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This week the Fireside community gets updates on all the current projects and news including Boid Frontier rewards, Pomelo season 4 finale, Eden elections, Block.one donations, and much more!
00:00:00 Start
00:00:08 Welcome to the EOS Fireside Chat by Stephane
00:05:19 Boid Frontier rewards program by John
00:13:15 FT and NFT projects by ShuFan
00:18:06 Fireside Chat time changes by Stephane
00:22:30 Pomelo season 4 finale by Daniel
00:44:17 Fractal Apple and Creator Talk by Dan
00:52:00 ENF global conferences debrief by Rhett
01:05:28 Eden donation Substack post by Trimbot
01:14:40 Open discussion on Block.ones donation
01:38:26 The importance of Eden by Zack, Dan
01:50:47 Learn and Earn video courses by Nathan
01:51:42 Open discussion on Block.one
01:58:25 New ENF community lead for the Chinese Community by Zack
02:01:10 EOS community poker tournament by Stephane
02:07:03 Open discussion on Block.one
04:13:57 Learn and Earn website by Zach
04:15:45 Go EOS!
04:18:35 End
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A
A
Sorry
guys
mic
issues,
audio
issues,
all
right,
so
yeah,
so
today
we're
talking
pomelo
finale
last
day
for
donations
right
now
for
season
four
365
thousand
dollars
in
the
matching
pool
to
be
allocated
get
in
there
vote
with
your
dollars
support
the
projects.
You
love
we're
talking,
trim,
Bots
sub
stack
publication
that
was
released
this
week
relating
to,
of
course,
the
big.
The
big
news
from
last
week
with
the
B1
donation
to
Eden.
We've
got
some
community
members
special
guests
today
coming
to
give
us
some
updates
on
their
projects.
A
We've
got
John
from
Boyd
talking
about
some
updates
on
their
side.
We
have
emanate,
that's
going
to
be
giving
us
an
update
and
also
shufan
who
left
us
an
audio
message.
She
couldn't
make
it
because
it's
4A
4
AM
her
time
right
now,
but
she
left
us
an
audio
message.
I'll
play
for
everyone,
there's
a
new
article
by
EL
support
going
over
the
top
top
enf
projects
of
the
year.
We
are
approaching
the
end
of
the
year.
Of
course,
we'll
have
our
year.
A
End
recap
show
as
well
later
on
in
December
we're
talking
the
new
EOS
holiday,
EOS
holiday,
giveaway
promotion
that
was
started
today
and,
of
course,
poker
tournament
number
two
for
the
EOS
Community
going
on
this
weekend
on
Sunday,
but
before
we
get
all
into
all
of
that,
let's
do
our
official
Fireside
intro
all
right.
Welcome
to
the
EOS
fireside
chat,
the
show
that
brings
you
the
latest
news,
insights
and
interviews
from
the
world
of
EOS.
A
Here
we
have
some
of
the
most
influential
voices
in
the
Eos
Community
from
developers
and
entrepreneurs
to
investors
and
thought
leaders
we'll
explore
the
most
pressing
Topics
in
the
space,
from
scaling
solutions
to
governance,
to
end
more
so
grab
a
cup
of
coffee
sit
back
and
join
us
for
some
thought
provoking
conversations
about
the
future
of
EOS.
My
name
is
Stefan
I'm,
one
of
the
co-founders
of
EOS
Nation,
currently,
a
top-ranked
block
producer,
anios
and
I'd
like
to
thank
Dave
Rex
and
chat
GPT
for
writing.
My
intro
speech
today.
A
Ibsley
welcome
our
new
AI
overlords
and
also
I
welcome
everyone
joining
us
live
on
Discord
watching
us
live
on
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter,
wherever
it
is
thanks
for
being
part
of
the
community,
thanks
for
being
part
of
the
EOS
Community,
the
pomelo
Community
join
us
on
Discord
join
in
the
fun.
This
show
is
open
to
everyone.
You've
got
questions,
thoughts,
questions,
thoughts,
comments
whatever
it
is.
We
want
to
hear
from
you
and
yeah.
Of
course,
today
we'll
be
talking
about
EOS
we're
also
talking
about
the
antelope
ecosystem.
A
So
next
week
we're
taking
a
break,
we're
taking
one
break
and
it's
going
to
be
next
week,
then
we're
coming
back
on
the
28th
for
the
year-end
review,
show
I'm
sure
no
one
really
remembers,
but
the
year-end
review
show
last
year
was
the
first
time
that
I
hosted
the
Fireside
and
I.
Remember
I
was
very
nervous
of
getting
on
stage
and
trying
to
lead
a
a
community
conversation
in
front
of
everyone
in
EOS,
but
you
know:
did
it
a
couple
times
the
nerves
went
away
now.
A
A
So
in
a
few
weeks
we'll
reach
that
7
000,
create
your
custom,
invite
code,
invite
friends
and
you'll
win
prizes
and
Cat
and
EOS
and
nfds
all
right
enough
enough
for
me,
who
do
we
have
here
in
in
the
audience
that
wants
to
come
talk
to
the
else
community
is
just
hey:
John
you're
there
hey
welcome
to
the
Fireside.
Please
kick
us
off
this
week.
B
All
right,
thanks
for
inviting
me
Steph,
this
is
John
from
Boyd
and
I,
wanted
to
announce
that
our
new
Boyd
platform
is
live
on
toast
test
net
and
we
have
a
rewards
program
that
is
live
called
Boyd
Frontier
the
boyfriend.
Here,
it's
a
Rewards
program
where
you
can
earn
tokens
and
nfts
in
exchange
for
testing
out
the
Boyd
app
on
testnet.
B
We
have
you
know
many
actions
and
pages
and
actions
you
can
perform
just
to
try
things
out,
and
then
we
have
a
forum
where
you
can
post
feedback
and
build
new
things
that
you
want
to
add
to
the
program
and
things
you
want
to
improve.
We
also
have
bug
bounties.
If
you
can
find
basic
issues
or
even
critical
issues.
B
You
know
we
have
some
nice
token
bounties
on
that
so
and
there's
some
things
about
the
platform
that
you've
probably
never
seen
before,
like
we
have
a
completely
owned
chain,
password
traditional
email,
password
authentication
system.
So
you
don't
need
to
set
up
a
wallet
or
you
don't
need
to
use
anchor
or
anything.
You
can
move
tokens
around.
You
can
do
everything
with
just
an
email
password
and
it's
totally
Unchained.
B
A
A
A
All
right.
That's
great!
All
right!
Do
we
have
anyone
from
emanate
in
in
in
the
audience,
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
name
I'm?
What
name
I'm
looking
for
Taylor
asked
is
Boyd
leaving
EOS
yeah,
so
you're
talking
about
Telos
testnet
John.
Maybe
you
want
to
maybe
explain
a
bit
how
or
if
Boyd
is
still
on
nios.
B
You
won't
even
tell
the
difference
about
what
you
know
what
chain
it's
on
and
things
like
that.
So
I,
don't
think
it's
a
problem
or
I
mean
I.
Don't
think
it's
going
to!
You
know
inconvenience
you
if
you
don't
have
a
Telos
account.
For
example,
you
don't
need
to
tell
us
account.
The
primary
reason
that
we
are
building
on
Telos
is
because
we
wanted
to
build
a
system
that
doesn't
rely
on
any
kind
of
an
off
chain
account
system.
B
So
that
means
every
single
user
needs
to
be
registered
on
chain
and
no
Central
server,
and
that
means
that
we
have
to
pay
the
RAM
for
every
new
user,
and
so
tell
us
the
ram
is
much
less
expensive
than
EOS
and
also
it's
much
easier
to
run
a
Telos
node,
because
the
network
is
less
busy.
So
basically
it's
just
a
better
fit
for
what
we're
trying
to
do.
We
also
just
like
we
have
really
good
alignment
with
the
Telos
Community.
B
You
know
like
we
had
a
Telos
team
and
they
were
the
most
active
team
on
the
platform
for
a
long
time.
Telos
has
attracted
a
lot
of
people
that,
like
the
types
of
things
that
we
do
with
Boyd,
but
I
see
it
as
us,
expanding
out
to
Telos
and
not
moving
to
Telos
and
I.
Think
that
everything
that
you
see
with
Boyd
on
EOS
today
is
not
going
anywhere.
A
That's
a
pretty
good
answer.
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
apps
to
be
building
on
multiple
Antelope
chains
at
once
excited
to
see
what
the
IBC
implementation
or
integration
you
know
it's
gonna
is
gonna
mean
for
your
tokens
and
if
that
might
be
the
one
of
the
first
places
where
the
community
can
play
around
with
that,
that's
going
to
be
exciting
for
sure-
and
you
know
you
say
you're
leaving
the
token
on
EOS.
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
yeah
thanks
for
thanks,
yeah
I.
B
Mean
the
original
white
paper
for
Boyd
basically
said
that
Boyd
is
going
to
be
its
own
app
chain,
because,
in
my
opinion,
this
is
the
ideal
way
to
scale
applications
So.
The
plan
was
always
to
use
IBC,
to
connect
Boyd
to
the
other
chains
and
have
Boyd
running
on
its
own
chain,
and
we've
just
been
waiting
for
the
IBC
and
the
IBC
is
almost
here.
You
know
so,
but
and
but
I
still
feel
like
the
technology
for
an
app
chain
is
not
there
yet.
B
So
Telos
is
like
our
app
chain.
You
know
it's
a
more
specialized,
more
lightweight
chain
where
we
can
do
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
and
we
still
benefit
from
the
liquidity
and
community
and
things
from
on
EOS
and
because
of
our
our
account
system.
You
know
you
don't
need
to
connect
anchor,
you
don't
need
to
make
a
chain
account.
B
A
B
I
yeah
I
mean
I,
yeah,
I
mean
and
I
would
encourage
any
projects
that
are
having
trouble
scaling
on
EOS
to
think
about
an
app
chain
side
chain,
Etc
type
solution
in
the
future.
It's
just
the
technology
is
not
quite
there
for
us.
You
know
it's
barely
there
for
Cosmos
and
Cosmos
has
been
working
on
it
for
like
four
plus
years
and
and
all
this
kind
of
stuff.
So
but
yeah,
don't,
let's
turn
out
to
be
too
tribalistic
about.
Is
everything
running
on
this
one
specific
chain?
You
know.
A
A
All
right,
I,
don't
think
we
have
our
emanate
representative
with
us
just
yet
so
I'm
gonna
going
to
play
a
nice
little
clip
from
shufan.
So
I
asked
her
she's
a
very
active
in
the
Eos
nft
Community,
even
though
it
may
be
a
small
community
she's,
definitely
out
getting
out
there
trying
things
and
you
know
using
the
technology
that's
available
on
EOS,
with
atomic
Hub
with
D5
box,
with
some
liquidity
pools
all
that
good
stuff,
so
I
invited
her.
You
know
to
give
us
an
update
on
the
far
side.
A
C
Personally
about
shoe
fan,
nft
project
foreign
I
tried
to
sell
them
using
an
FTR
uas.
It's
been
18
months,
since
my
first
amft
was
sold.
Its
name
uses
small
flower
time
flies
many
other
Hobbies,
including
dance,
dance,
music
movies
and
movies.
I'm.
Also
writing
a
logo
and
may
publish
it
on
us
in
the
future.
I
know
the
mft
market
on
us
is
not
that
good
yet,
but
I
believe
it
as
a
bright
future.
C
C
We
have
to
thank
the
support
of
window
drill,
who
are
from
U.S
support
and
listen
who
is
from
gnf.
We
believe
that
S7
not
only
has
similar
value
as
Bitcoin.
That
is
also
very
interesting
because
of
nft
its
price
has
increased
more
than
15
percent
on
DFA
box.
I.
Think
it's
a
trust
and
support
of
U.S
Community
S7
holders
could
even
Be
Imagined
as
VIP
members
of
true
fan,
ft
project
for
more
details.
Please
see
the
website.
We
hope
this
project
can
make
both
nfts
and
SF
and
more
fun,
more
active
and
more
valuable.
C
A
All
right,
thank
you,
shufan
for
that
nice.
Little
description,
audio
message
that
you
left
for
us
for
the
Fireside
I,
see
there's
a
few
questions
here
in
the
chat
I'm,
not
completely
familiar
with
the
project.
You
know
just
wanted
to
give
her
an
opportunity
to
share
with
the
community,
but
I
I
do
think
earlier
in
the
month
holders
of
the
token
that
we're
also
providing
liquidity
for
the
token
on
D5
box
we're
able
to
earn
some
of
her
nft
airdrops.
A
A
So
this
also
brings
up
another
issue
that
we've
had
with
the
Fireside
is
that
we
often
invite
guests
and
teams
that
are
on
the
other
side
of
the
world,
and
they
kind
of
look
at
us
weird
when
we
want
them
to
come
online
at
3am,
so
starting
next
year,
we're
going
to
be
running
one
Fireside
a
month
at
9.
00
a.m.
Eastern!
A
Yes,
so
usually
they
start
at
3
P.M
Eastern,
the
the
regular
fire
signs,
but
this
one
will
start
six
hours
earlier
at
9.
00
a.m,
Eastern
on
the
third
Wednesday
of
every
month.
So
that's
going
to
be
that
one
show
where
we
hope
that
we
get
more
Europeans
tuning
in
and
more
people
in
the
Asia
Australia
time
zones,
where
it's
going
to
be
I,
think
3
P.M
in
Europe
and
around
9
00
p.m.
A
In
Asia,
so
hopefully
more
people
of
the
community
can
join
the
firesides
I
hope
all
of
you
regulars
here
to
the
to
the
afternoon
fire
signs
or
my
afternoon
anyways
will
join
us
once
a
month
early
in
the
morning
and
yeah,
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
have
more
guests
from
you
know
the
wider
EOS
community
and
yeah
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
it
I
know
some
people
in
the
community
were
always
saying
how
late
the
Fireside
is,
and
so
so
for
those
people,
hopefully
yeah.
A
Hopefully
it'll
it'll,
work
out
and
we'll
see.
If
it's
very
popular,
then
maybe
we
go
half
half
you
know
we'll
find
we'll
see
exactly
Foreigner
another
one
that
is
thankful
for
an
earlier
show
exactly
so
9
30
p.m,
yeah
exactly
so
in
Europe
the
show
starts
at
9,
00
p.m
and
in
Asia
it's
like
three
or
four
a.m.
A
Oh
right,
a
lot
of
topic,
a
lot
of
comments
in
the
chat
I
like
it
haven't,
been
able
to
catch
up
just
yet
yeah.
If
anyone
has
any
comments
so
far,
any
more
questions
for
the
projects
if
mn8
shows
up
at
any
time.
Let
me
know
in
the
chat
or
just
jump
on,
say:
hi
yeah.
You
can
give
a
a
little
musical
break
for
a
bit.
A
A
Oh
there
we
go
it's
muted
again.
Of
course
it
happened.
I
thought
I
thought
Dave
was
going
to
do
the
the
mess
up
this
week,
all
right,
Joe
Louis.
The
questions
in
the
chat
asks,
starting
which
month
for
the
morning
chat.
So
that's
going
to
start
next
month,
Jan
in
January,
so
January
18th
is
going
to
be
the
first
morning
Fireside.
A
So
I
hope
you
guys
join
us
book
that
in
your
calendar
already
I
know
your
calendars
are
a
bit
more
open
since
we're
going
to
the
New
Year
make
sure
to
book
that
in
every
third
Wednesday
of
the
month
for
2023
we're
showing
up
early
at
The,
Far,
Side
and
yeah
other
than
that
should
be
yeah
should
be
good,
shows.
Looking
forward
to
seeing
more
people
new
faces
in
the
in
the
audience,
we
got
50
people
right
now
on
Discord.
That's
great
sure,
lots
more
watching
outside
of
Discord.
A
D
Hey,
that's
me,
hey
so
yeah
thanks
for
having
me
on
stage
Daniel
leading
the
pomelo
team
really
excited
for
wrap
it
up
season,
four,
where
it's
the
last
day.
So
if,
if
you'd
like
to
participate
in
pomelo
season,
four
make
sure
you
get
those
donations
in
I
think
we've
got.
Let
me
I'm
gonna
pull
up
Pamela
right
now,
just
to
I
gotta,
there's
a
countdown
timer
right
on
the
home
page.
If
you
want
to
know
how
much
time
there
is
left
and
yeah
that's
1200
UTC
is
when
the
donations
end.
D
So
there's
still
some
time
left.
Thank
you.
Lenny
15
hours,
33
minutes
left
so
check
that
out
you
got
another
yeah,
a
little
more
than
15
hours
left
to
get
your
donations
in
and
they're
coming
in
hot,
as
they
often
do.
I've
been
monitoring
the
progress
of
donations
on
pomelo
and
it's
it's
there's
a
bit
of
a
theme
that
every
every
season
we
get
a
big
flood
of
donations
toward
the
end
of
the
season
community
members
sort
of
like
getting
their
last
votes
in
optimizing.
D
D
We've
raised
74
almost
75
000
EOS,
so
far
again,
still
15
more
than
15
hours
to
go
we're
not
quite
at
last
season's
amount.
We
raised
90
almost
98
000
es
last
season,
so
we're
still
lagging
behind
the
value
we've
raised
from
from
the
previous
season,
but,
as
we've
seen,
I
think
I
think
about
25,
or
maybe
even
50
of
the
donations
came
in
the
last
two
days.
D
So
I
expect
that
number
to
climb,
and
maybe
we'll
even
catch
up
or
surpass
it's
using
threes
level
of
donations
raised
so
keep
it
coming
really
appreciate,
love
seeing
all
the
activity
from
the
community
and
it's
it's
important,
the
more
active
people
we
have
donating
the
harder
it
is
for
the
dad
actors
to
influence
the
pool.
The
best
defense
against
you
know
the
those
not
playing
fair,
I
I,
think
many
people
playing
fair
and
making
it
harder
to
influence.
D
If
you
are
a
Pamela
participant,
you
can
go
and
look
at
your
profile
and
see
how
you
rank
in
case
you
didn't
know:
we've
got
these
great
achievement,
badges
that
we
we
give
out
every
at
the
end
of
every
season,
thanks
to
the
great
work
from
the
gems
team
who
designs
those
for
us
and
if
you
look
at
your
profile
in
the
left
bar
there,
you
can
see
your
all-time
ranking
and
now,
for
the
first
time
you
see
the
current
seasons
ranking.
So
you
can
see
you
know.
D
D
All
right,
so,
if
you
want
that
exceptional
donor
badge,
then
you
want
to
be
in
the
top
25
if
you're,
if
you're
in
the
top
100
you'll
you'll
get
the
honorable
badge
that
will
be
displayed
nicely
in
your
profile.
Just
like
you
see,
glue
Douglas
had
all
those
tiny
badges
that
glue
dogs
got
in
the
chat
there.
I
think
I
think
that's
the
most
I've
seen
from
anybody.
D
So
if
you
want
to
get
yourself
one
of
those
shiny
badges
check
out
how
you're
ranking
and
you
can
even
see
how
much
you
need
to
donate
to
get
to
the
next
rank,
so
there's
that
little
next
rank
slot.
There
glue
dots,
currently
ranked
number
three
and
he's
got
700
of
donations
to
make
if
he
wants
to
get
to
number
two.
D
So
there
we
go
so
yeah
like
I
said
and
another
thing
I'll
mention
is
set
expectations
so
yeah
today's
the
last
day.
That's
not
the
end
of
formula
season.
Four,
we
go
into
analysis
period
at
this
point
once
we
close
donations,
the
pomelo
team
take
some
time
to
review
the
results
to
explore
evidence
of
potential
Mischief
or
cheating,
and
we
adjust
the
matching
allocation
according
to
what
we
find.
D
We
rely
heavily
on
the
community
for
this
process.
So
if,
if
you've
witnessed
any
wrongdoing,
manipulation
of
the
system,
some
of
the
things
we're
watching
out
for
it's
against
the
rules,
for
example,
to
offer
a
quid
pro
quo,
you
can't
offer
something
somebody
something
in
exchange
for
a
donation.
If.
D
D
So
again,
if
we,
if
we
have
conclusive
evidence
that
that
was
carried
out
by
the
grant
owner,
that
Grant
can
get
disqualified,
if
it's
less
conclusive,
then
we'll
make
adjust.
You
know
we'll
collapse,
donors-
and
you
know
20
donors
become
one
donor,
and
you
know
that
has
quite
the
impact
on
the
matching
distribution.
D
So
that's
that's
pretty
much
the
pomelo
season,
four
update
again
get
those
donations
in
get
those
reports
in
if
you've
seen
them.
We
really
appreciate
you
know
the
community's
participation
in
you
know
helping
to
direct
effectively
the
matching
pool
to
the
to
the
grants
that
really
deserve
it.
