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A
Welcome
to
episode
13
of
everything,
yes
I'm,
Zack
Gaul
and
I
CEO
data
analyst
at
ICO
alert
the
trusted
ICO
discovery
platform
visit,
icy
alert,
calm,
the
most
complete
calendar
of
all
active
and
upcoming
icos,
to
discover
to
the
latest
projects
and
opportunities
like
iOS,
io
and
I'm.
Here
today,
with
the
founder
of
icy
alert
and
now
CEO
of
safer
glass,
Rob
Finch.
Thank.
B
You
all
so
much
for
joining
us
for
yet
again
another
episode
of
everything.
Yes,
we
do
appreciate
the
feedback
and
comments
that
we
get
about
the
show
and
we
hope
you
continue
to
share
your
thoughts
and
opinions
so
that
we
can
continue
to
grow
and
improve.
If
you
enjoyed
this
week's
episode,
please
let
us
know
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liking,
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following
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or
wherever
else
you
may
be
listening
on
today's.
B
I'm
super
excited
to
talk
about
all
this,
but
before
we
get
started,
I
do
have
to
mention
that
this
podcast
is
not
sponsored,
we're
not
being
paid
to
record
it.
We're
just
two
people
that
are
super
excited
about
the
EOS
project
and
before
we
get
started
another
disclaimer,
both
Zak
call
and
I
do
hold
us
tokens,
but
this
podcast
should
not
be
construed
as
legal
financial,
tax,
professional
or
any
other
kind
of
advice.
A
All
right,
so
the
big
big
controversy,
big
talk
in
all
the
channels
which
have
kind
of
been
a
little
bit
dead
lately
with
with
a
market.
A
lot
of
people
are
quiet
now
the
markets
quiet,
but
the
talk
of
this
Ram.
It's
an
ongoing
thing,
it's
kind
of
been
a
pretty
big
issue
with
the
community
as
a
whole.
You
want
to
kind
of
give
your
take
on
it.
Yeah.
B
I
think,
first
to
explain
what
Ram
is
and
why
you
need
it.
So
Ram
is
one
of
the
three
resources
on
the
u.s.
networks.
You
have
CPU
computational
power
bandwidth
like
the
ability
to
send
transactions,
and
then
you
have
RAM
and
RAM
is
something
that,
if
you're
just
an
average
es
user,
you'll
never
really
need
to
buy
or
use
in
any
way,
but
it's
mainly
for
DAP
developers
to
store
information
on
the
chain.
So
this
could
be
storing
your
token
balance
that
could
be
storing.
You
know
something
from
a
video
game.
B
It's
just
storage
on
the
network
right
now
and
the
problem
that's
happening
right
now
is
that
there's
a
very
limited
amount
of
RAM
on
the
total
u.s.
network
about
64
gigabytes
across
all
the
different
blog
producers,
and
that's
artificially
limited
at
this
moment,
so
that
we
can
scale
up
in
the
future.
B
But
the
current
situation
is
basically
that
speculators,
because
you
can
buy
and
sell
ram
through
bank
Wars,
Ram
buying
and
selling
algorithm
speculators
bought
up,
basically
all
of
the
RAM
and
sent
the
price
to
just
an
astronomical
high
believe
it
to
the
20x
over
the
course
of.
Like
a
week
or
two
and
now
has
since
crashed
back
down
to
I,
think
8x
from
where
it
originally
started,
but
it's
still
very,
very
expensive
to
even
get
enough
RAM
to
open
up
a
new
years.
Account
I
think
it
peaked.
B
B
I
believe
it's
four
kilobytes
that
an
account
needs
to
actually
be
created
and
in
store
your
token
balances
and
sort
of
initialize
itself
on
the
network
and
everybody.
If
you
were
in
the
Genesis
snapshot.
You
were
given
that
for
free,
essentially
when
the
chain
launch.
But
if
you
wanna
make
a
new
account,
you
have
to
buy
that
additional
RAM.
So.
A
That's
kind
of
one
of
the
issues,
so
the
problem
is
the
the
price
is
very
high
forum,
so
the
cost
of
doing
business
increased
dramatically
from
what
people
were
expecting.
Everyone
developers
in
particular
expected
us
to
be
this
very
cheap,
felis,
zero
transaction
fee
platform
that
everyone
would
want
to
build
on,
but
this
Ram
is
kind
of
holding
things
back,
for
example,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
changed
recently,
but
whenever
the
network
launched
it
cost
to
do
an
airdrop
would
have
been
in
the
very,
very
low
thousands,
maybe
even
in
the
hundreds.
A
But
it's
currently
about
a
fifteen
thousand
dollar
cost
to
airdrop
tokens,
to
a
snapshot
of
the
entire
network
and
to
create
a
brand-new
account
is
around
15
dollars.
So
you're
asking
people
to
create
a
wallet
account
to
contribute
15
dollars.
So
that's
something
new
I!
Don't
think!
That's
that's
terrible
if
it
stayed
like
that
because
of
the
value
get
from
that
account
because
it
would
be
global,
like
eventually
you'd
use
that
account
across
many
different
websites
that
you
use.
I'm
gonna,
be
kind
of
like
your.
A
Your
universal
login
kind
of
like
a
Google
login
is
currently
or
your
Facebook
log,
and
that's
what
I
see
this
being
and
if
you
look
at
if
you've
used
scatter
wallet,
it
doesn't
really
have
a
lot
of
wallet
features.
