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B
Good
to
see
everyone
jin
chen
welcome
back
thanks,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
so
social
discussion.
I
had
a
question
here,
but
full
transparency,
if
you
don't
want
to
answer-
and
you
just
rather
talk
about
anything
else,
go
for
it.
The
context
here,
I
thought
this
was
interesting.
My
son's
really
grown
to
like
the
movie
Aladdin
right
now,
which
is
like
you
haven't
seen
it
it's
about
this
person
who
finds
a
magic
lamp
and
there's
a
genie
and
they
achieve
a
grant
three
wishes
and
kind
of
the
circles
that
come
with
that.
B
So
I
thought
it
would
be
interesting
if
you
want
to
share
if
you,
if,
if
you
found
a
magic
lamp
and
how
to
add
a
genie
who
would
grant
you
three
wishes,
what
would
they
be?
No
additional
wishes
being
the
only
rule
for
me,
good
health
for
everyone,
I
think
especially
right
now.
That
would
be
number
one
number
two
like
unlimited
green
energy.
B
C
No
just
kidding
I,
don't
know
yeah,
that's
a
really
good
question:
I!
That's
not
the
the
type
of
question
that
I
usually
try
to
answer
because
yeah
wishes.
C
But
yeah
I
don't
know.
Frankly,
it's
III
never
thought
about
this
question
so.
D
C
Know
one
thing
maybe
would
be
I
don't
know
being
able
to
play
music
as
long
as
I
can
or
something
like
that,
like
yeah
being
able
to
enjoy
the
things
that
I
enjoy
doing
yeah
and
yeah
frankly,
I,
don't
know
yeah
being
able
to
write
yeah,
I,
think
being
in
good
health.
Is
it's
a
good
wish
in
general,
so
I
would
go
with
that,
and
that
would
be
my
I
yeah
yeah
my
take
on
it
like
stay
in
good
health,
but
it's
not
it's
not
like
it's
it's
a
it's
not
only
a
wish.
D
C
C
B
A
A
The
so
I'd
like
to
travel
quite
a
lot,
but
I
kind
of
feel
guilty
about
the
emissions
and
the
environment,
so
it
would
be
a
way
to
travel
long
distances
quickly,
but
not
through
teleportation
so
and
not
being
able
to
fly
Vicki
well,
I
was
thinking
you
miss
a
lot
when
you
fly
in
you,
don't
see
the
stuff,
that's
on
the
ground
and
you'll
just
kind
of
fly
over
it.
A
quick
speed,
so
I
didn't
want
to
give
myself
the
ability
to
fly
because
I'd
be
I,
probably
use
that
ability
to
get
somewhere
really
fast.
A
So
instead
it's
the
ability
to
travel
quickly.
Overland.
Any
way
you
want
so
so
you'd
still
see
everything
on
the
ground
in
great
detail,
but
you'd
still
be
able
to
get
where
you
want.
Without
using
you
know,
without
the
emissions
the
kind
of
long-haul
travel
has.
So
that
would
be
my
answer,
but
I.
That's
the
only
one,
a
clue
that
I
could
really
think
of.
So
then
you
got
one
wish.
E
E
Guess
and
be
like
yeah
I,
think
it's
being
healthy
in
general.
There
would
be
good
that
gives
me
and
also
like
self
sufficient,
so
that
I
can
like
use
time.
I
have
to
like
do
other
things
for
other
people
like
for
a
family
for
people
around
me,
I
guess,
yeah,
it's
okay,
just
have
the
worldly
things
taken
care
of,
and
then
I
can
do
other
things
yeah,
that's
about
it.
Tension
I.
D
B
B
So
I'm
thanks
everyone
for
sharing
I.
Always
you
know,
I
wanted
to
try
something
very
different
than
what
we
had
in
the
past
and
they.
E
B
Oh
over
two
announcements,
the
one
thing
I
want
to
call
attention
to
is
next
week
we're
on
pipeline
triage
rotation.
I
think
mark
is
out
on
Monday,
so
my
plan
is
to
try
and
cover
on
Monday
as
well
when
I'm,
when
I'm
able
to
hop
on
marks
out
because
of
a
public
holiday.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
point
out
is,
if
you're
looking
into
something
and
you
think
it
may
help
to
record
it
feel
free
to
just
like
start
assume,
meeting
to
your
screen
and
record,
and
we
can
always.
B
We
can
always
upload
to
unfiltered
or
something
like
that,
as
like
a
nice
helper
for
people
who
are
maybe
learning
the
pipeline
triage
rotation,
if
there's
anything
anything,
that's
needed
to
help
make
sure
you're
effective
in
pipeline
triage.
Please
let
me
know-
and
we
can
do
our
but
I'll
do
my
best
to
get
things
lined
up
ahead
of
time.
B
The
next
item
is
related
to
review
apps,
so
I
open
an
async
issue.
