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Description
Ultra is one of the most exciting projects currently building on EOSIO. David Hanson (CEO) and Rami James (Product Manager) join Everything EOS to discuss all of the latest news and happenings with Zack Gall and guest co-host Yves La Rose.
Ultra is creating an entertainment platform that enables gamers to play, discover, buy, trade, earn, stream, compete, and socialize with zero friction. They've also announced recent partnerships with big tech players such as Atari, AMD, and Ubisoft with more planned for the future.
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A
Eos
podcast,
but
today
we
are
not
talking
to
an
eos
project.
We
are
talking
to
one
of
the
best
eos
io
projects.
You
guys
are
only
the
second
non-eos
project
ever
be
on
the
show,
william
quigley,
the
ceo
of
wax
was
the
first,
so
you
guys
are
in
in
good
company
here,
I'm
here
with
david
hansen,
the
co-founder
and
co-ceo
of
ultra
romney
james,
who
is
this
is
your
second
time
on
the
show?
I
believe
he
is
the
product
owner
for
the
blockchain
thing
department.
A
I
guess
at
ultra
and
of
course
you
guys
all
know
eve
la
rose
number
one
block
producer
on
eos
ceo's
nation.
About
what,
a
month
ago,
less
than
a
month
ago,
you're
announced
as
the
newest
technical
block
producer
on
the
ultra
blockchain.
That
is
yet
to
launch.
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
people
want
to
know
is,
I
guess:
when
could
we
expect
to
be
able
to
use
this
thing?
You
guys
I've
been
excited
for
it
for
over
a
year
now
I
know,
there's
a
test
net.
A
That's
set
to
launch
later
this
month.
Can
you
tell
us,
I
guess?
Maybe
we
should
backtrack,
not
everyone
might
know
about
ultra.
Why
don't
we
do
a
summary,
a
tl,
dr
of
what
ultra
is,
what
makes
it
different
than
steam
and
then
I'll
get
into
some
of
the
questions
about
when,
when,
when
launched,
sure.
B
Okay,
so
basically
ultra
is
like
a
steam,
but
we
didn't
want
to
do
a
steam
copy,
a
steam
plus
plus,
you
know
steam
with
blockchain
and
and
we
wanted
to
reinvent
what
game
distribution
is
all
about,
and
so
we
created
ultra,
which
is
actually
a
entertainment
platform
and
the
difference
with
steam
is
that
within
ultra,
you
will
find
not
just
a
game
distribution
platform,
but
it's
an
ecosystem
of
applications
and
services.
So
ultra
games
is
one
service
within
ultra
and
it's
our
game
distribution
service.
B
But
you
also
see
you
know,
live
streaming
platforms
like
teta.
We
announced
a
partnership,
they
will
be
part
of
ultra.
You
will
see
like
tournament
platforms,
item
trading
platform,
you
know
crowdfunding
for
games,
music
movies
and
so
on,
and
so
all
of
this
within
a
single
roof
and
all
of
this
with
a
single
login.
So
you
register
one
time
on
ultra.
You
get
access
automatically
to
all
of
the
services
and
then,
of
course,
this
is
all
all
of
these
services
then
get
access
to
our
underlying
blockchain
infrastructure.
B
B
Dlcs
are
nfts
as
well,
but
then
you
can
also
start
getting
these
items,
virtual
items
and
games
in
other
services
like
teta,
you
will
watch
a
live
stream,
maybe
sponsored
by
ubisoft,
and
then
you
know,
nfts
are
going
to
be
airdropped
to
the
people
that
are
watching
the
live
stream,
just
as
much
as
the
winner
of
a
tournament
can
win
exclusive,
nfts
and
and
so
on.
So
basically
in
a
nutshell,
it's
an
entertainment
platform
powered
by
our
blockchain
technology.
A
A
Is
right
up
there?
If
you
look
at
the
background
of
some
of
the
ogs
within
crypto,
they
came
with
sorry
for
they
they
came
with
gaming
backgrounds
like
like
brock
and
people
like
that
they
all
came
from
like
mining
world
of
warcraft
gold
and
that's
how
they
got
the
crypto,
because
they
saw
the
value
of
these
digital
assets.
When
you
play
a
video
game
now,
almost
every
game
has
a
coin
in
it.
It's
just
a
different
well.
C
You're
used
to
it
right
as
a
gamer,
it's
a
natural
transition
to
be
able
to
use
your
in
in-game
currency
as
an
actual
asset.
The
the
mind
jump
is
very,
very
small
for
gamers
right
and
a
lot
of
the
people
at
ultra
came
from
gaming
backgrounds
right.
So,
like
big
shout
out
like
there's
in
your
team,
there's
some
some
pretty
superstars
in
there
that
led
to
like
some
of
these
partnerships.
Can
you
talk
about
a
couple
of
the
people
on
your
team
that
have
some
significant
gaming
backgrounds
or
just
backgrounds
in
the
industry
in
general?.
B
Yeah
so
myself
and
nicholas
we've
been
in
a
gaming
industry
now
for
10
plus
years,
something
like
that
we
made
mobile
games.
Then
we
made
aaa
games
with
the
studio
that
got
acquired
by
kingsoft,
and
then
we
also
made
a
video
game
console
when
we
lived
in
china,
and
so
we've
been
in
the
space
for
quite
some
time.
We've
worked
with
great
companies,
for
example,
when
we
made
the
console
in
china.
It
was,
of
course
with
amd
that
created
the
chip
for
us.
B
We
made
a
custom
chip,
that's
also
where
our
relationship
with
amd
you
know
came
from
that's
why
we
have
so
much
support
from
them,
but
then
we
also
have
somebody
like
edward
molem,
who
used
to
be
in
charge
of
game
initiatives
and
apple,
and
then
later
he
used
to
be
in
charge
of
game
initiatives
at
google.
