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A
Welcome
to
everything
oh
s---,
I'm,
Zack,
Gaul
and
I
CEO
data
analyst
at
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alert.
The
trusted
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platform
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active
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upcoming,
I
ciose
to
discover
the
latest
projects
and
opportunities
like
yo
s,
io,
and
I'm
here
today,
with
the
founder
of
IC,
o
alert
and
CEO
of
block
producer,
cypher,
glass,
Rob
Finch.
Thank.
B
We
get
started
I
do
need
to
mention
that
this
is
not
a
sponsor
podcasts.
A
call
and
I
are
just
too
excited
members
of
the
US
community
who,
as
a
matter
of
disclosure,
do
hold
use
tokens
ourselves.
In
addition,
please
do
not
take
this
podcast
as
legal
professional,
financial
tax
or
any
other
kind
of
advice.
We're
just
two
people
talking
about
heõs
and
you
should
always
do
your
own
research
before
making
any
decisions.
A
B
The
same
time,
people
don't
know
an
ETF
is
an
exchange-traded
fund.
It's
basically
a
fund
that
holds
assets,
usually
stocks,
commodities
or
bonds,
but
in
this
case
would
be
holding
Bitcoin
waiting
on
it
to
get
approved
by
the
United
States
SEC,
so
that
people
can,
you
know,
add
Bitcoin
to
their
retirement
portfolios,
their
401k
stuff,
like
that,
so
there
was
an
ETF
that
was
declined
a
couple
months
ago
and
ETF
declined
a
year
ago.
Now
this
ETF
decision
has
just
been
delayed,
so
we'll
know
in
September
whether
or
not
it
gets
approved.
The.
B
A
The
fact
that
it
got
delayed
was
not
unexpected.
Now
a
lot
of
people
were
predicting.
That
was
gonna,
get
delayed
multiple
times,
and
we
wouldn't
even
have
like
a
decision
until
next
early
next
year,
right
so
the
the
market
sentiment,
it
changes
on
a
dime,
it's
crazy
when,
when
Bitcoin
went
up
40
percent
in
like
two
weeks
not
too
long
ago,
everyone
thought
that
was
completely
normal.
C
B
B
It's
all
dead,
the
main
thing
I
tell
people
I
get
the
same
kind
of
calls
from
like
friends
and
like
my
dad
who
butts
me,
it's
like
oh,
what's
going
on
did
something
happen.
Did
he
just
get
hacked
blah
blah
blah,
but
you
just
have
to
ask
yourself
when
things
like
this
happen
in
the
market,
did
the
fundamentals
change
or
is
this
just
a
market
cycle?
You
know
right
now
we're
in
a
bear
market.
B
B
price
chat
telegram,
they
were
saying,
you
know
they
would
argue
that
the
fundamentals
have
actually
improved
for
us
over
the
last
couple
months
and
I
would
agree
as
well
as
we've
seen
the
main
net
launch
and
seen
these
new
proposals
get
put
into
place
in
the
RAM
market
issues
to
be
addressed.
So
as
long
as
the
fundamentals
are
still
there,
I
think.
A
B
Now
there
are
so
many
people
that
think
I'm
like
offing
myself
or
like
depressed
or
something
but
honestly,
I'm.
Fine,
like
this
is
a
normal
thing.
I've
been
encrypted
since
2013
I've
seen
crazy
bear
markets,
I've
seen
crazy
bull
markets
like
we
had
last
year,
I'm
fine
I
appreciate
the
the
sentiment.
I
appreciate
the
kind
words
whether
they
were
sarcastic
or
not,
everybody
checking
in
on
me
I'm
I'm
doing
just
fine.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I.
A
Mean
I
still
think
as
bullish
as
I
am
Oni
is
I
you're
gonna
get
destroyed
on
the
BET
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
there
well
see.
I
I
do
think,
there's
a
possibility.
We
hit
a
new
all-time
high
I.
Don't
if
we're
making
progress
on
the
technology.
Dan
we're
gonna
talk
about
Dan's
proposal
for
the
running
model.
I
think
great
things
are
happening.
Great
tech
is
built
right
now,
not
just
on
es
but
everywhere.
B
B
They
really
have
to
go
out
and
have
somebody
custody
them
for
them,
and
it's
the
same
thing
with
crypto,
but
obviously
with
crypto
with
these
digital
assets,
there's
a
much
higher
risk
when
you
sort
of
trust
somebody
else
to
hold
your
assets
for
you,
but
back
should
solve
a
lot
of
those
issues
and
hopefully
bring
a
new
influx
of
institutional
capital
in
the
space
so
I
think
later
this
year
it's
gonna
be
a
much
different
market
as
well.
Yeah.
A
And
that's
another
reason
to
be
positive
about
this
because,
like
I
said
before
the
delay
in
the
ETF
decision
on
the
CBOE
ETF,
it
wasn't
unexpected
and
actually
the
delay
is
good
because
it
means
they're
doing
due
diligence.
They'd
have
just
outright
denied
it
if
it
wasn't
like
being
heavily
like
researched
and.
B
Really
well
thought
out
and
I
have
a
feeling
that
so,
in
addition
to
being
able
to
buy
and
trade
Bitcoin
on
this
platform,
you'll
also
be
able
to
buy
things
like
derivatives
and
ETFs
and
and
all
that
good
stuff,
so
I
have
a
feeling
that
they
may
delay
the
CBOE
etf
again.
This
is
just
pure
speculation,
but
until
the
back
platform
launches
and
then
have
the
first
Bitcoin
ETF
on
backed
I
think
from
a
regulatory
standpoint,
the
SEC
would
like
that
more.
A
I
think,
as
soon
as
it
does
get
approved,
whether
it
be
next
month,
two
months
from
now
next
year,
once
that
happens,
it's
game
on.
We've
talked
about
this
on
a
few
episodes,
but
all
it
takes
to
get
back
or
we
didn't
actually
hit
it.
