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From YouTube: EOS Community Weekly Fireside Chat - April 27th
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00:00:00 Waiting lobby
00:02:32 Introduction & today's agenda
00:05:38 Pomelo Season 2 Statistics by Stephane Bisson
00:10:31 When will Pomelo matching funds be claimable?
00:11:21 Community thoughts on Pomelo Season 2
00:14:20 ENF direct contributions to Pomelo grants by Yves La Rose
00:17:53 Leveraging Pomelo Pitch Sessions to get known by the community by Yves La Rose00:22:13 Different ways to promote your grant by Stephane Bisson
00:26:42 What are the repercussions for bad actors in Pomelo, question by Doug, answered by Yves
00:31:10 Yves La Rose advising not to shoot yourself in the foot
00:37:46 Thoughts on Quid Pro Quos in Pomelo by TrimBot, Chuck MacDonald
00:42:52 Hernan Abber ENF Grant Framework eligibility by Hernan Arber and Yves La Rose
00:50:50 ENF Ventures current processes by Hernan Arber and Yves La Rose
00:58:53 Upcoming Yield+ Blue Paper by Denis
01:01:18 Is the Yield+ Liquidity Incentive Program related to voting for block producers? By Eagle W and Denis
01:03:36 Stephane asks about Which DeFi protocols qualify for the Yield+ Liquidity Incentive Program by Stephane Bisson and Denis
01:06:42 Thoughts on Origin now managing Vigor by Zack Gall
01:11:32 Friday Gaming Night Update by Stephane Bisson
01:15:30 TrustEVM, gas token, shared protocol owned liquidity pools, resource costs, DeFi, RPC nodes incentives, who is the owner of TrustEVM, TrustEVM airdrop and/or token sale by Zack Gall and Yves La Rose
01:43:26 Why is TrustEVM launching as an IEO/IDO rather than an airdrop to EOS token holders by TrimBot, Zack Gall and Yves La Rose
02:00:13 How does TrustEVM benefit individual token holders by Yves La Rose
02:09:55 Thoughts about the TrustEVM token sale by Aaron Cox and Yves La Rose
02:20:15 Jay Taylor expresses appreciation for the work done by the ENF
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C
C
C
Two,
the
donation
period
closed
last
week
on
saturday,
so
we'll
be
talking
a
bit
about
the
next
steps
for
pomelo
season
two
and
then
also
talking
a
bit
about
pomelo
season,
three,
which
is
going
to
be
coming
around
just
a
corner
as
well.
We'll
talk
a
bit
about
yield,
plus
maybe
a
hash
over
some
elements
of
trust
evm
as
well.
We
had
the
eosy
pt
that
was
listed
this
week.
C
C
And
you
can
go
there
and
then
blend
five
pop
tokens
into
your
raffle
ticket.
We've
got
23
prizes
this
week.
The
prizes
will
be
given
out
at
the
end
of
next
week's
show.
So
you
can
use
your
pop
token
from
today
to
get
your
ticket
minted
in
time
yeah.
We
got
20
people
in
the
chat
thanks
for
joining
us.
Everyone,
if
you
want
to
say
hi
real
quick,
welcome
you
to
do
that
and
if
not
we're
just
going
to
wait
another
minute
or
two
before
we
get
into
it.
C
C
We
had
actually
a
lot
more
unique
contributors
this
season
than
last
season,
so
we're
right
now
we're
at
1790
unique
contributors
compared
to
1022
for
season
one.
So
that's
like
750,
more
people
or
so.
However,
we
are
currently
doing
some
analysis
on
the
donations.
There
were
some
civil
attacks
that
were
attempted
this
season.
That's
for
sure
we've
identified
some
pretty
conclusively.
C
So
it
still
counts
as
a
donation.
It's
just
not
being
you
know,
counted
from
multiple
accounts.
It
counts
from
one
account,
so
we're
we're
still
working
or
the
pomelo
team
is
still
working
on
doing
that
analysis,
we'll
be
publishing
a
report
once
that's
done
same
as
we
did
last
season
so
for
season
one.
We
also
published
such
a
report.
C
Maybe
someone
could
find
the
link
and
share
it
for
us
in
the
stream
chat,
but
you
can
expect
a
similar
type
of
report
for
season
two
in
terms
of
approved
grant
proposals.
We
nearly
doubled
from
season
one
to
season
two.
So
that's
great
and
that's
not
cyber
attack.
Those
are
real
numbers
so
season
one
we
had
74
grants
approved
season.
Two
we
had
a
139
indiana
grants
approved.
C
So
that's
really
great
love
to
see
that
kind
of
growth
on
pomelo
for
season
one
user
contributions,
we
had
a
total
of
130
000
worth
of
eos
donated
during
season
one.
We
surpassed
that
number
for
season
two
with
146
000
donations.
So
it's
great
to
see
that
we
surpassed
that
number,
especially
since
the
price
of
eos
is
actually
lower
now
than
it
was
before.
So
in
terms
of
eos.
You
know
it
was
about
thirty
thousand
eos
season
one
and
this
season
two
we
got
fifty
eight
thousand
eos.
C
So
that's
definitely
you
know
clear,
clear
growth
in
those
donations
and
even
if
some
of
these,
the
donations
may
be
civil
attacks
and
will
be
collapsed
into
a
single
donation.
The
total
amount
of
eons
donated
still
counts,
and
you
know
that
donation
is
still
going
to
those
grants.
10
of
all
donations
is
actually
reserved
for
future
matching
pools.
C
If
there's
enough
proof
that
shows
that
the
grand
owners
were
behind
the
civil
attack
or
having
your
donations
collapsed
and
then
having
10
of
those
donations,
you
know
carried
over
for
the
next
season.
So
so
those
are.
You
know
some
of
the
defense
mechanisms
that
the
pomelo
team
employs
against
cybel
final
stats.
C
Here
that
I
want
to
share
season,
one
matching
pool
and
user
contribution,
630
000
season,
2,
matching
pool
and
user
contributions,
one
million
fifty
nine
thousand
dollars
so
almost
a
double
there
as
well,
almost
a
double
in
the
terms
in
the
amount
of
eos
donated.
So
it's
really
great
we're
pomelo
team's
happy.
I
know
the
enf
team
is
also
happy
with
the
results
of
the
season
and
so
yeah.
Thanks
to
everyone
who
participated-
and
you
know,
we
hope
that
you
guys
built
some
awesome
stuff
with
the
you'll
receive.
C
If
you're
a
returning
grant
owner
from
season
one,
then
you
don't
need
to
kyc
again.
We've
already
got
that
on
file,
but
if
you're
a
new
grant
owner,
then
you'll
need
the
kyc.
So
you
can
get
that
done.
You
know
as
soon
as
possible
and
then
be
ready
for
those
matching
funds.
Once
they're
unlocked
after
the
report,
the
cyborg
report
is
published
all
right.
That
was
a
lot
of
information,
a
lot
of
pomelo
information.
C
Anyone
have
any
thoughts
to
share
on
pomelo
season,
two,
maybe
what
they
liked.
Some
surprises,
maybe
something
they
didn't
like
something
they'd
like
to
see
improved
for
season
three,
so
the
pomelo
team
is,
you
know
already
working
towards
season.
Three
we've
got
some
they're
working
on
on
specific
things,
but
of
course
we
always
want
as
much
feedback
as
possible
from
the
community.
C
E
D
Oh
all,
good,
I'm
good,
so
it's
just
a
general
and
if
it
is
kind
of
life
threat
like
the
contribution
and
the
stuff
like
this,
I
think
it
would
be
great
and
they
noticed
some
of
the
grants
they
did
not
have
the
social
links
so
like
for
some
grants.
I
really
like
their
idea,
but
they
have
no
reference
rather
than
their
proposal,
so
if
it
is,
if
it
will
be
kind
of
mandatory,
so
for
us
as
a
community
to
follow
up
with
their
progress
after
they
got
the
grant,
I
think
it
is
would
be
plus.
C
Yeah,
that's
a
good
feedback,
actually
I've.
I
had
the
same
impression
going
through
some
of
the
grants.
I
was
like
okay,
who,
who
is
behind
this
grant,
and
there
was
no
indication
of
who
was
behind
the
grant.
There
was
just
the
pomelo
account
which
doesn't
necessarily
which
links
to
an
eos
account
but
doesn't
necessarily
link
to
socials
or
way
of
contacting
grant
owners.
C
Yeah
right
now
we're
up
to
30
people
in
the
chat.
We've
got
a
lot
of
people
signing
up
for
the
pop
tokens,
it's
great
to
see
that's
going
on
in
the
stream
channel
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
be
familiar
with
that
yeah
any
other,
any
other
thoughts
from
people
on
pomelo
season.
Two
I
see
zach
and
eve
are
in
here
as
well.
I
know
the
enf
is
also
gonna,
be
doing
some
extra
contributions.
F
So
we
we've
gone
through
as
a
team
and
selected
the
likely
recipients
of
the
direct
contributions
we
will
make.
Those
public
after
pomelo
actually
delivers
its
governance
report.
So
what
we
want
to
ensure
for
obvious
reasons
is
that
we
didn't
select
the
project
that
turns
out.
They
tried
to
sybil
attack
the
network
or
something
like
that.
So
daniel
and
I
have
been
in
communication,
and
there
are
a
few
teams
that
I
guess
will
be
rejected
or
will
be
disqualified
for
the
season.
F
Those
weren't
teams
that
we
were
gonna
donate
to
anyways,
but
prior
to
making
again
prior
to
making
the
final
list
known
and
the
amounts
known.
We
wanted
short
that
that
all
is
kosher
in
that
regard.
I
know
the
pomelo
is
going
to
be
delivering
its
report
and
then
having
an
appeal
process
as
well.
So
it
is
possible
that
some
of
the
teams
that
were
disqualified
will
be
able
to
appeal-
and
you
never
know-
perhaps
they
they
are
in
the
right
and
so
we'll
make
those
announcements
later,
but
just
in
terms
of
general
exams.
F
I'd
also
say
that
it
was
brought
up
to
my
attention
that
there
was
one
where
it's
an
obvious
civil
attack
and
what
I
recommended
is
that
those
not
be
counted
at
all
so
not
just
collapsing
them
as
into
one
they
should
be
removed
from
the
algorithm
in
terms
of
matching,
because
even
if
you
collapse
them
into
one,
it
is
still
somebody
that
tried
to
attack
the
network.
They
should
not
be
rewarded
for
that,
and
so
that
is.
F
F
Not
sorry
not
500
match
500
extra
contribution
on
top
of
what
essentially
they're
already
receiving
through
pomelo
regular
means
all
the
way
up
to.
I
believe
the
largest
direct
contribution
is
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
so
you've
got
a
bunch
of
a
thousand
two
thousand
four
thousand
five
thousand
six
thousand
eight
thousand
nine
thousand,
and,
like
I
said,
one
of
them
is
likely
going
to
be
recipient
of
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
So
we
will
be
making
those
public
in
the
next
two
weeks
give
or
take
again.
F
It'll
depend
on
when
that
governance
report
from
pomelo
comes
out
and
we'll
try
to
align
it
so
that
the
intent
is
for
those
teams
when
they
go
to
claim
their
pomelo
matching
that
essentially,
the
the
extra
amount
add-on
from
the
enf
is
part
of
that
claim,
and
so
there's
no
we're
still
seeing
whether
or
not
that's
possible.
But
the
idea.
F
C
F
F
Last
week
it
was
the
the
rapid
fire
pubmed
pitch
session
and
such
zach,
and
I
have
been
present-
and
I
believe
brandon
has
also
been
present
on
on
all
of
these,
and
it
definitely
informed
my
decisions.
It
definitely
added
projects
that
I
had
not
known
of,
and
it
got
me
to
go,
look
into
them
and
to
and
to
essentially
donate
some
of
my
donations
to
them,
and
so
I
would
I
would
highly
recommend-
and
I've
been
saying
this
so
many
times
the
bar
to
entry
right
now
is
so
low.
F
F
There
are
people
that
have
reached
out
over
the
last
couple
of
months
and
that
wanted
to
participate
pomelo
and
they
did,
and
they
did
no
extra
marketing
and
all
the
tools
were
there
available
to
them,
and
they
really
did
very
little
and
then
it
reflects
in
the
contributions
received
at
some
point.
Eos
will
will
become
too
big.
The
communities
will
be
too
large.