So
great
background
knows
literally
everybody
from
the
game
industry.
B
This
is
a
very
important
aspect
in
the
game
industry
because
everything
is
about
content
and
these
companies
typically
don't
give
content
to.
You,
know
anybody,
and
so
when
we
start
the
conversation
with
them,
there's
this
like
long
existing
com.
You
know
relationship
with
them
that
allow
us
to
immediately
start.
You
know
with
the
right
foot
and
then
more
generally
speaking
on
the
I.t
industry,
our
cto
mike
dunn,
he
used
to
be
the
cto
of
dell,
which
you
know
obviously
is
a
giant
company,
tiny.
B
Of
you
know,
but
you
know
small
stuff
and
then
and
then
he
was
there
at
hertz.
He
was
also
founder
and
advisor
at
the
you
know
a
couple
of
really
interesting
funds.
So
with
him
we
got
a
lot
of
experience
in
the
development
how
to
structure
a
company
to
grow
fast.
How
to
deal
with
really
large
teams
which
we
expect
to
to
have
in
the
future,
is
why
we
we
choose
to
work
with
him
and
and
then
we
got
his
knowledge
in
the
financing
aspect.
B
A
D
So
nathan
and
I
joined
ultra
in
january,
we
actually
reached
out
to
david.
I
think
it
was
in
november
of
2019..
We
had
heard
some
noise
about
ultra
I
looked
into
it.
It
seemed
like
a
very
interesting
project.
It
was
like
right
up
our
alley.
It
was
blockchain,
it
was
gaming.
It
was
like
all
the
stuff
that
we
were
like
deeply
interested
in
already.
D
I
think,
actually,
the
last
time
that
I
came
onto
the
show.
We
talked
about
the
marketplace
that
nathan
and
I
had
been
building
at
the
time
that
was
focused
on
nfts
for
the
eos
community
and
when
we
heard
about
ultra,
I
reached
out
to
david
about
being
one
of
the
first
bps
and
he
said
well,
if
you
guys
don't
want
to
be
a
bp,
maybe
you
want
to
come
and
build
some
cool
with
us,
and
I
talked
to
nathan
and
I
said,
listen.
This
is
an
amazing
opportunity.
D
D
A
D
A
product
owner
a
product
owner
is
a
specific
version.
I
guess
of
like
a
product
manager
within
the
scrum
agile
mindset.
The
way,
the
way
that
they
work
within
the
company
is
using
scrum
and
agile
and
the
product
owner
kind
of
has
the
vision
of
what
that
particular
part
of
the
project
is
supposed
to
be
and
there's
a
lot
of
negotiating.
There's
a
lot
of
discussion.
There's
a
lot
of
communication
internally
and
externally,
making
sure
that
things
kind
of
like
run
the
way
that
they're
supposed
to
run
and.
D
A
B
We
we
just
added
a
couple
of
new
people
and
I
think
a
couple
of
additional
will
come,
but
we
reached
we
reached
a
good
size
and,
more
importantly,
we
reached
the
stage
where
we're
in
cruising
speed,
because
you
know
when
you
build
up
a
team.
First,
it's
difficult
to
find
the
right
talent,
but
then
you
also
need
to
create
a
like
a
workflow
that
fits
everybody's
working
style.
You
need
to
create
automations.
B
A
B
Yeah,
which
was
which
is
actually
a
really
good
thing,
because
you
know
when
covid
happened,
a
lot
of
companies
were
like
scrambling
to
okay.
How
are
we
going
to
organize
and
so
on?
And
in
our
case
it
was
literally
well
guys
just
for
those
who
want
a
second
screen
pick
one
up
at
the
office,
and
that
was
it.
You
know,
because
we
we
already
distributed
so
the
workflow
didn't
change.
There's
just
uh-oh.
C
D
Everything
is
like
super
well
organized,
and
that
makes
when
everybody's
working
from
home
it
much
easier
because
everything
is
already
clear,
like
we
didn't
have
to
scramble
to
kind
of
like
build
up
a
new
structure
for
the
company
like
it
was
already
all
in
place
and
honestly
we
didn't
feel
it
like
covett
came,
it
was.
It
was
all
fine
for
us.
I
know
that
that
wasn't
true
for
a
lot
of
companies,
so
we
were
particularly
lucky
in
that
case.
A
Rami
finished
off
that
answer,
so
we're
good
there.
I
we're
talking
about
dropping
nuggets
or
news
here
david
earlier.
Whenever
you're
talking
about
your
team,
you
were
like
yeah.
If
we
need
to
have
a
call
with
amd.
Ubisoft
you've
already
announced
things
with
them.
You
mentioned
the
company
konami.
No,
he
mentioned
one.
He
dropped.
C
B
B
Could
have
stated
any
company
in
the
game
industry.
We
literally
know
everybody
like
literally
it's
it's.
You
know,
you
know
when
we
started
even
before
the
company
started.
We
started
speaking
with
all
of
the
major
players
and
we
asked
them.
Okay,
what
are
the
problems?
You
have?
What
are
these
the
data?
B
Because
we
had
that
relationship
and
so
over
time
you
know
gdc,
e3,
china,
joy,
toco
game
show
for
three
years,
we've
been
doing
them
one
by
one
every
year
and
keep
getting
information
feedback
showing
what
we
had
and
so
on,
and
so
so
so
we
basically
built
further
the
relationship
with
them
and
and-
and
this
is
how
we
managed
to
secure
this.
Many
developers
like
at
this
point
150
are
on
board
with
the
ultra
story,
so
so
yeah
really
any
company
they
all
every
company
that
has
a
name
out
there.
C
One-
and
you
mentioned-
I
mean
you
mentioned-
that
there's
a
lot
of
companies
that
obviously
are
on
board
with
the
story
and
there's
two
of
them
in
in
particular
that
have
made
formal
partnerships
or
that
there's
been
announcements
of
of
partnerships
in
a
recent
time.
