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In This week's Fireside Chat the EOS community talks about branding options, welcomes Phillip Hamnet to speak on the recent developments at Chintai and the open mic questions take an unexpected turn into the discussion of the Bullish Debacle.
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:15 Today's agenda by Stephane Bisson
00:04:17 EOSIO+ Coalition branding options by Stephane and Yves
00:10:35 Pomelo Report by Stephane Bisson
00:13:16 Chintai updates with special guest Phillip Hamnett
00:24:32 Yield+ Blue paper update and mainstream coverage by Zack and Yves
00:29:26 Stable coins and Chintai use cases by Philip Hamnett
00:37:30 Bullish Concerns by Fidel Cashflow, Zack, Phillip, Hernan
01:08:00 Do we need an Eden blockchain? by Douglas, Stephane, Maxocoin
01:17:36 Wrapping it up… Let's go EOS!!
01:18:19 END
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B
B
We
got,
of
course,
a
quick
update
on
the
pomelo
season.
2
report
that
was
published
this
week.
We
also
have
a
special
guest
philip
from
shintai,
is
going
to
give
us
some
updates
about
what
they've
been
up
to
recently
and,
of
course,
we
invite
all
of
you
to
join
in
the
conversations
at
any
time
you
can
request
to
jump
in
there
with
a
comment.
B
We
also
have,
of
course,
our
pop
tokens
giveaway,
so
you
can
listen
in
on
twitter,
shout
out
to
those
listening
on
the
stream
on
youtube
and
join
us
on
discord.
So
if
you're
not
yet
on
discord,
you
can
earn
a
pop
token
by
joining
us
on
discord
and
joining
the
stream
chat
channel.
That's
out
there.
So
that's
discord,
dot,
gg
front,
slash,
eos
dash
discord.
If
you're
not
already
there,
you
can
also
earn
a
pop
token
nft
on
twitter
by
retweeting
the
latest
tweet
from
the
enf.
B
So
if
you
go
over
to
the
enf
profile,
you'll
see
a
tweet
that
was
sent
out
just
a
few
minutes
ago,
announcing
the
topics,
and
that
is
life.
So,
let's
retweet
and
leave
your
leave
a
comment
and
leave
your
eos
account
in
a
comment,
and
so
the
people
who
help
us
spread.
The
word
about
this
event
will
earn
an
extra
pop
token.
Today,
of
course,
pop
tokens.
B
B
B
Maybe
not
we'll
we'll
get
back
to
philip
in
just
a
bit,
so
regarding
the
eos
io
plus
coalition.
As
many
of
you
know,
they
are
currently
in
the
process
of
rebranding
eosio.
So
that's
the
name
of
the
software
that
runs
the
eos
network
that
runs
wax
network
telos
ultra
and
a
few
others,
many
others
actually,
and
the
eos
io
software
used
to
be
created
by
block
one
they've
been
removed
from
they've,
been
fired
by
the
network
and
they're
no
longer
upgrading
the
the
software.
B
B
So
I
see
eve
la
rose
is
with
us
requesting
to
speak
absolutely
so
this
week
and
feel
free
to
jump
in
here.
If
you
want
eve,
but
from
my
understanding
is
that
the
group
will
be
discussing
potential
branding
options
for
eosio
plus
now,
the
enf
is
publishing
these
videos.
Every
week
there's
timestamps
made
sometimes
there's
highlight
clips
pulled
out
if
there's
stuff,
that's
really
very
interesting
for
the
community
this
week.
The
plan
is
to,
of
course,
publish
that
eosio
coalition
call.
B
E
E
E
E
So
I'm
just
not
sure
that
that
will
be
realistic
depending
on
the
conversation
I
just
spent
an
hour
and
throughout
the
comments
about
the
name
and
speaking
about
the
names
and
speaking
about
the
feelings
and
everything
that
those
names
invoke,
you
inevitably
pretty
much
say
the
name,
and
so
I'm
not
I'm
just
not
sure
that
that's
going
to
be
possible.
The
way
that
you
you
mentioned
it.
B
E
B
Good,
no
great
so
thanks
for
sharing
that
update
and
I'm
I'm
looking
forward
to
you
know
learning
more
about
this.
This
rebrand,
I'm
sure
the
rest
of
the
community
is
as
well
was
there
anyone
else
from
the
usio
plus
coalition
call.
Maybe
that
wanted
to
jump
in
or
I
guess
we
had.
We
had
eve
give
a
good,
pretty
good,
update
there.
B
D
B
D
B
Okay,
so
real
quick,
I
can
give
us
a
short
update
on
pomelo.
I
don't
see
dan
in
the
chat
right
now,
so
I'll
just
go
ahead.
Of
course
we
pomelo
team
published
the
season
two
report
a
few
days
ago
on
monday,
and
so
now
the
community
is
invited
to
read
the
report
to
review
the
actions
that
the
pomelo
team
is
taking
and
submit
appeals
if
grant
owners
feel
that
they
have.
