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A
Welcome
to
episode
12
of
everything,
yes
I'm,
Zack
Gaul
and
I
CEO
data
analyst
at
icy
alert.
The
trusted
ICO
discovery
platform
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upcoming.
I
ce
o--'s
to
discover
the
latest
projects
and
opportunities
like
iOS
io
and
I'm
here
today,
with
the
founder
of
icy
alert
and
CEO
of
safer
glass
rub
pinch.
Thank.
B
You
all
so
much
for
joining
us
for
another
episode
of
everything.
Yes,
if
you
were
one
of
the
many
people
that
left
a
comment
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on
YouTube
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you
are,
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you
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you
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you
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you
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appreciate
all
the
traction
that
we're
getting
and
we're
glad
that
you
guys
are
enjoying
the
show
on.
B
We
get
started
I
do
want
to
mention
that
we
are
both
remote.
The
podcast
last
week
was
actually
remote
as
well.
So
if
you're
a
bit
of
an
audio
difference,
that's
why
I've
been
traveling
next
week.
I
will
be
traveling
for
the
podcast
as
well,
but
the
week
after
will,
finally
both
be
back
in
the
same
location.
So
the
audio
should
before
we
get
started.
I
do
have
to
mention
that
this
is
not
a
sponsored
podcast
and,
as
a
matter
of
disclosure
vote,
Zak
and
I
do
own
Yas
tokens.
B
A
Alright,
so
a
big
week
this
week,
there's
been
a
lot
of
controversy
around
these
account
freezes
and
dan
dan
made
a
huge
blog
post
yesterday
there
is
actually
a
short
little
uptick
in
price
after
it
I
think
it's
stabilized
since
then,
but
it
was
all
good
news.
I
think
made.
He
made
some
suggestions.
You
want
to
kind
of
talk
about
some
of
the
controversy
around
the
current
constitution.
What
led
up
to
this
and
we'll
talk
about
some
of
Dan's
proposed
changes,
yeah.
B
Basically,
they
are
the
only
arbitration
form
right
now
for
disputes
on
us,
but
what
happened
was
that
in
the
current
constitution,
the
way
that
it's
written
gives
decaf
an
insane
amount
of
power
just
more
power
than
than
any
organization,
but
within
the
US
ecosystem
should
have
so
this.
The
e
cap
has
the
power
to
recommend
different
decisions
to
block
producers,
and
some
of
those
decisions
were
freezing
accounts
that
were
hacked.
So
you
know
we
went
through
this
big
token
transition
from
the
year
C
20
tokens
to
the
actual
es
tokens.
B
There
were
a
lot
of
people
who
you
know,
went
to
a
phishing
website
and
typed
in
their
private
key
or
maybe
used
a
fake
euros,
private
key
generation
tool
and,
as
a
result,
we're
going
to
lose
their
yo
s.
So
these
people
basically
reached
out
to
e
calf
and
said:
hey.
Can
you
freeze
my
u.s.
account?
I
noticed
that
the
hacker
is
unsticking,
my
tokens
and
about
to
transfer
them
and
they
went
ahead
and
recommended
that
decision.
B
The
block
producers
who
then
went
ahead
and
froze
those
transactions,
but
what
people
started
to
realize
is
okay,
wait!
If
these,
if
EKF
and
the
block
producers
can
kind
of
go
in
and
freeze
theoretically
any
account.
That's
a
serious
issue
because
you
know
yo
send
the
blockchain
space
in
general
is
all
about
preserving
your
life,
liberty
and
property,
and
if
somebody
can
come
in
and
freeze
your
property
and
effectively
make
it
worthless.
That's
obviously
a
very,
very
bad
thing.
B
So
dan
came
out
and
basically
said
in
the
US
governance
channel
that
the
damage
to
the
community
from
ECAP
is
greater
than
the
funds.
We
hope
to
restore
those
users
and
they
actually
went
ahead
and
proposed
an
entirely
new
constitution
that
now
limits
the
power
of
block
producers
and
e
cap
down
to
just
fixing
contracts
like
the
dow
on
a
theorem,
for
example.
So
so
if
I
write
a
smart
contract
and
somebody
hacks
into
it-
or
it
has
a
bug,
we
can
go
in
and
fix
it.
So.
A
B
I
actually
don't
know
the
answer
that
question
I
believe
it
was
a
small
group
of
block
producers.
