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A
B
Sure
yeah
thanks
it
global
for
inviting
me
this
is
great.
I'm
really
happy
to
be
on
this
channel
with
mariana
defy
that
I'm
the
founder
of
the
defiant.
Hopefully
you
all
subscribed
to
the
newsletter,
I'm
watching
the
youtube,
but
the
defiant
is
a
content
platform
focusing
on
decentralized
finance
and
I'm
also
the
author
of
the
infinite
machine.
The
first
book
on
the
history
of
ethereum.
C
Yeah
yeah
I'm
d5
dad.
I
have
been
in
ethereum
or
crypto
for
about
three
years
and
I
was,
I
think,
one
of
the
you
know
earliest
people
to
get
on
board
with
defy
just
trying
out
applications
back
in
2019,
and
I
have
since
then
been
really
fortunate.
I
got
to
work
for
a
few
years
at
consensus,
working
on
the
ethereal
summit.
I
now
work
on
the
zapper
core
team.
I've
been
with
them
for
almost
a
year.
I
actually,
coincidentally,
am
an
advisor
to
the
defiant,
so
I've
been
really
lucky.
C
I
met
cami
right
right
around
the
time
she
was
launching
the
defiant
and
I
write
weekly
posts
in
the
defiant
and
then
I
guess,
aside
from
that,
I
host
a
a
weekly
live
stream,
now
called
zapper
tv,
which
happens
an
hour
from
now.
If
you
want
to
join
us
after
this,
and
also
I'm
an
active
angel
investor
in
the
d5
community.
So
thanks
for
having
me
too
really
grateful
to
be
here,
and
especially
next
to
two
of
my
favorite
people
here
in
the
world
same.
A
Here
well
quickly
about
me,
I
been
in
the
space
for
a
while.
I
was
at
maker
for
four
years
ended
up
leading
the
the
smart
contracts
team.
I
love
defy.
I've
used
it
ever
since
its
inception.
I
like
to
think
that
that
I
was
one
of
the
people
who
was
there,
for
you,
know
the
birth
of
of
this
whole
movement.
So
when
we
think
what's
possible
with
defy
I,
I
love
this
topic
because
first
off,
I
think
almost
anything
is
possible.
A
B
So
there's
like
by
reporting
this
story,
I'm
getting
just
like
these
really
interesting
anecdotes
from
just
users
in
the
space
all
over
the
world
who,
just
by
you
know
interacting
with
these
protocols,
are,
are
getting
rewarded
with
with
with
tokens,
and-
and
you
know
it's
it's
really
surprising.
I've
had
this
experience
myself.
I
think
we've
all
had
of
like
oh,
like
this
protocol
that
I
use
every
day
now
has
an
airdrop
like,
let's
like
I'll,
go,
claim
my
tokens
and
then
like
suddenly
realizing.
B
Okay
like
this
is
an
actual
like
like
decent
amount
of
money,
and
I
I
think
this
I
mean,
besides
kind
of
the
fact
that
it's
cool
to
get
like
free
money.
I
think
what's
important
about
this
concept.
Is
that
like
we're
going
into
a
new
paradigm
of
what
the
internet
is
is
like
and
how
people
are
interacting
with
internet
applications
and
how
finance
is
really
part
of
the
internet
now
and
how
people
by
using
applications,
are
also
becoming
owners
so
like
we,
as
as
users,
get
rewarded
with
application
tokens?
B
And
then
then
these
tokens
give
us
power
to
actually
govern
and
and
make
decisions
on
the
very
protocols
that
we're
using.
So
I
think,
that's
kind
of
what's
so
interesting
about
this.
This
concept,
besides
kind
of
like
getting
free
money
which
you
know,
is
fun
and
in
some
cases,
actually
life
changing
so
yeah.
It's
it's
really.
Nice
story.
A
Do
you
find
that,
in
your
case
you
know
working
at
zapper,
which
is
kind
of
you
know
like
they
say,
reddit
is
the
front
page
of
the
internet.