So
you
you
touched
upon,
I
guess
feda
and
atari.
Can
you
talk
about
a
little
bit
about
how
that
happens
like
how
does
a
partnership
come
to
place?
What
is
their
role
in
all
of
this?
What
what
do
you?
How
does
the
vision
come
together.
B
B
Actually,
it
is
a
addition,
and
so
for
us,
this
business
model
is
is,
is
very
powerful
because
for
our
user
base
we're
basically
facilitating
the
discovery
of
new
services,
onboarding
of
new
services
and
so
on,
and
for
them,
basically,
they
have
a
new
source
of
users
and
then
because
they
are
part
of
our
ecosystem,
they
get
to
use
our
blockchain
technology,
they
get
to
use.
You
know
our
infrastructure,
special
functionalities
and
so
on.
B
So
basically,
it
is
for
them
a
way
to
enhance
their
products,
and
it
is
for
them
a
way
to
increase
their
user
base,
and
it
is
for
us
a
way
to
grow
the
platform
faster
through
the
user
base
of
other
services,
and
it
is
a
way
for
us
to
provide
a
better
seamless
user
experience.
So
so
really
everybody
is
winning
and-
and
it's
not
like
they
need
to
you
know,
put
the
cross
on
their
other
business.
A
A
So
one
of
the
cool
things
I
found
was:
if
I'm
a
game
developer,
I
could
launch
a
gaming
license,
it
would
be
an
nft
and
I
could
set
different
rules
and
variables
on
it
for
taking
a
cut
of
the
resale
value
of
a
game
right.
So
currently,
if
I'm
a
game
developer,
I
I'm
ea
sports
and
I
made
madden.
I
can't
really
control
the
second
hand
market
after
someone
played
the
game
and
then
they
sell
it
back
to
like
eb
games,
for
example,
and
trades
it
in
for
a
new
game.
A
The
game,
the
game
developer,
doesn't
really
make
anything
from
that.
They
have
no
control
over
that,
but
within
your
system
from
the
way
I
understand
it
would
be.
I
develop
a
game,
I
sell
it
to
someone
and
then
they
want
to
sell
it
to
eve.
I
could
have
something
in
that
nft.
That
basically
gives
me
like
five
percent
of
all
second
hand,
sales,
or
something
like
that
is
that
am
I
accurate
here.
B
Yeah,
so
so,
basically,
when
you
publish
a
game
on
ultra
or
let's
start
differently,
any
nft
that
is
generated,
that
is
the
end
like
ultra
nft,
came
from
what
we
call
a
token
factory,
so
the
token
factory
is
generating
one
type
of
nft.
So
if
you
have
an
nft
for
a
particular
game
version,
you
would
have
one
token
factory.
If
you
have
an
nft4,
maybe
the
limited
edition,
that's
another
token
factory.
B
So
one
token
factory
kind
of
like
a
real
factory
produces
one
type
of
product,
but
then
you
can
have
multiple
factories
so
for
the
same
game
you
might
have.
You
know
three
different
factories,
standardization,
limited
edition
and
then
the
game
of
the
year
edition,
with
all
of
the
dlcs
and
so
on,
and
so
when,
when
a
game
developer
publishes
a
game
on
ultra,
they
you
know
set
their
store
page
like
uploading
images,
description
and
so
on.
Then
they
would
upload
their
files,
you
know,
and
then
we
have
a
really
powerful,
probably
I'm
like
so
far.
B
I
have
seen
no
other
platform
that
has
such
powerful
file
management
and
and
file
delivery
technology
like
even
playstation
xbox
steam.
They
don't,
they
don't
have
what
we
have
and
then
once
they
are
done,
they
can
productize
these
files,
a
version
that
is
for
the
chinese
market.
That
only
contains
chinese
language.
B
You
can
productize,
it
sell
it
like
you,
set
up
a
token
factory
and
you
can
set
the
lower
price,
because
you
know
there's
only
chinese
language
in
it
and
then
you
can
create
another
version
for
the
international
version
with
small
languages
and
and
you
can
do
dlcs
and
so
on
and
and
each
of
these
different
products
you
will
have
the
ability
to
decide.
Can
it
be
traded?
Yes,
can
it
be
traded
right
away?
No,
maybe
you
can
start
trading
it
next
year.
Is
there
a
minimum
price?
Is
there
a
commission
fee?
B
So
any
game
or
any
content
published
on
ultra
is
tokenized
through
a
token
factory
that
you
set
up
through
an
interface
through
a
application
that
you
find
in
ultra,
that
we
call
the
game
the
game
dev
center,
which
is
what
you
get
access
to
when
you
register
as
a
game
developer
you,
you
can
start
setting
up
different
store
pages
for
different
games
and
uploading
your
files
and
and
all
of
that
yeah.
So.
A
C
Yeah,
I
was
gonna,
say
something
so
you
you
so
a
big
focus
right
now.
What
you
talked
about
is
about
the
game
developers
right
and
I'm
sure
that
a
lot
of
people
in
the
audience
right
now
are
not
necessarily
developers
which
obviously
they're
a
key
component
of
the
equation.
Without
the
developers
you're
not
going
to
have
any
games.
What
about
on
the
on
the
user
side?
How
does
that
impact
their
experience?
What
does
this
mean
for
them?.
A
So
it
really
comes
down
to
a
great
user
experience
for
not
only
developers
but
for
the
end
users
and
making
it
as
easy
as
possible
ram.
You
could
elaborate
on
the
nft
with
the
uos
token,
but
after
that
I
want
to
get
into
the
the
the
re,
the
ultra
power
model,
because
we
have
some
people
in
the
chat
talking
about
how
this
stuff
relates
to
eos.