Ekf
to
me
is
something
that
I
didn't
even
know
personally
existed
and
nobody
on
our
team
really
knew
existed
until
all
of
this
drama
started
happening
and
we
started
getting
arbitration
orders
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
knew
ahead
of
time.
B
A
It
was
just
really
bad
publicity
because
first
was
the
seven
accounts
from
from
the
main
net
launch.
That
was
I,
guess:
okay,
it
wasn't
a
big
deal,
I,
don't
think,
but
then
the
next
one
next
document
that
came
out
from
me
calf
that
wanted
to
freeze
27,
more
accountants
like
wow.
This
is
getting
a
little
out
of
control
and
I
think
the
worst
part
was
that
they
said
they
didn't
really
give
a
reason.
They
said
we'll
tell
you
later,
but
freeze
him
now,
yeah.
B
And
that's
where
I
had
a
real
problem
with
it,
so
the
first
seven
that
came
out
I
was
on
the
sort
of
on
slack
with
James
one
of
our
tech,
guys
who
participates
in
all
of
those
calls,
and
he
was
saying
hey
you
know,
should
we
agree
with
this?
Should
we
not
and
I
said,
is
there
cryptographic
proof?
Did
these
people
come
out
and
cryptographically
prove
their
ownership
of
the
associative
aetherium
account
to
the
US
accountant?
He
said
yes,
they
showed
us.
The
proofs
I
was
like
okay,
fantastic.
B
B
A
I
guess
we
can
start
explaining
some
of
Dan's
proposed
changes,
the
one
that
I
liked
was
as
far
as
the
arbitration
with
the
ability
for
accounts
to
be
frozen
and
if,
like
they're,
stolen
or
things
like
that,
because
that
was
one
of
the
big
selling
points
of
es
was.
This
industry
is
filled
with
so
many
phishing
scams
and
hackers
that
people
are
constantly
losing
money
so
to
prevent
that
the
ability
to
like
freeze
accounts
seem
like
a
good
thing,
but
not
by
default.
So.
C
B
It's
more
of
an
opt-in
system
rather
than
everybody
has
to
do
it
system,
which
I
like
a
lot,
because
personally
I
take
so
much
tear
over
my
keys
and
not
losing
my
keys
and
having
backups
and
anyways
people
can't
steal
them
that
I'm,
not
gonna,
opt
into
a
system
like
that.
That
gives
arbitrators
power
so
I'm
happy
that
that
they're
going
in
that
direction.
Mm-Hmm.
A
So
that
was
the
big
thing.
I
liked
was
the
opt-in
basis,
because
the
big
like
selling
point
of
blockchain
and
a
mutable
block
chains,
especially,
is
the
censorship
resistance.
So
if
you
want
your
tokens
to
be
censorship
resistant
in
all
cases,
then
you
just
don't
put
them
in
that
smart
contract.
But
if
you,
if
you
want
that
extra
protection,
then
put
them
in
the
smart
contract,
he
also
gave
his
opinion
on
EKF
or
the
big
things
that
you
saw
in
there.
That
you
think
is
worth
sharing.
Yeah.
B
One
interesting
thing,
though,
that
I
think
was
removed.
That
I'm,
not
super
happy
about,
but
I
think
can
be
sort
of
addressed
in
another
way,
is
that
they
removed
the
explicit
prohibition
of
vote
buying
so
now
they're
kind
of
leaving
it
up
to
the
community
to
decide
hey.
Do
you
want
to
allow
blog
producers
to
pay
people
to
vote
for
them
or
not?
And
it's
gonna
be
interesting
to
see
how
that
plays
out.
Yeah.
A
I'm
really
curious
about
that
too.
So
I
don't
know
how
to
go
about
it.
I
don't
know
if,
like
a
voter,
should
be
paid
directly
or
if,
if
like,
there
should
be
a
payment
that
goes
to
some
community-driven
idea,
I'm
curious
to
see
all
the
proposals
for
that,
because
you
don't
want
bad
actors
paying
like
you,
don't
want
the
wrong
block
producers
coming
in
getting
votes
because
they're
paying
the
most
it
shouldn't
be
play
type
of
thing
with
all
these
Constitution
change
suggestions.
