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Fargo Public Schools - Board of Education Meeting - Live Broadcast - August 28, 2018
A
Good
evening
it
is
5:30
call
the
a
regular
meeting
of
Fargo
Board
of
Education
to
order
at
Tuesday
August
28th
I
would
like
to
move
under
the
consent
agenda
5e
to
the
third
item
under
business
for
a
slight
I.
Believe
it's
a
I'll
call
it
a
typo.
So
I
just
want
to
have
a
question
verse
a
ssin
about
that.
Is
there
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
agenda
settlement
Christine.
A
That's
the
one
that
I
was
referencing.
Is
memo
18?
Okay,
all
right
so
there's
been
a
motion.
Is
there
a
second
did
we,
okay,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
same
sign
opposed,
would
be
nay.
Okay,
we
have
a
approval
of
the
agenda.
We
don't
have
anyone
signed
up
to
speak
to
us
this
evening.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
Those
of
you
here.
Moving
on
to
staff
reports,
do
we
have
our
FAA
report?
Laura,
hello,.
D
Yes,
you
should
have
a
handout
with
the
enrollment,
as
of
today
in
front
of
you
and
we'll
just
kind
of
highlight
a
few
things
and
answer
any
questions.
So
our
starting
aroma
in
the
first
day
was
eleven
thousand
four
hundred
forty-five
students
and,
as
of
today,
we're
at
11,000
429.
It
is
very
common
that
we
go
down
in
most
districts
after
the
first
day,
and
so
that's
why
our
November
first
date
is
so
important
and
that's
also
where
the
funding
comes
in.
D
So
when
we
look
at
November
first
last
year,
just
for
a
point
of
reference,
it
was
eleven
thousand
three
hundred
and
twenty
one.
If
that's
helpful
from
last
November,
when
we
take
a
look,
will
look
at
elementary
first.
One
thing
that
we'll
notice
is
that
the
elementary
Bennett
is
our
highest
class
section
school,
so
they're
running
very
close
to
12.
The
average
is
21
point,
eight,
so
kind
of
shows
the
growth
on
the
south
side
when
I
compared
the
Elementary's
to
last
year's
Elementary's
from
November
1,
there's
I,
guess
slight
growth.
D
But
the
growth
is
on
the
south
side,
where
we're
seeing
more
students
added
and
otherwise
were
relatively
the
same
across
the
board.
You
know
some
are
a
few
higher
somewhere
a
few
lower,
but
overall,
so
that
is
where
we
are
at.
We
did
add
a
section
at
Horace
Mann
the
day
before
school
started
in
second
grade.
We
were
running
at
28
in
a
2nd
grade
section,
and
so
we
have
really
been
watching
that
one
as
we
went
forward.
D
If
we
flip
the
sheet
over
and
we
look
at
middle
school
and
high
school
across
the
board,
it
is
we
notice
that
discovery
is
our
largest
building
and
I'm
just
going
to
double
check
that
against
last
year,
as
I
go
across
and
discovery
has
is
up
and
which
we
went.
That
goes
right
with
the
pattern
that
we're
seeing
on
the
south
side.
D
Ben
Franklin
is
up
slightly
and
CBE
is
really
about
10
up
so
I
mean
they're
very,
very
close
to
what
they
were
a
year
ago.
If
we
take
a
look
at
Davies
again
is
up
from
last
year
and
I
did
think
as
interesting.
That
North
is
also
up
from
last
year
and
South
is
just
down
slightly,
that's
very
close,
so
I
guess
it
would
make
sense,
since
our
numbers
are
very
similar
to
last
year
where
the
buildings
would
be
at.
But
again
we
are
seeing
that
growth
on
the
south
side.
E
D
C
F
F
C
D
A
G
A
E
So
you
will
see
a
copy
of
our
operational
plan
for
this
school
year.
Predominant
significant
changes
going
into
this
school
year
is
that
we've
obviously
included
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we
discussed
at
the
last
work
session
that
we
had
over
the
summer.
So
you
will
see
information
on
our
ECSC
task
force,
our
LRE
behavior
task
force,
and
then
we
also
made
and
then
which
is
subsequently
going
to
lead
into
our
building
capacity
and
usage
task
force.