Based
on
the
wisdom
of
the
crowd.
A
All
right
great
update,
Daniel
thanks
I've
got
a
few
other
things.
I'd
like
to
share
about
pomelo
I
got
I
got
I
got
inspired
last
night
browse
the
all
of
the
collections
out
there
and
basically,
if
the
collection
was
created
by
someone
that
I've
seen
in
the
community,
that's
been
around
here
for
a
long
time
that
I
know
that
I've
worked
alongside
with
in
various
ways.
A
You
know
I
donated
to
all
of
the
grants
that
those
people
were
supporting
and
it
made
me
realize
you
know
how
the
pomelo
quadratic
funding
platform
really
is
a
system
that
amplifies
the
wisdom
of
the
crowd
in
order
to
fund
the
projects
and
the
people
in
our
community
that
we
know
bring
the
most
good.
You
know
to
the
to
the
ecosystem,
and
so
I
did
a
I
did
a
little
thread
on
the
topic
here
on
Twitter
I'm,
going
to
share
in
the
chat
here.
A
Just
talking
about
how
you
know
it's
with
wisdom
of
the
crowd
on
top
of
wisdom
of
the
crowd,
you
know
that,
with
these
new
collection
features,
I
was
a
bit
motivated
did
did
a
meme
as
well.
It
was
funnier.
Maybe
last
night,
when
I
was
tired
than
this
morning,
when
I
posted
it,
but
nonetheless
what
I've
also
done
is
linked
all
of
the
collections
that
I
donated
to
I
linked
them
in
that
tweak
thread.
A
So
that
means
it's
going
to
be
after
the
sibo
analysis
and
it
will
be
announced
in
January
what,
when
that
date
is
going
to
be
so
until
then,
you've
got
plenty
of
time
to
get
in
there
buy
some
nfts
go
through
the
fun
little
gamifications
that
we've
got
implemented
there.
If
you're
looking
for
information
on
what's
going
on
there
there's
a
medium
blog
article
that
covers
everything
you
need
to
know
about
the
nft
adventure
I'll
share
it
in
just
a
second
and
yeah.
A
Thanks
for
everyone
that
participated
in
the
pitch
sessions
that
I
hosted,
we
had
over
30
grants.
I
believe
I
made
a
collection,
including
all
of
those
pitch
sessions.
So
if
you
want
to
reward
the
grants
that
were
that
took
the
time
to
come
on
air
in
public
to
pitch
their
Grant
to
the
community,
I've
got
actually
40.
A
A
All
right,
Final
Round
of
Applause
for
everyone
from
those
season,
four
I-
think
it's
been
a
great
season.
The
you
know
a
number
of
Grants
approved
was
a
bit
lower.
The
donations
may
be
a
bit
lower,
but
the
quality
I
think
is
much
higher.
I
ended
up
donating
to
over
a
hundred
grants
last
night
out
of
132.
A
You
know
so
a
lot
of
you
know
wide
range
of
Grants,
and
these
were
all
from
people
creating
collections
right,
so
I
only
donated
to
Grants
that
were
inside
collections
from
people
or
almost
only
made
a
few
exceptions,
of
course,
but
anyways
yeah
it's
been
great
to
see
the
quality
of
the
projects
going
up,
the
reputations
of
Grant
owners
increasing.
You
know
season
over
season,
they're
delivering
on
what
they
say.
That's
great!
Okay.
We
want
more
of
that.
We
know
this.
This
grant
Creator
is
already
delivered,
they're
sharing
their
updates.
A
All
of
that's
all,
coming
together
nicely
yeah
and
I.
Guess
one
one
yeah
one
thing:
I'm
looking
for
next
season
is
more
more
auditing
of
these
grants.
So
I
know
there's
a
few
groups
out
there
that
are
working
on
that
aspect
of
pomelo
and
to
have
more
deeper,
detailed
audits
on
what
the
Project's
promise
compared
to
what
they
deliver,
and
you
know
sometimes
things
happen.
Token
price
moves
all
that
stuff,
but
it's
good
to
get
more
visibility,
more
information
into
that
stuff.
A
D
So
maybe
you're
not
interested
in
creating
a
grant,
but
you've
got
you
know,
you're
a
passionate
Community
member
who
wants
to
see
the
matching
pool
distributed
fairly.
You
you've
got
some
time
to
investigate
grants
and
to
put
together
a
collection
of
you,
know,
a
well-researched
collection
of
grants
that
have
been
delivering
and
proven
that
they're
delivering
I
think
that's
a
great
way
to
build
your
reputation
too.
You
don't
have
to
create
a
grant.
D
E
D
D
So
yeah
really
really
happy
to
see
all
the
the
adoption
of
the
collections
it
looks
like
people
are
really
using
it.
Loving
it
I've
been
loving
it
just
like
you,
I've
been
a
majority
of
my
donations
have
been
going
through
collections
and
again
this
is
just
the
beginning.
I
I
think
I.
Think
we're
gonna
really
see
the
value
of
collections
manifest
through
that
season
over
season
mechanic
that
pomelo
does
so
there
we
go
just
another
two
cents.
Thank
you
Steph
for
sparking
that
in
my.
A
D
That's
a
good
question
so
right
now,
the
way
that
it's
filled
up
is
I've
got
a
pomelo
account
that
I
can
log
in
with
and
follow
Collections,
and
then
they
end
up
in
the
featured
Collections
and
I.
Haven't
done
that
this
season,
I'm
I'm,
trying
to
stay
sort
of
relatively
neutral
when
it
comes
to
the
collection,
you
know,
which
you
know,
support
the
questions
you
want.
However,
I
really
would
like
to
see
that
that
feature
used
more
and
I'd
be
curious
to
hear
from
the
community.
D
So
yeah
we've
there's
we've
got
the
just
the
standard,
so
they
have.
We
had
this
whole
featured
collection
section.
That
right
now
is
black,
because
we
haven't
designated
any
collections
to
feature.
We've
also
got
the
Sorting
so
yeah
by
default,
just
like
Bitcoin,
it's
shuffled.
However,
we
we
have
additional
sorting
ways
to
sort,
so
you
can
sort
by,
for
example,
number
of
followers
you
could
sort,
so
anyone
can
follow
their
favorite
Collections
and
the
number
one
followed
collection
is:
is
the
collection
of
of
evil
Rose
of
the
enf?
D
So
that's
one.
If
you
want,
you
can
sort
collections
by
number
of
followers.
Another
thing
we're
going
to
be
adding
is
an
ability
to
store
it
right
now.
You
can't
do
this
yet,
but
probably
by
next
season,
you'll
be
able
to
sort
by
a
number
of
donations
made
to
a
collection
via
a
collection,
so
that
data
exists
on
the
back
end.
It's
just
a
matter
of
us.
You
know
formatting
it
and
and
putting
that
in
the
UI
to
be
able
to
sort
with
that.
D
D
First,
you
know
Community
member
who
features
collection,
maybe
there's
multiple
ways:
I
don't
know,
but
for
now
again
I
have
I've,
not
featured
any
collections
just
because
I
haven't
yet
figured
out
the
criteria
and
I
see
I
see
trimbot
has
said
based
on
ranking
of
vanilla
member
who
creates
the
collection
and
I
guess
by
ranking.
You
mean
number
of
followers,
or
do
you
mean
number
of
donations?
They've
made
that's
another
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
way
to
sort
by
that,
but
one
of
the
things
we
do
on
the
collections
is
right.
D
D
You
know
soon
we've
got
bounties
coming
I
mentioned.
You
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
way
to
eventually
to
rate
People
based
on
their
contributions.
You
know
five
star
four-star.
Maybe
that's
going
to
be
something
we
display
in
collections
to
at
some
point
so
yeah
all
kinds
of
different
ways
to
Signal
reputation
and
use
that
data
to
feature
Collections
and
grants.
D
D
D
D
D
Ideally
our
goal,
maybe
if,
if
not
for
the
first
iteration,
maybe
the
second
iteration
you're,
also
going
to
be
able
to
upvote
and
down
vote
comments,
just
kind
of
like
Reddit.
How
that
will
the
most
upvoted
comments
will
surface
to
the
top?
Maybe
the
most
downwarded
ones
will
get
hidden,
maybe
you'll
be
able
to
still
view
them
if
you
with
an
extra
click,
and
the
idea
with
this
is
yeah
just
another
opportunity
for
the
community
to
be
able
to
hold
the
grants
accountable.
Ask
questions,
you
know,
make
comments
like
hey.
D
You
said
you
were
going
to
do
this
and
you
never
did
it
what's
the
deal
and
the
grant
owner
will
be
able
to
respond
in
the
comments
and
anyone
who's
reached.
That
threshold
can
only
make
one
comment
per
Grant.
The
idea
is
not
to
make
like
a
big
common
thread,
but
you
know
give
everybody
a
chance
to
have
their
say
and
edit
it
if
they
need
to.
So
that's
what
we're
planning,
hopefully,
fingers
crossed
the
program
works
out
according
to
plan
we'll
have
that
ready
for
season
five.
D
G
G
So
yeah
thanks
so
much
well,
I
wanted
to
say
first
off
thanks
so
much
to
the
Palmetto
team.
You
guys
are
doing
amazing
work
well,
we'll
be
on
the
team,
so
really
appreciate
it,
and
thank
you
also
well.
Thank
you
specifically
Daniel
Keys
other
things.
You
said
there
sounds
great
and
thank
you
Stefan
for
hosting
this
conversation.
G
G
I
have
notes
written
out
too
I
was
writing
some
notes
out
so
I
can
give
everybody
a
great
experience
just
be
concise
and
be
respectful
everyone's
time
and
I
suppose
that
if
it's
all
right
with
you
Stefan
everybody,
then
I'll
jump
into
it
and
maybe
I'll
pause
a
little
bit
between
each
Topic
in
case
anybody
has
any
questions
or
comments
and
yeah
feel
free
to
jump
in
yeah.
Does
that
sound
good
with
you
still
on
yeah.
G
It
sounds
good,
it
is
a
49,
so
I'll
be
I'll,
be
concise
and
quick
yeah.
So
anyway,
I
I
want
to
say
things.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
Stefan
and
congratulations
on
just
about
a
year
of
hosted
the
news,
Fireside,
Chats
and
bringing
the
community
together.
You
do
an
awesome
amazing
job
and
I
really
appreciate
it
as
I'm
sure
many
people
in
the
community
do
as
well,
and
also
congratulations
on
the
hot
sauce
Grant
so
far,
and
everything
you're
doing
and
they've
come
out
with
sessions.
G
I
did
those
so
I'm
just
really
appreciative
at
that.
Also,
thank
you
for
joining
the
fractal
Apple,
which
is
one
of
the
announcements
that
I
mentioned,
and
it's
chatting
some
time
with
me
yesterday
and
sharing
fun
comments
and
helping
me
to
decide
on
public
goods
of
know
and
being
a
part
of
it,
and
also
I,
really
appreciate
your
donations
for
Creative
talk
and
even
creators,
and
so
I
mentioned
one
of
the
announcements
is
called
fractal
Apple.
G
Pomelo
and
public
goods
careers
on
Camilla
I've
also
opened
that
a
page
at
edengrace.com,
where
I've
been
curating
pomelo
and
trying
to
share
it
with
a
wider
audience,
because,
like
I
mean
it's
amazing.
What
we're
doing
here
at
use
comedian
I
really
want
to
spread
it
with
the
wider
world
and
help
people
understand
the
benefits
of
pomelo
and
he
I'll
share
a
couple
links
in
the
chat
too.
G
In
case
we
want
to
see
it,
I
encourage
you
to
check
out
the
episode
that
we
did
both
the
first
episode
and
also
the
second
episode
that
I
just
yesterday.
During
the
second
episode,
it
was
a
kind
of
a
holiday
themed
episode
where
I
spread
some
holiday
cheer
and
opened
up
some
gifts
and
played
some
Christmas
songs
and
I
also
gave
500
EOS
to
public
goods
creators
on
pomelo,
with
the
help
of
Stefan
and
Jordan
many
people
in
the
community.
G
Thanks
everybody
for
joining
and
all
the
support,
and
it
was
really
fun-
got
creative
and
and
yeah.
So
it
was
a
fun
time
and
also
I
think
it's
a
really
cool
way
to
promote
pomelo,
to
live
stream
and
to
share
the
appreciation
for
all
the
great
people
doing
amazing
work
in
the
community.
So
thanks
everybody
for
creating
public
goods
for
Eos
and
for
the
world,
I
supported
79
grants
that
I
knew
did
really
cool
work
last
night.
G
So
I
was
very
happy
to
do
that,
and
very
thankful
for
everybody
and
I'm
going
to
be
in
the
show.
Every
week
at
Sunday,
15
UTC
before
the
Eatontown
Hall,
which
is
16,
UTC
and
then
I'm
also
going
to
just
be
doing
them,
maybe
randomly
throughout
the
week
I'm
also
looking
forward
to
the
next
tomorrow
season
to
give
away
more
funds
to
public
good
creators
on
pomelo
and
I.
Think
that
is
well,
that's,
probably
the
end
of
the
first
announcement.
G
A
G
Yes,
absolutely:
okay,
cool,
well,
yeah,
thanks!
So
much
that's
fractal
Apple
I'll
be
doing
that
once
again
on
Sundays
at
15.
Utc
people
can
check
it
out
at.
You
can
well
I'm
going
to
get
back
to
apple.com
right
now
to
edenpage.com
Apple,
where
you
can
learn
more
and
the
first
episode
was
really
fun.
I
did
live
stream
for
two
hours.
That's
in
the
chat,
please!
You
can
watch
that
and
feel
free
to
reach
out
with
any
questions
or
comments.
Love
to
hear
your
thoughts.
G
Second
show
that
I
did
was
called
Creator
talk
and
that's
a
new
show
where
I
speak
with
creators
about
creativity
and
collaboration
and
a
lot
more.
You
can
see
the
show
at
Creator
talk,
dot,
show
and
I
I
did
introduces
a
little
bit.
So,
just
to
briefly
reiterate,
the
show
is
now
live.
I
released,
it
I
released
the
first
interview
with
tadas,
who
is
a
really
Visionary
and
talented
developer
and
EOS,
who
created
the
Eden
plus
Factor
process,
also
Albedo.
G
Some
other
cool
projects
he's
working
on
as
well.
English
fractal
process
is
a
super
hopeful
consensus
game
that
we've
been
playing
at
Eden
practical
meetings
on
Wednesday,
the
16
UTC
at
the
Eden
fractal
we've
been
meeting
for
over
six
months
now,
but
we
started
doing
this
about
two
months
ago
and
this
is
basically
a
process
that
combines
Eden
elections
with
frankly.
So
we
reward
respect
as
well
as
elect
leaders
who
form
a
council.
G
So
I
I
show
you
on
this
message
in
the
chat
but
yeah
you
can
check
it
out
at
creative
creators.
Creator
talk,
dot,
show
slash
tadas
for
the
full
episode
and
also
a
preview
that
I
made
and
show
notes
and
and
person
noted
more
about
the
dos
and
related
articles
and
so
forth.
I
put
a
lot
of
work
into
making
this
show
as
exciting
as
possible
and
helpful
as
possible.
G
So,
there's
a
cool
little
surfer,
dude
and
a
lot
of
cool
art
that
I've
been
making,
as
well
as
websites
I
created
about
eating
plus
fractal
and
a
hero
timers,
so
I'll
hurry
up
here,
but
yeah
I'm
really
excited
about
it
and
I
encourage
everyone
check
it
out
at
creatalk.shell
and
I.
Also,
the
final
announcement
is
that
I
have
some
big
news
about
using
the
Eden
plus
fractal
process
today,
so
I'll
stop
there.
Thank
you,
Stefan.
A
G
Watching
on
our
side,
thank
you
very
much.
Do
you
mind
if
I
just
take
one
moment
just
to
show
the
final
announcement,
because
that
was
the
first
two
and
I'm
sorry
that
so
much
at
once,
but
it's
just
been
a
crazy
crazy
week
and
I
can
do
the
last
one
very
quickly
and
does
follow
up
Who's
laughing
I
think
I'll
go
ahead.
I
I,
don't
know,
I
hear
that
too.
Okay,
so
I'll
just
say
two
with
this
Eden
plus
Factor
process.
G
We
actually
passed
three
proposals
today
at
the
Eden
practical
meeting,
so
that
was
the
most
process.
We
passed
and
tadas
also
made
two
more
proposals
for
to
have
to
basically
elect
the
moderator
and
set
moderate
guidelines
and
to
optimize
the
hour
after
breakup
meetings.
So
maybe
this
is
yeah
too
many
details.
It's
really
cool,
Revolution
I
know
I've
been
talking
for
a
while.
Yes,.
A
H
H
H
We
have
found
out
that
if
we
are
on
events-
and
we
talk
to
the
people
that
are
on
those
events,
that
can
be
very
beneficial
for
the
EOS
Community
there's
all
kinds
of
suppliers
that
have
technology
that
can
be
migrated
to
eus
or
EOS
protocol
can
be
added
to
the
protocol
or
to
the
solution
or
the
application
or
the
wallet.
So
that's
why
we
want
to
visit
as
many
events
and
talk
to
the
the
booth
owners
to
see
if
they
are
interested
in.
H
So
in
the
last
three
months
we
did
11
events
in
seven
countries
in
10
weeks,
web
Summit
in
Lisbon,
future
blockchain
Summit
in
Dubai
techx
in
London
and
in
Amsterdam
token
2049
in
London.
Enf
itself
did
the
Singapore
version.
We
did
w-3
Vision.
That
was
a
part
of
the
Mexico
we
will
do
that
was
in
Germany.
We
would
do
next
year
from
the
same
organization
or
related
to
it
also
an
event
very
focused
on
marketing
and
they
have
a
special
web
3
gaming
area.
H
So
we'll
probably
do
that
for
next
year,
with
the
D5
Congress
in
Belfast
blockchain
Expo
in
Zaragoza,
with
a
little
bit
of
an
accent
on
on
gaming.
There
we
met
a
few
gaming
companies
and
we
did
three
events
from
Gardner
and
we
spoke
last
10
weeks
with
I
think
over
25
analysts
from
Gardner
explaining
what
web3
and
EOS
can
offer
to
Enterprises
and
why
people
should
build
on
this
Tech
stack
for
all
these
events.
We
had
a
pop-up
wall,
so
maybe
you've
seen
those
walls
where
it's
an
aluminum
frame.
H
H
In
total,
there
were
14
people
of
us
participating
in
these
shows.
I
did
eight
events.
I
couldn't
do
all
because
some
of
them
are
were
on
the
same
date
about
14
people
of
us
were
participating,
I
did
six
presentations,
five
panel
participations
and
on
average
there
were
like
134
people
in
the
audience,
so
that
are
pretty
okay
statistics.
H
We
have
about
1700
new
contacts
in
a
database
that
we,
jointly
with
enf,
are
going
to
nurture,
send
out
marketing
events,
marketing
materials,
the
first
few
that
we
did
had
like
an
open
rate
of
40.
So
that
is
very
impressive.
If
you
know
anything
about
click
rates
on
email,
then
40
extremely
high
in
total
218
000
people
were
at
all
these
events.
H
H
H
Business
cards
and
serious
numbers
have
been
given
out
so
from
some
of
the
projects.
We
had
a
little
bit
of
more
detail,
like
our
team
answered
some
questions
after
they
had
contact
with
this
person.
So,
for
example,
the
question:
what
was
the
maturity
of
the
person
that
you
spoke
with?
Was
it
low
medium
on
high
low
was
about
16
I
was
35,
and
that
leaves
medium.
Sorry,
that
leaves
I.
H
H
Let
me
go
through
some.
A
lot
of
the
context.
Number
one
context
was
246
in
the
Netherlands
120
one
in
the
UK
111
in
Dubai
106
in
Germany
66
in
Portugal,
to
mention
the
top
already
said
that
we
had
not
a
high
open
rate.
It
was
46
open
rate
in
the
first
email,
second
email
39,
so
it
goes
down,
but
we
still
have
1215
numbers
email
names
in
that
we
keep
on
nurturing.
H
In
total,
we
did
in
the
last
period
102
social
media
posts
that
were
retweeted
on
LinkedIn
and
Twitter,
and
but
there
were
102
original
posts
and
that
reached
about
189,
000
people
and
six
thousand
six
hundred
engagements.
That
engagement
is
a
a
retweet
or
a
comment,
so
the
engagement
was
3.4
percent.
H
H
We
have
we
have
this
whole.
We
have
this
whole
report.
I
will
ask
enf
to
to
share
this
with
the
with
in
this
report.
