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Defining a Metaverse that is Responsible by Design: Building Secure and Private Enterprise-Grade NFT - Bjorn Obermeier, Accenture
Today, many companies are hesitant to engage in the digital asset economy because of a wide range of risks. Building and scaling in the metaverse is dependent in part on the creation of enterprise-grade NFT systems that enable secure, confidential, and resilient transactions. This presentation will examine metaverse use cases, define what it means to build a responsible metaverse by design, and how enterprise-grade NFT platforms could drive mainstream adoption and drive value for businesses and consumers alike.
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A
All
right
welcome
guys,
thanks
that
you
joined
the
session
today,
I'm
glad
to
see
a
lot
of
people
here
that
look
at
responsible,
metaverse
and
that
are
interested
in
this
topic.
I
will
talk
about
some
guiding
principles
about
you
know
responsible
metaverse.
You
know
how
it
pertains
to
tokenization
nfts
and
speak
a
little
bit
about
some.
Some
of
the
elements
to
you
know
evaluate
and
see
on
our
journey
to
the
metaverse,
going
forward
on
the
thinking
that
we
have
at
Accenture.
A
So
I
said
my
name
is
Bjorn
obermeyer
I'm
from
Accenture
Germany
I
think
my
blockchain
journey
started
2014
when
I
was
still
with
Hewlett-Packard.
Somebody
came
to
me
saying:
have
you
heard
about
this
Bitcoin
blockchain
stuff
I
said
well,
not
really
I
looked
into.
It
got
really
intrigued.
Eight
years
later,
I'm
still
here.
So
it's
a
really
interesting
technology
and
I'm
very
fortunate
to
be
with
Accenture
to
drive
blockchain
and
as
it
pertains
to
the
metaverse
going
forward.
What
we
can
do
there
before
going
into
the
topic.
A
A
I
would
like
to
ask
another
question:
will
the
metaverse
be
less
trustworthy
than
the
internet
today?
Those
who
think
it
will
be
less
trustworthy,
raise
your
hands
well,
as
expected.
A
couple.
Maybe
right
and
I
was
interested
to
understand
because
you
know
you
are
here
for
a
reason:
I
mean
you
have
experience
in
the
industry.
You
have
experience
with
blockchain
I
think
on
a
journey
that
probably
most
of
you
have
done
here.
You
solved
so
many
challenges
already.
You
know
on
blockchain
on
one
building
block
for
the
metaverse
right
and
I.
A
A
You
know
connecting
people
together
through
you
know
various
tools
and
channels,
and
in
2010
we
had
the
internet
of
things.
You
know
iot
devices
to
connect
all
stuff
together
to
have.
You
know
more
connected
extended
world
the
extended
digital
world
and
in
the
2000s
now
2020.
Sorry,
we
have
the
internet
of
place
where,
essentially,
we
combine
people
together.
A
You
know
in
a
virtual
and
physical
setting
so
like
what
we
do
right
here.
You're
here
you
know
for
the
same
purpose
as
the
people
online
virtually
and
I
think
these
Virtual
Worlds
have
specific
rules
and
sets
that
we
need
to
go
on
forward,
need
to
appreciate
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
flew
in
here
and
on
your
journey.
Probably
you've
looked
you
know
before
you
went,
you
looked
okay.
What
are
the
entry
rules
into
Ireland?
Do
I
need
a
visa?
What
is
the
currency?
A
Is
there
anything
specific
I
need
to
do
right,
If,
you
flew
in
from
the
US.
Maybe
you
had
to
I.
Don't
know,
do
different
things,
as
you
know,
when
you
flew
in
from
within
the
EU
like
I,
did
and
I
think
it's
it's
that
principle
that
we
see.
You
know
in
many
Virtual
Worlds
and
like
in
physical
worlds,
these
ground
rules
that
we
need
to
all.
You
know
zero
in
and
apply
on.
It's
going
to
be
important
to
unfold
with
a
metaverse
I
think
we
need
to
apply
as
well.
A
A
That
happened,
I
think
these
some
of
the
ground
rules
for
the
virtual
places
as
we
go
and
enter
into
the
metaverse
that
we
need
to
look
at
in
the
other
dimension
of
the
meta
versus
the
internet,
of
of
ownership
right,
digital
assets,
verifiable
credentials-
and
those
are
you
know,
things
that
are
owned
by
people,
organizations
and,
interestingly,
as
well
by
things
right,
and
how
do
we
combine
the
internet
of
place
and
internet
of
ownership?