A
I
think
this
would
be
a
good
lead-in
to
block
ones
announcement
that
they
made
this
morning
and
we're
recording
this
on
Thursday
block
one
announced
that
they're
going
to
start
using
their
ten
percent
of
the
token
allocation
to
start
voting,
to
add
some
I
guess:
accountability
to
the
network
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
bad
acting
whales,
yeah
dominating
the
space,
because
I
guess
we
could
bring
up
the
other
controversy
was-
was
the
block
producers
name,
we'll
call
him
out
with
he's
a
top
twenty
one
producer.
He
was
apparently
sleeping
or
something.
A
B
I
think
the
double
spend
EKF
order,
and
this
is
another
problem
you
CAF-
is
that
there's
no
way
to
verify
if
an
order
came
from
eat
a
four
if
it
was
just
made
up
and
I
think
the
double
spending
was
actually
made
up
in
addition
to
another
geek,
a
quarter
that
never
actually
originated
for
decaf.
But
the
issue
was
that
going
back
to
those
accounts
that
were
frozen
because
they
were
hacked
and
sort
of
figuring
out
how
to
resolve
that
yo
store
didn't
go
in
as
a
blog
producer
and
blacklist
those
accounts.
B
So
when
it
came
via
stores
turned
to
process
transactions,
that
transaction
went
through
and
they
were
able.
The
hacker
was
able
to
send
those
tokens
out
to
an
exchange
and
sell
them
so
that
person
effectively
lost
that
money
because
of
the
es
store,
but
I
do
believe
that
they
came
out
and
made
that
person
whole,
which
was
good
to
see,
but
it
also
kind
of
was
a
red
flag
like
okay
you're,
not
paying
attention
enough
in
governance,
chat
to
know
when
to
blacklist
you're
not
participating
on
the
weekly
calls.
B
A
B
B
Exactly
I
totally
agree:
we're
at
sign
for
glass
we're
a
team
of
seven,
almost
eight
people,
so
that
we
always
have
somebody
watching
chat
or
you
know,
participating
in
the
calls
generally
somebody
watching
the
livestream,
in
addition
to
somebody
participating
on
the
call
and
that's
something
we
should
mention
as
well.
They're
there
now
to
weekly
calls
for
block
producers
so
twice
a
week,
I
believe
it's
on
Tuesdays
and
Thursdays
the
blocker
users
get
together
sort
of
talk
about
issues.
Talk
about
code
updates,
talk
about.
B
You
know,
RAM
upgrades
which
we'll
touch
on
in
a
little
bit,
but
now
in
an
effort
to
be
more
transparent,
we've
started
live-streaming.
These
calls
to
community.
So,
if
you're
interested
in
what's
being
talked
about
in
one
of
these
calls,
you
can
watch
a
long
live
and
you
know
give
your
feedback
in
the
chat.
A
B
B
There's
nothing
pretty
boring
cuz,
you
know
we're
taking
votes
on,
you
know
hey,
should
we
do
this
code
upgrade
today
or
should
we
do
it
tomorrow?
I
think
it's
good
to
have
them
all
live
stream
and
it's
sort
of
documented
for
historical
purposes,
but
I
think
most
people
will
only
really
want
to
tune
in
when
something
exciting
is
being
talked
about
or
something
that's.
A
big
community
issue
is
being
talked
about
so.
B
A
B
B
But
the
price
of
Ram
right
now
is
definitely
a
problem,
because,
if
you're
a
DAP
developer
and
you
want
to
build
on
EOS-
and
you
need
some
kind
of
RAM
allocation
to
build
that
DAP
and
to
host
your
user
accounts
and
things
like
that,
it
becomes
almost
prohibitively
expensive.
But
the
good
news
is
that,
right
now
the
amount
of
RAM
that
block
producers
have
is
relatively
low
and
it's
going
to
be
increased
in
the
near
future.
So
the
amount
of
RAM
on
each
should
dramatically
increase
over
the
next
six
months.
B
As
we,
you
know,
move
towards
the
end
of
the
year,
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
of
the
specific
time
and
we're
sort
of
all,
putting
together
a
process
to
either
make
those
announcements
in
the
community
or
just
do
the
ram
upgrade
suddenly
overnight,
because
there's
all
these
issues
of
insider
trading
with
RAM
and-
and
you
know,
the
block
creature
is
knowing
about
RAM
at
a
time,
but
something
that
we've
done
personally
is
just
basically
prohibited.
All
of
the
cypher
glass
members
from
trading
ram
at
all.
B
A
So
right
now
the
RAM
is
set
at
64
gigabytes,
so
every
single
node
on
the
network
at
all
the
buck
producers
are
allocating
64
gigabytes
of
RAM
for
the
entire
network
and
then
I
forget
the
website.
