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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #48 [2020/12/22]
Description
Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/150
A
All
right,
everyone
welcome
to
ethereum
cat
heard
immediate
number
48.,
I'm
hudson
and
the
first
agenda
item
is
getting
the
cat
herders
added
to
an
ethereum.org
community
page.
It
looks
like
this
issue
is
closed
in
favor
of
issue
150
when
you
click
on
it.
Oh
we're
just
discussing
it
again:
okay,
but
discussion
on
the
link.
I
think
right.
B
A
C
C
C
So
I
guess
where
I'm
at
this
point
and
want
to
propose
and
have
a
discussion
about,
is
to
as
to
like
what
specific
content
should
potentially
be
on
each,
and
I
guess
the
way
I
see
it
right
now
is
like.
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
the
ethereum
cat
herders
to
have
a
separate
domain
where
they
can
say
like
explain
who
they
are,
what
they
do
who's
on
the
team.
C
But
a
lot
of
the
like
information
you
put
out
around
eips
and
around
network
upgrades
and
just
like
helping
us
to
build
or
to
maintain
those
resources
for,
like
ethereum,
client,
developer,
calls
and
meeting
notes,
giving
a
central
place
or
like
a
standalone
page
on
ethereum.org.
For
that.
So
a
lot
of
the
just
like
excellent
content
that
the
cat
herders
are
producing
and
writing
and
publishing
that
we
can
help
give
more
eyes
on
that
and
give
greater
exposure
by
like
potentially
putting
that
directly
on
ethereum.org
itself.
C
A
That's
awesome,
yeah.
I
agree
that
we
shouldn't
move
the
cad
herders
main
website
to
ethereum.org
entirely
or
have
like
a
sub
domain,
or
anything
weird
like
that.
Just
like
you
said
for
the
separation
of
concerns
and
there
would
be
a
conflation
with
what
the
cat
herders
are
associated
with
as
far
as
the
ethereum.org
team
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
we're
just
like
a
separate
group,
I
can
kind
of
see
a
future
where
there
is
an
ethereum.org
page.
That's
called
protocol
development
or
protocol
updates,
or
something
like
that.
A
We
can
kind
of
update
that
page
or
have
links
on
that
page,
that
link
to
our
pages
or
to
the
github
that
are
like
neutral
pages
like
the
eips
repo
and
the
pm
repo
that
has
the
core
dev
notes
and
stuff
like
that.
I
think
something
like
that
would
be
kind
of
cool
is
that
is
that
part
of
what
you
were
getting
at.
C
I
see
that
as
a
huge
boost
to
like
anyone
looking
to
enter
the
space.
From
that
that
perspective-
and
I
mean
I
think
you
guys
do
that
already-
which
is
awesome-
it's
just
not
always
easy
to
like
get
that
in
front
of
people
and
ethereum.org
does
have
that.
You
know
special
power
of
sorts
where,
like
we're,
typically
the
first
place,
people
land
after
googling
anything
ethereum,
related.
B
Yeah,
I
think
that
has
been
like
very
well
put.
That
was
the
first.
You
know
reason
why
we
started
brainstorming
about
this
proposal
like
we
have
a
lot
of
content.
Ethereum
cathode
is,
does
work
around
ethereum
network
main
network
only,
but
the
visibility
that
could
be
useful
for
the
group
as
well
as
for
the
community.
We
are
not
able
to
provide,
with
the
help
of
for
the
present
website
that
we
had.
So
I
remember
from
the
last
meeting
there
was
an
option
of
having
a
mirror
image
of
the
current
website.
B
C
Yeah,
I
mean
sorry,
did
I
interrupt
you,
sorry
about
that
yeah
I
mean,
I
think
we
like
explored
a
variety
of
options
on
the
last
call,
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
I
wanted
to
hop
in
just
to
like
clarify.
I
guess
where
just
I
and
remember
I'm
just
one
guy,
but
where
I
stand
right
now,
is
like
the
concept
of
having
like
a
dedicated
page
like
ethereum.org
ethereum
cat
herders.
C
A
A
It
all
on
both
github
and
eips.ethereum.org,
so
having
another
place,
probably
wouldn't
work
for
that,
but
for
protocol
updates,
it's
really
hidden
right
now
in
github,
so
for
protocol
updates.
That
would
make
sense,
however,
for
details
about
how
to
get
involved
and
stuff
kind
of
like
making
the
page
a
way
for
people
to
know
how
they
can
get
involved
and
then
links
going
out
to
where
they
can
read
about
stuff.
A
C
B
C
B
Yeah
so
yeah.
