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A
I
wanted
to
dive
deep
into
a
somewhat
controversial
subject
at
the
moment,
and
that
is
the
Yoast
worker
proposal
system
or
the
WPS
to
assist
me
in
my
efforts
to
educate
the
community
on
this
very
important
and
controversial
subject:
I
invited
the
number
two
and
number
three
ranked
block
producers
in
the
world.
Yoast
New
York
in
US
Canada
will
be
discussing
both
the
pros
and
the
cons
of
the
worker
proposal
system,
as
well
as
the
different
ways
in
which
the
block
producers
themselves
fit
into
the
mix.
A
Now
before
I
kick
off.
The
show
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
to
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A
A
A
Why
don't
you
introduce
yourself,
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
who
you
are
your
background,
how
you
get
started
with
US
Canada
a
little
bit
bow
to
US,
Canada
and
finish
it
off
with
another
block
producer
candidate
or
maybe
add
app
that
you
think
deserves
a
little
bit
of
attention
that
it's
not
currently
getting
sure.
Well,
thanks.
B
First
off
sack
for
having
me
on
so
I'm
Josh
from
Neos
Canada
I,
take
care
of
governance
and
community
for
your
kind
of
the
right.
Now
we're
a
pretty
quickly
growing
team
and
so
we're
just
brought
in
a
you
know:
a
Chinese
community
manager,
maybe
looking
at
another
person
to
work
with
me
on
the
english-speaking
side,
since
that's
where
a
lot
of
stuff's
going
on
because
Canada
as
a
team
or
our
motto,
is
leading
through
technology.
So
we
have
I'm
one
of
the
few
non
tech
people.
We
have
a
team.
B
Let's
work
together
on
a
few
tech
projects
in
the
past,
mainly
a
large
security
division
over
at
Intel
and
we're
trying
to
bring
that
expertise
that
knowledge
into
the
EO
space
and
just
the
blockchain
space
really
excites
us
all.
So
we're
super
excited
to
be
part
of
it
and
in
terms
of
who
I
think
is
not
getting
enough
recognition
in
terms
of
block
reducer
candidates,
there's
really
a
long
list
of
who
I
think
should
be
getting
some
more
recognition.
A
C
First
of
all,
totally
cheating
you
said
mentioned
one
and
now
mentioned
like
30,
but
that's
okay,
that's,
okay,
Josh,
they're,
everybody's
right
there.
There
are
really
just
wait.
It's
there
are
way
too
many
good
groups
to
just
say
one,
but
I'll
try
to
keep
it
to
one
but
hey
everyone.
My
name
is
Kevin
Rose,
I'm,
co-founder
and
head
of
community
for
us
New
York
I
am
also
a
non
tech
muggle.
So
to
speak.
C
So
that's
a
which
is
great
that
we've
we
were
able
to
talk
about
worker
proposal
system
today,
heõs
New
York
is
a
self-funded
self-owned
block
producer
I'm
an
owner.
There
are
two
other
owners
and
and
were
very
transparent
about
that
and
our
disclosures
we
were
actually
founded.
We
were
the
first
Western
bloc
producer
to
announce
ourselves
to
the
community
back
in
January
and
it
was
it
was
in
the
recovery
room
after
my
daughter
was
born.
That
I
had
the
phone
call
of
my
co-founder
Rick
Schlessinger,
where
we
decided.
C
You
know
we're
not
going
to
wait
for
these
block
producers
anymore,
which
we
hadn't
seen
any
last
November
at
the
time.
We
said
we're
going
to
do
this
ourselves,
and
you
know,
after
reading
the
white
paper
30
40
times,
and
and
really
you
know,
we
bought
into
the
vision
of
what
Yeo's
can
do
and
what
it
can
be
and
and
we're
just
honored
to
to
be
able
to
be
a
part
of
it
full-time.
My
background
is
in
marketing
and
communications.
C
I've
spent
my
career
working
with
Fortune
500
automotive
companies
like
Toyota,
BMW,
Mini,
Cooper
and
Ford,
and
this
is
unlike
any
challenge.
I've
ever
been
a
part
of.
So
it's
it's,
it's
not
really.
It's
not
really
a
job.
It's
not
really
work!
It's
this!
This
Japanese
concept
of
iki
guy
this,
like
purpose
sense
of
purpose,
what
you,
what
you're
good
at
what
you're
passionate
about
what
the
world
needs
and
what
you
can
get
paid
for.
So
this
is
this.
Is
that
and
I?
Imagine
it's
that
for
for
many
people,
not
just
us.
C
This
is
real
great
to
be
a
part
of
it
for
for
one
block
producer.
That
I
think
should
get
more
attention.
There's
one
project
in
particular
that
I
spoke
with
them
about
when
I
was
in
Shanghai
with
Josh.
Actually
it's
a
OS
meso
and
they
are
very
interested
in
the
the
integrity
of
stuff.
Their
state
elections
in
Latin
America
we
people
are,
are
literally
killed,
sometimes
over
the
the
integrity
of
the
boat
counts,
and
they
want
to
put
it
on
the
blockchain,
which
is
a
world-changing
thing
and
also
a
very
risky
thing.
C
A
A
C
Sure
it's
just
the
it's.
The
idea
that
going
off
of
the
the
Genesis
snapshot
makes
sense
for
a
little
while
when
the
chain
launched,
but
there
are
new
token
holders
and
for
people
who
are
not
developers,
airdrops
are
a
big
catalyst
for
getting
it
a
big
incentive
for
getting
into
Yeoh
so
to
preclude
them
from
any
future
airdrops
because
they
may
have
not
gotten
a
memo
for
when
the
genesis
snapshot
went
down,
it's
a
disservice
to
the
network
overall.
C
So
so
we
just
it's
just
a
script
that
runs
pulls
the
we
figured
out
how
to
pull
a
full
count
snapshot,
which
is
not
as
easy
as
it
sounds.
You
think
it
would
be,
but
it's
not
and
it
just
posts
one
CSV
file
every
every
day.
It
actually
might
be
every
hour
now,
but
so,
if
your
adaptive
Ella
per
and
you
want
to
drop
to
a
more
recent
snapshot
of
the
network,
go
to
you
snapshots,
dot,
IO
right.
A
B
One
thing:
that's
very
important
that
we're
working
on
at
the
moment
would
be
the
referendum
tool
just
a
way
to
pull
community
consensus
opinions
anything
that
you'd
want
to
get
people
voting
on
where
we've
been
working,
pretty
with
especially
eos
nation
and
team,
grey
mass
on
that
and
a
couple
of
other
guys
as
well.
That
have
been
really
instrumental
in
that
conversation
and
actually
funny
enough
it
tied
into
yours,
new
york.
B
Where
the
last
conversation
we
had
with
the
referendum
group,
we
realized
hey,
we
need
good
snapshot
tools
to
be
set
up,
so
we
can
cross
verify,
make
sure
that
no
one's
trusting
any
single
or
you
know
only
two
entities
to
get
information
from.
So
as
soon
as
we
started.
Talking
about
that,
I
went
on
telegram
pulled
in
buddy
deck
from
from
us
new
york
said:
hey,
you
need
tweak
the
snapshot
you're
taking
to
be.
You
know
to
really
help
us
out
in
the
referendum
right
away.
He
gets
on
it.
Those
guys
are
super
responsive.