Well,
there's
a
lot
of
great
ideas
from
different
chains
and
like
imitation's,
the
ultimate
form
of
flattery,
and
I
personally
think
that
the
ultra
power
model
is
great.
A
I
don't
know
if
it's
great
necessarily
on
a
public
network
like
eos,
but
it's
a
great
idea.
I
like
seeing
different
iterating
on
the
vanilla,
eos
io
tool
set
and
expanding
on
it,
making
it
better
so
rami.
I
guess
finit.
Could
you
please
finish
the
answer
that
you
started
and
then
we
can
get
into
ultra
power
and
like
what
it
is
and
what's
different
from
like
main
net
resources.
D
Sure,
actually,
I
wanted
david
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
fusing
of
uos
into
nfts
sure
and
one
one
detail
that
he
left
out,
which
I
think
is
actually
really
quite
important
for
the
token
factor
is
you
can
set
the
maximum
limit
of
nfts
for
any
toki
token
issuance,
so
you
can
have
a
limited
run
of
games
which
until
now
has
only
been
possible
with
physical
objects.
I
think
with
digital
objects
is
also
really
interesting.
D
They
have
secondary
value
on
the
markets
and
they're,
backed
up
by
blockchain
technology,
which
is
you
know
what
what
we're
all
here
for,
like
it's
immutable,
it's
long-term!
It's
interesting!
It
provides
privacy
and
freedom.
I
mean
like,
like
all
the
stuff
that
we're
interested
in,
but
now
for
games
and
for
nfts.
B
Absolutely,
and
just
to
to
also
to
like
quick
note
everything
we
explained
about
token
factories.
They
work
for
virtual
assets
as
well
virtual
items,
collectibles
and
and
so
on.
So
what
we
we're
building
is
really
like,
like
a
foundation
for
other
things,
yeah,
so
maybe
do
you
want
me
to
transition
to
the
power
or
or
should
I.
C
Talk
about
the
power
how
that
that
comes
about
for
for
end
users
right,
because
we've
seen
that
there's
a
lot
of
pain
points
with
blockchain
as
a
whole.
A
key
component
to
adoption
is
making
it
as
simple
as
possible,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
like
about
ultra
is
that
you're
abstract
from
the
very
beginning.
C
The
idea
is
to
abstract
away
a
lot
of
the
blockchain
components,
so
rami
talks
about
how
we
are
in
it
for
the
blockchain
component
side
of
things,
but
the
end
user
might
not
even
know
that
it's
running
on
blockchain
it
doesn't
really
matter
they're.
Just
wanting
to
ensure,
like
I
remember,
diablo
3
marketplace
was
one
of
the
the
big
ones
where
immediately
after
diablo
3
got
released,
there's
a
marketplace,
that's
part
of
it
and
then
there's
a
resell
of
items
and
there's
a
huge
uptick
in
in
price,
and
then
everything
crashed.
C
Because
then
there
was
a
lot
of
fake
items
that
came
about
et
cetera.
So,
for
the
end
user
part,
it's
not
so
much
whether
it's
running
on
blockchain
or
not
it's,
whether
or
not
that
you
know
the
whole
environment
can
can
keep
its
valuation
etc,
and
that's
where
the
blockchain
component
comes
in,
but
from
the
end
user
component.
C
How
does
that
work
for
them
like
how
do
they
interact
differently
or
or
how
is
it
abstracted
away
from
them
so
that
they
basically
just
play
their
games
and
enjoy
the
content
that
they're
currently
enjoying
it's
just
more
secure?
It's
just
better
for
them.
So
can
you
talk
about
a
little
bit
about
that?
Because
there
are
some
limitations
to
blockchain
right
now?
How
did
you
guys
abstract
that
away,
even
for
example,
in
the
language
that
you've
used
when
we
talk
about
the
resource
model,
some
of
the
language
choices
that
you've
made
really
abstracts
away?
B
Yeah,
so
I
I
think
a
very
good
example
to
the
abstract
of
wording
we
do
is
is
like
a
very
simple
example
like
right
now
you
have
on
eos,
you
have
an
owner
key,
and
then
you
have
an
active
key
okay.
So
for
us
the
active
keys,
we
call
them
device
keys
so
because,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
guy
has
one
computer,
that's
one
device,
he
has
one
phone,
that's
one
device,
and
so
we
call
them
device
keys.
B
But,
aside
from
you
know,
nomenclature
like
one
thing,
that's
really
important
and
the
reason
why
we
build
our
blockchain
is
because
ultra
is
designed
for
a
mass
market
audience
like
mainstream
zero
knowledge
of
technology.
They
can
just
use
apps
and
they
don't
want
to
bother
understanding
on
learning
technology.
They
just
want
to
buy
a
game
play
a
game.
B
And
it's
still
the
case
today,
you
know
on
and,
and
so-
and
this
is
this
is
why
we,
we
didn't
create
a
product
that
we
fit
into
the
blockchain.
We
created
a
product
and
then
we
fit
the
blockchain
around
it,
and
so
some
of
the
like
requirements
are
like,
of
course,
like
you,
don't
want
them
to
have
to
understand
how
resources
work,
what
is
cpu?
What
is
bandwidth?
What
is
ram
you?
B
B
The
idea
is
that
we
don't
want
users
to
pay
for
accounts.
We
don't
want
users
to
worry
about
staking,
and
so
for
for,
for,
for
example,
for
staking
what
we
do
is
we.
We
moved
the
responsibilities
of
and
the
complexity
of
sticking
from
developers
and
we
from
users.
Then
we
moved
it
to
developers,
and
so
we
we
basically
say
if
you
have
a
blockchain
service,
you
should
be
sponsoring
these
transactions
for
the
users
of
your
blockchain.