But
to
get
over
that
hump
of
like
the
trillion
dollar
total
market
cap,
it's
gonna
only
take
a
tiny
fraction
of
a
percent
of
pensions
401ks
getting
into
crypto.
B
I
believe
something
like
a
million
or
a
million-and-a-half
dollars,
which
will
be
at
the
end
of
this
year
in
December,
but
it
was
cool,
I
think
we're
starting
to
see
a
pattern.
This
is
something
that
you
mentioned
to
me
before.
The
podcast
call
we're
at
each
one
of
these
events,
we've
actually
seen
block
one
make
some
kind
of
an
announcement,
and
so
far
you
know.
Our
first
announcement
was
that
new
tool
demux
that
they
actually
previewed
at
the
first
Hong
Kong
hackathon.
B
That
you
know,
allows
people
to
more
easily
interface
and
sort
of
query
the
databases
in
their
applications.
It's
it's
pretty
cool.
If
you're
a
developer
from
a
developer
standpoint,
what
we
saw
at
the
most
recent
hackathon
in
Sydney
Australia
was
actually
a
dap
announcement,
so
a
project
called
haven
with
two
V's
hav
ven
announced
that
it
will
port
to
EOS
and
actually
airdrop
tokens
on
the
US
platform
to
the
US
main
net.
B
So
what
Haven
basically
is
is
sort
of
a
payment
protocol
in
a
way
it's
almost
like
a
payment
platform,
but
the
big
part
of
it
is
they're
stable
coin.
So
a
lot
of
you
are
familiar
with
tether,
USD
T,
it's
a
stable
coin.
Basically
a
cryptocurrency
that
represents
you,
know
the
value
of
a
US
dollar,
so
1
USD,
T
equals
1
USD
in
normal,
US,
dollar
and
Haven
is
very
similar
with
something
called
n
USD
and
as
in
Nancy,
but
in
addition
to
running
on
etherium,
where
they
currently
exist.
B
A
B
Saw
something
that
I
think
they're
air
dropping
their
Haven
tokens,
not
the
N
USD
so
like
the
NUS
T
is
a
stable
coin,
which
is
kind
of
the
backend
and
powers
their
payment
platform,
but
I
think
you
also
need
the
Haven
token
in
some
way
to
interact
with
it
or
do
something.
It's
I'm,
not
Humber,
sent
clear
and
how
it
works,
but
I
believe
that
Haven
token
will
be
dropping
not
the
actual
stable
coin.
They'll
be
kind
of
crazy.
A
As
far
as
announcement,
so
there
was
another
big
announcement
at
the
hackathon
I
use,
VC
unveiled
a
1
million
dollar
hack
pitch,
launch
seed
funding
initiative,
and
what
that
is,
is
it's
a
seed
funding
initiative
where
the
program
allows
teams
from
the
global
hackathons
to
pitch
their
DAP
ideas
to
e
as
VC
companies
like
svk
crypto,
you
had
on
the
show
a
few
weeks
ago
and
they're
getting
an
opportunity
to
receive
an
additional
$50,000
of
investment
to
launch
their
ideas.
So
it's
not
just
the
winners
of
these
hackathons.
C
A
A
Basically,
there's
at
least
700
million
dollars
of
funds,
just
just
waiting
to
be
invested
into
the
the
most
groundbreaking
application.
Ideas
projects
that
traditionally,
if
they
launched
in
2017,
may,
have
tried
the
raisin
I
see
around
now
now
they're
going
the
different
route
which
which
we're
gonna
see
more
more
projects,
come
out
like
this,
where
they're
gonna
get
initial
seed
funding
from
the
SVC
fund.
Maybe
a
VC
fund
outside
of
that
I
know:
okay,
blockchain
capital,
who
I
think
aren't
they
owned
by
okx
yeah.
B
A
A
So
there's
there's
all
these
private
investment
opportunities
and
it's
it's
a
huge
opportunity
for
these
five
teams
from
each
hackathon
to
be
able
to
get
in
front
of
them
so
so
think,
like
Shark,
Tank,
yeah,
basically
the
DAP
style
and
how
cool
would
that
be?
If
someone
from
one
of
these
funds,
if
they
want
to
invest
in
the
production,
actually
turn
into
like
a
web,
show?
Oh.
B
A
Mean
and
I
watched
the
most
of
the
hour-long
hackathon
awards
ceremony,
where
all
the
teams
got
to
I
think
they
got
five
or
six
minutes
to
pitch
pitch
their
ideas
and
their
projects
that
they
built
over
the
weekend.
I
would
really
like
to
see
the
next
version
of
this,
which
is
gonna,
be
you're.
Gonna
have
all
these
esv
sees
yeah
and
they're
gonna,
be
the
Sharks
well
yeah.
B
It's
a
cool
idea,
I
mean
if
you
think
about
it
from
a
macro
level,
to
sort
of
the
this
global
broad
scale.
You
know,
there's
this
billion
dollar
DAP
fund
that
block
one
has,
but
in
order
to
allocate
that
they
have
to
find
good
projects
so
what
they
did,
they
went
out.
They
found
out
these
VCS,
but
now
they
still
have
to
find
the
right
developer.
B
So
I
think
thinking
about
these
hackathons
is
not
just
a
way
to
bring
exposure
to
us,
but
also
to
get
all
the
best
devs
in
one
place
to
then
fund
their
projects.
It
makes
a
lot
more
sense
now,
with
this
million
dollar
fund
or
seed
funding
initiative
as
well,
we're
bringing
all
the
best
projects
here,
they
can
all
pitch
to
the
VCS,
and
then
the
VCS
can
do
a
little
less
work
in
finding
these
devs.
So.
A
On
top
of
that,
you're
bringing
in
the
the
best
minds
into
one
room
as
far
as
the
developer
teams,
like
maybe
this
projects,
not
a
great
idea
worth
funding
and
taken
to
the
next
level,
but
maybe
on
a
talent
level.