I
want
to
try
to
try
this
out
as
something
new
to
see
how
we
can
have
more
frequent
like
discussions.
I
also
think
async
discussions
are
generally
a
lot,
a
lot
higher
quality
than
synchronous
discussions.
Can
you
put
more
thought
into
your
answer?
So
I
opened
an
issue
on
if
we
need
review
apps
for
get
lab
cost
anymore.
Please
review
it
and
comment.
If
you
have
you
have
any
thoughts
or
feedback.
B
Next
item
is
related
to
the
efficiency
improvement
Docs.
So
if
you're
not
aware
of
this-
and
you
haven't
seen
it-
please
review
it.
This
is
where
our
gitlab
comm
efficiency
item
is
being
tracked,
as
well
as
a
number
of
other
important
efficiency
improvements
or
gitlab.
These
initiatives
are
all
really
important
to
help
reduce
our
cost
baseline
for
R&D,
which
is
a
little
bit
higher
than
our
peers.
As
we
look
to
become
a
public
company,
that's
some
of
the
context
behind.
B
Why
there's
a
larger
focus
on
efficiency
right
now
and
then
last
there's
a
lot
of
announcements.
Oh
me,
sorry,
twelve,
nine
nerds
respective
is
this
week,
it's
actually
later
today.
So
there
was
please
review
the
doc
be
familiar
like
and
make
yourself
familiar
with
the
things
in
there.
I'll
be
representing
the
department
in
this
one,
so
I'll
be
focusing
all
the
ones
for
mech
the
one
thing
that
I
observed
as
there's
a
lot
of
great
accomplishments
and
ideas
for
improvement.
B
E
They
are
ready
for
this
yeah,
so
I'm,
not
I,
don't
personally,
I
don't
have
an
experience
with
this
I'm
just
trying
to
see
if
this
is
something
that
can
be
done
and
also
the
examples
they
have
seen
is
usually
done
on
a
static
language.
I
wonder
how
effective
it
could
be
on
code
basically
Ruby
and
rails
and
with
a
lot
of
dynamic
parts
to
it,
just
want
to
know
what
what
do
other
people
think
about
this.
C
Yeah
interesting
I
I,
don't
have
any
experience
with
that,
but
yeah.
That's
I
think
that
this
is
kind
of
ideas
was
suggested
in
the
past,
like
basically
run
only
the
tests
that
are
kind
of
related
to
a
change,
but
it
seems
that
yeah,
like
the
impact
analysis
is
based,
is
actually
based
on
where
the
code
is
used
rather
and
just
what
files
were
changed,
which
is
a
smarter,
so
yeah
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
a
good
idea
that
yeah
we
should
look
into
what
that
entails.
E
B
I
I
feel
like
there's
an
issue
out
there
for
kind
of
the
the
general
thing
that
Remy
was
just
talking
about
that
I
I
can
take
the
ownership
to
try
and
find,
and
we
could
just
use
the
issue
to
continue
some
discussion,
async
and
revisit
it
next
week.
If
we
want
after
people
are
familiar
with
it,
because
yeah
this
was
suggested
in
the
group
call
as
well
as
a
get
lab
feature.
So
if
you
didn't
catch,
the
group
call
recording
last
week
or
catch
it
live.
This
was
something
that
Sid
was
saying
like.
B
B
B
They
were
doing
like
a
merge
into
a
develop
branch
and
then
developed
a
master
kind
of
work
cloak,
but
there
there
was
more
frequent
red
the
equivalent
of
red
masters
where
everyone
would
swarm
a
pipeline
failure
that
didn't
happen
within
the
EMR,
but
did
happen
once
the
EM
art
was
merged
in
the
full
test.
Suite
Israel.
So
one
of
the.
D
B
Okay,
I'll
find
the
issue
and
mention
the
team
for
async
discussion
and
try
to
summarize
the
discussion
we
had
here.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
was
more
related
to
our
site.
B
It
feels
like
the
engineering
productivity
sandbox
is
getting
a
little
large
and
we
already
have
sections
that
are
tied
to
context.
I
was
wondering
what,
if
the
team
feels
there,
should
we
try
and
simplify
this
by
either
moving
sections
to
a
different
dashboard
or
something
else,
and
how
do
you
see
the
engineering
productivity
sandbox
being
used?
It's
almost
like
I
think
the
analogy
I
used
with
someone
else
is:
maybe
charts
start
here
and
then
graduate
to
another
to
another
dashboard
once
we
kind
of
are
able
to
do
that.
B
C
Related,
not
I,
I,
improved
pipelines
dashboard
this
morning,
just
like
just
before
the
car
actually
and
I've
grouped
and
current
charts
into
three
sections
for
now
and
there's
the
master
F,
not
requests
earth
and
shared
Whannell
usage
and
yeah.