B
B
F
Yeah,
so
shintai
has
been
doing
an
awful
lot
in
the
last
year.
I
showed
most
of
you
aware,
like
we
raised
our
seed
round
in
may
last
year
and
recently
a
lot
has
been
happening
all
at
once,
so
we
just
recently
got
the
in
principal
approval
for
the
cms
license
from
the
mas.
That's
the
capital
markets
service
license
from
the
monetary
authority
of
singapore,
which
is
going
to
allow
us
to
issue
the
primary
issuance
of
securities
on
a
blockchain
on
our
blockchain.
F
F
All
right,
then,
we've
got
we're
also
in
the
process
of
applying
for
another
license
with
the
mas.
So
that's
the
rmo
license
the
recognized
market
operator
license
when
we
get
that
license
we'll
be
allowed
to
trade
digital
assets
as
well,
so
we'll
be
able
to
do
secondary
trading
of
of
securities
and
in
addition
to
all
of
this,
but
the
rmo
license.
We
haven't,
got
the
approval
for
yet,
but
we're
expecting
hoping
that
we
get
that
very
soon
and
in
addition
to
that,
we
have
our
launched
soft
launched
our
platform.
F
So
people
can
at
least
go
on
to
the
platform.
Now
they
can
go
through
start
going
through
the
kyc
process
and
prepare
to
start
using
the
platform
of
just
carbon,
our
first
clients,
just
carbon
is
a
you
can
go
to
justcarbon.com
to
learn
more
about
them,
but
they're
essentially
issuing
carbon
credits
on
our
system,
and
we
also
have
several
other
clients.
F
I
can't
give
you
the
specific
details
of
them
yet
because
we're
like
doing
things
like
organizing
joint
press
releases
et
cetera,
but
you
know
we're
getting
there
with
some
real
estate
clients,
some
funds,
other
things
as
well,
and
then
the
final
thing
to
sort
of
listed
everything.
That's
like
it
happened
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
F
B
F
Someone,
like
you
know,
do
cleos
get
account
or
whatever
and
see
the
details
of
a
person's
account
and
their
kyc
information
and
all
the
rest
of
this
stuff.
We
will
release
a
block
explorer
for
this
in
a
couple
of
months,
which
will
then
let
you
see
how
the
blockchain
looks
like
and
how
it
works,
but
yeah
with
some
restrictions
on
what's
actually
visible
to
the
end
users.
F
B
F
D
Thanks
for
watching
no,
I
have
a
question
so
with
your
token,
being
on
so
many
different
chains
is
eos
still
kind
of
the
source
of
truth.
As
far
as
like
the
supply
is
concerned,
and
then
every
other
version
is
the
wrapped
version
or
is
the
like
native
version
on
the
shintai
chain
now
and
then
the
eos
versions,
essentially
the
wrapped
version.
The
binance
chain
versions
are
wrapped
version.
Everything
else
is
wrapped,
like
which
one's
the
native
version
and
which
ones
are
the
wrapped
version.
F
What
will
happen
is
the
eos
tokens
will
go
into
our
wallet
and
then
we
will
create
eos
tokens
on
our
own
mainnet
and
obviously
those
tokens
on
our
mainnet
are
wrapped
tokens,
because
we're
essentially
like
one
to
one
backing
them
with
what
we
have
in
a
wallet
on
the
eos
mainnet
right
and
the
way
I'm
doing
it
with
the
checks.
Token
is
that
when
you
move
them
from
one
chain
to
another,
they
are
retired
on
the
chain
that
they
formally
were
on.
So
in
essence,
they're
all
equally
valid.
F
D
I
yeah
and
in
a
sense
so
basically
it'd
be
like.
If
I
send
eos
to
the
shintai
chain,
it
would
there'd
be
locked
eos
on
the
eos
chain
and
a
multisig
wallet
of
some
kind
for
the
vault
and
then
it
would
mint
new
raptors
on
the
shintai
chain.
But
then,
if
you
wanted
to
bridge
that
eos
with
like
a
shintai
wrapped
version
on
binance
chain,
it
would
kind
of
be
like
a
wrapped
version
of
a
wrapped
version.
F
The
all
of
it's
still
on
eos,
there's
like
a
little
little
bit
of
it
on
ethereum
and
binance
smart
chain
for
putting
them
on
on
uni,
swap
just
to
reach
larger
markets,
but
in
general
the
vast
majority
is
still
on
eos,
when
we
are
ready
to
implement
the
checks
to
economics
on
the
shintai
main
net.
At
that
point
we
will
activate
the
ability
to
move
over
and
then
it's
up
to
the
individual
checks
holders.
If
they
want
to
do
that
or
not.
D
Oh
one
more
thing
so,
with
the
bridging
tech
is
it
one-to-one
or
is
it
do
you
have
many-to-many
functionality
so,
for
example,
if
I,
if
I
have
checks
on
eos,
would
I
be
able
to
send
checks
to
ethereum
or
binance,
or
would
I
have
to
send
it
first
to
the
shintai
chain,
then
to
ethereum?