That
is
the
basic
idea
we
are
like.
I
I
just
have
shared
a
kind
of
prototype
that
was
initially
designed.
Keeping
that
mind
and
like
we
are
planning
to
create
a
full
request
for
page.
I
don't
know
how
much
difference
would
it
take
if
we
are
going
by
the
domain
side,
but
that
is
pretty
much
the
idea.
B
B
Okay,
so
we
were
trying
to
create
this
page
right
now,
I'm
referring
it
as
a
page,
maybe
when
we
come
to
domain
we'll
work
on
that,
so
the
design
that
we
are
trying
to
present
here
or
a
proposal
is
like
we
would
be
just
linking
to
the
original
source
of
it
say.
For
example,
this
is
like
the
first
one
like
when
we
land
on
the
page.
It
will
take
us
to
ethereum
upgrades
and
ethereum
client
developers
meeting.
B
There
was
just
another
section
about
ethereum
cat
herders,
and
what
do
we
do
with
the
ethereum
ecosystem,
how
we
are
connected
or
how
we
are
contributing?
I
understand
that
is
the
part
that
sam
was
mentioning,
that
it
should
be
having
a
separate
section,
explaining
people
how
to
do
that.
Now,
when
we
look
into
the
vision,
the
vision
is
very
simple
that
we
want
to
support
the
ethereum
main
network
with
more
community
engagement.
That
is
like
ethereum
one
at
the
at
the
moment.
B
We
are
supporting
ethereum
one,
but
we
are
also
planning
to
support
ethereum
two
in
future.
So
when
we
see
these
things
network
upgrade
meeting
and
resources,
these
would
be
taking
back
to
the
okay.
I
think
I
have
a
page
for
you
so
when
we
click
on
network
upgrade
that
will
bring
us
to
here
like
homestead,
berlin
and
muir
glacier
whatever
is
there
the
article
that
is
published
by
other
ethereum
dot,
org
or
cat
herders?
They
would
be
taking
to
that
page.
B
So
we
would
not
be
having
something
separate
or
kind
of
something
that
is
like
having
having
it
at
a
different
place,
but
they
would
be
linking
it
back
to
the
original
section.
These
are
the
resources
which
we
find.
That
is
very
valuable,
like
here,
for
example,
for
eip1559
roll
up,
our
account
abstraction.
We
have
a
curated
list
of
resources
for
eip1559.
B
Something
is
there,
I
think,
on
the
ethereum
github
repository,
but
not
for
others.
So
these
are
the
things
we
want
to
display.
Basically,
the
use
of
this
cat
herders
website
that
we
are
proposing
to
be
in
ethereum.org
is
just
to
be
a
dashboard
for
people
to
refer
and
go
to
the
right
place.
So
it's
nothing
specific
to
cathedrals,
because
because
this
is
a
community
funded
project,
we
are
doing
everything
for
our
community.
D
B
D
D
B
Okay,
so
the
there
was
some
discussion
last
week.
Unfortunately,
an
alita
is
sick
and
she
could
not
join
so
what
we
decided
there
was.
You
know
earlier.
We
were
thinking
that
we
should
have
this
thing
as
two
two
phases,
like
one
phase,
should
be
very
similar
to
this
com,
ethereum
community
page,
like
just
simple
text,
and
that
would
be
just
linking
it
back
to
the
resources
say.
B
For
example,
here,
like
you,
can
see
online
communities
and
everything
upcoming
events,
and
here
we
are
just
listing
the
resources
and
pointing
it
back.
That
was
the
initial
idea,
but
eventually
we
were
planning
to
improve
that
page
for
cathodes
very
similar
to
what
we
have
for
ethereum
2.0,
like
things
are
there,
but
we
will
present
it
in
this
way.
B
D
B
B
Okay,
I
mean
like
my
my
argument
to
that
was
like
having
it
I
mean
like.
If
we
are
having
two
separate
pages,
we
may
have
to
maintain
it
separately
and
obviously
we
are
using
community
funds
to
you
know
have
that
domain
and
everything
else
there's
no
problem
having
it,
because
we
are
funded
by
mola
grant
and
maybe
with
us,
with
the
help
of
others
brands
we
are.
B
A
Yeah,
I
don't
know
about
mirror
image
that
seems
yeah.
That
seems
like
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
to
keep
up
with,
instead
having
pointers
from
ethereum.org
to
our
resources,
but
at
the
same
time
explaining
the
resources
on
ethereum.org
seems
like
a
good
middle
ground,
because
it
gives
that
extra
bit
of
information
that
sam's
looking
for
at
ethereum.org,
like
information
about
what
protocol
upgrades
are
where
to
find
information
x,
y
and
z
like
the
eips
repo
and
the
specifications
repo,
while
at
the
same
time
pointing
to
us
for
almost
like.
