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Lights, Camera, Action!
Jordan Bayne, award winning Filmmaker and Actor talks about the future of NFT and Film.
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A
I
have
a
background
in
technology
and
some
experience
with
with
the
production
Accounting
in
the
in
the
in
the
space.
So
my
goal
is
to
build
an
organization
that
will
that
will
fund
will
build
a
an
entire
production,
funded
payments,
etc,
etc.
Using
hyperledger
fabric
I
mean
that's
my
ultimate
goal,
so
this
is
a
project
that
I
just
recently
set
up
in
in
the
in
the
media
in
the
hyperledger
media
and
entertainment
special
interest
group.
A
So
this
was
done
prior
to
Dublin,
going
to
Dublin
back
in
in
September
to
the
global
forum,
hyperledger
global
forum
and
so
yeah,
so
we're
just
getting
our
feet
wet
on
that
front,
but
I
have
been
I've
been
pulling.
This
idea,
together
now
for
almost
three
years,
so
I've
got
a
lot
of
the
pieces
of
this
puzzle
sorted
out,
but
I'm
now
wanting
to
build
a
a
team
of
developers
and
people
in
the
industry
in
the
film
industry.
A
So
the
ultimate
goal
will
be
to
take
a
project
from
script
rights
to
the
very
end,
into
distribution
entirely
on
the
on
hyperledger
fabric.
So
that's
funding.
That's
that's
everything!
So
that's!
That's
it
now,
in
terms
of
the
other
folks,
on
our
on
our
Zoom.
Here,
we've
got
Thomas
who's.
Our
Gomez
is
our
hyperledger
go-to
guy
and
but
he's
spreading
himself
across
all
of
the
different.
The
different
Realms
and
I
see
David's
on
here
now
as
well.
A
David
is
these
are
all
these
were
hyperledger
people
but
they're
not
specific
to
the
media
and
entertainment
side
of
things,
but
they're
the
there
are.
There
are
our
our
go-to
people
at
hyperledger
who
have
given
us
this
opportunity
to
one
make
these
presentations
that
we've
invited
you
to
Jordan
and
also
you
know,
help
us
manage
our
our
our
projects,
which
which
they're
doing
a
fabulous
job.
The
other
folks
on
here
Giovanni
and
Vivek.
A
B
I
would
love
to
hear
from
anyone
who
wants
to
share
it's
very
easy
for
me
to
jump
in
and
present
I'm
I'm
doing
this
every
day.
Now,
like
five
times
a
day,
you
know,
and
and
as
you
know,
as
you
Brett,
you
probably
know,
I've
been
doing
these
panels
well
almost
for
years.
I
think
some
did
somebody
jump
on
and
they
want
to
just
introduce
themselves
because
I,
like
the
sort
of
the
the
it's
it's
lovely
to
know
who
we're
talking
to
it's
more.
B
C
A
Oh
sorry,
go
ahead.
Jordan
I'm,
just
going
to
suggest
for
Vic
I
hope
that
you
get
signed
up
on
the
the
link
that
I'll
put
the
I'll
put
a
link
in
the
kind
of
a
hamstrung
here
with
my
limited
capacity
and
Thomas.
Is
it
possible
that
you
could
put
up
the
links
for
the
antitrust
and
the
the
code
of
conduct,
as
well
as
a
link
to
our
media
and
entertainment
Sig?
A
A
C
C
I'll,
do
a
quick,
intro
hi
everyone.
My
name
is
Lay
I'm
from
New
York
City
I've
been
in
the
fintech
industry
for
about
five
years
and
I've
just
recently
gotten
into
the
blockchain
through
some
self-learning
and
attended
the
hyper
Ledger
forum
and
kind
of
got
wind
of
this
meeting
happening
and
wanted
to
join
and
learn
a
little
bit
more.
So
that's
why
I'm
here
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
to
know
all
you
guys
and
learning
something
new
today.
B
B
So
I
wanted
to
write
that
originally
to
act
it,
but
then
I
realized
I
really
just
wanted
to
direct
it.