I,
don't
like
you
can't
see
your
account
balance,
but
it
does
have
some
unique
features
where
you
can
give
it
your
address.
Your
full
name
and
I
really
think
in
the
future
that
your
universal
es
account
is
going
to
be
a
universal
login
for,
like
the
next
generation
of
web
3.0,
yeah.
B
I
totally
agree
with
that
I
mean
basically,
once
you
get
an
EU
s
account
you
then
have
free
transaction
fees,
they're
free
transactions
forever.
You
can
send
as
many
transactions
as
you
like
up
to
a
certain
amount
every
day.
But
beyond
that.
Also
to
your
point,
if
say,
one
big
new
daffy
comes
out
and
they're,
giving
out
user
accounts
for
free.
That
person
doesn't
need
to
go
to
the
next
app
and
set
up
a
new
account.
They
could
just
use
that
same
a
u.s.
account
across
every
single
dab
through
they'll
ever
use.
You.
A
Just
mentioned
free
accounts,
so
I
just
read
this
morning
on
Quinn
Telegraph,
there's
a
universal
wallet.
I,
don't
know
anything
about
this
I'm,
not
saying
to
use
this
because
I
don't
know
if
they're,
legit
or
not,
but
infinite
o
wallet
put
out
an
announcement
that
they
have
a
universal
wallet.
That's
going.
It
already
does
support
the
EOS
Network,
along
with
other
tokens,
but
they're
allow
they're
offering
free
account
creation
for
new
EOS
token
holders
through
their
app
and
it's
on
a
first-come,
first-served
basis.
A
They
probably
have
this
budgeted,
but
if
you
weren't
part
of
the
done
a
part
of
the
Genesis
snapshot
like
Rob
mentioned,
and
you
didn't
get
a
free
account,
it's
kind
of
confusing
right
now,
because
you
need
an
account
to
create
an
account
yeah.
You
need
I
think
like
what
two
years
to
create
an
Aggie
believe
it's
about
two
es.
A
If
someone
who
had
tokens
on
an
exchange
and
wanted
to
get
them
off
of
an
exchange
for
them
to
create
a
new
wallet,
they
would
have
to
kind
of
know
someone
else
with.
He
is
to
create
a
wallet
for
them
a
it's.
It's
really
messed
up
right
now.
We
still
are
in
the
early
stages
of
this
chain,
like
it's
been
less
than
two
months.
It's
been
one
month,
one
month,
yeah.
A
B
Have
been
a
lot
of
different
solutions
proposed
some
people
in
there
a
couple
that
I
really
like
and
I
kind
of
want
to
go
over
those,
so
one
that
I've
seen
proposed
is
basically
eliminating
profit
from
RAM.
So
in
the
same
way
that
right
now,
if
I
staked
any
OS
for
CPU
and
bandwidth
on
my
account
so
that
I
can
send
transactions
when
I
unstick
that
CPU
and
bandwidth
I
get
back
to
Fulton
EO.
So
I
don't
get
less
or
more,
depending
on
how
many
other
people
are
staking
and
I.
B
Think
a
similar
model
for
RAM
could
potentially
solve
that
where,
if
I
stake
to
EOS
to
create
my
account
for
RAM
and
then
I
want
to
unstick
that
later,
I
would
get
back
that
exact
to
gyros
by
releasing
that
RAM,
so
that
the
price
would
effectively
it's
not
that
it
would
remain
fixed,
but
the
the
ability
to
profit
or
lose
money
from
buying
and
selling
Ram
would
basically
be
eliminated
through
that
smart
contract.
So.
A
Don't
think
anyone
expected
this
level
of
speculation,
I,
think
people
expected
the
price
to
increase,
but
not
to
this
level,
and
that
kind
of
brings
me
to
block
producers
role
in
the
RAM
market
that
there
have
been
some
block
producers
who
and
it's
transparent
on
the
blockchain.
You
see
all
their
transactions
who
have
participated
in
this
speculation
and
profited
yeah.
What
are
your
thoughts
on
that?
Has
cypher
glass
done
anything
like
that.
B
We
haven't
bought
or
sold
any
Ram.
It's
something
I,
don't
think
block
producers
should
really
engage
in
unless
they
have
a
legitimate
reason
to
do
it.
Like
the
thing
about
being
a
block
producer
as
an
active
block
producer,
you
control
the
amount
of
RAM
that
gets
added
to
the
ecosystem.
You'll
know
when
an
upgrade
is
happening.
You'll
know
when
a
potential
downgrade
is
happening
or
an
upgrade
gets
cancelled,
and
to
have
that
sort
of
insider
information
is
something
that
I
don't
think.
Bp
should
use
to
profit.
You.
A
B
Said
potentially
now,
I
think
the
potential
for
that
is
decreasing,
but
I
still
think
now
a
lot
of
these
Ram
discussions
are
happening
in
private,
like
hey.
When
shall
we
upgrade
Ram?
What's
the
solution
for
Ram?
So
at
this
point
I
would
say
it's
probably
not
okay
for
BPS
to
speculate
on
it,
but
I
think
in
the
future,
to
your
point,
as
this
becomes
more
transparent,
everybody
will
have
sort
of
the
same
information.
A
Who
did
speculate
at
this
point
because
one
when
the
network
first
launched,
it
was
probably
a
good
idea
to
buy
RAM
cuz.