And
then,
if
I
wanted
to
go
to
binance
I'd
have
to
send
it
to
the
shintai
chain
and
then
to
whatever
the
other
chain
was
like
binance,
for
example,.
F
D
Now
I
think
steph
dropped
off,
because
thomas
connection
is
bad.
I
don't
have
to
listen
topics
in
front
of
me.
I
guess
I
could
carry
this
for
a
little
bit
unless
someone
wants
to
help
me
out
here
wasn't
preparing
to
talk.
One
update
I
can
give.
Is
we
already
mentioned
it
last
week,
but
the
yield
plus
blue
paper
so
we'll
be
dropping
a
preview
tomorrow
and
then
the
full
blue
paper?
It's
it's.
The
english
version
has
been
branded,
it's
all
designed
in
the
pdf.
D
I
think
we'll
get
more
feedback,
so
we'll
do
another
feedback
round
like
we
did
for
the
first.
Four
blue
papers,
but
I
think
there
will
be
a
lot
more
feedback
and
participation
on
this
one.
Just
because
I
think
d5
is
a
much
more
passionate
topic
for
most
people.
Much
more
engaging
than,
for
example,
security
audits,
but
just
wanted
to
someone
else
is
like
clicking
in
virtuous.
C
H
G
Very
positive
way,
so
what
is
the
interest
we
are?
Do
we
have?
We
are
getting
some
interest
from
venture
capitalists
and
with
private
equity
money.
That
is,
that
is
something
which
is
look
out
for
some
opportunity
in
yours.
Do
you
get
any
expression
of
interest
at
the
your
network
foundation
after
the
release
of
the
articles
somebody
reach
out
to
you?
Is
that
something
like
that?
B
Yep
question
was
clear
thanks
to
zach
for
for
stepping
in
here.
While
I
try
to
fix
my
connection
issues,
can
you
all
hear
me
yeah
brandon?
We
can
hear
you
did
before
before
we
get
to
you.
I
don't
know
if
zack
or
eve
has
any
comments
to
say
regarding
if
there's
been
a
some
interest,
since
the
many
articles
on
eos
have
been
published
on
both
mainstream
media
publications
like
forbes
and
wired,
and
also
a
variety
of
crypto
publications
as
well.
This
weekend
last
week,.
D
D
E
B
I
F
So,
philosophically
speaking,
I
don't
think
stable
coins
in
general
make
much
sense.
Pegged
coins
make
sense,
and
I
I'm
not
really
convinced,
with
any
algorithmically
formed
stable,
pegged
token
that
that
they
that
they
work
mostly
because
the
value
that
you're
driving
is
like
economic
and
psychological,
and
we
don't
understand
economics
and
psychology.
Well
enough
is
my
personal
view
on
it.
So
I
think
algorithmic
stable
coins
are
not
a
good
idea
in
general,
and
the
only
way
that
you
can
truly
safe
like
have
a
regulatory,
stable
coin
or
peg
token.
F
F
A
us
dollar
pegged
stable
coin
on
the
platform
as
it's
going
live.
This
is
essentially
working
like
ever
that
it's
like
one
to
one
backed
by
us
dollars
stored
in
a
custodian
bank,
account
with
the
only
difference
being
that
we'll
actually
publish
the
details
of
that,
so
that
you
can
actually
see
that
it
is
really
backed
by
real
world
assets.
C
I
think
I
come
late
a
little
bit
so
but-
and
I
was
listening
for
philip
from
chintai-
I
think
yeah.
My
question
could
be
like
very
for
like
for
beginners
or
something
like
that.
I'm
just
a
product
designer
and
I'm
an
eos
holder,
and
I
was
wondering
like
what
could
be
like
potential
use
case
for
me
and
the
chin
die
like
because.
C
Like
I'm
like
to
see
a
lot
of
tweets
about
chinta
and
like,
and
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
qintai
like
could
be
beneficial
for
me
as
just
a
regular,
your
eos
holder,
if,
if
there
is
any
like
simple
answer
to
this,
so
would
be
very
helpful
to
me
because,
like
in
euros
community
center,
I
think
it's
kind
of
popular
kind
of
business
or
some
sort
of,
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
could
be
beneficial
to
both
of
us.
So
that's
kind
of
my
question.
F
Sure
so
the
the
elevator
pitch
of
what
what
shinto
is
doing
now
is
is
that
we
allow
the
creation
of
digital
assets
like
the
issuance
of
them
as
a
first
source
and
then
the
trading
of
them.
So
the
use
case
that
you
might
have
with
with
shin
tai
is
one
of
two
use
cases
typically
either
you
want
to
create
a
token
you
want
to
do
that
in
like
a
seamless,
easy
way
we
create
the
token
for
you.
F
We
set
up
like
a
token
sale
for
you,
and
then
we
set
up
a
market
for
you
to
then
like
have
a
secondary
market
for
trading
that
token
afterwards,
as
well,
in
such
a
way
that
you,
like
you,
don't
break
any
laws,
which
is,
I
think,
the
biggest
issue
that
people
have
in
the
crypto
space.