I
like
to
think
that
zapper
is
the
the
front
page
of
d5
right,
because
so
many
people
like
myself
first
website
they
open
up
in
the
morning
and
you
have
to
integrate
so
many
of
these
protocols,
so
you
probably
get
to
work
with
them
also
early
on
what
has
been
your
experience.
C
Yeah
yeah
we
so
we
get
a
fire
hose
of
both
new
and
advanced
users
on
zapper
and
in
case
anyone's
new
to
this
go
to
zapper.phi
it's
a
place
where
you
can
track
your
entire
d5
portfolio.
So
if
you've
got
one
or
many
wallets,
you
can
see
it
all
in
one
place.
So
the
most
important
thing
of
knowing
where
your
money
is
is
checked
off.
C
But
then
we
provide
you
with
all
the
other
sorts
of
tools
to
on-ramp
and
to
defy
like
there's
an
exchange,
there's
the
ability
to
invest
in
liquidity,
pools
and
there's
the
ability
to
get
into
farming
opportunities.
So
I
mean
I
so
I
I
feel
very
lucky.
I
actually
just
got
off
a
zapper
community
call
today
and
you
know
we'll
have
people
that
will
have
users
that
want
to
talk
to
us
about
the
newest,
most
advanced
farms,
but
we
also
have
people
who
are
like
how
do
I
set
up
a
meta
mask?
C
This
is
insane.
I
can
do
this
with
my
money.
This
is
the
internet.
Coming
for
my
money.
I
finally
have
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
anything.
I
want
do
what
I
want
when
I
want.
The
only
limitation
at
this
moment,
especially
on
ethereum,
is
just
can
I
afford
to
transact,
and
that
is
a
radical
radical
concept.
I
mean
the
ability
to
to
do
whatever
I
want
with
my
digitally
scarce
money
anywhere
in
the
world,
and
so
you
know
I
I
think
that
you
know
going
back
to
like
our
original
topic.
C
I
guess
like
what's
possible
with
defy.
You
know,
like
you
guys
said
it's
anything,
but
what
what
is
so
radical
about
the
whole
d5
movement
is
that
it's
about
people
learning
what
they
could
have
done
with
their
fiat
money.
In
most
cases,
many
of
us
did
not
grow
up
with
a
wealth
manager,
or
you
know
someone
in
the
bank
that
wanted
to
help
us
grow
our
money.
C
That's
why
really
rich
people
are
getting
on
board
with
defy,
but
that's
also
why
people
who
are
not
super
rich
are
also
really
interested
in
defy,
and
you
know,
I
think
I
think
like
as
long
as
we
keep
our
our
eye
on
the
ball
with
educating
more
like
that's
why
the
three
of
us
are
here.
I
think
we
all
believe
in
that.
More
than
anything
the
defiant
has.
What
do
you
have?
Like?
Thirty
thousand
forty
thousand
subscribers
now
cammy.
C
So
you
have
all
these
subscribers,
you
put
out
a
tremendous
amount
of
free
content.
Me
and
mariano
have
done
the
same
things
through
different
channels.
The
goal
right
now
is
to
educate
as
many
people
as
possible
so
that
we
don't
repeat
the
mistakes
of
traditional
finance
that
that's
the
that's.
The
greatest
threat
to
our
success
in
the
future
is
just
not
helping
enough.
People
learn
how
this
stuff
works.
A
B
B
So
this
is
a
story
that
kind
of
goes
into
how
this
game
axi
infinity
is
allowing
people
to
earn
additional
income
in
some
cases
substantially
enough
that
it
becomes
their
primary
source
of
income
and
it's.
It
seems
like
it's,
this
very
kind
of
cute
game
where
you
collect
these
characters
and
and
like
have
them
kind
of
play
against
each
other
and
like
go
to
like
battles
against
each
other
and
by
participating.
B
You
earn
these
these
nfts
these
tokens
and,
like
you
know,
everything
in
web3
players
of
xc
infinity
actually
own
these.
