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From YouTube: Hyperledger Member Webinar: Securing your open source blockchain project with IBM Blockchain
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An overview of the latest trends in the market, an update on the growth and impact of industry leading blockchain solutions we are supporting, and our observations about new emerging use cases and network topologies. We'll share our lessons learned from working with hundreds of clients and outline the key challenges in operating networks/solutions at scale. We'll provide an overview of the: development and network management tooling, resiliency and security solutions, and how you can distribute and decentralize your network.
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A
Joining
we're
very
conscious
that
everyone
is
tired
of
zooms
and
webinars
and
meetings
and
everything
else.
So
we
have
content
to
talk
about
what
we
see
in
the
world
of
blockchain.
From
our
perspective,
however,
we
want
this
to
be
a
conversation.
Clearly,
the
the
few
of
you
joined
for
the
purpose
of
learning
something.
So
if
there's
anything,
you're
curious
about
anything,
you
want
to
know
which
we
might
have
an
answer
to
or
which
we
can
follow
up
on.
A
Just
either
speak
up
or
put
on
chat
and
and
we're
gonna
address
it
to
best
of
our
ability.
So
my
name
is
lucas.
Staniszewski
and
I've
been
in
this
space
for
the
last
three
years:
spearheading
the
product
development
practice
in
ibm
largely
focused
on
working
with
the
open
source
community
around
hypology
fabric,
but
most
importantly,
developing
ibm's
blockchain
portfolio
of
products,
which
includes
ibm
blockchain
platform
and
such
I'm
joined
by
porter
stohl
porter.
Do
you
wanna?
Do
a
quick
intro
of
who
you
are
and
what
you
do.
B
Sure
thing
lucas
great
to
be
here
thanks
marta
for
the
introduction
lucas
and
I
have
been
partners
in
crime
now
with
ibm
blockchain
platform.
For
what
two
years
now,
two
years,
I
I've
been
with
ibm
blockchain
platform,
along
with
alan
dickinson
who's
on
the
call
for
for
three
years,
and
you
know
I'm
also
an
offering
manager
with
lucas,
and
we
cover
slightly
different
aspects
of
how
do
we
bring
our
product
to
market.
B
But
I,
on
a
more
personal
note,
I
live
in
north
carolina
at
research
triangle
park,
which
is
ibm
one
of
ibm's,
larger
blockchain
hubs.
Lucas
is
up
the
other
one
in
new
york
city.
We
also
have
hubs
in
hursley
uk
in
other
places
around
the
goal
of
globe.
So
with
you
know
again
to
echo
previous
points,
we're
going
to
make
this
a
conversation
with
ourselves,
and
we
encourage
you
all
to
jump
in
at
any
point
but
excited
to
be
here
today
and
talk
some
blockchain.
A
Cool
thanks
brother.
So
let
me
let
me
just
outline
what
we
came
to
discuss
but
again
we're
flexible,
so
we'll
start
off
with
some
high-level
trends
of
what
we
see
in
the
market,
based
on
our
conversations
with
clients,
analysts
and
such
and
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
maybe
not
familiar
with
what
we
do
ibm
has
been
in
this
space
for
for
a
very
long
time.
We'll
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
history,
but
we
were
one
of
the
the
initial
contributors
to
hypologia
fabric.
A
We
actually
contributed
the
code
which
then
originated
to
be
fabric
and
we've
been
very
active
in
the
community.
Since
then,
we've
had
literally
hundreds
of
of
clients
working
on
our
products
and
we've
seen
a
lot
in
this
market.
So
we're
going
to
share
a
little
bit
of
the
latest
trends
and
some
high-level
industry,
specific
things
we're
seeing
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
blockchain
is
just
the
underlying
technology
which
you
all
know
and
it's
exciting
to
know
and
see
what
is
happening
on
the
industry
level
from
a
use
case
perspective.
A
We
hope
that
you're
gonna
post
some
questions
so
that
we
can
tackle
them
as
we
go,
and
the
objective
today
is
one
show
us
how
we
can
help
you
and
two.
If
any
one
of
you
is
is
interested
in
a
one-on-one
conversation
is
to
ultimately
come
to
us
and
have
a
chat
about
all
things
blockchain.
So
with
that
said,
let's
start
off
with
some
observations.
B
Yeah,
thanks
lucas,
you
know
it's
hard
to
talk
about
the
market
today
without
covering
covet
in
some
way,
shape
or
form.