There
are
some
names,
of
course,
companies
that
we
talked
to
that
I
100
sure
will
not
share
without
them,
knowing
that
we
share
this
to
the
open
public,
so
I
can't
share
what
we
have
right
now,
and
this
is
not.
This
is
not
the
final
version,
so
I
think
we
will
share
it
in
the
in
the
channels,
Discord
channels.
H
I
know
I,
know
I
know
no,
but
in
in
at
the
end,
it's
really
we
have
some
conclusions
slides
and
the
the
title
there
is
happening.
This
means
really
means
that
we
we
see
the
EOS
branding
work.
We
see
The
enf
Branding
work.
We
see
a
lot
of
people
that
were
either
at
the
Ico
days.
Finally
EOS.
Finally,
we
see
something
of
you
guys
yeah,
there's
people
from
the
community
that
that
really
like
that
we
are
finally
showing
our
face
and
that
they
can
talk
to
us
yeah.
I
A
Oh
Vlad,
talking
to
everyone,
I,
don't
think
he
meant
to
do
that.
Yeah.
We
said
we.
They
they
shared
some
pics
Mel
shared
some
pics
of
him
out
there
at
the
and
with
you,
but
yeah
Lewis,
coming
in
with
some
confirmation
that
these
numbers
are
indeed
good
according
to
him
so
yeah.
So
that's
cool
I
think
so.
H
These
are
companies,
think
Deloitte
Ernst
young
system
integrators
in
Germany
in
the
Netherlands
that
want
to
build
on
top
of
EOS
and
Antelope
chains,
and
they
some
of
them
a
one
particular
said
this
is
everything
you
told
me
is
very
interesting.
We
have
so
many
projects
that
failed
on
other
protocols.
We
really
want
to
dive
into
EOS,
because
what
I?
If,
if
it's
true
what
you
told
me,
then
it's
it.
This
protocol
is
very
interesting.
Great.
A
H
A
A
K
K
Do
that
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
like
I,
don't
have
any
oil
towards
the
Helios
people
to
Barnes
wax
Brock
or
anyone
who
you
know
was
involved
in
facilitating
this
I.
Don't
think
that
you
guys
are,
you
know
working
for
Block,
blind
or
something
secret
like
that
and
trying
to
like
you
know,
Screw
over
EOS
or
anything
along
those
lines.
K
and
that
date
is
actually
very
interesting,
because
if
you
look
about
what
also
happened
around
that
same
time,
block
one
settled
a
class
action,
lawsuit
that
dated
back
to
the
Ico
and
was
in
relation
to
the
promises
made
during
the
Ico
and
when
a
class
action
lawsuit
is
settled
essentially
in
certain
circumstances.
Now
this
isn't
a
one-size-fits-all
blanket
rule,
but
it
can
apply
this
way.
K
Essentially,
what
may
happen
is
it
absolves
you
of
any
future
legal
liability
for
the
same
sort
of
situation
and
so
in
essence,
I
believe
that
block
one
when
they
settled
the
class
action
lawsuit
felt
that
claims
related
to
the
Ico
and
the
promises
made
during
the
Ico
no
longer
are
applicable
because
they
had
settled
and
absolved
themselves
of
any
responsibility.
So
what
they
offered
was
a
25
million
dollar
settlement
during
the
course
of
the
Ico
block,
one
made
other
promises
other
than
maintaining
the
software.
K
They
promised
it
invest
a
one
billion
dollars
directly
into
EOS
projects
they
offered
or
promised
to
deploy.
The
majority
of
the
capital
earned
through
the
token
sale
back
into
the
hands
of
the
innovators,
as
Brandon
put
it,
which
is
essentially
who's
applying
or
stating
directly.
That
would
go
into
EOS
IO
ecosystem,
whatever
those
promises
may
have
been
I
think
that
everyone
with
sort
of
Common
Sense
can
agree
that
block
one
did
not
adhere
to
them,
but
the
most
damning
one
is
the
lack
of
code
updates,
because
that's
not
a
subjective
determination.
K
That
is
a
factual
thing
that
you
can
see
on
the
GitHub.
When
did
they
start
or
stop
maintaining
the
code
and
so
again
May
20
21st?
So
that's
a
relevant
date,
May
20,
21
2021.
Sorry,
they
stop
maintaining
the
code.
If
you
look
at
block
one's
website
about
a
week
or
two
after
that,
their
last
update
to
the
code
base,
they
announced
that
they
settled
the
class
action,
lawsuit
tentative
to
a
Court's
approval
for
25
million
dollars,
so
tentative
to
the
court
approval.
K
It
was
settled
in
their
View
and
they
assumed
I
suspect
that
that
was
a
rubber
stamp,
that
it
was
guaranteed
that
the
court
was
going
to
approve
of
it.
I
think
everyone
in
their
right
mind
for
the
most
part
at
least
assumed
that
was
going
to
be
the
case.
I
assume
that
was
going
to
be
the
case
personally
fast
forward
to
August
2022
a
year
later,
and
a
judge
threw
out
that
settlement
offer
they
rejected
it
and
by
rejecting
it
they
essentially
had
said
were
implied
that
now
block
one
is
back
open
to
Legal
vulnerability.
K
So
if
you
haven't
followed
the
case,
you're
probably
wondering
okay,
what's
the
big
deal
here
and
so
on
like
so,
the
settlement
was
rejected
and
then
they
made
the
transfer
whatever
okay.
So
here's
what's
going
on.
In
my
opinion,
this
is
what
I
think
block
one's
legal
strategy
is
I,
don't
know
definitively.
This
isn't
legal
advice.
This
isn't
a
guarantee,
I,
don't
know
direct
knowledge
of
anything,
but
I
believe
what
happened
is
block.
K
One
felt
that
they
no
longer
had
to
adhere
to
the
promises
they
made
during
the
Ico
when
they
settled
to
their
surprise,
the
settlement
was
rejected,
and
then
they
felt
very
vulnerable
to
legal
action,
because
a
door
they
thought
was
closed
is
now
opened.
As
a
result,
they
said,
okay.
Well,
what
do
we
do
here?
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
may
have
been
happening
beforehand
after
I,
don't
know
when,
but
they
worked
out
this
deal
with
in
conjunction
with
Helios
to
direct
funds
to
Eden,
which
is
a
good
thing.
K
They
probably
I,
suspect
in
the
future
will
make
other
donations
along
those
lines,
maybe
finding
Helios,
maybe
finding
pomelo,
maybe
funnel
finding
the
antelope
Coalition.
That's
what
I
expect
to
see
from
block
one
in
the
future
and
I
suspect
they
have
roughly
25
million
dollars,
budgeted
towards
these
type
of
Endeavors.
The
reason
I
suspect
they
have
25
million
dollars
budgeted
is
essentially
because
that
is
the
amount
they
would
have
settled.
K
They
intend
to
fulfill
the
promises
just
taking
longer
than
maybe
expected
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
essentially,
my
point
is
that
the
community
has
golden
opportunity
to
get
what
they
are
owed
back,
but
it
sounds
like
block.
One
is
doing
what
they
can
to
minimize
the
amount
they
return,
and
so
that
is
really
what
I'm
getting
at.
A
A
Trying
to
you
know
understand
why
block
one
would
do
this
at
first.
The
reasons
that
I
was
given
by
people
in
various
eating
channels
was,
you
know
what
oh
well,
there's
a
Blog.
There's
a
there's,
a
press
release
go
read
the
reason
that
block
one
gave,
which
is
they
want
to
support
decentralized
governance
and
decentralized
ways
of
choosing
leaders
or
something
like
that
which
does
not
fit
at
all.
A
You
know
block
one
in
their
intentions,
and
so
you
know
from
what
I've
heard
Brandon
Bloomer
manages
his
companies
with
an
iron
fist,
as
in
like
he
has
to
sign
off
on
a
lot
of
decisions,
doesn't
really
trust
his
team
to
make
decisions
without
him
and
so
very
centralized
and
authoritative,
and
then
suddenly
he's
just
like
now,
a
fan
of
decentralized
governance
and
wants
to
donate
to
eating
something
that
block
one
could
have
could
have
done
for
a
long
time,
because
Eden's
been
up
for
a
long
time
now.
Why
now?
A
And
so
those
reasons,
never
really
made
sense
to
me,
and
the
reasons
that
trimbot
explains
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
and
really
fits
with
my
reality.
You
know
my
understanding
of
reality
and
how
why
certain
actors
do
certain
things
and
behaviors
are
driven
by
incentives.
I
think
that's
why
a
lot
of
us
are
in
blockchain,
because,
because
you
know
blockchain
does
provide,
you
know,
incentives
that
you
can
see
on
chain.
A
K
And
so
Stephanie
I
just
wanted
to
jump
back
in
here
quickly
and
say
that
to
the
Helios
people,
if
you're,
listening
or
not
listening,
I
wanted
to
be
clear
that
I'm,
not
accusing
you
guys
of
any
wrongdoing
and
I,
don't
think
that
you
guys
have
bad
intentions
either.
I
think
you
look
at
this
very
pragmatically
and
look
at
it
as
we
have
an
opportunity
to
get
some
money
from
block
one
and
something
is
better
than
nothing
and
by
accepting
some
money
from
block
one,
we
don't
nullify
any
future
legal
action.
K
That's
what
I
assume
the
vantage
point
is
inside
of
Helios
when
it
comes
to
this
matter,
but
I
think
what
was
is
very
revealing
is
the
timing
of
when
block
one
made
the
transcript
of
funds.
It
indicates
quite
clearly
to
me
that
their
their
incentive
for
following
through
maybe
they
said
a
year
ago,
we're
going
to
make
this
payment
I,
don't
know
when
the
negotiation
started.
It's
very
likely.
The
negotiation
started
well
before
the
class
action
was.
K
The
settlement
was
rejected,
I'm,
not
denying
that
I'm,
not
saying
that
it
was
a
reactionary
move
by
Helios
I'm,
saying
the
the
fact
that
block
one
decided
to
go
through
with
it
just
five
days
after
the
settlement
was
rejected,
or
at
least
make
the
transfer
that
would
later
go
through
with
it.
That
is
very
revealing
of
why
block
one
agreed
to
it,
and
it
suggests
to
me
that
this
is
not
a
company
making
a
financial
donation
out
of
the
good
of
their
parts.
K
That
would
be
an
enormous
pivot
for
both
block
one
and
companies
around
the
world.
To
suddenly
start
caring
about
doing
what's
right,
rather
than
acting
out
of
self-interest,
their
number
one
responsibilities
of
companies
to
their
own
shareholders,
and
so
I
think
it's
very
unlikely
that
this
was
done
out
of
generosity.
A
Now,
if
someone
believes
that,
in
my
opinion,
you
know
they
they
don't,
they
have
a
vastly
different
understanding
of
reality
than
me
and
I
can't
have
someone
like
that
that
doesn't
share
the
beliefs
that
block
one
has
behaved
unethically
towards
the
EOS
community
and
has
actively
harmed
the
EOS
community
in
the
past.
If,
if
we
can't
agree
that
in
the
past,
you
know
that
if
we
can't
agree
on
that
in
the
past,
then
I
can't
I
can't
vote
for
a
person
to
represent
me
like
that.
A
You
know
in
the
Eden
Eden
Community,
but
I
can
definitely
see
that
there's
a
wide
range
of
opinions,
a
lot
of
nuance
and
there's
going
to
be
a
whole
spectrum
of
opinions
that
are
going
to
be
expressed
over
the
next
few
weeks
in
this
chat
in
the
Chats
on
telegram
on
Discord
and
then
in
the
election
on
January,
9th
I.
Think
the
results
of
the
election
in
January
are
going
to
be
very
interesting,
I'm
going
to
be
in
there
I'm
going
to
be.
You
know,
sharing
my
perspective
and
I
didn't
expect.
A
You
know
a
lot
of
other
me.
Even
members
are
going
to
be
out
there
as
well,
and
if
you
don't
agree
with
my
perspective,
doesn't
mean
I,
don't
respect,
you
doesn't
mean
I,
don't
like
you.
I
am
totally
fine
being
friends
with
people
that
don't
believe
the
same
things
and
as
me,
I
have
a
unique
set
of
beliefs,
I
guess
that
isn't
matched
by
a
lot
of
people
in
its
entirety.
You
know
and
I
have
a
lot
of
friends
that
believe
all
sorts
of
all
sorts
of
crazy
things
and
I'm
fine.
J
J
I,
don't
see
how
we
could
possibly
be
used
when
we
were
the
ones
well
aggressive
and
Eden
member
reached
out
to
block
one.
So
with
regards
to
all
aspects
and
speculation
upon
timing,
it
was
when
we
reached
out
to
them.
The
agreement
on
the
concept
was
pretty
much
straight
away
and
then
the
process
of
organizing
the
transfer
was
then
put
in
place.
There
was
no
question
of.
Is
it
going
to
happen?
Is
it
not
going
to
happen
it
wasn't?
It
wasn't
put
in
a
certain
time
frame
for
a
particular
reason.
J
It
was
just
when
we
made
contact.
That's
when
things
were
agreed
upon
and
then
that's
when
they
got
put
into
motion
it.
Coincidentally,
there
might
be
some
correlation
which
you've
aligned,
which
is
fine,
but
that's
not
a
decision
that
we
made.
We
reached
out
to
them
at
that
time
and
that's
when
it
started
happening.
K
K
J
So
the
next
point
was
that
this
was
done
at
the
detriment
of
the
community.
Well,
so
far,
the
Eden
Community
has
voted
on
a
poll
and
they
all
agree
that
it
is
not
at
all
to
their
detriment.
They've
all
agreed
that
it's
a
positive
thing
to
have
either
continue
working
with
B1
or
to
accept
these
funds
with
no
strings
attached.
So
there
has
been
absolutely
no
obligation
from
block
one
on
how
we
spend
these
funds
as
a
community.
The.
J
Rotate
every
three
months
and
as
Steph
underst
said
the
more
members
that
join
Eden
and
vote
with
their
opinion,
brilliant
and
then
we
can
have
a
fair
consensus
mechanism
to
determine
how
these
funds
are
going
to
be
spent
for
the
community.
Now
you
mentioned
that
it's
better
to
get
funds
from
B1
as
it
doesn't
prevent
any
entity
suing
B1,
yeah,
I
completely
agree,
so
I
can't
see
a
negative
there.
K
Great
so
I
just
wanted
to
reply
to
your
first
two
points,
because
that's
sort
of
where
the
contentious
issue
lies:
I
think
that
maybe
I
misspoke
or
maybe
you
misunderstood
what
my
point
was
and
that's
I,
don't
believe
that
Helios
did
this
out
of
a
reaction
to
assist
block.
One
I
wanted
to
make
that
very,
very
clear.
K
I
believe
that
block
one
promised
the
Helios
long
before
they
made
the
financial
transfer
that
they
were
going
to
follow
through
with
it
block
one
has
a
long
history
of
making
promises
and
stringing
people
along
and
then
saying,
something's,
changed
and
so
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
that
back
in
January
of
2022
block
one
said:
yeah
no
problem
we'll
do
this.
It's
just
going
to
take
some
time
for
legal
to
sort
through
it
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
K
But
it's
a
real
coincidence
that
blocklin
didn't
actually
make
the
transfer
until
immediately
after
the
class
action
settlement
was
rejected.
I
really
have
a
hard
time,
believing
that
was
a
coincidence
of
when
they
decided
to
authorize
the
transaction.
Maybe
they
agreed
in
principle
with
Helios
long
before
that
date,
but
that's
really
the
contentious
issue,
which
suggests
to
me
that
block
one's
intention
for
following
through
with
it
was
because
of
the
class
action
settlement
being
rejected.
It
makes
me
wonder,
add
that
class
action
settlement
been
accepted.
Would
they
have
even
gone
through
with
this?
K
It's
very
likely
that
they
would
have
told
healers.
Yes
we're
going
to
follow
through
with
this,
but
would
they
have
actually
I
think
that
anyone
who
has
ever
experienced
communicating
with
block
one
can
tell
you
a
story
about
a
time
they
were
strung
along
by
block
one
and
block
one
didn't
follow
through.
So
that
was
really
the
first
point
I
wanted
to
make.
K
The
second
point
was
what
you
brought
up
in
regards
to
the
eating
Community
voted.
This
doesn't
act
to
the
detriment
of
EOS
again
accepting
the
donation
is
not
to
the
detriment
of
EOS.
Accepting
the
donation
is
something
that
I
support
and
I.
Think
really.
Anyone
in
the
right
mind
would
support
if
somebody
offers
you
money
for
free
with
no
quid
pro
quo.
K
J
So
at
no
point
we'll
be
promoting
B1,
but
we
were
promoting
the
fact
that
on
Eden
as
Chief
delegates
that
even
had
received
funds,
so
that's
important
for
Eden.
We
have
this
now
great
potential.
We
have
no
risk
of
not
receiving
funds
for
a
short
period
of
time,
so
we
can
do
whatever
we
like
yeah.
So
at
no
point
are
we
trying
to
support
block
one.
All
we're
doing
is
amplifying
the
concept
that
letting
the
concept
anymore.
There
is
no
coming
soon
in
a
circumstance.
J
There's
no
student
trademark,
it's
happened,
I
think
that's
an
important
thing
to
note
as
well
that
in
the
past
yeah
we
may
have
seen
delays
and
things
that
didn't
quite
come
into
fruition,
as
we
would
have
hoped
with
regards
to
block
one's
decisions.
So
in
this
circumstance
they
have
materialized
in
from
what
I've
seen
so
far
working
or
communicating
with
B1
as
being
nothing
but
positive
because
they
followed
through
with
their
decision
so
I
I,
don't
see
the
purpose
in
being
a
breach.
When
you
can
build
a
relationship,
keep
something
going.
J
K
Well,
actually,
can
you
tell
us
when
the
negotiations
with
block
when
started
and
when
they
agreed
to
the
transfer,
when
you
believed
that
it
was
going
to
follow
through
and
so
on
and
so
forth?
Just,
because
you
seem
to
have
additional
contacts
that
you
think
is
relevant,
that
I
may
be
missing
and
so
I
would
love.
If
you
can
share
that
all.
I
J
K
Wasn't
myself
that's
fair
enough,
but
do
you
understand
at
least
why
it
it?
It
really
looks
suspicious
not
not
through
the
lens
of
Helios
supportivist,
ignore
the
Helio
side
of
things,
just
the
fact
that
block
one
made
this
transfer
immediately
after
this
class
action
settlement
was
rejected.
Like
doesn't
that
you
know
seem
a
bit
suspicious
to
you,
especially
considering
they
stop
maintaining
the
code
originally
when
they
initially
settled
the
like
put
two
and
two
together
and
it's
sort
of
like
it's
really
a
no-brainer
what's
happening
here,
we're
an
incredibly
rare
coincidence.
A
Right
so
I've
got
a
few
few
rebuttals
on
a
few
of
your
points
where
I
said,
but
first
I
want
to
thank
waxer
and
trimbot
for
staying
so
civil
and
professional
and
organized
during
this
debate.
I
wish
our
nationally
elected
government
officials
would
have
debates
like
this,
but
so
a
few
few
points
actually
they're
trombot
touched
on
most
of
these,
but
you
know
you
mentioned
that
block
one
agreed
on
the
concept
right
away:
yeah
I've
heard
that
a
lot
I've
had
it
I've
experienced
it.
I've
heard
from
a
lot
of
people.
A
Oh
yeah
block
one
strung
me
along:
oh
yeah,
they
said
funding
was
coming,
funding,
never
came
blah
blah
blah.
So
the
fact
that
block
one
agreed
on
a
concept
right
away
without
signing
anything
or
doing
a
transaction
on
chain
means
absolutely
zero.
In
my
opinion,
from
my
understanding
of
reality,
you
mentioned
a
voted
on
a
telegram
poll.
This
poll
has
40
50
votes
and
there's
no
way
to
know
know
if
people
outside
of
Eden
voted
on
this
poll
or
not.
A
If
you're
not
part
of
Eden
join
in
it's
very
cheap
right
now,
prices
might
go
up
soon,
but
right
now
it's
three
dollars
to
join
Eden.
So
three
dollars
a
few
minutes
of
your
time
get
on
camera
say
your
name
say
that
you're
gonna
follow
the
rules
of
the
community,
and
then
you
can.
You
know,
join
on
January,
7
and
vote
and
have
your
view
expressed
right.
A
So
I
think
that's
important
and
then
two
other
comments
you
made.
You
know
you.
People
highlight
the
fact
that
hey
this
donation
is
no
strings
attached
from
block
one
I
mean
if
there
were
any
strings
attached.
This
donation
would
be
the
most
hated
thing
you
know
of
all
the
community.
No,
no
doubt
about
it.
So
the
fact
that
there's
no
strings
attached
is
not
like
a
selling
point.
