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From YouTube: A Regenerative Finance Platform - Adrian Wons Senken
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A
Thanks
a
lot,
I'm
really
hyped
after
the
panel
we
had
before
because
it
perfectly
set
the
scene
for
me
before
the
presentation
actually
is
up.
I
have
one
question,
because
what
we're
seeing
in
that
space,
especially
web
free
carbon
space,
is
that
there's
like
so
many
things
going
on
like
you
have
so
many
protocols,
and
we
saw
a
lot
of
the
people
here
like
region,
network
klima,
dao,
tukan,
open
forest
protocol
and
they're,
creating
really
great
infrastructure,
and
I
think
it's
really
needed,
but
it
also
makes
this
market
really
really
fragmented.
A
I
think
we've
been
there
before,
especially
in
the
crypto
space
I
mean
in
the
beginning
of
crypto.
There
were
so
many
different
cryptocurrencies,
I
think
in
2015
there
were
already
like,
I
don't
know,
2500
different
cryptocurrencies.
A
It
was
insanely
fragmented
until
coinbase
actually
came
and
coinbase
made
this
market
homogeneous,
brought
it
together
and
make
it
really
to
access-
and
I
think
we're
always
talking
about
so
many
things
we
sorted
in
the
panel,
but
is
it
really
accessible
by
someone
like
who
actually?
Who
who
did
any
kind
of
trade
with
klima
or
nct
on
toucan,
who
ever
interacted
with
with
these
protocols?
A
Okay,
a
couple
of
people,
but
how
many
people
did
actually
hold
only
the
project,
the
underlying
project,
not
not
something
which
is
like
bringing
it
together?
How
many
people
actually
hold
the
project
itself?
A
It's
no
one,
but
the
actual
target
group
of
carbon
markets
corporates
they
they
would
never
ever-
and
this
is
my
thesis-
touch
a
basket
of
a
lot
of
credits,
because
then
they
would
have
to
make
risk
assessment
audits
of
all
the
projects
underlying
this
basket.
So
it's
almost
impossible
to
buy
the
product
which
we
plan
to
bring
to
the
carbon
president
to
the
target
group
of
carbon
markets.
A
So
this
whole
market
is
like
so
fragmented
and
it's
still
really
opaque.
Even
though,
like
we,
we
have
lima
down,
we
can
go
into
the
details,
there's
also
nct,
but
no
one
really
knows
what
kind
of
projects
underlying
I
mean.
Probably
0.001
percent
knows
it,
but
the
rest
really
doesn't
know
what
the
projects
actually
are
doing
underneath
it.
So,
in
order
to
get
to
this
next
wave-
and
I
think
we
just
talked
about
nfts
open
c-
did
the
same
for
the
nft
space
there
were
nfts
before,
but
did
how
many
people
actually
owned.
A
Nfts,
I
mean
there
were
crypto
kitties,
a
couple
of
people
owned,
crypto
kitties,
but
how
many
people
actually
like
frequently
bought
new
nfts,
how
many
people
actually
had
analytics
on
nfts
only
open
c
and
openc
and
coinvested?
Both
the
same
thing
made
assets
accessible,
only
open
c,
like
initiated
the
next
wave,
also
especially
in
the
crypto
space
right.
A
So
we
want
to
make
it
as
easy
as
shopping
on
on
amazon
and
we
launched
the
first
platform
and
the
first
first
protocol,
together
with
toucan,
with
all
the
single
projects,
where
you
makes
it
as
easy
as
possible,
like
on
amazon
or
ebay,
to
shop
these
credits,
and
I
think
we
have
to
just
to
close
this
gap
because
we're
talking
and
talking
and
talking
in
our
crypto
bubble.
But
the
target
group
is
still
not
reaching
those
those
credits,
and
if
this
is
one
of
our
biggest
tools
about
fighting
climate
change,
it
will
never
scale.
A
It
will
never
scale,
there's
no
access,
it's
so
still
so
transparent
that
in
transparent,
that's
also
institutional
investors
will
not
go
into
into
it.