I
know
we're
all,
probably
you
know
exhausted
from
talking
about
covet,
but
this
has
had
a
dramatic
impact
on
the
blockchain
market,
specifically
enterprise
blockchain,
both
good
and
bad.
I
you
know:
we've
seen
overall
investment
with
blockchain
decrease
dramatically
because
of
the
pandemic.
B
We
see
forecasts
for
2021
cut
across
the
board,
and
the
reason
for
this
is
a
lot
of
the
key
industries
that
we're
looking
into
blockchain.
Just
aren't
a
position
to
invest
in
innovation
like
they
were:
construction,
consumer
services,
transportation,
media
retail.
I
mean
these
were
some
of
our
most
promising
clients
and
you
know
they're
facing
larger
challenges
at
the
moment.
So
you
can
see
how
it's
difficult
to
put
enterprise
blockchain
as
a
priority.
B
You
know,
and
with
economic
uncertainty,
becomes
tighter
innovation
budgets,
tighter
budgets
across
the
board.
Until
we
get
some
level
of
stability
and
clarity,
I
can
empathize
with
any
cio
cto
truck
like
how
do
you
allocate
your
budget
and
where
do
you
invest
your
limited
resources?
In
this
time
of
uncertainty?
B
You
want
to
go
on
to
the
next
slide
lucas
and
the
data
is
showing
this
out
so
just
from
doing
some
basic
social
listening,
you
can
see.
Industries
such
as
financial
services,
healthcare
and
industrial
are
really
ramping
up
their
interests
and
and
mentions
of
blockchain.
You
know
we're.
We
see
volume
in
blockchain
marketplaces
jump
by
more
than
36
percent
from
600.
You
know
675
000
in
june
to
925
20,
000
plus
in
july.
B
And
you
know,
there's
still
a
large
conversation
about
permission
versus
permission,
less
and
right
now
we're
seeing
adoption
on
both
sides
of
the
fence,
and
you
know
it's
not
to
say
one
is
better
than
the
other.
At
this
point,
I
think
what
the
more
important
lesson
here
is
is
that
we
need
both
both
to
be
successful.
B
A
rising
tide
lifts
all
boats
and
over
time
we
will
work
to
increase
interoperability
between
these
two
spheres
of
our
world
at
this
moment,
but
when
you
see
large
businesses
deepening
their
investment
in
enterprise
blockchain
and
permission
blockchain,
this
is
a
great
thing
same
with
permissionless,
it's
great
to
see
the
ernst
youngs
and
coca-colas
of
the
world
investing
in
permissionless
as
well.
This
is
only
going
to
bring
more
attention
to
the
industry,
create
more
opportunities
and
eventually
we'll
get
to
a
point
of
increased
interoperability.
B
Where
you
know,
blockchain
can
really
deliver
on
the
promise
it's
always
sent
out
to
deliver.
So
you
know
I
don't
want
to
read
too.
You
know
it's
not
about
picking
a
winner
or
a
loser
at
this
point
again,
it's
I
still
think
we're
in
a
period
of
learning,
trial
and
error
and
getting
more
and
more
applications
into
a
production
state
and
seeing
let
people
see
firsthand
the
value
that
distributed
ledger
technology
can
bring
to
their
organizations
and
ecosystems.
B
Yeah
and
personally,
I
think
you
know,
as
bitcoin,
continues
to
surge
to
new
all-time
highs
or
close
to
it.
I
think
this
is
also
good
for
enterprise
blockchain
as
well.
It
drags
the
conversation
and
puts
it
on
the
forefront
of
more
people's
brains
and
all
conversations
are
going
to
be
productive.
At
this
point
you
know
with
all
that
being
said
of
permission
permission
less.
B
We
continue
to
see
hyper
ledger
fabric
as
the
leader
in
this
space.
It's
got
the
most
mature
ecosystem
and
you
know
we
constantly
get
re
affirmation
from
all
the
sources
and
customers
that
we
speak
with,
that
it
is
a
diff.
It
is
the
default
standard
for
enterprise
blockchain,
and
you
know
it's
great,
that
permissionless
is
getting
steam
and
there's
there's
absolutely
some
great
use
cases
there,
but
for
what
businesses
we
see
businesses
trying
to
accomplish
today
from
a
value
standpoint,
we
continue
to
see
hyper
ledger
fabric
being
the
de
facto
dlt
of
choice.
B
C
B
B
A
Let
me
add
two
two
points
to
that.