They
don't
want
to
get
on
the
wrong
side
of
regulators.
F
I'll
just
say
the
second
thing
you
have
to
follow.
That's
fine!
The
second
use
case
is,
if
you
actually
interested
in
buying
those
tokens
or
or
participating
in
those
you
know
markets.
Then
you
have
the
ability
to
do
that,
as
well
as
on
the
investor
side,
and
that
lets
you
access
opportunities
that
you
wouldn't
normally
have
access
to,
such
as,
for
example,
tokens
that
can
actively
and
openly
say,
hey.
I
pay
dividends
because
these
tokens
represent
shares
in
my
company
and
you
know
or
like
hey.
F
Yeah,
it's
a
nice
short
list:
it's
singapore,
so
we're
starting
in
singapore
and
then
expanding
to
other
countries
over
over
time,
so
basically
get
fully
licensed
and
regulated
in
one
country.
It's
then
much
easier
when
you
go
to
other
countries
to
to
get
licensing
and
that's
why
we
also
chose
singapore
because
they're
they
are
blockchain
friendly
they're,
not
like
some
countries
which,
as
soon
as
you
say,
blockchain
they
just
close
the
door
on
you
straight
away:
they're
blockchain,
friendly,
but
they're.
Also,
like
you,
know
the
financial
hub
of
asia.
F
C
B
A
A
I'm
an
equities
analyst,
my
question's
about
a
publicly
traded,
equity
or
2b
that
you
guys
are
all
likely
very
familiar
with
it's
a
spack
called
bullish.
These
back
is
far
peak
acquisition.
Corporates
fpac,
you
know,
I'm
you
guys
are
all
very
familiar.
I'm
sure
you
know
block
one
and
and
and
bullish
are
looking
to
use
what
you
guys
believe
is
your
bankroll
from
my
understanding
to
start
a
crypto
exchange.
The
spac
has
been
repeatedly
delayed.
Sorry
about
that
construction.
A
D
I
mean
it's
kind
of
a
separate
issue.
We
have
no
involvement
with
bullish
nor
the
spec
deal,
so
I
have
no
insight
on
what
has
been
delaying
anything.
I
do
know
that
in
the
wider
markets,
like
spacks,
have
cooled
off
significantly
and
that's
across
the
board
having
nothing
to
do
with
bullish.
But
besides
that,
I
don't
really
have
any
comments
on
that.
D
A
My
understanding
is
that
when
you
look
at
bullish's
balance
sheet
the
roughly
at
a
time
it
was
four
billion
at
the
time
it
was
quoted.
As
of
that
quarter
end,
but
the
four
billion
which
you
guys
claim
is
I'm
bullish
is
balance
sheet,
so
you
know,
I
believe
that
they
are
the
same
company.
I
think
that
bullish
acquired
block
one
actually.
D
I
don't
I
I
don't
know
how
I
don't
think,
that's
how
it
worked,
but
I'm
also
not
super
familiar
with
how
they're
kind
of
merged
together,
as
far
as
I
understand
bullish,
is
the
largest
shareholder
of
our
block.
One
is
the
largest
shareholder
of
bullish.
It's
a
subsidiary
of
block
one
on
their
website
right
now,
and
that's
kind
of
how
it's
described.
I
A
D
Videos,
the
bullish
acquired
the
eos
ioip
that
might
be
the
conflict,
confusion
they
didn't
acquire
block.
One
block
one's
kind
of
like
a
holdings.
Company
and
bullish
happens
to
be
one
of
their
main
holdings.
It
holds
most
of
their
cryptocurrencies
their
balance
sheet,
but
as
part
of
the,
I
guess,
investment
into
bullish.
They
rolled
the
eos
ioip,
which
includes
the
code
base
the
copyrights,
the
social
media
accounts,
the
websites,
the
documentation.
A
So
it's
on
their
balance
sheet,
which
I
believe
you
know,
that's
the
whole
pitch
they're
using
it
to
stimulate
liquidity
on
the
exchange.
I
have
kind
of
a
side
note
you
know
which
is
about.
I
guess
you
guys.
You
know,
I'm
curious
your
thoughts
about
bullish.
You
know
they're
claiming
they're
doing
a
couple
hundred
million
in
in
in
volumes
and
I'm
not
seeing
anyone
talk
about
it.
So
I'm
curious
what
you
guys
think
about
that.
D
D
So
if
you
could
buy
bitcoin
off
bullish
and
sell
it
on
coinbase
and
collect
a
delta
as
a
profit,
one
entity
could
do
all
of
the
market
making
and
arbitrage
to
create
a
lot
of
volume.
From
that
it's
all
profit
driven.
I
don't
believe
based
on
social
media
interactions
and
engagement
and
people
outside
of
eosio
talking
about
it.
I
don't
hear
about
it
at
all,
so
I
I
don't
believe
that
they
have
a
lot
of
users,
but
I
don't
know
how
that's
completely
separate
from
eos.