A
B
A
Yeah,
so
I'm
I'm
shifting
my
perspective
to
where
our
website
will
have
content
constantly
updated
by
us
and
ethereum.org
page
will
be
less
updated
because
it'll
be
a
lot
of
static
content.
That's
information!
That's
unchanging,
sam!
I
know
I
said
earlier
that
it
might
be
more
flowing
content
on
ethereum.org,
but
I'm
starting
to
go
a
different
direction
because
I
don't
know
what
we
would
even
put
on
there.
That
would
be
constantly
updated
if
we
have
it
already
on
our
website.
C
Right,
I
guess,
like
one
proposal
here
and
like
puja,
what
jumped
out
to
me
like
just
scrolling
up
to
the
top
of
this
powerpoint
like
most
of
this
content
in
my
mind,
struck
me
as
like
a
great
candidate
for
the
landing
page
or
domain
of
the
cat
herders,
because
look
like
you're
prominently
explaining
what
are
the
cat
herders
like.
I
think
the
next
slide
is
like
yeah.
What
are
they?
What
is
the
vision
of
the
cat
herders
to
me?
E
B
Are
creating
these
resources
documenting
all
these
nodes,
contributing
and
process
improvement,
and
we
just
want
this
information
to
be
available
for
community,
so
whatever
works
best,
maintaining
it
two
different.
I
don't
mind
that
I
mean
like.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
a
too
much
of
work.
We
can
definitely
find
a
way
to
be
efficient
with
that.
B
C
And
to
be
clear,
like
I'm
not
trying
to
create
extra
work
for
you
guys
or
ask
you
like
hey,
can
you
also
update
the
ethereum.org
page
in
addition
to
your
website?
I
guess
what
I'm
suggesting
at
the
end
of
the
day.
It's
your
call.
It's
your
content.
You
can
put
it
wherever
you
want,
but
just
having
this
main
content
as
like
a
splash
landing
page
on
your
website,
but
linking
to
the
specific,
like
topics
like
ethereum
network
upgrades
would
just
link
to
ethereum.org
and
be
like
hey.
A
D
C
C
So
I
think
this
is
an
example
of
like
yeah,
if
you
guys
have
additional
resources
or
links
that
you'd
like
to
add
and
help
maintain
like
that
would
be
awesome,
and
I
think
similarly,
we
could
provide.
You
know
a
page
for
just
like
general
client
development
like
for
any
developer
who's,
looking
to
get
started
or
learn
about
how
client
development
works,
how
protocol
development
works
at
ethereum.
A
Cool,
I
think
next
steps
is,
after
the
holidays,
coming
up
with
a
google
document
where
we
list
out-
and
this
will
be
good
for
both
the
ech
website-
prototype
that's
going
to
be
built
and
for
ethereum.org
listing
out
all
of
the
data
that
ech
provides.
So
we
would
put
like
a
an
item
that
just
says
links
to
all
core
dev
notes
and
another
one
that
says
overview
of
network
upgrade
and
actually
yo
well.
Yeah.
Pooja
actually
already
has
this.
I
forgot
sorry
but
yeah.
A
You
pooja
already
made
this
so
stuff
like
this
will
go
through
and
if
it's
like,
oh
there's,
some
stuff
about
hard
forks,
that's
like
historical,
like
you
were
talking
about
with
the
history
page
or
stuff.
That's
like
definitions,
that's
going
to
be
one
thing
that
can
go
on
ethereum.org
and
then
another
one
is
going
to
be
like
stuff.
That's
going
to
be
more
fluid
and
ethereum
cat
herder
related
is
going
to
be
another
piece
we'll
put
into
the
like
document
of
information
and
then
we'll
just
assign,
which
goes
where.
B
Yeah
that
make
total
sense,
so
I
think
we
will.
We
agree
on
this
part
like
there
are
some
information
with
cathedrals
that
we
would
try
to
push
it
on
ethereum.org
and
some
information
on
I
mean,
obviously
that
will
be
all
also
maintained
that
ethereum
capture
this
website
as
well.
The
the
question
that
I
have,
in
my
mind
is
like
when
we
are
talking
about
providing
that
information.
Are
we
planning
to
have
topic
wise
pages?
C
So,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
yes,
I
think
like
from
an
information
architecture
perspective
for
ethereum.org,
like
we
would
have
dedicated
urls
depending
on
the
topics.