So
so
one
case
in
point
from
our
perspective
that
we
see
adoption
in
the
future,
but
there's
a
lot
of
different
hurdles
that
companies
will
face
like
if
you
think
about
participating
in
any
public
blockchain,
doesn't
matter
whether
it's
ethereum,
hedera
or
anything
else.
Suddenly,
the
company
has
to
go
into
the
custody
of
these
assets,
tokens
and
such,
and
that
becomes
a
problematic
accounting
and
finance
problem,
because
it's
difficult
to
account
for
the
value
of
these.
Is
it
an
expense?
A
Is
it
an
asset
who
has
permissions
where
is
it
stored?
So
this
is
a
new
concept.
It's
not
necessarily
a
tricky
concept,
but
it's
a
new
concept
and
many
companies
are
simply
not
fit
for
that.
But
that's
like
a
tactical
reason.
I'd
say
the
bigger
reason
is
is
one
which
is
very
relevant
to
the
discourse
of
today's
world,
which
is
a
lot
of
people
say
why?
A
Wouldn't
elections
and
voting
be
done
on
blockchains
and
the
majority
of
us
say:
yeah,
that's
a
brilliant
case,
but
it
becomes
a
little
bit
more
tricky
because
if
you
suddenly
allow
yourself
to
run
extremely
important
operations,
be
it
in
the
public
or
private
sector.
You
are
now
vulnerable
to
that
system,
so
you
are
vulnerable
to
denial
of
attacks
and
any
other
thing,
and
you
are
dependent
on
the
underlying
layer
there.
A
The
layer
is
not
yet
mature
enough
to
address
cases
which
are
very
vulnerable
in
terms
of
security
and
such
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
which
are
unknowns.
I
think
companies
today
are
still
in
a
proof
of
concept
in
pilot
mode
to
test
these,
but
to
move
a
production
system
where
you
have
sensitive
data
and
data
that
you
cannot
expose.
A
A
We
believe
that
this,
the
web
3.0,
is
an
area
which
will
change
the
world
we
live
in
now
it's
going
to
take
time
and
some
cases
will
need
a
closed
ecosystem,
which
will
be
done
through
permission.
Others
will
benefit
from
open,
so
the
the
future
is
very
much
about
how
do
these
coexist
in
the
same
way
as
how
the
web
coexists
with
different
different
underlying
technologies.
B
A
B
B
C
D
Hi,
lucas
and
porter
I've
got
a
question.
Do
you
see
a
problem
with
the
adoption
due
to
a
number
of
organizations
having
to
to
so,
for
example,
you
may
start
off
with
an
organization,
but
then
everyone
needs
to
be
part
of
this
consortium.
In
order
to
be
able
to
have
that
adoption.
Do
you
see
any
blockers
or
issues
there.
A
So
that's
that's
a
that's
like
the
crux
of
the
enterprise
network
formation
question.
So
there's
a
few
subsets
of
your
question,
which
is:
how
do
you
incentivize
people
to
join
and
network
people's
being
organizations
if
they
have
limited
benefits,
tangible
benefits,
and
how
do
you
solve
for
that?
So
there's
a
number
of
things
we've
observed
in
the
market.
One
is
that
if
you're
a
market
monopoly
you
demand
that
clients
or
partners
on
work
to
a
network
because
of
the
benefit
they
will
receive
of
being
a
supplier?
A
That's
that's
one
and
that's
kind
of
another
long-term
solution.
What
we're
seeing
more
and
more
of
is
that
the
it's
important
to
distinguish?
What
does
it
mean
to
be
a
member
of
a
network
from
a
technological
perspective
like
owning
a
node
owning
a
peer
owning
whatever
the
construct
is
in
in
the
protocol
you're
working
on
in
high
quality
fabric?
Do
you
need
a
peer
now?
Do
you
need
to
have
access
to
the
ledger?
A
Do
you
need
to
be
endorsing
transactions
or
do
you
need
to
participate
in
consensus
and
what
we're
seeing
over
time
is
that,
especially
around
the
consensus
level,
if
you're
building
a
private
network,
you
not
everyone
needs
to
be
the
one
participating
in
running
the
transactions
through
the
consensus.
That's
one.
The
second
then
becomes
more
tricky
around
who,
from
the
organizational
level
needs
to
own
a
node
with
access
directly
to
the
ledger,
endorsed
transactions.
A
So
if
we
look
at
a
topology
of
the
growth
of
our
networks,
we're
seeing
very
few,
which
are
adding
many
many
nodes,
what
we
see
actually
happening
is
companies
working
more
on
the
application
layer.