That
shows
how
much
of
its
been
purchased
over
60%
of
that
64
gigabytes
has
been
purchased,
but
only
I
think
less
than
a
percent
is
actually
being
used
right.
So
so
the
way
the
the
RAM
works
is
even
if
a
hundred
percent
of
the
ram
was
staked
and
purchased,
and
you
only
owned
a
tiny
piece
of
it.
B
Believe
so
I
know
that's
how
it
works
for
the
the
CPU
and
bandwidth
that
you
get.
You
know
as
part
of
your
tokens
that
we're
a
view
on
one
percent
of
the
tokens
you
own
one
percent
at
CPU
and
bandwidth,
and
can
kind
of
surge
that
I'm
not
sure.
If
that's
the
way
it
is
with
RAM,
but
that
wouldn't
make
sense-
and
it's
worth
noting
also
that
you
know
our
current
infrastructure
has
I
believe
it's
almost
a
terabyte
around.
A
There's
actually
a
ramp
price
trading,
telegram
Chanos
and
just
trying
to
see
what
they're
going,
because
some
people
would
hate
these
people
for
driving
the
price
up.
I,
don't
really
care
I'm,
not
messing
with
it.
I
don't
want
to
get
caught
with
my
pants
down
the
people
that
got
in
early
men
that
they
did
do
really
well
for
themselves.
But
what's
gonna
happen
is
that
these
RAM
upgrades
aren't
gonna
probably
happen
instantly
overnight
because
of
to
be
discussed
and
voted
on
first,
but
as
soon
as
there's,
even
like
rumors
of
it.
A
Getting
speculated
are
rumors
of
you
guys,
even
considering
an
upgrade
I
mean
it's
just
gonna,
dump
right
then
and
there,
and
that
no
one's
gonna
wait
for
it
to
actually
happen.
So
the
the
volatility
is
going
to
be
nuts
there.
There's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
people
that
aren't
gonna,
be
happy
when
that
happens,
but
yeah.
If
they
hold
it
long
term.
I
bet
the
RAM
price
eventually
does
like
whatever
level
it's
at
today.
Maybe
in
a
year
it's
still
gonna
seem
like
a
really
good
price,
even
though
it's
seems
ridiculously
high.
B
Know
I
think
it's
gonna
be
the
opposite
honestly,
where,
as
the
blog
producers
make
more
and
more
money
and
invest
more
and
more
in
the
infrastructure
over
time,
we
we
may
eventually
have
a
hundred
terabytes
of
RAM
in
our
infrastructure
and
every
other
block.
Reducer
may
have
the
same
so
long
term
I
think
personally
will
see
the
price
of
RAM
continue
to
go
down
and
down
and
down,
but
it
will
also
depend.
A
B
We've
had
more
than
ten,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
actual,
let
me
look
up
the
number
airdrops
that
have
actually
happened
on
Yost
cuz.
Obviously
you
know,
a
lot
of
air
drops
have
happened
on
aetherium
relative
to
the
EEOC
RC
20
tokens
that
we've
had,
but
there
have
been
far
fewer
on
Yost,
but
the
average
that
we're
getting
now
is
actually
about
one
u.s.
air
drop
per
day,
which
is
pretty
crazy,
and
a
lot
of
these
are
one-to-one
air
drops
or
two
two
one
air
drops
I'm.
B
Looking
at
my
account
now,
I
have
zero
switcher,
just
my
normal
u.s.
tokens,
a
DD
which
is
basically
a
Korean
version
of
Euro
stack.
So
it's
gonna
be
another
sort
of
decentralized
block
producer.
Seto
switch
is
some
kind
of
health
care.
Company
eox
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
is,
CET,
which
is
this
decentralized
exchange.
That's
actually
live
on
us
right
now
and
then
it
looks
like
today.
I
got
another
one,
a
TD
at
idiom,
dot
IO,
which
is
some
kind
of
payment
and
budget
management
app.
B
A
B
Any
has
I
know,
that's
it,
but
that
was
a
while
ago
right.
That
was
a
long
time
ago.
The
the
CET
token,
which
is
that
Saints
I
believe
so
I,
say
at
CH
AI
NCE
decentralize
exchange
on
ES.