So
I've
tried
to
and
I
used,
I
used
the
number
overlay
for
all
the
jobs
to
have
like
current.
E
C
Like
yeah
we're
the
Chartists
like
grouped
or
placed
in
a
meaningful
section,
I
would
say,
and
also
regarding
the
the
fragmentation
in
science.
There's
this
idea
of
topics
and
there's
I
think
I
created
a
quality
topic
in
the
past
and
in
topics
you
can
put
dashboards.
So
that's
a
good
wedge
group
dashboards.
D
D
B
C
Think
maybe
we
could,
when
I
create
a
new
dashboard
for
jobs,
specifically
like
I,
think
the
pipeline
dashboard
is,
is
good
to
have
a
pipeline
queue
of
things
like
during
the
the
just
yeah
at
the
pipeline
level.
I
would
say,
and
then,
if
you
want
to
dig
into
jobs,
you
want
to
actually
like
yeah
look
at
into
what
jobs
should
be
improved.
B
B
E
E
B
Stupendous:
okay,
thank
you
for
the
for
the
work
on
the
pipeline's
dashboard.
I
was
just
looking
at
that,
and
that
looks
really
really
great.
Around
me,
I
know,
I
think
when
we
started
using
size
sense.
The
guide
suggested
like
let's
hold
off
on
the
number
overlay,
because
it
could
be
confusing,
but
I
think
there
it
actually
works
really
well
to
give
just
like
an
acquaintance.
This
is
what
this
metric
value
is.
So
that
looks
those
look
great.
C
Yeah
so
yeah
related
to
the
PG
1011
change
announced
before
yeah
I
I,
so
much
requests
I
will
add
the
link
actually.
C
D
C
I
put
the
issue
but
yeah.
Basically
in
omniverse
with
12.10,
we
will
default
to
PG
11
as
an
opt-out
choice
like
people
will
will
be
able
to
stay
with
PG,
10
or
PT
9,
but
by
default
it
will
just
a
bridge
e
11,
and
then
we
skied
lab
13
PG
Devon
will
become
the
required
version,
so
that
means
people
won't
I,
think
won't
be
able
to
upgrade.
C
If
then,
they
are
not
using
PG
11
and
yes,
so
at
first
I
was
thinking
like
we
should
test
against
party
version
of
PT
based
on
usage
data
of
our
customers,
but
actually
I,
don't
think
that's
useful
because
since
with
13
with
github
13,
the
required
version
would
be
PGA
event.
Then
that
means
I,
think
that
which
we
should
be
able
to
just
test
the
g11
at
this
time
and
the
other
PG
version
will
still
be
tested
for
older
versions
like
into
stable
branches
and
all
of
that
it
bears
some
black
box.
C
D
B
C
B
But
I
think
your
your
proposal
is
good
on
if
we
can
test
PG
9
PG
10
for
stable
back
boards
like
stable
branches,
that
would
be
good
to
look
towards
in
13
and
then
from
a
nightly
master,
merge
request
for
normal
changes.
We
just
focus
on
PG
11
that
already
reduce
our
pipeline
span,
because
we're
not
like
running
jobs
on
multiple
permutations
as
well
across
our
are
scheduled,
I'll,
say.
E
C
C
So
my
my
plan
for
the
for
this
long-term
plan
was
to
actually
like
document
it
like
you
know,
documentation
rather
than
in
an
issue
so
that
it's
also
public
and
for
everyone
else.
It's
documented
good
idea,
yes,
but
we
will
still
need
issues
for
making
the
actual
changes
to
the
pipelines,
like
not
forgetting
so
yeah
I,
think
yeah
I.
C
B
D
E
B
C
C
But
I
think
that's
I
think
that's
still
yeah.
One
last
thing
is:
it
still
leaves
the
question
of.
Should
we
test
PG
11
by
default
instead
of
PG
10
already,
because
the
stock
two
days
ago
we
switched
to
PG
ten
by
default.
In
my
request,
I
mean:
should
we
should
we
like
switch
and
eleven
like
yeah
yeah?
Now,
like
that's
PG
livin
in
my
request,
master
and
Knightley's,
and
returning
master
and
I
kiss
on
me,
I
think
that
would
be
like
in
sync
with
the
newbies
change,
yeah.
B
B
Quick
answer:
I
guess
my
thought.
If
you
like
a
quick
answer,
yeah
like
to
me,
it
makes
sense
to
just
test
PG
11.
If
that's
opt
out
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
are
going
to
be
opting
out
of
like
opting
down
to
a
lowered,
Postgres
version
unless
they're
you
know,
depending
on
their
environment,
their
run
environment
and
how
they
have
their
database
configure.
But
as
long
as
we're
still
testing
net
I
would
say,
maybe
he
didn't
master
nightly
on
PG
10
I'd
leave
that
decision.