So
you
don't
need
to
own
an
individual
node
yourself,
you're
participating
either
in
a
community,
a
shared
node
in
which
you
have
like,
given
restricted
access
and
permissions,
and
that
reduces
the
cost.
It
reduces
the
burden
of
a
member
company
actually
going
into
the
details
of
blockchain,
and
that's
like
the
big
big
big
topic.
A
We
should
abstract
them
away
from
the
blocks
chain.
Conversation
at
some
point
and
focus
on
the
application
layer
because
you're
there
to
get
data
visibility
to
get
whatever
you
need
to
get
in
your
solution.
So
long
answer,
but
the
point
is
there
are
new
models
from
a
network
topology
perspective
which
are
far
more
suited
than
we
believed
two
years
ago.
Porter.
How
would
you?
How
would
you
add
to
this.
B
Yeah
it's
I,
I
see
the
networks
that
are
successful
have
a
structured
approach
to
onboarding
new
members
and
like
that
governance
model,
and
with
that
it's
tied
to
the
value
proposition
that
that
their
application
is
looking
to
create,
and
what
I
see
is
the
more
laser
focused.
You
have
on
your
use
case
and
the
specific
problem
you're
solving
it
makes
it
is
the
oil
in
the
car
that
makes
it
all
run.
B
That's
what
gets
people
through
your
governance
process,
and
I
think
you
know
if
I
were
to
look
forward-
and
you
know
this
is
teasing
out
a
subject
we'll
cover
later
it's.
How
do
you
you
help
people
with
governance
models,
so
they
can
be
successful
because
that
that
is
the
tricky
part.
There's
the
business.
There's
the
legal
and
the
technology
aspect,
the
blt
of
blockchain-
and
you
know
their
business-
has
come
a
long
way.
The
technology
has
come
a
long
way
in
any
blockchain
conversation,
it's
rarely
the
technology.
B
That
is
the
sticking
point
for
adoption
and
proliferation.
It
is
the
the
legal
which
kind
of
includes
the
governance
structures.
So
you
know.
Hopefully
there
will
be
a
lot
more
work
done
there,
creating
more
standardized
standard
processes
for
anyone
and
everyone
to
follow.
So
they
can
get.
You
know,
focus
on
on
the
business
logic
and
problem
that
they're
actually
trying
to
solve.
D
No,
no
thank
you
for
that.
I
I
I
ask.
I've
got
a
couple
of
use
cases
and
I
don't
want
to
take
any
much
more
of
your
time.
Is
there
any
way
I
can
get
in
contact
or
with
you
guys
directly
to
kind
of
go
through
that
I
kind
of
work
for
a
consultancy
which
are
looking
into
blockchain
at
the
moment.
So
what
is
the
best
way
of
getting
contact
with
you.
A
F
E
E
D
C
So
I
think
the
general
answer
here
is:
you
can
use
distributed,
ledger
and
hypothetical
fabric
for
almost
any
use
case
you
can
come
up
with.
It
is
a
technology
just
like
your
you
know,
databases,
artificial
intelligence,
cloud
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
can
you
use
a
technology
to
build
a
decentralized
media
platform
sharing
platform?
Yes,
now
question
is
what
exactly
do
you
want
to
decentralize
and
what's
your
what's
your
use
case
specifically
what?
B
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you.
So
you
know
I
worked
with
one
client
who
does
video
distribution
and
why
they
were
using
blockchain.
As
an
example
was
you
know,
I
I
don't
know
where
everyone
lives,
but
in
the
us
like
we
get.
We
consume
most
of
our
video
con,
like
our
movie
content
through
netflix
and
hulu
and
these
services,
but
when
you
go
to
an
international
market,
the
distributors
or
wholesalers
of
those
videos,
it's
very
hard
to
track
and
trace,
who
has
rights
to
what
video
and
for
how
long
and
through
what
outlet?
B
And
it's
like
it
becomes
a
distributed
network
of
trying
to
figure
out
who
has
your
content
into
what
markets?
So
there
was
a
startup
that
was
looking
at
using
blockchain
to
facilitate
and
solve
a
problem
that
is
international,
video
distribution
or
movie
title
distribution,
and
you
know
that
works
really
well.
For
some
of
these
you
know
non-marquee
titles,
like
independent
films,
for
example
like
how
do
you
put
these
into
markets
in
a
secure
way
that
you
can
a
know
who
has
rights
to
it
and
for
how
long?
