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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #13 [2019/06/11]
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Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/71
A
B
I,
don't
I,
guess
the
only
things
I
think
extremely
unlikely
that
punk
rock
pals
in
this
town
ball
at
this
point,
but
that's
just
based
on
my
reading,
give
the
tea
leaves
and
nothing
else.
Oh,
it's.
A
Absolutely
extremely
I'm,
okay,
especially
because
I've
been
sort
of
working
and
the
time
it
takes
to
order
just
looking
at
life
for
it
to
meet
the
next
item,
the
hard
post-coordination
up
that
again
it
the
core
Dave's
are
currently
going
through.
All
the
embarrassing
are
peas
that
are
being
proposed.
A
Certainly,
the
last
meeting
must
have
felt
very
frustrating
for
a
lot
of
the
core
Dave's.
Unfortunately,
a
lot
of
the
champions
for
the
Yaquis
weren't
on
the
call
so
I
was
really
difficult
to
negotiate
the
validity
of
the
ERP
people
gave
their
views,
notes
were
taken,
but
no
decisions
were
made
so
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
in
the
core
games
get
our
Channel
afterwards,
but
as
it
currently
stands,
apart
from
the
debts
that
are
in
in
place,
not
in
our
peace
have
officially
been
approved
and
move
forward.
A
B
Guess
I
I
wonder
if
there's
something
the
cat
Raiders
could
do
to
help
make
this
process
better.
So
on
one
hand,
I
feel
like
it's
kind
of
been
a
mess
and
a
lot
of
the
core
devs
and
editors
are
spending
sort
of
their
valuable
time
trying
to
unmess
most
of
this.
So
maybe
the
cat
herders
could
be
helpful
in
a
way.
I
guess
the
counter-argument
to
that
is
I'm,
not
sure
adding
like
another
middle
man
or
middle
group
in
that
process
will
help.
B
But
to
me
it
just
feels
like
one
of
the
most
I
guess,
disorganized
or
chaotic
parts
of
the
process
right
now
and
not
based
on
like
anyone's
work,
but
just
because
there's
never
been
so
many
suggestions
and
it's
clearly
like
overwhelming
the
the
infrastructure
we
have
to
deal
with
eats
right,
I
feel
like
our
workflow
worked.
When
you
get
five
ten
each
to
pros,
then
you
narrow
it
down
to
three
to
five
or
something
like
that:
yeah
yeah,
yeah
approach,
but
yeah
in.
B
Think
the
second
issue
is
just
like
the
overhead.
It
takes
to
technically
discuss
knees,
so
there's
been
an
initiative
to
have
a
mas
on
the
dinner
channel,
which
seems
to
have
work
kind
of
well,
but
yeah,
just
like
that,
like
it
takes
time
to
wrap
your
head
around
these
and
there's
a
lot
of
competing
ones.
B
A
A
B
Sorry,
one
more
thing
yes
just
worth
worth
highlighting
is
the
biggest
like
hard
fork
in
the
past.
I,
don't
know
like
five
ish
eat
in
it.
So
if
we
are
going
to
a
case
where,
like
we
might
have
like
seven
to
ten
eats,
what
does
that
look
like?
Is
that
something
we
want
that
that's
more
of
a
cortez
discussion,
but
it
seems
like
we
might
get
a
hard
fork
with
twice
as
many
features
as
all
the
previous
ones.
Yeah.
B
C
So,
for
the
very
first
time
we
have
a
problem
of
having
to
somehow
manage
a
funnel
right.
So-
and
you
said
many
of
the
peers
were
at
different
stages,
so
that
that's
that
that
could
be
very
clear
criteria
of
you
know
deciding
which
ones
should
be
considered
and
which
ones
are
not
yet.
You
know
at
that
stage.
B
And
that's
a
double-edged
sword,
so
some
of
the
less
form
eats
right
now
where,
for
example,
the
state
rent
ones
were.
Arguably
there's
like
the
most
technical
work
behind
that's
been
done.
It
just
hasn't
been
like
formatted
to
an
EP
to
some
extent,
but
so
so
there
was
this
post
on
eat
magicians
as
I'm
trying
to
pull
up
around
like
shorter
versus
longer
hard,
Forks
and
and
I
know
from
from
our
team.
I
did
something
around.