D
D
They
they'd
be
fine
with
just
arbitrage,
because
that's
the
whole
model
of
their
business
is
they
have
this
giant
balance
sheet
and
professional
market
makers
just
use
their
liquidity
pool
to
normalize
pricing
across
exchanges,
although
all
across
the
marketplace,
like
coinbase
finance,
kucoin
kuobi,
like
they
just
basically
buy
from
one
exchange
and
sell
on
another
exchange
that
there's
lots
of
businesses
that
specialize
in
that
and
those
are
the
type
of
customers
that
could
do
the
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
of
volume.
It's
not
retail.
I
I
A
D
Corrected,
I
think,
where
the
investments
came
in
is
on
the
us
dollar
side
of
their
order
books.
So
they
have.
I
mean
not
saying
that
they
didn't
have
a
lot
of
fiat
also,
but
you
have
a
bunch
of
bitcoin
and
you
need
to
match
it
against
a
bunch
of
dollars
or
a
bunch
of
eth.
The
only
token
that
they're
not
matching
with
bitcoin
is
eos,
which
is
funny
because
eos
is
what
funded
all
of
their
bitcoin.
A
Yeah
right
so
another
question
regarding
and
then
I'm
sorry
sorry
to
derail
the
conversation
towards.
You
know
this
topic,
but
you
know
from
my
understanding
of
reading
the
prospectus.
The
the
bullish
exchange,
the
reason
they're
able
to
justify
using
the
eos
bankroll
is
because
they
use
the
eos
protocol
in
building
these
exchange.
I've
seen
some
critiques
online
that
the
actual
usage
of
the
us
protocol
is
like
minute
and
it's
just
basically
just
done
to
justify
usage
of
the
funds.
I'm
curious
what
you
guys
think
about
that.
A
I
believe
that's
stipulated
so
in
order
to
justify
using
it
for
bullish,
bullish
needed
to
be
reliant
on
to
use
the
eos
protocol.
I'm
curious,
if
you
guys
are
aware
of
in
what
form
they
use
the
protocol.
If
it's
significant
I've
seen
people
who
claim
that
it's
not
I'm
just
curious
what
you
guys
think
about
this.
J
I
was
just
gonna
say:
I'm
not
entirely
sure
I
haven't
looked
into
it
since
the
beginning,
but
I
believe
they
were
settling
on
a
private
eosio
chain.
So
I
mean
I
guess
that
would
fulfill
their
obligations.
If
that
were
true,
but
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
like
whenever
you
have
a
bunch
of
people
just
chasing
money,
they're
gonna,
take
whatever
you
know,
whatever
the
shareholders
or
the
stakeholders
seem
to
think
is
the
most
important.
J
So
it's
really
a
convoluted
cloud
of
vision
to
try
to
connect
it
to
eos
from
a
perspective
of
what
is
the
highest
return.
If
they
were
ethical
and
you
know
actually
cared,
then
of
course
they
would
do
way
way
way
more
with
the
us.
But
to
answer
your
question:
if
it
is
settled
on
eosio
technology,
I
would
guess
that
would
fulfill
that
obligation.
I
Fidel,
I
think,
you're
you're.
In
luck,
the
most
qualified
person
to
answer
your
question
happens
to
be
the
featured
speaker,
philip
and
he's
very
knowledgeable
about
this
subject.
Philip,
are
you
still?
Are
you
still
hanging
on
he's?
I
think
I
believe
he's
asking
about
the
economics
or
or
alluding
to
the
economics
of
posting
to
the
eos
chain
after
each
transaction
or
block
of
transactions
as
proof
of
those
transactions.
Philip
wrote
an
article
on
that
and
we
all
know
that
that
he's
dug
quite
deeply
into
that
subject.
F
Yeah,
so
this
is
the
in
our
use
in
our
use
case.
This
is
the
point
of
of
trying
to
get
like
the
best
of
both
worlds.
Right
like
we
want
to
have
a
centralized
blockchain
which
allows
us
to
have
like
half
a
second
finality
and
fixes
a
ton
of
ux
issues
that
people
have
and
also
you
know,
fulfills
the
regulator
requirements
about,
for
example,
making
sure
that
people
can't
permanently
lose
private
keys
things
like
that.
F
But
at
the
same
time
you
want
to
make
sure,
like
the
whole
point
of
a
blockchain
or
one
of
the
points
of
a
blockchain,
is
to
have
this
like
full
and
perfect
audit
trail,
and
you
can't
have
that
if
you
have
a
private
chain,
a
purely
private
chain.
Just
because
you
know
in
principle,
someone
could
get
the
keys
and
alter
it
or
change
something
or
go
back
in
history
and
make
something
never
happen.
Stuff
like
that.
F
J
A
B
Sure,
before
you
go
for
ellen
thanks
for
joining
us
by
the
way,
joe
louis
who's,
a
long-time
member
of
the
eos
community,
he
shared
some
thoughts
on
discord.