B
How
many
views
it's
getting
and
everyone
from
the
movie
producer
to
the
to
the
distributor
to
the
consumer
has
transparency
as
to
how
any
specific
title
is
performing.
So
you
know
when
you
look
at
an
international.
You
know
television
market.
Now
that
is
a
diverse
network
of
participants
and
you're,
trying
to
aggregate
that
information
across
you
know
different
user
bases,
so
you're
getting
you
know
who's
consuming
the
video
who
has
rights
to
the
video
and
how
you
know
all
other
financial
performance
metrics
that
are
associated
with
that
video
distribution
and
consumption.
So.
A
So
far,
let's,
let's
let's
move
on:
let's,
let's
give
our
review
on
like
what
we
know
are
the
cases
that
are
growing.
It
feels
that
we
could
have
had
a
conversation
about.
Sometimes
your
presentation
is
this
a
blockchain's
case,
or
is
this
not?
We
won't
go
down
that
path,
but
let's
talk
about
what
we
think
is
is
excited.
What
we
don't
think
is
exciting.
We
can
skip
this
and
talk
about.
You
know
the
impact.
B
Yeah,
so
you
know
this
is
we've,
as
lucas
mentioned
before,
we've
been
in
blockchain
for
a
long
time
now,
and
we've
grown
a
very
exciting
customer
base
that
we're
proud
of
these
are
production,
clients,
doing
real
things
in
blockchain,
and
you
know,
while
we
we're
not
going
to
dive
into
every
single
one
of
the
examples,
we
just
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
key
like
how
these
some
of
these
solutions
have
evolved
over
time.
So
within
ibm,
one
of
our
marquee
solutions
is
ibm
food
trust.
So
you
can
see
that
you
know.
B
If
you
look
at
we
trade,
we
trade
as
a
trade
finance
solution,
it's
got
16
of
the
largest
banks
across
15
countries
in
europe
and
it's
you
know:
it's
got:
60
million
euro
value
of
transactions,
so
they're
putting
real
business
value
through
this
network
and
it's
facilitating
the
speed
of
businesses.
I
like
to
say
you
know,
with
major
players
and
their
their
vendor
ecosystem
within
europe
and
bci
out
of
thailand.
B
But
you
know
all
these
companies
are
evolving
and
you
know
if,
when
we
talk
to
analysts,
one
of
the
common
things
we
hear
about
enterprise
blockchain
is
it's
in
the
trough
of
disillusionment.
So
you
have
your
initial
hype
cycle,
which
kind
of
peaked
out
in
2018
with
the
you
know
in
sync,
with
bitcoin
20
000.
But
since
then,
we've
we've
really
gone
down
into
the
trough,
and
what
that
has
done
is
it's
weeded
out?
B
B
And
you
know
what
do
these
customers
have
in
common?
You
know:
we've
touched
on
it
multiple
times,
so
I'll
do
this
quickly.
You
know,
there's
an
existing
business
network,
those
companies
that
have
to
create
an
ecosystem
really
are
struggling,
but
those
who
already
had
an
ecosystem
in
place
that
they
can
tap
into
with
this
value-added,
offering
are
doing
much
better.
B
Secondly,
they
have
a
real
problem
on
that
they've
been
examining
how
they
conduct
business
today
that
there's
some
sort
of
friction,
whether
perceived
or
real,
that
incurs
you
know
unnecessary
costs
or
time
delays
and
there's
an
unsatisfied
need
for
trust.
And
what
does
that
mean?
I
you
know
one
of
the
common
things
or
one
of
my
favorite
revelations
in
my
three
years
of
blockchain
at
ibm
is
the
notion:
is
it's
not
that
trust
doesn't
exist?
It's
that
trust
can
be
enhanced
by
blockchain
and
what
is
the
value
of
enhancing
that
trust?
B
Then
a
lot
of
times.
It
means
you
know
a
massive
reduction
in
cost
or
time
and
efficiency
and
there's
still
a
whole
suite
of
revenue,
innovations
that
we
really
haven't
even
scratched
the
surface
of,
but
it's
it's
really
challenging
ourselves
to
think
of
what
could
I
do
in
my
business
world
with
enhanced
trust,
but
these
are
the
three
ingredients
that
we
commonly
see,
and
you
know
with
that.
B
So
you
know
we
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
our
favorite
use
cases,
and
you
know
highlight
the
common
use
case
as
well.