C
Want
I
don't
want
Josh
to
downplay
it,
the
the
referendum
contract
or
the
the
method
that
we,
you
know
identify
our
solicit
token
holder
opinion
to
act
is
probably
the
most
important
fundamental
project
for
yose
public
blockchain
at
the
maintenance
and
Josh
and
all
the
block
producers
Walker's
Kansas
that
I
mentioned
are
doing
a
fantastic
job.
We
you
know
there.
C
A
C
Actually,
all
all
changes
period
have
to
go
through
the
block
producers,
the
the
referendum
contract
or
any
referendum
is
like
the
blockchain
doesn't
recognize
at
this
point,
unless
Josh
and
and
US
Canada
and
everyone
else
has
simply
one
in
the
future
I'm
unaware
of
they.
It
does
not
recognize
token
holder
opinion.
So
it's
really
it's
a
signal
for
block
producers
to
feel
comfortable
that
what
they're
doing
is
representative
of
of
the
network
and.
A
B
That's
that's
exactly
it,
so
the
voters
would
vote
on
the
different
referendums
and
then
we
as
the
block
producers
at
the
top
21.
We
would
take
that
signal
and
say
hey.
This
is
the
will
of
the
community.
We
should
execute
this
and
where
the
community
has
a
check
and
balance
on.
That
is,
if,
let's
say
they
say
yes
on
proposal
X
and
then
the
bps
do
not
put
that
proposal
through.
B
Well
then,
at
that
point
it's
up
to
the
community
to
down
vote
that
block
reducer,
because
they're
not
listening
to
the
community's
will
anymore
they've
shown
themselves
to
not
listen
to
it.
So
there's
a
bit
of
a
check
and
balance,
and
if
we
have
enough
voting
participation
to
pass
through
a
referendum,
that
means
we
should
be
seeing
enough
voting
participation
to
down
vote
or
down
votes
the
wrong
word,
but
up
vote
other
block
reducers
to
remove
that
block
that
non-compliant
block
reducer.
A
May
imagine
if
that's
how
our
act
or
real-life
governments
worked.
So
you
we
have
some
areas
in
the
United.
States
I
mean
gun
control
abortion,
some
really
touchy
subjects
where
a
lot
of
times,
if
you
pulled
the
public,
they
would
have
an
opinion
one
way.
But
then,
if
you
look
at
what
you're
their
local
congressmen
are
voting
for
or
supporting
it
might
be,
the
other.
That's.
C
A
B
Well,
to
get
the
worker
proposal
system
into
place,
it's
good
to
take
a
referendum
just
because
it's
a
change
to
the
system
as
it
stands.
There
is
no
WPS,
that's
an
acronym.
We
use
for
the
word
proposal
system
already
in
place,
so
it's
gonna
take
the
community
to
say
hey.
This
is
what
we
want,
or
this
is
not.
We
want
or
hey.
We
would
like
this
if
we
made
such
changes,
but
first
you
gotta
start
gathering
those
data
points
so
yeah
the
referendum
is
the
only
way
to
bootstrap
it.
B
A
B
So
the
WPS
is
a
collection
of
tokens
that
is
funded
by
the
inflation
of
the
u.s.
system.
So
for
those
who
don't
know,
there's
5%
inflation
that
gets
created
yearly
on
EOS
and
it
basically
inflation
accrues.
Every
block.
1%
of
the
inflation
goes
towards
paying
block
reducers.
The
4%
remainder
goes
into
an
account
called
es,
IO
dot,
saving
and
that
account
basically
it's
its
intended
usage
is
for
whatever
the
community
deems
to
be
worthwhile
funding.
Basically
anything
that
the
community
wants
to
see
funded
by
the
chain
can
be
funded.
B
So
this
means,
if
someone
can't
get
VC
funding
or
private
funding
or
can't
self
fund
something
they
can
actually
go
to
the
chain
and
say
hey
I'd
like
to
do
Project.
X
I
will
need
this
many
tokens,
a
thousand
tokens
and
here's
the
deliverable
and
when
I
will
deliver
it
to
you.
Would
you
like
to
fund
this
or
not,
and
the
community
can
vote
on
that
and
say?
Yes,
we
want
to
give
this
person
funding,
because
it's
gonna
bring
forth.
You
know
great
rewards
for
us
as
a
whole,
so
the
idea
would
be.
B
A
C
C
So
so
in
the
beginning
we
were
involved
less
so
less
so
as
time
went
on.
But
but
now
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
it's
a
controversial
topic,
but
things
some
some
low-hanging
fruit
that
the
the
worker
proposal
fund
could
be
used
for
is
right.
Now,
yo,
sis,
a
new
technology,
the
EOS
IO
software
and
it's
primarily
maintained
by
block
one
and
everyone
in
in
the
ecosystem,
is
sort
of
at
their
the
the
mercy
of
their
good
graces.
C
They
have
yes
over
and
over
said,
we
will
continue
to
support
the
eoseo
software
for
very
long
time
and
they
have
a
lot
of
incentive
to
do
that.
They
own
10%,
of
the
EOS
on
them
on
the
public
bar
chain.
But
what
if
something
were
to
happen?
That
knowledge
is
centralized
and
over
time
it
will
distribute
as
people
get
familiar
with
it,
but
if
they
were
to
say
okay,
we're
done
we,
if
that
we
are,
we
are
no
longer
supporting
the
worker
proposal
fund
would
be
a
great
way
to
say.
A
It's
interesting
that
you
mentioned
regulation
I,
don't
know
how
long
it
was
ago,
but
I
made
a
prediction
that
block
one
at
some
point
was
going
to
propose
something
that
the
community
would
be
completely
against,
just
to
prove
that
they
are
not
a
centralized
authority
controlling
the
main
net
and
I
I.
Don't
know
if
this
is
the
case
with
the
den
Larimer
recently
saying
he's
against
the
WPS
and
he
wants
to
wipe
out
the
4%
inflation
hiepro.
He
very
well.
He
has
good
reason
to
state
that
opinion.
His
opinion
was
because
of
oil.
A
Manipulation
could
basically
turn
the
WPS
into
an
es
printing
press
to
just
if
you're
aware,
with
a
lot
of
tokens,
you're
able
to
vote
in
the
projects
that
you
support
and
they
might
not
be
beneficial
to
the
community.
But
I
I
also
believe
that
it
could
be
a
play
on
their
side
to
show
that
they
don't
have
the
final
say
on
what
happens
on
the
main
net
and
they
could
point
to
this
and
say
dan
said
he
was
against
the
WPS
and
because
block
1
might
believe
it
has
regulation.
A
Issues
like
you
mentioned,
but
the
community
I
hope
I'm
supporting
the
WPS
I'll.
Ask
you
guys
in
a
second
your
side
of
it,
but
I
support
it.
Recently,
a
Shora
posted
a
Twitter
pool
where
he
asked
everyone.
Do
you
support
the
EOS
worker
proposal
system
and
38%
of
the
Twitter
follow
his
Twitter
followers
said
no
scrap
it
completely.
A
B
With
I'm
gonna
combine,
you
know,
sections
2,
&
3
of
Ash's
Twitter
poll,
because
basically
the
first
one
is
get
rid
of
it.
The
other
one
is
yes:
let's
do
it
and
then
some
of
those
people
had
a
caveat
I'm
with
pushing
it
through,
obviously,
I've
been
working
on
it,
and
so
it's
something
I
definitely
want
to
see
happen.
B
I
do
a
Gris
that
4%
is
too
high.
It
should
be
noted
that
the
4%
that's
going
into
that
fund
is
just
a
holdover
from
previous
iterations
of
how
block
producers
were
going
to
be
paid.
