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From YouTube: Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting #14
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Agenda: https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/PM/issues/75
A
B
B
C
B
B
So
if
I
guess,
if
no
one
has
anything
else
from
the
last
core
dance
call,
we
actually
agreed
on
the
first
two
eats
to
implement
for
Istanbul.
So
that
was
nice.
It
seems,
like
things
are
starting
to
move
along
and
people
are
like
agreeing
on
which
keeps
our
most
important
to
decide.
First,
because
there
was
a
pretty
big
dependence
entry
between
all
of
them,
not
sure,
there's
much
more
of
an
updated
to
be
had
there
if
anyone's
interested
out
to
just
look
at
the
past
awkward
F,
because
they
really
move
things
forward.
C
Can
give
a
brief
update
on
mine
as
well
as
William
I'm,
so
last
week
or
the
week
before
week
and
I've
fixed
up
the
emergency
tom
template
that
predate
kick
started,
I
made
some
edits
and
additions
and
I
may
need
some
comments.
I'm
looking
at
now
try
to
answer
all
those
questions
and
move
it
forward.
C
Then
the
second
one
was
a
different
action
item,
which
was
a
disclosure
type
document
for
I,
guess,
vulnerabilities
or
bug
categorizations,
so
William
began
that
and
I've
been
looking
at
it,
adding
some
stuff
we're
more
than
happy
to
share
with
the
group
to
also
contribute
I'll
leave
it
for
William
to
say
anything
else
on
that
topic,
yeah.
D
I,
don't
really
have
experience
writing
disclosure
Docs,
but
just
trying
to
I
mean
Charles.
You
passed
me
a
few
different
references,
so
I've
tried
to
throw
together
a
document
I'll
try
and
throw
a
link
in
over
here
to
a
Google,
Doc
I'm,
very
interested
feedback,
and
it
also
just
needs
some
information
filled
in
with
who
to
contact.
I
mean
I
suppose
that
what
we're
looking
at
are
two
different
categories
of
bugs
either
a
protocol
which
should
be
pretty
rare
or
a
specific
bug
in
client.
D
B
D
B
F
B
Okay,
next
item
is
the
open
e
c8
theorem
cat
burglars
github
issues,
so
I
went
through
them
last
week
and
tried
to
ping
people
all
on
them
and
and
and
get
some
clothes
get
some
updated.
Then
was
not
there's
three
that
kind
of
came
up
that
I
posted
as
like
things
we
should
discuss
on
this
call.
But
aside
from
that,
I
don't
think
this
there's
much
more
to
add
there.
Unless
anyone
else
has
something.
G
E
What
I
know
is
that
the
funds
have
been
received,
they're
in
the
multi-sig,
but
I
haven't
done
any
further
accounting
to
like
double
check.
The
exact
amount
may
receive
whether
it's
what
we
expected.
There
was
a
discrepancy,
as
you
guys
are
all
aware
previously,
there's
still
an
open
issue
with
github
about
that
sorry,
with
Bitcoin
about
that
yeah
I
haven't
done
any
further
investigating
on
that
myself.
H
E
We
support
doing
that.
It'll
just
require
the
accounting
to
be
complete.
First
I
think
it's
in
everyone's
interest
to
do
that.
I,
don't
think
those
two
pools
of
funding
were
ever
intended
to
be
commingled,
but
I
just
want
to
raise
the
obvious
question
like:
where
do
the
prog
puff
funding
funds
go?
Do
they
go
into
a
new
multi-sig,
if
so
like?
Who
are
the
token
holders.
C
So
actually
we
help
us
make
the
funds
from
the
fog.
Rada
will
eventually
go
back
to
the
parties
paying
for
the
audits.
So
instead
of
this
transferring
it
to
a
new
multi-sig,
we
might
just
the
end
of
transferring
or
rather
paying
for
the
service
straight
from
the
multi-sig,
because
it's
kind
of
getting
close
to
that
point.
But
if
it's
worth
sunny
of
a
new
mobile
usage
for
that
definitely
onboard
just
need
kind
of
repose
yeah.
E
Charles
I
think
the
issue
here
was
that
we
received
like
so
again.
We
should
obviously
have
Hudson
way
in
this
unless
you
or
someone
else
is
on
top
of
this
I
think
the
issue
here
is
actually
the
additional
funds
received
for
the
radical
I
forgot.
What
it's
called
CLR
matching
exactly
right,
because
I
think
the
point
was
that
more
funds
were
raised
than
expected.