You
knew
it
was
gonna,
go
up
right
but
like
what
what's
going
up
like
20%,
50%,
double
and
I,
think
that
was
expected
from
everyone.
So
I've
read
about
some
different
BP's
I'm,
not
I'm
gonna
mention
them
on
here
that
profit
like
six
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
part
of
the
reason
was
because
they
intended
to
do
an
airdrop
cuz.
B
They
needed
the
RAM
anyway
well,
and
that's
the
thing:
it's
really
impossible
to
prove
whether
our
block
producer
is
speculating
on
RAM
or
buying
it
for
some
other
purpose.
They
could
have
a
major
dat
plan
that
they
need
to.
You
know:
do
air
drops,
they
could
be
buying
a
bunch
of
RAM
up
front
to
give
people
free
user
accounts.
So
ultimately
it's
something
that
I,
don't
think
can
really
be
enforced.
It's
just
something
that
I
would
encourage
people
to
to
continue
to
monitor
and
look
out
for
and.
A
The
BP
I'm
talking
about
I,
don't
blame
them,
so
they
bought
the
rammer
early.
They
wanted
to
do
an
airdrop
with
it
and
then
it
went
way
up
and
they
knew
it
hit
an
insane
price
and
they
knew
that
that
price
wouldn't
last
so
they
sold
half
the
RAM
that
they
plan
to
use
at
a
very
high
price
point.
They
made
six
hundred
thousand
dollar
profit.
But
could
you
really
blame
them
for
that
right?
B
Well
and
those
block
producers
didn't
there
was
no
insider
information
in
that
trades
because
we
hadn't
even
been
planning
RAM
upgrades
at
that,
and
nobody
could
have
expected
what
happened
yeah.
Exactly
so
I
mean
I,
don't
think
anybody
should
be
punished
or
there
should
be
some
kind
of
repercussion
for
this
I
think
it's
just
something
to
keep
in
mind
so
that
when
Ram
is
upgraded
and
when
these
proposals
are
put
into
place,
that
people
just
keep
an
eye
on
it
and
make
sure
nothing
fishy
is
happening
so.
A
Who
decided
on
the
64
gigabytes
and
what
are
some
of
the
proposed
solutions?
So
if
your
solution
doesn't
work
and
yeah
I
guess
playing
devil's
advocate
on
your
solution,
is
it's
really
hard
to
change
something
once
it's
already
in
motion?
Because
what
do
you
do
for
the
people
who
bought
Ram
at
its
peak
and
our
50%
down
right
now
and
then
you're
gonna,
just
change
the
game
on
them
and
say
well,
there's
no
chance
of
it
ever
going
back
up
because
I
changed
the
rules.
B
So
what's
happening
with
this,
is
that
the
eos
price
is
actually
being
hurt
because
of
ram
speculation,
where,
if
you
d
commoditize
ram-
and
you
basically
give
people
their
allocated
percentage
of
ram
based
on
the
amount
of
tokens
they
hold.
So
if
you
hold
1
percent
of
the
tokens,
you
get
1
percent
of
the
ram.
I
think
something
like
that
or
some
kind
of
hybrid
solution
would
actually
then
see
a
lot
of
the
the
RAM
price
increase.
B
A
A
A
B
This
I
think
these
are
all
like
solutions
that
are
being
proposed
to
actually
change
the
way
RAM
works
and
to
your
point,
if
somebody
is
already
in
sort
of
the
Yoast,
Bank
or
algorithm
Ram
game,
they
could
be
hurt
by
this
by
changing
it.
But
what's
interesting
is
that
there
are
actually
other
software
solutions
that
are
coming
out
in
the
near
future,
like
before
the
end
of
the
year.
That
will
also
dramatically
increase
the
supply
of
RAM
not
on
the
main
chain.
So.
A
So
side
chains
yeah-
that
was
the
big
thing
when,
when
block
one
introduced
the
the
Bank
or
Ram
protocol,
they
mentioned
it
how
one
the
price
could
fluctuate
random,
like
at
crazy
volatility,
which
everyone
knew
about
getting
into
this.
So
they
mentioned
that,
but
they
also
mentioned
that
side
chains
are
gonna,
have
their
own
Ram
allotments.
So
if
the
main
chain
Ram
is
one
a
OS
per
kilobyte
which
almost
hit
already,
then
a
side
chain
might
be
selling
it
for
a
dollar,
a
dollar
or
less
per
kilobyte.
But
I
don't
understand
to
this
points.
A
B
I'll,
try
to
add
some
color
there,
so
if
you
think
of
a
side
chain
is
basically
just
like
a
branch
off
of
a
tree.
So
if
the
side
chain
is
like
the
core
trunk
of
a
tree,
all
of
the
sorry
if
the
main
chain
is
the
core
trunk
of
a
tree.
All
of
these
side
chains
are
kind
of
branches
that
connect
back
to
the
main
tree.
So
the
way
that
this
all
works
is
through
a
software
solution
called
inter
blockchain,
communication
and
Danna
said
they
have
a
plan
for
building.
B
B
That's
where
all
of
that
sort
of
value
creation
will
happen,
and
then
you
can
just
run
your
actual
DAP
if
it
doesn't
need
to
be
on
the
main
chain,
if
you're,
okay,
with
that
three-second
delay
of
going
from
a
side
chain
back
to
the
main
chain,
you
could
sort
of
isolate
your
DAP
in
this
side
chain,
but
still
connected
to
the
main
chain
and
use
your
own
pool
of
RAM.
