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From YouTube: Everything EOS #27: Defining Collusion, Monetizing EOS Tokens, Thoughts on Voting, and Dice Stories
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A
Welcome
to
episode
27
of
everything,
yes,
I'm,
Zack
gall,
the
in-house
Yost
ninja
here
at
ICO,
the
trusted
ICO
discovery
platform
visit,
I,
see
alert,
calm,
the
most
complete
calendar
of
all
active
and
upcoming
IC,
OS
and
I'm.
Here
today,
with
the
founder
and
CEO
of
block
producers,
cypher
glass
fresh
in
the
top
21,
oh
yeah
and
Rob
Finch,.
B
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
joining
us
for
yet
another
episode
of
everything.
Yes,
we
love
doing
the
show
it's
a
favorite
part
of
our
week
and
thank
you
for
joining
us.
Yet
again,
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keep
leaving
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and
comments
about
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we
go
in.
We
read
the
YouTube
comments.
We
read
the
replies
on
Twitter.
It
makes
a
smile
all
the
positive
feedback
we
get.
So
please
continue
to
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us
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Listening
as.
A
A
reminder
about
five
weeks
ago
we
started
doing
video,
so
if
you're
or,
if
you're,
still
listening
on
iTunes,
which
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still
the
majority
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and
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we
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of
time
with
the
graphic
overlays
whenever
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about
different
topics,
so
come
out
check
out
the
video
if
you
haven't
yet,
but
we're
happy
if
you're
listening
as
a
second
reminder,
please,
like
subscribe,
subscribe
comment.
Whatever
type
of
engagement
you
can
provide
us,
it
helps
other
people
find
their
content.
A
B
Before
we
get
started,
I
do
need
to
mention
that
this
podcast
is
not
sponsored.
Nobody
is
paying
us
to
do
this
podcast,
including
block
one
or
anybody
else,
we're
just
two
passionate
members
of
the
u.s.
community
who
are
talking
about
this
open
source
software
as
a
matter
of
disclosure
before
we
do
get
started.
There
are
two
tokens
we're
gonna
be
talking
about
on
the
podcast
that
either
of
us
may
own.
The
first
is
yose
and
the
second
is
the
dice
token.
So
we're
gonna
be
talking
a
lot
about
that
today.
A
B
Are
back,
and
so
this
morning
it
looks
like
a
lot
of
the
BitFenix
proxy
votes
got
shuffled
around.
We
got
a
bunch
more
votes
from
them
shout
out
to
the
voters
that
are
voting
through
Biff
and
X
is
voting
portal.
We
really
do
appreciate
it.
We
are
back
in
the
top.
21
went
from
26
to
21
so
where
we're
right
there
at
the
bottom
but
happy
to
be
back
and
I
wanted
to
take
this
time
to
do
a
quick
reminder
other
than
you
know
saying.
Thank
you
to
every
single
person
that
voted
remember.
B
Even
if
you
only
have
say
5-10
euros,
tokens
block
producers
are
paid
based
on
the
amount
of
votes
we
get.
So
even
if
you
only
have
ten
tokens
voting,
those
ten
tokens
towards
the
block
producers
that
you
care
about
directly
impacts
the
amount
of
money
that
they're
making
and
thus
the
amount
of
money
they
can
reinvest
back
into
the
u.s.
network.
B
A
B
B
A
So
I
think
a
lot
of
people.
What
they're
doing
is
it's
really
hard
to
keep
up
with
all
these
block
producers
we're
gonna
get
into
talking
about
proxies
later
I
highly
recommend
using
a
proxy
if
you
can't
keep
up
on
everything,
I
think
that's
a
much
better
solution
than
just
voting
for
five
to
ten
block
producers
that
you
are
familiar
with
or
not.
A
C
A
B
So,
moving
on
to
the
first
announcement,
which
is
cinque
tie,
that
sort
of
you
know
long-awaited
token
leasing
platform,
and
I
think
we
should
take
a
quick
moment
to
talk
about
what
that
actually
is
and
what
it
means.
So,
when
you
own
es
tokens,
if
you
own,
say
one
percent
of
all
the
use
tokens,
you
then
own
one
percent
of
the
computational
power
of
the
network,
one
percent
of
the
bandwidth
and
soon
one
percent
of
the
storage
on
the
network.
B
So
owning
use
tokens
is
kind
of
like
owning
real
estate
in
this
digital
world
and
you
own,
the
the
you
know,
guaranteed
amount
of
transactions
that
you
could
send
with
those
iou's.
But
you
know
in
the
future
when,
let's
say
us,
token,
price
is
much
much
higher
when
there's
more
demand
for
those
resources
that
your
use
tokens
give
you
you're
gonna
need
a
place
for
developers
to
come
in
and
still
be
able
to
use
those
resources
at
a
rate
that
doesn't
break
their
bank.
B
A
B
C
A
So
if
you
guys
haven't
been
keeping
track,
I
haven't
been
fully
invested
in
chin
tie
as
far
as
keeping
up
with
it,
because
I
wasn't
in
any
hurry
to
try
to
rent
out
my
tokens,
because
I
know
there's
not
a
huge
demand
for
the
additional
CPU.
Most
most
people
could
afford
enough
tokens
to
get
the
CPU
CPU
that
they're
going
to
use.
That's
definitely
gonna
change
in
the
future.
There's
definitely
a
lot
of
value
to
the
chin,
time
model
or
the
recs
when
that's
available,
but
the
key
word
that
you
said
was
leased
out
yep.
A
So
from
what
I
understand
when,
when
Schwindt
I
first
launched
there,
there
is
a
major
confusion
with
with
the
two
options.
So
we
know
like
in
a
marketplace:
there's
buyers
and
sellers
yeah
and
then
in
the
chin,
time
marketplace,
there's
leasers
and
thence
takers
and
that
that
was
the
verbage
I
believe
that
they
used
for
the
buttons
where
stake
and
lease
and
most
people
were
clicking
the
button
to
lease
yeah,
which
the
way
you
described
is
lease
out.
Your
token.
C
A
That's
kind
of
like
the
way
you
think
about
is
I
want
to
lease
amount,
make
money
yep,
but
what
happened
was
lease
actually
meant
by
the
toe
or
by
the
by
the
rental
model
tokens.
So
it's
kind
of
like
I'm
going
to
lease
a
car
yeah
so
is
actually
a
buy
order,
not
a
not
a
order,
and
it
seemed
like
there
were
a
lot
of
people
that
made
that
mistake
and
we're
all
over
telegram.
B
C
B
A
A
B
B
D
B
From
someone
else,
and
then
they
have
lend
for
when
you're
lending
it
out
and
then
a
little
warning
pops
up
when
you
go
to
borrow
that
says,
heads-up
lease
order
selected.
Do
you
really
want
to
pay
EOS
for
bandwidth,
so
they're
telling
people
you're
gonna
pay
for
the
bandwidth
with
this
type
of
order,
but
you
know,
even
with
this
being
fixed
a
little
bit
with
borrow
and
lend
I
think,
there's
more
that
they
could
do.