B
And
then,
when
you
start
thinking
about
it,
then
you
start
seeing
there's
a
lot
of
possibilities
for
abuse
and
there's
a
lot
of
possibilities
for
attacking
the
network,
and-
and
this
is
how
we
we
started
thinking
and
came
up
with
a
with
our
power
resource
model.
So,
first
of
all,
basically
we
combined
bandwidth
and
cpu
in
a
single
resource
that
we
call
ultra
power
because.
B
B
So
in
our
case,
it's
all
in
the
same
thing
and
if
you
use
cpu
just
remove
some
of
that
same
unit,
so
it
simplify
already
one
layer
and
then
the
second
thing
is
when,
when
you
know
when
you
want
to
stake,
you
need
to
know
how
much
you
need
and
then,
when
you
do,
that,
you
reserve
a
part
of
the
network,
and
so
that's
why?
Basically,
at
this
point,
eos
is
looking
at
a
new
resource
model,
because
the
previous
one
is
extremely
inefficient.
B
B
If
the
network
is
not
completely
used,
you
can
take
whatever
cpu
or
whatever
net
you
have
multiplied
by
that
multiplier
and
then,
as
soon
as
the
network
reached
capacity,
the
multiplier
becomes
one,
and
at
that
point
basically,
if
you
own
one
percent
of
the
network,
even
if
you
don't
off
eos
coins,
even
if
you
don't
use
them,
they
are
reserved
for
you.
So
so
that
becomes
like
a
problem,
and
so
so
there's
two
problems.
First,
you
need
to
deal
with.
B
You
know
calculating
the
resources
you
need,
plus,
when
network
reaches
congestion,
then
basically
it
becomes
even
worse
than
the
congestion,
because
everybody
reserves
their
own
thing,
there's
no
multiplier,
and
so
what
we?
What
we
do
is
in
essence.
We
we,
we,
you,
you
can't
you
don't
reserve
how
much
of
the
network
you
own.
B
You
just
get
handled
up
until
the
moment
when
the
network
might
in
some
situation
or
at
all
time
be
at
hundred
percent,
and
then
at
that
point,
what
it
does
it's
just
going
to
look
at,
how
much
ultra
power
do
you
have
and
you
might
have
zero,
because
you
might
never
have
stick
and
that's
perfectly
fine.
The
way
it
will
do.
B
Basically,
you
go
in
negative
and
that's
perfectly
fine
and
maybe
there's
a
million
of
people
that
are
negative
and
then
what
we
do
is
we
just
execute
the
ones
that
are
the
least
in
negative
and
then
the
other
ones
get
executed
up
until
a
moment
where,
maybe
your
transaction,
you,
you
have
a
super
negative
thing.
You've
been
basically
free
loading.
If
you
will
the
network
eventually
your.
A
D
So
you
have
a
system
where
the
most
important
transactions
always
get
through,
and
then
you
have
everybody
else
who
has
a
fair
access
to
the
system
through
the
decay
mechanism.
And
then
you
have
the
people
that
are
obviously
abusing
the
system
trying
to
push
through
too
many
transactions
that
they're
pushed
way
down
into
the
queue.
So
they
don't
interfere
with
the
rest
of
the
system
so
that
the
ones
that
have
the
most
valid
access
to
the
system
actually
have
access
to
the
system.
A
A
Yeah
I
mean
so
combining
net
and
cpu,
like
I
think
that
makes
sense
like
once
you
know,
like
the
magic
ratio
of
like
what's
typical
and
what's
not
going
to
screw
things
over
like
it
would
be
easier
to
just
think
of
one.
But
at
the
same
time
that's
really
never
been
an
issue
on
eos,
but
I'm
thinking
of
like
the
implementation
queue.
It
sounds
almost
like
a
mempool,
but
on
an
eosio
chain.
It's.
C
C
Think
of
it
like
the
way
that
I
like
to
think
of
the
ultra
power
and
the
I'm
really
oversimplifying
here,
but
think
of
going
to
a
theme
park
and
you
essentially
get
in
line
to
ride
a
you
know,
roller
coaster
or
whatever
it
is,
but
some
people
buy
the
the
fastpass
and
they
just
get
to
skip
the
line
because
they
bought
the
fastpass.
So
everybody
gets
to
ride
the
roller
coaster.
C
It
doesn't
really
matter
just
some
people
decide
that
they
don't
want
to
wait
in
line
for
you
know
five
minutes
or
15
minutes
whatever
it
is.
They
get
to
skip
the
line,
but
the
the
roller
coaster
itself
is
able
to
accommodate
full
ride
all
the
time.
So
there's
never
any
like.
If
there
are
people
in
line
they're
gonna
fill
out
every
single.
What
would
you
call
them
like
the
cars
on
the
on
the
roller
coaster
or
whatever
it
is,
and
that's
what
the
real
difference
is?
C
Is
you're
never
sending
a
roller
coaster
out
without
have
with
by
having
seats
empty,
your
seats
are
always
full.
It's
just
who
gets
to
be
there
first
is
is
the
big
difference,
and
that's
essentially
where
the
mainnet
wants
to
move
as
well,
so
it
doesn't
really
have
to
do
so
much
with
the
combining
cpu
and
net.
C
C
D
Like
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
ultra
is
bringing
to
the
table,
here
is
the
core
concepts
that
they
want
to
present
to
the
end.
Users
are
simple
and
accessible,
and
you
know
that
has
to
do
with
all
the
work
that
we've
done
around.
You
know
the
staking
and
resources
on
the
network,
but
it
also
has
to
do
with
how
we're
addressing
things
like
accounts
on
the
system.
D
So,
if
you've
used
eosio
software,
whether
it's
the
us
mainnet
or
whether
it's
wax
or
telos
or
any
of
the
number
of
networks
that
are
running
today,
that
are
all
really
excellent.
