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From YouTube: Panel Discussion: Hyperledger in Supply Chains - Moderated by Allison Clift-Jennings, Filament
Description
Can we bring value to enterprises by integrating supply chain business processes and product lifecycle data? Is there an actual upgrade of existing trade finance and other solutions when using distributed ledger technologies? Let’s study the development of use cases and examples of deployments used in the early field studies. How can we enable small to large scale blockchain based integration of enterprise systems, processes and data across various industries. Attendees will walk away with a better understanding of first mile traceability needs and how the Hyperledger community can be at the forefront of development.
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A
Let
them
introduce
themselves
in
a
moment:
Peter
Novotny
research
staff,
member
at
IBM,
TJ,
Watson,
Research
Center,
then
I
have
yu
Jiang
senior
architect
at
Huawei
as
well
to
join
this
panel,
and
so
you
have
quite
a
quite
a
good
mix
here.
You've
got
architects.
People
actually
building
you've
got
researchers,
the
people
ensuring
that
these
are
correct
and
working
well,
and
then
you
have
the
implementers
as
well,
and
so
with
that.
Let
me
hand
it
off
to
each
of
you
to
introduce
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
the
project
you're
working
on
okay.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
been
interesting
also
already
have
these
keynote
speakers,
but
we
as
researchers,
we
always
should
know
the
past
and
what
what
has
been
written
on
this
issue,
but
now
we're
in
new
technology.
Still
it
was
500
years
ago,
just
a
few
hundred
kilometers
from
here
where
look
up
at
you
only
develop
a
business
system
that
is
still
used
all
over
the
world
and
that
is
ledger
auditing
laptop
of
bookkeeping
system.
B
So
that
is
very
interesting
that
now
we
are
developing
ledger
on
blockchain
and
I
would
say
in
a
very
big
picture
that
this
blockchain
ledger
is
between
the
organization
where
Luca
Pacioli
develop
ledger
within
organization.
So
this
is
a
missing
part
of
our
future.
So
long
live
nature,
I'm,
a
researcher
of
information,
logistic
integration
and
I'm
working
in
two
big
business
cases,
hi.
C
D
Hello:
everyone,
my
name,
is
Lu
Anja
and
I.
Come
from
Huawei
I'm,
a
solution,
architecture
of
Huawei
productions.
Teresa
we
launched
a
vast
platform
this
year,
it's
been
based
on
epilator
fabric,
so
we
have
joined
a
number
of
partners
to
develop
a
different
industry
solution
in
our
past
platform,
such
as
taxation
and
copyright,
and
the
data
exchanger,
where
the
supply
chain
and
supply
chain
finance
is
very,
very
important
in
areas
we
think
so
later
we
will
discuss
how
to
how
the
BOK
chain
enables
the
supply
chain
and
splashes
and
ask
ok.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
While
we
talk
through
this
because
it
can
be
a
fairly
complex
ecosystem,
as
you
can
see,
and
so
they
may
be
referring
to
this
at
some
point
as
they
discuss,
but
I
wanted
to
start
off
with
really
you
know
in
the
supply
chain
space
within
most
industries,
we
have
a
significant
desire
to
reduce
costs
right
a
cost
center.
That's
often
discussed
okay
Kerry,
let's
start
with
you.
What
sorts
of
work
have
you
been
doing
around
specifically
focusing
on
cost
reduction
within
the
supply
chain,
industries.
B
Ok
here
in
the
picture,
you
can
see
that
in
the
upper
there
there
is
a
meal,
meaning
that
there
is
by
a
biorefinery
industry
which
I'm,
which
is
one
of
our
focus
area,
and
we
are
using
raw
material
as
tree
and
very
many
other
materials.
So
we
calculated
in
our
business
case
40
big
companies,
20
of
them
we're
buyers
and
20
of
them
were
suppliers,
and
we
calculated
how
much
manual
work
they
are
doing
when
they
are
integrating
the
information
based
on
manual
processes,
and
there
were
some
11
million
transactions
between
those
companies.
B
The
problem
is
that
the
manual
work
in
economic
country,
high
economic
countries
like
in
Finland,
the
average
cost,
is
37
euros
per
hour
and
in
in
developing
countries
it's
five
years
of
per
hour.