A
That's
the
bear
really
bare
minimum
required
for
such
a
thing
to
to
be
even
proposed,
in
my
opinion-
and
you
say
no
purpose
on
Burning
Bridges
in
regarding
to
hey,
let's
make
sure
B1
keeps
donating
value
and
assets
to
the
EOS
community
in
community
because
it
does
benefit.
You
also
need
it
and
I
agree
that
there
is
some
benefit
there,
but
in
my
opinion,
that
bridge
is
there,
regardless,
if
we're
nice
or
not,
to
block
one
because
block
one
is
scared.
This
is
the
first
time
that
I
feel
like
block.
A
One
is
scared,
and
you
know
sandbagging
fried,
is
in
jail
right
now.
The
U.S
government
is
looking
deeply
into
crypto
frauds.
In
my
opinion,
the
block,
1
Ico,
was
very
sketchy
and
there's
definitely
a
lot
that
can
be
looked
into.
So
I
think
that
you
know
the
reasonings
that
trimbot
laid
out
in
this
article.
That
seems
likely
to
me
that
seems
plausible
to
me
and
so
I.
Don't
think
it
matters
how
nice
we
are
with
block
one
in
terms
of
is
block
one
going
to
if
they
plan
on
donating
more
in
the
future.
A
I,
don't
think
it
matters
what
we
say
on
Telegram
you
know,
or
in
these
in
calls
really
I.
Think,
like
trombot
says,
maybe
they
have
a
budget
already
they've
got
a
plan,
or
this
was
a
one-time
thing,
although
if
it
was
a
one-time
thing,
it's
very
weird
and
I
don't
understand
the
strategy
behind
that.
F
E
F
It
is
I'm
I'm,
I
I.
Think
Eden
is
the
next
election
is
going
to
be
exciting,
I
hope
to
see
I
think
we'll
see
the
most
participation
we've
seen
since
the
first
Eden
election
I'm,
not
sure
if
it'll
be
more
people
participating
than
the
first
one,
but
I
believe
it
will
be
higher
participation
than
any
of
them.
Since.
L
Definitely
it
it
should
be.
I
mean
Stefan
started
right
off
with
the
correct
commentary
that
he's
going
to
get
involved
and
if
I'll
just
say
that
you
can't
impact
any
of
this
because
individually,
no
one
in
here
likely
has
any
effect
on
the
lawsuit,
whether
or
not
it
will
go
through
or
anything
about
it.
So
how
can
you
impact
any
of
this,
be
it
that
eat
an
election
going
to
Eden
get
involved
because
look
it
look
at
the
highest
donation
on
the
pomelo
pitches,
I
mean
it's
there's
reason
behind
that.
A
And
with
this
amount
of
money,
like
your
votes
matter,
a
fair
amount
in
even
in
in
round
one
so
I,
don't
know.
If
there's
talk
about
lowering
the
percentage
of
this
distribution
right
now,
it's
15
a
month,
maybe
that's
too
high
with
such
a
large
treasury.
Maybe
it
goes
down
to
eight
percent.
Maybe
five
I
don't
know
who
knows
exactly
I.
Think
the
the
current
CDs
are
talking
about
that
right
now,
but
still
going
to
be
a
couple
thousand
EOS
I.
A
A
So
it's
going
to
be
interesting
to
see
the
the
increase
turnout
and
if
you
want
to
voice
your
opinion
on,
you
know
on
everything
that's
going
on
here
in
the
Eos
ecosystem,
with
block
one
in
Eden
and
the
donation,
and
all
that
your
vote
matters
joining
that
ecosystem.
You
can
directly
decide
which
person
in
your
random
group
of
four
or
five
or
six
people
is
going
to
get
thousands
of
EOS
to
further.
You
know
the
cause
that
they
believe
in
so.
A
Well,
I,
actually
I,
when
I
was
doing
my
donations.
Yesterday,
I
I
removed
a
few
donations
that
I
made
up
donated
to
before
that
are
like
focused
on
building
Eden.
You
know
specific
Tech,
because
I
figure
Eden
has
that
budget
now
and
I
hope
that
these
devs
that
want
to
build
all
these
stuff
on
Eden
show
up
at
the
election.
Get
elected,
get
the
funds
needed
to
to
build
out
those
tools.
So
I
I
think
it's
very
nice
that
there's
now
a
pool
of
funds.
L
Absolutely
even
without
block
one-
let's
say:
let's
say
this
back
fails
and
a
lawsuit
goes
on
and
block.
One
says
you
know
what
I'm
gonna
take
my
ball
and
go
home
and
we'll
fight
it
out
in
court.
See
you
don't
want
to
be
involved
at
all.
It's
very
likely
that
Eden
has
other
tokens
coming
their
way,
so
even
without
80
or
90
million
EOS
from
block
one,
it's
Eden
will
be
something
important
to
evolve.
It.
L
A
If
you're,
not
in
Eden
right
now-
and
you
consider
yourself-
you
know
as
part
of
the
community
you
can-
you
can
definitely
bet
that
whoever
you
know
wins
on
January
7th,
the
Eden
elections
are
going
to
say
that
they
represent
the
voice
of
the
community.
You
know
it's
not
the
entire
Community,
it's
a
part
of
it.
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
are
going
to
show
up
I
think
last
elections.
This
is
like
75
or
something
like
that.
A
You
know
if
it's
only
75
people
showing
up
you,
don't
really
have
a
right
to
say
that
you
represent
the
yaska
MiMi.
In
my
opinion,
you're,
probably
gonna
get
more
than
that
this
time.
If
it's
150,
you
know
they
have
the
more
legitimate
claim
on
that.
So
you
know
make
sure
your
voice
is
heard
whatever.
Whatever
your
interpretation
of
reality
and
the
you
know,
the
recent
donation
get
in
there
make
your
voice
heard.
F
F
This
is
the
right
way
to
go
about
it,
the
more
Edens
the
more
participants
across
all
of
them,
the
better
it
will
be
in
the
more
representative,
the
the
better
it'll,
be
a
better
representation
of
the
EOS
Community
than
it
is
today.
Right
now
it
represents
a
very
small
Subs
as
far
as
the
active
people,
currently
a
small
subset
of
let's
say,
subset,
I
won't
even
say
small
of
the
EOS
Community.
F
If
that's
one
of
the
benefits
that
comes
out
of
this
donation,
then
I
would
say
that
that's
a
positive
I,
don't
think
anyone
will
argue
that
that
having
extra
money
for
Eden
is
a
bad
thing,
I
I
kind
of
align
with
what
trim
said
about
the
the
I,
don't
know
being
overly
gracious
and
thankful
over
it
I
think
was
kind
of
what
corrupt
a
lot
of
people
the
wrong
way,
but
genuine.
Generally
speaking,
the
the
donation
I
see
as
being
a
positive
I,
think
this
next
election
I'm
really
excited
for
it.
F
I
will
be
campaigning
for
the
first
time
and
all
of
the
previous
elections,
I
had
only
basically
bowed
out
in
the
first
round.
Mel
purse
could
speak
to
that
I.
Remember.
My
group
wanted
me
to
move
along
in
the
first
election
and
I
refused
to
go
forward,
but
in
this
particular
one
January
7th
I
will
be
campaigning
and
hopefully
making
it
all
the
way
to
the
unfair
board
seat.
G
Well,
this
has
been
a
very
inspiring
discussion
and
I'd
like
to
share
a
couple
thoughts
about
it
too.
This
is
Dancing
Dragon
first
off
I'll,
add
well
that
that's
awesome,
so
I
I
really
appreciate
your
support
with
the
enf
for
Eden
and
practical
governance
and
I
think
that's
really
cool
that
you're
running
to
beat
you
delegate
to
so
I'm
really
excited
about
that
and
I
hope
you
become
the
chief
delegate
I'm
a
huge
fan
of
your
work.
G
And
then
I'll
also
add
two
so
I
I'm
very
inspired
by
this
discussion
and
I
appreciate
the
thoughtful
and
then
civil
conversations.
It's
really
interesting
to
hear
what
everybody
thinks
and
I'd
like
to
also
take
a
moment
to
reflect
on
this
conversation,
offer
an
opportunity
to
refocus
our
attention
in
a
way
that
I
think
is
more
helpful
for
the
community
and
everyone
in
general.
I
was
actually
writing
out
a
little
message
to
Stefan
that
I'll
plan
on
sending
later
and
just
just
with
some
more
thoughts.
I'll.
G
Keep
it
brief
here.
So
we've
been
talking
for
block
one
and
the
donation
and
court
case
and
all
sorts
of
things
now
for
now,
I
think
over
a
half
hour
or
so
and
before
I
I
know,
I
had
a
lot.
I
know,
I
had
three
announcements
before
which
is
a
lot
to
share
at
once,
but
the
last
announcement
and
the
second
announcement
that
I
wanted
to
share
and
all
three
of
them
really
because
they're
all
about
the
same
kind
of
thing.
G
These
are
genuine
Innovations
that
several,
like
amazingly
talented
builders
in
the
U.S
Community,
have
been
working
on
for
months
and
greatly
help
people
cooperate
and
solve
a
lot
of
the
problems
that
are
caused.
That
will
solve
a
lot
of
problems
in
the
world
and
also
are
at
the
root
of
like
the
problems
with
block
one
of
the
year's
committee
that
happened
over
the
past
years
and
so
forth.
So
they're
super
super
helpful,
Innovations
and
I
felt
like
I
was
kind
of
Rush.
Maybe
I
didn't
go
bad
in
the
best
way.
G
Maybe
I
should
have
reached
out
to
Savannah
in
advance
before
I
spoke,
but
I
felt
like
I
was
kind
of
rushed.
I
only
got
like
maybe
five
or
six
minutes
to
speak
totally
and
I
know
it's
kind
of
nowhere
and
I
got
a
timer
on
on
there
and
I
was
I,
wasn't
able
to
share
the
third
announcement.
I
only
got
to
share
the
first
two
announcements
really,
and
there
wasn't
much
discussion
about
it-
wasn't
much
engagement
about
it,
even
though
it's
like
it's
a
really
really
profoundly
helpful
Innovation.
G
What
this
is
with
Eden,
plus
fractal,
and
also
the
valendez
and
the
new
moderation
system.
These
are
things
that
can
really
help
communities
cooperate.
Step
on
mentioned
a
couple
minutes
ago
that
it'd
be
really
helpful
or
something
along
the
lines
of
a
tool
to
help
measure.
The
opinions
of
the
Eden
Community
can
have
the
telegram
poll
isn't
the
best
measure
of
consensus
to
see
who
cares,
because
that's
obviously
open
to
civil
attack
and
there's
lots
of
other
problems
too.
G
So
I
wanted
to
just
bring
that
up
and
just
share
my
thoughts
about
that.
I
think
that
this
is
an
important
and
helpful
thing
for
the
U.S
Community
to
discuss
and
and
think
about,
and
so
that's
what
we
think
about
it.
I
mean
I'm
very
interested
in
these
questions,
with
popcorn
I'm
interested
to
hear
what
everybody
thinks
and
I
see
and
understand.
A
lot
of
the
perspectives
personally
I'm
here
to
build
I'm
here
to
innovate,
then
create
really
helpful
things
to
understand.
A
Good
speech
Dan,
let
me
clear
up
a
few
things
regarding
the
Fireside
schedule.
Joe
Louis,
here
you
know,
staying
in
the
chat
that
the
detour
into
the
Eden
fractal
was
unexpected.
You
know
the
agenda
is
suggestion
doesn't
have
to
be
followed
rigorously.
However,
we
do
often
try
oftentimes
try
to
get.
You
know
guests
on
the
show
to
talk
about
their
projects,
and
sometimes
these
guests
do
have
time
constraints.
A
So
I
try
to
pick
that
into
the
consideration
when
I'm
building
the
schedule
make
sure
the
guests
are
on
time
Etc
so
for
like
then,
when
you
jumped
in
there
earlier
we
were
about
to
go
to
rats.
He
was
like
on
Deck
ready
to
go
and
then
so
that's
kind
of.
Why
sometimes
I
like
to
follow
the
schedule?
There's
always
the
open
mic,
Community
section
at
the
end
of
the
show.
A
So
if
you
know,
if
you
can
wait
for
that
section
of
the
show,
then
maybe
you
won't
get,
you
won't
get
the
hurry
up.
Sound
effect
played
when
you
talk
and
if
you
want,
if,
if
there's
something
that
you
want
to,
you
know
talk
about
on
the
show
you
can
always
reach
out
to
us
to
me
before
the
show
during
the
week.
Hey
can
I
have
a
10
minutes
to
talk
about
this
topic
or
whatever
it
is,
and
then
we
can.
A
We
can
see
where
it
fits
in
the
schedule,
but
either
way
you
know
during
the
community
Open
Mic
section,
that's
always
open
to
anyone
for
them
to
share
their
share
their
projects
and
I'm,
not
gonna
I'm,
not
gonna,
cut
off
people
at
that
point.
If,
if
people
get
bored
and
we
lose
our
our
retention
rate
and
people
can
just
leave
the
show
at
that
point,
you
know
so
I
feel
like
oftentimes
people
join
for
a
lot
of
the
topics
that
are
highlighted.
A
You
know
in
on
the
agenda
so
I,
that's
kind
of
why
I
like
to
get
to
those
first
but
either
way
Dan,
you
know
appreciate
you
jumping
in
and
sharing
your
thoughts
for
sure
and
then
one
point
of
your
speech
there
that
I
wanted
to
disagree
with
is
that
you
say
that
you
know
talking
about
block.
One
is
things
that
are
out
of
our
control
and
why
waste
time
on
things
we
can't
control
I
agree
with
that
sentiment
of
you
know,
don't
worry
about
things.
A
You
can't
control,
because
there's
just
there's,
there's
no
point.
It's
just
worry
and
there's
no
upside.
However,
the
situation
with
block
when
we
do
we
can
control
and
we
do
have
impact
for
sure
a
lot
of
impact.
So
you
know
the
fact
that
anyone
related
to
any
company
from
block
one
and
Boomer
has
to
go
full.
You
know
restrictive
comments
on
Twitter,
because
if
they
tweet
about
any
projects
related,
they
get.
You
know
the
horde
of
the
EOS
Community,
reminding
everyone.
A
What
where
that
money
came
from
that
you
used
to
build
those
products,
that's
very
helpful
to
the
Els
community,
in
my
opinion.
So
it's
definitely
not
completely
out
of
our
control,
and
you
know
staying
on
top
of
the
fact
that
hey,
we
think
block
one
did
us
wrong
and
the
OS
a
lot
more
than
500,
000,
EOS
I
think
is
very
important
and
you
know
that's
going
to
be
part
of
my
I.
Don't
know
proposal
or
belief
system
going
into
Eden
but
anyways.
So
that
was
just
the
one
thing.
G
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
perspective
and
for
sharing
that
as
well.
So
we
can
talk
about
those
details.
I
know
the
time
and
and
I
appreciate
your
perspective,
but
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
respond
to
also
to
what
you're
saying
with
the
timing
so
yeah.
Sorry,
I
I
normally
wait
until
the
end.
If
I
want
to
give
a
speech,
but
it
seemed
like
there's
a
good
opportunity
being
that
we
just
talked
about
pomelo.
G
G
E
E
First,
we
haven't
even
posted
about
it
anywhere
else
yet,
and
this
is
really
not
only
intended
for
enf
internal,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
lot
of
courses
which
are
also
Legacy,
but
a
lot
of
this
stuff
is
meant
for
people
within
the
community
to
come
on
and
try
to
bring
light
to
their
own
things
that
they're
creating
content
creators.
So
if
you
have
educational
material
that
you're
wanting
to
create
Now's
the
Time,
we
will
help
evangelize
you
as
you
help
evangelize
the
network.
A
E
E
I
mean
block
one
strong
us
along
us
being
scatter
strung
us
along
for
quite
a
long
time,
and
it
wasn't
great
conversations
that
we
end
up
having
I
don't
want
to
see
it
happen
again,
I,
don't
like
not
learning
from
my
past
and
I.
Think
we
just
need
to
be
careful.
I,
don't
really
want
to
go
into
any
more
detail
on
that.
That's.
A
Cool,
that's
good
enough
one,
one
of
my
First
Reactions
emotional
reactions
when
I
heard
this
news,
I
don't
know
with
who
I
shared
it,
but
I
was
like
feels
like
an
an
abusive
partner
that
I
got
rid
of
suddenly
just
sends
me
a
rose
by
mail,
and
it's
like
why.
Why
are
you
doing
this?
What's
going
on,
like
I
thought
we
were
done,
we
were
moved
on,
we
accepted
whatever
it
is
that
happened,
and
then
they're,
like
you
know,
just
why.
Why
are
they
doing
this?
That
was
my
first
emotional
reaction.
I.
F
I
had
thousands
of
conversations
at
physical
events
over
the
last
couple
of
months
and
overwhelmingly
like
when,
when
explaining
to
people
the
narrative
like
it
was
a
good
thing
to
where
we
were
at.
Like
we
weren't
talking
about
block
one
anymore,
we
had
moved
on.
We
had
gone
our
separate
ways
and
we
had
come
to
terms
that
the
the
network
needed
to
go
on
its
own
path
and
that's
the
path
that
we
had
been
on
since
last
December.
F
L
I'll,
just
throw
Another
Log
on
the
Fire,
a
Genesis
involvement
since
even
before
launch
actually
and
like
most
a
lot
of
you
guys,
probably
but
I've,
never
heard
a
different
story
than
what
Nathan
and
Zach
mentioned
numerous
times.
What
Stefan
says
in
the
chat
here
that
they
didn't
even
agree
to
talk
to
him.
L
I
I
mean
I
was
deeply
involved
with
conversations
with
the
PVE,
while
they
were
trying
to
get
power
up
running
and
other
initiatives,
and
that
was
like
one
of
the
saddest
things
to
see
that
the
relate
them
getting
involved
with
block
one
took
that
group
of
great
people
out
of
the
ecosystem
like
they
couldn't.
They
just
couldn't
be
involved
with
EOS
anymore
because
of
how
difficult
their
involvement
at
block
one
was
trying
to
get
something
across
the
line.
L
L
A
lot
of
the
foreign
communities
don't
seem
to
have
as
close
an
understanding
as
the
native
English-speaking
communities
when
it
comes
to.
Why
is
Brendan
such
a
a
challenging
conversation
in
the
in
the
western
groups?
Why
is
Dan
Larimer
such
a
challenging
personality
for
the
Western
people
in
the
Eos
chat
groups?
I
I've
thought
about
it,
a
lot
why?
Why
are
they
such
fans
in
a
lot
of
these
foreign
groups
of
these
people?
It
seems
so
clear-cut
for
us,
but
I
can
only
assume
it's
it's
something
Lost
in
Translation
over
the
years.
L
So,
while
we're
all
in
here
with
maybe
50
or
60
people
and
we're
like
yeah,
this
was
our
experience
too.
There's
large
portions
of
the
community
that
that
don't
understand
that
experience
and
so
they're
they're
pushing
in
different
directions
and
they're
they'll
be
part
of
Eden
too.
So
that's
you
just
need
to
bring
bodies
to
Eden
if
you
want
to
be
involved
in
the
future,
I
think
it's
not.
This
isn't
like
some
Doom
saying
thing
like
you
better.
L
A
Let's
see,
let's
see
some
ones
in
the
chat,
if
you're
already
in
Eden,
let's
see
some
zeros
if
you're
not,
and
you
don't
plan
on
joining
and
let's
see
a
plus,
if
you're
not
in
yet,
but
you
want
to
get
in
there
before
January
7th,
a
lot
of
ones.
Couple
pluses
love
seeing
those
pluses
I
mean
not
exactly
the
most
unbiased
sample
of
the
EOS
Community.
We
have
here
with
all
the
OG
regs
of
the
EOS
Fireside,
so
I'm
not
not
really
surprised
by
these
results
but
yeah.
L
Like
for
reference,
the
I
was
gone
two
days
and
I
looked
at
the
the
EOS
main
group,
as
we
call
it,
which
is
other
people
call
it.
The
global
global
group
and
I
missed
in
two
days,
I
missed
like
700
messages,
and
it
was
after
trimbot's,
medium
posts
or
sub
stack,
post
and
Eve
retweeting.
It
is
750,
I,
think
combined
between
EOS
and
the
Eden
on
EOS
group,
maybe
a
thousand
at
best
and
and
two
of
the
Asian
groups
that
I
was
I'm
kind
of
referencing.
F
Address
some
of
that
you're,
like
we
all
I,
think
know
what
and
understand
what
you
said:
the
enf,
so
we've
always
had
enf
China.
We
have
a
trusted
partner
called
dboost.
We
have
a
similar
relationship
to
them,
as
we
do
with
zaisan
for
the
conferences.