Doing
simple
stuff,
like
building
out
a
blockchain
account
for
a
user,
is
I'm
not
going
to
say
monumental,
but
it's
a
really
difficult
task
for
a
lot
of
people
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
working
on
at
ultra
for
quite
a
while
now
are
easy
ways
to
open
accounts.
D
So
when
you
open
an
account
for
an
ultra
for
the
ultra
client
you're,
actually
opening
an
account
within
the
client
which
is
also
generating
a
blockchain
account
and
that's
conceptually
very
familiar
for
most
users.
So
you
go
to
gmail.
You
open
an
account
and
the
those
users
they
don't
care.
What
database
software
the
account
is
being
pushed
to.
They
don't
care
about
any
of
the
the
routing
that
it
goes
through
or
any
of
you
know
like
the
the
back
end
software
that's
associated
with
them.
D
They
have
an
account
that
they
can
reset
they
if
they
don't
have
to
manage
their
keys.
There
there's
you
know
a
simplicity
to
it,
and
it's
really
important
that
when
we
talk
about
going
mainstream,
pushing
blockchain
technologies
to
you
know
everyday
users
that
things
like
blockchain
accounts
are
transparent
to
them.
That
things
like
resource
management
is
transparent
to
them,
that
they
can
just
do
the
transactions
that
they
want
to
do,
because
that's
what
they're
there
for
they're,
not
there,
you
know
to
deal
with
all
the
complexity.
A
B
D
D
C
D
D
B
So
so
the
blog,
the
blockchain.
Actually,
when
you
create
an
account,
we
we
have
a
tier
system
and
this
tier
system
provide
different
amounts
of
ram
or
different
permissions
like
like
how
many
keys
can
it
have?
How
many
permissions
can
it
have
and
we
kind
of
quantified
that
and
so
and
then
we
have
a
like
the
ability
to
say.
Okay,
this
account
is
going.
This
type
of
is
going
to
be
this
kind
of
accounts
and
then
you're
going
to
receive
a
different
amount
of
ram.
B
You
know,
depending
okay,
this
account
can
have
five
keys.
We
know
exactly
how
much
five
keys
is
and
then
this
account
is
going
to
have
this
much
permissions.
We
know
exactly
as
well,
and
so
we
so
basically
you
buy
your
account
and
you
want
that,
or
that
and-
and
you
just
receive
that
packaged
so
that
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
it
and
then
eventually,
maybe
you
will
need
more
devices
and
so
you're
going
to
buy
something.
C
Nice
and
I
guess,
we've
been
talking
about
performance
as
a
whole
without
actually
talking
about
the
performance,
which
is
a
good
segue
into
you.
Just
released
the
test
net
results
right,
so
there's
been
some
some
back-end
test
net
testing
going
on
and
benchmarking
going
on.
Can
you
talk
about
that?
C
And
can
you
talk
about
when
the
public
test
net
is
going
to
be
coming
out
and
when
the
I
guess
the
main
net
public
mainnet
is
going
to
be
coming
about
but
touch
upon
the
performance
itself,
because
you
guys
have
done
some
really
interesting
and
really,
how
can
I
say
some
some
improvements
to
the
the
vanilla
layer
of
eos
io,
which
has
led
to
performance
increases?
So
can
you
talk
about
that.
B
Sure
so,
actually
it's
funny,
because
when
we
started
the
queuing
system
for
us
you
know
initially
it
looked
like
okay.
This
is
an
additional
layer
on
top
of
us.
You
know
the
us
doesn't
have
the
queuing.
This
is
something
that's
coming,
and
so
we
were
thinking
how
to
optimize
it
to
kind
of
reach
the
same
performance
and
we
we
were
expecting
okay,
we're
going
to
lose
five
percent,
but
that's
fine
because
you
know
easiness
and
and
and
like
no
management
of
resources,
and
anybody
can
do
real.
B
Free
transaction
was
worth
it,
but
then
it
turns
out
that
some
of
the
part
that
we
removed
from
eois,
because
we
didn't
need
them
anymore-
basically
provided
us
more
performance
at
the
end
of
the
day,
even
though
we
included
our
queuing
system
than
than
basically
eos,
so
it
was
a.
It
was
a
really
good
surprise
and
then
on
top
of
that,
of
course,
there
is
a
really
huge
gain
when
it
comes
to
successful
transaction,
because
you
know
when
you
stake
coins
on
u.s.
D
B
Basically,
we
don't
need
to
find
the
sweet
spot,
that's
the
beauty
of
it.
There
is
no
need
for
a
sweet
spot
on
eosu,
and
but
what
we
did
is
we
compared
the
benchmark.
We
created
different
scenarios
where
some
people
stick
too
much
some
people
not
enough.
Some
people
write
exactly.
We
made
it
based
on
a
curve
and
then
we
we
sent
like
millions
and
millions
of
transactions,
and
then
we
could
compare
what
would
happen.
B
You
know
in
this
scenario
on
eos
and
then
we
just
compare
with
ours,
and
we
we
could
see
like
the
that
our
strategy
in
different
scenarios
was
superior
to
the
original
vanilla,
strap
strategy
which,
which
makes
sense
because
and
which
is
the
reason
why
why
uis
is
looking
for
this
new
resource
model?
And
I
mean
I
think
everybody
is
aware
of
this
problem,
and
now
it's
just
going
to
be.
Who
is
going
to
have
the
right
strategy
right.
A
B
You
know,
people
that
we
don't
necessarily
know,
and-
and
this
is
going
to
happen
really
soon
and
I
and
then
the
basically
the
main
net
will
come
once
we're
done.
Stress
testing
the
blockchain,
because
this
is
still
undergoing
everything.
We've
done
for
the
benchmark
was
done
in-house,
even
though
we
had
physically
separated
nodes
and
we've
really
done
it
like
okay.