So
we
have
lost
our
competitive
two
to
four
percent,
because
we
are
doing
manual
work
and
that's
why
we
are
now
focusing
on
on
blockchain
I.
C
Can
give
you
example
from
platform
which
is
IBM
building
just
go
trade
lands
which
is
related
to
shipping
of
goods
and
containers
around
the
world,
and
then
we
started
to
look
at
this
business
case.
It
turns
out
that
15
percent
of
cost
of
shipping
goods
around
the
world
is
related
to
shipping
the
information
about
those
goods
around
the
world.
So
when
you
set
some
container
in
parallel,
you
need
to
send
also
the
documents
which
represent
the
content
of
the
container,
and
you
can't
send
that
information
along
the
same
container.
C
So
you
need
to
send
it
by
somebody
else
on
different
paths,
and
this
represents
15
percent
of
overall
world
trade
cost
so
using
blockchain
eliminates
all
this
and
and
and
reduces
this
to
to
the
fraction
of
person.
So
the
technology
allows
us
to
significantly
speed
up
but
also
eliminate
the
cost
of
different
rounds.
All.
A
D
Blockchain,
can
I
I
think
ease,
can
slow
the
trust
problem
in
the
society
and
in
the
whole
supply
chain
and
supply
of
anions,
because
each
company
and
is
a
supplier
and
the
buyer
and
the
autistic
companies-
it's
not
just
with
each
other.
Maybe
so,
if
we
use
a
supply
chain
in,
but
we
use
the
blockchain
in
supply
chain,
so
it
may
be
reduced
trust
risk,
I.
Think,
ok,.
D
D
A
Yeah,
so
on
the
on
the
flip
side
of
this,
throw
this
question
back
at
you
all
is
that
cost
center
is
obviously
very
important,
as
was
mentioned
in
the
keynote
earlier,
and
this
is
something
that
actually
film
it
focuses
on
as
well.
Quite
significantly
is
that
there
are
new
business
models.
There
are
new
profit
centers
new
businesses
that
can
and
should
be
built,
quite
frankly,
on
top
of
blockchain
technology
and
so
within
the
supply
chain.
A
Have
there
been
any
situations
that
and
almost
opened
up
to
any
of
you
I'm
that
you've
found,
or
you
may
have
stumbled
into
this
opportunity
to
actually
build
a
new
product
or
a
new
service?
On
top
of
this,
that
just
simply
wasn't
possible
before
so
not
really
cost
Center
the
more
profit
Center.
Anyone.
B
Okay,
see
when
we
built
the
blockchain
and
all
the
information
is
on
on
blockchain
on
supply
chain.
Then
the
question
is
that
how
can
we
use
this
information,
for
example,
for
new,
so
new
value
add
services,
and
in
our
case,
when
we
are
building
big
chips,
there
is
a
lot
of
activities
that
suppliers
need
to
develop
and
they
are
always
sort
of
lack
of
money,
because
the
involvement
of
the
deliveries
is
a
long-term
period
and
those
companies
are
SME
company,
so
they
they
don't
have
that
much
money
and
the
balance
sheet
is
not
good
enough.
B
C
C
Then
we
can
transform
the
existing
processes
in
a
way
which
which
facilitate
creation
of
let's
say,
new
ways
to
working
with
the
information
or
and
new
products
as
well,
so
one
can
be,
for
example,
if
you
have
a
goods
which
haven't
been
the
information
about
him
wasn't
available
before
and
one
a
new
type
where
that
you
can
associate
with
its
insurance
once
you
want.
The
insurance
company
has
available
a
reliable
information
at
that
moment
that
information
can
be
used
to
actually
ensure
that
Goods
RS
are
related
to
what
Carrie
mentioned.
C
How
financial
institutions
can
work
with
information,
and
that
is
that,
let's
say,
if
you
have
a
typical
trade
shipping
shipping
of
the
goods
and
trade
scenario,
you
will
have
a
financial
instrument
which
will
provide
assurance
that
there
is
going
to
be
payment.
Let's
say
letter
of
credit
in
such
a
way
that
the
payment
is
completed
at
the
end
when
the
goods
are
available.
C
While,
if
you
variable
in
solution
where
information
about
shipping
that
product
among
the
different
points
along
the
path
is
known,
you
can
release
subsequently
different
parts
of
the
payment
to
to
the
supplier
or
to
the
producer
of
the
goods
without
actually
delivering
to
the
end,
and
there
are
many
different
instances
of
how
the
information
can
be
used.