F
Time
will
be
limited
and
you
will.
You
will
have
a
higher
barrier
to
entry
to
be
able
to
pitch
your
pomelo
pitches.
For
example,
in
the
sessions
like
we
do
on
the
fireside
chat,
because
there's
going
to
be
a
long
list
of
100
people
who
also
want
to
get
in
line
to
do
the
same,
the
barrier
to
entry
right
now
is
so
low.
The
potential
roi
is
so
high
camel
season.
Three
is
around
the
corner.
Again,
I
would
highly
advise
those
that
have
pomelo
pitches
to
take
the
time
go
on.
The
shows.
F
Generios
has
a
show.
Jimmy
d
does
a
show
fireside
here.
There's
there's
a
show,
there's
others
as
well
that
offer
their
services
to
put
you
out
there
and
help
you
market
it.
It
makes
a
big
difference.
We
can
definitely
see
that
those
that
were
out
there
that
are
known
receive
a
higher
proportion
of
the
contribution
fees,
not
just
from
the
enf
and
such
I
mean
actual.
You
know
individual
contributors.
We
can
see
that
it
makes
a
difference.
F
Go
out
there
make
yourself
known
if
we
compare
it
to
git
coin,
where
there
are
thousands
of
applicants,
there's
the
same
amount
of
funds
available,
but
now
you're
competing
for
the
same
pie,
but
it
gets
way
more
competition.
The
bearer
to
entry,
is
higher,
take
advantage
of
it.
While
you,
you
can
and
think
as
well
that
it's
not
what
you're
receiving
is
not
just
financial
support.
F
You're
building
trust
within
the
system,
you're
also
building
a
a
track
record
on
pomelo
and
in
eos
of
being
able
to
deliver
on
what
you
say
that
you're
going
to
do
it
gives
you
the
opportunity
to
really
stand
out
and
make
yourself
known
same
thing
with
eden
as
well.
The
barrier
to
entry
is
so
low.
The
the
the
election
occurred
earlier
this
month.
The
amount
of
people
that
show
up
is
so
few.
The
barrier
to
entry
is
so
low.
F
It
gives
you
the
opportunity
to
make
yourself
known
and
in
a
year
that
barrier
to
entry
ideally
will
be
much
much
much
higher
and
you
will
be
benefiting
from
the
early.
I
guess
early
time,
commitment
that
you've
put
towards
this.
In
my
opinion,
it's
a
no-brainer.
The
roi
potential
roi
is
so
high.
Take
the
time
yeah.
C
It's
kind
of
like
you're,
an
early
adopter
of
this
new
network
right
then
you
know
early
adopters
of
crypto
networks.
They
get
to
buy
the
tokens,
you
know
cheap
and
then
they
get
upside,
but
in
pomelo.
What
you're
getting
is
the
ability
to
build
that
reputation
when,
like
eve,
says,
there's
not
too
much
competition
yet,
which
will
definitely
increase.
As
we
saw,
we
doubled
pretty
much
double
the
amount
of
grants
that
were
applied
from
season
one
to
season
two.
I
definitely
expect
season
three
to
see
even
more
grants
and.
C
Yeah
and
exactly,
and
so
just
to
throw
back
to
the
marketing
initiatives
that
we
had.
Obviously
I'm
hosting
these
fireside
chats,
I
organized
the
pitch
sessions
for
the
fireside
chat.
There
was
also
in
that
same
form
you
could
apply,
like
you
mentioned,
to
the
generio's
youtube
pitch
sessions
and
our
eos
nation
asia
team
was
also
hosting
tencent
meeting
pitch
sessions
on
there
for
the
asian
community.
So
we
did
see
some.
C
You
know
english
speaking,
grants
such
as
jesse
from
the
bees
go
on
to
this
10
cent
meeting
pitch
session
and
our
eos
nation
asia
team
helps
translate
for
these
for
these
sessions.
So
if
you're,
you
only
speak
english
that
doesn't
mean
you
can't
go
out
there
and
talk
to
the
asian
community.
We
have
translators
on
the
call
that
help
facilitate
that.
So
that's
definitely
coming
back
for
season.
Three.
C
Definitely
going
to
be
doing
the
petitions
again
personally,
when
I'm
going
through
a
list
of
grants,
checking
out
what
I
want
to
donate
to.
I
know
that
when
I
see
a
grant
that
took
the
time
to
apply
to
the
pitch
session,
that
makes
me
much
much
likelier
to
help
to
donate.
To
them
probably
a
bit
because
I'm
organizing
the
pitch
sessions-
but
you
know,
I
think,
like
you've
said
that
also
applies
to
a
lot
of
love
with
other
people.
C
You
get
expo
you
get
exposed
to
the
eos
community
in
a
wider
in
a
wider
sense
and
more
people
are
going
to
donate,
so
yeah
definitely
be
on
the
lookout
for
the
pitch
sessions
for
next
season.
We're
going
to
be
starting
them
earlier
a
bit
earlier,
because
I
couldn't
fit
everyone
in
the
pit
session.
There
was
more
applications
than
than
spots.
C
When
we
were
doing
you
know
two
per
show,
I
tried
to
kind
of
select
the
most
well-known
grants
by
the
people
who
attend
the
fireside
chats
every
week,
who
have
been
known
in
the
community
for
a
long
time
and
that
I'm
very,
very
confident
that
it's
not
you,
know
a
scam
grant
or
whatever,
and
that
these
people
can
deliver
on
what
they
say
and
then
we're
gonna
do
the
rapid
fire
as
well.
I
think
that
that
was
a
really
nice
success.
Everyone
came
ready
with
their
two-minute
pitch.
That
was
sharp.
C
It
was,
I
think,
people
enjoyed
that
so
we'll
definitely
be
doing
that
again
next
season.
We
also
did
a
retweet
campaign
where
we
encourage
people
to
tweet
to
tag
pomelo
grants
hashtag
to
mello
grants
as
well
and
do
a
small
explanation
of
what
the
grant
was
with
a
link
and
then
so
we'll
be
doing
that
again
next
year.
Maybe
I
asked
the
pomelo
team
if
it'd
be
possible
to
kind
of
send
those
instructions
as
an
automated
email
whenever
their
grants
gets
approved.
C
So
hopefully
I'm
hoping
to
see
that
feature
available
for
season
three
and
in
terms
of
timing,
we,
you
know
the
the
pomelo
team
is
aiming
to
get
these
four
seasons
per
year
right.
So
that
means
that
there's
a
new
season
that
has
to
start
every
three
months
season,
two
started
about
a
month
ago.
So
if
we're
trying
to
hit
that
target,
that
means
season
three
would
start
in
about
two
months,
so
the
date
is
not
yet
fixed,
but
that's
what
we're
aiming
for.
C
You
know
one
thing
that
I
really
enjoyed
when
I
read
a
grant
is
that
the
grant
applicants
actually
show
a
sample
of
the
work
they're
going
to
do,
and
they
show
me
that
they've
already
started
doing
it
even
before
you
know
they
receive
their
matching
funds.
Now,
that's
not
possible
for
all
grants,
but
if
it
is
possible
you
know
I
I
personally
think
you
know
that's
very
important
and,
and
that
incentivizes
me
or
encourages
me,
you
know
to
donate
to
those
grants.
So
it's
not
too
early
to
start
thinking
about
your
season,
3
pitch.
C
We
will
be
opening
the
pitch
sessions
on
fireside
before
the
grants,
potentially
even
before
you
can
submit
grants
to
the
official
middle
platform.
So
if
you're
really
organized
you're
on
the
ball,
with
your
grant,
you
want
to
get
some
exposure.
You
know
get
your
grant
ready
stay
on
the
lookout
for
the
fires
for
the
pitch
session
form,
which
will
be
out.
You
know,
leading
up
to
season
three.
C
Okay,
we've
got
the
doug
here.
Sharing
some
links
about
various
pitches
sort
of
by
highest
amount
raised
lowest
amount
raised.
You
know
this
is.
It
is
important
to
note
that
this
is
before
we've
adjusted
for
the
cybel
attacks,
so
these
amounts
will
be
changing,
but
it
is
interesting
to
to
take
a
look.
Also.
I
noticed
doug
said
you
know,
asked
a
good
question
saying
here:
are
there
any
repercussions
for
bad
actors
in
pomelo
and
will
any
information
of
their
identities
be
publicly
disclosed?
F
Go
for
it.
The
answer
is
yes,
and
yes,
don't
shoot
yourself
in
the
foot.
There
are
repercussions
we
are
following.
Dnf
is
definitely
following
as
the
main
matching
partner,
I'm
constantly
in
communication
with
daniel
about
it
and
the
pomelo
team,
because
there
are
certain
things
that
are
not
black
and
white
gray
or
how
to
deal
with
them.
F
But
I've
made
it
known
publicly
in
the
pamela
channel
as
well
that
those
that
abuse
of
the
system
and
that
it
is
obvious
that
they
are
attempting
to
abuse
of
the
system,
will
will
have
repercussions
in
terms
of
the
governance
framework.
Sorry,
not
the
governance
framework,
the
governance
report.
Afterwards,
that
is,
output.
You
can
see
in
season
one
that
the
the
identities
of
those
that
either
intentionally
or
non-intentionally
were
removed
or
were
disqualified,
is
is
made
known.
So
it
is
not
a
secret.
It
is
not
private.
F
Having
said
that,
though,
in
my
opinion,
it
is
obvious
that
there's
still
work
to
do
from
the
pomelo
team
in
order
to
ensure
that
people
know
what
the
the
rules
are
and
the
most
obvious
one
is
the
quid
pro
quo.
It
is
to
me
it
is
obvious
that
it's
still
an
issue
that
people
don't
know
because
they
can't
be
that
stupid,
pardon
my
language,
but
there
are
some
people
that
are
clearly
very
they're.
No
known
members
of
the
community
very
publicly
went
out.
F
This
season
said
hey:
if
for
every
dollar,
that
you
contribute
I'll
make
direct
reciprocation,
so
either
they're
really
stupid,
and
so
they're
gonna
get
a
slap
on
their
wrist
because
they
should
know
better,
and
so
I
doubt
that
they're
malicious,
I
think
more.
So
it
is
that
people
really
don't
know
and
they
don't
read,
and
that
is
a
responsibility
that
they
need
to
take.
So
yes,
there
are
repercussions
on
that.
F
You
do,
for
some
of
them
get
a
warning
and
at
some
point
there
will
be
no
more
warnings
and
I
will
advise
that
we
will
disqualify
them
or
that
we
will
not
want
a
match
to
them.
There's
no
excuse!
So
we,
the
pomelo
team,
needs
to
get
better
to
explain
the
rules,
but
the
community
also
needs
to
to
get
better
at
that.
You
can't.
F
The
community
also
needs
to
enforce
itself,
and
this
is
where
pomelo
season
one
was
really
really
good.
A
lot
of
the
reports
came
from
other
members,
and
people
are
are
helping
make
the
system
better,
but
the
community
itself
also
needs
to
be
better
at
understanding
why
those
rules
are
in
place
and
why
they
they
are
better
for
everybody.
G
F
C
And
in
terms
of
you
know
the
pomelo
team
getting
better
at
explaining
these
things.
I
definitely
agree,
there's
probably
room
for
improvement
there,
and
I
know
the
pomelo
team
did
hire
recently
additional
people
on
the
team
and
and
so
they're
hoping
to
produce
more
content
and
communication
throughout
the
next
season.
So
hopefully
you
know
that
will
be
part
of
it
as
well,
which
I'm
sure
it
will
be
and
if
you
haven't
noticed
yet,
if
you
try
to
attack
pomelo
eve
is
personally
insulted,
and
so
I
I
really.
C
I
really
really
just
do
not
recommend
this
strategy.
If
you
want
to
be
a
long
time
contributor
in
the
else
network
you
know
and
and
like
you
said,
the
whole
community
really
rallies
behind
pomelo.
It's
been
great
to
see
the
reception
from
the
community
and
a
lot
of
reports
of
the
community
members.
You
know
saying
hey,
I
saw
here's.
A
screenshot
of
this
message
you
know
is
this:
is
this
against
the
rules
or
hey?
Take
a
look.
F
I
would
really
advise
yeah.
That's
one
thing
like
when
you're
bragging
about
gaming,
the
system
to
another
user,
just
heads
up
those
users
are
then
sending
those
screenshots
to
us
like
just
don't
do
it.