So,
to
give
you
an
idea,
every
pedia,
for
example,
could
launch
on
their
own
side
chain,
run
all
of
their
account
functions
run.
B
You
know
upgrades
and
votes
and
user
proposals
through
that
side
chain,
but
then
the
token
would
live
sort
of
as
a
hybrid
between
the
main
chain
and
the
side
chain,
and
you
could
transfer
back
and
forth
at
any
moment
and
from
a
user's
perspective.
They
wouldn't
even
really
know
they're
using
a
side
chain.
It
would
just
feel
like
one
big
combined
major
but.
B
A
B
Oh
absolutely
not
and
I
think
a
lot
of
these
people
if
you
think
about
different
incentives
for
running
side
chains,
if
a
side
chain
like
ever
a
pedia
or
a
decentralized
facebook
or
whatever
that
dap
may
be
by
running
that
side
chain
that
may
even
host
multiple
daps
you're,
effectively
adding
value
to
the
US
network,
which
in
theory
will
increase
the
u.s.
token
price
and
since
block
producers
get
paid
in
u.s.
tokens,
they're
incentivized
to
do
whatever
they
can
like
run
side
chains
in
order
to
benefit
that
token
price
and
then
make
more
money.
B
And
then,
as
they
make
more
money,
they
can
reinvest
more
money
into
hosting
more
side
chains.
And
it's
kind
of
this
feedback
loop
again
of
block
reduce
you're,
supporting
more
and
more
side
chains.
But
the
cool
part
is
that
from
the
users
perspective,
they
should
really
never
know:
hey
I'm
on
a
side.
Tuner,
hey
I'm,
on
a
main
chain,
since
a
side
chain
does
not
add
more
hust
tokens.
B
A
A
The
the
RAM
chart
in
front
of
me
yesterday,
for
example,
there
was
a
total
of
seven
hundred
and
eighty-two
thousand
dollars
in
USD
traded
on
the
RAM
market
in
one
day
at
24
hours
Wow.
So
sometimes,
whenever
you
make
this
volume,
calculation
and
I've
read
this
about
crypto
exchanges
is
sometimes,
if
there's
a
buyer
and
the
seller.
B
A
B
We
get
that
negative
inflation
or
deflation,
which
is
pretty
cool
interesting.
So
the
the
RAM
is
something
I
think
that
if
you
think
about
a
OS
in
its
current
state,
even
though
this
is
technically
us,
1.0
I
think
we're
gonna,
look
back
on
a
significant
portion
of
this
year
and
say:
okay,
that
was
kind
of
the
beta
phase
of
years,
and
that's
how
I'm
looking
at
it.
B
If
you
think
about
it,
we're
still
on
the
single
threaded
implementation,
which
is
like
a
single
lane
road
that
can
only
process
so
many
transactions,
but
once
multi-threading
comes
out
later
this
year,
then
we're
all
of
a
sudden,
a
multi
Lane
superhighway
and
can
increase
transactions.
And
then
you
add
on
side
chains
for
more
transactions
and
more
ram,
pools
and
I.
Think
as
the
platform
kind
of
matures
and
adds
on
these
more
advanced
features.
B
B
A
B
B
So
if
you
think
about
all
of
the
improvements,
not
just
this
year
with
multi-threading
and
side
chains,
but
over
the
next
10
years,
all
of
the
features
and
improvements
that
they'll
be
able
to
add
I
mean
the
use
that
we
see
even
a
year
from
now
or
six
months
from
now
is
gonna,
be
dramatically
different
than
the
use
that
we
see
today.
So.
B
A
We've
talked
about
the
SVC,
that's
what
I
was
getting
to
is,
if
there's
a
billion
dollars
out
there,
how
much
has
been
committed
at
this
point,
750
million
750
million
dollars
has
been
committed.
There's
only
been
2
announced
projects,
the
effort
that
when
we
talked
about
last
time,
the
Second
Life
2.0
type,
oh
yeah,.
A
A
B
B
A
Day
one
I
remember
last
June,
every
every
eath
diehard
was
talking
so
much
on
the
lock
one
for
like
selling
their
eath
on
a
regular
basis.
So
when
the
ICL
launched
I
believe
eath
is
probably
around
like
200
with
with
the
bull
market
we
saw
at
the
end
of
the
year
that
might
have
looked
stupid
of
them.
They
sold
all
this
eath
between
two
three
even
less
than
two
hundred
dollars
at
different
points,
but
then
it
went
all
the
way
up
to
a
thousand
right,
but
they
were
selling
the
whole
way.
So
they.
B
A
On
a
daily
weekly
monthly
basis,
the
thousand
dollar
eath
also-
and
everyone
complained
about
it,
but
now
in
this
market
it
looks
genius,
oh
absolutely,
because
they
they
they,
they
offered
to
fund
the
billion
dollars
of
DAPs
and
that
wasn't
in
tokens
that
was
in
dollars,
yeah.
So
in
a
bear
market,
it's
actually
going
to
benefit
the
the
building
of
this
dap
community,
because
they're
actually
able
to
invest
in
their
infrastructure
at
a
rock-bottom
price
for
the
next
market.
Nobody
doubts,
there's
gonna
be
another
bull
market.