You
know
as
we
go
towards
the
metaverse
in
a
responsible
way
and
that's
something.
A
A
So
we
have
a
developed,
a
view
on
responsible
metaverse
framework
of
what
we
think
are
good
guiding
principles
and
I
would
like
to
go
through
them
and
I
think
when,
specifically
in
a
meta
risk
and
technology
and
experience
and
humans
all
needs,
you
know,
and
if
you
know
where
it
intertwines,
there
are
some
Dimensions
that
you
want
to
look
at.
You
know
when
it
comes
to
responsibility.
A
So
as
we
as
we
think
about
the
metaverse
and
as
we
think
about
designing
for
a
metaverse
specifically
on
the
technology
side,
it's
like
we
want
to
create
something
trustworthy
that
is
maybe
an
Implement
privacy
by
Design
right.
We
want
to
communicate
as
well
to
the
audience.
Whoever
the
audience
is.
What
are
we
going
to
do
with
their
data
right?
We
want
to
be
transparent
about
that.
A
We
want
to
enable
as
well
employees
to
have
educated
consent
of
what
happened
with
that
data.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
more
and
more
important,
the
more
data
that
there
is
out
the
more
synthetic
data
that
is
out
you
know
to
trusts
and
then
have.
The
means
to
understand
is:
is
this
something
that
can
verify
that
some
information
I
can
use
in
action
as
well?
I
think
we
need
to
collaborate
with
the
various
stakeholders,
as
we
Define
these
systems
being
at
organizations
being
at
employees
being
at
about
citizens.
I.
A
You
know
when
you
scale
these
systems,
not
only
about
systems
that
we
have
already,
but
as
well
as
systems
that
probably
we
have
in
the
future.
You
know
Advanced
networking,
networking,
Edge
Computing
appreciate
that
there
might
be
something
else
coming
coming
in
going
forward.
You
know,
as
we
enter
the
metaverse
there's
so
many
devices
and
things
that
will
play
in
concert,
and
we
want
to
have
this
in
a
in
a
resilient
way
that
we
can
assure
scalability
and
interoperability.
So
we
have
the
right
experience.
A
A
So
it's
going
to
be
interesting
as
well
to
provide
a
lot
of
training
of
what
these
Technologies
can
do
to
the
employers
and
whoever
is
using
that
technology
right,
I
think
the
gentleman
from
a
bank
yesterday
said
there
was
still
a
lot
of
miscommunication
or
Mis
or
or
people
were
not
trained
up
to
understand
what
it
really
is.
I
think
that's
just
proving
the
point
that
still
education
is
king.
A
Probably
the
same
education,
as
somebody
referred
to
yesterday
on
the
energy
consumption
of
Bitcoin
I,
think
we
way
past
that,
but
still
it
pops
up
so
I
think
education
again
on
security,
how
to
use
it.
What
not
to
do
is
is
very
much
important
going
forward
when
designing
a
responsible
matters
system
specifically
for
Enterprise
usage,
then
there's
IPR
protection,
so
intellectual
property
that
we
supposedly
specifically
on
digital
assets,
want
to
retain
I.
Think
we
need
to
empower
employees
to
navigate
all
this
complex,
IPL,
IPR
landscape.
A
It's
going
to
be
very
complicated
to
understand
specific
ownership
relationships,
as
we
you
know,
move
through
the
metaverse
who's
owning
What,
specifically
when,
where
what
which
device
that's
going
to
be
probably
pretty
complex,
and
that's
probably
going
to
require
some
some
lawyers
to
understand-
maybe
the
ins
and
outs
and
jurisdiction,
and
what
not
to
do
and
maybe
they're
still
missing
standards
that
will
have
to
be
developed
but
I
think
it's
imperative
to
understand.
How
do
you
navigate?
A
A
How
do
you
secure
personal
data
biometric
data
Maybe
as
you
go
into
the
metaverse
SEO
avatars
may
represent
you
in
a
biometric
fashion
that
somebody
could
steal
your
Biometrics
all
things
to
probably
think
about
as
you
design
these
worlds,
sustainability
I
think
this
presentation
and
the
principles
would
not
be
complete.
If
we
haven't
spoken
about
sustainability
and
I'm,
not
only
want
to
talk
about
energy
consumption
Bitcoin-
and
you
know
all
that
I
think
we
understand
I'm
pretty
much
looking
forward
to
what's
happening
on
Thursday
with
the
merge,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
platforms.