It's
not
worthwhile.
This
system
is
a
trust
system
that
we're
building
it's
not
worthwhile,
trying
to
game
it
in
season
two.
F
So
I
don't
advise
it.
It's
just
not
worth
the
time,
build
your
reputation.
Think
of
this
as
a
long
term
portal
that
you're
able
to
build
a
name
for
yourself
in
and
eventually
in
in
the
long
term,
there's
going
to
be
more
matches,
there's
going
to
be
more
money
in
the
pod,
not
necessarily
from
the
enf
but
from
others.
Just
look
at
git
coin
go
look
at
bitcoin
and
the
community
that's
been
built
there
and
the
the
community.
That's
formed
and
kind
of
what
that
means
to
the
ecosystem.
That's
what
we're
aiming
for!
H
Yeah
and
hi
everyone
so
just
to
ban
that
point
of
how
small
the
community
is
it.
It
expands
also
beneath
you
know,
outside
of
palmello
right.
So
there
are,
for
example,
some
if
some
projects
that
are
you
know
being
analyzed
for
potentially
trying
to
game
the
system
or
a
cyber
attack
that
participated
in
the
helios
incubator
right.
So
then
that
is,
that
might
definitely
hinder
their
possibilities
of
of
getting
a
a
private
investment,
because
you
know
it
it.
H
It
affects
your
credibility
right,
you're,
it's
it's
a
very,
very,
very
you
know
the
how
well
you
can
deliver
in
the
tech.
It's
sometimes
it's
pending
a
lot
of
variables,
but
you
know
if
you're,
trustworthy
or
not
that's
a
very
kind
of
a
one
and
zero.
Very
very
you
know
no,
no,
no
brainer
situation
for
any
investor
that
wants
to
support
your
project
so
yeah,
that's
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
taken
into
account.
You
know
being
the
the
community
being
some
so
small.
H
F
And
I
see
that
douglas
is
saying.
I
think
we
should
map
out
potential
collusion
relationships
between
bad
actors.
Eos
detective
has
been
out
for
three
years.
Just
go.
Look
at
a
yacht
detective
like
you're,
not
hiding
all
the
data's
on
the
blockchain,
that's
kind
of
the
point
of
the
blockchain,
and
there
are
now
visualization
tools
that
have
been
out
for
quite
some
time
that
can
make
this
process
very
easy
to
track.
F
C
C
C
So
I'm
gonna
share
here
the
link
to
the
medium
article
from
season,
one
for
the
analysis
of
season.
One
and
you
know
you'll
see
in
there
one
of
the
screenshots
from
eos
detective
that
is
used
to
kind
of
visualize
the
cybel
attacks
and
they're,
very,
very
obvious
when,
when
visualized
in
this
way,
through
yaw's
detective,
so
I'm
sure
I'm
sure
we'll
see
more
of
these
types
of
graphs.
You
know
for
season
two.
C
You
know
if
you
want
to
go
out
there
on
yale
detective,
look
up
the
donation
accounts
of
various
grants.
You
can
certainly
do
that
if
we've
got
some
blockchain
detectives
that
want
to
send
us
some
screenshots
to
stuff
that
they
think
seems
suspicious.
Obviously
we're
very
happy
for
people
who
want
to
do
that.
We
know
a
lot
of
people
submitted
reports
through
the
platform.
You
know
highlighting
various
grants
that
they
thought
were
suspicious.
C
So
definitely,
you
know
feel
very
free
to
send
over
any
information
you
can.
You
know.
Pomelo
is
a
really
crowdsourced
platform
in
many
ways
and
so
and
the
more
active
we
have
our
our
community
in
pomelo.
That
means
the
stronger
we
are
as
at
resisting
against
cyber
attacks,
which
really
you
know,
attacks
all
of
the
donators,
all
of
the
grants
and
the
entire
eos
network.
Really
so
you
know
so
far.
C
A
Hey
trimbot
here,
real
quick
just
on
the
topic
of
the
quick
pro
quo
and
violation
of
pamela
rules,
one
thought
that
I
had
that
could
be
pretty
helpful.
Is
when
you're
on
boarding
people
onto
the
pro
the
platform
like
when
they're
trying
to
create
the
first
brand,
for
example,
there
could
be
like
a
little
quiz
at
the
end,
just
be
like
hey
like.
Can
you
do
this?
A
C
Yeah,
absolutely
definitely,
I
know
it's
something
that
pomelo
team
has
already
been
thinking
of
of
how
to
implement
in
the
future.
I
like
the
idea
of
a
quiz
kind
of
like
finance,
did
to
me
when
I
wanted
to
trade
the
futures
they're
like.
Are
you
sure
you
know
what
you're
doing
son
so
yeah?
I
like
I
like
that
idea
for
sure.
I
C
Yeah
yeah,
so
that's
it's
a
gray
line.
It's
I.
I
can't
give
a
definitive
answer,
but
I
think
what's
very
important
is
that
it's
not
promised
ahead
of
time
right
so
so
that's
definitely
part
of
it
so
that
people
shouldn't
be
expecting
it
now,
if
your
grant,
you
don't
promise
it,
but
then
you
send
out
a
thank
you
nft,
and
then
you
do
that.
Every
season
then
does
it
become
expected.
Is
that
a
quid
pro
quo,
etc?
You
know
about
these
nft
gifts.
C
Specifically
one
thing
you
can
do
to
make
sure
your
nft
is
not
considered.
An
exchange
of
value
is
make
it
non-transferable
if
an
ft
is
just
kind
of
a
badge
that
you
can't
transfer,
then
there's
no
way
to
sell
it.
There's
no
way
to
make
that
thing
valuable.
So
you
know
if
you
want
to
send
an
nft
to
all
your
donators,
make
it
non-transferable,
don't
promise
it
ahead
of
time.
I
think
that
would
probably
be
okay.
You
can
also
always
reach
out
to
the
pomelo
team.
You
know
at
any
time.
C
I
know
daniel
has
been
kind
of
in
charge
of
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
these
types
of
questions.
I'm
not
sure
if
he
will
still
be
the
point
man
on
that
for
season
three,
but
you
can
definitely
still
reach
out
to
him
and
you
know
he'll
communicate
that
to
the
team.
So
if
you
guys
have
ideas
of
stuff
like
that
and
you're,
not
sure
hey,
is
this
quick
pro
quo
or
reciprocation?
C
Send
a
message-
or
you
know,
share
in
the
public
chat
in
in
discord
here
or
on
telegram
share
in
the
public
chat
so
that
the
whole
community
can
kind
of
have
the
discussion
together
and
see
kind
of
establish
some
clear
rules
about
what
is
allowed
and
what
is
not
in
the
end,
you
don't
want
to
be
straddling
the
line.
If
you
know,
there's
a
line
somewhere
make
sure
you're
staying
well
behind
the
line.
We
don't
want
to
see
people
pushing
the
line
and
trying
to
justify
themselves.
C
H
C
H
C
H
H
H
It's
not
only
a
ground,
a
great
gr
brand
framework,
but
it's
also
it
maybe
put
a
lot
of
work
into.
Oh,
okay,
wait!
What
exactly
is
my
budget
right?
Sometimes
it's
because
it's
gonna
be
milestone
based,
I
really
had
to
you
know,
do
crunch
some
numbers
and
getting
to
oh
okay,
so
this
is
actually
what
the
budget
that
I'll
be
needing
to
get
the
project
done.
So
so
that's
that's
already
a
win.
So
thank
you
for
that.
C
F
I
F
F
To
say
in
the
grand
project
and
I'll
answer,
I
guess
a
few
things
in
the
in
the
grand
project:
there
are
their
rules
same
thing
as
pomelo
and
one
of
the
grant
project
minimum
requirements
is
we
do
not
award
grants
for
projects
that
have
been
the
object
of
a
token
sale,
so
I'm
sorry
to
say,
but
your
grant
application
doesn't
apply
or
doesn't
qualify
as
it
as
it
currently
stands
for
now.
Having
said
that,.
F
F
F
The
grants
that
the
the
applications
that
we
receive
vary
in
length
between
five
to
seven
pages
worth
of
text
when
you,
when
you
summarize
them
or
when
you,
when
you
compile
them
into
a
document,
and
what
we
are
doing
here,
is
we're
building
the
process
to
take
those
translate
them.
First
of
all,
correct
them
as
well,
because
some
people
that
are
submitting
these,
the
english
is
perhaps
not
their
first
language
and
so
prior
to
translating
them.
We
need
to
proofread
them,
make
some
changes
so
that
they
can
be
understood.
F
We
then
send
them
to
translation
after
that's
done,
then
we
bundle
them
up
and
the
idea
is
over
a
period
of
time,
we'll
bundle
these
up
every
two
weeks
to
be
able
to
send
them
to
the
committee.
The
committee
reviews
they've
got
a
few
days
to
do
that
and
then,
once
the
committee
says,
yay
or
nay
they
get
sent
to
the
evaluators.
F
The
evaluators
then
take
the
much
deeper
analysis
of
looking
through
the
actual
team
that
is
applying
and
seeing
whether
or
not
the
the
team
is
capable,
from
a
technical
point
of
view
of
actually
delivering
what
they
say,
they'll
deliver
and
then
doing
it
just
a
generally
more
a
thorough
review,
and
I
invite
you
to
go
read
in
the
grant
framework
kind
of
really
what
that
process
is.
It's
quite
well
laid
out
once
that's
done,
then
the
teams
will
be
contacted
and
that's
when
the
administrative
process
begins
with
the
teams
themselves.
F
So
this
would
be
assuming
that
the
committee
has
said.
Yes,
the
evaluators
have
said
yes,
and
that
threshold
has
been
passed
now.
Dnf
just
goes
back
in
operations
mode
to
deal
with
the
team
to
collect
some
of
the
information.
For
example,
kyc
and
sun
should
actually
write
a
grant
agreement
and
then
proceed
through
the
milestone
component
of
things,
making
any
adjustments
that
were
that
were
perhaps
recommended
by
the
evaluators,
and
then
you
know
delivering
through
the
process.
F
The
first
batch
of
people
that
have
applied
will
likely
not
be
receiving
any
funding,
for,
I
would
say,
to
be
very
upfront,
maybe
a
month
and
a
half
to
two
months
as
we
work
through
this
process
with
them.
After
that,
however,
seeing
as
we'll
be
doing
this
on
a
bi-weekly
to
monthly
basis
depending
on
the
number
of
applications,
then
the
flow
will
begin.
So
the
first
batch
or
the
first
applicants
are
the
longest
ones
to
receive
a
an
answer.
F
And
ideally
then
the
idea
will
be
that
it
will
be
roughly
on
a
bi-weekly
to
monthly
basis
is
when
people
will
expect
or
should
expect
to
have
a
an
answer
and
then
the
process
to
begin.
But,
yes,
we
have
been
reviewing
those
that
have
been
submitted.
We've
had
only
a
few
so
far
of
formal
ones.
I
hope
that
answers
that
question.
But
yes,
I
I'm
sorry
to
say
we
do
not
award
grants
for
projects
that
have
been
objects
of
a
token
sale
and.
I
F
Damn,
having
said
that,
it
does
not
mean,
though,
and
this
is
where
I've
talked
about
before
we
recognize
that
there's
still
gaps
in
the
system.
Helios
is
trying
to
fill
one
of
those
gaps
by
being
a
traditional
vc
type
of
entity.
The
enf
is
also
working
on
something
that
we
mentioned
before,
and
we
talked
about
it
last
week
and
I
talked
about
it
during
the
the
evm
launch
event
as
well,
that
the
enf
ventures
component
of
things
will
kind
of
come
and
complement
these
three
other
pillars
that
are
currently
live
and
ongoing.
H
Yeah
I've
watched
the
the
full
explanation,
the
video
it's.
I
think
it's
it's
super
cool.
If,
if
I
did
have
you
made,
have
you
gotten
clarity
on
on
how
the
process
works
to
to
be
an
actual
like
vc,
the
and
and
by
returning
the
profits
to
the
ecosystem?
That
still
still
constitutes
a
non-profit?
Is
that,
like
I.
F
F
Profit
exists
when
you
don't
have
an
expense
to
offset
that
revenue
and
you
generate
a
profit.
A
non-for-profit
can
still
have
cash
flow.
A
not-for-profit
can
still
generate
revenue.