B
The
green
is
the
buys,
the
red
is
the
sells,
so
the
Reds,
obviously
it
pretty
much
every
amount
of
interest,
but
it
looks
like
there's
really
only
one
buy
order
on
the
seven-day
14-day
21
day
and
28-day
leasing
market.
So
that's
the
time
period
for
which
you'd
like
to
lease
the
tokens
and
it's
about
0.01%,
so
very
low.
If
you
leased
out
a
hundred
thousand
EOS,
you
would
get
ten
EOS
for
that
period
again.
C
B
People
to
make
any
substantive
amount
of
money
off
of
leasing
their
tokens.
You
know
a
year
from
now,
two
years
from
now
three
years
from
now,
I
think
that
demand
will
be
very,
very
real,
and
this
will
be
you
know,
another
source
of
passive
income
for
people.
That's
my
speculation,
but
right
now
it's
just
something
that
I
don't
think
many
people
are
gonna
use
the.
D
A
B
A
The
other
thing
is
the
blog:
producers
are
going
to
continuously
be
building
up
their
infrastructure
over
the
next
couple
years,
at
least,
if
not
forever-
definitely
forever,
but
definitely
more
so
in
the
next
couple
years.
So
hopefully
we
won't
be
hitting
CPU
limits
for
a
while
yeah.
So
it's
nice
that
they're
building
this
out
they're
testing
it
that
they've
already
worked
out
some
of
the
kinks
from
from
just
their
launch,
and
then
we
know
block
ones
coming
out
with
the
Rex,
which
is
just
going
to
be
something
very
similar.
A
B
Who
knows
and
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
happens,
but
you
know,
let's
say
you
can
make
five
percent
a
year
off
Elise
in
your
tokens
in
the
future.
That's
a
pretty
good
rate
and
something
you've
talked
about
is
sort
of
this
competing
with
a
savings
account
in
some
way
where
you
have
a
long-term
savings
account.
You
put
some
meet
us
into
it
and
you're
making
5%
extra
a
year.
Plus
you
have
that
upside
and
downside
potential
of
the
actual
underlying
use.
Token.
A
So
I
think,
once
we
get
to
that
point,
that's
when
Yosa
I
don't
think
it
was
intended
to
be
a
store
of
value
right,
but
it
has
it's
set
up
to
be
once
you're
able
to
use
whether
it's
there's
been
talk
about
distributing
the
fees
from
the
recs
and
from
the
name,
auctioning
yeah
and
from
the
RAM
trading.
There's
been
discussions
of.
Why
not
distribute
that
to
everyone
who
has
their
vote
or
their
yaws
tokens
staked
for
voting
yeah.
C
A
100
tokens
would
turn
into
105
tokens
and
if
we're
at
the
point
where
we're
like
creeping
up
on
a
mainstream
adoption,
then
we
could
assume
that
the
token
value
is
also
going
all
right.
So
it's
gonna
be
multiplied
for
the
token
triples
in
price
or
doubles
in
price
and
then
you're
also
getting
five
percent
more
token.
B
And
I
hope
we
see
more
and
more
leasing.
Platforms
like
this
come
out.
I
think
Rex
is
limited
to
something,
at
least
in
the
proposal,
like
only
30-day
time
frames
where
it's
cool
to
see.
Jin-Tae
have
other
different
time
frames
from
seven
days
up
to
28,
but
I
hope
we
see
more
I
hope
we
see
ones
that
allow
you
to
do
for
a
year
or
two
years.
A
A
B
A
A
So
it's
kind
of
like
a
lining
incentives
and
I'm
curious
to
see
how
how
they
become
a
line,
because
if
you
care
about
the
network
as
a
whole
and
the
trading
fees
are
from
the
recs
going
towards
something
that
benefits
the
entire
network,
it's
one
thing,
then
the
other
thing
would
be
on
unguent
I
might
be
better
for
the
consumer.
That's.
C
A
B
Exactly
the
interesting
to
see-
and
you
know,
it'll-
be
cool
to
see
more
sort
of
applications
use
different
things
that
are
already
built
into
u.s.
AIA
code
like
leasing,
you
know
delegating
bandwidth
and
just
having
a
payment
model
around
that
there
gonna
be
other
things
like
this
that
come
up
so
it'd
be
cool
to
kind
of
see
how
that
develops.
I'm.
A
C
A
Talking
about
bitshares,
yes,
yeah
and
that's
a
direct
quote
of
what
he
called
it
yeah
I'm
curious
to
see
if
either
bitshares
is
gonna
port,
something
over
and
just
keep
the
name
bitshares
or,
if
block
ones
working
on
something,
but
if
they
build
a
decks,
their
decks
would
probably
be
just
like.
We've
talked
about
with
the
Rex
and
RAM
trading,
where
there's
a
fee
involved
and
that
fee
goes
goes
towards
the
ecosystem
as
a
whole.
Whether
it's.
B
Could
totally
see
bitshares
actually
making
their
own
side
chain
where
you
know
a
lot
of
these
projects
in
the
future?
The
way
that
they're
gonna
scale
is
by
setting
up
a
side
chain
kind
of
a
kind
of
a
copy
of
the
main
us
blockchain,
but
it
links
in
with
the
main
use
blockchain.
It
doesn't
make
any
more
use
tokens.
It
just
allows
for
more
capacity
more
throughput,
and
then
you
can
very
quickly
sort
of
talk
to
all
the
other
chains
that
are
connected
so
from
the
users
perspective.
B
A
I'm
curious
to
see
if
there's
all
these
different
Dex's
and
they
all
have
different
fee
models.
I
can't
see
the
general
public,
your
normal
layperson,
not
using
the
one
that
has
the
lowest
fees
for
themselves,
which
doesn't
necessarily
align
incentives
with
increasing
the
health
of
the
network.
I
mean.
B
If
you
think
about
it
in
the
future,
let's
say
there
are
a
hundred
a
year
from
another
100
side
chains
that
are
all
connected
to
the
main
chain.
Everybody's
gonna
have
a
main
chain
account
and
all
of
the
the
you
know
the
billion
use
tokens
will
be
accounted
for
on
that
main
chain.
Everything
else
is
kind
of
extra.
You
still
take
that
same
account
with
you
to
a
side
chain.
You
still
take
those
tokens
with
you
to
a
side
chain,
so
none
of
that
changes.
B
A
C
A
B
Think
of
one
of
two
ways:
I
think
the
diffusion
either
be
completely
burned
or
destroyed
cuz
right
now
the
amount
of
inflation
that
the
block
producers
take
is
1%,
but
the
amount
of
fees
that
are
being
taken
on
Ram
trading,
because
there's
so
much
RAM
trading
going
on.
It
was
a
little
more
than
1%.
So
it's
actually
offsetting
that
block
producer
inflation
entirely
and
basically
paying
all
the
bps
for
free,
because
there's
no
new
inflation
generated
for
that.