A
You
know
going
into
the
right
direction
and
reducing
energy
consumption.
When
I
speak
about
sustainability
in
this
concept,
I
think
we
can
Leverage
The
Innovation
that
we
see
from
other
Technologies
in
the
meters.
You
know
think
about
the
XR
world
and
the
you
know,
immersive
learning,
and
how
you
can
apply
all
these
Innovations
and
Technologies
to
reduce
our
energy
energy
consumption
and
carbon
footprint
pipe.
A
So
we
want
to
center
around
the
employees
or
people's
well-being
when
we
create
these
worlds
right
in
a
world
where
you
can
be
anonymous,
dominance
or
Known,
Unknown
I
think
sometimes
it's
a
platform
for
being
bullied.
So
we
want
to
design
environments
where
people
feel
safe
trusted
where
people
can
Thrive
personally
and
professionally
and
have
the
right
tools
and
the
right
information,
so
they
can
actually
use
them.
A
Nobody
probably
will
use
them
a
system
where
you
can
trust
what
you
see
where
people
are
offensive,
because
there
is
no
means
and
there's
no
protection
and
guardrails
in
place
that
that
prohibits.
You
know
bad
behavior
on
a
flip
set.
Maybe
it's
an
it
might
make
sense
to
incentivize
good
behavior.
Once
you
enter
these
worlds
to
set
a
you
know,
president
still
so
people
follow.
A
You
know
that
that
good
behavior
and
example,
and
then
I-
think
inclusion,
diversity
and
accessibility
is
very
important
as
well.
So
we
want
to
employ
design
methodologies
that
caters,
for
you
know,
inclusion
that
you
can
access
and
be
authentically
yourself
when
you
enter
a
metaverse
and
I.
Think
in
a
digital
form
to
be
authentic
requires
a
lot
of
technology
to
make
that
happen.
A
But
it's
I
think
a
very
important
Point
as
well
is
the
collaboration
goes
forwards
and,
as
we
collaborate
way
more
going
forward,
so
I
think
these
are
our
thinking
about
the
eight
core
principles
of
how
to
build
a
sustainable
metaverse
and
what
I
found
interesting
as
well
throughout
the
week
when
you
listen
to
the
conversations
here
during
hyperledger,
just
the
language
alone,
I've
heard
so
many
times.
Are
you
somebody
from
the
private
world
or
from
the
Enterprise
world?
A
So
there's
already
a
couple
of
Worlds
right
and
and
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
evidence
that
you
know
we
we
all
will
move
into
the
metaverse
and
again
I
think
this
group
is
really
geared
up
to
change
it
or
build
it
in
a
way
that
is
really
responsible
and
I've
heard
as
well.
There's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
mentions
about
interoperability.
A
How
do
you
connect
different
ledgers?
How
do
you,
you
know,
keep
things
on
one
network
and
you
know
transport
it
to
another?
How
do
you
combine
that
and
I
think
this
alone
is
evidence
for
enough
that
you
know.
All
of
us
here
will
be.
You
know,
play
a
crucial
role
in
The,
Meta
version.
Hence
I
think
responsibility.
A
So
I
wanted
to
use
an
example
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
so
I
wanted
to
talk
about
tokenization
right
now.
I
guess
we're
tokenizing
everything
right,
there's
so
many
things
that
are
tokenized
here
and
there
and
essentially
tokenization
is
the
is
the
art
of
of
representing
an
asset
in
a
digital
form,
most
of
the
times
on
The
Ledger
in
form
of
a
token
right,
and
what
are
the
the
core
elements
of
of
tokenization?
A
So
there's
the
digital
representation
then
just
talk
about
it.
Then
it's
acts
as
a
better
instrument,
so
meaning
that
the
owner
of
the
token,
which
is
marked
in
that
token,
controls
the
ownership
and
can
transfer
the
token
where
they
want
it
to
be
the
nursing,
authoritative
source
of
truth,
because
you
can
kind
of
backtrack
and
understand
the
ownership
on
The
Ledger,
smart
contract,
which
is
very
very
important
to
understand.
A
If
somebody
claims
something
to
verify
that
claim,
and
then
there
is
the
programmability
so
meaning
that
you
can
apply
business
code
and
business
rules
into
into
that
token.
We
see
this
all
all
across
the
boards
and
we
hear
terms
of
right
now.
Nfts
right,
I
think
that's
really
hot,
currently
I
think
as
well.