B
C
Yeah
yeah,
so
that
would
be
yeah
so
again,
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
create
this
sort
of
funnel
and
to
clearly
define
the
stages
of
each
one
of
the
phases
of
the
funnel
right,
so
that
it's
also
transferring
and
everyone
knows
what
what
what
you
know
it's
to
be
expected
in
each
one
of
these
stages.
Also,
how
do
you
so
doing
the
all
that's
called
do?
Do
you
discuss
a
piece
on
rolling
basis,
or
is
it
just
we
discuss
all
at
once
when
you
get
to
the
deadline?
How
does
it
work
so.
B
Typically,
the
way
it
would
work
is
that
people
the
champ
that
each
champions
would
would
signal
that
they
want
an
e
discussed
in
a
chord,
F
skal
and
we
would
discuss
it.
So
that
would
be
like
a
fairy
on
a
fairly
rolling
basis
and
a
fairly
small
number
of
eeap's.
What
happened
last
time
is
just
we
got
to
the
deadline
and
there
were
still
30-ish
like
heaps
that
were
not
accepted
or
rejected,
and
so
we
discussed
them
all
because
they
hadn't
been
discussed.
C
That
would
be
like
TV
finishes
right,
so
one
issue
would
be:
how
do
we
classify
a
piece
so
that
we
make
sure
that
we
only
just
discuss
those
that
are
sufficiently
developed
and
the
second
one
would
be
if,
like
maybe
reinforcing
some
sort
of
rule
whereby,
if
the
champion
is
not
present
or
someone
representing
a
champion,
then
it
doesn't
make
sense
right
to
even
discuss
it.
What
would
such
a
rule
make
central
or
not.
A
A
A
What
I'm
thinking
you
guys
trying
to
say
is
basically
is
trying
to
say
it.
We
need
to
define
if
Anita's
ready
to
progress
I'm,
not
into
Istanbul.
If
it's
not,
then
it
needs
to
be
put
on
the
back
burner,
because
I
said
there's
a
couple
that
are
just
not
ready
yet
and
then
the
second
one
you're
saying
is:
if
a
champion
is
not
there
on
the
court,
they've
called
to
actually
talk
to
there,
then
that
it
should
not
be
discussed
at
all
during
the
cold
day
of
call.
A
B
C
Yeah
totally
so
I
was
actually
asking
whether
or
not
that
made
some
sense
to
you
or
not.
At
the
end,
the
way
I
see
this
is
a
sort
of
a
creation
problem
right,
so
too
many
AP
is
all
at
once,
and
so
what
we
want
to
find
its
ways
for
that
not
to
happen
again
and
and
and
I
was
saying,
there's
like
two
different
problems.
One
problem
is,
you
know
whether
we
have
a
sufficiently
developed
speck
so
that
the
AP
can
be
implemented
and
the
other
is
you
know.
C
C
Sorry
so
yeah
I'm,
just
in
your
difficulty,
someone
said
we'll
have
the
creation
problem
and
we
said
that
there
is
also
you
know
having
technical
discussions.
That
process
takes
a
lot
of
overhead
and
then
there
was
also
an
issue.
You
said
about
timing,
which
is
you
know
if
all
of
a
sudden,
we
seven
or
a
piece
for
you,
know
one
network
upgrade.
Then
you
know.
B
So
so
that
idea
that
that
mostly
happens
right
now,
so
every
eeap's
has
like
a
discussions.
Do
you
feel
that
typically
points
they
eat
magicians
or
something
and
a
lot
of
the
technical
discussion
happens
there
there's
still
some
of
it
happening
on
the
call
right
like,
but
so
far
I'd
say:
90%
probably
happens
outside
of
the
the
core
deaf
school.
A
A
We've
noticed
that's
from
the
last
call
that
there's
a
staggering
amount
to
be
up
he's
in
fact,
more
EMPs
than
we've
had
any
heart
for
giver.
We
also
noticed
that
a
lot
of
the
yuppies
at
various
stages
of
development
and
finally,
if
not,
if
there's
a
lot
of
the
champions,
when
president
have
to
call,
is
there
anything
that
there
you
CH
can
assist
with
to
try
and
smooth
out
the
current
process,
because
there
appears
to
be
a
lot
of
jagged
edges.