What
it
cannot
do
is
generate
any
profit,
and
so
if
there
is
revenue,
for
example,
currently
the
the
enf
has
revenue.
It
has
revenue
from
the
from
inflation.
F
The
tokens
that
are
allocated
not
not
that
are
going
through
inflation
directly,
but
the
tokens
that
are
then
allocated
because
of
a
in
matching
expense
and
so
there's
definitely
cash
flow.
There's
definitely
revenue,
but
there
isn't
is
any
profit
now,
in
the
case
of
enough
ventures
or
any
other,
let's
say
endeavor
that
the
enf
would
do
or
any
other
not-for-profit.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
enf.
As
long
as
you
have
a
matching
expense,
then
you're
not
running
a
profit.
F
Now,
what
makes
the
enf
unique
in
this
case
or
where
we're
trying
to
align
the
incentives,
is
that
the
bylaws
and
the
mandate
of
this
particular
non-for-profit
is
of
a
growth
of
eos.
And
if
you
give
me
a
second
I'll,
actually
read
to
you,
because
I
just
sent
it
for
something.
So
just
give
me
a
second.
F
So
the
current
mission
mandate
is
to
encourage
the
development
and
growth
of
the
eos
network
by
administrating
the
financial
support
by
administrating,
administering
the
financial
support
of
and
providing
non-financial
support
to
projects
and
entities
within
the
greater
eos
community
with
a
view
to
creating
positive
global
change.
So
again,
your
question
about
how
will
the
enf
handle
revenue
is
that
we
we
have
revenue.
F
So
the
ian
ventures,
the
idea,
the
same
thing
with
the
evm,
is
if
those
projects
run
a
profit
and
part
of
that
profit
goes
to
the
enf
well
for
the
enough.
That
is
not
profit
for
the
enough.
That
is
a
revenue
that
revenue
needs
to
be
offset
with
an
expanse
that
expands
as
per
our
mission.
Mandate,
has
to
be
on
eos,
and
so
any
revenue
or
any
cash
flow
that
goes
through
the
not-for-profit,
has
to
be
deployed
on
eos.
I
K
F
These
these,
these,
these
other
investments
that
dnf
has
made,
could
come
potentially
offset
all
of
the
requirements
for
the
enf
to
be
leveraging
any
inflation.
However,
it
has
to
spend
that
on
eos,
so
you
could
see
a
future
where
the
function
that
enf
currently
fulfills
could
continue
happening
by
law
because
of
its
mandate,
without
costing
anything
to
the
token
holders.
B
H
F
H
H
And
I
imagine
that
the
the
the
the
enf
it's
in
the
best
position
to
also
offer
like
some
d5
services
or
or
set
up
like
an
official
eos
stable
coin.
You
know
and
then
we
can
model
off
some
some
of
those
successful
models
like
the
the
terra
luna
thing
and
and
that
could
potentially
offset
the
whole
the
whole
system.
If
it
works
out
right.
F
So
the
first
flagship
product
right
now
is
the
evm.
So
I
talked
about
it
last
week,
so
I
won't
go
in
detail
again
as
to
why
that
particular
model
was
chosen
so
I'll
just
fast
that,
through
that
the
evm
is
the
first
flagship
product
of
that
model,
which
then
the
intent
is
to
scale
that
model
and
the
the
governance
process
and
the
legal
process
et
cetera
through
e
m
ventures.
F
H
K
Great
yeah
thanks
steph,
I
think
we'll
keep
it
pretty
short
because
again
we're
more
in
the
final
delivery
of
yield
plus
so
right
now
we're
kind
of
in
the
stage
the
last
leg
of
writing
the
blue
paper
for
yield,
plus,
which
is
mostly
the
document
assembly,
editing,
proofreading,
making.
Sure
the
english
is
not.
K
You
know
one
english,
there's,
uk
english,
us
english,
those
little
small
little
details,
so
we're
kind
of
just
in
that
last
leg
and
the
document
should
be
delivered
by
this
week
end
of
week
and
once
it's
delivered
to
enf,
then
it
goes
into
another
review
stage.
Graphic
designers
will
be
involved
to
kind
of
create
the
the
final
paper.
It
will
be
sent
to
translation
for
chinese
and
korean.
K
That
way,
we
kind
of
have
that
multilingual
blue
paper
that
you
would
see
from
all
the
different
blue
papers
that
are
released
and
once
the
paper
is
released
to
the
public,
we
will
schedule
sort
of
community
feedback
sessions
twitter
spaces.
Even
fireside
chats.
You
know,
then
we
can
all
talk
about
the
details.
K
K
C
Awesome
yeah,
I'm
looking
forward
to
learning
more
as
well.
We
had
an
interesting
question
from
eagle
w,
it's
kind
of
got
it
kind
of
incorporates
a
lot
of
different
topics.
I'm
not
sure
you
can
address
all
of
them,
but
maybe
you
can
address
some
of
them,
so
he
says
here:
can
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
liquidity,
rewards
with
yield
plus,
and
he
asked
is
this
a
solution
for
vote
buying
that
way?
Bps
can
focus
on
making
improvements
and
not
paying
voters.
C
Then
he
says
that
he
saw
the
earlier
post,
the
video
that
was
posted
with
you,
denis,
which
was
a
quote
from
last
week's
fireside
with
great
info,
but
he
wanted
clarification
on
this.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
even
a
topic,
you
want
to
address
right
now,
but
I
figured
I'd
throw
it
your
way
since
it
was
shared
in
the
chat.
K
Yeah,
I
can
at
least
touch
on
the
the
a
few
things,
so
mostly
the
reward
incentives
is
to
promote
active
d5
protocols,
which
means
that
if
you
are
a
bp
and
you
want
to
collect,
let's
say,
rewards
or
you're
an
actor
in
the
ecosystem,
you
will
need
to
develop
an
active
d5
protocol
swap
pool
lending.
You
know
derivative
something
it
is
not
a
vote
exchange
incentive
mechanism,
so
there
is
no
rewards
for
voting
this.
K
So
this
is
purely
a
liquidity
reward
program
and
not
a
voting
mechanism
revenue
model,
so
you
will
have
to
build
and
develop
and
attract
liquidity
to
an
active
d5
protocol
to
participate.
So
that
way,
the
liquidity
that
is
rewarded
is
is
an
active
use
right.
It's
it's
actual
liquidity
in
the
ecosystem,
doing
d5
work.
You
know
whether
it
doesn't
matter
what
protocol
you're
hosting,
but
it
needs
to
be
in
a
protocol.
A
K
C
K
Those
are
active
protocols
that
have
current
liquidity
in
them
or
swap
pools
like
dfs,
again
d5
box
or
there's
a
few
other
swap
pools
on
the
on
the
ecosystem,
but
practically
any
any
protocol.
That
is
that
have
liquidity
currently
and
it
isn't.
In
current
use.
There
will
be
a
minimum
like
a
tvl
minimum
again
that
would
be
a
configuration
of
the
system
contract,
so
they
will
have
to
meet
a
minimum
tvl
requirement
to
be
eligible
to
join
the
program
and
a
maximum
of
tvl
threshold.
K
K
K
Correct,
yes,
it's
going
to
be
both
supported
for
eos
mainnet,
that's
a
native
chain
and
evm
the
trust
evm
chain,
and
but
once
once
we
have
that
trust,
evm
chained
there
were
gonna,
be
a
bridges.
You
know
we
can.
You
can
bridge
over
your
eos
you'll
bridge
over
your
tether
and
that
tether,
untrust,
evm
or
native
eos
will
will
both
be
counted
towards
that
liquidity,
rewards
system.
I
E
I
thought
it
was
impressive
because
I
asked
you
on
one
of
the
calls
to
get
me
for
the
translations
of
page
counting,
a
word
count
so
just
to
give
people
a
heads
up
of
what
to
expect
here,
clocks
in
at
52
pages,
at
almost
13
000
words.
So
this
is
probably
the
most
detailed
d5
program.
That's
been
released,
like
I
know
a
lot
of
the
initial
ideas.
E
E
We
were
just
like
rapid
firing
them
like
in
the
month
of
february,
just
dropping
like
60
70
page
documents
week
after
week,
four
weeks
in
a
row
almost
I
think
one
of
them
was
a
little
bit
later,
but
this
one
will
kind
of
be
the
only
giant
document
that
we're
going
to
be
publishing
at
that
time.
So
it
should,
and
it's
a
really
interesting
topic
to
a
lot
of
people.
E
K
Yeah
no
way,
oh
no
I'll,
second,
that
as
well
yeah,
it's
a
pretty
beefy
paper,
so
again,
52
pages
again,
it
might
be
a
little
bit
less
because
maybe
we'll
have
some
some
headers
removed,
but
yeah.
It
covers
a
lot
of
things.
So
it
covers.
You
know,
market
risks.
It
identifies
also
the
dangers
of
of
defy
not
only
that
there's
a
lot
of
positives
with
d5,
but
it
covers
also.
K
What
is
the
risk
so
that
users
understand
what
they're
getting
into
it
goes
over
market
analysis
saying
what
is
the
d5
performance
of
a
chain
that
has
that
type
of
market
cap
and
tvl
ratio,
and
and
then
they
introduce
a
reward
system?
What
is
the
impact
of
that
chain?
And
one
of
the
big
sections
is
actually
treasury
management,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
liquidity
incentives.
K
They
talk
about
the
rewards,
but
they
don't
actually
talk
about
how
they're
going
to
manage
that
treasury
and
how
are
they
going
to
manage
the
regulatory
part
of
is
this
system
contract
level?
Is
this
a
one
team
owns
this
protocol
who
owns
the
permission
structure,
there's
a
lot
of
details
that
goes
into
the
treasury
management
of
setting
up
these
types
of
reward
systems?
K
So
we
dive
into
really
deep
details
into
how
to
organize
or
recommend
options
through
the
community
on
how
to
how
to
operate
this,
because
it's
gonna
be
the
the
community
and
the
system
to
operate
this
so
yeah,
it's
it's
packed
with
a
lot
of
fun
all
fun
a
lot
of
details,
so
I
think
people
will
be
really
engaged
with
reading
this.
This
document,
if
they
get
from
a
to
zed
or
maybe
just
skim
certain
sections
that
they
want
to
that
they're
curious
about.
K
C
Quiz
for
those
who
want
to
either
come
flex
their
knowledge
or
come
learn
about
the
blue
paper
through
a
fun
little
quiz,
so
we
were
hosting
these
kahoot
quizzes
every
week.
Now
we
stopped
hosting
them
every
week,
we'll
just
be
hosting
them.
When
there's
a
blue
paper
relevant
working
group
stuff
like
this,
so
that
would
probably
be
the
next
one-
and
also,
I
guess
I'll-
take
this
time
to
mention
that
you
know
instead
of
the
gaming
nights
on
friday,
which
weren't
attended
that
weren't
that
well
attended.
C
Probably
many
reasons
for
that.
But
what
instead
I'll
be
doing
is
I'll,
be
organizing,
maybe
a
monthly
poker
tournament
of
sorts
for
the
eos
community.
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
it's
gonna
work
for
buy-ins,
but
it's
probably
gonna,
be
charity.
Oriented
or
maybe
pomelo
charity
oriented
something
like
that.
So
if
you
have
any
ideas
or
thoughts
or
if
you
want
to
see
a
eos
poker
tournament,
send
me
a
message.
C
Let
me
know
what
you
think:
I'm
kinda
thinking
of
a
few
ideas,
and-
and
hopefully
you
know
I'll-
have
some
more
some
more
news
about
that
in
the
coming
weeks.
All
right,
we
so
yeah,
thanks
again
denise
for
all
this
great
yield,
plus
information.
I
see
k
von
bazel
here
in
the
chat,
wrote
something
about
the
trusty
vm
that
I
want
to
bring
up.
So
he
says
here
most
of
you
are
okay.
The
trust
evm
is
a
public
good,
no
returns,
no
price
impact.
C
C
So
last
week
we
had
obviously
the
fireside
chat
a
day
after
the
great
trustee
vm
twitter
space
event
that
was
hosted
by
the
enf,
and
we
went
through
that
fireside
chat
and
we
added
a
lot
of
detailed
time
stamps
and
chapters
for
that
video.
So
if
you
go
to
the
everything
eos
youtube
channel
check
out
the
fireside
from
last
week
check
out
the
chapters
you'll
see
a
nice
breakdown
of
a
lot
of
different
topics
of
trust
evm.