Your
team
is
just
so
talented
that
maybe
block
1
will
hire
you
yeah
I
moved
to
Blacksburg.
Oh.
B
Absolutely
so
the
next
hackathon
is
actually
coming
up.
It's
in
London
on
September,
22nd
and
23rd.
We
got
a
recent
announcement
from
us
themselves.
Big
announcement,
yeah
very
big
announcement
so
so
far,
neither
Dan
nor
Brendan
dan
is
the
CTO
sort
of
the
brains
behind
this
Brendan
bloomer
is
the
CEO
of
block
1.
B
Neither
of
them
have
been
at
these
hackathons,
yet
they
announced
a
couple
days
ago
that
hey
Dan
Larimer
is
gonna,
be
there
first
time
he's
making
an
appearance,
CEO
block,
CTO
block
1,
then
the
following
day,
I
think
like
12
hours
later,
they
also
announced
that
Brendan
bloomer
is
going
to
be
there
as
well.
So,
if
you
think
about
these
hackathons
as
having
this
history
now
of
making
announcements,
you
know
we
had
demux
that
first
developer
tool
at
Hong
Kong.
Now
we
had
the
Haven
announcement
just
recently
in
Sydney
I.
B
A
Gonna
I
think
Dan
being
there
is
the
bigger
like
more
intriguing
piece
for
me,
because
Brendan's
been
to
different
events,
he
might
not
have
been
at
the
first
two
hackathons,
but
he's
been
at
the
meetups
bragger
ones.
He's
he's
been
on
live
streams,
making
big
announcement
to
do
so
Brendan
being
there.
Even
though
he's
the
CEO
of
a
deal
was
Dan
being
there
yeah.
A
A
But
they've
done
like
videos
of
him,
they've
put
a
pre-recorded
message
of
Dan,
thanking
the
crowd
and
talking
about
different
things
like
show
he's
still
alive
yeah,
but
he's
never
actually
been
there
and
the
fact
that
he's
gonna
be
there
as
a
as
a
judge.
Actually,
Brendan
are
both
gonna,
be
judges
and
that's
what
they're
being
announced
for
at
least
so
far
is
big
and
I.
Think
the
other
piece
to
it
is
the
mentorship
aspect.
A
So,
in
the
official
press
release
that
block
one
put
out
about
the
hackathon
results
in
Sydney,
one
of
the
team
members
was
quoted,
saying
that
they
thought
the
most
valuable
piece
of
it
was
the
mentorship
provided
to
them
by
the
block
one
team.
So
basically
the
smartest
guy
in
the
room,
yeah
it's
gonna,
be
Dan
lammer
and
he's
gonna,
be
the
one
guiding
these
projects
and
giving
them
ideas
on
which
way
to
take
take
their
idea.
Yeah.
B
So
I
think
we
could
see
some
cool
sort
of
hackathon
concepts
and
ideas
come
out
of
this
because
Dan
and
Brendon
are
there
as
these
mentors
not
to
say
the
last
mentors
haven't
been
good
because
they've
been
great
people
like
Larry
Tseng
are
the
co-founder
Wikipedia,
who
now
runs
every
pedia,
saying
because
Manian
from
the
same
team
but
I
think
this
is
gonna,
be
awesome
and
to
speculate
a
little
bit
on
what
block
one
might
announce
if
they
do
make
an
announcement.
I
think
it
could
be
a
lot
of
different
things.
A
First
DAP
yeah,
we
know,
like
they've,
been
hiring
developers
way
before
the
main
that
started
and
they
were
probably
starting.
Their
application
built
for
their
DAP
builds
before
the
main
that
launched
like
we
can
only
assume
and
everyone's
wondering
when
the
first
big
gaps
gonna
come
out
and
I
think
the
first
killer,
dabs
gonna,
be
built
by
block
one
yeah
and
I'll
even
go
back
to
to
a
sound
bite.
We've
the
spray,
the
third
or
fourth
time.
A
C
C
You
create
a
new
system
and
you
move
to
the
new
system,
so
you
create
a
social
media
platform
that
everyone
wants
to
be
a
part
of,
and
it
can
govern
itself
so
well
that
people
want
to
use
the
social
media
governance
for
more
things,
and
it
just
creeps
them
to
use
natural,
a
versus,
saying,
hey,
let's,
tear
down
the
older,
replace
it
with
the
new
you.
You
have
to
organically,
create
something
that
can
live
within
the
current
environment
and
make
the
older
techniques
redundant
and
eventually
unnecessary.
So.
A
B
Gonna
say
if
the
roadmap
hasn't
been
announced
by
September,
22nd
I
think
a
hundred
percent
chance
hits
the
road
man
they've
been
teasing
it
for
a
while
saying
it's
quote
imminent.
So
I
honestly
think
that
that
will
be
before
September
22nd,
that's
almost
two
months
away,
still
or
I
guess
five
or
six
weeks,
but
I
also
think
it
could
be
something
more
on
the
developer
side.
B
Maybe
it's
a
preview
of
sidechains,
maybe
it's
a
preview
of
the
multi-threading
version
of
EOS,
maybe
something
like
that
that
they'll
task
them
with
like
hey,
build
a
DAP
that
utilizes
a
side
chain
or
hey,
build
a
DAP
that
you
know
utilizes
multi-threading
in
some
way
that
needs
you
know
the
throughput
of
that
many
transactions,
but
I'm
with
you
I
hope
that
the
roadmap
comes
out
before
September
and
then
I
hope
that
they
announce
some
kind
of
adapt,
preferably
their
social
media
adapt.
But
I.
B
B
They
say
I
want
the
roadmap
sooner
yeah
I
prefer
the
roadmap
this
month.
Please
guys
if
you're
listening,
I
mean
they've
been
teasing.
The
roadmap.