Originally,
it's
supposed
to
be
the
5%
inflation
get
is
hard-coded
into
the
into
the
code
and
then
block
producers
as
a
group
would
bid
hey.
This
is
how
much
of
the
inflation
we
believe
should
be
going
towards
bla
producers,
and
then
the
median
amount
would
be
what
gets
given
to
block
producers.
B
So,
let's
just
say
that
that
ended
up
being
3%,
then
it
would
be
2%.
The
remaining
of
the
5
would
go
towards
the
WPS
fund,
so
the
4%
is
just
a
holdover
from
that
and
I
think
that
does
need
to
be
lowered.
The
WPS
working
group
right
now
we
have
not
proposed
a
lower
amount
because
we
don't
believe
that's
our
place
to
propose.
We
believe
that
that
is
something
that
should
be
put
up
to
referendum
as
soon
as
possible
because
4%,
yes,
it
is
a
large
fund.
B
It's
it's
a
honeypot,
that's
a
looked
at
I'm
sure
by
people
who
are
looking
to
attack
it,
and
so
we
need
to
figure
out
what
is
that
right
amount
and
only
data
is
going
to
be
the
way
that
we
get
that.
So
how
do
we
spend
funds?
Is
it
worthwhile
to
spend
those
funds?
What
comes
back
in
terms
of
return
towards
the
ecosystem,
and
we
may
see
hey?
This
gets
really
great
return
for
the
ecosystem
as
a
whole,
and
maybe
4%
is
the
right
amount,
but
the
whole
thing
is
we
don't
know
that
just
yet.
C
Well,
first
I
want
to
talk
about
when
you
were.
You
were
mentioning
regulation
and
and
block
one
sort
of
throwing
a
curve
off
that
they
knew
the
community
would
be
again
so
that
they
could
say
see.
Look
we're
not
in
charge.
I
think
that
there's
a
pattern
that
Dan
is
exhibiting,
and
that
is
going
firstly
to
the
example
that
Josh
mentioned
it
used
to
be
that
median
bid
which
actually
it
was
meant
to
protect
block.
C
It
may
have
been
a
conversation
internally
at
block
1,
but
we
don't
know
he
capped
it
at
1%
to
avoid
the
honey
pot
effect
and,
and
now
he's
saying,
get
rid
of
the
4%
to
do
the
same
thing.
So
I
think
that
this
is
a
pattern,
so
I'm
not
sure
that
it's
like
I,
don't
think
there
are
any
ulterior
ulterior
motives
there,
but
for
specifically
for
the
4%
fund,
I
believe
with
the
EOS
New
York
believes
that
we
should
keep
the
worker
proposal
system
and
burn
all
of
the
funds.
C
If
that's
one
a
month,
if
that's
one
a
quarter,
you
know
I
do
not
know,
but
but
it
going
back
to
what
Josh
said
as
well,
it's
it.
This
is
up
to
the
community
to
decide
so
even
lowering
the
inflation
to
one
percent
or
whatever
it
is.
It's
got
to
be
put
to
a
vote.
It's
not
a
decision
that
the
block
producers
can
make
awesome.
B
It's
somewhere
there,
you
can
always
check
if
anyone's
interested,
to
see
where
that
fund
is
currently
at
go
to
any
block,
explore
that
you,
like
just
type
in
for
the
account
name,
a
o,
SiO
dot,
saving,
not
saving
without
an
S.
At
the
end,
a
lot
of
people
mix
that
up
and
you'll
be
able
to
see.
You
know
how
many
tokens
are
currently
in
there.
I
haven't
checked
in
a
few
days,
but
I
have
lost
memory.
It's
around
6
million
tokens
about.
A
So
the
math
I
have
in
front
of
me:
I
did
math
of
six
million
just
for
reference,
so
six
million
tokens
times
four
point:
seven
dollars
is
about
twenty
eight
million
dollars.
If
the
token
price
was
$10,
it
would
be
worth
sixty
million
dollars
and
if
it
was
$20,
it'd
be
120
million
dollars
and
you
figured
the
main.
That's
been
live
for
a
couple
months
now.
A
If
this
continued
for
an
entire
year,
I
think
when
you
guys
said
it
it'd
be
about
a
half,
a
almost
half
a
billion
dollars
of
funds,
and
that
does
sound
a
bit
high
and
that
would
be
at
a
twenty
dollar
value
which
was
around
our
all-time
high.
We
might
not
get
there
again
this
year,
who
knows,
but
even
if
it
was
half
that
two
hundred
fifty
million
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money
and
it
could
be
seen
as
like.
You
guys
had
a
honey
pot
for
reference.
A
The
etherium
foundation
had
I
saw
an
article
is
published
in
May,
so
it's
probably
less
now,
but
they
had
assets
around
two
hundred
million
dollars
and
that's
kind
of
used
to
fund
like
pet
projects
and
research.
That
might
not
be
profitable,
but
are
there
any
other
block
chains
that
have
anything
resembling
what
the
WPS
is
trying
to
become
I
know,
there's
something
on
Josh.
Are
you
familiar
with
that
I
think
you
posted
something
on
the
ESG
Oh
forms,
while
back
yeah.
B
So
when
I
first
got
involved
with
the
WPS
group,
the
first
thing
I
look
to
do
is
cease.
Are
there
any
others
that
have
this
already?
The
main
one
was?
There
was
also
the
names
escape
me
I
think
it
was
deep
red
or
Definity
I,
just
at
this
moment,
I'm
just
blanking
on
that
they
also
have
a
similar
system
that
wasn't
fully
integrated
when
I
was
looking
at
it,
but
was
I
mean
when
I
focused
on
I'll
just
give
it
quick
points.
I
got
a
few
quick
points
on
that.
B
Basically,
the
way
works
is
anyone
who
is
a
master
node
and
a
master
node
is
someone
who
has,
you
know,
declared
themselves
to
be
a
master
node
and
holds
at
least
1,000.
So,
basically,
you
can
think
of
it
as
people
who
were
whales
and
who
want
to
be
part
of
the
system,
they
are
the
ones
who
get
to
vote
on
any
W
their
version,
the
WPS.
The
way
it
works
is
someone
creates
a
pre
proposal
to
the
community.
B
Let's
give
an
example:
I'd
like
to
do
an
advertising
campaign
in
my
city,
because
I
think
we'll
get
a
lot
of
good
traction.
Here's!
What
I'm
asking
for
I
want
500
tokens
to
run
this
campaign,
then
people
would
say:
hey
I,
think
you
can
do
this
better
with
400
tokens
or
have
you
thought
about
including
this
person
who
also
lives
in
your
city
and
they
get
feedback
from
the
community
before
going
for
an
actual
vote
once
they
feel
confident
that
they've
gone
through
the
proper,
proper
pre-proposal
stage.
B
B
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
Dan
and
block
wouldn't
look
to
the
system
as
well
when
setting
up
those
proposal
thresholds
and
then
from
there
there's
a
certain
amount
of
monthly
that
gets
allocated
and
kind
of
like
what
Kevin
was
saying
before,
but
there's
a
you
know
a
cup
and
the
faucet
does
not
have
to
be
turned
on
until
the
cup
is
underneath
the
faucet.
They
do
not
create
the
tokens
unless
there's
a
need
for
those
tokens
to
be
created,
based
on
which
proposals
have
passed
or
not
passed,
be
a
proposal
system.
B
Another
thing
within
there
as
well,
that
was
very
interesting.
Is
they
have
a
boost
program?