B
So
I'd
like
to
see
those
extra
tokens
burned
to
destroyed
completely
so
that
it
really
does
offset
that
inflation
or
I'd
like
to
see
it
distributed
evenly
to
all
of
the
use
token
holders
proportionately,
based
on
how
much
es
they
hold
so
not
based
on
unique
accounts
or
based
on
unique
accounts.
I.
Think
if
you
know,
let's
say
that
biometric
wallet
comes
out
from
block
1.
We
see
that
then
distributes
unique
accounts.
I
think
that
would
be
fine
with
me
too,
because
it's
really
pushing
that
that
identity,
layer
forward
pushing
the
innovation
there,
but
so.
C
B
B
Not
that's
true,
or
it
just
made
a
bull
ship.
We
don't
really
know
but
I'm
optimistic
that
it
seems
like
maybe
they
had
to
delay
with
Apple
or
something
the
average
AppStore
approval
time
for
an
app
is
six
days
so
if
they
really
did
submit
it
last
week,
maybe
it'll
come
out
tomorrow,
but
realistically
I
think
for
an
app
like
that.
That
uses
the
secure
Enclave
on
the
device.
It's
gonna
take
Apple
a
lot
longer
to
actually
approve
it
and
test
it
and
go
through
all
those
iterations.
So
we'll
see
what
happens,
what.
B
B
C
A
A
lot
of
insight
into
what's
going
on
with
block
one,
because
for
the
last
it's
a
few
weeks,
definitely
a
few
weeks
for
sure
they've
been
quiet,
we've
been
kind
of
wondering
what
they've
been
up
to,
but
they
dropped.
A
lot
of
they've
dropped,
a
lot
of
nuggets
in
some
of
their
panels
and
speeches
they
gave
and
one
that
sticks
out
in
my
mind,
was
Brendan
bloomer,
the
CEO
of
block
one.
He
specifically
laid
out
a
timeline
of
end
of
2018
or
early
2019
to
like.
C
B
That
one,
that
was
an
interview,
Brendan
bloomer,
did
with
I
think
it
was
Bloomberg
Markets.
If
you
go
to
my
Twitter
at
Finch,
F
I
think
you
might
have
it
as
well
at
blockchain
sack
with
a
K.
You
can
watch
the
video
but
saying
their
first
products
like
their
first
projects,
mostly
DAPs
they're
gonna,
be
built
on
yes
and
of
this
year
early
next
year.
So
that's
super
yes,.
D
We
can't
confirm
that
we
did
a
strategic
round
a
little
bit
a
couple
months
ago,
and
you
know
these.
This
technology
is
really
a
platform
that
allows
us
to
start
to
disrupt
some
of
the
large
centralized
technology
platforms
today,
and
these
are
leaders
in
that
space
and
our
next
plans
will
make
it
in
terms
what
we
build
on
the
application.
Ourself
it'll
become
a
little
more
apparent
why
we
chose
the
investors
that
we
have
okay.
A
B
Another
point
of
something
that
they've
said
when
Brendan
sort
of
squashed
a
lot
of
the
rumors
before
the
London
event.
He
also
said
hey
when
we
release
our
first
product,
whether
he
was
referring
to
the
wallet
or
whether
he's
referring
to
adapt
it's
unclear,
but
he
did
say
that
they
would
schedule
their
own
product
launch
event
for
it.
So
maybe
you
know
when
you
publish
an
app
on
the
App
Store,
you
have
the
ability
to
not
let
it
go
live
as
soon
as
it's
approved.
You
can.
B
Yourself
and
then
click
a
button
whenever
you
want
and
boom
it's
out
there,
so
they
may
be
planning
an
event
where
maybe
it's
at
the
hackathon.
Maybe
it's
still
a
separate
event
where
they
unveil
this
wallet
and
some
other
things
like
the
identity
system
that
go
along
with
it
and
then
they'll
push
it
out.
So
maybe.
C
A
B
A
They
want
to
roll
this
out.
They
want
to
take
advantage
of
all
of
the
hype,
I
guess
behind
it,
also
to
make
a
big
announcement,
because
this
is
a
big
deal.
It
seems
like
the
products
that
they're
building
on
top
of
us
are
either
products
that
weren't
possible
before
without
a
scalable
blockchain
or
it's
just
stuff.
We've
been
anticipating
for
really
long
time
that
it
just
makes
more
sense
for
them
to
tie
it
in
with
an
event
whether
it's
the
grand
finale
of
the
hackathon,
which
was
recently
announced
to
be
in
Cape
Cod,.
A
B
A
We
talked
about
the
disruption
that
that
blockchain
based
products
can
can
create
in
the
whole
global
economy
and
whenever
you're,
trying
to
explain
to
someone
the
benefits
of
blockchain
or
crypto
currencies,
it's
very
difficult
to
get
the
point
across
talking
to
another
American
and
the
biggest
reason
behind.
That
is
because
we
are
probably
the
people
in
the
world
least
likely
to
care
about
this,
because
I
can
send
you
money
felis
through
a
venmo
or
PayPal
friends
and
family
there's.
No
reason:
I
can't
already
do
the
the
felis
transactions
and
they
seem
instantaneous
to
us.
A
Where
the
wealth
being
transferred,
so
there's
still
value
in
the
architecture
of
how
that
value
is
transferred.
But
everyone
accepts
our
money.
You
I
was
just
in
Europe
last
week
and
I
went
with
Dimitri
chesnic
off.
He
also
works
here
at
ICO
alert
and
he
had
US
dollars
on
him.
He
didn't
convert
to
euros
and
he
need
a
bottle
of
water
somewhere
and
he
didn't
have
euros
and
he
basically
paid
double
for
the
water
by
getting
them
to
accept
dollars.
B
Well
into
your
point,
I
mean
people
who
are
experiencing
hyperinflation,
like
at
Venezuela,
where
their
hyperinflation
is
expected,
hit
a
million
percent.
If
you
had
a
million
dollars
in
Venezuelan
currency
like
earlier
this
year
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
that's
not
worth
about
$30.
So
to
imagine
your
value
just
going
away
is
something
I,
don't
think
Americans
can
comprehend,
because
we
haven't
really
lived
through
it.
No.
A
Explain
the
reason
crypto
is
revolutionary
is
that's
an
easy
use
cases?
Okay!
Well,
imagine
if
you
had
a
hundred
dollars
in
your
bank
account
and
next
week
it's
still
a
hundred
dollars,
but
it
can
only
buy
half
of
what
it
could
buy
before
yeah.
Basically,
the
price
of
the
consumer
goods
you're
buying
doubled,
but
the
money
you
have
stayed
the
same
that
that's
what
happens
with
hyperinflation
there.
C
A
Seen
that
in
Venezuela,
we've
seen
that
in
Turkey
and
I
couldn't
imagine
living
in
there
Oh
God,
but
what
I
was
getting
to
is
Africa
is
the
continent
with
the
biggest
chance
to
be
disrupted
through
a
digital
currency
market,
because
that
is
the
country
or
not
the
country,
the
continent
with
the
highest
percentage
of
unbanked
people
mm-hmm.