These
tokens,
it's
not
like
actually
infinity
the
game
that
that
owns
these
nfts,
but,
like
the
players,
have
non-custodial
wallets
they're
earning
these
nfcs
and
they
can
sell
them
in
in
an
exchange
to
make
actual
cash.
B
So,
and,
and
people
in
in
emerging
economies
are
taking
advantage
of
this
because
because
something
that
maybe
might
not
be
very
substantial
for
people
living
in
in
new
york,
where
really
you
know,
you
need
like
100
bucks
to
cross
the
street
for
someone
in
an
emerging
economy.
Like
you
know,
a
couple
hundred
bucks
like
really
does
make
a
difference.
So
I
think
yeah.
You
know
it's.
B
It's
not
just
a
game
because
it
really
kind
of
starts
to
teach
you
how
to
interact
with
this
new
world,
where
you
are
actually
an
owner
kind
of
and
you're
in
control.
So
the
concept
of
like
having
a
non-custodial
wallet
having
to
be
responsible
for
your
private
keys,
actually
owning
the
assets
that
you
are
in
this
case,
playing
with
like
these
nft
characters,
you
actually
own
them
and
can
just
exchange
them.
B
But
now
we
have
this
new
wave
of
users
who
are
coming
to
crypto
because
oh,
like
they're,
they're,
playing
a
fun
game
and
like
with
this
new
kind
of
wave
of
nfts,
is
oh
because,
like
they're
creators
who
who
want
to
monetize
their
their
art
so
yeah,
I'm
I'm
really
excited
to
to
see
to
see
kind
of
blockchain
games
as
as
gateways
to
d5
and
and
web
3.
As
like
yeah
people
kind
of
learn
how
to
interact
with
this
new
paradigm.
C
Cami
I
mean
you
hit
on
a
point
around.
There
is
an
innovation,
that's
happened
in
d5
and
that
one
of
the
many
innovations
is
liquidity,
mining
or
yield
farming.
Whatever
you
want
to
call
it
because
in
the
traditional
world
an
entrepreneur
goes
out
and
she
or
he
raises
money
from
investors,
and
then
they
use
that
money
in
marketing
and
sales
product
development,
but
the
whole
goal
is
to
acquire
customers,
so
they're,
basically
burning
through
investor
money
in
an
exchange
what
those
investors
have
ownership
in
the
company,
they
believe
in
some
sort
of
upside.
C
I
don't
doubt
that
venture
capitalists
work
really
hard,
but
I
I
I
can
attest
just
for
the
short
time
I've
been
in
the
world
of
investing
through
defy.
I
am
amazed
at
just
how
we
just
recycle
through
the
same
investors
over
and
over
again.
So
what
dfi
did
is
it
flips
it
on
its
head
and
it
says
screw
that
you,
you
don't
have
to
raise
money
through
the
traditional
routes
you
can
just
launch,
let's
say
with
a
team
of
five
people
or
something
or
even
one.
C
C
And
so
that's
what's
radical
about
liquidity
mining
is
now
we've
cut
out
all
of
this,
this,
this
inefficiency
that
happens
and
now
we
can
reward
users,
and
that's
that's
what
earlier
cami
you
were
mentioning
like
you
and
I
and
and
mariano
we've
all
been
blown
away
by
there
are
applications
that
I
just
I
used,
because
I
thought
they
were
cool
and
I
talked
about
them
because
I
thought
that
others
should
learn
about
them.
The
fact
that
we've
gotten
air
drops
it's
brilliant
because
we
were
already
aligned
with
that
company.
C
C
I
donated
probably
a
thousand
dollars
over
two
years
to
maybe
500
projects,
probably
a
a
dollar
one
die
to
every
single
one
of
them.
I
mean
the
airdrop
that
I
got
was.
You
know
a
surprisingly
significant
amount
of
money,
but
I'm
still
going
to
remain
long
and
part
of
it,
because
I
believe
in
get
coin,
and
I
want
to
participate
in
their
governance,
and
I
want
I
want
to
see
through
the
future
of
that
protocol.
So
yeah
I
mean
I
I
just
you
know.