E
B
E
Fool,
that's
a
good
question:
I
mean
the
thing.
Is
there
were
a
number
of
cat
herder
related
transactions
in
this
multi-sig
before
those
funds
arrived,
so
I
would
rather
I
think
it's
a
slightly
simpler
accounting.
If
we
just
keep
this,
you
know,
as
originally
intended
to
be
the
carrot
or
multi-state
and
like
just
split
a
new
multi-sig
for
specifically
for
the
prompt
Alphonse.
B
C
B
B
Okay,
so
like
let's
follow
up
put
Hudson
but
I.
Think
if
like
say,
half
the
funds
or
whatever
some
percentage
of
the
fund
is
gonna,
have
to
wait
a
couple
months.
They
get
paid
anyways.
It
might
make
sense
to
move
them
out
right
if,
on
the
complete
other,
like
the
other
scenario,
is
like
the
contract
was
signed.
I
don't
know
like
in
a
very
short
amount
of
time
and
a
hundred
percent
of
the
funds
were
paid.
Then
then
it
probably
doesn't
make
sense
to
create
the
multi-sig
yeah.
G
G
The
funds
that
were
paying
for
the
etherium
notes
appear
would
have
come
from
Peter
Gallagher
himself
rather
than
from
anyone
else.
He
was
previously
taking
all
the
notes
and
so
use
key
to
get
other
people
to
assist
with,
like
that,
he
was
paying
out
a
hundred
I
at
the
time
again
decision
on
how
much
should
be
if
we
decide
to
go
ahead
with
the
theorem
to
funding
odd
notes.
G
I
Bret
just
a
slight
correction
from
Peter
for
the
last
at
least
two
or
three
months
until
I
started
helping
him
out
being
funded
through
get
coin
and
based
on
the
bigoted
current
page
of
he
had
which
I
can
post
it
looked
like.
He
had
funding
for
about
the
past
three
issues
before
he
kind
of
just
dropped
off
the
radar
okay,
so
that
was
also
good.
I
Three
good
going
I
mean
he
was
funding
it
till
someone
else
was
going
on,
I
believe
I'm,
not
the
greatest
reading
their
stuff
up,
because
if
this
doesn't
is
not
very
intuitive,
but
it
looked
like
it
was
funded
from
a
bunch
of
people
within
the
if
they're
in
the
community.
So
it
was
not
personally
funded
by
him.
Okay,.
E
E
G
So
just
well
everyone's
referenced,
we've
got
a
a
within
the
etherium
cat
herder
fold.
We've
got
a
little
group
called
Metis
and
Knights,
and
within
there
there's
a
group
of
volunteers
that
I
said
that
they're
be
keen
to
tec-9.
Send
a
couple
of
people
have
been
added
from
outside
of
the
gym
cat
herder
Paul.
E
B
If
we
have
like
a
either
like
a
single
get
coin,
bounty
even
I
mean
applying
for
like
grants,
or
things
like
that,
like
it
seems
like
for
one
chunk
of
funding
and
having
one
address
that
people
can
contribute
to.
That's
like
this.
Roughly
10k
a
year
pipe
budget
he's
easier
than
having
these
ad
hoc,
like
50
to
200
thy
bounties
yeah.
I
Ten
I
totally
agree,
and
maybe
that's
part
of
the
mismatch
in
communication,
because
I
didn't
notice.
I
wasn't
aware
that
Lane
didn't
know
about
the
I
thought
he
was
covered
on
everything
we
were
doing,
but
I
raised
that
and
let's
get
her
some
time
in
the
last
couple
weeks
of
just
mentioning
that
Peter
had
had
the
good
point
for
2.0
and
I've
just
made
a
lot
more
sense
to
potentially
consolidate
that
which
seems
exactly
what
you're
suggesting
now.
So
you
know,
I
totally
agree
with
that.
B
B
So
maybe
we
can
have
an
action
item
to
consolidate,
try
to
consolidate
the
funding
there
and
see
what
options
would
would
be
available
to
get
the
money
and-
and
you
know,
they're-
very
release
having
like
a
get
coin,
bounty
up
for
all
of
them
and
seeing
like
our
does
anyone
disagree
with
this
proposal,
I'm
happy
to
look
into
that
if
or
if
anyone
else
wants
to
do
it
that
works.
So
just.
G
Just
for
clarification,
are
you
suggesting
we
seek
funding
from
the
outside
community
for
these
notes,
or
my
suggestion
originally
and
I
miss
why
I'm
just
raising
it
was
to
see
if
the
etherium
cat
herders
would
fund
it,
because
we
already
have
some
funding
available.