A
A
A
B
A
Is
something
that
I
guess
has
been
overlooked
a
little
bit
by
the
cat
herders?
There
are
a
few
issues
outstanding
and
some
of
them
date
back
a
little
while
others
are
just
issues
that
I
think
could
probably
be
closed
off
pretty
quickly
and
probably
worth
having
a
look
at
this,
probably
with
a
few
more
cat
herders
on
the
call
but
I'll
put
through
the
link
just
for
all
issues
that
are
currently
outstanding
for
those
that
are
interested
and
increase.
A
The
documenting
of
the
last
last
stream
for
the
core
Dave
calls
currently
there's
very
few
people,
but
not
on
how
to
do
this.
And
if
we
could
documented
it
could
make
it
perhaps
a
little
bit
easier
at
Toms
Wing,
for
example,
yourself
to
go
and
take
on
the
the
job
of
managing
the
core
dead
calls.
And-
and
someone
has
to
do,
the
video
recording
of
that
for
or
at
least
the
last
dreaming
of
it
for
the
community
and
then
there's
quite
a
few
actually
put
through
bar
by
Hudson.
B
Yeah
I
mean
for
these
issues,
I'm
happy
to
go
through
them
and
try
and
like
ping
people
on
old
ones
to
see
if
they're
still
relevant
and
and
yeah
the
verities
just
like
filter
through
them
yeah.
So
hopefully
we
can
close
a
couple
or
you
know,
get
them
moving
again,
yeah.
So
happy
happy
to
do
that.
Absolutely.
A
Absolutely
unless
they're
there,
there
are
a
couple
of
calls
that
Oh
autumns
that
might
even
be
joined
I
mean
I'm.
Looking
at
60
act
in
72,
Oh,
actually
68,
basically
saying
that
we've
not
got
a
theorem
cat,
herder
email,
perhaps
going
forward
all
the
mutiny
equation
come
from
that,
rather
than
from
Helen
I,
think
that's
a
bright
idea.
It
allows
anyone
to
manage
that
within
the
cat,
herder
as
well,
I
think
one
specific
person
we
might
not
be
available.
A
So
that's
an
easy
one
to
you
to
close
off
and
then,
if
to
Phase,
two
in
commune
is
call
the
claims
just
Pratt,
but
again
deals
with
the
whole
subject
of
the
etherium
to
and
where
we
can
potentially
assist
with
with
that
as
a
project
I
think
at
the
month
the
cross
regards
which
is,
along
with
my
own
peer
assisting
to
you
to
do
meeting
notes
or
volunteering
to
do
that.
But
it's
probably
best
that's
some
of
the
apparent
quatre
it
is
that
are
interested
in
getting
involved.
A
I
have
a
sit
down,
and
maybe
formal
working
group
around
things
ever
can
do
to
assist
these
cars
because
it
we
know
they
do
want
to
do
things
like
at
a
multi-client
test
net,
and
it
is
doesn't
mean
that
they
will
need
some
sort
of
coordination.
There
are
various
stages
and
certainly
various
levels
of
release,
some
want
to
test
at
something
or
not.
It's
even
documenting
that
process.
A
So
everyone
understands
where
everyone
isn't
in
terms
of
being
on
the
same
page
and
then
knowing
who's
going
to
be
ready
for
the
first
release
of
face
era:
here's
not
and
I'm
drawing
a
line
in
the
sand
and
helping
them
do
that.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
certainly
we
can
look
at
doing
and
probably
again
next
naanum
I'll
drop
Knights
with
indicator.
Ask
who's
interested
in
maybe
set
up
an
organ
group
meeting
for
that.
A
Thank
you,
yeah,
okay,
ethical,
we'll
leave
that
section
foyer
where
it
is
now
moving
on
to
the
funding,
accounting
and
multi-sig,
you
would
have
seen
that's
well.
I
was
looking
at
the
Gator
channel.
What
it
seemed
there's
been
some
discussion
just
with
regards
to
the
funding
and
the
receiving
of
I
guess
the
additional
funding
from.
A
A
A
C
To
try
to
you
know,
brainstorm
ideas
on
how
the
website
should
look
like,
and
what
is
the
main
goal
of
the
website
should
play.