B
This
is
this
is
what
it's
going
to
be
different
bps,
if
you
will,
but
now
we're
going
to
run-
and
you
know
actually,
bps
are
about
to
run
them
themselves
so
that
we
can
test
the
benchmark
between
what
we
did
with
our
infrastructure
with
what
they
are
doing
with
their
infrastructure.
And
then,
if
we
see
okay,
they
are
they're
higher
than
good.
If
they're
lower.
Then
you
know
we
can
try
to
home
in
okay.
Where
is
the
problem,
and
how
can
we
improve
it
and
that's
what
basically
we're
we're?
A
I
think
one
of
the
things
a
lot
of
our
audience
on
this
show
are
waiting
for
and
I
I
can
kind
of
relate
so
right
now.
Ultra
is
an
erc20
token,
so
a
lot
of
our
audience
are
eos
people
or
eosio
people,
and
obviously
they
want
to
buy
and
sell
tokens.
I
know
you
probably
can't
get
into
price
or
speculation
or
anything,
but
just
having
access
to
them
using
the
exchanges
and
dexes
and
swap
pools
that
they're
used
to
I'm
just
gonna
go
for
it.
Bitfinex
is
one
of
your
block.
A
Producers
they've
been
they're
one
of
your
original
block
producers
along
with
eos
new
york
at
the
time-
and
I
forget
who
else
but
eos
finnex
is
a
thing
and
it's
about
to
launch
soon
and
they're.
Doing
rap
tokens
with
p
tokens
and
different
things.
Is
there
a
possibility
that
people
using
eos
mainnet
will
have
access
to
uos
anytime
in
the
near
future?.
B
A
A
I
I've
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
like
last
october,
when
I
met
some
of
your
team
in
person.
I
came
back
from
korea
and
I
was
telling
people
about
this
ultra
project
and
how
it
was
kind
of
flying
under
the
radar
and
a
big
reason
is
because
not
every
user
uses
bitfinex
or
wherever
else
it's
available.
They're
eos
people
I'm
around
are
like
eos
people
and
and
they
they
follow
eosio
projects,
and
this
just
happens
to
be
one
that
they're
like.
A
B
To
this
extent,
I'd
like
to
add
like
like
something
that
is
important
to
understand
about
ultra.
You
will
download
the
client
from
our
website.
You
will
install
it.
You
will
register
your
account
just
the
way
you're
used
to
and
you
will
have
your
blockchain
account
and
it's
secured
and
it's
it's
going
to
be,
providing
you
a
non-custodial
decentralized
way
to
recover
your
key.
It's
foolproof,
it's
working
for
kids
and
then
you
can
have
any
dap
that
can
publish
apps
than
in
ultra.
B
You
know
like
right
now
we're
working
with
stata
and
so
on,
but
you
will
have
other
services
that
can
come
so
basically,
just
imagine
that
the
ultra
is
really
something
you
install
you
register
and
then
you
get
access
to
everything
and
you
don't
have
to
understand
how
to
secure
your
key
is
how
to
recover
them
or
how
to
how
this
works,
how
the
power
works.
Do
I
need
to
stake?
All
of
that
is
like
literally
gone,
you
just
install
ultra.
You
get
access
to
everything.
C
All
I
want
to
do
is
install
ultra
and
then
download
assassin's
creed
valhalla
and
have
in-game
items.
That's
all
I'm
looking
for
somebody
mentioned
that
in
the
in
the
chat,
because
we
were
talking
about
ubisoft
earlier
right.
So
when
can
we
expect
david?
I
know
you
can't
mention
any
dates,
but
do
we
have
an
idea?
Can
you
say
any
idea
of
when
you
expect
something
to
be
somewhat
available
for
for
general
public?
A
C
There's
one
thing:
actually
there's
one
thing
zach
before
we
do
that,
there's
one
thing
we
wanted
to
ask
ramy
from
the
very
beginning,
so
randy
and
obviously
nathan
come
from
the
wallet
space
within
eos
and
there's.
One
thing
I
wanted
to
touch
upon,
which
we
kind
of
skipped
over
in
the
very
beginning
was
the
onboarding.
C
Obviously
you
know
you've
had
experience
with
with
wallets
and
such.
So
how
is
the
onboarding
for
people
in
terms
of
let's
say
fiat,
onboarding
or
in
terms
of
coming
into
the
ecosystem?
Can
you
touch
upon
that
a
little
bit
and
how
you
optimize
and
how
you
brought
some
of
your
experience
on
that
front
of
things,
because
that's
one
of
the
pain
points
that
we
have
in
the
ecosystem
as
well?
It's
just
the
onboarding
section.
D
The
account
itself
is
free
when
you're
doing
purchases
through
the
system,
it's
done
with
a
credit
card.
It
feels
like
online
shopping.
It's
super
straightforward.
The
purchases
themselves
can
either
be
through
uos
or
through
fiat.
They
go
through
the
ultra
blockchain
they're
posted
to
the
ultra
blockchain,
as
you
would
expect
any
blockchain
transaction
to
be
it's
all
transparent
to
the
user
developers
have
access
to
it.
Auditors
have
access
to
it.
You
know
all
the
benefits
of
a
blockchain
technology
used
in
the
right
way.
I
think
benefit
everybody.
A
Well,
I
was
trying
to
do
earlier
whenever
I
was
trying
to
summarize.
I
don't
know
if
we
named
all
the
all
of
the
corporate
partners.
I
don't
know
if
we
named
all
of
them,
but
I
just
want
to
read
through
the
list
is
amd.
Maybe
I'll
maybe
ask
what
what
each
one's
rule
is.
So
I
know
ubisoft
is
a
a
corporate
block
producer,
so
they're
actually
going
to
produce
blocks
on
your
blockchain,
be
a
validator
amd
was
one
of
the
original
partnerships
they're,
not
a
block
producer
right
there.