Now
for
several
weeks,
Brendan
bloomer
has
saying
it's
imminent
generally
when
they
say
imminent.
It's
it's
released
within
24
hours,
but
obviously
it's
been
a
couple
weeks
now,
but
it'll
be
very,
very
interesting
to
see
what
happens.
I'm
excited
either
way
just
to
see
the
projects
but
I
like
this
pattern
of
them,
making
some
kind
of
announcement
and
not
really
categorizing
and
either
maybe
it'll,
be
developer.
B
A
B
A
A
Came
from
I,
don't
know
who
they
are,
but
I
love
speculating
on
what
the
future
brings.
So
there
there
was
a
user
on
Twitter
their
handles
maple
leaf
cap.
It
stands
for
maple
leaf
capital,
I
didn't
see
a
website
on
there,
but
they
made
some
really
bold
predictions
on.
What's
gonna
happen
in
the
next
year
with
ESI,
oh
and
I'll
just
walk
through
their
speculation.
B
A
As
far
as
this
one,
like
yes,
I,
think
that
they'll
have
at
least
two
or
three
DAP
ideas,
I
think
we
there
see
it
on
the
roadmap,
yeah
or
we'll
just
see
announcements,
hopefully
the
first
one
in
the
next
month,
but
I
think
that's
very
reasonable.
Dan
dan
has
stated
as
much
as
saying
let
that's
block
ones.
Next
school
they
have,
they
have
10%
of
the
total
token
allocations
and
computational
resources
on
the
network,
so
it
only
makes
sense
for
them
to
use
those
resources.
Oh
absolutely.
B
I
mean
from
the
beginning
that
basically
said
that
block
one
is
going
to
be
one
of,
if
not
the
biggest
app
developers
on
us
in
general.
So
when
they
start
building
and
launching
these
DAPs
on
the
maintenance,
it's
gonna
get.
It's
gonna,
get
real
crazy,
so
I
totally
agree
with
that.
I
think
the
two
that
they
may
target
in
the
existing
for-profit
platforms
is
basically
them
saying:
hey.
B
I
think
the
only
reason,
though,
that
they
were
able
to
freeze
that
is
because
it's
a
centralized
system
like
they
can
go
directly
after
uber
and
say:
hey
we're
gonna,
find
you
we're
gonna
do
this.
If
you
don't
stop
issuing
new
uber
and
lyft
drivers,
you
know
the
credentials
for
them
to
go
drive,
but
when
you
have
a
decentralized
I
mean
how
can
they
really
stop
so.
B
B
A
A
B
That
sounds
reasonable
to
me.
I
mean,
if
you
think,
about
the
recent
investments
in
to
block
one
directly,
not
necessarily
into
es,
although
I
bet,
these
guys
all
hold
us
tokens
with
Peter
Thiel,
and
we
also
saw
tomorrow
BC,
which
is
sort
of
associated
with
Eric
Schmidt
from
Google.
That
was
several
months
ago,
but
the
recent
announcement
for
Peter
teal
block
one
themselves,
and
you
know
the
EOS
platform-
are
really
attracting
a
lot
of
the
top
investment
minds
in
the
world
and
that's
not
gonna.
Go
unnoticed.
I
think
people
at
these
major
investment
companies.
A
I,
don't
know
if
it'll
be
two,
maybe
one
but
we're
gonna
see
more
big
names,
whether
it's
the
company
themselves,
because
technically
Google
definitely
didn't
invest
in
block
one,
but
the
fact
that
Eric
Schmidt's
personal
VC
funds
and
he
sat
on
the
board
of
alphabet
yeah
for
as
long
as
he
has
it.
It's
not
Google
themselves,
but
it's
the
man
that
was
behind
Google
for
a
very
long
time
right.
It's
still.
A
Right
then,
the
third
thing
they
mentioned
once
again.
This
is
all
just
speculation.
Ten
other
VC
partnerships
are
founded
alongside
the
existing
with
five
billion
dollars
of
funding
committed
from
various
parties
across
the
Silicon
Valley
valley
and
finance
industry.
That's
pretty
reasonable
I
mean
we
keep
seeing
more
VC
crypted.
You
see
funds
popping
up,
I,
don't
think.
B
B
B
Was
a
lot
of
speculation
in
the
early
days?
You
know,
after
that,
initial
billion
dollar
debt
fund
from
block
one
came
out
would
be
that
they
would
actually
also
be
their
own
biggest
VC
and
launch
another
separate
billion
dollar
debt
fund.
That's
just
their
money
that
they're
allocating
they
kind
of.
Did
it
already
with
that
tune
or
million
dollar
u.s.
global
partnership,
which
is
technically
them,
but
we'll
see,
maybe
they'll
put
it
more
money.
Maybe
I'll
get
people
like
Google
and
Facebook,
and
all
these
people
to
put
up
money,
but.
A
B
A
Deployed
a
whole
lot
of
capital
yet,
but
the
whole
point
of
VC
is
to
make
more
money
yeah.
So
you
start
with
a
billion
dollars
and
if
you're
successful
you'll
make
at
least
a
billion
or
potentially
more
money,
yeah
and
it's
just
gonna
keep
growing
and
growing
and
growing
into
this
monster.
Oh
absolutely
well,
and
every.
B
Project
doesn't
even
have
to
succeed
absolutely
in
block
one
being
the
biggest
beneficiary
of
all
that
since
they
have
their
hands
and
all
these
different
VC
partnership
pots
that
they're
going
to
then
have
so
much
more
money
to
reinvest
in
the
ecosystem
to
hire
the
best
talent
like
they're.
Already
doing
so,
it's
gonna
be
pretty
crazy.
The.
A
Forth
speculation:
we
will
see
our
Netscape
moment
with
one
or
more
DAP,
delivering
an
ecosystem
beyond
current
imagination
and
create
social
and
economic
value,
far
better
than
the
existing
shareholder
enabled
ecosystem.