So,
if
someone's
looking
for
10
4
through
the
proposal,
so
I
wanna
do
a
really
small
project.
It's
not
worth
it
for
them
to
give
a
5
proposal
fee,
but
they
didn't
want
to
create
this
barrier
entry
for
4
people
to
make
a
proposal,
so
they
have
a
mini
WPS.
So
to
speak,
and
that's
something
we've
looked
at
as
well
within
the
WPS
group.
B
How
do
we
make
sure
that
someone
who
needs
you
know
a
small
amount
of
funding
has
somewhere
to
go
as
well?
So
we
don't
want
this
to
be
for
only
large
projects,
because
that
might
cut
out
all
the
small
projects
that
are
very
worthwhile
and
it
can
bring
in
people
another
great
thing
they
did
was
start
what
they
call
the
watch,
which
is
similar
to
what
we
want
to
do
with
an
oversight
committee.
It's
just
a
way
of
making
everything
accountable
to
the
community.
B
So
if
you
get
funds
from
the
WPS,
we
would
expect
you
to
give
you
know
progress
reports.
We've
met
milestone
a
B
and
C,
but
we're
still
lagging
on
D,
so
to
speak.
So
this
way
the
community
feels,
like
their
funds,
are
either
being
well-spent
or
not,
based
on
actual
information
that
we
gather-
and
this
way
instead
of
having
to
go
to
each
individual
team
that
runs
their
own
proposal.
We
have
a
centralized
spot
because
there's
a
lot
of
information
out
there
and
it's
really
hard
to
find
it.
B
A
Kevin,
what
what
type
of
projects
it
once
the
WPS
gets
implemented?
Neos,
there's
a
core
group
of
projects
that
are
seen
as
almost
like
an
emergency
like
we
need
them.
What
are
some
of
those
projects
or
categories
of
projects
that
you
believe
need
funding
like
yesterday?
That
could
be
helped
out
through
the
WPS.
Well,.
C
I
could
tell
you
the
ones
that
are
at
least
asking
for
funding
whether
or
not
I
think
that
they
need
it
is
it's
up
to
the
doesn't.
It's
irrelevant
in
the
community
can
decide,
but
EE
CAF
is
one
of
them.
If
we're
going
to
have
an
arbitration
forum,
whether
it
exists
at
the
contract
layer
or
the
system
layer,
whichever
camp
you
sit
in
they're
broke
and
they're
volunteers.
C
So
really,
if,
if
you
want
them
in
either
side
contract
or
our
system
layer,
if
we
don't,
if
they
are
not
funded
somehow
soon,
then
they
will
just
simply
disappear.
They
they
have
a
fee
schedule
that
has
been
released,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
has
started
to
in
paid
or
if
it's
been
implemented
or
when,
but
the
the
conti
the
projects
that
I'm
most
concerned
with
are.
C
If
you
look
at
aetherium,
you
know
there
are
a
number
of
things
that,
because
we've,
the
EOS
community
thinks
that
us
does
better,
but
what
aetherium
does
so
well
right
now
is
have
a
very
robust
set
of
developer
tools
that
make
it
very
easy
to
be
an
aetherium
developer.
The
truffle
suite
with
ganache
drizzle
and
truffle,
it's
it's
an
integrated
environment
where
there's
testing
asset
pipeline.
C
It's
very
easy,
like
one
click
test
network
that
you
can
launch,
we
need.
We
need
to
build
those
things
in
is
because
EOS
is
only
as
valuable
as
what
we
build
on
top
of
it.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
now,
I
think
that
block
producers
are
taking
it
upon
themselves
to
do
this,
so
we'll
get
there,
but
probably
much
more
slowly
than
if
we
said
here
is
half
a
million
dollars
we're
going
to
hire
six
engineers.
This
is
their
job
for
the
next
365
days.
C
B
So
I
was
kind
of
mentioned.
There
was
decaf,
I,
think
security
testing
of
code.
The
amount
of
patches
that
get
released
from
blocking
right
now
is
wild.
The
other
day
we
had
two
patches
within
three
hours,
just
because
there
was
a
latency
issue
that
was
being
debugged
but
I
think
were
somewhere
around
patch
15,
16
or
17
in
where
were
three
not
even
three
months
into
this
project.
B
So
there's
a
dizzying
pace
being
set
of
patches
that
are
coming
out
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
those
get
properly
tested
before
being
put
onto
the
production
main
net,
so
I
think
paying
a
team
of
people
to
test
those
things
create
different
testing
Suites,
so
we
can
cross
verify,
let's
have
at
least
three
different
Suites
of
tests.
So
this
way
you
know
if
to
get
the
same
answer.
We
can
be
very
confident
and
three
get
the
same
answer.
We
know
we're
definitely
good
to
go.
B
I,
think
things
like
managing
the
github
repo,
so
making
sure
that
things
are
not
passed
in
as
tags.
That
shouldn't
be.
That's
super
super
important
as
well
so
making
sure
that
the
the
help
of
the
chain
is
up
kept.
I
think
those
are
the
really
important
things
that
need
to
be
funded
as
soon
as
possible
and
then
going
forward.
B
C
Know,
except
I
want
to
jump
in
and
comment
on
a
couple
things
there
for
the
testing.
It's
it's
certainly
on
its
face
seems
like
it
would
be
a
great
thing
of
value
to
the
chain,
but
I
think
an
important
caveat
there
is
that
know
if
something
were
to
be
tested
and
then
still
fail
in
production.
The
those
who
were
doing
the
testing
are
those
this
group
established,
that's
paid
for
by
the
chain
would
not
be
held
accountable.
It
would
be
the
block
producers
that
would
have
been
held
accountable
at
the
end
of
the
day.
C
So
if
there
was,
if
we
wanted
to
establish
a
group
that
would
create
a
suite
of
tools
that
then
block
producers
could
adopt
or
not
that
would
be
fine,
but
ultimately
we're
you
know
yes,
New
York
is
gonna
still
do
the
testing
and
I
know
US
Canada
is
gonna,
do
the
same
thing
as
well.
There's
no
way
Alex
is
gonna
like
take
someone
else's
work
and
say
this
is
good
enough.
C
He's
gonna,
you
know,
stay
up
for
24
hours
straight
and
dig
through
it,
but
the
and
also
the
the
github
repo
you
know
this
it
at
first.
This
seemed
like
something
that
was
very
important
to
manage
as
a
group,
but
as
time
went
on
and
when
we,
when
I
started,
to
learn
more
about
how
steam
it
was
was
monitoring
these
things
all
the
the
witnesses
on
steam.
C
A
What
a
lot
of
people-
probably
I-
guess
they'd,
probably
know,
but
a
lot
of
work
being
done
on
EOS
is
being
done
by
a
large
group
of
volunteers
right
now
and
I.
Think
if
we
want
this
to
grow
into
what
we
all
envision
it
to
be,
this
whole
thing
could
be
looked
at
almost
like
a
dhow
we're,
like
you
said
you
could
have
a
group
of
five
engineers
whose
job
is
strictly
to
review
code
and
make
make
sure
it's
safe,
so
they
would
essentially
be
employed
by
EOS
IO.
A
B
I
know
I
think
it's
super
like
super
interesting
super
cool
and
just
to
touch
back
on
what
Kevin
just
said
about
managing
the
repo
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying,
but
it
doesn't
touch
on
the
fact
that
a
developer
coming
into
the
space
that
and
have
the
time
to
now
go
to
all
the
different
repos
and
create
their
own.
It's
just
a
four
developer.