E
So
that's
been
included
in
the
operational
plan,
but
then
we
also
went
ahead
and
included
information
on
the
safety
committee
that
we
are
doing
with
staff
and
the
recommendation
that
will
come
to
the
board
as
well.
So
that's
also
included
in
the
operational
plan
and
that's
for
your
first
reading
and
then
based
on
any
feedback.
We'd
bring
it
back
for
a
final
approval.
A
I
E
Yeah
sure
so
we
are
looking
at
notification
at
the
end
of
this
month
or
the
beginning
of
next
month,
we're
still
working
with
West
Fargo
to
start
identifying.
We
started
to
begin
to
identify
the
different
roles
of
individuals
that
we'll
have
and
we
have
started
reaching
out
to
Effie
a
for
for
their
membership
recommendations
and
things
of
that
nature.
E
Hopefully,
to
start
the
work
in
the
middle
of
September
still
trying
to
finalize
some
dates
for
what
those
meetings
would
look
like
and
then
same
thing
for
ECSC
I
believe
there's
a
meeting
already
happening
to
determine
which
roles
of
individuals
will
be
there
and
then
we'll
go
through
and
make
a
call
for
all
staff
that
are
interested
and
then
go
and
select
individuals
from
there.
Thank.
I
A
Anyone
else
I
wanted
to
notice
on
page
six
under
standard
two
learning
capacity
domain.
There
is
also
the
mention
of
a
task
force,
facilitate
a
task
force
to
study
language,
immersion
programming,
potential
implementation,
long-range
planning
and
develop
recommendations
for
the
school
board.
I
believe
we
might
have
discussed
that
at
our
work
session
briefly,
so
I
just
wanted
to
note,
because
we've
been
visiting
about
other
task
forces
that
that
is
also
included.
So
thank
you
absolutely
and
on
to
the
second
or
the
third
fourth
item
under
staff
reports,
a
strategic
plan,
re-approve
'el
mr.
Gandhi
sure.
E
So
this
is
just
for
your
review,
our
annual
update
to
the
strategic
plan.
Some
of
this.
We
did
some
changes
in
terms
of
just
taking
out
some
of
the
information
to
make
it
more
lean.
So
we
have
taken
out,
we've
updated
or
to
our
community
pages,
remove
some
of
the
pictures
and
short
shortened
that
piece,
but
significant
changes
into
the
strategic
plan
is
on
strategic
on
one
of
our
strategic
goals
around
positive
culture.
We
added
safety,
as
that
is
going
to
be
a
priority
for
us
as
a
district
address
that
as
well.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
all
right.
Moving
on
to
the
consent
agenda,
is
there
a
motion
for
approval
so.
J
K
Article
10
work
year
has
been
updated
to
use
consistent
usage
of
days
versus
hours
there
and
provide
time
for
classroom
preparation
and
grading
salary.
Related
articles
have
been
updated.
The
article
5
article
9
appendix
1
and
2
to
grant
this
step,
whereas
there's
been
some
adjustments
made
to
the
top
of
the
steps
or
bottom,
depending
on
how
you
look
at
it
and
the
appendix
to
the
summer
school.
K
Also,
recognizing
a
lane
movement
there
and
not
in
the
contract,
but
discussed
quite
a
bit
during
the
negotiations
and
actioned
as
far
as
operating
plan
and
at
our
July
10th
meeting
the
formation
of
a
committee
related
to
studying
safety
related
issues.
I
have
not
come
with
a
recommendation
for
the
board
to
ratify
this
tonight,
because
the
FAA
is
still
waiting
for
the
results
of
holding
their
members.
It's
been
past
practice
that
the
board
would
not
ratify
or
approve
the
contract
until
and
unless
the
FAA
has
done.
K
So
they
have
that
out
right
now
to
their
membership.
That's
due
to
be
all
the
ballots
received
by
midnight
of
tomorrow
night,
and
so
once
we
received
notice
that
they
have
ratified
this.
We
would
then
be
able
to
move
forward
with
their
the
special
meeting.
If
we
wanted
to
hurry
this
up
or
we
could
wait
until
our
next
regular
meeting
on
the
11th
of
September,
the
there's
some
consideration
there.
K
If
we
wanted
to
have
this
fully
ratified
so
that
the
administration
could
action
it
in
time
for
the
September
15th
payroll,
we
would
want
to
meet
as
soon
as
possible
next
week
and
so
I
don't
have
any
motions
but
I'd
be
I.