B
In
basically
is
going
to
bring
a
lot
of
users
on
the
platform,
so
every
time
you
you
will
install
a
gpu
driver
or
update
the
gpu
driver,
they
will
propose
to
install
ultra
worldwide
every
time
you're
buying
today
a
gpu.
Well,
not
every
time.
In
many
cases,
when
you
buy
a
gpu,
you'll
receive
a
free
game
and
right
now
it's
renewable
on
steam.
Well,
in
the
future,
it's
going
to
be
relievable
on
ultra,
so
these
are
new
users
for
us.
B
Absolutely
so
actually
we're
we're
talking
about
like
all
of
their
products
like
it's
regardless
of
like.
When
is
the
launch
or
something
it
can
be
like
the
old
generation
new
generation.
It's
just
going
to
happen
once
we
provide
them
the
ability
to
give
these
keys,
then
they
will
do
it
immediately
and
and
of
course,
there's
also
work
on
the
optimization
of
our
code
of
our
technology
for
the
servers
for
block
producers
and
then
there's
some
other
interesting
partnership
that
are
that
are
going
to
be
very
interesting
to
to
discuss
about
in
the
future.
B
I
think
that
covers
it.
Of
course,
you
know.
Md
has
a
lot
of
relationship
in
the
game
industry.
They
are
helping
us
also.
You
know
securing
some
deals,
introducing
us
to
game
developers
and
so
on.
So
so
it's
really
it's
a
it's
a
long-term
partnership.
It's
a
win-win
partnership
and
yeah
we're
looking
forward
to
to
announce
some
of
the
extra
exciting
stuff
with
them.
A
B
Yeah,
so
this
is
really
interesting,
so
basically,
you
will
be
able
to
buy
atari
games
on
our
store
that
you
can
play
then
on
the
console,
but
you
will
also
be
able
to
get
access
to
ultra
within
the
console.
So
we-
so
that's
very
you,
know
unique.
You
will
be
able,
within
the
vcs
to
buy
games
through
ultra
that
are
games,
that
people-
or
I
mean
developer,
published
on
ultra
so
basically
when
they
publish
on
ultra
their
game
will
be
on
ultra
but
also
purchasable
on
the
console.
B
So
that's
something
new
and
then
there's
also
discussions
about
potential
usage
of
our
nft.
You
know
the
nft
is
more
than
just
an
nft
with
us.
It
comes
with
the
sdk,
comes
with
tool
set.
It
comes
with
our
marketplace,
you
know,
and
all
of
the
infrastructure
for
publishing
what
we
called
like
these
token
factories
and
so
on.
C
A
B
C
I
do
have
one
question
zach,
I
don't
know
if
you've
noticed,
but
there's
one
thing
that
that
we
see
a
lot
so
we've
been
covering
ultra,
obviously
for
for
a
while.
Now
we
do
our
weekly
hot
sauce
and
there's
one
thing
that
keeps
coming
about
is
people
keep
saying:
ultra
is
life?
Can
you
talk
about?
That
is
that
is
that
something
that
comes
from
you
guys?
Is
that
something
that
your
community
has
in
that
that
created
and
you
guys
have
taken
on
talk
about
ultra's
life.
B
C
B
A
Stream
there
we
go
okay,
so
we
have
some
logos
up
here
if
you're
not
on
the
screen
right
now.
Let
me
oh
you
never
mind
so
you
met
I
mentioned
atari
because
it
was
recently
announced.
Atari
is
obviously
not
on
this
graphic.
This
graphic
is
probably
a
couple
months
old,
but
I
I
see
you
have
all
of
the
big
gaming
platforms
on
here.
B
Talk,
let's
see
about
other,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
this:
all
our
technologies
have
been
designed
for
cross-platform
from
the
beginning,
and
the
sdk
is
already
cross
platform.
It
works
on
playstation,
it
works
on
xbox,
it
works
on
android,
it
works
on
ios,
it
works
for
mac,
for
linux
and
for
windows,
so
the
basically
our
sdk
will
is,
is
going
to
be
both
used
by
games,
leveraging
our
nft
technology,
but
also
by
applications.
B
So-
and
this
is
where
it
gets
really
interesting-
is
our
sdk
will
be
used
in
applications
like
you
can
imagine
a
chat
application
with
emoticon
that
are
nfts,
that
people
can
trade
and
so
on
you,
you
don't
need
to
go
through
like
the
current
complexity
of
integrating
something
like
this
in
your
app.
And
how
do
you
get
the
data
from
and
where
is
you
know?
Can
you
can
you
get
the
inventory
in
real
time?
But
you
know
maybe
somebody
launched
the
app
gets
their
emoticon,
but
then,
in
the
background,
he's
selling
it.
B
Do
you
still
allow
him
to
use
that
emoticon?
Well,
all
of
this
is
like
complexity.
Difficult
like
you
need
to
actually
have
an
infrastructure
for
that.
Our
sdk
handles
all
of
that
and
it
works
for
game,
but
it
also
works
for
app
and
it
works
for
ultra.
It
works
for
playstation
for
xbox
and
so
on,
and
so
we
will
see
a
lot
of
interesting
thing
coming
from
there
and-
and
I
think
the
vcs
is
a
great
test
bed
for
us.
A
A
C
B
Come
cool!
Thank
you,
yeah!
I'm
also
looking
forward
to
continue
working
with
you
guys
and
also
other
block
producers,
but
also
more
generally
speaking,
with
a
lot
of
people
who
are
making
smart
contracts
who
are
making
services
and
so
on,
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
super
exciting
time.
You
know
what,
because
what
we're
really
doing
now
is
setting
up
infrastructure,
and
this
infrastructure
is
going
to
be
a
tremendous
playground
for
developers
and
that's
what
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
as
we
facilitate.