Excellent
yeah.
A
Do
you
have
anything
so
this
kind
of
leads
me
to
the
next
kind
of
a
point
here
is
that
such
an
important
part
of
supply
chain
is:
is
the
capital,
the
financing,
the
actual
you
know,
being
able
to
pay
for
this,
which
you
both
alluded
to
already?
How
intrinsic
or
how
connected?
How
inseparable
do
you
think
trade
finance
is
from
the
supply
chain?
Industry
is
it
it?
Can
you
have
one
without
the
other?
Should
you
ever
have
one
without
the
other?
C
Right
so
so,
yeah,
that's
a
definitely
big
topic.
Now
we're
not
going
to
have
one
blockchain
which
will
solve
all
these
problems,
but
I
can
imagine
that,
and
that's
where
we
are
on
the
path
today,
is
that
we
are
they're
asking
different
aspects
which
are
related
to
to
to
trading
to
shipping,
to
to
logistics
and
to
associated
financial
processing
and
and
different
services.
C
D
Yes,
I
think
in
supply
chain,
we
can
do
the
we
can
choose
which
company
we
use,
because
we
use
the
share
the
ledger
and
by
supply
chain
by
connection
by
this
every
company
and
every
paper
have
it's
a
true
data
in
the
chain.
So
if
we
exchange
with
each
other,
it
will
be
a
real
data
and
we
can,
we
can
say
which
supplier
is
good
and
which
buyer
is
good
and
which
customer
is
good.
So
in
this,
just
just
I
say
a
it's
a
make:
a
trust,
a
digital
economy
ecosystem.
B
B
A
Getting
started
great,
so
this
is
a
big
question.
This
is
probably
the
biggest
question
here
at
this
conference,
and
it's
been
in
this
case
for
blotching
for
a
while
is
that
when
we
get
to
production
or
when
we
will
get
to
production
or
what
does
production
even
mean
our
production
deployment,
usually
that
always
requires
some
set
of
stakeholders
within
either
a
company
working
for
a
company
you're
working
with
or
that
you're
working
at
alongside
with
perhaps
as
a
partnership.
What
sorts
of
experiences
have
all
of
you
had
in
terms
of
actually
getting
stakeholder
buy-in?
A
We
either
with
a
partner
I
know
that
you
two
have
worked
together
on
a
project,
and
so
how
did
that
work?
How
did
you
actually
get
people
to
buy
into
the
idea
of
blockchain
in
this
particular
use
case
in
supply
chain
if
they
were
new
to
the
idea
or
if
they
were
maybe
a
little
bit
hesitant
about
using
that
technology?
For
this
case,
any
war
stories
I
think.
B
There
is
going
to
be
three
different
stories
where
we
will
tell
the
story.
How
well
we
had
I
mean
Leo
will
tell
that
the
held.
Whoever
has
done
IBM
is
telling
how
they're
making
one
of
the
big
from
technology
point
of
view
with
the
industry
and
and
we
are
sort
of
giving
a
story
that
how
we
start
from
research
point
of
view.
So
well.
D
Please
I
would
love
to
hear
that
the
stakeholder
idea
on
my
site-
okay,
I,
don't
share
something
about
the
supplier
and
because
I
want
to
share
it
in
taxation,
because
in
taxation,
the
country
it's
the
best
benefit,
so
the
country
pushed
to
the
blockchain
to
use
in
hesitation.
So
it's
very
important
for
the
Kay
case.
They
holders
to
push
the
supply
chain
to
push
the
blockchain
user,
so
H
a
de-icing
Li.
They
are
the
same
in
supply
chain
and
special
finance
actually
should
be
a
key
stakeholder
to
push
it.
To
approve
a
signal
like
this.
D
C
Yeah
I
can
I
can
point
to
two
examples.
One
is
IBM
developed,
ledger
and
blockchain
solution
for
food
trust
with
Walmart,
and
what
we've
seen
is
that
the
key
stakeholder
is
a
Walmart
and
they
over
time
gained
confidence
that
the
benefit
from
using
blockchain
is
ever
significant,
and
it
was
about
1
months
ago
announced
that
Walmart
now
demands
that
all
the
suppliers
actually
really
put
the
information
about
every
detail
of
the
supply
chain
on
the
ledger,
so
that
it
can
be.