We
need
to
differentiate.
A
It's
just
two
classes
and
I
think
it
might
make
sense
if
you
just
talked
about
I
referred
to,
but
as
token
economies
and
understand
what
we
want
to
do
with
that
token,
and
what
are
the
the
properties
and
possibilities?
It
might
be
a
fungible
token.
It
might
be
a
non-fungible
token
I.
Think
it's
a
it's
a
nuanced
discussion,
sometimes
of
what
makes
sense
of
what
doesn't
make
sense,
but
I
think
I
just
want
to
use
that
example.
How
can
we?
How
can
we
use
these
core
principles
to
build
Enterprise
systems?
A
If
nft
is
an
answer?
I'm
not
saying
nft
is
the
answer
right,
but
how
can
we
use
these
core
principles
to
make
sure
if
we
use
an
nft
that
it
is
trustworthy
there
is
privacy
versus
anonymity.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
trade-offs
that
we
maybe
want
to
look
at,
but
you
want
to
look
them
at
them
from
the
start.
A
What
are
the
client
expectations
that
we
do
see
in
token
economies
and
they
may
apply
for
nfts
and
fungible
tokens?
Essentially,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
value
in
there.
You
know
to
develop
completely
new
offerings
new
products,
new
Services,
New,
Partnerships
stuff
that
you
couldn't
do
before
that
you
may
be
able
to
do
now.
A
You
can
create
new
forms
of
value,
so
there's
there's
some
social
capital
in
entertainment,
I
think
that's
very,
very
big.
Right
now
in
sports,
I
think
NBA
top
shots
is
probably
the
example
of
using
you
know,
nfts
for
customer
and
fan
interaction,
and
you
know
going
completely
new
forms
but
yeah.
It's
interesting
IP
access
to
information
controlling
who
sees
what,
when
how
especially
when
you
have
content
creators,
you
can
people,
you
know,
get
the
content
created,
but
share
that
content
and
you
know
get
been
a
new.
A
You
know
monetary
system
in
place
or
to
to
get
the
benefits
later,
as
you
sent
them,
sent
them
around
and
you
can
embed
like
you
know
the
rights
to
view
own
send
receive
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
right,
rights
and
obligations
that
you
can
embed.
You
can
improve
customer
relationships,
as
said,
like
you
know,
with
MBA
you
have
Direct
Customer
interaction
and
engagement
things
you
you
haven't
had
before
and
it
drives
long-term
value
as
well.
A
So
what
I
would
like
to
Maybe
ask
or
or
reflect
about,
is
I
thought
a
lot
about.
You
know
our
nfts
good.
Do
we
need
nfts?
This
is
the
best
I
could
come
up
with.
You
might
have
seen
in
my
initial
slides,
I
was
doing
solutioning
and
I.T
architecture.
My
default
answer
is,
it
depends
it's
probably
when
we
talk
about
nfts
or
token
economies,
I
think
it's
a
yes,
no,
maybe
question
I
think
it
really
depends
on
what
is
it
that
we
want
to
do?
A
A
A
So,
as
guidance
I
think
those
are
some
of
the
elements
when,
when
customers
are
asking
us,
hey,
I
want
to
have
an
nft.
When
we
see
you
know
others,
how
can
I
build
an
Enterprise
Marketplace?
How
can
I
build
primary
secondary,
whatever
there's
a
lot
of
questions
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
guidance
that
can
be
provided.
A
Some
of
the
things
are
probably
not
new
for
you
guys
here,
because
there
are
questions
that
are,
you
know,
probably
in
your
day-to-day
business,
but
still
think
about
the
security
implications
of
of
the
decentralized
platforms
that
power,
that
is,
the
underpinning
technology
layer
of
of
nfts,
think
about
governed
and
less
governed
platforms.
I
think
that's
very
important,
going
forward
to
be
cognizant
of
what's
the
governance
level
of
the
underlying
DLT
blockchain
platform,
and
is
this
something
that
fits
and
and
fits
my
needs,
or
is
it
defeating?
A
The
purpose
so
be
very
mindful
of
of
that
difference
in
consensus
mechanisms?
Yeah?
If
you
have
options,
you
could
choose
I,
think
identity.
A
very
broad
topic,
I
think
we
cannot
go
in
detail,
but
legal
identity.
How
do
you
manage
verifiable
credentials?
How
you
store
them,
who
is
actually
a
testing
that
a
verifiable
credential
is
what
it
or
that
the
identity
is
actually
saying
you?