Adoption
I
think
that
will
help
out
a
lot.
They
know
where
to
get
trusted
code
from
that
they
can
then
use
to
deploy
their
own
tests
net
I.
B
C
A
There's
been
a
bit
of
criticism
on
both
sides
of
this
issue:
Kyle
from
es
Phibes
and
the
awakened
men.
He
posted
a
video
I
watched
where
he
was
against
the
4%
inflation
and
double
ups,
because
he
believed
that
some
of
the
top
block
producers
should
be
paying
for
a
lot
of
this
stuff.
So
what
do
you
guys
have
as
a
response
for
that
and
I'll
start
with
Josh
sure.
B
B
It
means
that
we
don't
have
to
rely
on
block
one
and
we
don't
have
to
rely
on
the
bp's
to
fund
these
projects,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
bps
are
gonna
work
on
projects
that
are
interesting
to
them
and
where
they
see
that
there's
value
being
created,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
their
opinion
is
always
going
to
be
right.
Maybe
it's
that
little
project
that
no
one
really
thought
about,
or
no
one
thought
was
needed
that
will
really
change
the
face
of
Eros.
B
We
don't
know
and
to
say
that
we
know
that
going
into.
It
is
a
little
bit
naive
in
my
opinion,
so
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
could
fund
and
encourage
people
to
bring
forth
their
ideas
to
the
to
the
ecosystem
and
also
to
rely
on
bps.
It
means
that
we
hope
that
all
bp's
have
the
skill
set
to
do
this,
to
be
a
block
producers
to
run
infrastructure,
to
keep
to
maintain
uptime
to
keep
your
security
up-to-date.
It
doesn't
mean
that
you're
a
great
developer,
a
great
c++,
smart
contract
writer.
B
A
And
I
think
a
lot
of
people
like
block
producers
on
the
surface,
people
think
they're
getting
like
very
well-paid,
and
that
was
meant
to
disincentivize
any
bad
behavior
like
bribing
for
for
the
block
producers,
because
they're
being
compensated
properly,
but
there's
no
guarantee
the
token
price
is
going
to
go
back
up
to
the
old
times.
High
all-time
highs
anytime
soon
it
might,
but
it
might
not,
it
could
go
down
further.
For
example,
at
today's
token
value
I
did
the
math.
A
It's
only
about
a
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
a
year
in
annual
revenue
for
each
block
producer
that
doesn't
leave
a
lot
of
extra
room.
If
you
consider
the
cost
of
actually
running
the
data
centers,
the
staff
that
and
then
just
having
some
savings
set
aside,
that
there's
not
a
lot
left
to
be
funding
anything
especially
anything
major.
How.
A
Oh,
oh
yeah,
so
let
me
clarify
that
thanks
for
kind
of
correcting
me
on
that,
that's
for
the
top
couple
of
block
producers
after
the
top
21.
It
significantly
drops
you
wouldn't
there's
not
going
to
be
much
left
over
at
all.
After,
like
today's
value,
you
you're
not
getting
paid
a
whole
lot
so
that
one
and
a
half
million
dollars,
that's
for
maybe
the
top
5
block
producers
just
to
clarify
and.
C
I
can
I
can
tell
you
that
we
spent.
We
are
running
this
like
a
start-up.
The
u.s.
new
york
is
a
start-up.
We
are
running
this
like
a
business.
We
were
self-funded,
we
are
self
owned.
We
put
our
in
our
own
money
to
make
this
happen
and
what
we
have
done
over
the
past.
You
know
week
and
a
half
is
slashed
budgets,
because
you
know
the
token
price
is.
It
was
a
eight.
C
It
was
at
12
now
it's
at
four
and
with
all
due
respect
to
Kyle
he's
not
looking
at
our
budgets,
he
does
not
know
everything
that
we
are
planning
on
doing
that.
We
believe
that
we
can
add
value
back
into
the
chain
and,
if
he
so
wishes,
he
can
tune
in
in
q1
when
we
present
those
budgets
and
what
we,
what
we
spent,
what
we
did,
what
we
accomplished,
as
you
know,
part
of
our
transparency
plan,
but
it's
not
as
much
money
as
everybody
is
thinking.
C
C
With
that
that
existed
for
maybe
two
weeks,
it
did
not
exist
after
that.
It
certainly
does
not
exist
now,
and
that
doesn't
mean
to
say
that,
like
I'm,
not
going
to
tell
us
New
York
is,
is
you
know,
struggling
we're
fine
and
we're
going
to
take
what
we
earn
and
we're
gonna
reinvest
it
back
in
the
chain,
but
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
make
a
gas
block.
Producers
cannot
afford
to
do
the
kinds
of
things
that
we're
talking
about
that
for
the
worker
proposal
fund
and
if
black
producers
were
meant
to
fund
a
CAF.
C
Well,
if
anyone
out
there
that's
thinking
well,
I
would
become
a
black
producer.
Well
would
you,
if
you
were
going
to
be
essentially
taxed
and
have
have
your
income
at
at
force
distributed
amongst
other
groups?
So
that's
something
to
consider
as
well.
It
may
be.
It
made
disincentivize
future
block
producers
from
entering
the
space
to
begin
with.
A
B
B
There
are
teams
in
slot
50
that
you
know
they're
making
enough
money
to
hopefully
keep
their
info
running
and
pay
themselves
a
decent
enough
salary.
So
they
can
continue
pushing
forward.
But
I
spoken
to
quite
a
few
block
reducers
where
some
of
their
staff
they
have
day
jobs-
and
this
is
there
on
the
side
thing,
because
they
can't
afford
to
actually
maintain
the
salaries
that
they
need
to
actually
promote
new
development
and
come
up
with
new
ideas
and
push
them
forward.
A
C
You
to
be
a
successful
block
producer
in
the
top
21.
You
need
to
communicate,
so
you
need
and
people
who
are
running
the
infrastructure
or
writing
the
code.
They
do
not
have
time
to
communicate
to
the
outside
to
the
outside
community.
You
need
communicate
in
multiple
languages,
so
you're
talking,
let's
say
at
least
two
people
that
one
person
is
speaking
English
and
one
person
is
speaking
another
prominent
non
English
language.
C
That's
non
technical
folks,
plus
you're,
talking
about
doing
running
your
businesses,
your
finances,
complying
to
regulation,
hiring
lawyers,
developing
your
infrastructure,
bare-metal
having
a
data
center
there's
and
then
all
your
value-add
projects
that
are
not
directly
related
to
running
your
infrastructure.
That
could
mean
it's
a
significant
investment,
we're
building
our
own
hardware
wallet.
You
know
that's
this!
It
is
expensive
to
be
able
to
become
and
maintain
a
position
as
a
block
producer.
A
I,
that's
why
I
brought
it
up,
because
I
wanted
to
give
you
guys
the
opportunity
to
communicate
that
because
it
kind
of
just
knowing
Robb
personally
and
they
were
in
the
top
21
for
maybe
the
first
couple
weeks.
Couple
I,
don't
remember
how
long,
but
now
they're
they're
like
at
38
and
like
it
there
not
getting
as
much
as
the
community
thinks
and
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there,
because
it
kind
of
bothers
me
that
people
think
otherwise,
and
it's
really
only
the
top
handful
of
block
producers
that
are
making
decent
money.
A
And
it's
not
even
a
lot
because,
like
you,
said,
there's
so
many
expenses
that
people
aren't
thinking
about,
they
think
you
just
throw
up
a
node
and
just
sit
on
your
hands
all
day.
But
that's
not
the
case.
