with
the
williams
start
like
if
we
add
things
which
are
like
in
line
with
the
main
net
or
the
development
that
is
going
on.
Maybe
even
if
it
is
not
related
to
any
particular
proposal
would
make
sense.
But
for
the
other
committee
projects,
maybe
we
can
think
of
some
other
section
segment
that
we
can
start.
A
B
B
It's
like
not
as
on
a
regular
schedule
like
you
know
what
I
mean
like
basically,
just
like
a
really
bad,
like
podcast
as
it
were.
I
mean
I
don't
know
bad,
but
like
just
kind
of
like
all
over
the
place,
because
I
mean,
I
think,
having
the
ability
and
like
a
place
to
do
that
when
it
becomes
like
pertinent,
is
something
that's
valuable
for
for
a
team
and
then
keeping
of
course,
the
eip
stuff,
consistent
and
well,
it's
organized
by
puja.
B
D
I
think
there's
room
for
both
like
I.
I
definitely
see
like
a
distinct
vector
for
both
of
those
I
mean.
The
truth
is
what
you're
pitching
now
leader
actually
really
reminds
me
of
where
I
thought
people
was
going
in
the
beginning
and
yeah.
I
liked
that
idea
then
like
it
now
too,
I
I
think
it
definitely
has
its
place
so
yeah.
I
I
definitely
come
in
on
the
spin-off
idea.
A
So
yeah,
maybe
anita,
if
you
can,
you
know
I
mean
my
my
proposal
here
would
be
you
know
if
we
can
draft
a
kind
of
layout
how
we
would
want
to
proceed
with
this
different
section.
A
Maybe
we
can
think
about
it
and,
as
I
mentioned
that
with
the
molop
grant,
we
may
have
room
for
adding
some
new
initiative
in
2021
I
mean
I
would
love
to
discuss
what
people
think
about
how
we
can
increase
our
contribution
I'll,
be
explaining
the
part
in
the
in
a
later
part
of
molar
grant
of
what
are
the
grants
that
what.
C
A
The
next
meeting
was
one
five,
five
nine
implementers
meeting,
so
the
notes
were
done
by
griffin
thanks
elita
you
for
the
heads
up
that
you
could
not
be
able
to
do
that.
It
was
a
contribution
by
griffin
and
he
is
from
the
snake,
sharma
group.
So
a
shout
out
for
snake
sharma
group.
There
will
be
no
funding
request
for
this
meeting.
It's
a
contribution
from
their
team.
A
A
The
next
meeting
is
on
17th
december.
It's
not
after
four
weeks,
it's
just
after
the
two
weeks,
so
we
may
have
to
look
into
the
notes.
Part
I
think
edson
is
scheduled
for
that.
A
Next
one
is
all
coder
meeting
william.
Do
you
have
anything
to
share
here.
D
Yes,
yes,
I
do.
I
I
do
understand
that
probably
your
message
before
about
trying
to
get
the
notes
out
on
time
is
partially
directed
at
me.
I
have
not
pushed
the
notes
yet
because
I
have
not
finished
yet.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
been
this.
D
I
should
have
it
up
before
the
next
meeting,
though
I'm
about
an
hour
in
out
of
an
hour
and
35
minutes
of
meeting,
and
this
is
actually
a
new
record
for
me.
I
am
still
on
point
1a
1a
when
I
think
went
over
an
hour
even
because
I'm
like
again,
I'm
like
59
minutes
and
they
haven't
had
a
conclusion
or
not
even
close,
hitting
a
conclusion
yet.
So
I
can
tell
you
about
the
first
hour
of
the
meeting.
D
The
first
hour
of
the
meeting
was
dedicated
to
sort
of
just
like
a
thorny
bundle
of
issues
that
that
they've
run
into
with
the
berlin
upgrade
one
of
the
eips
that
has
been
pushed
very
hard
for
the
berlin
upgrade
is
eip
2929,
I'm
gonna
skip
going
into
technical
detail,
because
I'd
have
to
pull
up
the
notes
and
we'll
probably
give
myself
a
headache
just
like
trying
to
get
down
into
everything
here.
D
The
thing
with
2929
by
itself
is
there
is
a
theory
that
there
may
be
some
contracts
that
it
could
break
so
because
of
that
they
made
a
eip
2930,
which
was
supposed
to
take
care
of
some
of
those
issues.