C
The
point
of
the
solution
is
to
place
the
different
products
backs
to
the
sources
and-
and
so
in
this
case,
a
Walmart
is
pushing
for
for
the
utilization
of
blockchain.
Another
in
other
cases,
from
media
remain
where
we
work
with
company,
which
is
Center
mediating
company
within
the
buyers
and
suppliers
of
advertisement,
and
they
take.
They
took
active
role
and
the
other
key
stakeholder
who
is
developing
large
botching
network
and
they
are
themselves
demonstrating
the
benefit
of
that
network.
C
A
To
dig
into
the
Walmart
example
for
a
moment,
that's
a
really
big
deal,
and
that
was
a
big
move,
and
that
was
it.
That
was
a
very
good
established
deployment
for
the
entire
ecosystem,
in
my
opinion.
So
how
did?
How
did
you
actually
get
like?
Was
there
someone
at
Walmart
who,
who
came
to
you
I
mean
I,
don't
need
to
know
the
business
details,
of
course
in
this
audience
doesn't,
but
how
did
they
finally
see?
C
C
One
example
was
that
there
was
a
initial
exercise
by
by
the
BP
in
Walmart
was
responsible
for
for
the
supply
chain
and
he
asked
his
employees
to
to
trace
back
box
of
mango
and,
on
average,
the
employees
needed
about
six
and
a
half
days
to
get
back
to
the
very
beginning
where
the
box
came
from
and
when
the
solution
was
developed
and
the
information
was
available.
The
average
time
is
under
two
seconds,
so
there
is
very
little
to
actually
debate
whether
it
is
a
benefit
or
not.
So.
B
Yes,
so
so
we
have
a
two
big
business
cases.
One
of
them
is
around
B
refinery
industry
in
traditional
way,
meaning
that
how
do
we
develop
from
tree
all
kinds
of
products
to
the
world
and
our
companies
are
working
in
93
different
countries
in
the
world
and
and
the
market
share
of,
for
example,
in
paper,
is
over
30%
in
the
world
paper.
So,
but
those
companies
are
small
still
in
in
the
large
scale
lab
it's,
they
are
not
like
Walmart
and
they
are.
There
is
three
companies
in
Finland
and
then
there
are
lots
of
suppliers.
B
The
same
is
you
in
maritime
industry.
We
are
making
one
of
the
most
beautiful
cruises
to
Caribbean
seas,
but
still
there
are
small
companies,
so
we
have
found
out
that
we
need
to
establish
ecosystem
company
with
within
these
companies
to
sort
of
start
making
the
real
solutions
platform
for
these
companies,
and
now
we
are
in
the
face
where
we
are
sort
of
next
2-3
month.
We
are
developing
the
platform
we
have
already
piloted
and
and
so
the
platform
for
companies
to
have
the
basic
transactions
in
top
of
blockchain.
So.
A
Interesting,
thank
you.
So
no
deployment
of
blockchain
is
without
its
pain
points.
I
think
we
all
recognize
that
anyone
who's
have
tried
to
even
deploy
pre
version,
1.0
sawtooth
or
any
of
these
other
aspects
of
different
hyper
ledger
projects
will
know
the
pain
that
it
takes
to
get
something
like
that
been
running,
so
I
wanted
to
ask
the
panelists
about.
A
Basically,
what
are
what
challenges?
Have
you
all
encountered
in
trying
to
deploy
supply
chain
or
supply
chain,
finance
or
supply
chain
risk
management?
Any
aspect
of
what
you're
all
trying
to
do
within
not
to
really
pick
on
hyper
ledger,
but
within
the
blockchain
ecosystem
right.
This
is
not
inherent
to
hyper
ledger.
Only.
These
are
difficult
new
problems.
A
lot
of
engineers
and
and
technical
people
need
to
get
the
heads
wrapped
around
this.
What
challenges
have
you
found
so
far
and
what
you've
worked
on
and
how
did
you
all
address
them
open
that
I.
B
Would
say
that
we
need
proof
of
concepts
because
those
issues
we
are
now
tracking
with
technologies
like
API
integration,
technology
and
blockchain
integration
technology,
and
we
are
combining
those
two
to
top
of
our
architecture
on
our
ecosystem.