Are
you
and
who's
doing
that?
How
do
you
manage
that?
How
you
can?
How
can
you
someone
else?
A
Let
know
that
is
you
there's
tools
out
there,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
projects,
there's
a
lot
of
focus.
I
think
we
heard
it
this
morning
from
the
identity,
woman
and
from
others.
The
EU
has
a
lot
of
stuff
right
now.
A
lot
of
tenders
work
is
in
progress,
but
I
think
to
CL
in
the
internet
of
ownership
and
with
fantastic
data
that
that
is,
there
I
think
understanding
what
what
data
you
can
trust,
what
is
integer
and
and
what
is
actionable
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be.
A
You
know
Paramount
under
or
requires
a
lot
of
understanding,
so
you
can
actually
use
that
data
and
it's
going
to
be
only
more
and
more
and
more
data
privacy,
I
think
there's
a
there's
a
trade-off.
You
know
looking
at
you
know:
privacy
versus
anonymity,
episode,
anonymity,
depending
on
the
use
case.
You
may
want
to
have
an
answer
on
that
and
depending
on
what
industry
you're
in,
maybe
you
have
requirements
that
are
against
or
sorry
that
doesn't
do
not
allow.
You
know
decent
levels
of
privacy,
because
you
need
to
report.
A
A
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
need
in
order
to
have
this
persistent
experience
to
move
between
and
move
safely
between,
these
Virtual
Worlds
custody
will
have
different
levels.
That
will
be.
That
will
be
a
need
for
institutional
custody.
There
will
be
maybe
self-custody
so
there's
a
lot
of
options
out
there
and
I
think
it's
a
very
interesting
point
to
that
needs
to
be
addressed
early
and
needs
to
receive
the
right
attention.
A
Social
engineering
attacks.
I
think
you
know
everything
around
that
people
trying
to
steal.
You
know
your
passphrase,
your
wallet
I
think
that's
traditional
security
concerns
that
you
probably
can
solve
with
education,
but
still
I.
Guess
you
see
this
every
every
day
in
the
news,
people's
wallets
got
hacked
leaked
whatever,
so
the
rights
level
of
security
for
these
wallets
might
be
opportune.
A
Insurance
of
digital
assets,
I
think
that's
an
interesting
point.
How
do
you
ensure
you
know
something
gets
stolen
if
you
do
it,
maybe
in
a
less
governed
Network
who
would
you
actually?
Sue
is
an
interesting
question?
Maybe
you
know
that
requires
some
lawyers
to
talk
through
of
you
know,
what's
possible,
what's
not
possible,
but
as
we
enter
all
these,
you
know
multiple
worlds
and
dimensions.
I
think
you
have
to
understand.
Where
could
your
digital
assets
travel?
Who
do
you
do
business
with
who's?
Your
stakeholders?
Can
you
press
charges
to
someone
in
case?
A
Something
happens.
I
think
that's
that's
an
interesting
dimension.
Digital
identity,
I
think
I
touched
on
this
already.
How
do
you
prove
someone
is
who
he
says
he
is.
How
do
you
prevent
identity
theft
that
may
go
back
to
the
institutional
custody?
Even
things
like?
How
can
you
make
sure
you
can
share
identities
in
case
you
need
that?
How
can
you
back
up
what
happens
if
you
lose
your
phone
right?
A
How
can
you
make
sure
you
get
your
stuff
back,
not
easy?
How
can
you
share
a
credential
with
your
wife,
for
instance?
In
case
you
want
it
that
may
be
hard
as
well,
depending
on
on
the
technology
used
and
I.
Think
I
touched
on
on
the
intellectual
property
right,
private
piracy,
plagiatism
the
brand
of
digital
assets,
and
what
contains
the
infringement
I
mean
copying
a
JPEG
or
copying
something
digital.
Nothing
prevents
you
from
doing
that.
A
So
somebody
said:
I
have
an
nft
I
own,
the
nft
there's
digital
art
in
there.
Nobody
can
copy
it.
Well,
everybody
can
copy
it
it's
easier
than
ever
before,
just
that
ownership,
that
you
can
prove
that
or
claim
that
you
own
this.
That
specific,
you
know
private
key.
Essentially
the
enforcement
of
smart
contracts.
I
think
that
some
oldie
but
Goldie,
should
they
execute
business
logic
or
not.
Should
they
only
facilitate
business
logic?