The
DAP
attracts
1
billion
dollars,
USD
and
anique
an
ecosystem
market
cap.
So
I
don't
know
how
accurate
this
one
will
be.
I
think
we
have
one
like
major
killer
DAP,
going
back
to
the
sound
byte
we
played
of
what
Dan
said
of
how
to
get
mass
adoption.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
gonna
happen
this
year.
A
B
Know
I
mean
I
think
if
you
look
I
think
it's
possible.
If
you
look
at
that,
first
prediction
of
the
three
different
apps
that
block
one
builds
because
if
two
of
those
are
targeting
existing
massive
companies
like
Facebook,
if
they
can
pull
off
at
a
centralized
social
media
platform,
that's
easy
to
use
feels
just
like
you're
using
a
normal
one,
but
has
some
kind
of
a
token
incentive
where
you
get
paid
for
watching
ads.
B
Or
you
know
you
get
a
bunch
of
real
money
when
your
tweet
gets
retweeted
a
bunch
and
goes
viral
versus
just
a
bunch
of
fake
retweets
or
I
guess
you
know
a
retweet
counter
that
doesn't
actually
give
you
anything
so
I
think
it's
possible.
But
if
it
happens,
I
think
it
will
be
one
a
block
one
one
snaps,
rather
than
something
else
that
comes
from
a
third.
A
C
B
It
makes
perfect
sense
with
them
the
mobile
wallet,
so
they
released
the
preview
of
their
mac
wallet
and
basically
alpha
stage,
look
meaning
you
shouldn't
store
any
real
tokens
on.
It,
only
use
it
on
a
test
net,
but
basically
using
the
touch
ID
on
your
macbook.
If
you
have
a
newer,
MacBook
Pro
to
sort
of
secure
the
hardware
wallet
using
the
secure
Enclave
chip
in
your
Mac
same
thing
exists
in
your
iPhone.
If
you
have
an
iPhone,
that's
newer
than
six
or
seven
years
old
since
touch
ID
was
implemented.
B
Only
only
you
have
that
fingerprint
only
you
have
that
face
so
I
think
they
may
tie
it
in
with
their
mobile
wallet
in
some
way
and
if
they
do
I
think
it
opens
up
an
opportunity
for
a
ton
of
other
innovation
on
the
existing
parts
of
the
US
chain,
like
governance,
so
rather
than
you
know,
voting
for
block
producers
being
based
on
the
amount
of
tokens
you
have,
it
could
be
based.
Then,
on
that
biometric
ID,
since
you
can't
go
out
and
make
a
bunch
of
new
fingerprints,
you
know
unless
you're
stealing
people's
identities.
B
A
That
point
I
think
there
will
be
different
types
of
voting,
so
some
some
type
of
decisions
might
be
based
on
one
token,
one
vote
right:
some
decisions
might
be
based
on
one
person,
one
vote
yeah
and
there
could
be
different
models.
Just
like
the
the
recent
referendum
it
aren't.
Aren't
there
wasn't
their
recent
referendum?
Was
it
passed
where
token
holders
kind
of
vote
on
constitutional
amendments
instead
of
the
block
producers
so.
B
The
constitutional
referendum
will
happen
soon,
which
will
require
token
holders
to
vote,
so
it
should
be
actually
in
the
next
month.
I
think
is
when
that
referendum
park
should
be
ready.
Where
and
one
of
the
block
producers
is
building
this
I
forgot
specifically,
who
but
they're
doing
a
good
job
which
will
touken
olders
to
vote
on
the
specific
constitutional
amendment.
So
if
you
like,
you
know
constitutional
amendments,
one
three,
five,
seven,
eight
nine-
you
can
vote
on
just
those
instead
of
just
one
bolt
Constitution.
So
it's
a
way
for
token
holders
directly
to
choose.
A
Think
we
will
have
an
episode
we
talked
about.
Last
week
we
released
two
episodes.
We
had
an
interview
with
lumiose
and
then
we
did
our
usual
episode
like
this
one
this
week
really
gonna
do
this
one
episode,
but
hopefully
next
weekend,
we'll
have
a
double
episode
for
you
and
I.
Have
some
guests
lined
up?
That
will
actually
be
able
to
talk
in
great
detail
about
this,
and
it's.
A
B
A
Candidates
yeah,
but
I,
told
him.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
the
worker
proposal
system
and
some
of
the
governance
issues
going
on
and
I
know
Josh
from
US
Canada
he
mentioned
the
referendum
was
gonna,
be
passed
soon.
Definitely
so
that's
gonna
be
really
cool
to
talk
about
and
they
they're
the
experts
on
that.
It's
not
me
yeah
moving.
B
On
to
0.5,
it
says,
in
addition
to
0.4,
we
see
a
grand
total
of
100
plus
air
drops
to
use
holders
and
a
thousand
or
more
active
teams
working
on
various
stat
projects
globally
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
the
first
ecosystem
or
public
blockchain
of
choice
would
now
be
EEO.
Sensitive
aetherium.
This
I
think,
is
totally
reasonable.
We
already
have
more
than
a
dozen
air
drops
now
I
think
a
month
and
a
half
almost
two
months
after
launch.
B
A
Don't
know
if
this
is
gonna
happen
in
the
next
year,
but
it
says
vitalic,
butor,
enjoins
block
one
as
an
adviser
to
help
scale
blockchain
further
and
will
help
on
a
few
key
dot
projects
block
one
is
working
on
now.
I
would
love
for
this
to
happen,
because
I
think
that
the
mega
powers
need
to
it.
You
know
at
some
point
I
think.
A
B
B
B
A
A
They
only
added
one
airdrop
token
for
trading,
it's
the
IQ
token
and
its
main
trading
pair
is
cos
yeah
and
earlier
last
year's,
whenever
the
etherium
trading
Paris
came
out
as
soon
as
theorems
market
cap
grew
to
a
high
enough
price
point
that
it
had
and
had
enough
liquidity.