So
one
of
the
common
use
cases
we're
getting
is
just
track
and
trace
capabilities
within
blockchain,
so
straight
provenance
of
you
know
where,
where
goods
have
come
from
and
where
they're
going,
you
know,
we've
talked
about
food
trust.
B
This
is
a
great
example
of
you
know:
food
traceability
and
supply
chain
visibility,
which
started
with
a
great
story
out
of
walmart
where
walmart
went
to
a
team
of
people
and
said,
tell
me
the
origins
of
these
of
this
mango
and
it
took
the
team
about
six
to
ten
people
six
days
to
locate
exactly
which
farm
those
mangoes
came
from
and
since
that,
since
operating
on
the
blockchain.
Now
that
same
query
takes
about
two
seconds,
so
you
could
see
the
transparency
that
provides.
B
B
B
A
The
purpose
of
what
we're
doing
now
is
to
give
you
a
glimpse
of
literally
networks
which
are
real
impact,
so
this
is
not
hand
selected
pocs,
which
have
been
with
us
for
three
months.
Those
are
actual
real
networks,
but
how
does
that
relate
to
you?
One
thing
which
you
can
take
away
is
that
for
the
majority
of
the
use
case,
we're
speaking
about
so
we're
gonna
speak
about
procurement.
We're
gonna
speak
about
letters
of
guarantee
and
track
and
trace.
A
We've
built
so-called
code
samples,
so
for
you
to
rather
than
rebuild
an
existing
solution,
there's
a
number
of
paths
you
can
take.
You
can
join
a
network
and
learn
from
that
network
as
a
member
or
you
can
replicate
the
model
which
they're
doing
in
perhaps
a
different
industry,
perhaps
a
different
market.
So
we
will
share
the
assets
with
you
at
the
end,
but
we
have
a
whole
repository
of
of
samples
that
can
kick-start
your
journey
very
quickly
to
address
any
of
these
use
cases
so
again
on
our
website
in
the
links
we'll
share.
B
Yeah-
and
you
know
letters
of
guarantee-
it's
like-
I
never
knew.
This
was
such
a
problem
but
like
if
you
want
to
guarantee
to
like
it,
takes
over
a
month
in
australia
to
get
that
type
of
issuance
and
it's
paper-based
process,
and
now
it
you
know
with
with
blockchain,
you
can
get
that
issuance
within
under
under
a
day.
B
You
know
so
you
think
of
something
like
covid.
All
of
a
sudden.
You
know
people
needed
to
get.
You
know
ventilators
from
suppliers
that
they
had
hadn't
traditionally
worked
with
before,
like
think
of
ford,
motor
companies
started
producing
ventilators
within
the
first
couple
weeks
as
other
vendors
as
well
came
into
the
market
to
provide
this
equipment,
but
yet
they're,
not
in
your
traditional
customer
database,
a
vendor
database.
So
how
can
you
get
them
included
and
get
there
make
sure
their
product
is
trusted?
And
you
know
supporting
the
market
and
same
with
trust
your
supplier?
B
B
And
within
the
covid
space,
I
think
one
of
the
more
exciting
developments
has
been
on
digital
health
pass,
and
what
this
is
is
how
do
you?
How
do
you
enable
this
economy
to
get
up
and
running
again?
I
have
a
friend
who
you
know
manages
a
theater
here
in
north
carolina
where
they
have
broadway
shows
musical
acts,
and
they
have
no
pathway
forward
to
safely
and
securely
opening
up
those
venues
like
they.
Their
only
path
forward
for
revenue
viability
is
to
have
people
inside
so
d.
Is
digital
health
paths
can
support.
B
You
know,
entertainment
venues,
workplaces
on
providing
some
level
of
assurance
on
who
is
walking
into
those
facilities,
making
sure
that
they've
been
tested
and
that
you
know
these
encrypted
digital
wallets
that
have
your
certification
that
you
have
some
sort
of
covet
response
or
test.
That
is
valid
for
a
specific
duration
of
time.
B
You
know:
can
this
allow
the
economy
to
reopen
in
a
healthy
way,
in
a
private,
secure
way
that
no
pii
or
health
data
is
or
metadata
is
obtained
from
your
health
records?
But
it's
a
really
great
and
difficult
question
that
involves
credentialing
and
blockchain
and
permission
blockchain
that
we're
seeing
you
know
across
ibm
today.
A
So
so
a
few
answers
so
yeah
there's
in
the
areas
or
so
it
seems
that
there's
quite
a
few
opening
up
in
that
space.