But
then,
even
after
29
30
there
was
in
theory,
maybe
some
other
things
that
would
break
so
they
made
eip
2972.
Maybe
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
so
now,
there's
just
sort
of
this
feature
creep.
That's
been
coming
along,
so
like
29.29
by
itself
might
already
be
a
bundle.
D
Algorithm,
the
hashing
encoder
from
rlp
to
sse,
and
so
mike
zoltu
presented
a
number
of
different
options,
basically
more
or
less
all
of
the
available
options,
broadly
speaking
about
what
could
go
into
berlin
or
what
perhaps
not-
and
it
has
literally
been
one
hour
of
discussion
around
that,
as
stated,
it
is
a
pre-thorny
issue.
Various
members
of
the
of
the
call
peter
zelagi,
martin
and
others
have
managed
to
make
also
some
hybrid
options
that
sort
of
exist
between
some
of
the
options
that
mica
presented.
D
The
one
thing
that
seems
clear
thus
far
is
that
we're
not
going
to
do
ssd,
yet
ssz
is
definitely
on
the
map
somewhere,
especially
because
eth2
uses
it
by
default.
The
question
is
how
much
effort
we
want
to
spend
here
and
now
or
when
in
order
to
get
it
in
now.
There
is
a
large
feeling
that
berlin
has
been
pushed
off
enough,
and
at
this
point
we
should
do
whatever
we
can
just
to
get
berlin
somewhere
in
the
near
future.
When
looking
at
something
like
ssc,
it's
potentially
a
very,
very
large
project.
D
Even
I
I
believe
the
optimistic
reports
were
putting
that
at
like
to
be
six
to
nine
months
for
implementation.
A
Awesome,
thank
you
so
yeah
there
have
been
some
more
discussion
on
eip2972
that
came
up
later
in
the
breakout
room
meeting.
This
meeting.
A
Was
scheduled
on
monday?
Thank
you
william,
for
that,
and
I
think
the
rest
of
the
15
minutes
meeting
would
not
take
like.
I
would
not
be
having
too
much
of
discussion,
but
that
that
was
it
like
it.
It
should
be
smaller
for
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
this
very,
very
long
conversation,
and
I
mean
like
summarizing
this
long
conversation
for
us,
so
the
next
meet.
A
The
next
meeting
is
at
2
meeting.
I
don't
see
edson
here.
So,
let's
move
on
to
a
breakout
room
meeting.
Our
last
meeting
occurred
on
monday
and
the
agenda
video
and
the
decisions
made
are
available
on
ethereum,
slash
pm,
github
repo,
the
questions
that
we
tried
to
answer
there
was
like,
with
respect
to
efp2,
I
think
2718
type
transaction.
A
A
The
good
news
is
the
group
present
in
the
meeting
were
able
to
get
to
answer
to
all
these
three
questions,
and
those
answers
are
also
available
in
the
comment
section
of
the
agenda.
A
The
next
steps
decided
from
the
meeting
were
like
micah,
has
to
update
the
eip2976
that
is
type
transaction
over
gossip
with
the
decision
made
clients
those
were
present
where
geth
basu,
open
ethereum
so
seems
like
we
have
consensus
there
on
how
to
move
forward,
and
the
decision
would
be
shared
with
the
all
core
dev
team
on
friday
call
moving
on
the
next
item
on
agenda
is
beep
and
e.
A
So
last
week
we
had
a
proposal
with
enr
with
felix
lang,
and
that
is
really
good
discussion
with
felix.
It
was
our
first
networking
proposal
on
the
p
penney
series.
I
highly
recommend
people
to
watch,
especially
for
the
clients
who
are
implementing
this
eip
and
clients.
A
A
A
A
A
So
if,
if
people
have
thought-
and
they
would
like
to
initiate
something
like
new
task
or
content,
that
can
be
helpful
for
communities
related
to
ethereum
main
network,
I
think
having
a
proposal
on
that
and
getting
it
budgeted
would
be.
You
know
good
way
to
proceed
and
all
the
members
of
the
cathedrals
are
or
any
anyone
from
the
community
are
also
welcome
to
share
a
proposal,
and
we
can
see
how
we
can
go
about
that.
A
So
just
one
thing
I
want
to
mention
like
this,
one
cannot
be
withdrawn
right
now,
because
it
is
under
review
related
and
when
we
apply
for
the
phone
it
was
over
600
usd
the
price
of
it
was
over
600.