It
could
be
in
a
year.
A
It
could
be
in
a
month
it
could
be
in
a
day
or
a
week.
We
know
what's
going
to
happen,
but
we
don't
know
when
it
could
be
multiple
years,
but
we're
gonna
be
ready
for
and
it's
gonna
give
a
huge
opportunity
to
these
funded
apps
because
they
got
a
cash
influx
at
a
perfect
time
to
buy.
Oh,
definitely,
it's
a
buying
opportunity.
The
only
people,
it's
not
a
buying
opportunity
for
people
who
are
completely
already
invested
in
right,
I,
don't
have
extra
money
to
buy.
B
B
Well,
our
tech
advisor
at
Seifer
glass
is
a
guy
named
Jesse,
proud
man
who
runs
a
hedge
fund,
called
Strix,
Leviathan
and
they've,
been
you
know
talking
about
sort
of
this
problem,
this
ICO
problem
of
people
who
they
don't
have
a
treasury
management
solution.
In
any
way
they
don't
have
somebody
who
can
come
in
and
say:
hey,
sell,
30%
in
the
USD
move
20%
into
Bitcoin
keep
this
percent
in
efj,
and
because
of
that,
a
lot
of
these
icos
that
may
have
raised
30
40
50
million
dollars
now
have
maybe
10
20
million.
A
B
A
B
A
B
Yeah
over
thirty
percent
thirty
point:
seven
percent,
which
means
307
million
tokens
out
of
the
billion,
have
been
voted
and
that
does
not
include
block
100
million.
So
these
are
three
hundred
million
tokens
that
people
out
there
own,
maybe
they're
whales,
maybe
they're
small
people,
but
that
amount
being
voted
after
the
15
percent
unlocked
is
something
that
honestly
surprised
me
and
it's
really
good
to
see.
There's.
A
Some
interesting
graphs
you
can
find
there's
a
couple
of
them.
I'm
looking
at
one
I
just
saw
it
link
today,
a
Nutella
game
channel,
yes,
Titan
I,
think
they're
a
block
producer
I,
don't
think
they're,
tough
they're,
not
definitely
not
top
21,
but
there's
other
tools
like
it.
We
could
see
like
a
bar
graph
where
it
has
its
like
multiple
colors
and
it
kind
of
shows
you
all
the
Whale
votes
and
where
they're
going
and
pretty
much
20
out
of
the
top
21
current
bps
have
giant
on
the
graph
I'm.
A
Looking
at
blue
lines
from
the
the
BitFenix
voting
pool,
which
it's
not
just
one
voter,
it's
it's
all
of
the
people
on
their
exchange.
They
have
kind
of
complicated
way
of
voting,
but
at
least
they're
allowing
their
users
to
vote
and
the
the
top
21
bp's
got
shuffled
up
a
good
bit.
Recently,
oh
yeah
Seifer
glass
fell
out
of
the
top
21
yeah
and
you
have
some
ideas
behind
why
you
want
to
so.
B
A
little
bit,
the
only
vote
that
we
lost
was
so
right
now,
if
you
think
about
it,
we've
a
little
over
37
million
votes
at
the
time
when
we
were
I,
think
number
6
or
7
out
of
the
21.
We
had
57
million,
so
an
extra
20
million.
What
we
have
now
and
that
20
million
came
exclusively
from
BitFenix.
But
what's
interesting
is
that
in
the
last
shuffling
last
week
that
20
million
went
away
completely
so
that
we
now
have
0
votes
from
BitFenix.
B
B
cafe,
block
or
somebody
like
that,
where
Biff
Phenix
didn't
properly
record
votes
for
their
BP
and
had
set
them
back
millions
of
votes,
and
then
they
fixed
I'm
back
we're
not
sure
if
something's
going
on
where
we
jumped
from
twenty20,
because
a
big
whale
unloaded
us
or
there's
a
technical
issue
where
we're
not
showing
up
in
that
system.
But
we've
reached
out
to
Biffen
X
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what's
going
on,
we
reached
out
to
Paulo
on
telegram
and
are
kind
of
waiting
to
to
hear
men
on
that.
A
Really
blows
my
mind
who
some
of
these
bps
are
in
the
top
21
ones
that
don't
really
contribute
to
the
community
much
yeah
at
least
not
on
a
lot
of
them
are
Chinese,
so
maybe
in
the
Asian
telegram
channels,
they're
doing
a
bunch,
I,
don't
know,
but
there's
just
so
many
good
ones
like
gray
mass
likes,
I.
Think
cypher
glass
is
great.
I
cuz
I
follow
you
guys,
I
know
what
you
guys
are
doing
and
adding
to
the
community.
A
B
Great
mass,
not
top
20,
they
totally
deserve
to
be
there.
I
mean
if
you
think
about
the
reason
why
we
hit
15%
it's
because
of
gray
mass
and
their
wallet
that
they
put
out
and
now,
even
with
their
wallet
I
just
put
out
a
voting
tutorial
or
a
video
tutorial
on
how
to
make
a
voter
proxy.
The
sort
of
you
know
vote
on
behalf
of
others
that
they
don't
want
to
be
involved
in
the
voting
process,
and
that
again
is
using
gray
mass
and
an
updated
version
where
they
added
a
ton
of
new
features.
B
The
ability
to
buy
and
sell
Ram
the
ability
to
make
a
voter
proxy.
