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From YouTube: Intro to LiquidApps and Their Solutions for dApp Scalability on the EOS Mainnet (DAPP Network 1/3)
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DAPP Network Series
Part 2: https://youtu.be/tB1Gvq3yV8E
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Beni Hakak and Tal Muskal are the CEO and CTO of both LiquidEOS and LiquidApps. In this episode, Zack Gall and Peter Keay have a casual discussion with the team behind the DAPP Network to learn more about the people behind the project and the series of events that lead them to EOSIO. Other topics include hackathons, 90's gaming (including a broken engagement over Final Fantasy VII), and who in the group is embarrassed over previously owning Ripple.
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A
All
right,
I
am
here
with
three
legends
here:
I'm
here
with
Peter
Kay
Benny.
How
do
I
see
your
last
name?
Benny
Hickok?
Can
you
do
crack
I
can't?
But
you
said
it
and
tau
Moscow
from
liquid
yas,
liquid
apps
and
then
Pete,
of
course,
is
with
everything
years
and
a
penis
game
studio.
Welcome
to
part
one
of
a
three-part
series
about
the
DAP
network.
Consider
this
episode
in
introduction
to
the
team
and
how
they
got
here
and
then
we'll
dive
into
the
weeds
more
technically
over
the
next
two.
A
Please
support
this
channel
by
voting
for
our
sponsor
cypher
glass,
using
your
favorite
wallet
or
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Explorer
and
don't
forget
to
Like
comment
and
subscribe.
So
this
is
actually
the
the
first
time
we're
like
meeting
in
a
conversational
setting
face
to
face,
but
it's
not
the
first
time
we've
all
met.
So
our
first
interaction
with
these
guys,
an
especially
towel,
was
at
the
u.s.
hackathon
in
San
Francisco
Pete.
You
want
to
retell
that
story
and
I'm
curious
to
hear
it
from
Taos
perspective
as
well,
because
it's
pretty
cool
yeah.
B
Sure
I
didn't
know
tell
at
the
time
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
did
Zack
or
not,
but
you
and
you
and
I
and
and
Evan
from
round
table
and
a
couple
of
guys
from
Tippett
we're
all
on
a
team
building.
Something
and
I
was
the
smart
contract.
Guy
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
remember
this,
but
the
contract
development
toolkit
had
just
pushed
a
lot
of
breaking
changes,
so
everyone
was
kind
of
trying
to
grapple.
B
Not
only
with
you
know
this
fairly
new
field
of
writing,
smart
contract
Santino's
and
coming
up
with
ideas
and
all
that,
but
also
with
you
know
their
code,
not
working
anymore,
and
so
so
I
called
cement
or
over
for
something,
and
in
retrospect
it
was
something
really
simple,
but
you
know
it
was
new
and
and
they
had
no
idea
how
to
help.
You
know
they
kind
of
stared
at
the
screen.
B
B
B
A
C
D
A
D
C
I
think
in
the
hackathon
it
was
less
less
of
a
hierarchy
where
things
escalated
and
more
like
network.
Were
things
routed
to
the
right
person
with
the
right
expertise
and-
and
there
are
very
strong
people
in
there
and
each
one
we
learned
very
quickly
who
to
route
the
things
for
I,
for
example,
dealt
mostly.
We
saw
a
lot
of
Bank
or
algorithm
related
projects
there
and
then
naturally,
I
focused
most
of
the
time
on
those
projects,
because
that
that's
where
I
can
help
the
most
so.
A
That
brings
up
an
interesting
point
and
it's
something:
Pete
and
I
talked
about
on
our
podcast
or
this
week
or
last
week,
I
guess
when
this
airs,
but
how
everyone
in
blockchain
it
seems
like
they
bring
all
these
different
skill
sets.
So
you
talked
about
Bank.
Well,
that
was
your
specialty,
but
in
blockchain
it
seems
like
everyone
developers
included
they're,
not
just
developers,
they
have
these
like
hobbies
or
interests
that
they
bring
to
the
table
and
it
makes
everyone
so
unique
and
different
so
outside
of
like
computer
science.
C
C
C
A
D
My
background
is
actually
an
engineer
as
well.
I
mean
that's
what
engineering
management
that's
what
I
had
studied,
but
I
haven't
written
code
for
quite
some
time
now,
but
I
bring
an
economy
economic
background
with
me,
and
one
of
my
one
of
the
things
I
like
the
most
is
actually
behavioral
economics
and
I
feel
like
in
our
field
in
the
boxing
field.