So
those
are
totally
new
issues
to
most
of
the
companies
and
and
even
the
IT
people
in
the
companies.
B
They
are
not
aware
of
these,
so
we
need
a
lot
of
collaborative
activities
to
sort
of
higher
the
level
of
understanding
what
these
technologies
are
and
and
I
would
say
that
that
is
all
our
issue
to
sort
of
go
around
and
tell
what
these
technologies
can
do
and
how
the
implementation
can
be
done.
But
business
believes
when
they
see
it
works.
D
A
D
D
A
C
I
can
I
can
relate
to
that.
The
technology
is
evolving
today
and
it's
not
mature
and
so
in
many
ways,
technologies
in
different
domains
which
are
developed
for
many
more
years,
it's
much
easier
to
deploy
them
at
the
same
time
from
the
real
world
case.
These
cases,
what
we've
seen
is
that
the
major
problem
is
onboarding
getting
to
companies
to
actually
join
the
network
because
to
develop
the
network
itself,
there's
just
one,
of
course,
and
you
maintain
the
network,
and
there
is
a
firm
operational
point
of
view.
C
There's
no
increase
in
the
cost
of
how
the
network
upgrades
but
joining
different
companies,
which
each
internally
has
their
own
system.
They
are
honest,
AP
or
whatever
you
are
a
system
they
have.
Each
system
is
a
little
bit
different
and
each
integration
as
a
significant
expense
related
to
that.
So
one
way
we
we
try
to
address
the
problem
will
be
scary
on
the
project
of
DBE,
where
we
developed
a
specific
integration
endpoints
which
which
try
to
address
it
from
one
way,
but
only
for
certain
types
of
systems.
C
A
C
That's
actually,
what
would
we
found
out
into
DB
ek
is
that
the
dry
festival,
standardization
and
standardization
within
those
networks,
because
similar
networks
will
also
contain
similar
data
and
the
other.
The
other
side
is
the
outside
of
the
network.
So
how
do
you
actually
do
that
and
whether
those
interfaces
can
look
same
and
or
similar
and
whether,
let's
say
between
all
s,
AP
systems,
that
can
be
some
universal
connector,
which
allows
the
flow
I?
C
B
B
But
if
we
think
about
that,
when
we
start
building
the
block
chain
transactions,
there
will
be
a
huge
difference
if
that
block
chain
will
have
written
sort
of
a
structured
data
based
on
standard
compared
to
if
there
is
just
the
information
which
is
which
cannot
be
used
very
efficiently.
So
our
point
is
that
we
need
to
use
global
standards
to
develop
API
integrations
and
also
put
them
to
blockchain
yeah.
D
I
want
to
say
the
standard
may
be
true
level.
One
level
is
under
technical
level,
so
this
is
why
we
use
a
HEPA
lighter
fabric,
because
this
is
why
we
are
working
with
SAP
to
make
the
true
platform,
but
in
the
past
platform,
to
conduct
together
and
beside
this
on
this
platform
it
cross
to
different
countries,
and
we
can
use
the
industry
standard
to
make
our
logistic
our
supply
chain
less
to
work
it
together.
Yes,
I
think
do.
A
A
B
So
this
type
of
approach
that
we
combine
different
companies
in
the
world
to
sort
of
develop,
decoding
and
and
and
the
rules
together
and
that's
very
meaning,
meaningful
and
when,
but
but
also
that
the
hyper
watcher
is
like
platform,
but
the
the
information
that
we
are
storing
to
the
platform.
If
that
is
also
going
to
be
structured,
then
we
are
in
huge,
very.
C
C
At
the
same
time,
if
you
look
at,
for
example,
standard
for
order,
which
was
the
rule
by
European
Union,
it's
fairly
complex
and
so
the
derive
towards
having
Universal
standards
which
capture
all
kinds
of
all
kinds
of
details
of
information-
that's
very
useful,
but
at
the
same
time
we
need
to
know
what
information
we
really
specifically
need
for
that
particular
solution,
because
that's
not
going
to
be
in
most
cases
all
those
complex
structures.
So
we
need
to
figure
out
both
the
standard,
but
also
how
to
really
apply
it.
In
this
kind
of
settings.
I
can.