All
so
I
started
writing
and
directing
only
to
also
discover
again
that
they're
were
again
very
few
opportunities
for
women
to
and
and
I'm
just
going
to
throw
out
the
statistic
to
just
give
you
an
idea.
B
95
of
all
films
are
are
directed
by
men
white
men,
very
particularly
so
five
percent
by
women
and
then
once
you
start
to
get
into
other
marginalized
and
underrepresented
communities,
it
becomes
less
and
less
and
less
and
less
and
less
so.
We
don't
see
representation
of
you
know
all
the
different
cultures
on
screen
and
that's
not
just
in
film.
B
That's
in
you
know,
in
television
and
things
like
that,
and
we've
seen
remarkable
change
over
the
last
decade,
which
has
been
great,
but
certainly
it's
still
not
equal
by
and
it's
still
a
struggle
for
underrepresented
communities
to
get
work
done,
especially
by
The
Gatekeepers,
so
in
2015
I
got
into
crypto
I,
like
many
people
had
heard
about
it.
But
I
was
like.
Oh
that's
a
gamer
thing,
I'm,
not
interested.
B
You
know,
I'm,
not
a
gamer
and
only
to
find
out
in
2015
wow,
there's
a
there's,
a
really
cool
element
here
of
self-sovereignty.
That
appeals
to
me
as
someone
who
struggled
as
an
artist
and
struggled
with
banks
and
and
I
was
like
I.
I
dig
this
so
by
2017.
I
was
speaking
mostly
about
at
a
few
blockchain
conferences,
mostly
about
you
know,
harnessing
the
power
of
media.
B
You
know
and
I
was
I
also
had
a
Charlie
Lee
under
contract
to
do
a
documentary
on
him,
but
I
I
found
it
very
difficult
to
get
people
to
understand
how
powerful
media
really
is
and
I
think.
A
lot
of
that
is
because
the
power
of
blockchain
and
and
the
developers
and
and
the
people
that
own
Bitcoin
at
that
time,
that's
the
the
the
Maxi
interest
was,
was
just
very
tunnel
vision
so
cut
to
you
know.
Last
you
know
the
pandemic,
which
changed
a
lot
of
people's
lives,
including
mine.
B
Again
again,
I
had
been
like,
you
know:
crypto
art,
whatever
in
2017.
when,
when
the
crypto
kitties
came
down,
the
pike
I
was
like.
Why
would
I
be
interested
in
that?
And
and
so
just
to
say
that
at
some
point
and
a
couple
of
Clubhouse
rooms,
it
started
to
click
for
me
and
then
I
realized.
Oh,
my
God.
This
is
going
to
be
an
absolute
Revolution
for
for
filmmakers.
B
When
I
mean
filmmakers,
I
mean
people
in
cinema,
and
so
I
I
started
the
nft
film
Squad
in
February
2021
and
literally
it
was
a
Barren
desert.
The
whole
point
of
starting
out
was
to
find
people
like-minded
people
who
could
see
that
this
was
a
revolution
and
while
nascent
in
in
the
way
that
we
could
use
it,
something
we
could
truly
build
and
build
a
better
future
for
Cinema
for
filmmakers.
B
So
you
know:
I
started
meeting
weekly
on
clubhouse
and
and
people
started
to
trickle
in
and
as
people
started
to
trickle.
In
you
know,
the
conversation
was
constantly
around
the
the
technology
constantly
around
our
limitations
and
just
trying
to
find
each
other
and
the
first
time
that
we
spotlighted
an
artist.
B
known
origin
like
50
Zora
250.
At
that
point,
so
I'm
talking
about
the
different
platforms
that
we
were
looking
at.
Where
we
could
you
know.
Where
can
we
put
our
art
and
of
course,
then
really
you
couldn't
truly
mint
on
the
blockchain.
You
were
minting
a
token
for
it
because
you
were
really
putting
it
on
ipfs.