C
A
few
of
them
address
this
topic
in
terms
of
how
is
how
are
the
eos
token
holders
going
to
benefit
from
the
trustee
vm?
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
check
that
out.
Not
all
the
information
about
trust
evm
is
out
yet
you
know
that
was
just
the
announcement
of
this
project,
and
this
I
mean
this
product,
but
the
product
team
from
trustee
vm
is
going
to
be
releasing
more
information
about
some,
so
some
things
that
may
relate
to
that
those
that
question
that
you
had.
C
Okay,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
jump
in
on
the
chat
here.
I
had
to
mute
you
earlier
because
your
mic
was
on
I'll
unmute.
You
seems,
like
you
got
your
mic:
muted,
not
cool.
So
if
you
want
to
jump
in
the
chat
there
feel
free
to
do
do
that
but
yeah.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
to
remind
everyone
if,
if
you
missed,
if
you're
listening
on
youtube,
you
missed
last
week's
fireside.
C
It
was
really
good
a
lot
of
good
and
we've
got
a
nice
breakdown
of
the
chapters
and
the
time
stamps.
So
you
can
go
check
that
out
and
really
just
quickly
jump
into
whatever
topic.
You
know
that
interests
you
we'll
be
getting
these
timestamps
out
for
these
fireside
chats
more
regularly
now
we'll
be
doing
it
for
every
for
every
episode
and
we'll
try
to
get
them
out
with
a
fairly
fast
turnaround.
So
hopefully
you
know
where
these
these
are
sides
go
live
wednesday
afternoon,
hopefully,
by
wednesday
evening.
C
You
know
these
timestamps
are
going
to
be
up
there
on
the
youtube
video,
that's
published
on
the
everything
eos
channel,
and
so
it's
going
to
make
it
easier
for
our
community
to
you
know,
jump
into
the
whatever
topic.
They
want
to
listen
to
it's
going
to
make
it
easy
for
the
community
to
answer
questions
in
various
chats
and
on
twitter
or
whatever.
C
Oh,
someone
has
a
question
about
this
boom
link
in
that
timestamp
to
a
particular
clip
from
some
thought
leader
in
the
community
that
he
shared
their
their
thoughts
on
on
the
fireside.
So
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there.
Let
you
guys
know
you
know
that's
what
we're
working
on
and
you
can
expect
that
moving
forward.
C
There
was,
there
was
not
a
question.
It
was
more
of
a
statement
he's
he
kind
of
statement
says
that
he
thinks
you
know,
or
he
that
didn't
realize
exactly
how
the
trustee
vm
would
benefit
the
eos
token
holders
in
the
eos
network.
That's
why
I
threw
back.
You
know
directed
him
to
the
fireside
last
last
week,
which
these
topics
were
addressed.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
address
them
again
this
week.
One
more
thing.
E
G
E
Gonna
read
through
a
list
of
ideas
or
reasons
behind
evm
having
a
gas
token.
So
number
one-
and
we
did
talk
about
this
one
last
week-
is
the
shared
protocol
owned
liquidity
pools
that
will
end
up
if
evm
outperforms
eos,
because
it's
a
like
very
small
market
cap
with
a
lot
more
potential.
If
it
outperforms
eos,
a
protocol
owned
liquidity
pool
is
going
to
inherently
lock
up
a
bunch
of
eos.
E
on
against
eos.
It
would
result
in
over
16
out
of
if
you
started
with
500
000
eos
it
would
it
and
then
the
other
token
go
moons.
So
to
speak.
It
would
result
in
over
20
million
eos
being
locked
up
in
the
liquidity
pole.
So
it's
like
a
strategic
bet
on
the
project.
It's
kind
of
like
the
eos
network,
as
you've
said
in
the
video
clip
from
last
week's
fire
slide
chat
that
I
think
we
published
yesterday.
E
The
other
thing
is
resource
costs.
So
if
you
didn't
have
a
gas
token,
let's
say
and-
and
you
did
your
evm
like
how
taylor's
does
it?
For
example,
they
used
tailors
to
pay
for
the
resources
with
the
trustee
vm
you're,
still
paying
eos.
In
the
background
like,
if
you
didn't
have
a
token,
the
only
benefit
to
the
network
is
going
to
be
the
transaction
fees
from
the
power
ups,
so
we're
still
getting
that
with
a
gas
token.
E
That
makes
it
so
much
simpler
for
onboarding
onto
eos.
You
don't
have
to
pay
for
an
eos
account
before
you
even
transfer
eos
from
an
exchange
to
it
to
a
wallet.
For
example,
when
you're
when
you're
transferring
tokens
to
an
evm
wallet,
you
don't
need
to
set
up
an
eos
account.
You
also
don't
need
to
worry
about
staking
resources
or
knowing
what
rex
is
or
or
paying
for
power.
Ups
every
24
hours,
like
all
of
that's
abstracted
on
the
evm,
because
it
uses
a
gas
token,
but
inherently
underneath
it
all
you're,
still
paying
transaction
fees.
E
If
you
didn't
have
a
token
at
all,
the
same
amount
of
resources
on
eos
would
be
used,
so
so
there's
no
difference
there.
Another
thing
is
defy
on
on
the
trustee
vm.
If
it
wants
to
participate
in
the
yield,
plus
incentive
programs
that
are
going
to
be
published
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
the
only
tvo
that
is
is
being
proposed
by
yield
plus
is
for
eos
tvl
and
usdt
the
eos
native
version
of
usdt,
nothing
else
initially.
E
We
want
to
take
eos
out
of
supply
and
out
of
circulation
and
put
it
into
d
fire
lock
it
up
somehow,
additionally,
with
the
trust
evm
having
its
own
token,
it
has
its
own
incentive
token
that
it's
able
to
use
to
incentivize
other
liquidity
programs,
and
this
has
no
cost
to
eos
token
holders.
So
if,
if
the
trustee
vm
team
wants
to
have
their
own
liquidity
program,
saying
launch
defy
on
trust,
evm
will
incentivize
you
with
evm
tokens
that
has
no
cost
to
eos.
E
E
E
So
I
could
see
a
future
where
you
have
pomelo
grants
that
you,
you
pay
and
have
grant
matching
with
an
evm
token,
so
it's
an
additional
incentive
mechanism
to
onboard
new
projects
that
has
no
cost
to
the
eos
token
holders
as
far
as
the
the
ieo
that
a
portion
of
the
supply
will
be
sold
and
it
will
likely
be
sold
on
a
launch
pad
on
another
blockchain.
Even
that
has
a
lot
more
liquidity,
a
lot
more
whales.
All
of
that
is
external
capital
being
drawn
into
the
eos
ecosystem.
E
It
doesn't
have
to
deal
with
the
same
necessarily
reputational
hurdles
that
eos
has
because
trust
evm
can
stand
up
on
its
own.
It's
going
to
introduce
new
capital
into
the
ecosystem.
The
expectation
is
not
eos,
token
holders
being
the
only
people
getting
involved
in
this.
It's
to
attract
people
who
hold
big
bags
of
ethereum
big
bags
of
b
and
b
big
bags
of
matic
big
bags
of
avalanche.
It's
it's
not!
E
We
need
to
like
get
outside
of
our
bubble
here.
Lastly,
and
the
most
important
I
mean
the
other
reasons
are
pretty
important,
but
it's
the
incentive
layer
for
the
rpc
nodes.
So
the
e,
the
the
rpc
nodes
are
the
endpoints
that
the
wallets
interact
with
or
adap
interacts
with,
and
these
nodes
have
to
have
an
incentive
to
operate.
I
don't,
I
don't
know
the
exact
cost
of
them,
but
let's
say
it's
in
in
the
thousands
of
dollars
per
month
or
whatever.
E
Just
I
don't
have
the
numbers
in
front
of
me
and
I
don't
even
know
if
they've
been
calculated
yet,
but
who
bears
the
cost
to
incentivize
these
rpc
nodes?
Do
we
want
to
have
eos
inflation
funding,
the
node
operators
for
the
trust
evm,
or
would
we
rather
them
fund
themselves
through
their
own
governance?
Token,
and
I
just
jumped
ahead
a
governance
token.
So
by
having
its
own
token
it
it's
it's
a.
It
allows
the
evm
to
be
able
to
upgrade
itself
without
requiring
eos
consensus.
E
So,
for
example,
whenever
eos
upgrades
a
system
contract,
it
requires
15
out
of
21
block
producers
to
approve
the
code
and
before
they
approve
the
code,
they
usually
either
audit
audit
audited
themselves
or
use
a
third-party
audit
auditor,
or
they
rely
on
just
someone.
That's
really
like
a
high
reputation
that
they
trust,
there's
no
expectation
that
an
eos
node
operator
is
going
to
fully
understand
the
trust
evm
or
its
code.
E
It's
not
their
job
as
an
eos
bp,
so
to
require
a
15
out
of
21
eos
bp
consensus
for
every
upgrade
on
the
trust.
Evm
would
not
make
sense.
So
that's
why
there's
a
different
consensus
mechanism,
if
anything,
trust
evms
a
proof
of
stake,
blockchain
on
a
dpos
blockchain,
which
is
quite
interesting.
It's
like
a
blockchain
within
a
blockchain,
but
it
has
its
own
consensus
mechanism.
It
has
its
own
governance
and
it
has
its
own
incentive
mechanisms
because,
like
I
said,
the
node
operators
need
to
be
paid.
E
If
they
want
to
onboard
developers,
those
developers
need
to
be
incentivized
with
their
own
grant
programs
and
such
so.
All
of
this
is
driving
value
back
to
the
us
token
holders
it
one
it's
driving
value,
because
you're
bringing
users
onto
eos
via
the
trust,
evm
you're,
locking
up
more
liquidity,
you're,
locking
up
more
eos,
with
both
the
protocol
and
liquidity,
pull
and
any
of
the
d5
projects
that
participate
in
yield
plus
and
yeah.
E
C
Yeah,
no,
that
was
a
great
answer.
Zach.
Let
me
read
you
what
k
wrote
in
the
stream
chat?
He
says
thanks
for
the
explanation,
we'll
definitely
listen
to
last
week's
chat,
not
easy
to
catch
up
each
day
now
he's
listening
to
zach,
so
cool.
Then
he
asked.
Is
it
decided
if
there
will
be
an
airdrop
or
a
token
sale
for
evm
tokens,
then
he
asks
to
whom
does
trust
evm
belong
to?
Who
is
the
owner
of
it?
Is
it
the
enf.
F
So
yeah
sure
so
the
so
we
again
so
thank
you
sebastian
for
linking
the
the
video
entitled
eos
token
holders
are
the
largest
shareholders
of
the
trust
evm
product
I
mean
the
title
itself.
Tells
you
the
answer
that
you're
looking
for.
I
would
really
invite
you
to
go
and
listen
to
that
video,
because
it
will
answer
a
lot
of
your
questions
and
I'll
just
backtrack,
because
there's
a
few
other
questions
that
were
brought
up
by
by
that
person.
No
trusty
vm
is
not
a
public
good.
I
F
The
token
sale
or
sorry
there
will
be
a
token
sale
for
the
evm
token,
and
we
didn't
mention
that
the
tokenomics
are
not
finalized.
Yet
that
is
currently
the
number
one
priority.
So
we
do
have
multiple
models.
There
are
a
few
competing
models
as
to
how
we'll
approach
this,
but
there
will
be
a
token
sale,
the
eos
token
holders
and
without
going
into
too
much
detail,
there
are
obviously
benefits
to
them.
We
mentioned
just
like
zach
just
went
on
a
long
rant
about
the
the
the
benefits.
F
It's
not
that
I
don't
want
to
it's
that
there's
still
multiple
models
that
are
that
are
competing
against
one
another.
So
I
can't
tell
you,
there's
there's
no
answer,
but
the
eos
token
holders
are
the
largest
shareholders
of
this
project.
It
is
not
a
public
good,
it
is
a
for-profit
project
and
zach
just
elaborated
why
that
is
advantages
to
eos
token
holders,
and
I
elaborated
in
that
video
as
well
as
to
how
that
decision
came
about
and
which
models
were
competing
against
another
leading
to
that
decision.
B
F
Why
we
took
that
decision
etc?
Who
to
whom
trust
evm
belongs
to
also
again,
I'm
not
really
sure
what
the
question
is.