So
what
we
did
now
in
the
first
place,
with
tukan
and
doing
it
with
florcam
next
next
month
and
already
and
works
with
ofp
and
region
network.
We
basically
aggregate
all
the
projects
which
are
underlying
in
one
platform
where
you
can
search
you
can
filter.
For
instance,
you
can
say
I
don't
know.
A
I
want
to
have
a
forestation
project
from
2017
and
it
has
a
needs
to
have
a
vera
certification
and
then
it
shows
across
chain
across
registries
all
the
credits
which
are
there
and
then
makes
it
really
easy
to
buy
them,
and
you
need
to
solve
two
things
you
need
to
solve
the
payment
problem,
because
corporates
and
I've
been
at
was
leading
the
blockchain
department
for
instant
young.
A
Before,
like
I
had
my
slide
deck
in
2017,
I
said
like
in
three
years:
every
corporate
will
have
a
wallet,
but
five
years
later,
five
years
later,
we
know
it's,
it's
not
the
case,
so
we
need
to
solve
payment
and
the
wallet
problem.
So
these
are
the
two
things
and
we
did
do
this,
so
you
can
pay
with
credit
card
and
you
can
log
in
with
the
email
address,
with
magic.link
or
thoros
wallet.
Where
automatically
creates
a
wallet
behind
your
your
email
address
and
yeah,
then
you
can
buy
these
assets.
A
You
can
also
get
analytics,
because
what
we
have
what
we
didn't
have
before
as
well
is
like
before
you
really
have
to
think
about
a
deal,
a
corporate
like
it.
It
is
seriously
like
a
truck
deal,
a
corporate
called
a
broker
and
asked
like
hey.
I
need
the
best.
You
have
forestation
credits.
What
do
you
have?
What
is
the
price
point
and
then
they
say
like
well,
let
me
call
my
broker,
then
the
broker
calls
the
broker
and
says,
like
hey,
aren't
you
deforestation
expert?
A
What
do
you
have
and
then
you
say
yeah,
I
have
some
credits
for
you.
I
bought
just
bought
it
from
a
project
in
in
africa.
I
put
40
on
it.
I
hope
it's
fine
and
then-
and
they
said,
like
you
know
it's
great.
I
also
put
40
on
it,
it's
cool
and
then
they
sell
it
to
a
corporate
or
sometimes
even
to
another
platform
which
has
like
a
consulting
deal
with
a
corporate
and
puts
another
20
to
40
percent
on.
A
So
I'm
I'm
located
in
in
south
africa
and
what
we've
seen
like
a
lot
of
projects,
selling
their
credits
for
like
three
dollars
and
in
the
end
they
get
sold
in
europe
for,
like
fifteen
dollars,
a
credit,
so
twelve
dollars
just
lost
to
intermediaries
and
what's
really
important-
and
this
is
possible
with
blockchain,
because
we
have
a
completely
different
data
availability.
A
Suddenly
we
can
run
analytics.
Then,
in
this
whole
market
there
has
been
no
real
analytics
tool,
so
aggregating
all
the
different
protocols
in
in
one
one
platform,
we
also
have
benchmark
prices,
so
instance,
you
put
in
these
filters
for
stations
of
africa
2017,
and
then
it
shows
you
like
what
is
the
benchmark
price
for
these
criterias
across
all
the
registries,
and
this
is
really.
This
is
like
a
real
benefit
to
to
the
corporates,
because
they
don't
have
to
trust
the
drug
dealer.
A
What
is
the
price
at
the
moment
right
and
another
amazing
thing
actually
is-
and
I
only
realized
that,
after
after
a
couple
of
months
actually
like
into
this
project,
we
also
can
use
the
whole
liquidity,
which
is
in
the
market
with
this
basket.
So
I
I'm
not
saying
these
boxes
are
unuseful
they're,
maybe
just
not
the
product
the
corporate
is
buying.
A
A
But
then,
if
this
credit
is
also
in
a
pool,
you
will
also
have
a
price
point
over
there
and
it
always
roots
you
to
the
cheapest
price.