Think
we
were
able
to
have
some
discussion
on
this
or,
if
there's
any
questions
about
the
process.
At
this
point,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
those
thank.
C
C
K
Technically,
there
is
not
know
what
we're
really
wanting
to
I
think
avoid.
Here
is
any
perception
that
we
are
once
again
imposing
a
contract
or
moving
forward
without
the
FDA
being
on
board.
With
this,
there
is
also
it's
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
gray
area,
but
it
could
be
seen
that
well
what
I
just
said
that
we're
imposing
this
and
that,
once
the
board
has
put
their
signatures
to
this
or
voted
to
approve
it,
that
this
is
the
contract,
whether
or
not
the
FDA
approves
that,
and
we
want.
K
A
Okay,
so
since
this
is
a
it's
on
as
a
business
item,
but
we're
not
taking
any
action,
we've
just
had
conversation.
We're
able
to
is
there
anything
formal
that
we
need
to
do,
whether
than
that
Annmarie
right?
We're
good,
we'll
wait
to
hear
when
we
take
the
next
step.
Thank
you.
Business
item
B
policy
monitoring.
There
are
two
items
memo
there
and
remember
to
memo.
20
and
21.
J
A
L
K
K
A
A
J
C
F
A
G
L
K
B
G
A
H
You
called
on
me
because
I'm
always
ready
right:
okay
liaison
reports,
I
did
connect
with
Cass
Public
Health
with
Linda
Anderson,
so
have
not
attended
the
first
meeting,
but
I
am
will
be
officially
approved
to
be
on
that
board
soon.
City
PTA
board
meeting
tomorrow
is
in
this
meeting
or
in
this
room
at
noon.
I
attended
Washington
back-to-school
night.
It
was
very
well
attended.
I
spent
the
whole
evening.
H
There
I
also
met
with
Washington's
PTA
president
I'm,
as
scheduled
to
speak
at
their
first
regular
meeting
on
September
10th
as
their
school
liaison
I,
along
with
Rebecca,
attended
the
Native
American
Commission
community
picnic
on
Saturday,
which
was
also
very
well
attended.
Last
night,
along
with
several
others,
I
attended
a
DPI's
safety
forum,
something
that
I
might
want
to
bring
to
your
attention.
I
know
it's
common
practice
for
us
to
board
members
to
attend
xyn
issues
through
the
chamber.
There
is
a
special
meeting.
H
Their
annual
meeting
is
Wednesday
September
19th
and
at
those
annual
meetings
that
they
honor
a
legacy
leader
and
that
person
is
Judy,
Lee
she's,
a
senator
Judy
Lee
from
West
Fargo.
She
is
the
chair
of
the
Health
and
Human
Services,
Committee
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
gesture
that
the
board
were
to
support
her
in
that.
So
I
will
leave
that
up
to
the
president.
H
A
A
J
K
That's
pretty
nice
and
I,
like
the
messages
that
we
heard
there.
I
thought
it
was
a
great
event
again.
I
attended
last
night,
the
department
public
instruction
Safety
listening
forum,
I
thought
that
was
interesting.
I
wanted
to
my
thanks
to
everybody
who
did
show
up
for
that.
It
was
quite
a
quite
an
audience
there.
Thanks
to
all
the
board
members
here
who
showed
up
to
that,
there
are
quite
a
few
legislators,
other
district
board
members
and
administration.
We
had
art
some
of
our
administration.
K
There
there
were
parents,
there
were
teachers,
there
were
other
community
and
state
leadership
officials,
their
law
enforcement
officers,
and
so
it
was
good.
We
had
an
opportunity
to
share
what
we've
been
doing
in
Fargo
public
schools
to
try
and
address
the
needs
of
our
students
and
our
staff,
and
finally,
last
but
certainly
not
least,
I
was
able
to
take
my
kids
back
to
school
in
the
past
week
and
so
got
them
started
off
on
the
right
foot
at
Clara,
Barton
and
Ben
Franklin,
so
Paul's
a
good
time.
So
thank
you.
A
I
Okay,
I
attended
the
back-to-school
night
over
at
Clara
Barton
in
Hawthorne.