A
A
It's
like
a
thank
you
and
also
probably
because
I'm
I'm
imagining
you
know
a
virtual
shareholder
meeting
right
between.
I
don't
know
companies
in
the
spf,
500
and
d5
projects.
I
would
imagine
the
token
holders
for
the
d5
projects
to
be
among
the
most
diverse
crowd
ever
right
from
pretty
much
every
single
country
in
the
world
that
has
internet
access
and
all
of
them
eventually
having
a
voice
and
a
vote
in
the
future
of
these
projects
which
to
me
are
gonna,
become
you
know
the
next.
C
One
one
thing:
we
it's
probably
too
expansive
to
talk
about
here,
but
when
you
go
and
you
think
about
what's
possible
with
defy,
I
actually
think
that
defy
in
general
will
be
able
to
dissolve
our
sense
of
what
is
a
country
or
what's
a
nation
state
and
and
really
like,
unite
more
people
because,
like
I
can
tell
you
right
now,
like
I'm,
not
anti-american,
but
if
you
said,
where
is
your
greatest
loyalty?
My
greatest
loyalty
is
to
the
ethereum
community.
Why?
Because
I
have
more
in
common
with
them.
C
I
don't
know
where
most
of
a
lot
of
my
friends
that
I've
made
through
the
community,
I
I
often
don't
even
know
where
they
are
in
the
world.
You
know
I
come
to
find
out.
Oh
you're
in
malaysia,
oh
oh
cool!
I
had
no
idea,
but
there's
so
much
in
common
there,
because
we're
living
in
this
digital
world
that
you
know
this,
this
still
sort
of,
is
that
it's
that
mirror.
C
That
reflects
what
is
like
we're
simulating
what
would
be
a
panel
in
a
physical
conference,
but,
like
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
the
default.
You
know,
I
think,
we're
all
going
to
live
in
a
world.
That's
remote,
first
and
we're
going
to
thrive
in
virtual
reality,
like
the
defiant
has
a
vr
headquarters
now,
and
that
is
that's
the
standard.
So
if,
if
the
world
is
becoming
more
and
more
default
digital,
then
we
need
a
default
digital
money.
C
We
need
a
default
digital
finance
and
that's
why
this
this
is
the
future
like
we're
not
going
back.
There's
no
one
today,
who's,
writing
letters
and
is
like
oh
yeah.
You
know
email
it
just
it
just
isn't.
For
me.
I
decided
I
I
like
I'm,
I'm
a
us
male
maximalist.
You
know
it's
just
nothing's
ever
been
better,
you
know
it's!
It's
me
and
my
friends
we
meet
up
at
us
male
maximalist
meetups
and
we
just
talk
about
how
great
the
u.s
postal
service
is.
C
B
I
love
that
that's
hilarious
yeah.
I
think
I
think
you're
kind
of
it's.
It's
yeah
on
point
there
on
like
what's
what's
possible
in
d5,
it's
this
just
global
network
like
global
financial
system,
that's
really
providing
access
to
financial
services
for
the
first
time
to
to
just
you
know,
people
anywhere
who
like
whoever
they
are
like
all
you
need,
is
an
internet
connection
and
an
ethereum
wallet.
So
I
think
that's
pretty
unprecedented.
B
You
know,
I
I
think
it's
it
starts
with
that,
and
then
you
can
kind
of
continue
building
off
that,
but
like
for
anyone,
who's
just
like
getting
into
defy
and
like
thinking
like
is
this
for
me,
is
this
like
this
is
like
really
weird
like
what
are
all
these
like
cartoon
avatars
talking
about,
but
I
think
like
it's
just
like
you
know
it's
financial
access
for
everyone,
that's
basically
what
it
is
like
you
need
to
like.
First,
like
get
over
that
first
hurdle
of
like
using
metamask
approving
transactions.