Is
it's
amazing
to
see
how
how
this
work
and
and
what
are
the
actions
that
people
are
taking,
essentially
as
if
this
will
be
in
the
outside
world
as
well
and
I?
D
D
D
B
D
A
Not
do
a
song,
why
don't?
Why
don't
we
move
along
here
and
get
into
whatever
and
actually
wants
to
hear
about,
and
everyone's
been
waiting
for
and
let's,
let's
get
into
the
meat
of
this
conversation?
Let's,
let's
talk
about
the
DAP
network
and
in
liquid
apps
and
the
the
story
of
liquid
apps
liquid
is
also
so.
Everyone
keeps
hearing
your
names
associated
with
liquid
apps,
but
you're.
Also,
the
CEO
and
CTO
of
liquid
yose
who's
always
been
you've
been
in
the
top
twenty
one,
the
entire
time
I'm.
C
We
we
focused
on
that
from
that
point
and
helping
developers,
that's
think,
that's
we
can
I
have
I,
have
a
rule
that
every
time
I
see
a
very
something
that
I
know
I
can
solve
in
in
two
minutes
in
the
years
developers
group,
even
if
it
means
writing
their
few
lines
of
code.
I
always
do
that
and
then
usually
people
think
I
have
the
these
in
advance.
The
script
I.
A
Think
that's
one
of
the
most
amazing
things
about
the
EOS
community
in
the
developer.
Community,
especially,
is
people
like
you
doing
that
Nathan
James
does
the
same
exact
thing
and
it's
like
how
do
these
guys
put
reproduce
so
much
excellent
code
and
product
and
still
have
the
time
to
participate
in
telling
him
so
much
I,
don't
know
how
you
guys
like
live
and
sleep
and
like
live
a
regular
life
outside
of
us,
but
I.
D
A
Can,
whenever
I'm
on
telegram
I,
don't
know
like
there's
people
that
live
in
Australia
all
these
weird
time
zones
I
would
never
know
the
difference
because
we're
just
always
there
and
I'm
the
same
way
like
I.
Wake
up
to
go
to
the
bathroom
at
like
3:00
in
the
morning,
I'm
I'm,
writing
on
telegram
and
answering
questions.
A
But
I
think
that's
the
biggest
value.
One
of
the
biggest
values,
though,
is
the
community
and
I.
Think
that's
why
a
lot
of
other
projects
and
platforms
they're
starting
to
take
notice
if
they've
been
ignoring
EOS,
we've
seen
so
Bank
where's,
one
of
them
and
they've
been
supporting
us
since
before
the
main
net,
but
now
we're
seeing
with
like
khyber
one
chain
and
then
who's
the
most
recent
one
that
was
just
like
a
day
ago.
Pete
help
me
out.
You
know
this
101.
A
One
chain
is
so
it's
khyber
one
chain,
whatever
we'll
just
stick
with
those.
Those
are
some
big
projects.
So,
speaking
of
banquet
before
we
start
asking,
I
keep
delaying
on
the
DAP
Network
questions
everyone's
been
waiting
for
these
questions,
but
this
is
the
story
of
this
and
how
you
guys
got
involved
with
gos
actually
goes
back
prior
to
the
main
net,
so
the
first
I
was
aware
of
the
bank
or
team
working
at
all
with
the
block.
One
team
was
at
the
dawn,
4.0
release
back
in
May.
The
I
think
is
the
last
release.
A
Maybe
the
last
release
candidate
before
the
main
that
launch,
but
the
RAM
market
was
announced
that
included
the
use
of
the
bank
or
algorithm.
So
how
long,
and
were
you
guys
involved?
What
was
you
guys,
involvement
with
that?
If
you're
allowed
to
talk
about
it
and
how
long
prior
to
that
release
candidate,
were
you
working
with
them
being
able
to
speak
on
that
yeah.
D
So,
actually
a
part
of
the
bank
or
team
flown
in
and
actually
met
with
Dan
Larimer
right
before
this
happened
me
and
tau
were
not
there.
Yeah
I
have
to
say,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
the
founder
of
founders
and
the
whole
team
are
real
believers
in
the
EOS
echo
system,
and
this
is
what
led
them
to
me
with
band
I.
D
Think
Dan
really
appreciates
the
work
of
the
banker
team
as
well,
and
this
what
this
is
actually
what
brought
him
into
implementing
the
RAM
algorithm
on
on
the
base
of
the
bank
or
protocol
itself,
and
they
kind
of
infused
the
technology
together
that
week,
and
actually,
we
saw
just
a
few
days
ago,
the
bank
or
stand
on
top
of
this
with
the
new
integrated
wallet
yeah
first
time.