Oh.
G
I'm
and
again
that
that's
that's
the
question
that
we
have
at
the
moment.
They
currently
only
three
meetings,
the
etherium
one
may
theorem
two
and
the
apparent
cat
here's
the
thing
headers
tends
to
be
shorter
than
the
other
two
meetings
which
take
more
time
and
I
propose.
G
G
And
we've
got
a
roster
in
that
they
we've
created,
so
we
can
just
simply
add
you
to
the
roster
all
right.
D
B
G
E
Don't
know
because
the
what's
our
call
the
park
funding
sitting
in
the
wallet
has
made
things
very
confusing.
I,
really
can't
tell
it
all
how
much
funds
we
have,
because
we
have
to
figure
out
the
accounting
for
that.
So.
B
D
I
I
think
maybe
we
should
make
an
action
item
to
actually
disambiguate
them.
Funds
in
the
account
might
do
a
little
bit
of
accounting
to
figure
out
where
the
money
is
coming
from,
I
mean
if
I'm
willing
to
work
with
whoever
might
be
able
to
do
that.
Just
like
I,
either
scan
and
whatnot
to
figure
out
where
the
different
contributions
came
from
just
so.
We
have
a
clear
idea
of
what's
going
on
in
there,
I
mean
aside
from
the
actual
conversation
here.
It
sounds
like
we
really
actually
need
to
do
some
paperwork
here.
G
E
And
I
think
the
missing
data
point
here
is
we
need
a
data
dump
from
get
coin
right?
We
just
need
them
to
give
us
a
spreadsheet
that
shows
all
the
transactions
that
have
flowed
in
from
at
least
one.
If
we
have
half
the
data,
we
can
figure
out
the
other
half.
You
know
what
I
mean
so
that
open
issue
in
get
coin,
which
I've
linked
a
few
times.
We
asked
them
so
that
data
and
they
haven't
supplied
it
yet
so
I
think
that's
the
missing
piece
of
the
puzzle.
E
So
so
part
of
the
issue
here
is
the
weight
get
coin.
Does
accounting
is
very
confusing
because
they
convert
everything
back
to
die?
So
I?
Actually
don't
know
if
that
figure
includes
the
streamer
amount,
but
I'm
almost
certain.
It
does
so
I
think
they're,
just
like
using
some
exchange
rate
to
convert
the
stream,
because
we
received
the
message
m
tokens
they
I
think
what's
going
on
here
is
that
they
stumped
up
enough
to
cover
the
entire
monthly
amount.
That's
like
250
and
then
the
other
like
39,
is
probably
just
other
people
who
subscribe
to
that.
F
G
G
There's
not
necessarily
a
bounty,
but
certainly
there
is,
has
been
spending
59a
per
call.
E
F
B
Yeah
that
make
sense,
let's
move
the
conversation
to
that
that
notes
channel.
If
anyone
what
I
think
it's
a
private
room,
the
meeting
notes
channel.
So
if
anyone
wants
they'd
be
added
to
it,
our
cat
herders
community
is
public,
and
then
people
can
just
request
to
be
added
from
there
and
and
whoever's
in
the
room.
I
think
already
can
add
new
people
to
it.
C
Yeah
I
guess
that's
me
so
I
recently
spoken
with
Meena
Alexander
from
play,
daddy
through
my
org,
as
well
as
a
couple
people
looking
at
creating
some
sort
of
gap
hub
for
just
app
developers,
and
it
seems
like
this
will
be
taken
on
as
more
of
a
side
project
from
other
members
and
probably
not
a
primary
task
for
the
Cather
because,
as
you
know,
we're
mostly
project
managers
and
non
developers.
C
K
K
B
G
E
Previously,
I
think
the
only
kind
of
issue
here
and
I
do
think
we
discussed
this
before
right
is
that
streaming
I
think
requires
like
full
access
to
the
etherium
Foundation
YouTube
channel.
So
it's
a
little
bit
harder
to
open
it
up
to
kind
of
anybody,
unlike
note-taking
right
now,
taking
a
permissionless,
so
just
a
stress
bear.
Obviously
this
is
not
my
decision.
E
B
B
B
Basically,
where
do
we
want
this
to
live
outside
of,
like
some
random
issue
on
github
Lane,
you
said
we
should
maybe
copy
all
of
a
theory
on
slash
PMT,
aetherium
cat
herders,
so
I'm
just
curious
what
the
people
think
there.