They
are
going
to
list
that
on
their
own
decentralized
exchange,
since
that's
what
they
are,
but
they
said
they're
not
going
to
do
that
until
the
air
drop
is
done,
but
that
could
be
sometime
next
week
that
gets
listed
and
since
there
are
Neos
focused
exchange
I.
Imagine
that
they'll
start
listing
a
lot
of
one.
A
Interesting
thing
about
this
Ram
market
on
the
banquet
protocol
is
it's
essentially
acting
as
a
decentralized
exchange.
Ani
is
like
it's
an
exchange
with
India's
platform,
you're,
essentially
trading
a
OS
for
esram,
and
then
you,
trade,
esram
back
for
a
OS
for
either
a
profit
or
loss.
So
I
could
see
all
these
native
vias
tokens
being
created
through
these
air
drops
and
and
eventually
through
icos,
maybe
they
might
be
able
to
be
traded
within
the
platform.
Just
like
people
were
trading
Ram
right
now.
It's
really
interesting.
Definitely.
B
And
bank,
where
themselves
is
actually
bringing
that
bank
or
platform,
you
know
that
bank
or
decentralized
exchange
on,
if
you're
in
there,
also
bringing
that
to
you.
So
it's
just
a
matter
of
time
until
we
have
that
and
then
us
FedEx
also,
which
is
the
decentralized
version
of
bid
FedEx,
is
coming
to
you
sometime
soon,
so
we
should
have
a
lot
of
decentralized
options
that
I
imagine
will
list
most.
If
not
all,
of
these
air
drops
that
are
coming
out
nice.
What's.
B
No
date
yet
for
the
actual
airdrop
they
are
still
using
the
Genesis
snapshot.
I
believe
that
was
in
their
most
recent
update,
which
I
think
was
on
June
17th,
but
I
put
out
an
airdrop
spotlight,
video
on
the
cyber
glass
YouTube
channel.
They
kind
of
dove
into
specifics
and
the
different
token
economics
behind
it.
Basically,
for
every
one
each
token
you
get
you're
gonna
get
five
point,
one
ever
a
PDR
IQ
tokens.
So
it's
gonna
be
a
pretty
sizable
airdrop
and
a
lot
of
exchanges.
B
A
That
that's
the
only
actual
airdrop
I'm
excited
for,
because
it's
the
only
one
being
done
by
a
company
supported
through
the
es
VC
fund
through
galaxy
digital,
which
which
I
guess
brings
me
to
the
next
piece
of
news
that
came
out
was
I,
don't
know
if
it
came
out
this
morning
or
last
night,
but
I
didn't
see
it
until
this
morning,
but
Mike
Novogratz
came
out
and
he
announced
a
galaxy.
Digital
invested,
twenty
million
dollars
into
a
major
VR
platform.
It's
called
it's
called
high
fidelity
and
it
was
founded
by
a
guy
named
Philip
Rosedale.
A
B
Second
Life
is
basically
a
video
game
world
where
you
kind
of
make
your
second
life,
so
to
speak,
you
make
a
character.
You
have
a
name
first
name
last
name,
but
what
was
interesting
about
Second
Life
is
that
even
when
it
launched
I
think
back
in
2003,
it's
been
around
for
a
long
time.
They
had
an
in-game
currency,
but
at
that
time
obviously,
before
you
know,
bitcoin
was
even
invented.
Before
Krypton
was
a
thing.
It
was
a
centralized
digital
currency,
so
the
company
that
made
the
game
called
Linden
and
it
was
the
linden
dollar.
B
They
had
a
lot
of
control
over
the
actual
real
world
value
of
the
currency.
There
were
people
that
got
burned
by
linden
because
they'd
have
say
I
know
there
were
these,
these
strip,
clubs
and
hotels
in
game
that
people
owned
and
actually
made
real
money
from
like
serious
money.
Six
figures
to
seven
figures
for
these
properties
and
Linden
would
come
in
the
centralized
entity
and
make
a
change
in
the
world
and
then
burn
somebody
and
make
that
person
lose
a
lot
of
money
because
of
their
rule
change,
but
Second
Life
was
kind
of
this.
B
A
Four
billion
dollars
in
global
virtual
transactions
done
on
Second,
Life
I
read
the
article
this
morning
about
it:
I'm,
not
real
in
tune
with
VR
and
gaming.
So
much
but
I.
We
hear
about
all
these
use
cases
of
blockchain
like
transferring
real
estate,
so
you
could
transfer
real
estate
titles
or
land
from
peer-to-peer
through
a
blockchain
protocol
that
that's
gonna
eventually
happen,
butBut,
we're
years
away
from
that,
but
I
think
in
these
virtual
reality
worlds.