B
A
But
you
know
one
thing
that
broke
my
heart
last
year
was
I'm
very
active
as
you
are
with
you
know
the
latin
american
community
and
starting
to
see
people
getting
priced
out
of
you
know
ethereum,
mainnet
and
and
d5,
because
the
fees
started
becoming
so
huge
astronomical
and
but
it
turned
out
that
I'm
not
gonna
say
that
it's
a
good
thing,
but
it
did.
You
know,
prompt
the
community
overall
to
rethink
and
you
know,
roadmaps
and
come
up
with
scaling
solutions
faster
right
and
today
it's
like
a
different
ecosystem.
A
We
can,
we
can
transact
on
mainnet
through
either
ourselves
or
through.
You
know
compounding
protocols
like
yearn,
but
we
can
do
things
on
on
scaling
solutions
and,
and
that
way
we
bring
all
the
people
who
who
may
have
left
we
bring
them
back
and
when
I
say
d5,
I
mostly
or
exclusively
mean
d5,
but
on
ethereum.
A
A
C
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
maybe
yeah.
If,
if
anyone's
newer
to
the
d5
space
or
to
ethereum,
you
know
don't
be
afraid
to
go,
try
defy
on
polygon,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
actually
also
going
on
on
phantom.
I
recognize
there's
a
lot
that
goes
on
on
bsc,
but
it's
understanding
what
you
said
what's
credibly
neutral,
what's
actually
has
is,
is
more
decentralized
or
what
whatever
your
definition
of
what
is
decentralized
versus?
What
is
not
as
long
as
you
know,
those
risk
parameters,
I
mean
you're
good.
You
know
I
think
like.
C
C
I'm
like
you
know
in
good,
conscious
I
I
I
know
you
can
have
a
lot
more
fun
if
you
get
onto
polygon,
so
you
know
you
go
to
like
zapper.
We
we
opted
to
start
supporting
polygon,
bsc
and
phantom.
All
three
of
these
are,
I
think,
appropriately
called
side
chains.
Despite
some
of
the
ridiculous
conversations
I've
heard
about
that
lately
and
then
you
have
your
true
l2s
like
arbitrum,
that's
launching
very
soon,
you'll
have
optimism.
You'll
have
zk
sync
or
whatever
it's
called
zk
porter
when
it
goes
live.
C
Those
are
truly
like
elevated
trains.
Loop
ring
to
those
are
elevated
trains
on
top
of
ethereum,
where
they
inherit
the
security
and
decentralization
benefits
of
ethereum.
So
anyways
long
story
short
though
I
I
I
would
encourage
anyone
like
don't
be
afraid
to
you,
know,
get
on
zapper.5
bridge
and
move
some
money
over
to
polygon.
C
I
choose
to
keep
a
majority
of
my
assets
on
ethereum,
but
I
think
that's
a
privilege
at
this
point.
I
think
it's
because
I've
been
here
for
a
few
years
and
I
I
think
again,
I'm
very
fortunate
to
be
able
to
do
that
to
make
that
decision,
but
it
was.
It
was
some
dark
days.
You
know
for
for
months
there
we
all
were
looking
at
gas
prices
saying
this
is
this
is
so
insane
like
when
you
get
up
into
200
300
500
go
away
on
a
few
days
that
that's
not
possible
for
any.
C
For
for
many
people,
the
gas
cost
more
than
the
amount
of
money
they
had
to
transact
with.
So
you
know
yeah,
I
guess
that's
that's
my
rant
on
knowing
the
difference
between
defy
and
what
is
something
in
a
spectrum
between
d5
and
centralized
finance,
but
it
mirrors,
it
looks
just
like
defy,
but
you
know
if
you're
on
bsc,
you
know
that
those
those
validators
are
ultimately
they're
either
under
the
control
of
binance
or
they
have
very
tight-knit
relationships,
which
questionably
makes
it
questionable.
Whether
or
not
it's
decentralized
finance.
A
B
Well,
I
I
test
some
projects,
I'm
not
actively
yield
farming.
I
think
you
know
what
I
try
to
bring
with
the
defiant
is
objective
on
unbiased
reporting,
so
I
try
to
stay
away
from
investing
in
in
these
like
any
like
specific
protocol.