I'll
read
you
the
the
thoughts
on
discord
and
maybe
he'll
reach
out
to
you
further
after
this
call.
So
you
know
joe
louis
says:
the
bullish
is
extremely
selective
during
user
sign
up
they're,
not
what
I
consider
an
open,
slash,
public
exchange.
They
want
to
know
net
worth
source
volume
intentions,
their
trading
activities,
primarily
the
original
handful
of
institutional
friends
from
the
november
2020
beta.
B
Their
bitco
accounts
are
largely
the
same
as
they
always
were.
Volume
is
by
and
large,
driven
by
a
small
number
of
those
original
institutions
he
wishes.
He
could
talk
some
more,
but
it's
twitter
spaces
and
I
guess
he's
just
not
able
to
join
us
at
this
time,
but
thank
you,
joe
louis,
for
those
comments
and
and
thanks
again
phil
for
for
joining
us.
I
I
wasn't
sure
when
I
expected,
when
I
accept
accepted
you
on
stage,
but
I'm
glad
I'm
glad.
I
did
hope.
B
D
Yeah,
I'm
not
seeing
a
power
up,
so
maybe
they're
doing
their
own
resources
now
but
yeah.
As
far
as
the
eosio
developments,
we
basically
poached
their
entire
senior
engineering
team
that
was
building
eosio
because
they
wanted
to
work
on
public
blockchains.
That's
what
they
signed
up
for
when
they
joined
block
one
and
then
they
got
assigned
to
the
bullish
project
and
a
big
reason
why
dan
decided
to
leave
was
because
they
were
gutting
out
almost
all
of
the
blockchain
components
from
it,
and
that
was
back
in.
D
When
did
he
resign
late,
2020
december
28th
or
something
2020.?
So
it's
been
another
year
and
a
half
since
then,
and
more
and
more
of
the
eosio
components
have
likely
kind
of
been
gutted
out.
So
that
was
a
big
reason
why
the
engineers
wanted
to
kind
of
jump.
Ship
was
because
the
opportunity
to
continue
working
on
eosio
was
there.
They
spent
years
mastering
the
craft
and
building
eos
io
from
the
ground
up
since
before
1.0
in
a
lot
of
cases,
and
they
wanted
to
continue
working
on
eos
io.
D
So
the
only
way
to
continue
to
do
so
in
the
way
that
they
envisioned
when
they
originally
signed
up
was
to
join
the
eos
network
foundation.
Now
they
are
our
core
engineering
team,
so
if
there
is
still
eos
io
com
and
there
is
still
uso
components
to
bullish,
but
I
just
I
I
question
how
much
they'll
be
able
to
advance
it
at
this
point
without
the
top
top
top
talent,
especially
and
dan
himself?
D
A
Know
I've
seen
these
sentiments
echoed
on
their
glassdoor
page
block
ones.
You
know
people
seem
very
disillusioned
by
the
the
the
the
course
that
the
organization's
taken
very
similar
to
the
comments
you're
making
you
know.
One
other
thing
is
that
the
the
senior
some
of
the
senior
people
who
do
remain
from
block
one
are
now
in
charge
of
bullish
and-
and
I
wonder
if
they
or
the
investors
ever
imagined
that
that
team
would
run
a
crypto
exchange,
it
seemed
to
have
been
a
quick
pivot.
A
H
G
A
I
recall
it
from
the
prospectus:
you
can
pull
up
if
it's
far
peak
acquisition,
corp
ticker
fpac.
If
you
look
at
their
prospectus,
their
proxies
is
going
to
have
it.
They
don't
file
an
s1
for
some
reason,
but
look
in
their
proxy,
and
you
know
I
recall
that
that's
the
way
that
they
justify
use
of
the
eos
funds
is
that
has
to
be
on
an
eos
project.
K
When
they
raised
the
money,
they
said
that
all
that
money
would
go
towards
eosio
projects,
so
this
is
sort
of
their
way
of
circumventing
that
by
investing
in
themselves.
Essentially,
another
question,
though,
for
philip
and
it's
on
the
same
topic
is
sort
of
bullish,
hashing
to
eos,
along
with
chintai
hash
and
bios.
K
F
B
B
L
Yeah
sure
I
can
chime
in
a
bit
regarding
polish
and
black
one,
just
full
disclosure.
I
I
I
work.
I
worked
at
block
one
just
as
they
transitioned
on
as
voice
became
its
own
company,
so
I
was
kind
of
hitting
the
mobile
team
and
the
transition
from
voice
towards
being
a
independent
company
from
block
one.
L
I
think
regarding
what
you
said
about
they
they're
having
to
use
the
the
es
blockchain.
Somehow
I
don't
know
if
they're
legally
obliged
I
mean
if,
if,
if
b1
is
proficient
at
something,
it's
their
legal
team,
much
more
much
more
so
that
their
their
development
force,
especially
at
this
point,
so
that
that
did
not
stop
them
for
from
you
know
doing
what
whatever
they
supposed
to
do,
and
I
think
to
to
your
point,
if
I
could
sum
it
up,
I
think
the
the
concern
here
on.