There
were
eath
pairs
for
everything,
yeah
and
especially
because
there's
a
lot
of
aetherium
tokens
launched
out
of
icos
in
the
same
way
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
airdrop
tokens
launched
out
of
years.
Well,.
B
You
transfer
that
aetherium
to
an
exchange
to
buy
your
all
coins,
but
the
reason
why
people
are
choosing
a
theory
mode
for
Bitcoin
now
is
because
it's
simply
faster.
You
can
make
that
transfer
from
coin
base
to
the
other
exchange
in
ten
minutes
instead
of
an
hour
like
he
can
on
Bitcoin
waiting
for
the
confirmations,
but
on
Neos
you
do
that
in
a
couple
seconds
and
it
can
be
confirmed
already
reversible.
So
when
that's
the
option
of
choice,
I
think
people
are
gonna
use
us
as
that
on-ramp
transferred
over
by
all
coins.
B
Maybe
it's
egos
tokens,
maybe
it's
something
else,
but
I
weeded
out
recently
at
Finch
fi
on
Twitter.
If
you
want
to
follow
me,
I
had
to
use
aetherium
the
other
day
for
the
first
time
since
he
was
really
launched,
and
it
was
a
horrible
experience
just
to
do
a
token
swap
from
etherium
over
to
es
trying
to
send
that
one
transaction
was
a
nightmare.
I
had
to
resend.
B
It
twice
increase
my
gas
limit,
paying
like
five
or
six
dollars
in
fees
from
my
three
failed
transactions:
horrible
horrible
user
experience
and
after
using
geo
synthetic
a
transaction
and
seeing
it
confirm
before
I
can
even
click
on
the
link
to
view
my
transaction
on
the
blog
Explorer
is
a
crazy,
crazy
difference
of
user
experience
that
I
just
I
can't
go
back
to
the
old
version.
I
can't
go
back
to
a
theory,
I.
A
Have
so
little
interest
in
a
theorem
anymore?
Actually
uninstalled
meta
mask
like
a
month
ago,
because
I
I
don't
know
at
what
point
I
did
a
chrome
upgrade
or
whatever,
but
I
I
clicked
on
the
little
meta
mask
icon
and
my
account
wasn't
even
on
there
and
I
didn't
feel
like
finding
my
recovery
cd
back.
B
B
I
think
I
have
like
I,
don't
know
40
or
50
dollars,
and
coins
on
one
of
my
fury,
McCants
and
I
was
doing
the
math.
In
order
for
me
to
transfer
these
four
different
coins
out,
it's
gonna
cost
me
like
ten
dollars
in
transaction
fees,
plus
I'm
gonna
have
to
wait
for
all
these
things
to
confirm,
hope
they
confirm
get
in
the
exchange.
Withdraw
it.
It's
just
not
worth
it
even
to
go
in
and
get
the
eventually
twenty
dollars.
Out
of
that.
That
would
take
so
long
to
do
so.
The.
B
B
Next
1.8
relates
to
block
producers
like
cypher
glass.
It
says
major
ID
C's
announced
their
candidacy
as
block
producers
and
will
win
a
few
spots.
We
may
only
see
three
to
four
of
the
current
block
producers.
Still
in
the
top
twenty
one,
and
at
least
one
of
them
will
be
Amazon,
Google
and
Microsoft,
who
basically
pulled
their
support
for
bps
political
campaigns,
heat
up
and
block
one
begins
to
place
their
votes.
This
I
think
makes
sense.
I
mean
if
you
think
of
yo
s.
Is
this
massive
global
network?
B
If
people
like
Peter
Thiel
are
investing,
if
then,
eventually
Facebook
Google,
Alibaba
Amazon,
all
these
people
are
investing
in
block
one
they're
gonna
look
at
the
infrastructure
inside
and
go
oh
wait.
We
can
do
that
better
than
these
block
producers
with
our
existing
infrastructure.
We
can
turn
it
on
right
now
and
start
making
this
money.
B
It's
a
no-brainer
for
these
companies
to
do
that
and
I
also
agree
with
the
same
that
we
may
only
see
three
to
four
of
current
ppp's
in
the
top
21
and
I
think
it'll
be
the
best
people
that
engage
with
the
community
the
most
and
are
kind
of
those
community
VPS.
Before
these
you
know,
global
IDC
block
producers
come
in
yeah.
A
B
Seems
very
similar
to
ibm's
hyper
ledger
in
that
you
can
sort
of
run
your
own
private,
etherium
chain,
say
you're
running,
say
you
ship
food
for
Walmart
I,
think
Walmart
was
using
hyper
alleged
for
a
while.
You
can
kind
of
share
that
blockchain
between,
say
four
or
five
different
parties
that
are
all
involved
in
the
shipment
of
that
food
to
keep
each
other
in
check.
So
it's
not
something
where
you
need
everybody
in
the
world
to
be
a
part
of
it
just
kind
of
a
share
blockchain.
B
A
It
mostly
looked
like
an
amend.
Only
data
like
it's
a
distributed
database
with
amend
only
feature,
so
you
can't
ever
delete
records.
You
can
only
amend
the
records
right.
That's
essentially
what
a
distributed
ledger
is
yeah,
but
obviously
there's
no
aetherium
involved,
no,
no
tokenization
of
anything
but
right.
A
It's
interesting
to
see
the
the
big
tech
players
getting
involved
in
blockchain,
alright,
so
number
9
with
the
DAP
proliferation
official
wallet
and
significantly
reduced
resource
barrier
of
entry
costs
of
operation,
AOS
crosses
ten
billion
transactions
per
year
on
block
tivity
and
over
400
TPS
mainstream
media
takes
notice
and
finally,
realizes
blockchain
3.0
is
upon
the
world.
This.
B
I
think
makes
sense,
I
mean
if
you
look
at
the
the
last
bear
market
we
had
was
about
fourteen
months
we're
currently
in
month
nine
of
this
bear
market.