So
we
have
a
an
organization
which
has
been
working
on
indie
on
indy
for
quite
a
while,
and
it's
more
so
to
address
the
identity
case
from
a
pure
perspective.
So
we
have
a
number
of
security
and
identity
management
solutions
which
are
built
on
on
indie.
Now
from
an
interoperability
perspective,
it's
interesting.
You
say
so.
A
A
We
don't
have
anything
today
we're
looking
at
how
to
leverage
this,
because
it
becomes
clear
per
my
comments
about
voting
further
comments
about
these
solutions,
that
identity
will
play
a
key
role
and
just
building
an
identity
or
a
certificate
or
a
ca
or
an
msp
on
each
individual
network
doesn't
make
sense.
A
year
ago
we
were
very
bullish
on
the
notion
of
networks
of
networks
like
some
of
our
fortune.
A
500
clients
are
working
on
10,
different
use
cases
in
supply,
chain,
trade,
finance,
procurement
and
so
forth,
and
as
it
stands,
they're
building
10
different
networks
that
is
unsustainable.
So
I,
this
central
identity
will
play
a
key
role,
be
it
on
an
individual
or
organizational
or
functional
level.
So
now
I
will
shut
up
and
let's
perhaps
porter
augments,
my.
B
A
What
we,
what
the
platform
is,
is
I'm
going
to
explain
in
more
detail,
but
it's
it's
an
environment
in
which
you
can
manage
your
networks.
You
can
grow
your
networks
and
you
can
manage
everything
to
do
from
an
operational
level.
Everything
is
built
on
hyperledger
fabric
and
our
platform
can
run
on
any
underlying
environment
as
long
as
it
is
kubernetes.
So
a
lot
of
people
think
ibm
blockchain
platform,
ibm
cloud.
No,
you
can
use
ibm
blockchain
platform
on
whichever
cloud
you
want
to
deploy
it
to.
A
So
let
me
give
you
a
few
reasons
for
why
you
should
reach
out
to
us
for
a
follow-up
or
why
you
should
click
on
our
marketing
pages
and
go
and
do
a
30-day
trial.
So
one
as
you
probably
can
tell
we've
been
in
this
space
for
a
long
time
and
we
have
consistently
been
argued
to
be
the
number
one
player
in
this
space
because
of
our
involvement
in
the
community
join
any
hyperledger.
Meetup
join
any
at
any
webinar
and
you'll
see
go
to
the
github
pages.
A
Go
to
the
community,
you'll
see
our
active
contribution
and
this
task
of
knowledge,
which
we
have
correlates
to
how
we
know
this
product,
and
we
know
this
industry
so
we're
ultimately
this
one
throat
to
choke.
If
you
want
to
do
blockchain,
we
can
give
you
the
people
and
expertise,
and
this
is
evident
in
how
quickly
we
adopt
open
source
versions
in
our
product.
A
Now
I've
mentioned
this
early,
but
let's
conceptualize
it
a
little
bit.
So,
of
course
you
can
take
open
source
fabric
and
you
can
deploy
it
anywhere,
but,
as
probably
many
of
you
know,
it
becomes
a
complex
operation.
If
you
have
a
network
with
a
hundred
organizations
with
tens
of
thousands
of
of
channels,
it
becomes
very
difficult
if
you
don't
have
a
management
console.
So
our
console
lets
the
users
both
one
deploy
where
you
want
to
deploy
like,
I
said,
but
also
manage
all
these
different
node
deployments.
A
So
your
members
will
be
running
in
many
different
places
in
one
central
place
and
this
this
matters
because
blockchain
should
not
restrict
anyone.
The
point
of
blockchain
is
to
include
everyone
from
a
perspective
of
a
network,
so
if
you're
now
saying
that
you
can
only
run
in
one
environment
or
something
else,
you're
limiting
your
options.
So
what
we're
saying
here
deploy
it
anywhere
connect
your
nodes
in
one
central
place.
A
I
mentioned
the
tooling,
like
the
tooling,
is
literally
the
the
bread
and
butter
of
what
we
do
and
the
big
chunk
of
our
work.
I'll
give
a
few
hypothetical
examples,
but
managing
permissions
of
hundreds
of
members
requires
changes
to
endorsement
policies
and
changes
within
the
member
permissions
and
such
doing
this
on
an
individual
level
becomes
extremely
time.
Sensitive,
onboarding,
new
members
through
fabric
we've
done
some
tests.