Dboost
is
a
trusted
partner
that
represents
the
enf
in
China,
Myra,
Wang,
OG
and
EOS
she's
kind
of
the
CEO
of
it
and
has
a
team
of
over
10
people
working
full-time
in
EOS,
but
they're,
not
necessarily
internal
to
the
enf.
F
We
just
hired
our
Community
lead
Community
manager
for
the
Chinese
Community.
She
started
on
Monday.
Many
of
you
may
already
know
her.
Her
name
is
Beatrice
Wang
she's
been
with
start
EOS
for
the
last
three
years,
or
so
she
stepped
down
from
that
position
to
join
the
enf.
One
of
her
top
initiatives
with
the
enf
will
be
to
organize
the
block
producers
and
coordinates
regular.
F
What's
going
on
in
the
Eos
community,
we
will
be
inviting
Community
leaders
from
outside
of
the
enf,
obviously,
teams
leading
things
such
as,
let's
say,
pomelo
or
any
of
the
working
groups,
and
every
month
we
will
coordinate
these
summits,
it'll
be
open
to
questions
and
answers
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
it.
It's
she
just
started
on
Monday.
It's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
prepare,
but
I'm
really
excited
to
share
that
information
in
the
news.
A
We've
got
a
poker
tournament
coming
up
this
weekend,
so
we're
organizing
our
the
second
Community,
the
second
edition
of
the
EOS
Community
poker
tournament,
going
on
this
Sunday
11
A.M
Eastern.
Let
me
get
some
promo
materials
for
you
guys
here
share
in
the
chat,
there's
a
little
sign
up
form
for
everyone
to
go
fill
out,
and
then
you
send
me
a
message
on
Discord
and
that's
how
you
get
to
play
so
buy-in
is
free,
there's
no
cost!
A
All
you
got
to
do
is
have
any
else
account
join
the
Discord
server
and
then
send
me
a
PM
and
then
I'll
be
sending
out
the
tournament
link
and
personal
invite
code
for
everyone
in
the
two
hours
leading
up
to
the
tournament
on
Sunday.
So
there's
500
EOS
to
be
one
that
you
cannot
keep,
unfortunately,
but
you
can
donate
to
a
grant.
This
is
outside
of
the
matching
pool
just
a
straight
old
classic
donation
to
public
good
on
EOS.
A
So
if
you're
a
grant
Creator,
you
can
definitely
get
in
there
and
try
to
win
some
EOS
to
donate
to
your
grants.
There's
also
a
bunch
of
nfts.
Everyone
who
participates
will
get
pop
tokens
tons
of
party
crackers
tons
of
new
nfts,
we're
doing
for
the
community
promos
pomelo
astronauts,
all
sorts
of
good
stuff
and
yeah.
Overall,
it's
it's
a
pretty
good
time.
A
I
think
I
may
be
able
to
play
this
time
around
excited
about
that
tournament's,
Gonna
Last
about
two
hours
or
so,
depending
on
how
many
people
show
up,
of
course,
but
yeah
so
send
me
a
PM
on
Discord.
That's
basically
the
first
step
to
get
in
here
or
fill
out
the
the
sign
up
form
as
well,
which
explains
the
sign
up.
A
So
there's
you
can
play
from
any
device
any
mobile
desktop,
Windows,
app
or
whatever.
It
is
poker,
now.club
very
easy
to
create
a
free
account
from
any
of
these
devices
and
jump
in
you
can
hang
out
with
us
on
voice
chat.
If
you
want,
if
you're
a
trash
talk
your
fellow
EOS
community
members
as
you
Bluff
them
or
Bluff
catch
them,
the
highly
highly
encouraged
or
you
can
just
be
playing
on
your
phone
there,
while
doing
whatever
it
is.
A
You
you
do
on
Sundays,
that's
fine
too,
yes,
and
then
other
than
that.
There's
another
Community
promotion,
EOS
holiday
giveaway
that
was
announced
this
morning
on
the
enf's
Twitter
account.
Let
me
find
that
link
so
we're
helping
enf
run
this
promo
kind
of
combining
a
lot
of
the
EOS
daps
that
exist
out
there
into
a
fun
little
promo,
giving
away
1500
EOS
worth
of
prizes.
A
On
top
of
all
these
cool
nfts
that
are
custom
made
for
this
contest
we
got
prizes,
we
got
prizes
and
surprises,
for
you
guys
is
the
prizes.
There's
there's
three
weeks
of
contests
prizes
get
better
every
week
and
so
yeah
just
follow
the
EOS
Network
Foundation
Twitter
account
for
more
details
and
to
join
that
contest.
A
Yeah,
let
me
share
the
link
here
to
the
Poker
Club
poker
now.
Dot.
Club
is
the
platform
we
use
all
right.
If
anyone
has
anything,
they
want
to
share
Community
Open
Mic,
it's
kind
of
been
already
Community
Open
Mic
for
a
while,
which
is
making
it
official
get
in
there
share
your
updates.
Ask
your
questions
share
your
thoughts.
A
A
A
No
I
don't
see
the
countdown
anyways
over
12
hours
left,
not
long
get
in.
There
donate
realize
that
you
know
these
matching
amounts
that
you
see
here
is
going
to
change
potentially
significantly
potentially
not
I,
don't
know
I'm,
not
part
of
the
team.
That
does
the
Cyber
analysis,
but
but
yeah
good
luck
to
everyone
on
pomelo.
N
N
I
really
wanted
to
just
ask
him:
he
needed
the
word
detriment
a
lot
and
it's
still
unclear
to
me
kind
of
what
the
detriment
is.
You
know,
I
guess
from
my
own
perspective,
I'm
wondering
if
there's
value
the
community
yeah
as
we
have
it
here,
it's
very
diverse
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
personalities
and,
what's
the
detriment.
E
N
N
N
It's
a
lot
of
us
are
just
guessing
and
finding
sort
of
coincidences
and
things
we
don't
know,
and
so
in
that
case
like
what,
if
there's
a
group
of
people
in
the
community
that
continues
to
you
know
receive
money
from
B1,
some
might
call
it
extracting
some
might
call
it.
You
know
just
receiving
the
money
and
and
being
able
to
do
good
things
with
it.
N
K
Yeah
so
I'm
back
on
Mike.
Can
you
guys
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
great
I,
think
I
caught
when
you
said
I
may
have
missed
parts
of
it,
so
I
apologize.
If
this
doesn't
totally
answer
your
question,
but
just
so
I
I
understand
what
your
question
is.
If
your
question
was
essentially,
what
is
the
downside
to
sort
of
accepting
the
funds?
K
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
downside
to
accepting
the
funds.
But
if
your
question
is
what
is
the
downside
to
sort
of
like
welcoming
block
one
back
sort
of
saying,
thank
you
giving
them
the
sort
of
positive
PR
and
taking
our
foot
off
the
break
per
se
in
terms
of
pressuring
them
to
uphold
their
commitments
that
benefits
block
one
for
two
or
three
different
reasons.
K
K
K
His
crimes
were
known
for
a
really
long
time.
It
was
in
the
public,
but
there
wasn't
really
the
motivation
of
momentum
behind
it
and
that
motivational
momentum
behind
it
is
a
big
deal.
Second,
I
hope
that
this
res
this
situation
is
resolved.
Amicably
I
mean
if
it
comes.
If,
if
somebody
made
did
something
illegal
and
criminal
and
winds
up
in
jail,
that's
horrible
for
for
them,
but
it's
probably
Justice
but
absent.
That
I
think
it's
better
for
everyone
involved
that
there's
a
real
settlement
reach
rather
than
following
through
with
illegal
action.
K
Legal
action
is
a
really
long
time.
It's
really
expensive.
It's
really,
you
know
draining
and
there's
a
lot
of
ways
to
sort
of
circumvent
the
process
and
to
make
the
sort
of
plaintiffs
like
miserable
in
the
in
the
whole
situation
too.
Lastly,
on
top
of
that,
positive
PR
is
necessary
for
Block
one
right
now
they
are
getting
annihilated
with
negative
PR
and
that's
why
they
showed
vulnerability
by
making
the
donation
so
really
what
what
I
guess
the
detriment
is
to
EOS.
K
If
I
was
really
going
to
summarize
this
answer
into
one
specific
like
pinpoint
it,
the
detriment.
Is
the
EOS
Community
risks
normalizing
a
donation
of
a
few
million
dollars,
rather
than
going
through
the
jugular
and
getting
what
they
are
owed,
which
is
many
millions,
if
not
billions,
of
dollars,
and
so
it
doesn't
make
so
facto
prevent
legal
action.
I.
O
Would
like
to
add
to
that
so
I'm
with
the
enf
I'm,
their
senior
growth
marketing
manager,
I'm
coming
I
have
no
background
with
blocked
one
or
the
enf,
no
history
with
either
of
them.
Coming
with
a
clean
slate.
One
of
the
things
that
I
read
about
EOS
when
I
was
getting
into
the
ecosystem
was
how
block
one
had
failed
them
and
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
negative
PR
around
block
one.
So
from
a
marketing
PR
perspective.
O
F
The
tours
have
been
opened
up
since
breaking
away
from
them
in
December.
The
media,
for
example,
hates
block
one,
the
crypto
media,
and
it
took
a
lot
of
educating
like
coindesk
coin
Telegraph,
the
block.
It
took
a
lot
of
conversations
with
these
journalists
and
educating
them
that
EOS
is
not
block
one
because
they
were
so
closely
tied
together
for
the
longest
time
that
we've
been
carrying
that
burden
and
that
reputation
around
with
us.
So
I.
F
O
K
K
The
community
is
great,
there's
a
lot
of
different
great
things,
but
the
story
there's
nothing
more
powerful
than
the
story.
The
story
Powers
it
and
I
think
that
this
story
has
multiple
potential
different
next
chapters
and
if
the
next
chapter
is
that
you
know
the
EOS
Community
was
wrong
and
sort
of
just
did
whatever
it
kind
of
like
like
it's.
It's
okay,
like
you
move
forward
and
so
on,
and
maybe
you
still
make
that
comeback,
but
most
people
in
the
industry
go
that's
pathetic
and
I
think
that
it
is
pathetic.
K
K
If
block
one
wants
to
adhere
to
their
commitments,
I
would
be
willing
to
reconsider
sort
of
my
Hardline
towards
block
one,
but
until
they
do
so,
we
can't
sort
of
give
them
a
free
pass
by
doing
the
least
painful
route
for
them
when
we
have
other
options
and
so
rather
than
looking
at
this,
in
my
opinion,
at
least
as
option
A,
is
we
get
a
little
bit
of
money
for
Block
one
and
option
b?
Is
we
get
in
this
long-winded
fight?
K
It
distracts
everyone,
and
maybe
one
day
we
get
something
I,
don't
look
at
the
options
that
binary
sort
of
two
choices.
I
actually
look
at
this
something
different.
The
two
choices
are
block.
One
pays
very
little
or
block.
One
pays
a
lot,
but
either
way
this
ends
with
block
one
pay,
and
when
you
look
at
it
through
that
vantage
point,
it's
pretty
clear
that
you
want
to
get
most
money
possible
rather
than
the
least
money
possible
by
normalizing
it
accepting
it.
K
N
I
think
I'm.
Sorry,
the
gal
who
chimed
in
really
appreciate
your
perspective
and
and
trim
articulate
as
ever
I
guess.
Is
it
binary
I
like
that
I
mean
I,
guess
that's
what
I'm
struggling
with
I
mean
if
it's
a
lot
of
money
plus
a
little
money,
isn't
that
better
than
a
lot
of
money
or
a
little
money,
I
mean
if
it's
like
a
billion
plus
500k
or
a
billion
I
I.
N
Guess
I,
don't
understand,
I
mean
point
taken
about
extracting
you
know
taking
B1
out
and
then
that
being
well
received
by
the
community
and
narrative
driving
adoption
and
sentiment.
That's
huge
and
I
totally
agree
with
that.
It's
the
lawsuit
side
or
I.
Guess
the
from
your
perspective,
trimbot
the
the
side
of
like
engaging
with
one
somehow
undermines.
N
K
Let
me
let
me
give
a
brief
follow-up
to
that,
so
the
first
one
regarding
the
lawsuit,
how
it's
undermined,
it's
not
actually
undermined
as
nullified.
It's
just
undermined
in
the
sense
that
if
you
go
to
the
court
and
say
hey,
they
promise
to
you
know
be
a
part
of
the
ecosystem
and
to
reinvest
in
it
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
And
then
they
go.
What
do
you
mean?
We
just
donated
500k
here
500k
there
500A
there
and
we
intend
on
following
through
with
our
promises.
Just
taking
us
longer
than
expected.
K
A
N
It's
totally
different
right,
we're
talking
about,
and
so
like
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
your
argument
around
the
the
legal
ramifications
of
things
I'm,
just
not
tracking,
but
I
really
appreciate,
I,
think
how
you
put
things
together:
I'm,
just
not
tracking
that,
but
the
the
sentiment,
narrative
side
of
things
and
the
gallon
zap,
who
spoke
up
that
I,
buy
that
you
know
that
sounds.
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
My.
K
K
All
we
know
is
that
block
one
is
maybe
not
a
hundred
percent
clearly,
but
seems
very
likely
that
they
seem
to
be
a
little
bit
fearful
based
off
of
their
actions
and
there's
a
saying
sort
of
when
you're
in
these
types
of
negotiations
or
they're
adversarial
that
when
you
have
leverage
use
it
and
block
one
has
leverage
and
used
it
against
the
EOS
Community.
For
the
first
time
in
a
very
long
time,
the
EOS
Community
now
has
leverage
against
block
one,
that's
sort
of
the
reality
of
what
happened
by
the
class
action
lawsuit
being
rejected.
K
So
if
you
don't
trust
me
or
don't
believe
me
or
agree
with
me,
maybe
just
ask
yourself
what
actually
motivated
block
one
to
make
this
decision.
Do
you
think
it
really
came
from
the
good
of
their
parts
or
is
it
coming
from
a
place
of
fear
and
I
can't
say
definitively?
It
came
from
a
place
of
fear,
but
I
can
speculate
that
it's
very
likely
that
it
came
from
a
place
of
fear.
N
I
think
the
response
of
some
folks
would
be
like
it
doesn't
matter.
Who
cares
right?
I
mean
let's
say
it
did
come
from
Fear.
Let's
say
that
all
of
a
sudden
as
you
as
you
say,
you
know,
the
judge
rejecting
the
settlement
has
driven
them
to
have
to
strategize
and
how
to
deploy
25
million
dollars
that
they've
already
budgeted
for
it
great
right
so
now,
they're
gonna,
they're
gonna
continue
sprinkling
half
million
dollars
here
and
there,
and
yet
the
enf
lawsuit
is
going
to
persist.
You
know.
N
And
and
that
will
not
be
affected
one
way
or
another,
and
so
you
have
a
few
community
members
who
are
willing
to
engage
with
block
one
who
have
maybe
ulterior
motives,
who
are
now
being
driven
by
fear
to
to
to
to
to
to
show
to
whoever
right
that
they're
now
a
good
player,
but
it.
But
it
doesn't
like
in
either
case
you
actually
kind
of
make
away
with
more
rather
than
less.
But.
I
N
K
So
I
should
focus
on
on
the
point
he
made
because
I
think
it's
you
know
there
is
room
for
both
sides
of
the
debate.
I
just
presented
my
perspective
and
I
was
hoping
that
if
anyone
had
a
contrarian
perspective,
they
could
you
know,
share
it
and
we
could
discuss
it
like
we've
done
today,
and
so
this
is
good.
K
So
you
made
the
point
you
know
like:
what's
the
actual
upside
and
the
pressure
in
them
and
I?
Guess,
that's
really
the
source
of
your
question,
you're
of
the
belief
that,
where
you're
suggesting
that
this
doesn't
impact
the
lawsuit,
so
this
is
just
the
cherry
on
top
and
I.
Think
there's
some
truth
to
that.
But
really
what
it
is
is
it's
the
motivation,
the
time
frame
and
the
amount,
and
so
if
they
think
that
they
can
get
by
with
25
million
dollars
and
string
us
along
over
three
or
four
years.
K
You
know
that's
in
their
benefit,
but
if
they
really
feel
pressure,
if
they
really
think
you
know
what
we're
kind
of
here
like
we
have
no
choice
but
to
give
in
are
they
really
gonna
fight?
This
long
legal
battle
drag
their
feet,
make
everybody
at
the
enf
or
whoever
else
is
participating
in
the
lawsuit
life
of
living
hell
in
between
then
and
now
or
instead
are
they
just
gonna
say
you
know
what
this
isn't
worth
the
hype
for
us
like?
K
Let's
just
do
what
we
promise
it
sucks,
but
our
alternative
is
to
be
forced
to
do
that
and
then
lose
on
top
of
that.
So
there's
sort
of
both
sides
like
the
fact
that
they're
trying
to
go
public
with
bullish.
This
negative
PR
from
the
EOS
Community,
was
listed
directly
as
a
risk
factor
in
their
perspectives
that
they
filed
with
the
SEC
for
the
merger.
It
tells
you
very
clearly
that
they
are
worried
about
this,
like
they
can't
get
away
from
it.
K
I
think
that
fpac
murder
has
been
delayed,
largely
because
of
the
momentum
created
by
the
US
Community,
not
saying
that's
the
only
reason
it
may
actually
not
be
factually
accurate,
either
I'm
just
speculating,
but
it
seems
quite
likely,
especially
considering
the
list
of
that
as
a
risk
factor.
So
when
you
have
leverage,
if
you
want
to
use
it
for
your
own,
gain
to
reach
the
resolution
that
you
would
otherwise
still
still
reach,
but
it
would
take
10
years
to
reach
it's
probably
a
better
thing
to
get
it
done
now.
O
O
So
as
long
as
we
continue
to
involve
block
one
in
this
narrative
and
as
long
as
block
one
has
that
history
of
not
delivering
for
Eos,
you
know
yeah
it
just
it
makes
it
a
lot
harder
for
the
people
who
are
doing
marketing
for
the
people
who
want
to
drive
adoption
for
the
people
who
want
to
bring
EOS
to
the
whole
world
to
do
their
jobs.
And
again
this
is
not
an
attack
on
block
one
I
do
not
know
a
single
person
from
block
one
and
I
clean
slate.
Coming
with
a
clean
sleep.
F
F
F
So
just
keep
that
in
mind
too,
because
I
throughout,
like
the
last
week
and
a
half
of
seeing
all
the
chats,
I
I,
never
saw
that
part
factored
in
and
that
that's
a
very
important
factor
to
me
personally,
because
I
only
knew
my
side
of
the
story
for
the
last
five
years.
But
hearing
the
other
side.
It
honestly
made
it
worse
if
you,
if
you
could
believe
that
and
like
someone
Joe
Louis
brought
up
like
EOS
New
York
earlier,
like
being
at
block
one
like
crushed
Kevin
Rose's,
oh,
like
I,
I,
I,
I,
I.
F
G
K
If
sometimes
or
you
know,
maybe
Brennan's
a
shitty,
CEO
I,
don't
know
we're
like
those
types
of
things,
I
think
we
have
to
lump
into
one
bucket
and
then
another
bucket
we
have
to
put
along
into
this
caused
severe
damages
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
a
lot
of
different
people
for
different
reasons
and
when
somebody
illegally
causes
damages.
Typically,
that
can
be
both
civil
and
maybe
criminal,
active
and
I.
Think
that
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
you
know
is
what
some
Executives
at
block
one
did
both
criminal
and
civilly
like
illegal.
K
So
it's
going
to
be
really
interesting
to
see
how
the
situation
develops
over
the
next.
However
long,
my
point
is
really
that
I
hope,
if
you
at
least
read
the
article,
you
understand
why
I
think
it's
important
to
pressure
and
not
to
just
say
thank
you
and
accept
handouts,
because
they
will
probably
not
be
too
reluctant
to
hand
out
25
million,
but
if
they're
pressured
enough,
that
might
be
250
or
500
million
in
a
pretty
short
time
period.
F
It's
also
any
Capital
so
going
back
like
when
this
happened.
It
brought
back
flashbacks
of
last
December
and
during
the
negotiations
and
the
like
12
proposals
and
counter
proposals
back
and
forth.
One
thing
that
was
never
on
the
table.
That
was
the
number
one
thing
being
asked
for
in
those
negotiations
was
external
Capital
into
the
ecosystem.
F
So
if,
if
the
the
community
sentiment
is
to
ramp
up
pressure,
then,
like
just
keep
in
mind,
like
external
capital,
is
kind
of
the
thing
that
they've
refused
to
do.
That's
why,
throughout
the
negotiations,
the
only
things
that
block
one
was
willing
to
negotiate
on
was
the
EOS
ioip,
which
they
destroyed
its
reputation
of
over
the
years
of
neglect
to
live
up
to
their
promises
on
it.