It
doesn't
mean
it's
gonna
last,
the
same
amount
of
time
could
be
shorter
could
be
much
longer.
But
if,
if
you
are
like
me-
and
you
think
the
next
bull
market
is
gonna
come
in
the
next
year,
I
think
this
makes
a
ton
of
sense,
especially
for
mainstream
media
taking
notice.
You
know
oh
look
at
us,
they
can
process
as
many
transactions.
B
B
B
A
Bitcoins
gonna
be
a
monster
this
year.
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
possible.
Bitcoin
is
still
gonna
be
king,
especially
with
the
ETF's
coming
up
that
I
don't
know
if
this
one's
gonna
happen,
maybe
eventually,
if
we're
being
ultimately
bullish,
but
I
I
see
Bitcoin
remaining
King
for
at
least
the
next
year.
I.
B
Still
think,
there's
a
lot
of
time:
I'm
gonna,
take
the
contrarian
approach
advanced
and
a
group
with
them.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
time
in
between
the
listing
on
back
to
November,
to
June
the
first
birthday
for
us
to
hit
that
new
bull
market.
Maybe
it's
initiated
by
back
to
November.
Maybe
it's
not,
but
then
the
media
starts
talking
about
blockchain
3.0.
B
These
things
fall
into
place,
all
of
those
people
that
now
have
Bitcoin
in
their
hedge
funds
through
backed
or
looking
for
the
next
big
thing
looking
to
get
in
on
it
early
before
it
gets
listed
on
something
like
backed
and
I.
Think
that
thing
is
going
to
be
ESO.
I
could
totally
see
this
happening.
I
made
a
similar
prediction,
I
guess
during
the
bull
market
last
year
that
in
the
next
three
years,
EOS
itself,
just
the
token,
would
exceed
Bitcoin
by
market
cap.
So
this
is
kind
of
similar
but
I
think
either
way
that.
A
B
A
B
If
you
guys
are
interested
follow
them,
it's
maple
leaf
cap
on
twitter.
They
put
out
a
ton
of
interesting
threads,
not
just
this
one
thread,
but
it's
usually
ten
part
tweet
threads
about
really
interesting
sort
of
aspects
of
the
US
ecosystem,
whether
it's
predictions
for
the
future
or
you
know,
analysis
of
existing
proposals
or
new
proposals
to
add
to
the
chain
great
person
to
follow
on
Twitter
only
about
a
hundred
followers.
So
a
pretty
initial
count
right
now,
but
some
really
really
great
content
coming
out
of
Maple
Leaf
cap.
So.
A
B
That's
B,
OID
calm
seems
very
similar
to
golem
on
aetherium,
which
is
basically
this.
The
centralized
global
supercomputer
you
can
sort
of
you
know
lease
out
your
computers,
computing
power
to
the
network
and
then
other
people
say
like
researchers
who
need
a
ton
of
computing
power
to
run
some
crazy.
You
know
cancer
cure
algorithm,
they'll
go
in
lease
or
computing
power
from
you
and
you'll
get
paid
in
the
Boyde
tokens,
so
the
other
airdrop
that's
coming
up
soon
is
something
called
a
whoo
aw,
oh
oh,
which
actually
links
to
something
called
wolf
social.
B
They
said
that
they
were
gonna,
do
their
airdrop
in
July.
Didn't
really
happen,
not
sure
if
it's
actually
gonna
still
happen,
Shane's
calm!
That
exchange
released
something
eight
days
ago,
saying
that
we're
gonna
support
it.
So
maybe
it's
coming.
Maybe
it's
not.
It
seems
like
it's
probably
a
coin,
something
that
I
probably
won't
be
super
excited
about,
but
I
am
excited
about
boy
comm,
just
to
have
that
Gollum
equivalent
on
yo
sand.
I.
Think
it's
something
that
we're
gonna
see
more
of
in
the
future,
where
we
had
all
of
these
projects.
B
All
these
icy
O's
launched
on
a
theorem
with
these
grand
promises
that
just
aren't
possible
to
execute
on
a
theorem
and
we're
gonna,
see
I
think
before
we
see
those
those
main
projects
like
the
augers
and
the
golems
move
over
to
es
we're
gonna
see
competitors
pop
up
on
eos
natively.
That
may
take
a
lot
of
that
market
share
away
from
the
etherium
versions.
The.
A
B
Yeah
their
jobs
well
and
right
now,
if
you're
a
developer
out
there
listening,
maybe
you
know
somebody
at
Boyd,
maybe
you're
in
there
telegram
and
you
want
them
to
airdrop
to
an
updated
snapshot,
send
them
a
link
to
yo
snapshot
Co.
It's
that
great
tool
about
us,
New
York.
They
take
literally
every
single
day.
They
take
a
snapshot
of
all
the
US
balance,
so
people
tomorrow
yesterday,
you
would
get
more
if
somebody
doesn't
interrupt
today
versus
the
one
on
June
1st.
B
So
really
every
new
project-
that's
air-dropping,
especially
this
far
out
from
June
first-
should
be
air-dropping
to
a
new,
updated
snapshot
to
not
only
sort
of
incentivize
people
to
jump
into
us,
but
also
just
to
airdrop
to
more
people
who
are
more
active,
INEOS
versus
the
people
who
may
have
sold
after
the
genesis
drop.
So.
B
If
you
think
about
you
know,
people
generally
perceive
a
low
price,
specifically
something
that
they're
holding
like.
Oh,
you
know
es
is
down
20%
yesterday.
This
is
a
negative
thing
sure
from
a
financial.
You
know
investor's
perspective,
that's
a
negative
thing
in
the
very
short
term,
but
from
a
more
macro
perspective.
B
From
this
perspective
of
yose
competing
with
all
of
these
other
platform
chains,
it
actually
be
a
very,
very
positive
thing
and
here's
why,
from
a
funding
perspective,
as
you
know,
if
you're
a
new
platform,
you
have
this
new
idea
for
a
new
blockchain,
that's
gonna
be
faster
and
better
than
iou's.