A
Should
there
be
a
safeguard
of
whatever
you
wanted
to
do
and
I
think
it
will
you
need
to
be
cognizant
of
the
new
levels
of
fraud
that
may
happen
going
forward,
so
you
got
to
know
your
customer
know
your
transactions
I
think
it's
an
interesting
one
to
understand
what
happens
to
have
the
means
of
investigating
actually
to
do
analysis
and
maybe
as
well.
You
might
need
to
do
recourse
which,
depending
on
the
platform
you
may
have
or
may
not
have,
and
then
what
I
think
personally
is
really
interesting
with
the
advancements
in
deep
fakes.
A
How
do
you
trust
an
interaction
in
a
matter
of
us?
You
know
when
you
do
have
your
digital
representation,
deep,
deep
fakes
got
so
good.
Sometimes
it's
really
hard
to
tell.
How
do
you
navigate?
What
are
your
sources
of
trust?
Is
it
a
verifiable
credential?
Is
it
an
attested
identity
if
somebody's,
if
an
avatar
is
giving
you
information,
can
you
trust
it
or
not,
and
how
does
it
as
well
pertain
to
fakeness
right?
A
If
you
need
that,
so
there's
a
couple
of
considerations,
probably
that
you
want
to
look
at
and
actually
I
wanted
to
close
up
with
some
thoughtful
questions,
maybe
on
you
know
some
trust
and
ethical
trade-offs.
So
you
know:
what's
your
answer
on
the
organization?
How
will
you
meet
the
expectations
about
data
privacy
and
security
as
well,
as
you
know,
deriving
the
appropriate
business
value
right?
So
what
is
the
trade
of?
What
is
your
answer?
A
How
would
you
design
a
responsible
data
and
tokenization
strategy
that
balances
again
privacy
and
security
needs
and
as
well?
How
do
you
robustly
authenticate
digital
identity,
while,
preserving
probably
the
ease
and
use
of
access
I,
cannot
provide
answers
to
these
questions
for
everyone
here,
I
think
everybody
needs
to
think
about
themselves.
You
know
how
your
organization
is
doing
it,
but
I
would
like
just
to
you
know,
keep
that
in
mind
as
you
as
you
think,
about
this
session.
As
you
go
out
and
I
think
we
have
five
minutes
for
questions
and
answers.
B
Actually,
the
creative
capabilities
that
allows
this
time
I
think,
if
you
think
of
this
as
data
treatment
this
morning
right,
is
this
blockchain,
being
this
system
of
record
right
or
shared
data
set
of
logic,
and
that's
being
the
new
system
really
broadly
saying
the
next
iteration
of
digital
right,
the
more
immersive
experience
around
digital
and
whether
it's
2D
or
3D
or
anything,
we've
got
Investments
across
the
board,
money,
identity,
supply
chain
assets
and
tokens,
immersive
work
and
immersive
shopping
for
their
programs.
So,
yes,
and.
C
B
C
B
C
B
C
C
By
Microsoft
right,
but
they
can't
wear
the
skin,
they
bought
on
their
XBox
anymore
right
and
so
that
identity,
even
within
just
the
walls
of
Microsoft,
is
really
hard
challenge
for
them
to
solve.
And
so
you
know
what
we
you
know
try
to
do
is
get
value
from
the
technology
where
it
is
today,
but
then
for
these
standards
for
the
portability.
C
You
know
for
these
solutions
that
you
know
just
a
Microsoft
could
benefit
from,
but
then
you
look
outside
of
the
you
know
the
walls
of
that
right
and
you
can
sort
of
see
how
Investments
the
capabilities
that
hyperledger
has
built
and
continues
to
build.
This
will
be
things
can
be
so
essential
to
bringing
you
know,
bringing
us
forward
to
kind
of
enable
the
next
set
of
experiences
for
work,
but
also
for
consumers.
D
B
D
B
C
A
C
C
Your
own
data
make
decisions,
decisions
together,
you
know
so
the
use
cases
you
know
span
quite
large
in
terms
of
how
I
think
they
really
want
much
of
what
these
groups
work
on
to
be
successful,
because
that
enables
us
to
have
differently
make
differently,
which
is
I.
Think
where
you
know
the
next
part
of
my
expression
of
calling
what
we
do
Cloud,
but
right
as
data
moves
to
the
cloud
right,
you
know
in
the
morning,
you
have
the
ability
to
choose
what
you
share.
Maybe
you
bring
with
others
now.