F
And
then
the
other
thing
was
their
EOS,
their
unvested
EOS
that
belong
to
the
network
in
the
first
place,
as
with
any
unvested
shares
or
options
or
tokens,
in
this
case
in
any
company
when
an
employee
is
fired
or
quits,
they
are
not
entitled
to
that,
but
those
were
the
only
things
that
were
being
negotiated.
Those
were
the
only
things
that
were
on
the
table,
and
that
was
not
the
request
of
the
enf
when
negotiating
on
behalf
of
the
block
producers.
M
Also
add
like,
as
someone
from
block
one
I've
been
listening
to
this
conversation
very
intently
and
really
wishing
I
could
participate,
but
I
can't
so
ask
me
again
in
2024
September
2024,
but
if
I
mean,
if
they
broke
laws
or
you
know,
I
mean
if
they
broke
laws,
then
I
could
participate.
So
I
don't
know.
That's
just
interesting
to
me,
like
I've
thought
about
maybe
an
amethyst
curate
brief
or
something
but
there's.
M
N
N
What
makes
you
think
if
they're,
if
block
one's
Mo
from
the
very
beginning,
has
been
that
their
decisions
are
driven
by
legal
and
being
extremely,
you
know
tight
about
offering
anything
at
all
and
I
was
I've
been
tracking
this
for
years
and
years
and
years.
You
know,
listen
to
all
the
all
the
conversations
and
no
one
would
argue
that
they
have
not
been
a
good
faith
player
in
in
all
this,
but
I'm
curious.
Why?
You
think
that
us
the
community
continuing
to?
N
K
K
N
It
can
you
pause
there
yeah.
Can
you
pause
there
and
like
and
expand
on
that
like
extrapolate
and
make
this
go
faster
and
I
totally
and
I
think
everyone
would
agree?
No
one
wants
this
any,
and
no
one
wants
contentious
negotiation
to
drag
on
indefinitely.
We
know
block.
One
is
very
good
at
that,
but
tell
me
more
about
how
leverage
and
pressure
will
extrapolate
more
money
more
quickly,
such.
K
Maybe
because
the
more
negative
PR
they
have
the
harder
it
is
for
them
to
go
about
their
business,
the
more
likely
it
is
that
people
support
the
movement
and
which
leads
to
more
pressure
against
them
and
I.
Guess,
like
the
best
analogy,
I
can
really
offer
you
is
if
there
was
a
criminal
on
the
run
and
they
were
in
hiding-
and
you
know,
they're
being
investigated
and
eventually
they're
found
I'm
sure
that
would
happen
regardless.
K
For
them
and
their
solution
is
to
follow
through
with
their
commitments,
and
so
they
can
drag
their
feet
and
and
moan
and
take
you
know,
10
years
or
five
years
or
seven
years,
whatever
that
may
be,
and
I
don't
have
I'm
a
privy
to
the
enf
legal
action.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
criminal,
if
it's
civil,
if
it's
related
to
the
class
action
or
unrelated,
like
I,
really
don't
know,
but
all
I
do
know
is
there's
a
reason.
Block
One
turns
off
all
of
their
comments.
K
If
they
didn't
care,
they
wouldn't
turn
off
their
comments.
There's
a
reason
that
block
one
reacted
the
way
they
did
when
the
class
action
was
you
know
rejected.
Otherwise
they
wouldn't
have
followed
through
most
likely
with
you,
know,
funding,
and
so
it's
very
clear
from
block
one's
actions.
What
they're
thinking,
at
least
in
my
opinion,
and
so
if
you
just
sort
of
extrapolate
that
thought
process
it
demonstrates
they
are
worried,
and
this
does
affect
them
negatively.
N
N
So,
just
to
think
out
loud
for
a
second,
so
you're
saying
that
and
I
I
see
it
all
right.
They
turn
off
all
the
comments.
They
can't
because
the
moment
Bloomer
posts,
something
it's
just
a
flood
of
negative
negativity
right
and
you're,
saying
that
that
that
impedes
their
ability
to
conduct
business
which
I
have
no
doubt
it
would
I
think
anyone
who
does
a
modicum
of
research
on
block
one
and
is
looking
for
possible
employment.
N
You
wouldn't
want
to
join
where
you
may
lose
me
is
I.
Guess
the
the
assertion
or
like
the
you
know,
you,
you
think
that
the
possib
there's
a
possibility
of
them
relenting
from
that
pressure,
and
so
I
guess
I'm,
just
trying
to
think
out
loud
here
if
there's
I
would
suspect-
and
maybe
we're
both
kind
of
speculating
here.
N
The
Cherry,
as
you
say,
as
you
articulate
very
very
well,
you
know
I
think
that's
a
great
image
as
far
as
narrative
goes
and
I
think
you
trim
were
very
good
at
the
very
at
the
outset
of
you
know:
hashtag
the
new
us.
You
know
you
do
a
really
good
job
with
marketing
and
and
I
agree,
and
no
one
would
argue
that
the
community
net
is
now
in
charge
more
or
less
right.
There's
there's
nuances
there
block
one
is
not
like
you've
taken
over
the
code
base.
There's
Antelope!
N
There's
all
these
there's
all
these
very
clear
signals
to
the
world
that
block
one
is
no
longer
in
charge
of
the
OS
and
that
can't
change,
there's
no
way
that
Lachlan
can
assert
themselves
as
being
the
leader
of
this
community
anymore
and
so
and
so
I
guess
I'm.
Just
kind
of
hung
up
on
your
assertion
that
being
antagonistic,
continuing
apply,
negative
pressure
will
yield
more
funds
outside
of
the
ongoing
litigation.
You
know
and
I'm
sorry,
if
I'm
beating
a
dead
horse
at
this
point.
K
Well,
let's
put
it
this
way:
they
settled
the
class
action
and
made
an
offer
to
settle
for
25
million.
They
made
an
offer
to
settle
with
the
SEC
when
the
SEC
was
investigating
them
again
for
25
million
block.
One
clearly
prefers
to
have
these
matters
settled.
They
don't
want
to
admit
to
wrongdoing.
They
don't
want
to.
You
know
like
legal
action.
K
There
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways.
This
thing
can
play
out
a
lot
of
different
ways.
Pressure
can
work,
but
ultimately
my
point
is
essentially
that
by
when,
when
block
one
shows
some
vulnerability,
you
have
to
increase
the
pressure
and
by
increasing
the
pressure,
it's
not
to
the
detriment
of
eosis
to
the
benefit.
I
know:
we've
gone
in
circles
about
whether
or
not
you
agree
or
disagree
on
that
and
that's
fine
I
mean
I.
K
N
Let
me
ask
you
this:
what
is
the
nature
of
pressure
that
you
suggest,
let's
say
negative
pressure,
because
because
positive
pressure
we
know,
like
you
know
whatever
Chris
Barnes
did
and
Helios
whatever
you
know,
whatever
Brock's
relationship
is,
you
know
it
yielded
five.
You
know
half
million
dollars
great.
So
let's
say
we
we
go
all
in
on
the
trimbot
strategy
and
continue
to
apply
naked
pressure.
Now
he's
blocked.
All
of
you
know
all
of
basically
all
of
EOS
on
his
social
media
on
on
bullish's
social
media.
Whatever
it
is,
we
can't
troll
them
anymore.
O
Yeah
I
was
just
going
to
say:
it's
kind
of
like
a
cost
benefit
analysis
situation.
If
we
ghost
them
or
they
ghost
us,
then
we
continue
our
separate
direction.
We
don't
have
the
block
one
baggage
following
us,
with
the
media
and
PR
and
we're
able
to
Market
EOS
as
a
scalable.
You
know
solution
to
the
real
world
and
not
have
to
worry
about.
You
know
people
wondering
hey,
but
there's
block
one,
that's
directly
involved
with
them,
so
yeah
there's
the
likelihood
that
we
drop
them,
because
you
know
this.
We
antagonize
them
to
the
point.
O
K
And
yeah
I
mean
just
imagine
if
CNBC
starts
reporting
that
you
know
this
company
block
one.
Maybe
it's
a
fraud
similar
to
three
knows
they
start
lumping
Brendan
blumer
into
the
same
category
as
people
like
Sam,
Bateman
freed.
That
leads
to
a
lot
of
negative
PR
negative
attention,
and
it's
not
coming
from
the
EOS
community
directly.
It's
now
coming
from
mainstream
media,
and
so
what
happens
when
CNBC
interviews
Thomas
Farley
and
asks
them
this
company
that
you,
your
company
at
Pac,
is
going
to
merge
with.
Are
you
aware
of
this?
K
You
know
it
it
it
really
and
I
I
don't
mean
to
make
this
of
a
bullish
or
Farley
or
anyone
in
particular
my
that
was
just
an
example.
My
point
is
essentially
just
that
when
the
mainstream
media
starts
talking
about
the
story,
the
story
hasn't
really
gone,
reported
in
the
right
way.
The
closest
example
I'm
aware
of
is
wired,
which
I
wouldn't
exactly
say,
is
mainstream
media.
When
this
is
Amplified
in
the
public
Realm,
they
can't
hide
the
same
way.
O
Hey
I
have
a
question
for
you,
because
you've
been
asking
a
lot
of
questions,
yeah,
so
you're,
agreeing
that
the
narrative
can
hurt
EOS
and,
from
my
understanding,
block
one
donated
500
000.
Would
you
quantify
that
as
being
valuable
enough
to
put
EOS
in
a
position
whereby
it's
considered
a
risky
asset
in
terms
of
the
people
who
are
directly
involved
in
you
know
its
ecosystems
governance?
Is
that
something
that
you're
saying?
Because
it
sounds
like
you
agree
that
the
narrative
could
hurt
EOS
block
ones?
N
Hold
on,
thank
you,
Winford
gosh.
Let
me
try
to
let
me
try
to.
Let
me
let
me
rephrase
the
question
just
so:
I
understand
it
so
you're
asking
like
what's
my
take,
because
your
sense
is
that
I
disagree
with
frim
in
that
maintaining
antagonist
relationship
is
a
bad
thing,
but
sir,
maybe
help
me.
Please
I
want
to
make
sure.
N
L
G
N
O
N
O
N
O
Yeah,
the
narrative
is
that
block
failed,
the
EOS
ecosystem.
He
also
supposed
to
be
the
ethereum
Killer
and
it
is
not.
That
is
the
narrative
in
the
media,
and
you
said
you
agree
that
the
narrative
could
impact
EOS.
So
my
question
to
you
is:
why
are
we
even
arguing
about
you
know
lawsuits
and
whatnot
if
you're
agreeing
that
narratives
will
hinder
the
adoption
of
EOS
as
a
technology
for
real
world
use.
N
I'll,
try
my
best
to
to
respond
and
I
think
I'm
understanding
that
you
you
may
you
may
be
making
an
assumption
that
I
subscribe
well,
I'm,
not
sure
how
to
answer
that.
Yes,
narrative
is
very
important.
Yes,
the
narrative
in
the
media
generally
is
that
block
one
failed
to
uphold
their
commitments.
No
doubt.
O
Not
in
charge
of
the
narrative,
the
media
is
in
charge
of
the
narrative,
and
the
narrative
right
now
is
that
block
one
build
EOS
EOS
is
not
an
ethereum
killer.
So
what
do
you
think
the
implications
of
block
one
coming
back
to
EOS
will
be
as
far
as
the
adoption
of
EOS
when
we
know
that
the
media
has
more
influence
over
adoption
than
the
community
within
this
ecosystem
and
that's
a
fact.
N
K
No
I
can't
jump
in
on
his
behalf.
Please
please
yeah
so
for
winford's
sake,
I
think
that
sorry,
I
I,
don't
know
your
name
mancha
mancha's
point
was
essentially
that
he
agrees
with
the
narrative
side
of
things.
He
understands
why
it's
worthwhile
for
Eos
to
sort
of
combat
block
one
the
whole
Community
seizing
the
network
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
a
type
of
approach
like
he
agreed
that
that's
a
positive
for
Eos.
He
was
asking
more
specifically
separating
narrative
aside.
K
He
was
trying
to
understand
what
value
the
aggression
or
sort
of
you
know.
Pressure
towards
block
one
might
actually
make
in
a
more
direct
way,
and
so
that's
I
think
what
the
confusion
was.
I
think
that
he's
we're
all
on
the
same
page
for
the
most
part,
at
least
that
you
know
the
narrative
for
Eos
needs
to
change
a
little
bit
and.
O
O
My
question
is
more:
why
are
we
even
asking
this
as
a
question
if
we
know
that
EOS
as
a
superior
technology
is
not
what's
going
to
bring
people
to
EOS
it's
the
narratives,
that
we
tell
it's
the
narratives
that
the
people
who
have
the
bigger
networks
tell
which
is
the
media?
So
if
we
know
that
to
be
the
case,
why
are
we
even
debating
anything
else
from
The
Narrative
of.
N
English
I
think
I'm
catching
up
a
little
bit
to
you.
Okay,
I
I
think
so.
At
this
point
it
sounds
like
you're
you're
saying
that,
because
the
primary
narrative
in
the
media
is
that
block
one
failed,
EOS
you're,
saying
that
there's
a
net
cost
there's
a
net
detriment
to
EOS
huge
one,
yes
yeah
to
have
them
back
in
the
picture
at
all,
because
for
you,
the
benefit
of
having
yeah
500.
N
O
N
Yeah
I
will
agree
with
you
and
and
I'll
concede.
Certainly
this
to
a
lot
of
others
who
have
made
this
point.
How
I
can
block
one
out
of
the
picture
for
the
last
few
months
last
year
or
so
has
has
felt
like
a
weight
lifted.
You
know
like
truly
truly
because
the
community
was
mired
in
these
like
fruitless,
circular,
extremely
toxic
conversations
for
years
and
so
having
him
out
great.
N
N
N
O
But
we
can
also
use
past
experience
to
inform
our
future
actions
and
based
off
of
that
I
would
personally
from
what
I've
read
from
the
information
that
I
had
and
like
I
said
I'm
a
new
entrant
into
this
space.
I
have
nothing
to
do
with
block
one
and
I'm,
not
biased
in
any
way
shape
or
form
against
them.
It's
just
based
off
of
the
information
I
have
based
off
of
what
I
read
from
the
media
that
influences
narratives
I
would
not
base
any
future
actions
in
favor
of
taking
a
chance
on
block
one.
N
I
think
I
agree
with
you,
I
mean
I
think
we're
both
in
agreement.
In
that
case,
you
know
the
half
million,
if
we're
to
take
helios's
word
for,
for
it
was
no
strings
attached,
and
so
again
it
goes
back
to
me
what
maybe,
what
I
started
with
with
trim
was
that
like?
What's
the
detriment
you
know
and
I,
take
your
point
completely
Winfred
that
that
just
having
them
out
of
the
picture
makes
it
much
easier.
O
N
N
P
I'm
not
going
to
comment
on
the
on
the
legal
actions.
That
is
things
for
obvious
reasons,
but
I
think
that
the
biggest
one
that
perhaps
is
not
obvious
to
all
is
the
less
you
know
of
the
legal
strategy,
the
less
block
one
knows
of
the
legal
strategy,
the
better
it
is,
and
I
I
invite
everybody
to
think
about
that
for
for
a
period
of
time,
if
you
don't
know
what
the
legal
strategy
is,
how
can
block
one
know
and
that
uncertainty
that
unknown
is
extremely
powerful?
P
Putting
that
aside,
I
disagree
that
there
is
a
no
strings
attached
donation
that
occurred
no
strings
attached,
perhaps
in.
If,
if
you
look
at
or
if
you,
if
you
don't
broaden
The
Horizon
of
what
a
string
can
be,
there
is
no
such
thing
as
a
no
string
attach
action
anywhere
for
anything
regardless
of
a
donation,
whether,
regardless
of
where
we're
talking
blockchain,
there's
no
such
thing
as
an
action
that
occurs
that
doesn't
have
ramifications
somewhere.
Somehow
that
doesn't
impact
the
universe.
However,
you
want
to
look
at
it.
P
That
is
what
we
can
debate
on
and
I
guess
that's
what
people
have
been
debating
on
I've
been
listening
in
for
a
while,
I
wasn't
sure
if
this
was
actually
working
or
not
I'm,
currently
in
transit
in
in
Japan-
and
this
is
the
part
I
think
that
some
people,
because
I
I've,
been
reading
everything
and
I.
As
everybody
knows,
I
read
every
single
chat
as
much
as
possible
in
real
time.
P
Clearly,
biased
and
I
have
my
own
world
vision
and
then
assumptions
that
are
placed
onto
that
world,
but
I
fundamentally
disagree,
and
this
is
the
point
that
this
is
a
no
strings
attached,
because
the
string
itself,
if
it
is
not
known
and
or
the
ramifications
of
that
and
or
what
constitutes
a
string
is,
is
perhaps
what
people
are
a
little
bit
too
narrow-minded
in.
In
think
for
those
who
have
that
Viewpoint.
In
my
opinion,.
N
N
Just
want
to
say
thanks
to
everyone
who
responded
and
Eve,
you
know
for
chiming
in
there
never
spoken
up
in
a
Fireside
here.
So
it
was
a
really
good
conversation,
I'm
sure,
there's
gonna
be
more
along
the
way
and
overall
I
think
everyone
is
doing
just
an
incredible
job.
Good
intentions,
all
around
and
really
looking
forward
to
the
next
eating
election
for
sure.
G
So
something
I
want
to
add
to
discussion
too
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wants
to
respond
to
to
e
for
anybody
first,
because
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
redirection
going
back
to
what
something
trim
said
before
and
I
think
it's
an
important
Point
so
I'd
be
very
interested
if
people
think
but
I
also
want
to
just
also
Echo
what
Candela.
What
Manchester
was
saying
and
thank
you
for
sharing
your
thoughts.
It's
very
interesting.
Your
perspective
and
I
hope
you'll
share
your
thoughts
more
on
these
Fireside
Chats.
G
I
suppose
I'll
go
into
and
I
was
inspired
to
say
here
so
yeah.
So
thanks
in
addition
to
cadilla
trim,
bite
and
Eve
and
Winfred
everybody
for
the
thoughtful
discussions
really
appreciate
it
and
I
wanted
to
respond
to
a
point
that
trimbot
made
I,
don't
know
probably
20
minutes
ago
or
so
and
I
know.
Stefan
also
wrote
some
similar
messages
in
some
of
the
telegram
chats
asking
for
reasons.
Why
block
one
would
fund
Eden
and
I'm
a
little
bit
surprised
that,
like
that,
other
people
don't
see
it
more.
G
G
Funding
for
Eden
explain
why
it's
so
helpful
to
fund,
even
so
I
I'm
landing
at
a
few
different
reasons:
I'm
laying
out
a
business
case
and
the
case
a
moral
case,
a
self-interest
case
entertaining
case
to
explain
it.
So
there
is
some
business
case.
I
know,
I,
remember,
Stefan
shared
some
messages
that
maybe
block
one
doesn't
own,
much
EOS
and
so
forth.
So
maybe
there's
not
much
reason
for
them
to
further
invest.
But
for
one
thing
they
do
have
a
big
reputational
investment
in
EOS
and
EOS
and
even
do
well.
G
Then
that
does
make
block
one
look
better
and
obviously
they
have
a
reputation
problem.
So
that
can
be
very
helpful
and
they
also
do
have
some
EOS
and
they
could
also,
of
course,
I
I,
think
buy
more
as
well
and
they
have
some
Alpha
about
what's
going
on
in
the
community
as
well,
because
they've
been
paying
attention,
so
there
is
potential
business
case.
I,
don't
think.
G
That's
the
main
case
that
I'm
focusing
on
here
and
there's
also
an
entertaining
case
so
I
just
think
that
Eden
in
general,
it
provides
collaborative
content,
creation
tools
and
games
and
also
communities
to
make
amazing
experiences.
Far
more
than
any
of
us
can
imagine
we're
just
like
starting
to
tap
into
the
potential
there's
an
inspiring
quote
that
Elon
must
share
it
recently.
G
Think
it
provides
perhaps
the
highest
leverage
opportunity
to
create
a
more
enjoyable
or
for
everybody,
a
safer
world
for
everybody,
and
that's
for
people
at
block
one
for
people
on
this
call
for
people
who
have
no
idea
what
years
of
black
one
is.
Everybody
wants
to
do.
Well,
everybody
wants
their
family
to
be
safe
and
to
enjoy
theirselves.
They
want
their
friends
to
do
well,
and
so
it
makes
most
sense
since
most
logical
that
block
one
would
fund
Eden,
because
it's
really
helpful
for
Block
one
is
hope
for
everybody.