The
the
evm
tokens
will
obviously
belong
to
the
evm
token
holders.
The
evm
function
itself
is
a
private.
Let
me
backtrack
again.
You
really
should
go.
Listen
to
that
video
that
people
keep
linking
to.
It
really
answers
all
of
this.
F
The
the
evm
itself,
the
functionality
itself
is
the
public
good
that
the
enf
funded
through
evm
plus
and
that
is
being
worked
on
and
that
was
being
developed
and
is
being
developed
by
matias
and
his
team
within
eos
argentina.
That
is
the
functionality,
the
actual
being
capable
of
doing
evmonios
just
the
function.
F
The
function,
however,
is
worth
very
little
if
nobody
leverages
that
function,
and
so
the
product
side
of
things,
which
is
different,
the
product
side
of
things
is,
is
trust
evm,
and
that
is
that
is
what
I'm
referring
to.
When
I
say
it
is
a
an
entity
and
the
eos
token
holders
through
the
enf
are
the
largest
shareholders
of
that
entity
to
make
the
decisions
and
the
governance
decisions
of
that
entity
itself.
F
F
It
is
a
product
that
is
accessible
to
all,
but
it
is
held
in
the
hands
of
a
private
entity
that
generates
profit
and
is
run
by
an
entity
that
is
looking
to
generate
profit,
but
because
it
was
subsidized
because
some
of
its
shareholders
are
the
public.
Then
part
of
that
profit
goes
back
to
the
shareholders
that
helped
subsidize
it
or
helped
create
it.
F
So
the
direct
benefit
of
the
product
that
is
being
managed
by
a
private
entity
that
is
incentivized
to
do
this,
because
they
also
hold
ownership
in
this
and
they're
running
it
as
a
business.
Attempting
to
actually
create
profit
for
themselves
has
direct
benefits
to
those
who
subsidize
that
product
and
are
also
shareholders,
and
in
this
case,
through
the
enf
and
then
I
so
we
will
go.
F
G
F
F
What
we
are
attempting
to
do
in
in
the
long
run
with
these
initiatives
is
to
offset
all
of
those
costs
so
that
the
benefits
that
you
see
from
the
enf
going
back
in
to
the
token
holders
you
mentioned
pomelo,
for
example.
But
there
are
other
initiatives,
though,
that
those
benefits
continue
existing
without
having
a
cost
to
the
eos
token
holders.
F
Zach
just
went
on
the
long
run
to
explain
what
those
benefits
could
be
and
how
we're
offsetting
those
costs
to
the
eos
token
holders,
ensuring
that
there's
external
capital
that
is
coming
into
the
ecosystem,
to
pay
for
those
initiatives
and
we're
attempting
to
do
this
in
a
scalable
manner,
always
ensuring
that
the
the
the
incentives
are
well
aligned
very
similarly
to
what
what
I
believe.
A
lot
of
us
imagined
when
we
sent
tokens
to
block
one
in
the
ico
and
or
what
we
imagined
eos
vc
would
be.
F
In
our
case
legally,
we
cannot
do
anything
with
that
capital
other
than
to
deploy
it
on
eos
by
mandate
and
then
the
eos
meaning
the
eos
token
holders,
which
are
the
ones
that
are
that
are
benefiting
from
this.
So
I
I
really
really
invite
you
you,
you
don't
need
to
listen
to
the
two
hours
of
fireside
chats.
The
team
has
been
spoon,
feeding,
condensed
clips
that
very
specifically
answer
the
questions
that
are
repeatedly
asked
about
how
the
evm
will
benefit.
F
Token
holders
how
the
enf
is
positioning
itself
to
replicate
this
process
scale
this
process
and
do
this
more
frequently
more
often
in
order
to
come
and
benefit
the
eos
token
holders,
without
necessarily
bearing
a
cost
on
the
eos
token
holders.
The
coalition
is
another
concrete
example
is
not
theoretical
of
external
capital
coming
into
eos
directly
going
to
things
that
will
benefit
eons
token
holders
it.
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
information
out
there
and
you
can't
catch
up
on
everything.
F
This
applies
to
everybody,
which
is
why
we've
been
really
trying
to
condense
that
material
and
those
brands
and
the
and
the
answers
to
the
questions
in
very
digestible
formats,
which
we
also
translate
into
chinese
and
to
korean.
We
sub
it
into
chinese
into
korean.
We
attend
these
fireside
chats.
We
do
twitter
spaces,
we
write
blogs.
F
We
are
spoon
feeding
you
as
much
as
possible
in
every
medium
and
every
language
that
right
now
that
encompasses
the
majority
of
the
the
token
holders,
as
we
see
them
at
the
base,
that's
not
to
say
that
there
are
languages
or
token
holders
that
aren't
in
those
three
languages,
but
at
this
time
those
are
the
three
that
comprise
the
majority
of
them.
As
we
see
them,
and
so
we
are
outputting
as
much
information
as
possible
and
then
going
on
the
marketing
side
of
things.
F
We've
also
talked
about
how
it's
what
you
see
is
the
english
side
of
things
replicate
that
minus
10
is
is
what
we
have
to
do
in
order
to
reach
the
same
ratio
of
people,
but
let's
say
in
china
and
or
in
korea.
The
population
is
larger,
there's
just
way
more
token
holders.
So
that's
all
of
the
marketing
that
you
don't
see
that
we've
continuously
been
been
doing
and
ensuring
that
people
are
are
aware
of
what
it
is
that
we're
doing,
for
example,
for
the
evm,
etc,
etc.
F
The
the
the
function
of
being
able
to
let
people
know
of
what
it
is
we
are
doing.
For
the
token
holders
is
one
that
never
ends,
we
don't
have
a
magic
book,
we
don't
have
a
magic
solution,
and
so
we
attempt
to
do
it
through
various
formats
various
languages
in
many
different
ways.
We
attempt
to
do
it
as
well,
through
crypto
publications,
to
non-crypto
publications,
we're
we're
open
to
suggestions
to
do
things
better.
It
never
ends.
F
We
we
recognize
that
and
we
will
make
mistakes,
but
it
is
important
to
note
that
the
information
is
out
there
at
this
point.
If
you
have
questions
that
are
not
being
answered,
it
is
not
necessarily
because
we
are
not
answering
them.
We
are
we
never
shy
away
from
joining.
These
calls
we
always
participate.
These
calls
any
subject
is,
is
is
up
for
grams,
we
always
answer
and
that
you
cannot
take
away
from
us
and
that
I
I
will
not
stand
for.
F
Actually
this
this
gentleman
in
particular,
has
been
in
in
the
main
eos
channel
in
very
frequently
lately
saying
that
his
questions
are
remaining
unanswered,
that
he
is
being
shut
down
or
he's
being
banned.
I
have
no
idea
what
that's
talking
about
because
clearly
he's
here
and
talking
and
we
keep
putting
information
out
there
at
some
point.
It
is
your
responsibility
to
go
and
and
seek
that
information
that
we
are
spoon
feeding
to
everybody.
C
E
In
the
future,
eventually
we'll
have
enough
links.
We
could
point
to
that's
what's
so
nice
about
these
bite-sized
videos
and
these
rants
is
kind
of
like
they
act
as
faqs,
so
that,
instead
of
having
to
go
co-ape
on
these
calls,
we
could
give
someone
a
link
or
a
time
stamp
to
the
last
time
we
went
ape,
but
it
doesn't
work
100
of
the
time,
because
we
already
see
ourselves
today
repeating
a
lot
of
the
things
we
we
discussed
last
week,
but
it'll.
C
Be
a
continuous
meeting
to
not
answer
the
question
and
just
share
that
link,
but
you
know
it's
still
very
new.
I
understand
why
the
community
still
has
a
lot
of
questions.
I
understand
too,
you
know
not
everyone's
listening
to
every
fireside
chat.
You
know
why
not,
why
not
yeah
so,
but
speaking
of
trust,
evm
information,
I
think,
there's
a
transcript
coming
up
soon
of
the
of
the
twitter
spaces
event
is
that
right,
zach.
E
Yeah
I've
literally,
I
thought
it
was
gonna,
be
so
much
easier.
I'm
getting
to
the
last
couple
faq
questions
I
with
the
transcript
like
the
spoken
word,
doesn't
necessarily
read
very
well
so
just
going
through
that
it'll
be
out
today.
Give
me
I've
been
doing
it
while
on
this
call,
trying
to
wrap
it
up,
but
yeah
it's
it's.
Basically,
a
text
format
like
like
you've,
said
we're
trying
to
spoon
feed
as
much
information
as
possible.
E
So
like
we,
for
example,
the
the
twitter
event
was
attended
by
over
by
around
400
people
live,
but
it
had
like
the
the
chinese
translations
in
between.
So
this
event
ended
up
being
very
long
like
two
hours
long,
which
is
a
lot
of
time
to
ask
of
people
out
of
their
day.
So
what
we
did
was
immediately.
E
After
that
event,
we
immediately
started
chopping
that
audio
up
and
removing
all
of
the
chinese
translators,
so
that
we'd
give
you
just
a
pure
english
version,
so
that
took
like
a
two
hour
event
and
it
condensed
it
down
to
53
minutes
and
then
so
that
that's
one
way
to
spoon
feed
it.
And
then
the
second
way
is
just
like
taking
the
the
human
readable
transcript.
So
it's
not
an
ai
transcript.
It's
a
transcript
written
by
humans
and
then
me
going
through
it
and
kind
of
like
fixing
the
language
a
little
bit.
E
Out
of
it.
Just
think
of
it
like
this
fireside
chat.
So
not
only
do
we
have
the
li
this.
This
could
just
be
a
chat
and
we
could
not
even
record
it,
but
it's
it's
still
engaging
it's
still,
adding
value
to
the
the
40,
some
people
that
are
here,
but
then
we
take
it
a
step
further.
We
live
stream
it
to
facebook.
We
live
stream
it
to
twitter.
We
live
stream
it
to
youtube
and
then,
after
immediately
after
the
event
within
like
two
hours,
we
meticulously
timestamp
every
single
topic
that
came
up
that
way.
E
Also
that
way
in
case
you
don't
even
wanna,
watch
a
five
minute
video.
Maybe
you
could
read
the
two
or
three
paragraphs
of
text
to
digest
it
like
that's.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
we're
trying
to
give
you
guys
as
much
information
as
you
can
and
we're
held
to
such
a
high
standard
that
I
just
don't
see
in
other
ecosystems,
so
I'm
happy
to
do
it
because
I
I
love
like
communicating
with
you
guys
like
this
is
my
community.
A
Even
zach,
if
I
can
just
jump
in
here
for
a
second,
I
think
you
guys
are
doing
a
great
job
with
communication.
I
don't
think
that
you
guys
deserve
any
fault
for
confusion.
The
real
reason
why
communication
has
been
an
issue
is
because
there's
not
enough
people
in
the
community
explaining
what's
going
on
the
people
who
are
following
what's
going
on
to
the
rest
of
the
community,
that's
what
happens
in
ethereum,
you
don't
have
vitalik
spoon,
feeding
everyone
every
little
bit
of
piece
of
information,
it's
the
community
stepping
up
and
doing
the
job.
A
A
Can
you
explain
why
the
trustee
vm
is
going
to
be
launching
in
an
ied
ideal,
whatever
it's
called
type
of
process,
rather
than
an
airdrop
to
eos
token
holders?
That
seems
to
be
the
main
question
that
I've
been
getting.
I've
been
seeing
the
chat.
I've
been
seeing
telegram
and
I
think
if
we
can
just
get
one
last
final
answer
on
that
and
then
put
it
to
rest.
It
would
be
great.
F
But
yeah,
but
I'm
serious,
so
we
we
debated
on
that
one
for
quite
some
time.
The
airdrop
wasn't
as
big
of
a
debate,
but
the
type
of
token
was
it
was
quite
the
debate
whether
or
not
it'd
be
eos
token
itself,
and-
and
we
went
over
that
so
again,
I
invite
you
to
go
back
to
the
the
fireside
last
week.
The
clip
up
top
is
like
seven
minutes,
but
for
airdrop.
Airdrops,
historically
are
not
very
successful
unless
the
underlying
asset
that
I
guess
supers
or
the
superseding
asset
is
quite
successful.
F
In
our
case,
one
of
the
largest
issues
with
eos
is
there's
no
capital.