You
need
to
go
out
and
raise
funding
like
block
1
did
when
they
raised
about
four
billion
dollars
last
year.
Right
now
in
a
bear
market,
it's
not
a
market,
that's
very
conducive
to
funding.
B
It's
gonna
be
much
much
harder
for
a
new
platform
to
come
out,
raise
even
close
to
that
amount
of
money
to
block.
One
did
to
then
compete
with
us,
but
in
addition
to
that,
to
your
point
with
developers
having
a
lower
token
price
means
a
lower
ramp
price
means
lower
barrier
of
entry
for
developers
for
new
people
just
experimenting
with
the
platform,
so
bear
markets
are
usually
really
great
times
for
developers
to
go
in
and
build
without
the
distraction
of
price
and
without
worrying
about
you
know
how
much
their
tokens
are
worth
today
versus
yesterday.
B
So
right
now
what
we're
seeing,
even
though
you
know
you
may
not
see
it
on
the
surface-
are
tons
of
developers
going
out
buying
used
tokens
playing
with
RAM.
You
know
maybe
doing
a
test
airdrop
here
and
there,
which
you
can
see
on
some
block
explores
which
are
pretty
interesting,
but
ultimately
that
barrier
to
entry
to
actually
build
on
EOS
is
much
much
lower
with
lower
token
price.
B
So
it's
a
great
thing
for
the
overall
sort
of
maturation
of
the
ecosystem
for
the
overall
build
out
of
the
ecosystem,
which
will
eventually
have
you
know,
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
DAPs
running
on
this
thing.
So,
ultimately,
from
the
macro
perspective,
even
though
it
can
be
a
little
depressing
at
times
to
CEOs
drop
like
this,
along
with
the
rest
of
the
market,
it
can
actually
be
a
very,
very
good
thing,
not
just
from
a
developer
perspective,
but
also
from
that.
You
know
platform
wars,
perspective
where
he
has
already
raised
this
money.
B
Now,
it's
almost
impossible
for
people
to
raise
that
money
and
compete
has
a
much
much
higher
chance
of
being
that
leading
DAP
platform
than
something
new
coming
along.
So
the
last
thing
we're
gonna
talk
about
on
this
week's
episode
of
the
podcast
is
more
of
a
teaser
for
a
future
episode,
but
Dan
put
out
a
recent
blog
post
that
I
think
a
lot
of
people
read.
B
A
lot
of
people
are
confused
by
called
proposal
for
a
OS
resource,
renting
and
rent
distribution,
and
basically,
what
this
is
is
a
way
for
us
token
holders
to
lease
out
their
yo
s
to
DAP
developers
that
want
to
utilize
the
CPU
and
the
bandwidth
associated
with
those
tokens.
But
it
does
so
in
a
pretty
interesting
way.
It
actually
introduces
two
new
tokens,
one
which
is
Rex
one,
which
is
SEO
s--
sort
of
stake
TOS,
but
rather
than
trying
to
dive
in
and
sort
of
explain
this
really
complex
concept
to
you.
B
Now
we're
gonna
have
Leo
Ribeiro,
who
now
works
at
block.
One
used
to
work
with
us
at
cypher
glass,
we're
gonna.
Have
him
come
on
the
episode
in
the
next
couple
weeks,
once
he
gets
settled
into
his
new
position
there
and
really
dive
into
this
and
explain
what
it
is
and
what
it
means
for
you
as
a
Neos
token
holder,
so
stay
tuned
for
that.
A
The
main
gist
of
what
Dan's
proposing
is
he
wants
for
developers
to
have
the
ability
to
build
on
the
ears
platform
without
taking
on
the
risk
of
the
volatility
of
the
es
tokens.
It
kind
of
takes
that
away,
and
it
also
is
going
to
incentivize
not
only
for
people
to
holy-o's
tokens
with,
because
they'll
be
able
to
rent
them
out,
but
it
also
encourages
them
to
vote
for
block
producers
because
there's
a
mandate
to
be
able
to
rent
out
your
tokens.
A
B
A
Week,
we'll,
hopefully
have
two
episodes.
I
have
some
guests
lined
up
we're
just
trying
to
work
out
the
schedule
of
timing
for
this,
but
hopefully
next
week,
we'll
have
two
episodes
like
we've
been
promising.
You
guys
who
want
to
do
more
episodes
we're
also
considering
different
ways
to
implement
video
into
this.
We've
had
a
lot
of
requests
on
YouTube.
Typically,
when
we
record
these
podcasts,
our
original
intent
was
we
get
most
of
our
listens
on
iTunes
actually
and
on
soundcloud.
A
C
A
Having
a
lot
of
requests
of
wanting
wanting
video
and
right
now,
we
don't
have
the
video
capabilities
because
we're
doing
these
on
set
in
person.
So
you
think
the
typical
web
show
are
V
logs
for
EOS
or
any
other
crypto
show
it's
usually
one
person
on
like
their
laptop
video,
and
then
they
have
the
green
screen.
In
the
background,
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
that
we
could
present
you
guys
with
a
visual
without
it.
Looking
weird
I
guess:
yeah.
B
And
I
think
what
we're
really
shooting
for
we're.
Looking
at
sort
of
expanding
everything
us
into
something
much
bigger
than
just
this
one
show.
Maybe
that'll
include
a
new
studio
where
we
have
multiple
camera
angles,
similar
to
Joe,
Rogan
podcast.
You
know
we
can
pull
interesting
articles
and
stats
and
quit
market
cap
and
all
this
stuff
up
on
a
screen
for
you
guys
to
see
and
maybe
even
watch
a
long
live
someday.
So
we're
going
on
a
lot
of
exciting
things,
for
everything
is
in
the
background,
so
stay
tuned
for
that.