The
ability
to
delegate
your
vote
to
somebody
else's
proxy,
so
they've
continued
to
be
heads
down.
Building
this
tool.
That
I
think
has
been
instrumental,
if
not
sort
of
the
main
reason
that
that
we
hit
that
50
percent
unlock
and
now
have
30
percent
of
tokens
voted.
A
A
B
Still
getting
it
originally
and
the
beauty
of
this
system
is
that
we're
still
getting
paid,
we're
getting
I
think
three
to
four
hundred
us
a
day
now
as
a
standby,
based
on
the
37
million
votes
that
we
do
have
we're
just
not
getting
paid
that
that
active.
So
I'm
happy
to
see
this
honestly
that
there
are
other
people
that
are
getting
a
shot.
It
was
just
interesting
to
see
us
in
gray,
mass
and
us
Amsterdam
and
sort
of
like
a
group
of
six
that
were
all
pushed
up
into
the
21.
B
At
the
same
time,
then
all
got
pushed
out,
so
it
almost
feels
like
somebody
at
BitFenix,
whether
it's
pathetic
themselves
or
whales.
There
that
are
sort
of
getting
together
are
doing
this
intentionally
to
spread
that
BP
money
around
which
ultimately
for
the
long-term
health
of
the
network,
is
a
very,
very
good
yeah.
We
need
at
least.
A
50
good
block
cruisers
at
all
time,
absolutely
because
anything
had
happened
for
one
to
fall
off
or
if
you
have
a
bad
act
and
you
really
got
to
get
them
out
like
you
want
to
have
good
backup
nodes
and
there's
also
different
features
and
functionalities
of
the
backup
nodes.
I
can't
think
of
anything
off
to
top
my
head,
but
I
recall
a
couple
months
ago,
whenever
I
was
reading
about
the
ipfs,
which
is
the
decentralized
file
storage
right,
that
a
lot
of
that
might
be
handled
by
the
backup
nodes.
A
B
Oh
absolutely
and
when,
when
multi-threading
comes
out,
and
it's
a
much
bigger
task
for
the
active
block
producers
to
actually
produce
blocks
and
keep
all
these
different
threads
online,
there
are
going
to
be
things
that
need
to
be
delegated
out
to
the
standbys
like
ipfs
and
storing
those
file
hashes
and
making
sure
all
that
still
work.
So
I
think
it'll
be
kind
of
interesting
to
see
how
the
system
matures
and
also
I
think
as
more
people
vote.
B
A
Think
my
solution,
part
of
the
solution,
is
to
have
I.
Think
I
mentioned
this
on
the
last
show
like
the
more
tokens
you
have
at
a
certain
point,
the
power
lessons
for
each
token.
So
if
I
have
a
million
tokens,
my
first
500,000
might
be
full
votes,
but
then
my
next
five
hundred
thousand
might
gradually
become
less
and
less
powerful
and
that
would
be
on
a
per
account
basis.
A
A
Or
your
Mac,
so
so,
if
that's
created,
where
you
could
have
an
ID,
an
online
identity
that
was
totally
separate
from
us,
you
don't
even
need
a
state
ID
to
create
your
identity,
because
if
it
as
a
fingerprint
yeah,
if
that
were
created,
then
it
would
still
be
possible.
Yeah
I
get
I
could
have
a
friend.
Do
it.
I
could
have
multiple
accounts,
but
it
would
make
it
more
difficult,
oh,
and
it
would
prove
that
you're
a
bad
actor,
because
you're
going
out
of
your
way
to
create
multiple
accounts
to
keep
your
vote
power
up.
A
B
Lot
of
that,
they
dan
has
also
mentioned
before
that
he's
he's
working
on
some
new
consensus
mechanism,
which
will
integrate
some
kind
of
ID
system
like
that,
so
whether
it's
their
new
Hardware
wallet
that
comes
out
that'll
use
your
fingerprint
in
your
face
or
their
social
network.
That
they'll
eventually
launch
I
think
maybe
one
of
those
things
will
be
integrated
into
this
somehow,
but
ultimately
will
be
up
to
the
community
to
vote
in
a
change
like
that.
So
so.
A
B
A
That's
why
it's
good
that
we
have
will
have
account
recovery
features.
Definitely
because,
if
you
do
something
like
that,
like
let's
say
you
just
used
your
I
use,
my
I
use
my
face
to
unlock
my
iPhone.
My
face
got
mangled
up
enough.
I
couldn't
unlock,
there's,
obviously
on
an
iPhone
about
you
type
in
your
password
right,
but
if
we
had
an
ID
system
on
the
blockchain
that
was
so
powerful,
you
couldn't
have
like
a
backup
password.
You'd
have
to
rely
on
your
account.
Recovery
definitely
I
mean.
B
B
B
So
it's
one
of
the
unique
features.
Now,
if
you
you
check
out
es
42s
website
at
us
for
two
io,
they
have
some
good
tutorials
there
on
how
to
do
it.
It's
a
little
bit
too
tech
savvy
at
the
moment,
but
I
do
believe.
Gray.
Mass
is
working
on
a
way
to
make
this
very
simple
through
their
their
user
interface
wall.
There's.
A
B
A
Other
voting
ongoings
is
the
proxies.
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
issues
with
with
voting
right
now
is
the
general
public
it
to
make
an
informed
decision.