We
need
more
people,
we
need
external
capital
to
come
into
the
ecosystem.
We've
been
very
public
about
this,
where
what's
missing
eos
a
big
part
of
it
is
people
making
money.
People
have
not
been
making
money,
you
need
people
to
make
money
in
order
for
them
an
ecosystem
to
start
thriving,
because
when
people
make
money,
they
start
deploying
that
capital
and
it
starts
forming
a
cycle
of
of
capital
generation
eos
at
this
stage.
F
If,
if,
if
the
evm
token
or
any
token
right
now
were
deployed
a
hundred
percent
as
an
airdrop,
it
would
be
a
failure.
The
token
holders
would
take
that
token
and
immediately
sell
it
off
and
you
would
not
have
any
external
capital
being
brought
in.
I
did
mention
and
I'll
mention
it
again,
that
there
will
be
advantages
in
the
token
sale
for
eos
token
holders
without
going
into
detail,
because
we're
still
ironing
out
the
detail,
I'm
not
saying
that
there
won't
be
any
airdrop.
F
I'm
saying
that
the
model
of
100
airdrop
two
token
holders
would
be
a
massive
failure.
There
would
be
no
incentivization
for
anybody
to
continue
developing
the
product.
There
would
be
no
money
being
made
by
those
who
are
actually
putting
in
the
work.
There
would
be
no
long-term
effect
as
well
for
the
eos
token
holders
other
than
they
would
get
the
token.
They
would
immediately
sell
it
off
it's
just
it's
bad
all
around
it's
a
flawed
model.
E
One
more
thing
is
like:
would
you
guys
like
to
see
people
swapping
their
bnb
for
eos
or
swapping
their
ethereum
for
eos?
Like
that's,
essentially
what
will
happen
here?
Because
what
do
you
expect
the
majority
of
the
trusty
vm's
team's
treasury
to
be
like?
Do
you
think
that
they're
going
to
hold
all
of
these
other
assets?
Maybe
some?
E
Also
the
the
team
itself,
if
we
want
to
trust
evm
to
have
a
10-year
runway
if
it
was
100,
airdrop
then
like,
where
are
they
getting
their
capital?
This
just
came
up
last
night
on
the
evm
call
we're
lending
developers
to
the
evm
team
and
eve
was
very,
very
strict.
He
said
mateus
and
the
rest
of
the
team,
like
you
guys,
could
use
reg.
You
guys
could
use
bucky,
but
it's
temporary
as
soon
as
you
guys
launch.
E
You
guys
have
to
have
your
your
own,
like
team
of
developers,
ready
to
go
and
on
standby,
ideally
starting
before
that,
because
as
soon
as
you
guys
go
through
this
io
and
launch
your
your
project,
you
guys
are
on
your
own
in
a
lot
of
ways.
As
far
as
like
the
developers
that
we're
lending
to
to
kind
of
make
this
happen,
so
they're
going
to
have
their
own
treasury
their
own
runway,
and
they
wouldn't
have
that
if
we
just
did
like
the
100
or
they
we.
E
If
there
was
a
hundred
percent
airdrop
and
that's
like
the
entire
supply,
that
only
worked
the
only
project
that
has
ever
done.
That
was
ever
a
pedia
and
the
only
reason
that
project
was
successful
was
because
they
had
30
million
dollars.
That
esvc
gave
them
whenever
they
were
trying
to
kind
of
give
the
appearance
that
this
was
going
to
be
a
common
thing
that
they
would
do
after
after
the
mainland
launched.
And
it
never
did.
E
E
100
of
their
supply,
then
it's
just
not
going
to
happen,
and
even
with
everpedia,
they
had
a
team
supply
and
a
like
partnership
supply,
but
they
did
airdrop
a
good
portion
of
their
supply
to
the
us
token
holders,
but
that
was
only
possible
because
they
had
external
capital
injection
in
the
tune
of
30
million
dollars,
and
that
also
happens
to
be
one
of
the
only
teams
that
has
like
a
binance
listing,
because
it's
just
so
expensive
to
get
these
exchange
listings.
Do
we
want
the
evm
token
to
be
listed
on
binance?
E
Do
we
want
it
to
have
a
chance
at
getting
listed
on
coinbase
like
if
you
want
to
do
that,
that
costs
money
it's
over
a
million
dollars
to
get
listed
on
some
of
these
exchanges?
Do
we
want
that
to
come
out?
Do
you
want
this
team
to
have
to
sell
down
their
own
token,
to
get
a
million
dollars
just
to
get
listed
on
finance?
E
Or
would
you
rather
them
have
a
nice
treasury
that
they
got
from
bnb
holders
that
they
got
from
ethereum
holders
that
they
got
from
avalanche
holders
or
or
do
we
want
them
to
just
only
just
be
a
bunch
of
people,
the
50
people
on
this
call
it's
all
about
external
capital.
It's
all
about
growing
this
ecosystem
and
giving
upside
to
the
to
the
new
people
coming
in
and
then
they'll
stick
around
dexaran.
I
don't
know
he
made
an
inch,
a
good
tweet
recently
because
he
was
like
almost
bitching
like
saying.
E
Why
is
everyone
so
excited
about
the
evm
like
I
I
he
and
this
is
a
developer-
who's
very
experienced
in
solidity
and
very
experienced
on
native
eosio
and
he's
like.
Why
is
everyone
making
such
a
big
deal
out
of
out
of
evm
because
it's
crap
compared
to
native
eos?
Yes,
we
agree
like
I
could
agree
with
that.
Like
technol
technology,
wise
eosio
as
it
stands,
is
a
better
technology,
but
it
doesn't
have
the
libraries
around
it.
E
It
definitely
doesn't
have
the
hundreds
of
like
thousand
plus
developers
that
that
and
the
libraries
and
sdks
that
ethereum
has
ethereum
has
many
advantages
right
now,
but
it's
kind
of
opening
the
door.
You
get,
you
open
the
door
with
the
trust
evm
and
then
it
introduces
a
whole
new
audience
to
eos
and
that's
the
idea
it's
the
introduction.
A
So
that's
a
great
way
of
putting
it
zach
and
eve.
I
think
that
just
to
clarify
for
people
like
kay
and
anyone
else,
who's
confused
still
the
main
main
reason
it's
its
own
token,
and
not
in
100
airdrop
to
the
eos
community
is
if
it
was
a
hundred
percent
air
drop
to
the
us
community,
it
would
be
a
failure.
If
there's
a
partial
air
drop
to
the
us
community,
it
may
or
may
not
be
successful,
but
what
we
do
know
is
by
launching
on
elsewhere,
you
can
get
the
benefit
of
everyone's
liquidity,
not
just
eos.
A
E
And
the
other,
the
other
thing
is,
I
keep
saying
the
protocol
owned.
Liquidity
should
not
be
understated,
so
it's
the
same
thing
as
an
airdrop,
except
instead
of
everyone
getting
evm
tokens.
The
network
itself
has
a
stake
in
the
evm
tokens,
because
in
a
in
a
liquidity
pool
you
have
half
of
it
as
eos
and
half
it
is
evm.
E
So
you're
p,
basically,
instead
of
giving
a
new
token
to
everyone,
it's
like
the
protocol
itself
is
buying
back
eos.
Think
of
it
like
that,
instead
of
thinking
about.
Why
am
I
not
getting
an
air
drop?
Think
about
like
you're,
getting
a
eos
buyback
out
of
it
that
that's
what
it's
essentially
going
to
do.
If
it's
successful.
E
E
E
C
Yeah
good
stuff,
there's
been
a
bunch
more
questions
in
the
chat.
That
kind
of
all
you
know
go
around
the
same
topic.
I
think
you
guys
addressed
them
well
again,
we'll
recommend
people
go
watch
last
side
with
some
timestamps
in
there
to
relevant
topics
that
have
been
brought
up
today,
we'll
be
putting
up
the
time
stamps.
C
You
know,
probably
by
tonight,
for
this
video
for
those
of
you
who
might
want
to
re-listen
to
some
sections
or
want
to
refer
to
these
comments
to
other
people
in
the
community
when
they
ask
these
very
popular
questions,
so
yeah,
so
I
think
still
a
lot
of
questions
coming
in.
I
don't
know
zach
and
eve
if
you
guys
want
to
tackle
them,
or,
I
think,
like
I
said,
I
think,
we're
kind
of
going
around
in
circles
at
this
point.
You
guys
well.
F
I
guess
because
it's
aaron
so
he
says
which,
with
offsets
the
downside
to
doing
evm
but
doesn't
highlight
the
upside
beyond
resource
usages
in
lactogen.
No,
because
the
eos
token
holders
will
be
shareholders
of
the
evm
which,
which
means
also
owning
tokens,
evm
tokens,
those
evm
tokens
if,
if
sold,
will
be
sold
and
that
revenue
has
to
be
deployed
on
eos.
B
F
Capital
going
into,
for
example,
the
the
capital
that's
going
right
now
into
the
blue
papers
and
then
the
subsequent
developing
of
the
code.
That
bears
a
cost
on
the
ecosystem,
but
that
function
is
useful
if
that
function
is
now
paid,
but
is
no
longer
bearing
a
cost.
That
is
a
direct
benefit
to
the
eos
token
holder.
F
A
A
F
Yeah,
it
is
even
more
so
than
that,
because
not
only
are
are,
is
there
going
to
be
a
pool
of
tokens
that
is
then,
let's
say
owned
by
evm
labs
and
evm
labs
will
will
will
have
direct
benefit
or
or
part
of
those
will
be.
The
enf
is
also
the
governance,
so
I
also
talked
about
the
future
of
the
project
itself,
so
in
the
non-financial
but
ownership
of
the
project
itself.
The
eos
token
also
are
also
the
largest
shareholder
of
the
actual
legal
entities.
F
So
it
is
literally
the
eos
token.
Holders
are
the
largest
shareholders
of
trust
evm,
that
is
the
accurate
warding
and
that
legal
entity
then
determines
where
those
tokens
go
and
which
tokens
which
buckets
of
tokens
and
what
is
the
governance
or
what
is
the
inflation
of
that
chain
and
how
that
chain
works,
etc.
They
are
literally
the
largest
shareholders.
F
B
And
there's
an
uncertainty
there
about
if
it
will
provide
value
to
an
individual
token
holder,
whereas
if
there
was
an
airdrop
of
some
form,
people
are
getting
direct
value
individually
that
they
can
apply.
However,
they
see
fit,
which
I
think
is
why
people
are
asking
about
this.
They
want
a
personal
upside
as
opposed
to
a
collective
upside.
B
G
G
Are
you
know
that
where
are
the
stakeholders
largest
stakeholders
for
evm,
but
how
that
breaks
down?
I
think
aaron
said
it
right
with.
You
know
how
the
collective
good
versus
the
personal
good
so
basically
like
a
rundown,
what
it
would
a
day
in
the
la
you
know
a
day
in
the
month
or
a
month
in
the
life
of
a
of
a
token
holder
and
how
it
would
benefit
them.
I
understand
how
it
benefits
the
community
and
how
it
benefits
eos,
because
the
money
is
obligated
to
be
spent
on
eos
so
yeah.
G
B
I
don't
think
it
should
come
as
a
surprise
from
this
community
that
this
is
the
opinion
of
many
people,
because
this
is
how
block
producer
reports
have
gone
as
well.
It
was
the
we've
moved
from
inflation
being
used
to
create
public
good
to
inflation,
going
back
to
the
token
holders,
because
that's
what
the
token
holders
wanted.
So
we
have
this
base
of
users
that
want
personal
benefit
to
the
use
of
these
things.
I'm
I'm
not
putting
a
value
call
on
any
of
this,
but
for
people
to
be
asking
like,
where
is
the
personal
reward
in?
F
B
B
F
F
Of
any
tokens,
so
so
again,
what
we
mentioned
was
that
one
the
tokenomics
aren't
done,
and
there
are
two
models
more
than
two
but
largely
two
models
pulling
one
against
another,
so
they're
not
finalized.
So
people
wanna
know
the
answers,
and
I
I
very
directly
said
that
I
can't
give
them
because
they
don't
exist
yet.
But
what
I
did
say
was
that
it
would
not
be
a
hundred
percent
100
airdrop
to
token
holders.
F
We've
mentioned
it
on
multiple
occasions:
the
tokenomics
are
not
finalized.
There
are
multiple
models,
two
primarily
pushing
and
pulling
against
one
another.