First.
A
D
It
first
of
all
they
were
really
supportive.
They
completely
understood
I,
left
and
joined
Cal
and
actually
created
liquid
EOS.
At
that
time,
people
didn't
hear
about
it
in
the
community.
We
kind
of
kept
it
in
the
background
and
kind
of
sent
the
first
blog
post
about
a
few
weeks
before
the
main
at
launch,
but
as
we
like
to
do,
we
did
it,
including
the
first
voting
app.
It
was
available
at
the
time
again
what
Kyle
said
before
about
us
bringing
more
and
more
technology
and
trying
to
get
the
most
value
into
the
EOS
ecosystem.
D
C
C
Life,
basically
so
from
from
that
moment
after
we,
it
was
pretty
obvious
that
us
would
be
the
first,
the
first
chain
to
expand
to,
but
once
we
were
seeing
the
technology
and
and
seeing
how
how
good
it
is,
and
then
it's
actually
ready
for
for
the
kind
of
things
that
were
were
talking
about
for
years,
I.
Think
of
scaleable
tabs
that
are
not
just
for
financial
transactions
or
crypto
kitties
and
and
it
was
very
natural
to
go
fooling
on
that
swim
for
Mike
spec.
D
Perspective
so
the
management
team
and
the
founders
of
bank,
or
we
know
what
happened
with
atrium.
There
are
a
few
things
that
the
bank,
or
as
a
company
needed
in
the
interim
based
protocol
updates
and
other
changes.
The
conversation
that
led
a
more
profound
team
focusing
on
EOS
came
in
addition
to
that
form
like
if
we
are
going
to
make
the
first
IBC,
we
better
know
exactly
what
we're
dealing
with.
We
better
know
and
learn
the
technology
as
much
as
we
can
and
establish
a
good
connect
and
relationship
with
the
EOS
protocol.
D
A
That's
I've
never
heard
that
side
of
the
story
and
it's
kind
of
interesting
because
as
I
mention
like
with
Khyber
and
Wan
chain,
these
other
projects,
building
these
bridges
and
relays
they're
not
necessarily
moving
to
you
it's
just
like
Bank
or
is
still
in
aetherium
project.
It
still
has
the
etherium
token,
but
it's
almost
like
keeping
your
options
open,
because
that's
gonna
make
it's
going
to
ensure
that
the
project
survives
in
a
worst
case
scenario
with
etherium.
It
doesn't
mean
it's
going
to
fail.
A
A
And
this
all
ties
into
that.
That's
what
decentralization
is
all
about.
If
we
are
all
some
blockchain
maximalist
like
yes,
I
support
us
more
than
any
other
chain,
but
that
doesn't
mean
I
I,
don't
want
the
others
to
succeed
as
well.
I
want
us
all
to
succeed.
Competition
is
exactly
what
we
want
and
it
makes
everyone
work
harder
and
better,
and
hopefully,
at
some
point,
work
together.
C
A
C
D
D
A
D
B
D
C
A
Like
almost
puts
the
guys
who
take
the
time
to
do
that,
that's
a
skill
set
in
itself
beyond
being
technical,
being
social
like
that
is
a
whole
different
skill
set,
and
that's
what
I
was
talking
about
earlier.
With
these
different
skill
sets
you
bring
to
the
table
you,
you
might
not
see
it
as
social.
Like
is
the
same
as
like
socializing
with
your
friends,
but
it
is
socializing.
It's
building
a
community,
it's
creating
engagement!
A
That
engagement
is
what
creates
a
community
and
it
brings
everybody
up
because,
like
you
said
earlier
well,
something
that
might
take
you
two
minutes
might
might
take
someone
new
ten
days
two
hours.
However
long
it
takes
them,
it's
probably
not
two
minutes
and
if
you
could
save
them
that
time
then
they're
on
to
the
next
problem
and
then
maybe
someone
else
would
be
able
to
solve
that
the
next
solution
that
they
can't
figure
out
themselves
so.
A
C
C
C
A
He's
like
open
book
he's
hilarious
and
he
like
just
shines
but
then
like.
Sometimes
whenever,
like
we
were
around
new
people,
he's
quiet
I
see
that
all
the
time
with
technical
people
and
I
like
to
kind
of
lighten
them
up,
make
them
feel
comfortable
because
they're
not
always
introverted.