There's
so
much
more
to
it,
especially
if
we're
thinking
about
the
longevity
of
this
whole
thing.
Yeah.
B
And
on
top
of
that,
in
terms
of
bringing
the
EOS
tokens
into
Fiat
to
pay
for
your
suppliers
or
pay
for
your
salary,
it
also
negates
the
idea
that
hey,
if
someone
makes
a
great
DAP,
but
if
we're
relying
on
block
reducers
to
come
up
with
new
taps
or
new
great
proposals
and
and
put
that
all
forth
to
the
community.
There's
going
to
be
tokens
that
are
given
needed
to
be
staked
for
CPU
and
for
net.
It's
a
bio
Ram.
A
C
A
C
It's
totally
fine,
but
the
the
prestige
far
outweighs
the
actual
compensation
and
and
like
I
said
in
the
beginning.
This
is
like
it's
a
key
guy.
This
is
a
purpose.
You
know
it's
not
work
is
his
life
and
and
I
loved
every
second
of
it
I'm
very
happy
that
I'm
able
to
do
this
full-time,
but
we're
we're
consistently
in
the
top
three
in
the
world
so
that
to
generalize.
C
The
rest,
like
Josh
said,
is
just
it's
probably
not
true
that
many
I've
spoken
to
many
self-funded
block
producers
that
are
that
have
not
yet
paid
themselves
or
in
standby
producers.
They
have
been
doing
this
consistently
for
almost
a
year
for
right,
but
anyway,
going
back
to
your
question
yeah.
So
black
one
has
no
contractual
obligation
to
do
anything
and
the
VC
fund,
the
VC
funds
that
they
have
set
up.
C
But
I
keep
hearing
that
this
is
the
the
most
well-funded
blockchain
in
the
world
and
there
certainly
is
a
lot
of
money
that
block
one
has,
but
they
are
under
no
obligation
to
to
funnel
that
towards
the
public
main
net
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
important
to
remember
yeah
and
the
reason.
Why
is
that
it
establishes
a
feeling
of?
C
What's
what's
the
word
for
basically
determining
one's
own
destiny?
It's
it's
in
our
own
hands.
If,
if
we
are
going
to
rely,
we
should
be
creating
a
framework
that
makes
entrepreneurial
developers
want
to
come
and
develop
on
us
and
if
block
one
adds
in
some
really
cool
projects.
Great
but
I'm,
not
counting
the
ones
that
there
yeah.
A
I
agree,
and
you
answered
exactly
how
how
is
hoping
you
would
is
that
these
VC
funds
as
a
VC,
a
VC,
is
main
role
is
to
make
money.
It's
not
necessarily
to
build
a
cool,
bakka,
Explorer
or
to
fund
an
arbitration
organization.
How
about
you
Josh
what?
What
role
do
you
believe
block
one
should
play
into
all
of
this
as
far
as
what
types
of
projects
they
should
be
funding.
B
Think
block
one
has
reached
out
to
people
that
they
believe
could
best
represent
them
in
terms
of
being
a
VC
and
deploying
those
funds
you
guys
had
on
recently
svk
crypto
who's
looking
to
go
after
smaller
amounts
of
funding.
You
know
half
a
million
dollars
a
million
dollars.
Obviously
someone
like
Mike
Novogratz,
a
galaxy.
B
They
gave
30
million
dollars
to
ever
appear,
so
there
are
some
different
tactics
that
are
being
deployed
and
I
think
block
almost
rights
in
using
a
few
different
feces
that
will
take
different
approaches
on
how
they're
gonna
deploy
that
capital
in
terms
of
how
it
relates
to
the
WPS.
As
you
guys
were
saying,
the
main
difference
is
VCS
need
to
make
a
return
on
that
investment,
whereas
the
WPS
should
not
be
making
a
return
on
that
investment.
So
gaps
that
are
developed
through
the
WPS
will
not
need
a
monetization
method.
B
They
certain
gaps
or
certain
smart
contracts
or
certain
things
that
are
great
for
the
community.
Have
no
monetization
method
possible,
something
like
security
testing,
there's
no
real
monetization
there
and
it
shouldn't
be
monetized.
It
should
be
work.
That's
done
for
the
sake
of
doing
that.
Work
just
because
the
chain
needs
it
in
terms
of
remaining
healthy.
If
we're
gonna
start
creating
gaps,
they
all
need
to
sell
user
data.
They
all
need
to
have
advertisement
built
in.
B
It
will
degrade
the
user
experience
most
likely,
whereas
if
we
can
create
a
very
clean
user
experience,
because
the
payment
for
the
development
of
that
project
was
done
by
the
chain
and
the
the
people
who
wanted
to
develop
that
got
paid
what
they
felt
was
commensurate
with
the
work
that
they're
gonna
put
forth,
then
they're
happy.
They
don't
need
that
ongoing
advertising
dollars
or
other
monetization
methods.
So
it
opens
up
the
door
vastly
to
what
can
be
proposed
to
be
created,
and
it
also
means
that
there
aren't
a
few
gatekeepers
that
are
making
those
choices.
B
The
idea
that
the
VCS
that
end
up
being
selected
is
not
the
full
billion
has
been
deployed
yet
that
they
all
have.
The
community's
interest
at
mind
in
every
single
facet
would
be
I've
naive
of
us
to
say,
because
they
are
probably
great
at
deploying
capital.
It
doesn't
mean
that
there
at
doing
Shane
health
upgrades
or
doing
charitable
work,
that
the
the
community
decides
is
a
good,
a
good
thing
to
use
funds,
for
there
are
things
that
the
community
will
feel
differently
about
than
those
VC's
themselves
and
to
say
that
block
one
has
already
made.
C
We
we
launched
a
dap
advisory
service
and
we've
received
emails
of
pitch
decks
and
we
make
phone
calls
and
we
give
feedback
and
we
work
with
them
to
hone
their
their
dap
idea.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
not
VC
and
we
don't
have
night.
We
have
neither
the
funds
nor
the
time,
nor
are
the
incentives
aligned
for
us
to
to
put
money
into
these
projects
and
expect
a
return
right,
because
going
back
to
what
josh
says
a
lot
of
this
is,
and
you
like
the
work
repulsive
fund.
C
That
may
not
be
as
big
as
block
one
and
there
may
be
dabs
that
want
to
talk
to
VC's,
but
can't
get
block
ones
attention
so
block
producers
are
uniquely
situated
in
the
community
to
field
these
entrepreneurial
developers
and
simply
filter
and
point
in
the
right
direction.
The
ones
that
are
good
enough
to
establish
vici
partners
I
think
that
we'll
see
more
of
that
happening
and
possibly
it
will
be
of
greater
impact
than
the
the
three
or
four
or
however,
many
huge
profile
projects
that
block
one
works
on.
C
A
Beyond
the
emergency
item,
the
big-ticket
items
from
that
are
expected
to
be
created
out
of
the
MVP
of
the
WPS.
What
are
some
of
the
projects
that
you
guys
like
would
like
to
be
funded?
After
all
of
that
has
been
all
of
the
emergency.
Things
have
been
taken
care
of
maybe
we're
two
years
into
the
chain
and
we're
ready
to
start
taking
on
smaller
projects
like
stuff
like
hackathons
and
education,
like
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
you
would
like
to
see
funded
because
right
now,
you
guys
are
in
a
unique
position.