It
was
pretty
neat
cuz,
I
I,
think
those
schools
are
just
they've,
got
character
and
then
I
have
reached
out
to
Centennial
principal
and
Clara
Barton
Hawthorne
principals
for
my
first
visit
with
them
and
that's
all
I
have
Thank
You
Christy.
J
I've
connected
with
Becky
Bakke,
Development,
Foundation
and
I
heard
a
lot
of
really
positive
comments
as
well
about
our
back-to-school
kickoff
and
what
I
felt
is
as
people
were
coming
in
and
we
were
greeting
a
much
different
joyous
atmosphere
versus
last
year,
and
it
was
really
refreshing,
and
people
were
talking
about
that
as
well.
It
was
good
thank.
A
B
Those
six
include
costs
associated
with
English
language,
learners,
increasing
the
expenditure
and
total
funds
for
the
school
construction
loan
program,
finding
some
legislative
dollars
to
address
the
tff,
our
funding
gap,
focusing
separate
state
funding
on
early
childhood
education,
funding,
adequacy
and
property
tax
reduction
and
expanding
the
support
for
after-school
programming
throughout
the
all
school
districts
in
North
Dakota.
We
also
are
going
to
recommend,
read
option
of
an
amended
standard
or
an
amended
item,
and
that
would
be
the
ongoing
support
for
implementation
of
North
Dakota
State
Standards.
There
was
one
new
resolution
submitted.
B
This
actually
came
from
the
State
Board.
Actually
it
came
out
of
my
computer
and
it
will
go
to
the
membership.
Basically,
it
would
be
to
advocate
to
allow
safety
and
security
measures
to
be
discussed
in
executive
session,
which
currently
they
have
to
be
done
in
an
open
meeting,
and
we
think
there's
legislative
support
for
that
at
this
point
in
time.
About
a
week
ago,
I
attended
the
North.
The
national
school
board.
B
Leadership
Institute
in
Chicago
got
a
legal
update
on
what
they
think
we're
fighting
for
in
Washington
DC,
which
nobody
really
knows
what
we're
fighting
for,
because
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
any
clear
definition
or
direction
out
of
the
Department
of
Education.
Right
now
there
was
a
presentation
by
dr.
Timothy
Hodge
of
the
Gallup
Organization.
It
was
probably
the
best
thing
of
the
entire
weekend.
In
my
opinion,
the
topic
I
was
really
concerned
about
because
I
thought.
B
Okay,
this
is
another
person
that
wants
to
tell
me
we're
not
preparing
people
for
the
workforce,
but
instead
what
he
really
talked
about
was
the
data
that
Gallup
has
on
students
and
staff.
They
do
annual
surveys
throughout
the
entire
country,
tens
of
thousands
of
people-
and
it
shouldn't
have
come
as
a
surprise,
but
it
did
the
big
AHA
data.
From
last
year's
study,
74%
of
the
fifth-grade
students
in
America
feel
engaged
in
their
education.
B
50%
of
seventh-grade
students
saw
a
25%
drop
in
two
years,
32%
feel
engaged
by
11th
grade
anecdotally.
They
think
this
may
have
to
do
with
the
transition
from
a
single
teacher
classroom
environment
that
elementary
as
where
you
have
your
own
room
own
group
of
students.
You
feel
at
home
to
our
middle
school
on
high
school
type,
scheduling
where
you've
got
a
different
group
of
teachers
and
a
different
group
of
students
from
class
to
class.
But
nobody
really
knows.
If
that's
the
reason
or
not,
he
said
it
goes
across
the
board.
B
Rural
versus
urban,
wealthy
versus
poor
school
districts
doesn't
seem
to
matter.
Data
is
pretty
dramatic
and
it's
been
getting
worse
over
time.
So
student
engagement,
which
hopefully
these
are
not
Fargo's
numbers,
but
they
probably
are,
is
what
the
message
was
and
I
have
his
full
presentation
I'll
be
happy
to
email
it
out
to
people.
B
B
The
five
that
have
emerged
are
quality
early
childhood
education,
support
for
safe
and
health,
behaviors
career
exploration,
quality,
educational
personnel
and
quality
instruction
for
personal
learning.
Each
of
this
stakeholder
organizations
has
either
already
or
is
in
the
process
of
looking
at
those
five
in
deciding
what
what
is
their
role
and
helping
achieve
that
for
our
state
and
we're
gonna.