It's
just
like
they
have
to
get
comfortable
first
and
be
talking
about
something
that
they
enjoy
and
interested
in,
which
obviously
is
yes.
B
B
It
is
but
outside
of
the
scope
of
this
conversation,
I
actually
like
this,
isn't
a
company
or
even
like
a
github
repo
I,
like
what
block
one
is
doing
down
in
Virginia,
Tech
and
education
and,
like
Tawas,
an
outreach
to
introverted.
You
know,
people
the
the
prospect
of
having
blockchain
courses,
EOS
courses
and
universities,
not
just
Virginia
Tech
but
beyond
I,
think
that's
something
super
exciting
and
yeah.
That's
that's
what.
A
She
has
a
wallet
because
I've
been
trying
for
a
year
now
or
I,
guess
less
than
a
year
since
the
maintenance
as
inton
live,
but
I've
been
wanting
her
to
get
just
an
account
for
the
longest
time.
Just
to
say
she
has
one
just
for
whenever
the
first
DAP
comes
around
that
she's,
actually
gonna
use
and
I
sent
her
message
and
I
did
a
video
with
her
and
I
was
just
excited
to
get
her
on
board
because
she
she
she
accepts
this
thing
so
tell
are
you
married
also
yeah.
A
C
The
same
she
did
the
same
in
facebook
when,
when
it
launched,
she
opened
like
a
bunch
of
pages
and
they
become
became
very
big.
So
we
said
why
not
do
the
same
and
just
the
the
opportunity
cost
is
so
is
so
low
in
for
being
like
it's
being
an
early
adopter,
even
without
knowing
the
bits
and
bytes
that
I
think
she
she
took
the
opportunity,
but
but
she's
not
she's,
not
a
developer
or
anything
or
in
the
industry.
I'm
still
working
on
that
the.
A
Whole
dynamic
between
blockchain
people,
especially
career
blockchain
people
and
their
their
wives
or
girlfriends
or
boyfriends,
is
almost
an
episode
in
itself.
Because
that's
another
topic
you
could
bring
up
in
any
telegram
channel
and
all
these
people
could
relate
to
exactly
what
you're
going
through.
So
so
Benny
how's
your
situation
with
your
obsession
here
with
blockchain
at
home.
D
D
C
But
he
he
actually
broke
up
with
his
fiance
over
Final
Fantasy
7
and
when
we
talked
about
it
when
he
mentioned
that
that
he's
actually
she
made
it.
She
made
a
choice,
it's
me
or
the
game,
and
he
took
him
like
a
while
to
to
give
her
an
answer,
and
she
just
left
and
I
asked
him
immediately
wait.
Was
it
Final,
Fantasy,
7.
A
Shout
out
and
respect
all
the
wives,
girlfriends
and
boyfriends
out
there
that
put
up
with
this
I
know
my
wife.
God
bless
her.
She
deals
with
this.
It's
like
a
24/7
obsession
but
yeah
we're
making
it
through.
So
we
said
rapid-fire
questions
right,
I
gotta
go
to
the
next
one.
What
was
your
first
love
in
crypto
after
discovering
BTC.
C
C
Easy
I
think
the
moment
that
the
blockchain
started
to
form
to
the
to
being
like
trying
to
be
a
full
Turing
machine,
a
virtual
machine
that
that,
when
they
blew
my
mind
that
were
smart
contracts
were
introduced.
Where
were
a
theory
on
virtual
machine
was
was
just
beginning.
I
think
that
that
just
blew
my
mind
so.
C
A
B
To
think
about
that,
it's
probably
something
that
I
still
have
that's
worth
like
you
know
a
dollar,
so
I
just
leave
it
there.
So
I'm,
just
gonna
scroll,
all
the
way
down.
I
got
mine.
It's
a
shield.
It
was
this
privacy.
Currency
was
into
again
quantum
resistance.
I
went
through
this
real,
like
quantum
resistant
phase
and
at.
C
A
A
C
C
A
C
A
A
B
C
A
D
C
C
B
C
D
C
A
C
C
A
A
B
Let's
see
I
mean
it's
yeah,
it's
XCOM,
Age
of
Empires
or
I,
had
it
but
just
lost
it
yeah,
it's
either
ex-con
major
empires
or
or
Silent
Hill.
Probably,
let's
see
I'm
gonna
have
to
say
XCOM
I,
don't
know
it's.
You
know
kind
of
nerdy
game.
If
you
guys
don't
play
Dex
come
there's
a
reboot
like
the
same
game
but
in
modern
graphics.
It's
pretty
cool
mine.