We're
gonna
see
that
type
of
transacting.
Sooner
rather
than
later.
A
B
And
I
think
that
some
of
the
stuff
that
block
one
is
working
on
like
the
iPhone
Hardware
wallet
that
will
let
you
use
the
secure
Enclave
in
your
iPhone
to
store
your
EOS.
That's
gonna
open
up
so
many
different
blockchain
based
games
on
use,
because,
if
I
can,
for
example,
let's
say
crypto
kitties
comes
to
EOS.
B
If
I
can
trade,
my
crypto
kitty
and
breed
it
and
do
all
these
things
from
my
phone
just
like
I'm,
using
a
normal
phone
app
that
has
the
potential
to
gain
so
much
more
mainstream
success
than
something
that
I
have
to
access
through
my
browser
and
sign
a
transaction
through
scatter
and
go
through
this
whole
laborious
process.
Yeah.
A
So
so
that
this
is
gonna,
be
big
I
I
think
we
talked
about
this
off
the
air,
how
it's
been
kind
of
quiet
with
all
these
VC
funds
that
that
got
all
this
money
from
the
EOS
ICO
and
there
hasn't
been
really
many
announcements
of
companies
who
are
being
granted
some
of
those
funds.
But
this
is
a
major
one
like
so
so
far.
A
Both
companies
that
gala
see
digital
has
announced
funding
for
have
major
players
involved,
because
ever
a
PD
has
got
Larry
Sanger
involved,
who
found
that
Wikipedia
and
now
we
have
Philip
Rosedale
who
built
Second
Life.
So
the
answer-
people
major
industry
players
in
their
respective
industries
and
I-
think
we're
gonna,
see
see
like
where
we
call
it
do
burrs
and
and
stuff
right.
B
Do
burr
the
decentralized
uber
I
totally
agree:
I
mean
the
there
are
so
many
industries,
particularly
the
digital
industries
and
video
gaming,
being
one
of
those
that
are
so
ripe
for
disruption
because
they
have
these
middlemen
that
are
taking
out
these
massive
fees
or
middlemen
like
Second
Life
that
are
coming
in
and
taking
people's
property.
When
you
know
that
property
should
stay
in
the
hands
of
the
people,
so
those
are
so
right
for
disruption
and.
A
I
think
the
gaming
industry
is
ripe
for
disruption
just
because
of
the
backgrounds
of
bloomer
and
and
Brock
Pierce
who's,
not
part
of
the
team
anymore,
he's
still
part
of
the
community,
just
they
got
their
start
in
this
trading
of
virtual
goods
before
blockchain
years
before
blockchain
was
even
a
thing.
Yeah.
B
A
lot
of
people
don't
know:
Brendan
bloomer
was
worked
with
Goldman
Sachs
I
think
it
was.
He
got
like
a
twenty
five
million
dollar
investment
from
Goldman
Sachs
years
and
years
ago.
He
built
one
of
the
largest
gold
selling
websites
in
the
world
called
he
was
ing
and
they
sold
world
Warcraft
gold-
and
you
know
Guild,
Wars,
gold
and
all
kinds
of
different
virtual
currencies
and
at
one
point
had
400,000
people
working
for
them
in
China
farming,
this
gold
and
then
selling
it
to
people.
B
So
they
built
this
massive
virtual
economy,
so
they
really
understand
like
token
economics
and
and
how
all
this
stuff
works.
But
I
was
to
your
point
about
video
games.
I
was
talking
in
the
u.s.
price
chat.
You
knows
price
to
telegram
chat
earlier
this
week.
Talking
about
how
I
think
gaming
alone
has
the
potential
to
take
something
like
Neos
and
blockchain
technology
cuz.
B
B
B
It's
not
on
the
arbitrator's
to
make
you
right
in
the
end,
I
think
that
puts
a
little
fire
under
them
as
well
to
get
this
app
approved
because
once
the
app
is
approved-
and
you
can,
you
know,
sign
transactions
with
your
face
or
your
fingerprint,
the
the
barrier
to
entry
for
somebody
to
come
in
and
hack,
your
account
and
sira
tokens
is
so
much
higher
that
that
may
be
eventually
eliminated
completely.
So
I
think
they're
kind
of
sweating.