So
if
you
weave
baskets
fair
living,
that's
all
you
do
is
use
weave
baskets
all
day
and
you're
trading,
these
baskets
probably
for
other
goods
or,
if
or
if,
there's
a
money
transfer
involved.
A
You
can't
really
trust
the
money
and
if
you
do
trust
the
money,
it's
cash,
you
probably
don't
have
access
to
a
bank.
They
have
deposit
that
cash
in.
So,
if
you've
been
following
us
for
a
long
enough
time,
you
probably
know
this
story
already,
but
the
story
of
the
m-pesa
yeah,
so
the
EM
pay
say
that
I
forget.
Is
it
in
the
Robie
Africa
I?
Do
you
remember
the
country?
It's.
A
So
basically,
whatever
country
this
is
in
I,
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me.
It
is
the
hi
it's
the
most
advanced
digital
currency
market
in
the
whole
world,
the
it's
not
a
cryptocurrency,
it's
actually
sulfa
in
minutes
in
there
called
m-pesa.
So
every
citizen
in
this
country
gets
a
monthly
stipend
of
M
pace
of
minutes.
But
not
everyone
needs
all
their
minutes,
so
there's
an
excess
of
them
yeah
but
other,
but
because
everyone
gets
the
same
amount
every
month.
A
C
A
A
B
B
If
you
look
at
statistics
for
what
happens
when
people
in
poverty
are
given
access
to
the
Internet
one
in
ten
of
those
people
that
were
in
poverty
before
will
bring
themselves
out
of
without
any
other
help,
just
because
now
they
have
access
to
the
the
world
of
information
on
the
internet,
whether
they're
learning
new
skills
online
or
they
can
find
a
job
online.
They
could
do
all
kinds
of
stuff.
10%
of
those
people
are
now
no
longer
in
poverty
just
because
they
got
connected.
B
Imagine
what's
gonna
happen
when
you
connect
ten
people
to
not
only
the
Internet,
but
now,
if
the
blockchain
they
have
their
own
bank
in
their
pocket,
they
have
access
to
financial
resources
and
investments
in
their
pocket.
Imagine
how
many
of
those
ten
people
are.
They
gonna
be
brought
out
of
poverty
on
their
own
just
being
connected
to
this
new
technology.
C
A
B
Interesting
tidbits
there
Dan
mentions
like
they
want
to.
He
didn't
say
they
wanted
to
build
a
browser
block
one
but
mentions
that
the
browser
is
a
crucial
part
of
the
ecosystem,
so
whether
they
go
out
and
buy
a
smaller
browser
like
opera,
that
has
millions
of
users
and
integrate
us
in
some
way
or
they
build
their
own.
Or
maybe
that
comment
was
misunderstood,
I
don't
know,
but
a
lot
of
interesting
tidbits
happening
in.
C
B
D
C
C
A
B
The
speaking
of
scatter
and
integrating
with
the
apps
there's
some
interesting
tab
news
coming
up
recently,
so
as
an
update
that
the
patriotic
centralized
patreon
that
allows
people
to
you
know,
pay
you
tubers
and
reward
kinda
creators
for
the
content.
They
give
them
finish.
Their
snapshot
on
October,
1st
and
the
actual
airdrop
is
coming
on
October
8th
so
next
week.
Finally,
another
airdrop
one
that
I'm
very,
very
excited
about
at
patreon
I,
think
I'll
be
holding
this
tokens
for
a
little
while
excited
to
see
that
happening.
B
But
then
also
we
have
a
new
number
one
dap
in
the
world
in
terms
of
daily
active
users,
which
is
bet
dices.
So
if
you
go
to
dap
radar
and
you
click
on
the
eos
DAPs
tab,
you
can
see
crazy
statistics
about
the
number
of
users
in
24
hours.
The
volume,
the
transaction
volume,
all
kinds
of
stuff
and
Beth
dice.
Now
is
the
number
one
with
almost
5500
unique
users
in
the
last
24
hours,
which
is
the
top
of
all
the
DAPs
off
of
you
know
across
every
single
platform.
So
turning.
B
It
might
be
I
mean
it's
interesting,
so
yo
spec
came
out
took
the
world
by
storm,
has
done
almost
a
quarter
billion
dollars
in
bet
volume
on
their
platform
in,
like
a
month,
an
insane
amount
of
money
and
they're
taking
one
and
a
half
percent
fee
off
of
that,
so
bet
dice
came
out,
they
said
hey.
We
think
we
can
do
this
little
faster.
We
can
do
a
little
better,
then
a
small
token
sale.
All
over
the
last
couple
days
where
they're
selling
out
these
dividend,
tokens
I
did
participate
as
a
matter
of
disclosure.
B
I
was
I,
saw
Maple,
Leaf,
Capps
tweet
about
it,
read
their
white
paper
and
thought.
Oh
I'll
spend
like
a
small
percentage
of
my
portfolio
on
this
and
just
see
what
happens
with
it.
I
think
if
they
can
continue
to
come
out
with
more
games
like
they
say
they're
going
to
so
they
have
a
token
called
dice.
B
A
We
were
talking
about
this
before
we
started
recording
because
you
pull
it
up,
bet
dice
and
I.
Looked
at
the
UI
and
I
recognized
it.
Lady
is
thanks
before
yeah.
It
looks
like
a
complete
ripoff
of
it,
which
is
fine
because
it
has
same
functionality,
but
that
brings
up
a
big
limitation
of
open
source
software's.
There's
always
that
fear
of
someone
else
take
taking
your
ko.
A
And
that
that's
why
a
lot
of
these
projects
have
a
native
token
to
it,
because
then,
if
they
could
add
value
to
that
token,
then
yeah.
You
can't
transfer
that
out.
If
you,
if
you
copy
the
code,
but
what
we're
seeing
and
yo
as
dice
I
think
proved
the
model
of
a
fee-based
model
for
building
a
business
on
top
of
a
OS
where,
as
far
as
I
know,
dice
didn't
raise
any
money
before
they
launched
right
right.
B
They
came
out
of
a
native
token.
They
do
have
a
native
token,
the
dice
token,
which
you
can
use
to
gamble
on
the
platform,
but
also
is
used
as
a
method
of
dividend
distribution.
So
half
of
the
profit
that
they
make
you
know
part
of
it
goes
into
the
bankroll
I
think
40
percent
of
it
10%
goes
to
the
team
and
the
other
half
gets
distributed
out
to
the
token
holders
so
very
similar
to
the
ES
bet
bet
token
model.
A
C
B
A
D
B
B
Users,
and
also
things
like
bankroll,
where
you
know
from
a
gambling
or
casino
perspective,
you
never
want
to
have
more
than
10%
of
your
total
bankroll
at
risk
across
all
of
your
games
at
any
one
time.