Try
to
get
some
cohesiveness
to
figure
out
what
are
the
gaps
where
we
overlapping
would
be
more
effective
as
a
state
in
making
these
things
happen.
B
I
bring
this
to
your
attention,
because
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
share
was
what's
coming
out
of
the
education
policy
interim
legislative
committee.
They
have
at
this
point
in
time
put
three
bills
forward.
One
hat
is
to
have
dpi,
hold
annual
meetings
to
review
and
update
that
strategic
vision
sheet.
I
just
asked
around,
and
it
includes
language
now
keep
in
mind.
This
is
coming
from
the
interim
committee.
B
The
second
major
piece
of
legislation
is
really
language
clean
up
to
eliminate
No,
Child,
Left
Behind
and
replace
it
with
essa
and
legislative
bills
that
exist
and
wanna
that's
out
there
currently
and
the
last
one
I
found
pretty
interesting.
It
is
going
to
change
the
controlling
and
responsible
party
for
adult
education
and
adult
secondary
education
programs
from
dpi
to
job
services,
and
apparently
dpi
is
on
board
with
this
change.
I.
B
Think
again,
it's
all
about
this
push
that
we
have
got
to
make
more
people
ready
for
the
workplace,
so
give
them
a
bigger
role
in
it.
The
interesting
thing
is,
it
looks
like
any
allocation
for
adult
basic
or
secondary
education
programs
will
then
flow
through
job
service,
ultimately
down
to
school
districts.
A
C
The
staff
opener
I
attended
the
safety
meeting
last
night
I
to
head
back
to
school
night
at
three
different
schools
in
one
evening,
I
made
it
to
one
so
we
divided
and
conquered,
and
actually
discovery
ended
up
cancelling.
So
we
did
get
them
covered
all
in
all.
In
one
night,
communication
committee
will
hopefully
meet
in
September,
but
we
do
need
the
dates
back
of
those
of
you
that
are
on
the
committee,
your
availability,
so
that
email
went
out
so
I'm
waiting
on
that
date
and
really
my
additional
comments
really
are.
C
There
was
kind
of
a
common
theme
and
all
the
speakers
that
I
heard
at
both
the
staff,
opener
and
also
listening
to
mr.
Cody,
speak
to
his
staff,
and
that
is
it
takes
a
village
and-
and
we
really,
you
know,
needs
to
be
listening
to
our
students
and
our
parents,
but
our
community
as
well,
and
that
was
the
safety
committee
I
felt
like
that
was
kind
of
the
key
takeaway
to
is.
We
need
to
all
partner,
and
now
more
than
ever,
in
public
education
and
in
safety.
C
We
needed
to
do
that,
and
you
know
the
most
recent
statistic
that
I
heard
locally
was
that
Fargo
residents,
less
than
20%
of
them,
have
kiddos
in
k-12,
and
so
when
I
say
that
it's
it's
I
heard
dr.
Draper
say
it
I
heard
people
last
night
say
it
that
we
need
to
find
ways
to
engage
our
entire
community
in
these
conversations
and
I
know
that
that's
a
big
ask
and
a
big
challenge,
but
it
was
a
common
theme
that
I
heard
throughout
all
of
these
things:
I
attended
in
the
past
few
weeks.
C
M
Attended
the
staff
eye-opener
and
talked
to
both
of
my
principals
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
talking
to
mr.
Williams
about
discovery.
I
was
kind
of
concerned
on
how
things
are
gonna
move
down
there,
and
here
he
said
they
should
have
it
under
control.
I
also
went
to
the
safety
meeting
last
night
and
I
was
surprised.
We
had
so
few
people
there.
M
I
was
at
I
was
asking
him
about.
You
know
things
like
parking,
how
are
they
gonna
pull
up
in
the
mornings
and
stuff?
And
he
said
you
know
it
was
gonna
be
tight,
but
they
do
it
and
he
said
they
they'd
been
studying
the
flows
inside
the
building
and
he
said
it's
we're
gonna
make
it
work.
Just
fine
I
mean
he
was
I,
got
the
principal
speak
and
he's.
It
was
very
good
and
it
sounds
like
it's
gonna
be
just
fine.