So
we
have
all
these
instructions
on
how
to
how
to
run
the
meeting,
but
we
don't
really
know
where
to
store
them.
B
Okay,
so
I
guess
I
think
at
the
very
least,
I'm
happy
to
pull
up
a
PR
against
the
etherium
Catherine
endures,
repose,
so
that
the
document
is
linked
somewhere
and
maybe
I
can
put
one
up
against
as
well
against
the
theory
MPM,
and
in
this
way
the
document
will
just
be
referenced.
There
does
that
make
sense
that.
B
E
B
B
E
Cool
I
think
the
biggest
problem
here,
as
with
everything
else
in
our
space,
is
that
I
think
people
are
kind
of
misunderstanding
like
what
the
X
tile
is
and
what's
taking
me,
ins,
etc,
etc.
Just
let
me
be
like
I
think
you
guys
are
probably
all
aware
of
this,
but
let
me
feel
like
super
clear
and
upfront
about
it.
This
is
not
a
for-profit
thing
right,
so
there's
no
interest
paid.
There's
no
tokens
granted
whatsoever
right.
So
it's
not
like
a
lock
drop
or
anything
like
that.
E
E
So
I
read
the
white
paper:
it's
sort
of
not
explicit
what
it
what
it
will
be
used
for.
I
think
it
will
partially
govern
the
dutch
auction
system,
which
is
obviously
not
directly
relevant
to
us,
but
the
ghoul
can
do
anything
on
aetherium.
Any
account
can
do
right,
so
in
theory
it
can
be
used
to
like
values
or
fun
projects
or
whatever.
E
My
main
intention
here
was
just
that
we
should
participate
in
the
Dow
and
like
learn
how
it
works,
because
we
are
sort
of
a
doll
and
we
may
want
to
kind
of
you
know,
launch
our
own
bow
or
something
at
some
point.
In
the
future
and
hypothetically
that
could
be
something
like
a
DX
Dao.
That's
kind
of
my
intention
here.
D
It
was
actually
pretty
against
this,
so
maybe
I
should
just
clarify
my
own
position,
also,
which
is
that
funds
that
were
specifically
given
to
us
for
the
Prague
PAL
audit
or
any
any
other
sort
of
funds
that
were
allocated
for
a
specific
purpose.
I,
don't
doubt
with
your
intentions
at
all,
I
think
your
intentions
are
completely
clean,
but
at
the
same
time,
I.
D
Don't
think
that
it's
ethical
for
us
to
use
those
funds
for
anything
other
than
their
designated
purpose
like
if
we
need
to
move
them
from
account
to
account
I
understand,
that's
the
safeguarding
of
the
funds
for
their
intended
purpose,
even
though
the
reputation
is
non-transferable
and
doesn't
necessarily
carry
a
monetary
value
with
it,
it
still
is
essentially
using
funds
given
to
us
for
an
explicit
purpose
for
some
sort
of
site
need
in
this
case
reputation.
So
I
personally
I
would
maintain
a
very
against
those.
B
So
I,
thanks
for
sure,
that's
really
I
think
that
kind
of
echoed
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
were
on
that
issue
with
the
intro
yeah
yeah.
Would
it
still
be
value?
You
got
to
do
this
if
we
signaled
or
whatever
staked
with
the
funds
that
are
non
pragma
or
are
the
profile
funds
such
an
overwhelming
percentage
of
the
science
that
we
have,
that
it
doesn't
even
matter
I.
E
G
So,
just
for
clarification
quickly,
when
we
were
originally
received
funding
in
the
beginning,
it
was
simply
to
help
fund
the
etherium
cat
herders.
Then
the
propel
funding
came
in
now.
We
never
had
any
specific
purpose
that
we
were
going
to
be
using
the
funds
forward
within
the
Atem
cat
herders.
It
was
simply
a
generic.
Please
help
fund
the
ethereum
cat
herders
and
help
us
move
a
theorem
forward,
so
I
think
there
should
be
no
issues
with
using
those
funds
within
the
DA
style.
I
agree,
however,
was
William.
With
funds
have
been
given
specifically
for
propel.
D
B
That's
what
I
was
gonna
say
and
that's
kind
of
what
I
was
hinting
at
like
if
we
had
so
little
cat,
herders
general
funds
that
it
didn't
even
matter
it
and
it
might
not
be
worth
it,
but
that
doesn't
seem
DK
to
be
the
case.