A
There's
not
many
people
being
employed
with
a
salary
to
work
on
a
oh
says,
live
and
breathe
it
and
I'm
super
jealous
you
guys
you
get
to
do
that,
but
there's
thousands
and
thousands
of
other
people
that
want
to
get
involved
and
the
WPS
might
be
their
opportunity
to
do
so
to
add
value
to
the
ecosystem.
What
are
some
of
the
things
that
you
guys
would
like
to
see
when
we
get
to
that
point?
I'll
start
with
Josh
I.
B
Think
some
of
the
things
that
are
super
interesting
going
forward
will
be
education
hubs
so
right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
different
teams
or
proposing
a
different
place
where
you
can
go
for
gos,
related
courses
or
Yoast
related
developer
documents
or
what
have
you,
but
because
it's
so
scattered
it's
hard
to
know
where
to
trust
I
think
if
we
start
centralizing,
obviously,
is
a
bad
word
with
NGOs
but
start
to
centralize
where
people
go
for
information.
So
this
way
we
can
make
sure
the
information
is
correct.
B
It
has
been
vetted,
it
has
been
peer
reviewed,
and
this
way
someone
getting
started
in
the
space
knows
that
they
can
trust
that
information
I,
think
that
would
be
a
very
valuable
tool:
neutral
media
I'm.
If
you
look
at
Yoshiko
prior
to
the
launch,
everyone
was
looking
to
them.
I'm
sorry
within
the
english-speaking
community
was
looking
to
them
because
they
were
putting
out.
You
know:
they're
neutral,
unbiased
opinions
on
things,
but
because
they
weren't
being
funded,
they
didn't
have
a
source
of
income.
B
They
had
to
reach
out
and
start
to
work
for
block
reducers
or
work,
for
you
know,
adapts
anything
that
they
can
make
sure
to
provide
for
themselves.
So
the
idea
that
neutral
media
could
fund
itself
goes
against
the
whole
idea
of
neutral
media
I.
Think
watchdog,
groups
or
compliance
groups
are
great
because
right
now,
what's
going
on
a
lot
of
people,
don't
realize
this
is
you'll,
have
a
new
watchdog
group
that
starts
up.
B
You
know
one
every
week
and
they
all
send
out
emails
to
all
of
the
blog
producers
and
they
expect
to
get
a
response
and
not
to
say
that
that's
wrong
of
them
to
try
and
do.
But
it's
also
wrong
to
ask
a
block
producer
to
have
to
fill
out
compliance
metrics
for
everyone
who
will
ask
it
I
think
it
delays
progress
on
other
things.
It
dilutes
everyone's
time,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
your
question
that
you're
asking
is
the
right
question
to
ask.
B
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
asking
the
right
question
of
everyone
so
that
we
get
back
the
responses
that
are
actually
pertinent
to
the
community,
not
just
to
that
one
or
two
people
who
are
starting
up
a
new
compliance
group.
So
to
make
sure
we
have
more
focused
discussion
as
well.
It'll
help
a
lot
with
that.
Well,.
C
That
code,
you
know
we
almost
we
almost
hired
a
compliance
officer
there.
There
was
some.
There
were
some
people
in
the
community
that
I
we
were.
You
know
this
is
before
the
token
price
went
down
that
we
were
considering
like
okay.
This
part
of
this
person's
chief
responsibility
would
be
to
maintain
an
open
and
transparent
relationship
with
proxies
and
be
responsible
for
maintaining
accurate
information
on
voter
portals.
I
mean
that's,
you
know
this
is
the
kind
of
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
a
you
know,
we
believe
is
successful.
C
Block
producer
will
have
to
have
that's
a
full-time
person
pay
them.
You
know
if
you're,
paying
them
a
competitive
salary
wherever
they
are,
especially
the
United
States
you're
in
plus
taxes.
Everything
you're,
looking
at
like
six
figures
for
a
person
like
that
so
kind
of
going
back
to
the
to
the
topic
before,
but
the
yeah
and
I
was
actually
filling
out
compliance
stuff
this
morning
for
for
a
new
proxy,
but
you
know
it's
something
that
we
have
to.
We
have
to
do
right
now
and
that's
that's.
C
A
C
C
We
try
to
respond
to
everybody
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
it's
going
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
can't
anymore
and
that's
just
the
because
there's
only
so
much
time
in
the
day
and
we
and
you
know
I
hope
that
that
doesn't
get
interpreted
as
they
they
don't
care
anymore
or
they're,
not
interested
in
took
another
opinion.
It's
far
far
from
it.
It's
that
we're
just
trying
to
do
as
much
as
we
can
and
we
we
are
only
human
but
but
I
do
want
to
answer
yeah.
A
C
I
hope
that
there,
if,
if
the
work
proposal
system
goes
through-
and
there
is
enough
funding-
I
hope
that
there
can
be
small
projects
like
someone
reached
out
to
us
yesterday
and
they
said
we're
we're
building
a
dotnet,
c-sharp
developer
library
for
us
now
and-
and
they
said,
can
you
just?
Can
you
just
pay
for
us
to
do
this
and
my
response
was
well?
That's
that's
great.
This
is
the
kind
of
thing
we
need.
Unfortunately,
we
already
paid
ourselves
to
do
that
and
we're
done
here.
It
is,
but
maybe
there's
something
we
can
learn
together.
C
So
I
hope
that
there's
plenty
of
opportunity
for
those
very
small
projects
that
the
community
needs,
but
what
I
hope
like
pie
in
the
sky
dream
I
want
a
state
government
to
submit
a
proposal
for
the
worker
proposal
system
and
I
want
it
to
be
too
import
or
pay
for
the
deployment
of
a
u.s.
io
blockchain
system
for
some
kind
of
record-keeping,
whether
it
be
for
their
voting
system
or
land
title
deed
records,
something
like
that
I.
That
would
that
would
be
for
me
a
watershed
moment
in
in
my
life,
in
Oz,
in
blockchain.
A
Think
that's
awesome.
That
is
what
is
going
to
take.
The
WPS
allows
something
like
that
to
happen.
That's
almost
a
pipe
dream
talking
about
it
today,
but,
like
you
said
that
would
be
the
watershed
moment
would
be
almost
be
like
giving
a
grant
to
a
small
government
to
have
the
best
technology
of
their
property
records
in
the
world
better
than
any
other
government,
and
that's
an
awesome
awesome
goal
to
have
so
we're
coming
up
on
about
an
hour
here.
I
try
to
keep
these
short
I
think
to
finish
this
off.
B
Right
now,
US
Canada
is
really
focused
on
making
sure
we're
creating
tools
that
are
great
for
other
block
producers.
We've
made
a
fuel
thing,
a
few
things
like
automated
claim
reward
systems,
an
out-of-band
signing
system
so
that
people
can
keep
block,
reduce
you
can
keep
their
keys
off
of
their
production.
Node
things
like
that.
We're
also
looking
at
creating
very
in-depth
tools
to
look
at
the
blockchain
itself,
so
think
about
a
block
Explorer.
That
also
includes
a
lot
of
extra
data
to
see
you
know,
how
is
it
being
used?
B
What
are
some
of
the
aspects
that
we're
not
seeing
by
just
looking
at
vote
tallies
or
things
like
that?
But
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
tie
that
together
and
it
will
help
us
dig
and
dive
deeper
into
what's
a
block
trying
blockchain
trying
to
tell
us
at
the
end
of
the
day
of
blockchain,
is
just
a
massive
distributed
database
and
the
database
just
holds
a
lot
of
information,
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
unlock
that.
B
So
we're
going
on
that
Yossi
our
wallet
that
we've
created
it's
more
than
just
a
wallet,
it's
a
tool
that
does
a
lot
of
things
on
the
chain.