So
you
need,
if
you
want,
for
example,
the
max
bet
for
somebody
to
place
to
be
50,000
US
you
need
to
have.
If
you
only
have
that
one
game,
you
need
to
have
500,000
u.s.
in
your
bankroll
at
any
one
time.
B
So
there
were,
there
will
be
more
use
cases
more
games
can
be
supported
as
one
platform
gets
more
and
more
support
and
then
bigger
bets
can
be
had.
So
you
see
crazy
headlines,
like
person
wins
half
a
million
Eos
on
this
platform,
and
you
know
you'll
see
cool
stuff
like
that.
But
your
point
I
mean
there
will
be,
and
maybe
bet
dice
will
get
forked
in
the
future,
and
somebody
else
will
make
a
new
token
and
do
it
a
little
better,
which
I
think
is
a
as.
A
Long
as
it
continuously
improves,
it
creates
very
stiff
competition,
but
it
just
to
me
looking
at
it
from
the
outside.
It
looks
like
whoever
is
a
first
mover
is
sometimes
taking
a
large
red
because
they're
the
ones
developing
the
initial
code
they're,
not
building
necessarily
on
top
of
someone
else's
code.
Definitely
so
there's
always
that
risk,
but
I
guess
if
you're
a
first
mover
and
you
get
the
users
it
something
has
to
come
out,
that's
above
and
beyond
them
better
to
force
those
users
to
leave.
B
Absolutely
well,
if
you
look
at
es
bet,
es
bet
still
has
about
four
times
the
actual
transactional
volume
of
bet
dice
just
less
users.
So
what
that
tells
me
is
they're
the
people
who
can
make
a
bigger
bet
there
because
of
the
bankroll
are
sticking
with
the
US
bed
and
other
people,
maybe
you're
making
smaller
bets
are
going.
A
C
B
I
think
a
lot
of
these
things.
If
you
don't
have
the
self-control,
you
should
never
touch
these.
That's
why
I
don't
don't
touch
the
the
gambling
portion
of
these
the
I
mean
you
can
see
right
now.
We
have
it
up
on
the
screen,
mostly
people,
betting
dice,
but
there's
like
a
10
years.
100
eos,
20
iou's,
but
I
mean
if
you
look
on
yes,
but
especially
there
are
tons
of
just
huge
bets.
One.
A
A
Went
out
when
I
was
at
block
Tober
fest,
the
conference
I
was
at
last
week
in
Germany.
I
was
basically
telling
a
lot
of
the
people
that
were
there
about.
Yes
for
the
first
time,
even
though
they
on
the
project
building
there,
their
protocol
on
top
of
Eos
they're
familiar
with
us,
but
a
lot
of
the
people
at
the
conference
weren't
nearly
as
familiar
yeah.
C
A
B
A
C
A
C
A
A
I
had
this
wallet
all
the
sudden
and
everyone
trying
to
bash
iya
says
it's:
you
have
to
pay
for
a
wallet,
it's
so
difficult,
but
this
wasn't
difficult
at
all
and
then
I
transferred
myself
five
years,
tokens
from
another
account,
I
had
instantaneous,
transfer,
Wow
and
then
so
now,
I
had
an
account
with
funds
in
it.
Yeah.
C
A
Nothing
I
had
nothing
before
tonight.
This
brand
new
account
five
years
tokens
in
it
and
then
I
said
all
right.
Let
me
go
to
yes.
Dice
do
or
whatever
the
address
is
I
connected
it
directly
to
the
yes
links,
wallet,
yeah
and
I
was
able
to
start
rolling
that
dice
and
I
said
every
time
I
hit
this
button.
Do
you
see
any
lag?
It's
a
half
second
latency.
As
soon
as
I
roll
the
dice.
It
gives
me
the
results.
Yep.
C
C
C
C
C
A
Blockchain
and
crypto
currencies:
it's
like
a
religion,
everyone
has
their
religion,
they
belong
to.
We
are
in
the
ESI
yo
religion,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
people
in
the
etherium
religion.
I'd
say
that's
the
the
biggest
one
of
them
all
and
a
lot
of
these
people.
With
these
other
investors
or
business
people,
entrepreneurs
there
they
were
all
mostly
familiar
with
aetherium.
C
A
C
A
And
this
it
was
great
too,
because
the
panel
was
on
was
basically
about
the
future,
use
cases
and
applications
and
what
it
comes
down
to
is.
You
need
to
be
using
these
applications
that
you
don't
really
know
or
care
your
on
a
blockchain,
yeah
I.
The
only
interaction
with
the
blockchain
that
I
had
was
I
still
had
to
copy
my
private
key
and
store
it
somewhere
when
I
created
this
wallet.
A
B
Whatever
you've
used
before,
if
you
haven't
used,
Dios
go,
try
it
download
the
EOS
links
app
ly
+
X
and
set
up
an
account
like
that,
but
a
tweet
from
at
sea
for
the
number
for
Kaos
tweeted
out
something
very
similar
to
that
I'm
still
bullish
on
aetherium,
but
once
I
started
using
the
US
wallet
daps
and
experience
the
blazingly
fast
Fela
Street
transactions
and
the
user
friendly
ecosystem
tools,
it's
really
a
no-brainer
why
it
will
surpass
aetherium
a
few
months
from
now.
Don't
take
my
word
for
it.
B
A
C
C
A
D
A
C
B
B
The
the
bet
dice
has
a
really
interesting
sort
of
mining
model
like
that,
where
I
think
there's
2
billion
in
the
supply
right
now
with
a
total
fixed
supply
of
8.8,
but
the
way
they
do
it
is
that
right
now,
I
think
for
every
one
es.
You
bet
I,
think
you
get
10
dice
tokens,
but
once
5%
of
that
total
supply
has
been
mine
that
way
it
gets
cut
in
half
and
then
it'll
be.
Oh,
you
get
for
every.
B
What
was
it
for
every
2
es
you
put
up
then
you'll
get
ten
by
ten
bet
dies,
then
we'll
get
halved
again.
It'll
be
four
es.
You'll
get
ten!
So
over
time
it's
gonna
take
years
and
years
and
years
and
years
for
that
total
supply
to
eventually
be
mined
similar
to
how
it
works
on
Bitcoin,
work
gets
halved
every
four
years
or
so
so
to.
C
A
And
helping
spread
the
good
word
of
the
earth
yeah
and
it
was
really
cool.
Everyone
was
like
huddled
around
that's
so
cool
I
wanted
to
send
I
still
with
his
dice
tokens
in
a
different
wallet,
so
I
needed
to
transfer
them
out
of
the
throwaway
wallet.
I
just
created
it
for
this
demo,
yeah
I
couldn't
do
it
because
I
didn't
have
any
CPU,
because
I
didn't
have
any
yes,
so
they're
like
what
are
you
gonna
do.
I
was
like
watch
this
CPU
emergency.
A
They
already
built
into
the
the
little
DAP
store
on
es
links,
went
to
CPU
emergency
got
lended,
some
bandwidth
transferred
out
my
ears
diced.