Now,
like
okay,
we
need
to
get
this
wallet
out
to
allow
people
to
protect
their
funds
and.
A
B
A
Discussion
kind
of
got
into
voting
because
currently
it's
a
plutocracy,
the
more
tokens
you
have,
the
more
weight
your
votes
carry
but
like
in
the
real
world.
We
vote
one
person,
one
vote
and
he
kind
of
mentioned.
How
not?
Everyone
wants
a
democracy,
because
bigger
shareholders
probably
should
have
more
weight,
but
not
all
voting
is
going
to
be
equal,
so
maybe,
like
block
producer
voting,
might
be
done
based
on
token
weight.
B
Well,
I
could
see
something
like
Constitution
updates,
for
example,
I.
Could
that
I
think
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
have?
You
know
the
one
person
one
vote
where
anybody
can
come
in
and
your
vote
is,
is
just
as
important
as
the
whales
vote.
I
think
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
whales
and
blog
producers
and
I.
Think
not
all
whales
are
bad,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
whales
are
actually
good.
B
So
if
you
imagine
somebody
that
has
10
million
dollars
locked
up,
yes,
that
person
is
incredibly
incentivized
to
make
decisions
that
are
in
the
best
interest
of
the
network
and
they're
gonna
increase
the
price
in
the
long
term
because
they
have
so
much
to
lose
if
it
doesn't
work
out.
I
think
a
lot
of
these
whales
are
incentivized
to
pick
the
right
block
producers,
but
I
would
like
to
see
it
be
a
little
more
decentralized
and
user
focused
in
the
future.
Yeah.
A
B
B
I
think
something
to
the
point
about
block
1,
announcing
that
they're
gonna
actually
start
voting
with
their
hundred
million
tokens.
I
think
they've
kind
of
realized
that
if
you
just
give
this
chain
to
the
community
completely-
and
it
still
is
I
mean
you
can
you
still
has
control
over
it.
But
if
you
do
that,
things
like
ETF
are
gonna
arise
and
we're
gonna.
Have
these
token
freeze
issues
and
people
are
gonna,
start
freaking
out
so
based
on
the
stuff
that
they've
come
out
with
with
the
new
proposed
constitution
and
then
saying
that
they're
gonna
vote.
B
It
seems
to
me,
like
they're,
taking
more
of
a
like
a
nurture
of
this
chained
stance
where
they're
gonna
come
in
they're
gonna
vote
for
the
best
block
producers
they're
going
to
you
know,
proposed
Constitution
updates
and
then
let
the
community
vote
on
them
and
then
I
think
gradually
over
time.
They're
gonna
get
less
and
less
involved
and
eventually
make
it
that
fully
community
platform.
But
it
seems
to
me
that
they've
realized
with
all
the
ETF
drama
that
hey.
A
I
think
so
it's
it's
definitely
a
good
backup
plan
for,
and
things
go
wrong.
You
have
this
10%
whale
essentially
that
they
that
can
make
things
right,
but
I
think
they'll
be
very
careful
on
the
things
that
they
do
vote
for
because
they
don't
wanna.
Have
anyone
pointing
fingers
at
them
saying
that
they're
they're,
the
corrupt
ones
or
anything
absolutely
one
of
the
other
constitutional
changes
because
they
mentioned
they
want
to
vote
now
or
they're
going
to
vote
is
and
part
of
that
is
going
to
be
for
block
producers.
A
So
it's
casting
a
much
wider
net
and
it
won't
look
like
they're
they're
having
any
favoritism
or
anything,
because
it's
so
many
block
producers
and
they're
gonna
hold
them
to
a
very
high
standard
and
they
on
their
blog
post.
They
mention
the
standards
that
are
the
qualities
that
they're
looking
for
in
Mbps,
that
they
will
be
voting
for
in
alignment
of
the
Constitution
things
like
that.
Yeah.
B
It'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
what
happens
I'm,
not
sure
if
they
have
a
way,
I
assume
that
10%
of
their
10%
of
their
10%,
so
10
million
out
of
the
under
million
tokens
are
unlocked
now,
since
they
they
get
unlocked
every
year
for
ten
years,
which
is
something
a
lot
of
people.
Don't
know
they
can't
just
move
those
hundred
million
tokens.
Now
they
can
vote
with
all
of
them,
but
they
can't
move
them
until
that
full
ten
year
period
is
up.
B
I
think
the
price,
the
the
main
thing
going
on
with
cypher
glass.