Just
actually,
yesterday,
in
our
telegram
group
someone
said:
hey:
is
it
possible
to
automate
selling
accounts?
Let's
say
I
don't
want
to
trust
party
B
and
they
want
to
buy
my
account.
For
whatever
reason
can
we
automate
that
process?
You
know
right
away.
Alex
from
our
team
jumps
on
codes.
B
It
up
says
like
ten
to
fifteen
twenty
minutes
later,
hey
I
wrote
it
up,
try
it
out,
let's
test
it,
let's
see
if
it
works,
because
we
need
to
see
what
does
the
community
wants
and
then
we
have
to
develop
those
tools
for
them.
So
just
continuing
continuing
to
listen
to
the
community
and
see
what
they
need
and
try
and
help
them
out
and
get
that
work
done
for
them.
C
And
and
first
of
all,
that's
all
awesome,
and
it
was
actually
Alex
was-
was
talking
about
a
tool
that
he
was
looking
to
create
this
morning.
That
I
mean
it's
a
whole
nother
topic
entirely,
but
I
was
a
big
fan
of
it.
I
hope
he
does
make
it
for
us.
We're
we're
we're.
Looking
at
the
developer
side,
we
are
we're
trying
to
focus
on
I.
Am
a
developer.
I
have
an
idea.
How
do
I
get
it
on
the
US
blockchain
and
it's
starting
very,
very
small.
C
C
So
we
want
to
provide
the
tools
that
make
that
accessible,
digestible
and
and
easy
for
developers,
and
then,
on
top
of
that,
it's
it's
looking
at
these
tools
like
building,
developer
libraries
and
different
languages
and
and
just
making
people
say
I
I
want
to
be
innocent.
Oh
look,
I
can
be
an
EOS
that
the
tools
are
there
for
me.
Another
big
project
that
we
are
very
excited
about,
which
I
can't
talk
too
much
about,
but
it
is
our
our
hardware,
a
wallet
which
is
kind
of
much
more
than
meets
the
eye.
C
There's
going
to
be
some
big
things
behind
this,
this
very
little
piece
of
hardware
that
we
think
will
fundamentally
affect
how
the
ecosystem
functions
with
regard
to
development
cycles,
etc.
So
we're
very
excited
about
that,
but
other
than
that
you
know
it
always
can
be
reached
in
in
telegram
at
us,
New,
York
or
Twitter
us
New
York.
If
there
ever
any
questions
about
any
of
the
smaller
projects
or
anything
else
in
general,
so
happy
to
help
you.
A
Mentioned
the
telegram
groups
I
think
that's
something!
That's
really
cool
with
the
EOS
ecosystem
is
that
every
block
producer
has
their
own
telegram
channels.
So
if
you
think
about
them,
the
main
channel
with
a
OS
there's
a
lot
of
just
garbage
and
there
a
lot
of
trolling
going
on.
But
if
you
go
into
the
actual
block
producer
channels,
every
everyone's
very
reachable,
I
think
Kevin,
you,
you
say
hello
to
everyone
that
ever
joins
your
channel
and
I.
Think
that
open
communication
is
really
awesome.
B
C
A
C
It's
not
it's
not
ledger
specific,
so
we're
building
we're
building
our
own
first
from
scratch.
We
actually
started.
We
started
looking
at
ledger
integration
as
like
this
is
this
is
what
people
need
and
then
in
cypher
glass
came
in
with
the
the
bounty
and
we
saw
the
the
medium
post
for
the
the
guy
who
would
claim
the
he'd
already
done
it.
We're
like
okay?
Well,
let's,
let's
we
took
a
step
back
and
we
said:
let's
look
at
the
bigger
picture
here
and
is
there
something
missing?
Is
it
just
ledger
integration?
Is
there
something
more?
C
So
we
think
we
found
that
and
we
sort
of
pivoted
away
from
from
ledger,
but
you
know
we
had
in
the
beginning.
It
was
like.
Oh,
this
is
gonna
be
great.
If
we
can,
if
we
can
get
that
that
bounty
from
cypher
glass
and
then
we
were
joking-
that
okay,
we
turned
them
that
to
a
bounty
and
then
we
would
give
that
50k
to
some
other
block
producer
and
then
keep
it
going.
You
know,
keep
the
party
going
with
that
it
would
have
been
fun.
That's.
A
Really
cool
yeah,
so
I
said:
I
was
gonna
finish
it
off
at
that
last
question,
but
I'm
actually
gonna
finish
off
with
a
real
speculative
question
and
I
asked
you
guys,
both
in
our
little
telegram
group,
so
Dan,
Larimer
kind
of
teased
that
there's
gonna
be
some
big
announcement
or
a
big
announcement
coming
out
into
London,
hackathon,
September,
22nd
and
23rd.
So
so
far
at
the
us
hackathon
in
South
Korea
and
the
ears
hackathon
at
in
Australia,
they
either
released
a
tool
or
made
some
sort
of
announcement.
Not
nothing
really
earth-shattering
to
this
point.
A
C
A
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
personally
waiting
for
that
first
killer,
DAP
and
I
keep
saying
and
I
think
block
one's
gonna
be
the
ones
to
release
it.
Josh
I'm
gonna.
Let
you
answer
that
same
question
and
if
you
have
the
same
opinion,
maybe
you
could
explain
why
those
things
Kevin
mentioned
are
important
to
you
as
well.
I
think.
B
We're
gonna
see,
hopefully
the
secure
Enclave
being
used,
because
that's
gonna
be
a
great
way
to
increase
adoption
that
someone
who's
already
used
to
putting
their
fingerprint
or
their
face
ID
into
their
their
device,
can
now
use
that
as
their
Hardware
wallet
I
think
that'll
be
great
to
see.
I
think
another
thing
we
might
see
prior
even
to
steam
it
the
steam
in
2.0
I
should
say
is
that
the
new
bitshares,
because
I
think
Dan
was
saying
a
while
back
that
for
steam
to
exist
on
us.
B
He
first
needs
a
stable
coin
to
create
the
stable
coin.
He
wants
to
create
the
decks
like
bitshares
that
runs
on
top
of
Eos,
so
I
think
maybe
a
little
teaser
about.
That
would
be
a
super,
interesting
and,
and
hopefully
even
some
more
info
about
the
wrecks.
That's
been
proposed
just
a
deeper
dive
into
how
he
sees
it
playing
out
and
where
what
will
actually
be
proposed
since
he
went
back
and
he
took
out
the
se
owes
token
from
the
wrecks
that
he
proposed
and
so
how's
it
gonna
look
now
mm-hmm.
A
I
think
that
the
wrecks
might
be
something
that's
more
likely
because
usually
they
try
to
release
some
sort
of
plug
in
a
piece
of
software
that
they
want.
The
hackathon
teams
to
implement
and
I
think
the
wrecks
would
actually
give
them
a
lot
of
flexibility
for
a
like
wide
range
of
different
types
of
projects
that
could
implement
that.
A
Alright,
that
wraps
up
this
week's
show
I
just
want
to
thank
Yost,
Canada
and
es
New
York
again
for
joining
me
this
week.
I
hope
everyone
listening
enjoyed
the
show
as
much
as
I
enjoyed,
recording
it
and
sharing
it
with
you,
guys.
I
hope
you
guys
all
tune
in
next
Friday
for
another
episode,
I'm
once
again,
I'm
Zack
Gaul-
and
this
is
everything
yos.