Oh
nice,
no
problem,
that's
amazing!
Yeah!
It
is
awesome.
So
that's
such
a
good
story.
Anyone
going
to
a
conference
I'm
sure
you
have
these
religion,
debates
of
who
has
the
best
blockchain
just
pull
out
your
yes
dice
they're.
Not
any
yes
bet,
yes,
dice
any
dice
game,
pull
out
your
favorite
wallet,
whether
it's
links
meet
one
whatever
one.
A
You
know
has
very
little
friction
and
didn't
just
pretend
that
you
never
heard
a
blockchain
before
and
you
got
to
create
a
wallet
and
start
doing
transactions
from
scratch,
and
you
could
skip
the
part
about
acquiring
the
crypt.
You
could
send
it
to
yourself,
because
you
could
just
pretend
a
friend
sends
it
to
you.
Yeah.
C
B
B
A
Damage-
and
it
was
just
really
cool-
to
bring
up
those
talking
points
in
front
of
a
group
of
other
like-minded
people
who
were
very
knowledgeable
in
the
space
and
they
they've
heard
of
us,
and
they
know
that
the
community's
been
growing.
But
they
don't
dig
in
enough
to
really
understand
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
it.
B
One,
if
you
think
about
products
in
general,
you
know
people
say
like.
Oh,
if
you
have
a
software
product
when
people
use
it,
they
should
like
it
and
I
feel
like
EOS
is
the
first
blockchain
to
actually
achieve
that.
Where
to
your
point,
you
set
up
an
account
in
two
seconds
on
us
links
for
99
cents
right
using
your
face
and
in-app
purchase
or
using
your
your
touch,
ID
and
you're
in,
and
that
experience
for
people
is
what's
going
to
get
them
to
tell
more
people
about
it.
C
A
Talk
about
steam
to
put
on
face
point
to
Facebook
2.0,
whatever
2.0
you
want
to
come
up
with.
It's
not
gonna
work.
It's
not
gonna
get
users
unless
it's
better
than
the
centralized
version.
We
have.
Oh
absolutely
because
the
reason
people
use
Facebook
is
because
everyone
else
is
on
Facebook
yeah.
If
they're,
if,
like
I,
think
myspace
is
still
around,
but
there's
no
one.
A
B
C
A
A
B
Recently,
there's
been
the
Hobie,
which
is
a
huge
exchange
in
the
world,
but
mostly
popular
in
Asia
came
out
and
has
began
a
lot
of
flack
recently
for
an
alleged
document
that
came
out
they've
sort
of
tried
to
deny
it,
but
haven't
really
given
proof
that
it's
it's
fake
and
but
anyway,
the
document
showed
that
they
were
basically
colluding
with
other
block
producers
and
paying
those
Bart
producers
were
getting
paid
by
those
block
producers
in
exchange
for
voting
for
those
black
producers
with
their
customers.
Token.
B
So,
who
o
be
if
they
have
40
million
tokens
that
their
customers
are
trusting
them
with,
rather
than
letting
their?
You
know
the
the
users
that
are
storing
their
tokens
with
them,
rather
than
letting
those
users
vote
like
bid
Phoenix
does
who
OB
was
like?
No?
No,
no
screw.
You
guys
we're
gonna
vote
on
our
behalf
and
make
money
off
of
your
tokens
without
your
input
at
all.
So
this
came
out.
It
was
a
big
controversy
and
then,
of
course,
metallic
from
aetherium
picked
it
up
and
said.
B
All
us
is
a
failure,
because
you
know
this
is
happening.
Coin
desk
picked
it
up
and
ran
with
that
story,
but
what's
interesting
about
this
is
that
you
know
you
can't
stop
vote
by,
even
if
this
is
something
in
the
Constitution
where
it's
it's
a
you
know
it's
an
amendment
of
the
Constitution,
hey,
no
BP
is
allowed
to
buy.
You
know,
votes
from
another
BP
or
have
these
backroom
deals
there's
no
way
to
prove
it
really
and
there's
really
no
way
to
stop
it.
B
So
what
we
need
to
focus
on
instead
of
trying
to
make
rules
to
stop
this
from
happening,
is
focus
on
what
the
problem
is
and
us
Aurora
who's.
A
great
new
blog
producer
that
I
highly
recommend
you
vote
for,
came
out
with
this
awesome
article,
basically
outlining
some
steps
that
they
thought
should
be
taking
across
the
ecosystem.
To
fix
this
one
was,
of
course,
increasing
voter
participation.
A
B
Know
if
he
had
an
initial
goal,
but
I
know
the
voter
participation
now
is
pretty
low.
I.
Think
it's
even
though
55%
of
all
tokens
are
actually
staked.
So
more
than
half
of
the
supply
is
locked
up
right
now,
which
is
pretty
crazy,
and
that
happened
faster
than
I
thought.
It
would
only
I
think
about
15
to
20
percent
of
those
people
are
voting.
So
if
who
ob
owns
5%
of
the
total
tokens-
and
they
can
go
in
when
only
15%
of
people
are
voting,
they
can
make
big
changes
and
control
it.
B
B
C
A
C
A
Like
to
hear
your
thoughts,
we
we
see
this
as
obvious
conclusion
and
vote-buying
I
scratch
your
back.
You
scratch
mine,
but
how
is
that
any
different
than
block
producers
having
good
relationships
with
each
other,
so
I
don't
see
it
as
a
negative
thing.
If
I
don't
know
who
do
you,
collaborate
with
anyone
on
any
projects
or
meetup
you're
doing
the
meet
up
with
Dublin.
A
C
A
A
You
have
personal
tokens,
you
have
your
BP
reward
tokens
which
I'm
not
sure
how
everyone
votes
with
those,
but
is
that
collusion
if
you're
supporting
the
people
you
know
because
in
in
any
business
transaction
you
trust
the
people
who
you
know
personally,
yeah
I,
like
I,
could
vote
for
safer
glass
all
day
every
day,
because
I
see
you
around
I
know
you
very
well
I
know
you're
not
doing
anything.
Shady
so
I
have
no
problem
voting
for
you,
but
I'm
doing
it
because
I
know
you
I
think.
C
B
Know
and
I
think
too
many
and
I
was
not
of
this
opinion.
First,
my
opinion
was:
oh,
we
have
to
come
out.
We
have
to
you,
know,
put
all
these
rules
in
place
and
prevent
this
from
happening,
but
when
I
started
hearing
what
other
people
were
saying
what
the
community
was
saying
about,
you
know:
hey
guys,
there's
really
no
way
to
enforce
this.
A
light
bulb
kind
of
went
off
and
I
went
oh
wow.
The
solution
for
this
is
not
to
make
more
rules
that
people
are
just
gonna
break
anyway.
B
The
solution
is
to
try
to
change
voter
behavior
or
one
of
the
points.
In
a
word.
Yes,
his
article
was
to
drive
usage
over
speculation.