You
have
to
do
a
lot
of
due
diligence
and
research,
there's
prey
at
least
a
hundred
BP
candidates,
but
only
there's
only
the
top
twenty
one
and
then
to
get
a
decent
payout.
You
probably
need
to
be
in
at
the
top
thirty
thirty-five
I
believe
its
top
50
ish
right
now,
gonna
get
a
payout,
but
it's
a
lot
of
research
and
you're
getting
nothing
in
return.
A
So
you
hear
about
these
Ram
speculators,
ten
Xing
20
Xing
there
there
is
tax,
but
then
a
little
Johnny,
o
Neos
and
he's
just
taking
his
votes
to
two
es:
Canada
safer
glass.
He
has
New
York,
staking
his
votes,
locking
him
in
he's
got
to
keep
up
on
his
research,
make
sure
there's
no
new
candidates
that
he
wants
to
vote
in
he's
getting
nothing
for
that.
A
Oh
yeah,
so
there's
voter
proxies
coming
out
daily
right
now
and
that's
why
I
mentioned
that
cos
tightened
tool
because
they're,
the
only
ones
I've
seen
that
has
a
stat
for
a
percentage
of
proxy
votes
as
it
stands,
1.7
percent
of
all
of
the
votes
on
on
us
io
are
being
voted
by
a
proxy.
Now.
What
a
proxy
is
is
you're,
putting
the
trust
of
your
voting
power
to
someone
else
yeah.
So
if
I
don't
have
time
to
research,
the
BOC
producers
myself
but
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
Rob
running
the
proxy
because
he's
VP
right.
A
A
If
you
trust
someone
with
your
votes,
you're
saying,
okay
I'm
staking
my
hundred
years
tokens
to
this
proxy
and
I
trust
them
to
vote
for
whoever
they
think
the
best
of
twenty
Twenty.
Twenty
one.
Thirty
block
producer
candidates
are
right,
so
you're
putting
that
trust
in
someone
else
and
that
I
think
that's
going
to
increase
as
we
go,
and
that
should
increase
voter
participation
and.
B
Out
a
video
in
the
sever
glass
YouTube
channel,
just
youtube.com,
slash,
cypher,
glass
or
just
search
the
name,
but
there's
a
voter
proxy
tutorial
on
how
to
set
it
up
in
the
gray
mass
wallet
again.
But
it's
super
easy.
It
takes
about
30
seconds
to
actually
set
it
up,
and
then
you
can
get
your
friends
or
other
people
in
chat
rooms
to
delegate
their
votes
to
you
and
I've
seen
one
really
good
proxy.
So
far
from
a
guy
named
ash
Oro
his
twitter
handle
is
at
a
sh
e
underscore
Oro.
B
A
B
What's
interesting
with
all
this
Ram
speculation,
even
though
people
are
buying
it
they're
not
actually
utilizing
it,
meaning
they're,
not
storing
data
in
that
Ram.
But
what
happened
is
that
through
legitimate
air
drops
and
apps
another
usage,
we
actually
hit
one
gigabyte
of
RAM
consumption
and
what
happened
was
a
significant
amount
of
block
producers.
Some
of
the
active,
a
and
standby
actually
went
down
because
they
didn't
have
their
nodes
configured
properly.
B
A
I
think
we're
gonna
see
a
lot
of
continuous
mistakes
made
and
I
just
hope
that
the
voters
kind
of
get
rid
of
these
yeah.
These
bad
I'm,
not
saying
they're
bad
actors,
because
I,
don't
think
they're
bad
intentions
right,
but
they're
being
sloppy
and
lazy.
Oh
absolutely
yeah
I
would
agree
with
that
you're
getting
paid
daily
and
yes,
the
community's,
putting
their
faith
in
you
to
produce
blocks
and
not
break
the
damn
chain.
Yeah
there's
already
enough!
That's.
B
B
Let
me
pull
up
see
how
many
I
have
so
far,
but
the
good
news
is
that
ever
pedia,
the
high
Q
token
drop-
that
was
the
first
company
that
was
ever
funded
through
an
ESP
C
partner.
Mike
Novogratz
is
galaxy
digital.
They
said
that
their
air
drop
is
quote
imminent,
which
means
they
should
be
dropping
any
day
now
they
have
not
released
an
official
date.
I
think
they're,
probably
just
gonna,
start
dropping
and
go
from
there.
They're.
B
Yeah,
it
looks
like
I
have
about
ten
different
airdrop
tokens
that
I've
gotten
from
the
Genesis
snapshot,
and
there
are
ton
more
that
are
actually
being
supported
by
an
exchange
called
Saints.
It's
not
decentralized,
unfortunately,
but
at
CH
AI
NCE
com.
They
also
did
an
airdrop
on
us
with
their
CET
token,
that's
trading
there
for
I,
think
about
five
cents,
but
they've
indicated
their
intention
to
support
a
lot
of
other
airdrops
like
karma,
like
IQ
like
a
lot
of
these.
So
it
should
be
interesting
to
see.
A
I
saw
those
show
up
in
my
account,
because
I
had
some
on
there
from
the
snapshot,
so
that
was
pretty
cool
you
can't
you
could
just
withdrawal
them.
You
mentioned
that
exchanges
at
a
market
for
buying
and
selling
these
tokens,
because
a
lot
of
people
have
these
new
airdrop
tokens.
Now
some
people
want
to
hold
them
and
see
what
happens.