We
were
supposed
to
have
an
announcer
ready
by
now,
but
we
have
some
extra
things
that
we're
adding
to
it.
So
maybe
next
week
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
announcement.
We
have
some
exciting
things
coming.
That
should
make
a
lot
of
aspects
of
the
EO
sort
of
ecosystem
easier,
so
to
speak,
but
otherwise
you
know
our
hardware
well
wallet
bounty.
We
put
up
$100,000
bounty
for
a
legend
nos
and
treasure
wallet.
B
A
B
B
B
Yeah
they
are
getting
close,
and
now
it's
I
think
just
a
matter
of
building
that
interface
on
the
computer.
They've
they've
made
it
work
with
Clio's,
which
is
the
command
line
version
of
eos
that
you
know
a
developer
can
use,
but
obviously,
for
this
thing
to
be
user-friendly
and
get
approved
by
LED,
they
have
to
build
in
that
sort
of
wallet,
interface,
so
I
think
that's
what
most
teams
are
working
on
now,
all.
A
A
You've
probably
seen
NS
James
around,
but
he
said
something
in
telegram
quote:
I
just
got
a
sneak
peek
at
the
coolest
thing
running
on
us
I've
ever
seen,
yet
it
I
just
got
a
sneak
peek
at
the
coolest
thing,
I've
ever
seen
running
on
a
blockchain
can't
divulge
info,
but
man
this
is
gonna,
be
a
true
game.
Changer
and
I
really
really
wonder
what
he's
talking
about
because
he's
a
highly
respected
member
and
he
wouldn't
of
the
community,
and
he
wouldn't
just
be
blowing
smoke
on
this
yeah.
C
A
Bein
the
the
devil
and
scatter.
If
anyone
set
up
their
scatter
wallet
there,
you're
allowed
to
give
it
like
personal
details,
like
your
name,
your
phone
number
your
address
and
that's
to
be
used
in
the
future,
like
if
there's
a
shopping,
cart
on
the
es
blockchain,
like
a
shopping,
cart
tool
set
like
automatically.
Has
your
information
already
so
me
like
that's
something
I'm,
hoping
it's
the
decentralized
identity,
because
I've
been
kind
of
waiting
for
that
for
over
a
year
now,
yeah.
B
I'm
hoping
it's
I'm,
hoping
it's
something
related
to
a
video
game,
I'm,
so
excited
of
all
these
potential
video
games.
Maybe
he
saw
like
a
sneak
peek
at
the
VR
world
that
the
Nova
Gracchus
invested
in.
Maybe
it's
like
the
Second
Life
2.0,
that's
decentralized,
I,
don't
know,
but
I'm
just
excited
to
see
these
DAPs
actually
launched
and
and
see.
Some
of
these
use
cases
come
to
life
that
we've
been
waiting
so
long
for
yeah.
A
You're
right,
it
might
have
just
been
the
stuff
we
talked
about
with
galaxy
digital
because
he
said
that
yesterday,
like
four
o'clock
and
then
the
galaxy
digital
news
came
out
this
morning.
So
maybe
that
is
really
big
news
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
quite
trick
without
yet
because
I
didn't
whenever
I
was
in
the
telegram.
B
A
A
B
Be
really
interesting-
that's
very
that's
very,
very
similar
how
Second
Life
was
where
the
linden
dollar
has
I
think
it's
only
changed
by
maybe
two
percent
per
year
over
the
last
ten
plus
years
that
the
thing
has
been
running
or
fifteen
years
now.
So
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
It
seems
like
they
are
sort
of
following
that
same
second
life
model,
but
most
likely
decentralized,
where
some
central
entity
doesn't
have
control
yeah.
A
B
Carolina
I've
been
traveling
all
over
the
country,
I
was
in
Florida
and
I'm
in
North,
Carolina
and
finally,
I
didn't
kind
of
tired
of
traveling.
To
be
honest.
Finally,
I'll
be
back
the
first
week
of
July
and
then
I'm
not
traveling
for
a
long
time.
So
there'll
be
a
ton
of
new
cyber
glass
videos
coming
out.
We
have
a
lot
of
exciting
stuff
planned
like
I've
been
teasing,
so
it's
gonna
be
pretty
exciting,
July
and
then
I
think
an
exciting
few
months
to
wrap
up
the
end
of
the
year.
Awesome.
A
Anything
else
you
want
to
drop
for,
we
get
off,
I,
think.
B
A
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