So,
even
though
it's
a
few
months
from
now,
I
really
hope
that
maybe
Berlin
or
Def
Con
we
can
get
all
together
and-
and
maybe
you
know
take
some
time
to
think
about
that,
because
yeah.
B
A
C
B
I
won't
but
I
will
I
will
likely
go
to
Osaka
yeah.
So
that's
kind
of
what
I
wanted
to
share
about
here.
Basically,
I
guess.
The
motivation
is
last
year,
I
felt
like
a
lot
of
the
talks
at
Def
Con
kind
of
happened
behind
closed
doors.
So
there's
like
this.
You
know
all
these
things
happening
while
the
talks
are
happening
and-
and
this.
A
B
Yeah,
so
that
was
an
example
and
and
I
think,
like
people
started
like
working
on
things
like
the
new
syncing
protocols,
things
like
that
and
and
this
year's
tracks
seem
to
be
more
organized
around
actually
having
like
the
core
issues
of
a
theorem
addressed.
So
there's
one
around
1x
is
one
around
2.0,
etc
and,
based
on
that
I
think
it
could
make
sense
to
have
like
a
workshop
around
theorem
catch
burners.
B
What
I
had
in
mind
is,
like
workshops,
are
supposed
to
be
two
hours,
so
maybe
like
a
quick
15-20
minutes,
intro
of
cat
herders,
what
we've
been
doing
and
so
on,
and
then
having
most
of
the
workshop
being
open
for
people
to
suggest
stuff.
We
could
do
to
discuss
how
we
would
do
it,
how
they
could
get
involved,
genrih,
yeah,
so
I
guess
I'm
curious
a
like.
A
A
In
terms
of
goes
down,
sir
sir,
do
you
know
what
we
were
talking
about?
Originally
I
said
the
first,
but
payments
you
saw
being
able
a
wormhole
and
I
have
a
general
write
down
and
discussion
from
various
players
in
the
pinniped
rivers.
I
mean
I
mean
in
terms
of
how
the
workshop
can
work.
I
disagree
if
we
could
have
some
clear
goals
that
we'd
like
to
try
and
achieve
out
of
the
workshop
before
we
go
into
the
workshop
and
try
and
see.
A
C
B
A
A
A
Wow,
okay,
any
other
business
anything
else
they
any
more.
Let's
rise:
okay,
I'll
just
I'm
nuts,
but
late
in
the
meeting,
I
just
nice
to
see
Branson
Jim
on
the
coals
as
well
thanks,
breads
and
Jim
are
joining
us
just
as
community
members
wants
to
get
more
involved
change
you
with
the
the
cat
herders
looking
to,
maybe
in
the
future,
assist
with
not
taking
as
a
start
and
and
going
from
there
to
even
helping
us
me
and
I
pushed
some
of
the
pieces
of
work
forward.
Yep.
A
Cuz
you're
mine,
so
I'll
just
quickly
do
a
review
of
the
action
items
from
meeting
12
action,
9.1
Hudson's
work
with
Charles
I'm,
making
I
postpone
order
about
the
profile
audits
and
that
post
doesn't
come
out
yet
and
it
because
they're
still
waiting
on
finalizing
the
contract.
A
Action
on
point
for
most
icky
hose
to
work
on
separating
the
funds.
I
believe
that
still
hasn't
been
done,
they're
having
one
separate
the
funds
until
it
at
the
final
funds
through
so
that's
done.
What
would
you
say
to
that?
I
have
a
suspect's
lining
and
nuts
and
and
Charles
will
start
working
on
I
said
we're
getting
those
funds
I'll
chase
up
Charles,
just
to
see.
What's
going
on
there
action
autumn,
11.1
cat
herders
Derby,
the
document
I
created
about
Peja
I.
A
Haven't
done
side
myself
and
I?
Don't
think
anyone
has
us
I'll
leave
that
up
there
for
now.
Action
live
point.
Three
set
up
a
call
with
if
you're
in
Div
portal
snake
holes,
that's
for
Charles
and
concomitant
action.
Twelve
point:
one:
that's
in
two
proposed
action
plan
croak
my
heart
foot
delay
not
making
Istanbul
in
all
core
devs
chat,
so
he
has
obviously
raised
it
in
the
old
core.
Dave
Stratton
explained
the
situation,
but
he
did
say
you
would
have
an
update
in
the
next
quarter.