So
if
we
have
some
cat,
herders
funds,
I
think
he's
definitely
worth
trying
this
with
them.
B
But
then
the
challenge
is:
do
we?
How
do
we
set
that
up
as
soon
as
possible?
And
and
if
we
want
a
new
multi-sig
they're
like
stake
from
then
it
kind
of
gets
back
to
what
we
were
talking
about
earlier
like?
Should
we
just
move
the
nonprofit's
to
a
new
multi
Sagan's?
Think
from
those
should
we
move
the
prog
pal
funds
out
of
the
current
multi-sig
and
stake?
Would
the
current
multisig.
E
E
I
think
we're
gonna
miss
the
window.
Probably
in
that
case
like
the
accounting
is
not
gonna,
be
sorted
out
in
the
next
day
or
two,
and
this
would
have
to
be
done
in
the
next
day
or
two
maximum,
so
I
think
the
only
option
may
be
to
just
do
it
with
a
very
small
amount
like
take
a
hundred
dive,
for
example,
which
we
know
that
you
know
comes
out
of
the
camera
to
portion
and
use
that
which
I
think
is
perfectly
reasonable,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
It
does
make
the
accounting
slightly
harder.
E
One
of
the
quick
thought
is
that
the
only
mandate
for
the
cat
herder
funds
was
to
fund
note-taking.
So
there
was
that
specific
mandate,
but
I
mean
I
think
to
the
extent
that
we're
still
able
to
do
that.
There's
no
issue
and
and
one
other
thing
I
want
to
just
go
on.
The
record
is
saying
because
I
know
I
know
you
guys
already
know
this,
but
you
know
in
no
way
shape
or
form
did
I
ever
suggest
that
we
should
spend
any
of
those
funds
that
were
designated
for
the
talk
now
laud
it
again.
E
G
B
B
E
Yes,
I'll,
set
up
technically
a
ton
of
multi-state
gets
called
noses
wallet,
which
is
also
good
for
us
to
experiment
with
as
well
it's
sort
of
the
successor
to
the
multi-sig.
It
has
more
functionality
if
you
would
like
to
be
a
part
of
that,
then
just
indicate
that
on
get
er
or
telegram
or
wherever
and
I'll
make
sure
you're
included
in
that.
B
B
B
Cool,
so
in
that
case,
it's
probably
worth
setting
up
a
separate
wallet
for
those
funds
and
like,
depending
on
how
long
that
it
takes
for
us
to
do
that.
15,000
type,
Ament
they'll
just
be
those
will
just
either
never
go
to
that
new
wallet
or
we'll
just
send
them
from
there.
Does
that
make
sense
for
everyone,
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
cool,
so
any
other
business,
or
should
we
review
the
actual
items
I'm.
G
Obviously,
we've
just
started
doing
some
note-taking,
but
originally
we
had
some
ideas,
specifically
with
trying
to
capture
where
the
teams
are
and
so
on
and
perhaps
presented
in
a
more
readable
form
for
everyone
to
see.
It'd
be
good
to
form
some
sort
of
a
working
group
around
the
area
to
a
discussion
and
with
those
who
are
interested.
If
you
could
just
drop
your
names
in
the
getter.
F
B
Okay,
moving
on
to
the
action
items
as
we
wrap
up
so
9.1
I
think
we
talked
about
this,
the
Hudsons
to
work
with
Charles
on
making
a
post
about
the
proper
audit.
We
touched
on
this
in
the
beginning,
9.4
multi-sig
key
holders
to
work
on
separating
the
funds.
We
talked
a
lot
about
that
11.1
catherine,
is
to
review
the
documents
created
by
pooja.
This
is
the
same
one
you
shared
earlier
right.
F
B
C
G
B
F
G
Her
chakras,
Hopcroft,
absolutely
and
I
think
it's
certainly
worthwhile
keeping
an
open,
transparent
and
I
will
just
had
our
little
discussion.
Certain
things
like
how
much
funding
should
be
placed
on
I'm,
taking
notes
for
the
f2
and
f1
and
the
mcat
herders.
Maybe
what
I'll
do
after
this
is
I'll
jump
onto
the
the
down
all
right.
Some
questions.
I
will
basically
vote
to
decide
how
much
we
should
be
putting
on
as
a
bounty
for
for
these
notes.
G
Just
so
we
get
it
I've
been
an
honest
and
transparent,
so
everyone
could
see
that
that
everyone
has
had
a
bit
of
a
say.