Give
this
DAP
a
chance
and
some
just
want
to
get
rid
of
them
yeah.
But
is
there
a
market
that
you
know
of
with
any
liquidity,
not.
B
Yet
other
than
the
CET
token
on
their
own
chains,
exchange
which
has
a
pretty
significant
amount
of
liquidity,
I
think
with
several
million
dollars
a
day
in
volume,
which
is
pretty
good.
You
could
sell
that
there,
but
otherwise
there's
really
no
place
to
sell
these
yet
and
I,
like
your
theory
that
you
were
talking
about
before
the
podcast,
if
you
imagine
that
so.
A
B
A
A
By
$7
and
that's
how
many
ears
tokens
Oh
1%
of
that
we're
burnt
or
not
burned,
but
set
aside
right
now.
Imagine
if
those
tokens
were
distributed
evenly
by
by
by
a
stake
weight
of
voters
and-
and
that
could
happen
and
didn't
even
add
it
to
that
and
mentioned
something
about
a
decentralized
exchange
if
it
were
created.
A
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
so
if
the
eos
blockchain
like
community
is
able
to
generate
profits
in
some
way,
which
is
right
now,
the
the
name
market
for
the
account
names
on
there,
12
characters
one's
being
auctioned
every
single
day,
yeah
there's
the
RAM
trading
fees
which
are
currently
going
and
then
we're
gonna
see
some
Dex's
pop
up
here
soon,
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
get
to
with
those
tokens
is
there
we
know?
Yes,
finex
is
coming
yeah
and
we
could
assume
block.
A
1
is
probably
working
on
bitshares
2.0,
but
we
don't
know
officially.
But
when
that
all
happens,
all
of
these
trading
fees
are
gonna
just
be
put
in
to
a
fund,
and
we
already
have
a
worker
proposal
fund
to
fund
other
stuff.
So
what's
all
these
fees
gonna
go
towards
and
they
could
very
well
be
distributed
to
staked
voters.
Yeah.
A
B
A
B
A
B
I've
seen
it
happen
a
lot
and
the
worst
bear
market
was
in
2013
to
2014,
and
the
main
thing
I
say
to
people
then,
is
just:
do
research
start
to
learn?
There
are
a
lot
of
people
out
there
who
are
only
trading
based
on
what
they
read
based
on
what
they're
reading
articles
you
can
take
this
time
now
and
you
don't
have
to
focus
on
the
price
every
day.
It's
actually
learn
how
this
tech
works
learn.
What
a
Merkel
tree
is
learn.
B
How
delegated
proof
of
stake
is
different
from
proof
of
work,
learn
how
Bitcoin
works,
learn
how
a
token
that
you
hate
works
and
maybe
you'll
end
up
actually
liking
it,
but
go
out
there
and
learn
and
it'll
be
a
lot
easier
for
you
to
sort
of
remain
calm
during
times
when
the
market
is
down.
When
you
know
that
the
core
fundamental
technology
of
the
coin
that
you
own,
whether
it's
us
or
something
else,
is
solid,
you
don't
have
to
worry
about.
B
A
Market
won't
stay
down
forever,
Queen
based
custody,
just
officially
launched
I,
don't
remember,
there's
a
week
or
two
weeks
ago,
but
the
minimum
requirements
a
million
dollars
of
funds.
They
already
have
I,
think
50
customers
and
that's
gonna
grow.
We
talked
about
in
previous
episodes.
All
it
takes
is
for
pension
funds
and
retirement
funds,
401ks
to
start
hedging
a
quarter
of
a
percent,
maybe
even
less
of
their
total
funds
into
a
cryptocurrency
index.
That's
all
it's
gonna
take
for
this
thing
to
go
to
all-new,
all-time
highs,
and
that
might
not
happen.
B
B
Oh
and
none
of
it
was
there
none
of
the
institutional
support
was
there.
None
of
the
DAP
developers
were
there,
but
now
we
know
crypto
is
not
going
anywhere.
This
is
here
to
stay.
It's
here
to
disrupt
more
industries
than
we
can
even
comprehend
at
this
moment
and
I
think
that
is
the
best
part
about
all.
This
is
that
we
know
Kryptos
here
to
stay.
It's
just
a
matter
of
time.
I.
A
Understand
I
think
that's
a
good
spot
to
wrap
up
actually
we'll
be
back
next
week.
We're
going
a
trip
this
weekend
with
the
company
Robb's
joining
us,
even
though
he
think
we
mentioned
in
a
previous
episode,
he's
not
here
that
I
co-lead
on
a
day-to-day
role
he's
focused
on
safer
glass,
but
he
is
coming
on.
The
trip
with
us
it'd
be
nice
to
see
him
again
since
we're
not
in
the
office
every
day
together
anymore.
We
look
forward
to
talk
to
you
guys
again
next
week.
A
Please
comment
tweet
us
reach
out
and
telegram
what
you
want
us
to
talk
about.
That's
why
we
focus
so
much
on
RAM
this
week
we
had
a
lot
of
requests
for
that.
What
we'll
talk
we'll
talk
about
whatever
you
guys
want
to
hear
you
can
have
a
block
producer
perspective
which
I
enjoy
talking
to
rob
about
this
stuff
and
tune
in
next
week,
guys
once
again,
I'm
Zack,
Gaul
I'm,
Rob
Finch,
and
this
is
everything
yes.