L
I
don't
want
to
speak
on
behalf
of
like
eos
right
communica.
I
can't,
but
I
think
something
that
me
as
a
community
member
would
be
disturbing.
Is
that
if
that
spec
kind
of
goes
through,
they
become
public
with
a
company
that
that
whose
assets
come
mainly
from
that
disputed
token
sale,
which
is
not
a
dispute?
It
could
serve
as
a
way
of
kind
of.
L
L
Then
you
know
we
have
not
seen
any
of
the
volume
as
an
as
a
potential
inflow
in
eos,
which
you
know
it's
obviously
not
nothing
to
go,
say
hey.
So
how
do
we,
how?
Why
don't
we
see
that
reflected
in
us
because
they
could
say
well,
it's
just
the
market,
but
we
we're
hoping
that
bullish
would
be
kind
of
our.
You
know
our
own
binance
style
exchange
that
has
eos
in
mind,
but
but
I
I
don't
see
that
happening
in
in
any
form.
B
All
right,
great
thanks,
hernan,
for
for
sharing
your
thoughts.
I
think
our
friend,
fidel
cashflow
is,
is
no
longer
on
the
call,
but
if
someone's
listening
to
this
at
a
later
time,
you
want
to
reach
out
I'm
just
going
to
repeat
his
twitter
account.
It's
tango
grenada
on
twitter,
so
he
did
say
if
anyone
had
any
other
information,
they
wanted
to
share
he's
open
to
that
information.
B
B
Real
quickly
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
coolwavecapital
on
twitter.
He
he's
posting.
You
know
eos
centric
newsletters.
He
used
to
do
that
a
while
back.
He
stopped
at
some
point
good
to
see
that
he's
coming
back
in
the
game
back
in
the
eos
community,
so
definitely
check
those
out
again,
that's
coolwavecapital
on
twitter
for
those
of
you
who
want
to
maybe
give
them
a
follow.
B
B
B
B
All
right
so
looks
like
me:
we
may
be
wrapping
up
soon.
A
quick
reminder
for
those
of
you
who
are
listening
live
to
this
fireside
chat
check
out
the
latest
enf
tweet
retweet.
It
leave
your
eos
name,
account
name
in
the
comments
and
you'll
earn
a
pop
token.
Also
head
on
over
to
our
discord
in
the
stream
chat
and
you'll.
You
can
drop
your
eos
account
name
with
the
money
side
in
front
of
it
there
to
earn
a
pop
token
as
well.
B
J
Yeah
I
just
was
gonna
start
a
new
topic
about
like
if
eden
should,
if
it
would
make
sense
to
have
its
own
blockchain,
but
if
we're
we're
winding
down,
we
don't
have
to
jump
into
that,
and
also
I
apologize
if,
like
my
mic,
is
causing
background
noise
for
some
reason
like
when
I
mute
it
like
I'll
still
have
background
noise.
So
just
mute
me
if
that
happens
again,.
B
No,
when
you
mute
yourself,
it's
fine,
we
don't
you're
you're
coming
in
clear,
there's,
no
there's
no
background
noise,
it's
good
regarding
the
eden
blockchain
topic,
I'm
not
sure.
If
you
want
to
elaborate
on
on
that
or
maybe
yeah
share
some
thoughts
we
can
and
if
anyone
else
has
other
thoughts
or
questions
you
know,
don't
don't
hesitate
to
jump
in
here.
J
Oh
sure
I
can
elaborate
a
little
bit.
The
purpose
of
eden
is
to
add
value
to
eos
and
hopefully
in
the
next
bylaws,
we'll
have
a
little
bit
better
of
a
vision
for
that,
so
it
wouldn't
really
make
sense
for
eden
to
go
on
to
its
own
chain.
However,
I
do
believe
that
there's
a
big
opportunity
in
terms
of
funding
to
move
eden
or
even
like
start,
an
auxiliary
chain
for
eden.
That
would
then
still
have
the
original
goal
of
increasing
the
eos.
J
The
reason
that
this
can
be
economically
viable
is
that
whenever
you
create
this
new
chain,
you
have
the
opportunity
to
do
forks.
You
could
do
something
similar
to
telos,
where
you
cap
the
amount
that
you
can
get
in
the
fork
for,
like
you,
could
think
of
it
as
like
the
airdrop
that
you
get
for
your
tokens.
J
But
the
big
reason
for
funding
is:
you
can
take
a
big
portion
of
the
the
allocated
tokens
and
you
can
set
them
up
or
set
them
aside
for
funding
eating
right.
So
if
you
were
able
to
create
a
decent
market
cap
through
a
small
airdrop
where
you
might
limit
the
amount
of
eos
at
a
thousand
or
ten
thousand
that
then
gets
matched
into
the
new
system,
you
can
imagine
that
that
would
be
maybe
five
to
ten
percent
of
the
total
supply
of
the
new
blockchain.