B
Give
a
warning
what
what
we
should
not.
For
example,
we
started
electronic
invoicing
in
Finland
2006
and
in
in
Europe.
We
are
sending
about
three
hundred
to
thirty
two
billion
invoices
and
we
have
hundred
and
fifty
different
standards
of
electronic
invoicing
in
Europe,
and
we
have
600
different
operators
in
Europe
trying
to
map
those
different
standards
and
they
are
it.
The
cost
is
about
two
billion
euros
for
European
companies,
so
we
that's
not
the
way
that
we
should
go
further.
It's.
A
A
good
point
about
the
cost
discussions
we
were
having
earlier
that
you
could
actually
introduce
new
costs
if
you
don't
standardize
to
some
degree
how
you're
going
to
use
this
new
technology
together.
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that's
lost
on
a
lot
of
blockchain
use
is
that
the
payload
that
goes
inside
the
blockchain
transaction
is
wide
open
their
bytes.
A
What
do
you
want
to
put
in
them
and
that's
a
whole
other
discussion
is
what
do
you
want
to
put
in
them
for
a
particular
use
case,
supply
chain,
supply,
chain,
finance,
supply
chain
risk
management?
You
can
get
as
detailed
as
you
want,
but
to
standardize,
that's
actually
a
very
useful
exercise
in
my
opinion
and
I
think
the
panelists
agree.
So
with
that
I
want
to
open
up
to
some
questions.
A
I
don't
know
if
we
actually
have
microphones
available,
so
you
might
have
to
speak
up
loudly,
but
I
we
have
another
five
minutes
or
so
I
do
want
to
open
up
the
questions.
Anyone
please
feel
free
to
address
your
question
to
a
particular
panelists
or
you
can
ask
it
to
the
entire
panel
itself,
but
I
wanted
to
make
this
a
little
bit
of
a
dialogue
here.
At
the
end,
any
questions
yes.
C
B
From
our
point
of
view,
I
would
say
that
an
example
of
us
is
our
penetration
in
Finland
about
the
electronic
invoicing
is
over
90%
and
also
in
Scandinavia,
but
in
the
world
that
is,
the
penetration
is
around
less
than
20%,
but
countries
like
South
Africa,
South
America
that
there
is
already
them
over.
They
are
interpreting.
B
I
mean
interoperability
is
higher
than
in
Europe,
so
the
companies
come
from
different
corners
and
start
to
pick
up
the
the
new
digital
way,
digital
way
of
integration,
and
the
point
is
that
we
are
still
doing
a
lot
of
manual
work,
for
example,
ordering
a
simple
order.
We
are
not
able
to
sort
it
digitalized,
so
let's
start
from
ordering
processes
and
make
them
in
standardized
way.
That's
our
focused
next
focus.
Ok,.
C
Right
so
two
parts,
one
is
how
they
get
the
data
and
I
do
integration.
So
I
mentioned
that
we
work
on
these
endpoints
which
allow
this
as
easy
as
possible
integration
of
existing
systems.
They
have
because
they
have
their
internal
systems
where
all
the
information
already
exists
right.
So
we
we
facilitate
this
onboarding
can
help
them
to
do
the
on
D
onboarding.
The
other
part
is
how
to
structure
the
network
actually
looks
like
now.
As
you
know,
fabric
is
a
private
blockchain
and
is
designed
to
be
private.
C
That
means
you
do
not
have
the
option
to
have
infinite
number
of
nodes.
Rather,
you
optimize
the
size
of
the
network
to
your
needs
and
operation
needs,
and
so
in
this
case
there
are
a
number
of
nodes
which
are
owned
by
a
number
of
entities,
but
not
by
all
entities
and,
as
I
mentioned
as
Walmart
is
pushing
for
inclusion
of
all
the
suppliers,
then
you
can
imagine.
The
number
is
very
high:
it's
physically
not
possible
to
have
them
all.
Equally.
C
Participating
is
a
stakeholder
with
number
of
nodes
in
the
network,
so
the
number
of
nodes
is
limited,
but
it's
not
limited
to
one
entity.
So
it
is
a
full
blockchain
where
some
participants
have
a
identity,
have
access
to
the
network
to
supplier
information,
but
do
not
participate
as
owners
and
operators
of
peers.