C
To
that,
as
a
parent
with
a
student
over
there,
the
drop
off
was
amazing.
It
was,
he
really
has
it
controlled.
There
is
staff
out
there
directing
and
making
sure,
also
that
you're
stopping
for
students
I
mean
because
it
looks
like
a
mess,
but
he
it's
a
controlled
mess
and
there
are,
there
are
walls
up
everywhere.
My
daughter
says
temporary
walls
in
inside
the
building,
but
they
are
making
it
work.
It
sounds
like
so.
E
A
E
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
capitalize
on
on
this
conversation
and
just
give
a
kudos
to
the
discovery,
staff
administrators
and
then
also
to
everyone.
That's
been
an
entire
summer
working
around
the
clock
to
make
that
happen,
I
think
the,
but
the
new
bus
loop
was
a
big
priority
to
smooth
the
drop-off
in
dismissal
process.
So,
although
it
looks
messy,
it
is
more
efficient
now
and
we
I
think
everyone's
has
been
working
around
the
clock.
L
A
All
right,
thank
you.
I
I
too,
was
at
the
safety
meeting
last
evening,
thanks
to
everyone
there
we
were
kind
of
sprinkled
amongst
the
audience
and
the
attendance
was
you
know.
Certainly
it
was
the
theater
was
not
full,
but
there
were
important
people
there
and
there
was
important
discussion
and
the
people
showing
up
are
the
ones
that
are
to
be
there.
I
guess:
Manavi
ously,
it's
not
the
end
of
conversations
we
we
have
that
going
on
within
our
own
district.
A
A
A
I
heard
such
positive
feedback
I
visited
was
someone
working
as
a
para
in
our
school
system,
and
he
said
I'm
so
proud
to
be
part
of
Fargo
schools
and
to
have
the
opportunity
to
be
a
part
of
it,
and
this
was
his
first
time
attending
an
event
like
this,
so
kudos
to
everyone
that
was
involved
in
that
governance
meets
tomorrow
at
7:30
a.m.
I
would
suggest
I
know
Robin.
You
talked
about
some
of
the
goals
for
your
committee,
but
the
other
committees
too.
A
Once
you
have
a
chance
to
meet
to
put
some
goals
together
that,
then
you
can
report
back
that
information
when
we
meet
next
a
couple
of
items
that
I
left
off
when
we
had
our
last
board
meeting
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I've
been
spending
some
time
attending
sessions
in
our
community
regarding
human
trafficking
and
we've
had
sessions
at
our
state
school
boards.
Associations.
Meetings
on
that
as
well,
that
I've
attended.
But
this
was
in
July
it
was
July
26.
There
was
a
one
on
human
trafficking
sponsored
by
the
FM
Coalition
for
the
homeless.
A
I
would
just
encourage
all
of
us
to
take
the
opportunity
to
become
educated
about
some
of
the
information
that
is
that
goes
on
within
our
community
and
within
our
state
regarding
human
trafficking,
because
we
might
have
some
of
that
to
deal
with.
You
know
within
our
own
community
here
within
our
school
district
and
so
just
important
information.
A
It's
it's
not
at
all
comfortable
to
hear
what
is
shared,
but
the
information
and
kind
of
having
a
heads
up
on
that
this,
something
that
goes
on
within
our
community
I
think
is
worthwhile
for
us
to
all
have
and
Robin
I
know
that
I'm
sure
you
will
be
participating
in
this,
but
I
on
July
30th
I
went
to
it
was
the
community
health
needs
assessment
and
Cass
Public
Health
is
as
part
of
that
dr.
gross
was
there
and
at
the
at
the
time
board.
Member
Dinah
Goldenberg
was
there
as
well.
A
H
H
A
Thank
you
as
well
to
those
of
you
that
shared
information
regarding
what
we
have
going
on
in
our
district
regarding
safety
and
I
was,
as
I
said,
we
were
sprinkled
behind
all
around
throughout
that
theater
and
just
as
John
was
about
ready
to
or
as
John
was
gonna
start
say
what
he
mentioned.
I
was
sitting
there
thinking,
okay,
if
no
one
else
does
anything
I'm
going,
to
my
hand,
was
about
ready
to
go
up
at
the
same
time
as
yours
so
and
Andrew
pock.
Yours
was
okay,
so.