J
If
you
were
to
mirror
one
to
one,
the
eos
tokens,
so
that
leaves
a
significant
percentage
for
the
the
team
and
the
chain
and
things
like
that,
as
well
as
a
better
economic
system,
so
that
eden
wouldn't
require
outside
funding.
I'm
not
that
I
think
that
it's
a
bad
thing
like
I'm
all
about
supporting
eden
and
you
know
really
better,
defining
what
we're
doing
there,
whether
or
not
we're
supporting
projects
or
leadership
and
better
defining
our
vision
and
our
goals,
and
things
like
that.
J
B
Cool
yeah
thanks
thanks
douglas
for
jumping
in,
and
you
know,
proposing
a
new
topic.
You
know,
personally,
that's
the
first
time
I
hear
of
such
an
idea.
You
know
if
you,
if
you
could
create
an
eden
blockchain
that
would
have
enough
value
inside
it
and
enough
market
cap,
like
you,
say,
to
be
able
to
fund
eden
itself
without
having
eden
to
rely
on
eos
inflation.
B
That
that'd
be
great,
of
course,
I'm
just
maybe
skeptical
of
where
that
value
from
the
new
eden
chain
would
come
from
right.
So
you
need.
You
need
buyers
of
these
new
tokens.
Why?
Why
are
by?
Why
are
buyers
coming
in
to
purchase
these
new
eden
tokens?
I
understand
you,
don't
necessarily
have
all
the
answers.
I'm
not
necessarily
asking
you
to
answer
that
question.
Just
those
are
just
some
of
the
thoughts
you
know
that
cross
my
mind
regarding
that
topic,
but
thanks
for
bring
it
up.
J
Sure,
and
if
anybody
else
wants
to
jump
in
and
share
thoughts,
I
don't
I
don't
mean
to
command
the
the
stage,
but
I
do
want
to
answer
what
you
said.
So
what
I
see
as
the
big
issue
with
eden
is
that
the
idea
is
really
radical
and
really
beautiful
right.
This
idea
of
fractal
governance,
you
know
just
starting
to
take
form
just
being
a
baby
toddler
with
taking
its
first
steps.
J
So
my
my
counter
point
to
your
question:
is
it's
it's
easier
to
create
a
new
value
from
nothing
by
showing
off
a
newborn
child
than
it
is
to
have
somebody
with
a
bad
questionably,
a
bad
reputation
which
b1
has
sort
of
given
eos
and
then
try
to
convince
everybody
that
this
person
has
a
you
know
a
beautiful
baby.
That's
worth
growing
up.
You
know,
so
I
believe
that
the
value
that
would
be
generated
from
that
would
come
from
a
new
vision
statement,
a
new
mission
statement,
a
new
definition
of
exactly
what
we're
doing.
J
But
I
believe
that
if
fractal
governance
is
the
goal
and
if
the
goal
is
to
demonstrate
these
systems
working
properly,
it
will
be
necessary
to
either
auxiliarize.
That
is,
to
still
focus
on
eos,
but
to
create
a
separate,
mandel
or
eosia
chain
to
separate
the
branding
to
separate
the
association
or
otherwise
just
completely
separate
and
create
a
true
experiment
which
actually
would
benefit
and
would
add
a
ton
of
value
to
eos,
because
if
you
do
an
airdrop,
obviously
there's
a
snapshot
which
has
one
moment
in
time
when
you
can
have
eos
and
then
get
this.
J
Other
token,
so,
there's
roi
potential
as
well
as
the
the
idea.
I've
actually
pitched
is
to
do
it
in
12
stages
or
to
do
12
monthly
drops.
So
you
have
more
of
an
on-ramp
both
to
communicate
the
idea,
but
also
have
more
people
come
into
the
space
get
the
eos
in
order
to
get
these
other
tokens,
which
would
be
on
fractality
so
or
I
mean
I'm
sorry
on
on
the
eden,
blockchain
so
yeah.
J
I
know
that
it's
like
a
radical
idea,
but
sometimes
whenever,
whenever
you
want
to
grow
things,
you
have
to
take
a
good
hard
look
at
the
fundamentals
as
well
as
the
skin,
and
the
skin
is
what
you're
showing
the
outside
world.
So
I
think
frankly
or
I'm
sorry,
I
think
eden
is
amazing.
I
think
it's
doing
amazing
things,
but
I
also
looking
at
the
fundamentals.
I
understand
that
the
sort
of
association
may
be
something
that
is
hindering
both
eos
and
this
idea
of
fractal
governance.
J
M
You
were
saying
for
this
talking
that
having
the
technical
burden,
the
the
showing
people,
the
new
kind
of
blockchain
bringing
people
in
instead
of
just
advertising
between
the
people,
that's
already
there.
I
think
that
I
think,
like
I
I
I
don't
know.
I
really
think
it's
kind
of
I
don't
know
it's
too
much
pain
for
I
don't
know
if
any
gains
at
all,
that's
my
idea.