G
I
don't
know
if
they
see
it
like
that,
but
these
Eden
Cooperative
processes
are
needed
in
the
world
like
they're,
really
really
helpful.
The
world
I'm
sure
everybody
knows
that
everybody
sees
constantly
that
the
world
has
huge
obstacles
and
huge
challenges.
These
are
detailed
well
in
Memorial
animals,
and
we
also
can
see
the
world
deteriorating
and
institutions
not
living
up
to
what
they
need
to
do
and
not
fit
for
the
future.
G
We're
all
on
the
same
Planet
together
and
everybody
wants
to
Survive
and
Thrive,
and
do
really
well
I
I've
been
very
inspired
by
The
Singularity
as
near
for
a
long
time
right
here,
as
well
talks
about
exponential
progress
and
how
the
next
years
and
decades
are
going
to
be
wild
and
there's
also
a
concept
of
the
great
filter
that
most
civilizations
destroy
themselves
before
they
can
advance
efficiently
with
technology,
because
technology
becomes
such
a
powerful
force.
And
if
people
don't
know
how
to
wield
it,
then
the
world
may
not
survive
and
yeah.
G
So
there's
definitely
big
challenges
and
basically
we
need
to
learn
to
cooperate
better.
That's
our
main
goal,
or
one
of
our
main
goals
and
one
of
our
main
highest
leverage
opportunities
both
as
individuals
and
communities
in
a
civilization
and
Eden,
provides
these
Cooperative
processes
and
tools
and
games
to
learn
to
cooperate
better,
and
it
also
provides
the
technicians,
people
who
know
how
to
use
the
tools
and
the
people
who
have
been
studying
this
and
the
people
who
are
really
passionate
about
helping
people
cooperate
with
these
tools.
G
G
So
I
mentioned
it's
an
amazing
process
to
bring
people
together,
to
create
networking
and
to
create
fun
experiences,
to
make
awesome
videos
together
and
to
create
awesome
content
and
to
incentivize
the
creation
of
public
goods
like
we
do
with
pomelo
and
like
eating
them
like
practically.
So
it's
really
empowering
communities
and
it's
really
a
helpful
process.
G
P
For
those
very
reasons,
I
completely
agree
to
that
where
I
question
I,
guess
what
I'm
wondering
from
your
point
of
view,
how
do
you
consolidate
the
block
ones
past
actions
in
general,
so
if
you're
coming
at
it
from,
if
you
were
in
those
shoes,
I
would
see
how
that
narrative
makes
sense,
because
that
is
your
Mo.
That
is
how
you
view
the
world
and
that
would
fit
with
your
prior
actions
so
completely
in
line
with
that.
How
do
you
consolidate
the
Delta
between
the
previous
actions
and
I
mean
the
data?
P
Essentially,
that
is
undisputable
from
the
last
four
years
to
then
making
the
180
degree
turn
to
suddenly
waking
up
and
now
having
a
completely
different
world
view
and
and
then
changing
the
actions
compared
to
the
previous
action,
so
that
that's
the
first
question:
I
guess:
how
do
you
consolidate
that?
How
can
you
make
that
leap
that
suddenly,
that
is
now
the
their
their
okay?
P
That
is
their
reason
for
being
based
on
the
data
that
we
have
before
or
do
you
contest,
I
guess
the
data
that
that
we
have
from
from
the
last
four
years,
and
that
was
always
the
mo.
So
that's
the
first
question
and
and
second
question:
if
you're
able
to
then
make
that
jump,
can
you
that
perhaps
expand,
because
you
make
a
premise
or
you
make
a
statement
that
they've
been
following
along
very
much
so,
and
so
they
understand
the
value
of
Eden
they've.
P
Essentially
they
they,
you
know
you're
in
it
day
to
day
and
a
lot
of
the
people
on
this
call.
I
imagine
are
in
it
day
to
day,
and
so
they
can
see
how
we
got
here
and
perhaps
the
value
of
that
process.
Are
you
also
saying
that,
essentially,
they
are
very
much
spending
a
considerable
amount
of
time
and
resources
in
following
along?
Is
that
also
a
premise
to
make
your
first
original
statement
leading
to
my
first
question.
G
G
For
one
thing,
it's
possible
that
people
can
change
their
minds
and
learn.
So
just
because
somebody
where
block
one
hasn't
done
something
good
in
the
past
doesn't
mean
that
they
can't
do
good
things
now
or
a
good
thing
in
the
future.
They
can
learn
and
learn
from
mistakes.
People
learn
all
the
time.
So
that's
one
possibility,
maybe
they've
just
had
more
time
to
study
it.
Other
people
doing.
G
Well,
it's
input
and
information
and
experiences.
It's
like
now,
there's
been
four
seasons
of
Eden
and
it's
been
going
on
with
a
lot
of
great
Builders
who
are
making
videos
every
week
and
making
content
every
week.
We're
also
doing
the
Eden
practical.
Now
people
are
talking
about
these
Fireside
Sessions,
so
many
cool
things
are
coming
out
of
Eden
too,
as
well
as
tools
that
you
can
see
on
pomelo.
So
basically
people
get
new
information
and
they
can
learn
more
I,
feel
I
I
mean
I.
P
You
well
so
then
it
goes
to
my
second
question.
So
the
premise
to
that
argument
is
that
I
guess
ultimately,
if
there's
one
individual,
that's
the
decision
maker
within
that
entity
that
that
decision
maker
received
new
information
and
or
has
been
following
along,
because
you
mentioned
specifically,
for
example,
the
weekly
eat-in
fractals.
Do
you
believe
that
they
are
watching
those
shows
and
they're
taking
notes,
weekly.
G
P
The
point
implies
that
there
was
a
lot
of
data
inputs
prior
to
right,
so
the
Tipping
Point
is
not
just
one
piece
of
information.
It
is.
It
is
the
sum
of
all
pieces
of
information
that
reach
a
certain
degree
of
inputs
that
then
create
the
Tipping
Point.
So
then
it
goes
back
again
to
my
second
question:
are
they
following
along
so
closely
that
they
can
see
that
mass
amount
of
data
inputs
leading
to
that
potential
Tipping
Point?
P
Because
your
premise
is
that
there
was
a
Tipping
Point,
because
you
also
mentioned
as
a
premise
that
they
were
not
doing
that
previously
or
do
you
believe,
which
then
would
change
the
whole
argument
that
they
were
always
doing
that
so
there's
there
has
never
been
a
Tipping
Point.
That
was
always
the
mo
from
the
start.
That
was
always
the
world
view
from
the
start
that
it
was
always
what
they
were
trying
to
do
from
the
start,
but
for
some
reason
they
could
not
or
or
it
wasn't
being
received
in
that
fashion.
G
P
G
Yeah
well,
I
mean
that's
a
big
point
for
me
was
before
we
met
you.
So
I've
been
researching
this
kind
of
thing
for
the
past
I,
don't
know
10
15
years,
I
learned
about
two
areas
of
the
year
and
a
book
by
Jeremy
diamond
or
something
like
that
about
the
fall
civilizations
and
so
I
just
started
thinking
a
lot
about
existential
risk
and
so
forth,
but
previously
that
a.
P
Lot
of
data
input
right
a
lot
of
data
input,
so
not
a
single
data
input
that
then
it
was.
It
was
a
process.
It
was
a
journey.
It
took
time
a
lot
of
data
input
for
you
to
then
have
that
world
view.
So
then
it
goes
back
again
to
the
second
question:
do
you
believe
that
they've
been
following
along
so
they've
been
accumulating?
All
of
those
data
points
that
led
to
that
sitting,
Tipping
Point.
G
P
G
P
They're,
a
good
actor
in
the
first
place.
I
agree
with
you
on
that.
That
assumes
that
that
works
with
an
individual
such
as
yourself,
where
that
is
the
premise
from
the
beginning.
That
assumes
that
they
are
good
actors
from
the
beginning
that
there's
no
other
agenda
possible
outside
of
being
a
good
actor.
Hey.
M
P
G
All
right
thanks,
Jane
thanks
Eva
and
Jay
I'm,
looking
forward
to
hearing
your
question
later,
yeah
and
thank
you
I'm
very
interested
in
continuing
discussion
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
asking
these
questions
and
inviting
it
so
the
argument
that
I
was
making
or
I
don't
know
if
I
call
an
argument,
but
the
point
I
was
making.
G
Basically
is
it
wasn't
presupposing
that
that
they're,
a
good
actor,
a
bad
actor
I
was
thinking
out
of
basically
self-interest,
if
you
think
I,
suppose
Game
Theory
or
just
obvious,
like
everybody,
wants
good
for
themselves.
Everybody
wants
good
for
their
family.
Everybody
wants
good
for
their
children
and
their
friends.
G
It
doesn't
really
come
down
to
ethics,
whether
somebody's
being
a
good
person
or
a
bad
person.
Just
everybody
wants
those
things
and
when
somebody
is
getting
gathering
information
like
if
you're
at
block
one
and
I
assume
that
they're
under
various
pressures
and
they're,
trying
to
figure
out
solutions
to
their
problems,
to
relieve
their
pressures
and
to
help
improve
their
life
and
to
get
things
that
they
want,
then
they
would.
They
have
a
lot
of
opportunity
being
their
closeness
and
proximity
to
the
EOS.
G
P
Most
important
is
right
there
yeah,
so
what
you
just
mentioned
is
exactly
trim's
point
you're,
just
looking
at
it
from
a
different
point
of
view
that
they
are
looking
at
what's
in
their
best
interest
and
what
works
for
them.
The
difference
is
what
some
people
are
saying.
Is
that
that
reason
is
not
the
same
reason
that
you're
saying
it
is:
it
is
not
for
the
best
of
humanity.
It's
the
cover,
your
ass
reason.
It
is
for
the
potential
legal
implications.
P
It
is
for
that
side
of
things,
but
the
argument
essentially,
and
that
that's
where
you
were
led
to
is
you've,
now
come
to
the
same
essentially
reason
for
them.
Potentially
doing
an
action
is
out
of
some
type
of
self-interest.
What
that
self-interest
is
is
what
is
being
debated.
What
is
that
reason
is
what
is
being
debated,
what
what
I'm
yeah?
P
What
I'm
getting
at
with
this
is
that
they're,
multiple
potential
reasons
for
why
they
would
be
making
a
donation
or
re-entering
the
system
and
to
assume
that
it
is
nefarious,
is
wrong
to
assume
that
it
is
good
is
wrong.
There
are
multiple
potential
reasons
and
what
I'm
seeing
a
lot
for
from
those
who
believe
that
it
has
to
be
or
seemingly
that
that
is
that
that
it
has
to
be
for
good
reasons.
That's
all
I'm
asking
is:
how
do
you
make
the
jump
that
it
has
to
be
for
good
reasons?
P
It
seems
that
those
have
that
position
are
not
open
to
the
idea
that
maybe
it
is
for
different
reasons
than
quote
unquote:
good
and
I'm
I'm
using
good,
because
that's
subjective
for
them,
it
is
good
to
to
cover
their
ass
legally,
would
also
be
a
good
reason
for
them
right,
which
is
a
different
reason
than
why
you
would
do
it.
I
agree
with
the
outcome.
P
The
outcome
is
some
people
received
or
or
a
a
process
has
just
gotten
an
injection
of
funds,
and
that,
ultimately,
is
not
necessarily
what
is
being
debated
now,
there's
two
two
things
that
are
being
debated.
Essentially,
when
I,
when
I
read
the
charts,
one
is
the:
what
is
the
possible
reason
for
that
donation
and
the
other
is
what
are
the
possible
ramifications
of
that
donation
like
what
does
the
future
look
like?
P
What
are
the
next,
if
thens
after
this
and
their
there
are
seemingly
a
strong
presence
of
community
members
that
believe
that
the?
If
then,
subsequent
to
now,
this
donation
potentially
has
a
lower
Roi
than
not
having
received
that
donation
and,
ultimately,
what
I'm
asking
is
for
those
who
don't
believe
or
for
those
who
believe
that
this
is
only
good.
How
do
you
make
that
mental
jump
that
the,
if
then,
has
to
be
positive,
that
there
is
no
realm
of
possibility
that
that,
if
then,
ultimately
is
negative?
P
G
G
Is
that
the
reason
why
they
did
it
and
then
I'm
not
sure
if
I
made
it
clear
but
I'm
not
in
the
camp,
that
or
not
of
the
belief
that
I
think
that
you
believe
that
I
am
that
there's
no
chance
that
they
are
doing
it
for
bad
reasons
or
nefarious
reasons.
I,
don't
think
that
it's
necessarily
true
that
they're
doing
it
out
of
the
goodness
of
their
heart
or
that
they
see
the
long-term
vision
and
that
they're
doing
it
for
everybody's
benefit
and
all
those
things.
G
My
point
was
that
that
should
be
what
they're
thinking
about
and
our
our
job
as
a
community
one
of
our
jobs,
our
comedians
I'm,
focusing
a
lot
I'm,
really
passionate
about
is
communicating
that.
So,
even
if
they
don't
understand
that
right
now
to
educate
people
at
block
one
and
people
around
the
world
around.
Why
Eden
is
so
helpful
and
that's
a
really
great
way
to
focus
tension,
it's
possible
that
they
don't
don't
know.
G
G
Obviously
a
lot
of
people
who
aren't
looking
at
the
world
with
a
great
vision
or
a
pro-social
vision,
that's
helpful
for
people
and
that's
unfortunate,
but
that's
the
way
it
is,
but
we're
all
improving
in
the
way
that
we
improve
is
we
we
talk
and
we
educate
each
other
and
we
make
great
content
to
help
each
other
understand
the
best
route
forward
and
Eden.
So
it's
possible
that
block
one
is
just
acting
out
of
self-interest.
That's
not
interested
in
helping
the
EOS,
Community
or
the
world
or
anybody
else.
G
P
G
P
P
P
G
Well,
I
thought
you
made
a
good
point
about
the
strings.
It
was
kind
of
a
causally
point
that
everything
affects
another
thing.
It's
interconnected
and
and
I
agree
and
I
would
say
it's
also
like
it.
It's
largely
inspired
this
discussion
for
the
past
hour
and
a
half
or
two
hours
or
however
long
we've
been
discussing.
So
obviously
it
had
a
big
ripple
effect
that
I'm
donating,
but
then
what's
the
next
steps,
though,
like
for
me,
do
you
believe?
Okay,
actually,
that.
P
G
Could
be,
but
then
also
I
mean
you
can
look
out
from
the
other
side
too.
It's
inspired
a
discussion
like
it
inspired
me
to
speak
about
how
much
I
how
valuable
Eden
is.
Now
we
have
a
recorded
piece
of
content
that,
like
maybe
share,
and
hopefully
it
helped
Inspire
other
people
and
helped
other
people
see
why
Eden
is
so
valuable.
G
P
P
G
Yeah
but
I
mean
what's
more
important,
is,
is
what
are
you
going
to
do
about
it
in
response
and
I?
Don't
know,
I
feel
like
we're
talking
about
why
they're
doing
it
a
lot
and
in
every
situation.
If
you
wonder
why
somebody's
doing
something
for
you
know
a
couple
hours
or
something
like
that,
that
time
could
also
be
spent
just
fine,
the
next
step
or.
P
If
you
were
to
do
something
altruistic,
it
would
not
come
and
break
down
the
world
that
I've
built
around
who
is
and
what
is
dancing
Joy.
What
people
are
questioning
right
now
is
that
that
action,
if
for
alter
altruistic
reasons,
comes
and
breaks
down,
every
single
data
input
prior
to
leading
to
that
discussion
that
we
had
about
Tipping
Point,
and
so
how
do
you
reach
a
Tipping
Point?
Then
we
go
back
down
to
the
discussion
we
had
before,
but
that
is
ultimately
what
people
are
questioning
is
the.
P
N
This
is
Vince
I
was
speaking
up
earlier,
handle
cue
de
la
Mancha,
but
Vince.
That's
my
name.
If
I
was
you
know
in
many
ways,
you're
hinting
at
things
or
maybe
not
that
you're,
you
made
a
post
on
Twitter
directly
addressing
the
donation,
and
you
mentioned
the
folks
who
sort
of
spearheaded
it.
You
know,
probably
the
Helios
folks,
Chris
Barnes,
Etc
waxah,
and
you
didn't
mention
them
by
name,
but
you
did.
You
know
say
that
those
in
support
of
it
are
being
misled.
N
P
What
I'm
questioning
is
the
reason
for
doing
so,
and
the
way
in
which
the
community
has
been
receiving
that
and
I've
not
actually
said
kind
of
what
my
position
is,
but
that
extra
adjective
that
you
forgot
is
that
naive,
one
which
so
I
said
there
are
multiple
reasons
or
there
are
different
for
the
B1
apologists.
It
seems
like
and
and
just
going
off
memory
I
think
I
said
naive,
either
being
bought
and
or
fraudulent,
because
I
think
that
those
are
the
Realms
of
possibilities.
D
N
I
do,
and
it
certainly
seems
like
you
lean
on
the
side
of
the
negative,
though
I
mean
judging
by
those
adjectives
as
you,
as
you
say,
like
I,
mean
naive,
is
probably
the
lightest
of
them
right.
Are
you
willing
to
kind
of
share
your
opinion
at
this
point?
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
it
has
to
if
it
co-mingles,
with
any
kind
of
like
you
know,
legal
matter
that
you
can't
speak
to,
but
are.
P
P
It
is
sure
I
mean
everybody
knows
that
even
Brendan
flew
down
to
see
me
in
if
I
recall,
is
October
of
2021
October
yeah
anyways
around
that
time,
and
so
you
know
I'm
quite
intimate
with
working
with
block
one
while
I
was
with
EOS
Nation.
We
worked
with
them
to
even
create
pomelo,
for
example,
and
so
I
have
a
lot
of
data
inputs
in
into
what
the
construct
of
either
Brendan
as
an
individual
and
or
block
one
as
an
entity
and
et
cetera.
P
P
There
would
be
Tipping
Point
unless
there
was
a
massive
Tipping
Point
like
it
just
doesn't
add
up
it's
like
you're,
always
going
left
and
somehow
you
now
decided
to
turn
right.
Why
did
you
suddenly
turn
right
after
four
years
of
going
left,
for
example,
and
that
is
what
I'm
trying
to
and
that's
the
that's
why
I'm
asking?
How
do
people
make
that
mental
jump
that
that
perhaps
it
is
not
for
altruistic
reasons?
So
please
help
me
make
that
jump
as
well
as
to
why
you
believe
it
can
only
be
for
altruistic
reasons.
N
N
P
The
positive
Camp,
let's
say
believe
that
this
is
the
case,
but
that
they
believe
that
Eden
is
a
is
a
you
know
is,
is
an
awesome
project
and
they
see
the
future
of
it.
Etc
I,
in
my
opinion,
the
likelihood
that
that
is
really
the
case
seems
to
be
extremely
low,
based
on
the
data
that
I
have
and
I
may
be
wrong,
I'm
open
to
that,
but
it
that
would
be
such
a
huge
jump.
That
would
be
like
a
massive
jump
in
in
in
mental
leap
of
information.
N
P
P
N
Yeah
I'll,
just
very
briefly
in
defense
of
of
the
the
question
of
whether
or
not
B1
cares
about
Eden
I
do
remember
that
early
on
when
Dan
released
his
book
and
then
he'd
be.
You
know,
he
started
the
Eden
Project,
which
obviously
he's
soon
thereafter
abandoned,
but
there
was
a
brief
period.
Brendan
chimed
in
on
Twitter
congratulated
said
that
you
know
he
he
acknowledged
Eden
as
a
process
that
that
could
be
good
revolutionary
I,
don't
know
what
what
terms
he
used
and.
P
P
Gone
no!
No!
No!
No!
No,
actually,
that
that's
where
I
disagree.
I
I,
don't
believe
that
that's
I
won't
use
the
word
schizophrenia,
but
it
to
assume
that
they
are
stupid.
I
think
is
a
flawed
assumption
to
assume
that
they're
doing
things
without
thinking
things
through
and
without
thinking.
What
the
ramifications
of
the
words
and
or
the
actions
will
be
I
think
is
a
flawed
approach.
I
believe
they're
they're,
extremely
smart.
P
P
P
Are
you
saying
that,
if
you're
evil,
you
will
not
get
anywhere
any
point
that
you're
essentially
stopped
in
your
tracks
from
day
one
I
that
I
fundamentally
disagree
with?
It
may
take
time
for
people
to
catch
up
to
you,
which
is
why
we
have
a
legal
system,
but
in
order
to
pull
off
a
potential
crime
and
or
an
action
that
perhaps
is
nefarious
requires
oftentimes
a
tremendous
amount
of
skill
set
depending
on
the
level
of
the
action
and
the
length
of
the
action
in
question.