The
the
final
tokenomics
are
not
complete.
I
did
also
mention
on
multiple
occasions
that
the
eos
token
holders
and
a
particular
subset,
perhaps
of
those,
will
even
see
greater
benefits
to
this.
I
F
What
you're,
you're,
not
really
saying,
but
others
are
more
saying,
is
they
would
like
free
money
from
this?
They
just
want
tokens
just
give
me
money.
It
is
really
what
we're
circling
around
just
give
me
money,
and
then
I
can,
you
know,
decide
to
do
what
what
I
want
with
with
that
that
money
just
give
me
money,
just
basically
create
value
for
me,
and
I
understand.
A
G
F
Part
of
this
is
the
the
token
holders
that
have
subsidized
that,
but
that
applies
to
everything
that
the
enf
has
been
doing,
not
just
the
enf,
not
just
the
evm,
and
if
we
look
at-
and
we
mentioned
this
last
week
as
well-
if
we
look
at
the
total
cost
of
the
evm,
so
far,
it's
been
less
than
a
million
dollars.
It's
not
even
close
the
potential
upside
to
the
token
holders,
and
now
I'm
not
talking
about
just
giving
you
free
money.
F
F
And
so
having
to
make
that
decision
again
as
to
whether
or
not
we
should
invest
funds,
I
would
do
again
the
design
and
the
model
of
how
to
do
so,
and
how
should
we
architect
it
in
an
attempt
to
create
the
largest
value
return
for
eos
token
holders?
This
is
where
we
we
make
debate,
some
might
say
just
100
percent
air
drop
and,
and
we've
explained
why
I
do
not
believe-
and
I'm
not
alone
in
this.
We
have
multiple,
multiple
people
working
on
this.
F
Why
would
you
not
believe
that
this
was
the
most
effective
mechanism
or
architecture
around
how
to
deliver
value
back
to
the
token
holders
that
subsidize
part
of
this
project,
because
the
ongoing
maintenance
and
development
of
this
project
will
not
be
subsidized
by
the
token
holders?
So
that's
that's
in
a
big
part
why
the
airdrop
at
100
is
not
a
viable
option
or
why
that's
not
chosen.
F
There
are
other
architectures
as
to
how
we
could
have
designed
this,
and
we
talked
about
the
token
itself.
Why
did
we
choose,
for
example,
an
erc20
token
versus
an
eos
token,
so
we've
gone
over
the
different
on
on
multiple
occasions,
choices
that
we
were
left
with
in
terms
of
design
decisions
or
architectural
decisions,
and
why
we
made
those
decisions
that
may
or
may
not
appeal
to
everybody.
F
Obviously
it
can't
that
there
will
always
be
people
that
are
not
happy
with
the
design
decisions
that
we
are
making
at
this
stage.
I
still
believe
that
the
design
decisions
that
we
have
made
and
continue
making
with
the
information
that
we
have
it,
are
creating
or
have
the
potential
to
create
the
best
alignment
of
incentives,
learning
from
past
mistakes
that
we've
seen
on
eos
with
failed
attempts
directly
on
the
offs,
as
well
as
what
we've
learned
from
other
ecosystems.
G
J
F
When
they
presented
proposals,
they
went
and
looked
out.
We
went
and
looked
out
at
other
ecosystems
how
they
designed
theirs,
how
they
implemented
theirs.
What
was
the
architecture
of
that,
and
we
tried
to
create
a
model
that
we
believe
aligns
the
incentives
better
than
other
potential
contenders
that
that
we
had
that
left
to
be,
or
that
remains
to
be
seen
whether
or
not
that
will
be
successful.
It
is
entirely
possible
that
this
does
not
work
out.
F
B
See-
and
I
think,
just
clarity
and
upfront-
I
am
trying
to
figure
out
where
this
is
coming
from
this
feeling
and
the
more
we
talk
about
this,
the
more.
I
think
that,
with
the
statement
that
there
will
be
a
token
sale
of
this
and
no
statement
of
anything
for
eos
token
holders,
besides
some
like
passive
benefits,
which
are
arguably
great
people,
feel
left
out
and
they
feel
like
to
participate
in
this
they're
being
forced
to
make
a
purchase.
B
F
J
F
F
In
charge
currently
as
the
enf,
we
are
by
de
facto,
the
project
manager
for
this
thing
called
eos
and
we've
been
left
with
a
an
asset
in
distress
with
a
community
in
distress
with
non-existent
roadmap,
with
a
brand
that
sucks
ass
and
that
has
negative
connotation
all
over
it.
And
we
are
tempting
to
do
something
with
that
and
what
you've
seen-
and
this
is
where
perhaps
their
soul
is
over
the
seven
months.
E
If
you
do
you're
damned,
if
you
don't
like,
you,
stay
quiet
and
everyone's
like
why
the
hell
you
guys
quiet
like
what's
going
on,
but
then
you
try
to
like,
say
what
what
what's
what's
what's
solid
like
what's
concrete
and
then
it's
like
well
tell
us
more
now,
and
it's
like
well
there's
not
more,
we
could.
We
could
have
waited
to
tell
you
anything
but
ever
like
I,
I
feel
like
we've
done
so
much
over
the
last.
E
However,
many
months
and
then
the
years
prior
to
that
that,
like
there
should
be
a
little
bit
of
a
benefit
of
that
like
I
will
way
more
egos
than
what
I'm
comfortable
admitting
like,
I
want
what's
best
for
eos
and
so
does
everyone
else
and
just
kind
of
I
don't
know
yeah
and
that
I
I
understand
it,
though,
at
the
same
time
like
I've
been
here
with
all
of
you
guys,
I've
been
in
the
trenches.
I
get.
I
understand
the
frustration
but
and
that's
okay.
E
I
just
hope
everyone
else
kind
of
understands
the
frustration
on
the
other
side
too,
of
answering
these
same
questions
and
sometimes
getting
fired
up
and
heated
up
and
enthusiastic,
because
I
I
I
it's
hard
on
both
sides.
I
I
get
it.
I
really
do,
and
I
guess
the
best
thing
I
could
say
is
just
like
as
soon
as
all
of
the
decisions
are
made,
you
guys
on
this
call
are
going
to
be
the
very
first
ones
to
know
about
it.
B
And
on
that
point
you
just
made
there
are
going
to
be
people
in
this
community
still
for
very
good
reason.
That
will
not
give
benefit
of
the
doubt
like.
That
is
not
something
they
are
willing
to
do
after
the
past
couple
years.
So
that's
fun
yeah.
We
just
have
to
expect
it
and
communicate
and
move
forward.
B
F
The
question
of
whether
or
not
the
enf
at
this
point
execute
on
executes
on
what
it
says
it
will
do
at
this
point.
It
should
not
be
a
question
whether
or
not
you
agree
with
it
completely
acceptable,
whether
or
not
they
will
follow
through
on
it
and
and
whether
or
not
what
they're
saying
is
aspirational
language.
At
this
point
that.
B
E
And
just
like,
with
what
we've
been
doing
with
on
the
eos
side
of
things
with
like
palmello
and
the
direct
grant
framework
like
there's
going
to
be
more
opportunities
for
people
in
the
eos
ecosystem
to
make
money,
because
there's
going
to
be
grant
programs
on
the
evm
side.
Also,
there's
I
I
can
fully
imagine
like
there
will
be
a
way
to
have
evm
grants
on
pomelo.
E
C
All
right:
well,
I
think
this
was
a
good
discussion
on
trustdbm
and
evie
manias.
I'm
sure
it's
not
going
to
be
the
last
discussion
of
of
this
pick
on
the
fire
side,
but
I
think
I
think
we've
gone
around
topic
in
fair
in
a
fair
amount
of
detail
today,
so
we're
gonna
wrap
it
up
here.
If
anyone
has
any
other
topics
they
wanted
to
address,
I'm
gonna
give
you
guys
30-60
seconds
to
bring
them
up
and
then,
if
not
we're,
gonna
wrap
it
up
here.
F
Okay,
I'll
because
it's
really
not
clear,
apparently
as
a
non-for-profit
any
asset
again,
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
blockchain
any
asset
that
is
under
our
management
counts
as
revenue
that
revenue
needs
to
be
offset,
we
cannot
hold
revenue,
we
cannot
hold
assets,
those
assets
count
as
revenue.
We
cannot
generate
profit
that
way
that
that
means
that
that
revenue
has
to
be
offset
with
an
expense,
and
so
no
we
cannot
hold,
for
example,
164
000
bitcoin,
because
that
would
be
100
460,
000
bitcoin
worth
of
their
revenue.
F
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
blockchain.
This
is
why
we
set
it
up
in
a
way
to
ensure
that
any
monies
that
flow
through
the
enf
have
to
be
deployed
back
on.
Eos
dnf
cannot
hold
monies,
it
cannot
just
hold
on
to
assets,
it
has
to
deploy
it.
Otherwise
it
generates
a
profit.
It
would
lose
its
non-for-profit
designation
status.
L
L
There
say
that
out
loud,
because
I
hear
the
I
hear
the
burnout
in
your
voices,
and
so
but
you
know
what
there's
seven
days
in
a
week
there's
I
heard
one
guy
came
down
with
some
stone
tablets
that
said,
hey
take
one
out
of
seven
days.
Rest
relax,
do
no
work
and
praise
god.
That
was
one.
You
know
that
may
have
been
divine
and
so,
but
I'm
saying
it
as
a
human
being
take
a
breather.
L
This
is
a
this
is
a
globally
valuable
and
I
consider
it
infinite
project.
That's
worth
pursuing.
You
know
it's
kind
of
funny.
It's
like,
I
thought
we
didn't
like
aetherium,
but
you
know
I'm
just
I.
I
think
that
that
needs
to
be
said
also,
is
that
you
know
I
I'm
not
in
a
position
with
my
eos
toe
because
to
say
hey,
how
can
I
profit
off
this?
L
I'm
just
a
beginner
who's,
trying
to
catch
up
as
quickly
as
I
can
catch
on
to
to
the
process
of
moving
forward
in
a
way
that's
valuable
and-
and
so-
and
I
think
we're
doing
that-
and
this
is
this.
Fireside
chat
is
a
beautiful
example
of
just
that
and
so
okay.
So
that
was
my
encouragement.
I
thought
I
was
going
to
start
off
with
the
bad
news
and
then
move
to
the
good
news.
The
bad
news
is:
there's
seven
and
a
half
billion
human
beings
walking
on
this
planet.
L
That's
what
we'll
do
also,
and
so
you
know
I
should
leave
it
there,
but
I'm
jay
taylor.
So
I
won't
you
know
my
my
inquiry
is
not
hey.
How
do
I
make
money
off
my
tokens?
My
inquiry
is
that
in
the
long
term
view
is
the
trust
evm
going
to
be
designed
in
a
way
that
it
actually
considers
that
ethereum
may
not
be
sustainable
over
the
long
term?
You
know
that
we
may
have
a
better
chain
already
to
begin
with,
and
so
right
now
we're
focusing
on
hey.
L
Let's
do
the
evm,
it's
like
okay.
Let's
do
that
and
there's
definitely
some
transaction
fees
here,
and
we
could
you
know,
I'm
not
saying
it's
just
we
can
make
a
quick
profit
off
it,
but
maybe
that's
true
also,
but
and
not
even
that
profit's,
not
even
the
motive.
It's
like.
How
do
we
move
if
we
want
to
move
our
chain
forward,
and
even
you
know,
re
redesign
or
to
redevelop
it
or
make
adjustments
or
improvements
is,
is
do
we
have
and
here's
what
I'm
suggesting
is.
L
There's
a
paradox
here
and
and
that's
why
I'm
all
in
on
this?
I
think
the
trust
dvm
is
a
great
idea,
because,
what's
going
to
happen,
is
it's
like
playing
tennis
you're
going
to
hit
the
ball
on
the
other
side
of
the
net,
pretty
soon
they're
going
to
hit
it
back
to
you
and
we're
going
to
win
the
match
in
the
game
set
match
done.
L
C
All
right,
thanks
for
that
nice
comment,
jay,
and
you
know,
thanks
for
being
an
active
part
of
our
community
here,
so
yeah
we're
gonna,
leave
it
off
on
that
mostly
positive
note,
a
pretty
much
positive
note
and
yeah,
so
I'm
gonna
thank
everyone
for
joining
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fireside
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