So
one
example,
if
you
go
to
the
developers
section
of
the
website,
there's
a
whole
documentation
section
of
the
site,
a
potential
like
evolution
from
there.
You
can
see
it's
kind
of
structured
by
category.
C
I
could
definitely
see
us
adding
a
category
about
just
like
client
development
and
a
page
within
that
is
maybe
just
like
meeting
notes,
resources
for
all
the
various
clients
and
just
like
the
eips
that
are
being
implemented.
For
instance,
if
you
scroll
down
on
the
side
left,
you
can
see
like
we
do
have
a
section
about
standards
that
include
some
like
tokens
like,
I
could
potentially
see,
like
particular
eips
if
they
get
so
much
attention
and
adoption
and
like
again,
this
is
an
open
source
website
where
volunteers
contribute
so
like.
C
We
had
volunteers
build
these
pages
on
erc20
tokens
like
if
anyone
was
interested,
they
could
potentially
add
just
like
a
summary
article
on
like
what
is
eip1559
and
like
links
to
resources
where
to
learn
more
and
how
to
follow
along.
So
these
are,
I
guess,
just
examples
of
like
how
we
could
potentially
structure
it
like
I'm,
not.
C
C
A
B
A
B
F
B
A
Sounds
good,
so
the
next
one
is
progress
on
the
ech
website
and
we
just
went
over
that
through
the
powerpoint
that
you
linked
and
elita
also
posted
an
update
in
text
because
they
couldn't
make
it
today,
but
on
the
ethereum
cat
herders
website,
or
I
mean
discord.
What
am
I
thinking
the
discord
so
if
anyone's
interested
in
that
update,
go
check
that
out?
But
if
you
want
to
give
a
quick
like
couple
sentence,
summary
pooja,
I
think
I
forgot
what
what
they
said.
B
Yeah
basically,
this
was
all
about
this
discussion
that
we
were
having
the
second
topic
we
already
have
covered.
We
just
wanted
to
update
that.
We
made
some
progress.
We
have
this
document
and
the
kind
of
prototype
ready.
Now
we
have
to
think
where
is
the
best
place
to
start
working
on
it
or
maybe
a
later
would
be
looking
to
start
coding.
These
things.
C
A
B
E
Yeah
yeah
there
was
a
couple
of
things,
talked
about
the
yellow
paper
relationship
and
whether
that's
the
canonical
source
of
information
and-
and
I
made
a
proposal
after
that-
I
was
late
to
the
meeting,
but
but
I
proposed
that
we
put
a
statement
in
the
eip
or
I
mean
in
the
yellow
paper
that
mentions
that
people
will
be
or
mentions
that
there's
a
community
that
keeps
the
yellow
paper
up
to
date
for
human
readable
purposes
for
newcomers.
People
want
summary
information,
but
that
it's
not
up.
E
B
E
B
B
B
B
B
Okay,
so
we
in
the
past
two
weeks
we
had
two
people
sessions.
One
was
eip2938
account,
abstraction,
which
was
with
sam
and
anscar.
This
was
the
part
two
because
on
the
community
request,
we
had
this
detailed
session
on
it
account
abstraction
proposal.
They
came
up
with
some
new
like
progress
that
that
is
done
for
the
eip2938.
B
The
another
eip
that
we
covered
last
week
was
eip1559
timbiko,
explained
and
provided
an
overview
of
the
proposal
as
well,
as
he
explained
some
of
the
misconceptions
which
are
with
this
proposal
around
like
base
fees
burning
and
to
her
I
mean
like
they
also
explained
some
200
full
block,
meaning.
What
is
what
is
that?
B
And
if
it's
a
good
what
there
are
some
interesting
question
answer
sessions
as
well,
so
if
someone
missed
it
and
could
not
watch
it
earlier,
please
go
ahead
and
watch
this
week
we
are
planning
to
have
a
meeting
with
nick
johnson
on
how
to
you
know,
improve
the
eips
which
are
like
we.
We
have
a
present
format
and
we
are
working
around
it.
So
what
are
the
things
that
can
improve
a
proposal
so
we'll
be
having
this
discussion
tomorrow?
Hopefully,
and
the
recording
will
be
shared
soon
with
the.
A
Community
awesome
next
up
is
the
cat
herders
funding.
I
can
give
this
one.
We
have
ragequit
our
shares
of
molok.
Now
what
that
means
is
we
asked
for
forty
five
thousand
dollars
and
it's
denominated
in
shares
that
people
in
the
dow
have
like.
If
you
have
a
share,
you
have
a
certain
percentage
of
the
current
total
ether
in
the
pool,
so
the
ether
is
actually
wrapped
as
an
erc20
token
called
wrapped
ether.