Where
you
know,
if
you
want
to
use
a
DAP
like
you
know,
bet
dice
and
you
want
to
send
people
there.
You
can't
keep
your
tokens
on
an
exchange
and
do
that.
You
have
to
withdraw
them
so
over
time,
then
people
like
Kobe
have
less
power,
less
tokens
are
stored
on
their
exchange
and
that
kind
of
goes
away,
but
I
think.
C
A
Then
Dan's
mentioned
I,
don't
I'm
not
sure
if
he
was
talking
block
one
specifically,
but
someone
asked
why
would
someone
want
to
use
this
decks
whatever
when
they're
talking
about
over
a
regular
exchange
and
he
said
margin
trading
yeah?
So
if
you
could
have
a
decentralized
peer-to-peer
lending
system
where
you
could,
we've
talked
about
lending
out
computation.
C
D
A
I,
don't
know,
maybe
Dan
was
talking
about
us
finicky,
maybe
but
I
I
kind
of
doubt
that,
just
because
at
least
publicly
what
I
saw
was
it
almost
seemed
like
at
the
blockchain
live?
That
I
saw
some
tweets
where
it
looked
like
some
of
the
block.
One
team
we're
seeing
the
u.s.
Phenix
demo
for
almost
the
first
time,
yeah.
C
A
At
the
same
time,
we
know
some
of
the
owners
of
BitFenix
were
early
investors
in
block
one
yeah,
so
there's
definitely
some
common
ground
there
that
it's
possible
that
they
could
have
been
kind
of
advising
each
other
and
what
they're
working
on
that
way.
They're,
not
overlapping
on
the
same
stuff,
I'm,
sure,
yeah,
but
margin
trading
is
gonna,
be
a
huge
opportunity
to
earn
money
with
your
tokens
with.
B
D
A
C
A
C
A
Take
out
a
loan
against
my
house
as
collateral
mm-hmm,
so
it's
very
similar
using
collateralized
loans
or
I
can
get
a
personal
loan
and
a
typical
percentage,
at
least
in
the
United
States,
for
a
personal
loan
without
collateral
is
9
to
12
percent.
If
you
have
decent
credit
cool.
So
if
I
want
to
borrow
money
using
a
banking,
I'm.
A
To
twelve
percent
interest,
that's
going
to
the
bank
and
it's
it's
it's
paying
a
lot
of
people
who
are
involved
in
that
process
and
a
lot
of
profit
going
to
the
bank.
Oh
yeah,
but
with
a
peer-to-peer
lending
system,
I,
don't
know
what
the
exact
percentage
is
on
margin,
but
you're,
paying
singly
to
three
I'd
say
three
is
like
the
top
percentage
that
you'd
be
paying
an
interest
on
a
yearly
basis.
Wow
if
I
was
borrowing
oh
yeah,.
B
B
A
A
A
B
It's
so
exciting,
I
mean
all
the
things
that
will
happen
and
all
the
value
that
can
then
finally
be
realized
and
capitalized
on
in
the
tokenized
future
is
super
exciting,
and
this
might
be
like
a
little
too
much
of
a
tangent
but
I
think
of
real
estate.
Right
now,
it's
very
hard
to
move,
but
if
all
real
estate
was
tokenized
suddenly
you
can
have
different
baskets
of
real
estate.
B
So,
if
you're
looking
to
get
exposure
to
the
New
York
real
estate
market,
you
could
have
a
basket
for
Brooklyn
and
a
basket
for
the
Upper,
West
Side
and
a
basket
for
the
Upper
East
Side,
and
you
could
long
the
Upper,
West,
Side
and
short
the
Upper
East
Side.
If
you
really
wanted
to
so
the
things
that
are
gonna
be
possible
in
the
future,
beyond
just
lending
out
arias
and
making
money
in
all
these
different
ways
and
realizing
that
value
in
all
these
different
ways.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
crazy.
Like
you.
B
To
move
to
build
a
decentralized
Bank
along
with
finance
and
do
all
these
things,
but
when
it
comes
to
real
estate,
that's
so
heavily
regulated,
specifically
like
the
title
registration
portion
of
the
real
estate
process.
It's
going
to
take
a
government
to
come
in
and
say
hey.
We
now
recognize
this.
This
blockchain
in
this
application
as
a
valid
way
to
transfer
a
title,
then
we'll
start
to
see
that
we're
new
that
could
happen.
C
C
C
B
Put
us
on
a
decade
timeline
for
seeing
the
real
effects
of
global
tokenization
we're
a
decade
from
now
the
majority
of
things
that
we
own
will
be
tokenized
in
some
way,
and
there
will
be
ways
for
me
to
transmit
that
value.
But
it's
gonna
take
a
while
for
people
for
people
and
businesses
and
corporations
to
get
on
board
and
have
their
own
block
chains.
That
interface
with
the
US
main
chain
and
do
all
these
different
things.
So
in
the
next
decade,
I
think
we'll
see
radical
societal
transformation
because
of
block
chains.
B
Member
yeah,
so
miryo
rmer
yo-yo,
is
run
by
somebody
named
blockchain
kid
on
twitter,
but
basically
they
have
a
really
interesting
scoring
methodology
for
which
block
producers
their
proxy
votes
for
so
they
do
it.
Based
on
voter
diversity,
which
is
the
amount
of
individual
voters,
you
have
voting
for
you,
disclosure
and
accessibility.
You
know
how
transparent
are
you
structure
and
leadership?
So
you
know
how's
your
organization
structured.
How
are
your
team
members
interacting
with
the
community
and
then
value-add
tools?
B
So
you
know
gray
mass
coming
out
with
a
wallet
use
candidate,
coming
out
with
different
tools
and
helping
blog
producers,
cipher
glass,
coming
out
with
a
glass
tool
and
the
ledger
bounty
and
all
these
things,
and
then
they
get
ranked.
So
it's
a
very
different
top
21
we
see
here.
Then
we
see
in
the
current
main
net
structure,
which
is
pretty
interesting
but
I
like
the
methodology
they're
using
because
I
think
it
covers
a
lot
of
core
aspects
of
what
being.
A
C
A
Then,
when
the
who
OB
stuff
came
out,
it's
like-
oh,
let's,
let's
complain
about
this,
because
this
is
why
the
top
block
producers
are
being
dominated
by
Asian
block
producers.
But
you
look
at
this
proxy
I
CEOs
Asia
at
number.
Four
yeah.
Where
is
where
is
the
next
Asian
block
producer?
I?
Don't
think
it
exists
on
there
exactly.
A
Know
and
if
you
live
in
the
westerns,
the
world
you're
gonna
support
the
Western
bloc
producers
right
and
then
in
Asia.
I
bet,
if
there's
a
prominent
proxy,
which
there
may
be
I'm,
not
sure
I,
don't
it
but
I'm
sure
it
would
be
heavily
Asian
exchanges,
yeah
and
when
I
think
the
guy
from
who
will
be
his
name's
Danny.