I
obviously
do
kind
of
testing
things
out,
because
I
need
to
kind
of
know
what
I'm
writing
about
and
editing,
but
yeah,
I'm
not
like
yeah
actively
investing.
I
guess
in
in
d5.
C
C
Any
any
of
the
defy
apps
that
have
really
stuck
out
to
you,
I'm
talking
actually
to
like
protocols
so
I'll
say
default.
As
I
would
tell
anyone
go
to
zapper.duh
and
you
know:
click
on
the
farm
tab.
You
can
discover
there's
like
600
opportunities
there
and
then
you
can
enter
any
one
of
the
liquidity
pools
on
the
pools
tab.
But
if
you're
not
doing
that,
what
what?
What
do
you
like
cammy.
B
I
recommend
just
trying
unisop,
because
I
think
that's
kind
of
like
the
the
first
thing,
like
the
building
block
that
you
need
to
get
like
from
each
to
like,
whatever
you
want
so
like
just
go
to
unisop
once
you
have
ethan
in
in
your
meta
mask
and
swap
for
uscc
or
dye
or
like
some
stablecoin
and
and
then
I
recommend
also
like
ave
like
getting
interest
on
on
dave
on
on
ave
or
like
I.
I
think
it
really
blows
people's
minds
when
I
explain
yearn
to
them.
B
B
So
I
think,
like
both,
yearn
and
set,
are,
are
really
great
places
to
go
for
someone
who's
just
starting
out
and
just
wants
to
put
their
their
money
to
work
and
not
have
to
do
much
like
they're,
just
like
very
kind
of
you
know,
allow
you
to
have
like
a
very
passive
strategy
and
just
like
start
earning
interest.
That
way.
A
You
know
a
reflection:
kami
has
a
book
on
the
birth
of
ethereum
and
and
a
little
bit
of
defy
called
the
infinite
machine.
She
actually
tells
my
story
of
buying
a
car
with
a
loan
from
maker
with
dye.
That
was
probably
one
of
the
maybe
not
the
first,
but
one
of
the
most
one
of
the
earliest
examples
of
you
know
actually
using
defy
in
the
real
world
and
cami.
Are
you
writing
anything
new
with
the
you
know?
B
There
are
so
many
good
stories
in
d5,
I'm
itching
to
write
a
second
book,
I'm
not
at
the
moment,
but
I'm
I'm
collecting
stories
for
the
the
time
that
I
do.
I
think
I
need
to
kind
of
figure
out
how
to
delegate
more
more
like
defiant
words,
because
right
now,
like
I
wouldn't
have
a
minute
in
the
day
to
write
a
book,
but
once
I
figure
out
how
to
do
that,
then
I'll
get
to
to
writing
the
second
book
which
I
really
like.
I
can't
wait
just
like
the
stories
in
deep
eye
are
insane.
C
No,
just
you
know,
I
I
think
one
of
the
key
takeaways
is
think
about.
What's
in
your
your
wallet,
that's
sitting
there
idle.
You
know
I'll
use
the
most
obvious
example
of
ether,
and
you
know
if
you
can
start
to
find
again
like
the
easiest
way
to
find
opportunities
is
through
an
aggregator
like
zapper,
and
you
can
go
there
under
the
farms
and
search
ether
and
then
start
to
recognize
that
hey,
I
could
take
my
ether
and
be
in
a
curve
pool
with
50
staked
eath
steath
by
lido
and
50
ether.
C
C
Then
you
can
start
to
let
that
money
work
and
I
think
idle
assets
is
one
of
the
best
places
to
start.
I
have
something
I'd
like
more
of
it.
Why
don't
I
put
it
to
work
in
this
thing?
Bt
dubs!
You
can
ensure
a
lot
of
these
things
now
through,
like
a
nexus
mutual,
so
anyways
yeah,
no
just
thanks
so
much
for
having
me,
though
this
this
was
awesome,
always
always
a
pleasure
to
to
talk
with
the
cami
russo
and
the
mariano
conte
and.