G
B
B
A
G
B
G
B
A
A
Okay,
let's
discuss
and
close
the
github
issues
and
pr's
the
first
one
is
the
pm,
repo
number
103
and
79.
All
right,
I
haven't.
Actually
I
have
an
update
for
staking
in
dx
now
but
add
an
option
to
ethernet
for
accounts
and
process.
We've
talked
before
about
how
we're
going
to
wait
on
that
until
we
get
closer
to
the
fork
staking
in
dx.
A
Now
I
didn't
get
a
chance
I
I
know
I've
talked
to
lane
recently,
but
I
haven't
brought
it
up
because
it's
the
holidays-
and
I
don't
know
if
we'd
be
able
to
get
in
touch
with
everyone.
We
need
to
to
get
the
money
out.
So
I
put
a
comment
in
there
that
I'll
say
I'll
approach
this
again
after
the
holidays.
A
H
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
it's
50
or
100.
I
can't
find
it
right
now,
but
yeah
we'll
figure
it
out.
Let's
see
yeah,
I
still
can't
find
it
either
way.
It's
not.
I
don't
think
it's
a
lot.
The
other
thing
is,
if
you
go
to
closed
issues
and
you
search
for
converting
psi
to
die
usdc,
I
closed
that
this
morning.
So
here's
what
happened.
A
We
had
zero
point
about
0.14
ether
stuck
in
the
old
gnosis
wallet
like
the
old
school
one
that
we
were
trying
to
put
to
our
new
gnosis
safe
and
we
kept
the
transaction
kept
failing
and
the
reason
was
gnosis
wallet
told
us.
We
had
0.14
ethan
the
multi-sig
when
really
we
had
0.138
and
gnosis
ui
would
round
it
up,
so
it
kept
failing
because
it
would
we
were
trying
to
take
out
more
youth
than
we
had.
A
A
Efficient
yeah,
we
can
stop
using
gnosis
wallet
now
unless
there's
an
air
drop
like,
for
instance,
the
uni
airdrop,
we
got
400
uni
tokens
or
whatever
or
whoever
did
the
swap
got
400
uni
tokens
that
I
think
we
ended
up
converting
if
I
recall
and
the
gnosis
wallet.
So
if
there's
air
drops
in
the
future,
we'll
need
to
use
it,
but
otherwise
I'm
going
to
leave
it.
A
That's
the
other,
only
other
issue
in
the
repo
besides
the
agenda,
and
then,
if
we
go
to
the
funding
repository
for
cat
herders,
I've
cleared
out
all
of
the
I've
approved
all
the
transactions
that
pooja
created
for
note-taking,
except
for
william
schwab's
that
was
on
hold
for
some
reason.
I
think
right.
Pooja.
F
G
B
A
Okay,
cheers
sounds
good
review,
outstanding
action
items
from
meeting
47
decide
how
enough
to
put
content
on
ethereum.org.
It
sounds
like
we're.
We've
more
or
less
done
that
or
in
the
process
of
making
documents
to
plan
that
provide
a
leader
with
funding
for
the
website
was
that
from
something
from
the
last
meeting.
B
Oh
yeah,
we
were
discussing
that
in
this
smaller
brand.
We
have
secured
some
funding
for
website
development.
Alita
showed
interest
that
she
would
be
working
on
it.
I
think
edson
also
has
proposed
it.
So
whenever
we
come
across
like
what
we
are
gonna
do
like,
we
have
a
proper
plan,
we'll
try
to
create
a
budget
for
it
and
estimate
funding,
so
that
was
there
like
alita
was
requesting
for
that,
and
we
said
yes,
we
have
secured
the
funding
now.
A
B
Oh
yeah,
that
was
another
section
like
we
discussed
in
the
previous
meeting,
that
we
are
currently
having
a
p
penny
session
which
talks
about
eip
proposals
only.
But
there
was
some
proposal
around
if
we
can
start
talking
about
specific
tabs
or
projects
as
well.
So
I
have
suggested
dalita
to
come
up
with
a
complete
proposal.
It
was
from
her
that
she
would
be
interested
in
having
these
kind
of
sessions.
B
B
Those
were
waiting
for
edson's
comment,
so
edson
was
unfortunately
unavailable
in
the
last
eibip
meeting
and
we
could
not
decide
that
if
those
should
be
posted,
it's
in
last
time
with
james.
We
had
this
discussion
that
it's
better
to
go
off
with
the
tdm
cad
headers
block.
Only
so,
if
you're
fine,
we
can
go
ahead
with
that.