He
was
in
one
of
the
Yeo's
channels
kind
of
defending,
oh,
the
the
ongoing
scandal.
He
said
that
the
reason
they
vote
for
the
block
producers
they
do
are
because
those
are
the
ones
that
they
know.
A
C
B
A
Yeah
I
mean
there.
There
were
definitely
other
aspects
that
I
absolutely
hated
if
it's
true,
like
the
part
where
they
were
set.
So
at
the
beginning
of
the
show,
we
talked
about
how
block
producers
outside
of
the
top
21
are
paid
based
on
the
amount
of
votes
they
got
yeah.
So
the
part
that
really
pissed
me
off
was
that
they
were
using
very,
very
heavily
weighted
tokens,
staked
votes
to
vote
for
block
standby
block
producers
who
have
had
no
value
to
the
community.
We.
D
C
A
Because
one
single
whale
entity,
whether
it
was
a
group
of
whale
wallets
or
just
one,
they
had
enough
votes
to
contribute
to
a
stand
by
block
producer.
Who
may
have
ranked
and
I
don't
know,
let's
say
60.
They
were
able
to
earn,
let's
say
a
hundred
tokens
a
day,
yeah
and
then,
in
exchange
from
what
I
understand
the
agreement
was,
if
they
earned
a
hundred
euros
tokens
that
day
because
of
being
a
standby
block
producer.
Just
because
of
these
votes
they
would
split
those
ears
and
give
half
of
the
block
reward.
C
A
Value
well,
they're
just
draining
value
from
the
because
this
taught
if
they
were
just
voting
for
six
block
producers
that
they're
really
close
with.
Maybe
they
have
business
ties
to
and
they
trust
them.
They
know
that
they're
doing
good
I
think
it's
their
job
to
expand
their
horizons
and
maybe
research
more
block
producers,
but
if
they
only
wanted
to
vote
for
the
ones
that
they
knew
with
a
hundred
percent
certainty
that
they
trusted,
then
they
voted
for
the
six
that
they
knew
right.
Make.
D
B
Be
interesting
to
see
kind
of
how
this
unfolds
and
see
what
who
OB
does
they've
said
publicly
they're
doing
an
internal
quote
internal
investigation
on
this,
so
maybe
they'll
come
out
and
we'll
realize
it
was
two
employees
they're
doing
this
under
the
behind
the
scenes
under
the
table
or
maybe
they'll
find
a
solution
for
it.
But
whatever
happens,
it'll
be
really
interesting.
A
To
see
this
is
where
I
see
the
value
in
the
proxies,
though
so
we
talked
about,
we,
we
have
to
improve
voter
turnout
and
participation.
One
of
the
biggest
issues
is
we
do
the
show.
Every
week
I
mean
I,
don't
do
a
OS
all
day
every
day
like
you
do,
but
but
I
keep
up
on
things
and
I
have
a
really
hard
time.
Knowing
a
lot
about
the
30
block
producers
out.
A
Know
enough
about
maybe
half
of
them
to
say:
I
really
really
trust
these
guys.
I
can
name
at
least
one
thing,
they've
done,
and
one
person
in
the
community
who
I've
seen
them
around
the
telegram,
but
the
other
15
I'm,
mostly
just
going
on
these
rating
sites
going
to
their
website.
Saying:
okay,
they
look
like
they're
doing
a
decent
job,
but
I
don't
have
the
time
to
do
the
due
diligence
to
really
really
deep
dive
and
yeah.
A
A
Where
I
see
the
value
of
these
proxies,
are
these
the
biggest
issue
I
see
them?
Having
is
the
ability
to
monetize
they're
staking
votes
through
a
proxy
is
not
paying
that
proxy
in
any
way,
but
I
saw
one
of
the
use.
Cases
for
Patriots
was
one
of
the
use
cases
they
mentioned
with
proxies.
That
could
be
one
possible
way
that
you
could
support.
The
proxies
financially
is
through
a
system
like
patriots
or
just
donations
in.
B
A
Because
I
see
proxies
being
one
of
the
most
important
pieces
to
this
ecosystem,
because
if
they
had
funding
which
they
don't
currently,
they
could
employ
full-time
people
who
their
only
job
is
to
interact
with
these
block
freezers
on
a
personal
basis.
Let's
take
a
call
I
want
to
know
what
you're
doing
I.
A
Maybe
I'll
fly
out
the
Asian
come
see
your
infrastructure
and
meet
you
guys.
That's
where
I
see
the
value
of
these
proxies,
because
after
spending
last
week
with
the
guys
at
Bayon-
and
we
asked
them
what
they
were
gonna
do
with
their
tokens
and
I
gave
them
a
lot
of
advice
on
it,
because
any
business,
whether
you're
doing
an
IC,
o----
and
airdrop
or
you're
running
AOS
dice
any
business
model
that
is
new,
that's
built
on
top
of
vos,
where
your
revenue
model
is
generating
revenue
and
es
and
you're
just
building
up
iou's
building
up.
A
Yes,
you
have
a
lot
of
tokens.
What
is
your
responsibility?
Yeah
on
governance
issues,
so
the
way
I
see
it
is
in
the
future
and
the
future
starts
today.
Any
business
building
on
EOS
has
a
responsibility
to
pay
attention
to
what's
going
on
in
on
chain
governance,
because
the
incentives
are
aligned.
This
main
that
chain
needs
to
be
strong.
We
gotta
get
past
all
of
these
issues,
like
with
the
collusion,
Fudd
and
work
together
on
this,
and
the
way
that's
going
to
be
done
is
in
as
part
of
the
business
model.
A
C
A
C
A
C
B
It's
not
going
to
gain
value
without
you
participating
in
governance,
making
sure
you
know
doing
your
best
to
combat
vote
collusion
by
allocating
your
vote
to
a
good
proxy
like
Miriah
or
going
out
and
voting
for
block
cruises
yourselves.
I
think
it
takes
everybody
within
the
ecosystem
to
take
an
active
role
in
governance.
B
You
know
you
don't
have
to
come
out
and
debate
on
different
governance
theories
and
do
that
that
part
of
it,
if
it
doesn't
interest
you
but
just
coming
out
and
voting
for
the
the
handful
of
block
producers,
that
you
know
and
trust
and
are
doing
a
good.
You
know
collusion
free
job
that
helps
dramatically
so
just
your
point,
taking
a
more
active
role,
I
think
will
be
huge,
especially
with
the
dabs.
A
B
We
do
not
endorse
gambling,
it's
fun
to
do.
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
good
place
to
stop
looking
on
for
a
long
time.
This
has
been
a
sort
of
a
bonus
episode.
We,
you
know
both
been
in
different
countries.
The
last
couple
weeks
and
haven't
been
in
the
same
place,
so
we
had
a
ton
to
talk
about
a
ton
of
stuff
happen
this
last
week.
So
if
you
made
it
this
far,
thank
you
for
watching
the
whole
episode.
But
until
next
time
I'm
Zack
go.