A
If
you
were
to
do
it
open
source
without
any
tooling
yourself,
it
takes
hours
and
then,
if
you
go
into
products
in
which
you
should
focus
on
onboarding
a
member
quickly
for
the
discussion
we
have
with
james,
we
we
allow
you
to
do
it
in
a
few
minutes.
So
the
point
is
that
our
platform
has
been
built
in
a
way
to
abstract
away
all
these
things,
which
are
not
value
additive
for
you,
but
are
essential
for
your
network
to
grow.
A
This
is
a
key
point,
so
I'm
going
to
conceptualize
it
first,
the
enterprise
permissioned
space
has
been
criticized
that
it
is
not
decentralized
and
distributed.
That
has
been
a
hallmark
criticism
for
the
last
few
years,
so
the
argument
is,
consensus
is
run
by
one
company
chain
code
or
smart
contracts
are
written
one
by
one
company
and
you
cannot
run
the
solution
in
many
different
environments.
That
is
a
myth.
The
truth
is
that,
with
the
technologies
and
fabric
and
the
technologies
we
provide,
you
can
connect
your
nodes
running
anywhere.
A
Any
organization
can
participate
and
run
consensus
any
and
all
within
your
network.
Of
course,
it
becomes
more
challenging
and
tricky,
but
you
can
do
it
and
with
the
latest
version
of
fabric,
we
allow
companies
to
come
together
and
write
their
smart
contracts
and
and
agree
on
the
smart
contracts
together.
So
the
point
is
both
in
the
fabric,
but
also
on
our
level.
We've
built
the
tools
which
allow
you
to
build
this
ultimate
flexibility
and
decentralization
as
much
as
you
need
it
to
be
so
tools.
A
I
mentioned
the
platform
tool
per
se,
but
that's
not
it.
That's
not
it.
That's
not
everything.
So
you
can
manage
your
nodes,
but
you
need
to
do
everything
around
it
as
well.
So
I
mentioned
code
patterns
before
so
we
have
a
repository
of
assets
which
can
kickstart
your
development
time.
From
a
use
case
perspective,
we
also
have
an
extension
to
vs
code
that
the
microsoft
ide
platform,
in
which
we
let
you
write
debug
and
smart
and
test
your
smart
contracts.
That
is
a
separate
environment
in
the
environment
which
our
developers
prefer.
A
We've
done
that
that
through
the
so-called
ansible
playbooks
very
quickly
in
the
interest
of
time
we
work
with
fortune,
500s
so
and
others-
sorry
not
two,
not
two,
not
to
say
only
fortune
500,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
enterprises
care
about
security,
resiliency
and
such
so
all
of
the
things
I've
mentioned
are
doable,
but
now
you
need
to
have
a
secure
layer.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we've
built
we've
built
our
product
on
kubernetes
in
kubernetes.
A
What
kubernetes
lets
you
do
is
is
build
your
aha,
your
high
availability
strategy.
In
any
way
you
want
to
so
we've
done
that
through
the
ui
and
you
can
deploy
your
nodes
wherever
and
build
as
robust
or
not
robust
solution,
as
you
want
to
key
management
keys
are
essential
for
any
blockchain
solution.
A
You
will
work
with
a
bank,
you
will
need
iso
and
suck
too,
so
we
are
iso
certified
and
we're
going
through
sock2.
Now
I
feel
I've
been
running
very
quickly
so,
rather
than
run
very
quickly,
I'm
just
going
to
calculate
this
and
then
I'm
going
to
stop.
We
also
participate
in
a
number
of
other
conversations.
A
As
for
martha's
question,
we're
looking
at
how
to
integrate
identity,
we're
looking
at
interoperability
from
a
perspective
of
how
can
many
different
frameworks
work
together,
but
we're
also
looking
at
how
to
move
into
the
world
of
tokens
so
tokens
within
fabric
standardization,
of
the
taxonomy
with
the
interwork
alliance,
but
also
how
can
we
connect
with
public
permission
chains
such
as
hedera,
so
we
wanted
to
have
a
conversation
about
the
future.
We
have
two
minutes
or
three
minutes
so
rather
than
us
talking
about
the
future.
B
F
We
are
doing
some
projects
with
already
with
ibm
poland
for
energy
and
everything.
You
said
there
is
important
and
it's
it's
relevant,
so
we
appreciate
the
the
cooperation
with
ibm
and
we
have
already
vip
treatment
there.
But
if
you
can
give
us
additional,
we
will
be
very
happy.
I
will
send
some
information
to
my
email
address,
so
we
will
be
in
contact
and.