A
A
C
I
would
say
that
goes
very
down
to
the
roots
of
blockchain
and
what
book
Chinese
and
why
I
use
blockchain
and
and
every
bit
you
find
out.
That's
why
Walmart
wants
that.
So
the
point
is
you
have
a
shared
database,
not
in
terms
of
database
structure
but
but
base
of
information
between
multiple
different
entities.
So
you
have
this
integrating
point
where
it
were
one
image
and
one
truth
of
truth
of
data,
and
that
is
shared
between
different
entities
which
each
have
their
own
stake
in
the
network.
C
So,
as
I
said,
not
every
part
of
the
network
has
their
own
own
appeal,
which,
with
all
that
information,
but
those
critical
parts
of
the
network
which
they
each
have
that
same
image
of
the
data
they
have,
each
equal
access
to
the
data
and
each
information
which
comes
to
the
network
goes
through.
You
know,
fabric
has
a
very
specific
consensus
model
which,
by
the
way,
is
very
flexible.
C
So
in
this
case
there
is
a
specific
definition
of
how
what
are
conditions
for
the
information
to
enter,
but
you
have
the
ability
to
control
what
information
under
which
condition
goes
into
the
network.
So
these
different
parts
to
that
they
all
play
together
to
give
you
the
benefit
of
why
to
use
in
this
case,
for
break
for
the
solution.
E
C
So
you
know,
I
can
speak
only
to
later,
because
I'm
not
from
Walmart,
but
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
the
benefits
you
get
is,
for
example,
in
the
database.
There
is
no
way
to
control
from
multiple
participants
point
of
view.
What
information
goes
into
your
database.
You
might
implement
some.
You
know
cumbersome
mechanism
which
will
reconcile
maybe
something
but
but
not
in
this
way
right.
So
that's
the
first
step.
How
does
that?
How
the
transaction
goes
in?
How
the
confirmation
of
the
transaction
happens?
C
Oh
no,
the
other
part
is
that
it
was
discussed
in
the
one
of
the
keynotes,
the
capture
and
which,
which
describes
basically
the
benefits
you
have
from
having
this
kind
of
mechanism
in
place
which
guarantees
the
availability
of
the
information
on
multiple
different
locations
at
the
same
time
and
in
very
consistent
manner.
That's
something
we
cannot
do
across
replicated
database,
because
that
would
be
the
solution
right.
So
you
will
have
many
conflicts.
For
example,
conflict
in
fabric
basically
doesn't
exist
in
in
the
same
way
as
it
exists.
C
B
Would
totally
agree
with
Peter
and
put
it
a
very
simple
way
that
in
single
window
the
the
data
owns
by
a
single
window,
but
in
blockchain
the
data
is
owned?
Who
ever
puts
the
information?
So
it's
your
data,
it's
not
any
more
single
day
window
data,
and
that
makes
a
huge
difference,
because
now
everybody
owns
their
own
data
and
then
they
can
share
it.
Whoever
would
I
want
and
build
new
value,
add
services
and
so
on.
C
C
Does
the
membership
of
the
network
and
the
definition
of
the
consensus
which
stake
it
may
it
might
stay
that
only
Walmart
is
the
one
who
says
what's
inside,
that's
not
the
case
in
this
network,
but
it's
also
possible,
but
but
generally
in
blockchain.
The
condition
would
be
that
this
multiple
different
stakeholders
need
to
have
their
say
before.
The
information
is
actually
including
the
network
that.
A
A
Well,
and
just
as
a
note
we're
a
few
minutes
over
so
I
want
not
stop
this
lively
conversation,
but
it
might
be.
A
good
note
to
end
on
here
is
that
implementation
of
these
blockchain
solutions,
specifically
for
supply
chain
are
gonna,
be
very
important
to
show
the
value.
Why?
Why
are
you
using
this?
Why
should
you
use
this?
Could
you
use
something
else
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
really
remarkable.
A
As
we
see
these
companies
start
to
show
numbers,
and
hopefully
either
profits
at
our
cost
side
value
of
why
they're
using
this
and
what
they've
seen
from
it
that
they
could
not
do
with
other
technology
so
with
that
I
want
to
thank
all
of
our
panelists.
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming
today
and
thank
you
all
for
joining
this
panel.
I
hope
you
have
a
good
time
here
this
week.
Thank
you.