So
there's
a
possibility
that
we
may
get
a
little
less
a
little
more
than
what
we
asked
for.
But
that
should
be
fine.
A
I
want
to
thanks
hudson
for
coordinating
this
one
and
everyone
else
who
voted
for
our
proposal
and
moloch
and
yeah.
That's
all
about
it.
So
if,
if
you
guys
have
any
suggestion
or
questions
on
this
grant,.
A
All
right
so
yeah,
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
mention
here,
as
I
mentioned,
that
we
we
had
this
detailed
information
provided
for
mullet
people
to
review
through
the
work
that
we
have
done
in
past
and
the
proposal
of
work
that
we
are
planning
to
do
in
future
the
amount
granted
for
the
hudderan.
She
was
112
hours
per
month
that
is
somewhere
around
five
five
hours
a
day
or
something
like
that
earlier.
A
We
were
requesting
it
for
four
hours,
but
this
time
we
had
requested
for
five
hours
or
something.
So
that
is
one
change
and
yes,
we
will
have
good
room
for
website
development
or
any
other
initiative
like
we
were
talking
about
having
some
hackathon
or
online
event,
or
something
like
that.
I
would
invite
participation
here.
A
Okay,
I
think
we
have
just
five
minutes
left
and
let's
quickly
get
into
pm
and
funding
a
ripple.
So
do
we
have
anything
open?
Just
let
me
click,
I
think,
for
pm
repo.
I
don't
I
mean
the
issues
before
I
don't
see.
Anything
new
that
is
coming
up.
Hudson
is
working
on
closing.
That
said,
I
think
wow.
This
is
cool.
We
do
not
have
any
funding
issue
open,
so
we
have
tried
to
clear
out
all
the
funding
last
week
and
I'm
great
that
I
mean
I'm
happy
that
there's
nothing
pending.
A
A
I
think
it's
some
spelling
error
or
something
it
should
be
side
die,
multiplex
problem
and
he's
looking
into
it
hudson
to
reapproach
the
ethnos
taking
follow-up
lane.
Unfortunately,
he
is
isn't
available
for
the
meeting
today,
so
we'll
keep
it
open
and
look
in
the
next
meeting.
What's
the
update
on
that
decisions
item
our
ech
team
agrees
to
pursuing
the
clr
fund
that
I
think
related
to
the
clr
fund
team
by
that
have
recently
listed
cathedrals
as
one
of
the
receivers
for
the
matching
fund
that
they
are
doing.
A
Also
the
bitcoin
grant
bitcoin
grant
round.
8
is
now
available.
So
if
people
want
to
support
ethereum
cat
herders,
they
can
always
support
us
by
as
low
as
a
die.
That
would
be
helpful.
A
Yeah,
so
the
details
will
be
provided
in
the
ethereum
categories
newsletter
that
I'm
going
to
push
today.
After
this
meeting
and
yeah,
we
will
have
the
details
of
both
clr
fund,
as
well
as
the
bitcoin
grant
fund.
A
Okay,
I
think
that's
all
about
it.
There
are
few
pending
items
also
on
the
blogs
on
ech
medium,
so
edson
has
submitted
an
a
blog
on
eip
statuses
like
what
is
the
current
statuses
that
could
be
followed,
but
there
were
some
discussion
in
the
eapip
meeting
that
we
should
be
checking
if
that
has
to
go
on
ethereum
cathedral's
website,
or
should
it
go
to
the
you
know,
ethereum,
blog
or
somewhere
else,
with
the
help
of
james?
A
I
I'm
not
sure
I
haven't
heard
back
from
edson
on
that,
and
maybe
we'll
we'll
check
the
chains
on
it.
If
there
is
any
progress
and
I'm
holding
the
publishing
of
that
block
until
you
get
a
clarification
on
where
it
should
go,
so
that's
all
for
today's
meeting
there's
anyone
who
has
anything
else
to
anything
else.
A
C
A
D
C
D
A
Yeah
happy
to
have
you
so
feel
free
to
you
know,
jump
in
the
conversation
in
the
discord
channel
and
let
us
know
I
mean
like
what
would
be
your
idea
of
interest
and
where
would
you
like
to
contribute?
We
can
accordingly
I'll,
you
know,
align
you
to
the
team
and
have
the
right
access
to
share
your
thoughts
and
ideas.