So,
for
instance,
if
someone
lists
this
project
for
let's
say
2.77
on
our
platform
in
the
order
book,
but
in
the
same
time
nct
price
is
244
and
this
project
is
also
in
the
nct
basket.
A
Then
it
will
go
the
way
and
actually
buys
in
the
back
end
an
nct
credit
redeems
it
and
there's
a
10
fee
on
toucan
pool
at
the
moment
and
redeems
it
for
a
single
project.
And
then
you
get
this
credit
for
cheaper
than
is
actually
listed
and
the
beauty
of
this
compared
to
web3
web
2
is
actually
we
can
use
the
whole
supply
which
is
on
chain
and
in
these
baskets
and
the
beauty
to
web3
is
it's
it's
seriously
crazy
because
a
web
2
player
has
to
buy
all
these
credits
they
sell.
A
They
have
a
massive
inventory
risk.
They
have
a
massive
inventory
cost
and
the
supply
in
the
inventory
is
always
really
small,
so
it
maybe
sounds
really
stupid,
but
we
are
already
the
biggest
carbon
marketplace
in
the
whole
world
because
we
don't
have
this
risk
and
these
costs
because
we
can
piggyback
so
to
say
on
the
supply
of
toucan
in
the
next
place
of
flow
carbon,
open
forest
protocol
and
so
on,
big
the
biggest
marketplace.
They
have
like
one
to
two
million
credits
out
there.
A
Only
with
the
two-can
supply
we
already
more
than
20
million
credits
and
as
soon
as
flow
carbon
is
live,
there's
probably
another
15
to
20
million
credits.
This
is
like
insane
advancement
and
it's
way
cheaper,
because
if
you
see
this
project,
this
kind
of
project
could
be
sold
for
like
15
somewhere
and
three
dollars
was
the
actual
price
of
the
project
developer.
I
mean
you
would
rather
go
for
the
3.10.
A
A
We
got
a
lot
of
liquidity,
but
we
also
need
to
account
for
like
single
projects,
all
the
sustainable
development
goals,
co-benefits
like
biodiversity
and
so
on,
going
in,
and
therefore
we
need
an
order
book
exchange
in
order
to
basically
yeah
bring
high
quality
credits
on
on
chain,
because
at
the
moment
there
is
almost
no
high
quality
on
chain-
and
why
is
this
like?
We
talked
to
climb
works
and
all
these
also
technical
and
direct
air
capture
companies.
A
It
is
because
most
of
liquidity
is
currently
going
through
these
pools
and
what
does
pool
actually
do
it's
like
commoditizing
what
you
have
and
it's
like,
basically
cutting
you
off
from
all
the
other
co-benefits
you
have
and
so
on,
and
then
the
other
thing
that's
really
important.
Also,
this
is
more
like
something
I
urge
everyone
to
do
is
like
we
have
to
re-define
the
narrative
around
web
free
carbon
right,
and
I
think
this
is
basically
what
we're
trying
to
have
in
this
tool.
A
You
can
list
single
projects
and
there's
price
exploration
for
single
projects
in
all
the
different
characteristics
and
co-benefits,
and
only
if
we
have
that
then
high
quality
projects
and
all
of
them
climb
works
all
of
them
and
we're
talking
to
them.
They
all
see
the
benefits,
but
there's
no
structure,
no
infrastructure
to
actually
sell
their
credits
for
their
price
points,
with
all
the
characteristics,
and
this
is
what
we've
built
and
we
now
did
it
in
a
soft
launch
and
probably
in
august
we
will
go
completely,
live
and
yeah.
A
Seeing
you
here
as
well,
I
mean
so
far,
there's
a
lot
of
past
credits,
but
of
course,
what
we
also
want
to
do
in
the
future
is
like
aggregate
and
make
it
really
accessible
to
have
future
credits
there
as
well,
because
I
think
this
is
a
is
a
massive
tool
and
to
unlock
a
lot
of
projects
out
there,
so
just
make
it
really
accessible
for
all
the
new
instruments
that
are
coming
to
the
to
the
not
only
carbon
markets.