P
G
N
I
ask
that
we
ground
the
conversation.
Real
quick
I
mean
if
you
want
to
go
in
the
tangent.
That's
great,
but
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
just
ground
it
back
into
the
into
the
B1
thing,
because
that's
I
think
my
area
of
interest.
But
if,
if
we
want
to
go
in
the
other
direction,
that's
okay
too,
but
we
you
know
if
we
can
ground
real,
quick
and
originally
what
I
was
trying
to
get
at
was
that
you
know
I
just
want
to
kind
of
ask.
You
know
Eve
explicitly.
N
N
P
P
If
that's
really
your
position,
I
have
no
idea
where
you've
been
for
the
last
four
years,
because
block
one
was
elevated
and
block.
One
was
supported
tremendously
for
years
on
end
and
so
the
idea
that
they
only
that
they
have
not
been
doing
things
because
we
have
not
been
supporting
them.
That
I
disagree
with
I
I
was
in
I
I've
supported
them
tremendously.
So
it's
not
even
that
that
I
have
not
tried
to
take
that
path.
P
I've
tried
to
take
that
path
for
three
and
a
half
years,
essentially
leading
up
to
all
right
at
some
point.
It's
enough.
The
community
needs
to
take
over
leading
to
the
creation
of
the
NF
like
this.
That
I
fundamentally
disagree
with
what
Eden
does
with
it,
though,
for
example,
that
where
does
Eden
decide
to
direct
those
funds?
P
Obviously,
we
don't
know
because
Eden
is
a
process,
so
it'll
depend
on
who's
there,
but
I
do
see
that
some
people
believe
that
that
should
be
returned,
and
that
would
be
a
strong
signal
whether
or
not
that
signal
will
have
the
intended
effect
that
they
believe
it
will
have
that
I
don't
know,
but
I
can
see
how
that's
a
realm
of
possibility.
That
could
potentially
be
positive.
P
I
would
imagine
we're
I.
Guess
that's
one
of
the
potential
reasons.
Why
would
they
would
be
doing
that?
But
ultimately,
I
think
that
it's
kind
of
along
that
General
line
I'm
not
actually
convinced
that
that's
not
a
bad
idea,
but
I
do
see
that
that's
also
potentially
a
bad
idea,
because
now
you
just
lost
a
lot
of
funds
that
could
have
gone
to
to
do
good,
and
this
is
where
then
talking
about
the
ROI.
P
P
P
I,
don't
know
if
that
really
answers
your
question,
If
you're,
looking
at
a
one.
What
would
I
do
exactly
and
or
do
I
believe
this
is
positive
or
negative
if,
if
you're
looking
at
just
a
one
answer
so
far
from
what
I
can
read
and
then
I
also
have
other
inputs
as
to
why
this
may
be
negative
and
or
positive
for
legal
reasons,
for
security
reasons.
P
What
comes
next
changes,
whether
or
not
in
my
opinion,
it
continues
being
positive
or
if
it
enters
the
realm
of
negative,
it
is
definitely
you're
following
along.
If
that
makes
sense
what
I
just
said.
If,
if
that
makes
sense,
then,
if
not
I
can
clarify
if
you've
got
a
particular
area,
you
didn't
really
follow
along
with.
P
N
It
was
clear
for
me
and
I
think
at
the
end,
what
what
I
read
what
I
take
away
from
you
Eve
is
that
you
are
deeply
suspicious
for
very
good
reason.
Your
you
know
storied
history
with
the
company
deeply
suspicious
of
their
motivations,
and
no
one
would
fault
you
for
that.
But
what
I'm
also
hearing
is
that
you're
open
to
the
possibility
that
the
money
could
be
used
in
a
net
positive
way
when
Fred
was
very
emphatic.
P
P
P
I'm
saying
is,
there
are
other.
There
are
other
things
that
could
be
done
with
those
funds
that
ultimately
I
believe
could
lead
to
a
net
positive
and
the
way
in
which
the
so
the
one
issue
I
have
is
kind
of
the
way
in
which
these
bonds
will
receive
and
they're
saying
that
is
no
strings
attached,
I
that
I
just
call
on
the
no
strings
attached.
Maybe
from
that
here
you
go
we're
not
asking
for
anything
in
return,
but
that's
a
very
narrow-minded
way
of
thinking.
P
What
a
string
is
that
they're
multiple
strings,
and
this
is
what
I
think
some
people
are
trying
to
bring
forward
is.
There
are
multiple
reasons
why
this
could
have
happened,
which
is
not
necessarily
A
here.
You
go
I'm,
writing
it
down.
This
is
the
reason,
but
I
do
believe.
This
is
a
calculated
if
you
call
it
a
donation.
This
action
or
this
donation
was
calculated.
I,
do
not
buy
into
this
idea
that
they
just
woke
up
one
morning
and
did
this.
So
this
is
a
they've
got.
P
An
agenda
is
the
whole
point
and
the
CDs
going
forward
and
the
community
going
forward
will
ultimately
organically,
through
this
process
of
Eden,
come
to
consensus
on
what
they
believe
that
intention
is
or
or
the
motivations
are,
and
that
I
believe
will
influence.
Then
their
next
move
as
to
what
they
do
with
that
and
if,
ultimately,
the
ability
I.
This
is
I
guess
my
belief
if
ultimately,
people
within
this
process
believe
that
this
was
for
a
nefarious
reason.
P
P
I,
what
I
keep
saying
is
I
respect
the
process,
so
it
doesn't
really
matter
what
I
necessarily
believe,
because
we've
got
a
process
to
figure
out
what
people
within
that
Community
believe
I.
Fundamentally,
support
wholeheartedly
and
I've
said
so
repeatedly.
I
believe
that
we've
not
still
yet
tested
this
process
fully.
We
actually
need
to
run
more
elections
more
frequently.
P
We
have
not
run
this
experiment
oftentimes
enough
and
clearly
not
with
enough
people
to
be
able
to
actually
get
to
a
place
where
I
anyways
I
can't
make
that
determination
right
now,
with
the
data
that
I
have
as
to
whether
or
not
this
is
a
viable
new
alternative
to
reaching
consensus,
I
believe
we're
on
to
something.
But
if
you
ask
me
today,
is
it
the
solution?
No,
no
I
can't
make
that
determination
right
now.
What
we
need,
in
my
opinion,
is
to
run
this
process
more
frequently
with
more
people.
P
The
idea,
because
a
lot
of
the
theory
behind
this
idea
of
Eden
was
based
on
the
premise
that
there
would
be
thousands
of
participants
or
a
lot
of
paliers
or
or
thresholds
or
I
guess
tears
to
jump
over,
and
that
is
not
currently
the
case,
and
this
was
also
brought
up
on
in
multiple
occasions.
Is
that
we've
not
really
even
fully
tested
the
process,
let
alone
a
number
of
times
in
the
quality
of
those
times,
because
there's
not
been
enough
participants,
and
so
really
you
could
as
an
individual.
P
If
you
really
wanted
to
exceed
the
ranks
quite
easily
by
default,
because
there's
not
enough
people
not
enough
tiers,
and
even
though
the
people
in
the
first
tiers
on
what
we've
seen
Based
on
data,
the
majority
of
them,
don't
even
want
to
proceed
to
the
next
tiers.
So
by
default
it's
very
easy
to
climb
up
the
ranks.
So
this
idea
that
Eden
in
its
current
iteration
represents
actually
the
will
of
the
community
I
disagree
with
that.
P
But
that
doesn't
mean
that
I
disagree
with
the
process,
that
we
should
stop
the
process
or
that
we
shouldn't
run
the
process
more
frequently
right,
and
this
is
where
some
people
are
trying
to
conflate
my
position.
Oh,
if
you
ask,
then
that
means
you
don't
agree
with.
No,
that's
not
true,
I'm,
I'm,
and-
and
this
is
where
then
I
would
go
back
to
the
this
idea
of
regardless
of
what
I
say.
P
If
you
fundamentally
believe
that
you've
got
a
vision
and
or
they've
got
an
opinion
and
that
it
is
worthwhile
that
this
is
your
vision
for
Eos
going
forward
and
that
you
believe
that
whatever
just
took
place,
you've
got
an
opinion
on
and
you
want
to
shape
the
future
of
the
network.
We've
got
a
process
for
that.
It's
called
Eden
go
and
participate.
P
P
Whatever
that
position
may
be,
we
need
to
run
this
experiment
more
and
more
and
more
to
figure
out
where
this
goes.
We
have
not
done
enough,
yet
we
we've
not
run
it
enough
times
and
not
enough
people
have
participated
each
time
for
us
to
see
whether
or
not
as
a
community
as
a
network.
That
process
is
even
theoretically
still
good
or
bad.
We
have
no
idea.
N
The
only
thing
I
would
say
is
that
my
sense
and
just
I
don't
know
if
anyone's
in
the
call
that
you
know
Helios
team
whatever,
but
my
sense
is
that
they
they
went
into,
hopefully
the
good
winter.
The
conversation
with
black
one
with
eyes,
while
I
open
you
know,
and
whether
or
not
this
is
a
trojan
horse
of
some
kind.
N
P
P
Alone,
which
else
the
loan
doesn't
make
or
break
a
system?
Oh
great
I'm,
just
nigh
it's
good
I'm,
not
saying
it's
negative
yeah
I
would
say.
Is
that
what's
missing
in
Eden
that
why
I'm
making
the
statement
that
it's
perhaps
still
you
know
not
necessarily
said,
is
there's
just
not
enough
people,
it's
people,
it's
people,
actually,
believing
in
this
process
participating
in
this
process,
regardless
of
the
treasury.
That's
there.
N
N
P
Before
the
half
million
dollar
injecting
and
had
I
think
just
under
90
000
left
in
the
treasury,
what
I'm
saying
is
when
it
was
launched?
It
had
I,
don't
recall
the
exact
number,
but
over
a
million
dollars
in
it,
and
so
this
500
000
EOS
is
not
the
most
amount
of.
If
you
do
Fiat
conversion
the
most
amount
of
funds
that
that
Eden
had
access
to.
Oh.
N
I
hear
you
completely
I
mean
anyone
would
see
I
think
after
what
this
is
the
fourth
election
now
coming
up,
Eden
has
evolved
tremendously
and
now
that
you
know
there's
there's
groups,
you
know
that
have
taken
over
the
code
base
and
are
rapidly
evolving.
It
there's
people
who
are
developing
dispute
resolution
and
NTTS
and
all
these
kinds
of
things
it's
like
it's
a
good
place
that
1.5
million
dollars,
I
would
say,
was
well
spent
to
get
eating
to
to
where
it
is
now
now.
N
Obviously,
the
biggest
problem
is
lack
of
people,
but
I
guess
I
don't
mean
to
to
get
into
a
back
and
forth
about
eating
in
itself.
But
you
know
just
really.
My
focus
in
in
chiming
in
in
the
first
place,
was
trying
to
get
a
pulse
on
the
different
perspectives
around
the
B1
contribution,
and
it
sounds
like
perhaps.
P
Where
we
have
a
different
Viewpoint
yeah
is
that
I
think
that
Eden
is
fundamental
to
this.
We
have
a
process
that
can
be
leveraged
to
determine
what
the
will
of
the
community
non-token,
holder,
non-token,
weighed,
Community,
or
that
token
weight
is
not
a
factor
in
we've,
got
a
process
for
that,
and
so
it's
incredibly
relevant
to
whether
or
not
this
or
where
this
goes
like.
We've
got
a
process
to
determine
where
this
goes
use.
P
It
so
Eden
is
incredibly
relevant
to
this
discussion
in
my
opinion,
because
we've
got
a
process
that
we
can
leverage
to
determine
what
the
will
of
the
community
is
now
I'm
using
Community,
because
it's
only
the
community
that
participates
in
Eden,
but
for
those
that
are
not
participating
in
Eden.
There
is
a
mechanism
for
you
to
go,
make
your
voice
heard
and
so
I
think
that
that's
incredibly
relevant
to
all
of
this.
N
Yeah
on
that
point,
I
completely
agree,
no
qualms
with
what
that
statement.
Yeah.
It
wasn't
just
a
matter
of
trying
to
figure
out
what
you
know,
particularly
trimbot,
and
and
being
able
to
pick
his
brain
about
his
article,
but
I
absolutely
agree
Eve.
That
Eden
is
a
very
unique
process
that
can
help
us
reach
a
consensus
among
a
very
small
set
of
stakeholders
in
the
community.
P
P
But
what
I
can
stand
behind
is
to
say,
because
we
don't
know
we
should
test
more.
We
should
use
it
more
and
I
think
that
this
particular
instance
right
now
has
fired
up
the
community
to
have
an
opinion
and
so
previous
to
this
action.
We
didn't
really
have
something
as
big
as
that.
Let's
say
that
could
be
debated
by
that
particular
community,
and
so,
in
my
opinion,
this
is
the
first
time
that
that
particular
Community
will
be
able
to
leverage
a
process.
P
The
process
itself
to
be
able
to
determine
whether
or
not
this
particular
action.
What
comes
next
and
so
I
think
that
that's
incredible
I
think
that
this
opportunity
that
lies
ahead
on
January
7th
is
Monumental
in
what
it
will
ultimately
I
guess
create
afterwards,
and
that's
that's
not
the
right
term.
But
if
you
know
what
I
mean.
P
P
N
Course
very
much,
though,
right
right,
right,
I,
wonder
what
do
you
think
about
making
a
statement
at
the
enf
level
to
that
effect?
You
know
I
mean
like
that.
You
know
the
encouraging
participating
selection,
making
a
a
tweet
to
this.
To
that
point,
you
know
like
make
sure
make
sure
you
turn
out.
You
know
I
you've
articulated
well
here
in
this
space
and
maybe
you'll
be
able
to
publish
something
that
says
that
this
is.
N
P
Sure
yes,
I
mean
after
these
Fireside
Chats
the
the
team
that
essentially
kind
of
parses
out
this
creates
the
time
stamps
and
makes
a
bunch
of
sound
bites
out
of
this
will
likely
make
a
sound
bite
of
the
you
know.
Whatever
our
discussion,
because
I'm
in
a
different
time
zone
I,
don't
know
how
long
you've
been
going
on
with,
but
I
would
imagine,
there's
going
to
be
a
bunch
of
sound
bites
and
tweets
going
out
from
this.
So
yes,
I
would
imagine
that
that
is
going
to
be
the
case.
N
P
In
my
opinion,
is
not
the
preferred
communication
method,
because
it's
very
easy,
especially
as
a
pseudonym
or
even
as
a
non-seudonym,
behind
the
words
on
a
screen
without
your
voice
is
very
easy
to
either
misconstrue
what
people
are
saying,
because
you
don't
get
the
emotion,
the
tonality,
you
don't
really
don't
get
any
of
the
feeling
behind.
Just
the
you
know
the
letters
on
the
screen,
but
the
fireside
chat
is
quite
unique
in
that
people
from
the
community
get
on
a
call,
and
we,
in
my
opinion,
anyways.
P
We
definitely
see
a
more
respectful
level
of
of
debate
and
I've
been
listening
and
now
for
I
guess:
I,
don't
know
how
long,
but
maybe
two
hours
or
so
definitely
more
respectful
level
of
debate.
Because
there's
this
extra
presence
that
hey
you
can
hear
my
voice
and
so
either.
If
I
was
aggressive
by
text,
then
either
that
may
be
misconstrued
or
I
was
and
now
I'm,
not
as
aggressive,
because
you
have
to
hear
my
voice
I'm
using
myself
as
an
example,
but
I
think
that
that
function.
P
P
Ultimately,
my
point
here
is
that
one
thing
that
I've,
the
the
one
part
that
for
me
in
the
last
month,
or
so
has
been
very
difficult,
is
seeing
people
that
I
highly
respect
disagreeing
in
a
way
the
way
in
which
their
their
actions,
what
their
words
and
what
they're
saying
turned
very
negative
and
very
personal.
That
I
find
very
disappointing
and
it's
been
brought
up
multiple
times.
You
can
disagree.
The
way
in
which
you
disagree,
matters
very
much.
P
And
this
is
where
also
the
Eden
process,
because
of
that
human
aspect
to
it,
even
one
level
further
being
on
screen
it.
It
leads
to,
in
my
opinion,
anyways,
based
on
on
what
we've
seen
a
more
diplomatic
approach,
a
more
respectful
approach,
just
like
these
fire
sites.
In
my
opinion,
and
even
though
you
can't
see
my
face,
you
very
much
hear
my
voice.
P
If
you
saw
my
face,
it
would
probably
it
it
would
be
even
one
step
further
and
that's
what
I
think
is
unique
from
this
community
that
I,
you
know
that
really
drives
me.
Is
it's
very
real,
and
so
you
can
debate,
you
can
argue
in
a
respectful,
Manner
and
we've
got
methods
and
processes
in
a
framework
around
how
to
do
that
within
this
community,
and
not
only
that
we're
building
tools
and
we're
investing
in
tools
to
be
able
to
scale
that,
because
this
far
side
right
now
is
not
scalable.
P
And
so,
even
when
we
talk
about
internally
at
the
enf
transparency
communication,
we
made
that
very
much
at
the
Forefront
of
our
mission
and
values
from
day
one.
It's
important
for
people
to
recognize
that
to
create
a
system
in
a
framework
that
will
Outlast
one
specific
instance.
So
we
can
do
something,
for
example,
is
the
NF.
We
can
share
data
once,
but
if
we
don't
create
a
framework
around
that,
it's
not
worth
as
much.
P
You
need
to
create
a
system
so
that
the
system
can
continue
existing,
regardless
of
the
will
of
a
particular
in
individual
or
or
group
of
individuals
at
a
particular
time,
and
really
this
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
Eden
as
well.
This
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
within
the
enf
as
well.
How
do
we
create
systems
and
Frameworks
so
that
this?
P
It's
for
that
data
to
somehow
also
matter
within
that
ecosystem
and-
and
somehow
be-
you
know,
be
one
of
the
variables
that's
taken
into
play
when
that
system
ultimately
evolves.
That
is
a
huge
process
that
is
extremely
difficult
as
well.
To
figure
out
and
that
I
think
is,
is
again
very
unique
to
this
community.
It's
the
dedicating
the
time
and
the
resources
to
actually
make
this
happen,
and
it's
a
very
long,
arduous
process
and
people
I
find,
in
my
opinion,
somehow
gets
stuck
in
the
instant
in
the
snapshot.
P
So
just
looking
at
this
point
in
time
and
looking
at
whether
this
point
in
time,
it
was
either
good
or
bad
instead
of
where
the
trajectory
is
and
what
is
the
ultimate
goal
and
is
that
ultimate
goal
actually
backed
up
by
actions
or
is
this
just
empty
words,
which
then
really
brings
us
all
the
way
back
to
the
discussion
of
block
one
but
anyways
I?
Thank
you
very
much.
Everybody
I
need
to
actually
go
again.
P
G
J
G
G
I'll
just
add
on
that
I
completely
agree
with
what
Eve
said
and
I
really
appreciate
that
the
US
communities
have
any
discussions
and
it's
very
unique
in
the
Years
community
and
Eden
and
what
we're
doing
with
EOS.
It's
really
powerful
and
helpful,
and
so
yeah
I
appreciate
everybody's
questions
as
well,
and
there's
been
a
great
discussion
so
far.
So
thank
you.
Everybody.
A
M
That's
it
hey,
I'll,
add
one
more
thing:
there
we
go
I
just
wanted
shout
out
again,
learn.esnetwork.com
that
was
Nathan's
work,
I,
don't
even
know
if
he's
still
around,
but
the
credit
for
making
the
website
like
100
goes
to
him.
But
we
work
together
on
that
very
closely,
because
I
was
the
one
who
did
the
cloud
infrastructure
for
it
and
I'm
super
proud
of
that
work,
even
though
it
wasn't
like
terribly
complicated,
but
we
worked
together
very
closely
on
that.
It's
cashed
in
240
cities.
M
M
A
We'll
leave
it
there
great
discussion.
Everyone
thanks
for
joining
how
many,
how
many
made
it
to
the
Finish
Line
36
people,
someone
just
joined.
We
were
35
now
we're
36.
someone
just
joined.
We
can't
do
that
to
that
person,
but
no
I
think
I.
Think
I
think
we're
good
here.
What
is
this
four
hours
four
hours
and
19
minutes?
A
Okay,
we'll
wrap
it
up
in
one
minute,
thanks
everyone
for
joining,
let's
go
EOS,
let's
go
eat
in,
let's
see
what
happens
very
exciting
times
in
the
Eos
community
and
yeah
thanks
to
everyone
who
participated
we'll
do
it
again
not
next
week,
actually
we're
taking
our
week
off,
but
the
week
after
for
the
year
in
review,
go
Wheels.
Everyone.