B
B
2022
I
had
realized
during
this
process
that
someone
needed
to
actually
meant
an
entire
like
story,
because
most
people
most
of
the
the
people,
the
filmmakers,
were
like
okay,
I'll
put
like
one
scene
up,
so
they'd
put
up
a
a
scene,
but
I
was
like.
We
need
to
be
able
to
prove
that
that
this
that
we
can
tell
an
entire
story
here
so
I
minted
on
Zora,
which
is
again
an
ipfs
situation,
but
they
had
500
500
megabyte
file
size.
B
So
we
did
that
and
I'm
super
proud,
because
if
you
watch
it
on
Zora
and
it
streams
beautifully
on
Zora
it
it's
all
there,
you
we
didn't
lose
it,
and
so
that
was
amazing
because
he
was
able
to
bring
it
under
under
500
megabytes.
Now
the
reason
I
tell
you
all
this
is
because
these
are
still
some
of
the
the
limitations
we
you
know
in
the
in
as
the
filmmakers
and
then
Cinema
are
still
dealing
with
all
the
all
these
months
later.
B
But
what
also
happened
in
January
that
was
very
significant
and
and
push
the
movement
forward
for
filmmakers.
This
little
niche
part
of
web3
was
Julie,
Pacino
came
in
and
for
the
first
time,
I
saw
a
really
well
thought
out
nft
strategy
for
fundraising
your
for
your
feature
film.
But
you
know
this
could
apply
for
series.
B
B
That
nft
strategy
allowed
her
to
actually
be
in
production
she's
in
production
right
now,
so
she's
an
incredible
case
study.
Not
only
is
the
first
to
sell
out
and
to
fund
her
feature
film
with
with
an
nft
strategy,
but
also
you
know,
as
a
creator-led
community
and
the
utility
that
she
had,
as
has
for
her
for
her
community
and
the
fact
that
she's
on
set
now
making
a
film
with
her
community.
So
that
is
that
and
then
Miguel
Faust,
a
Spanish,
filmmaker
I
brought
him
on
the
nft
film
Squad
in
one
of
our
spaces.
B
After
he
does
this
right
and
he
gets,
and
this
is
where
it
gets:
hybrid
and
less
web
3
and
more
web
too,
but
gets
distribution.
And
you
know-
and
it
goes
out
into
the
world,
the
monies
that
will
come
back
to
the
project.
Fifty
percent
of
that
will
go
into
a
dow
and
then
the
community,
because
it's
always
about
the
community,
because
the
community
are
the
ones
that
funded
this
film,
we'll
go
back
into
a
Dao
and
the
Dao
will
then
be
able
to
choose
the
next
project
that
that
they
do
so.
B
B
The
first
person
that
that
I
met
was
beam
with
mihai,
krasnow
and
he's
the
he's
one
of
the
founders
of
beam,
and
it
was
really
the
first
like
here's,
a
possible
distribution
method.
So
we've
just
talked
about
funding
right
and
if
we
talk
about
like
going
back
to
January
my
my
motion
picture,
which
was
a
one
of
one
which
was
collected
immediately
by
Claire
silver,
because
it
was
historic
and
it's
in
her
Vault.
B
So
that's
one
of
one
piece
of
Fine
Art.
Then
we
have
Julia
Miguel
that
we're
doing
nft
fundraising
strategies,
but
now
we're
like
trying
to
solve
this
next
thing,
which
is
which
is
distribution
and
distribution
in
web
3,
where
the
Creator
actually
gets
the
majority
of
the
revenue
of
of
the
work
rather
than
having
Gatekeepers
that
one
as
a
creator
that
you
have
to
go
to
and
say,
hey
can
I
make
my
film
and
then
they
come
back
to
you
and
they
say.
B
B
For
you,
there's
also,
then,
who
came
in
around
the
same
time
was
like
a
company
like
first
flights:
three,
where
they
you
know
they
offer
like
a
crowdfunding
platform
and
they
bring
on
a
filmmaker
and
they
help
the
filmmaker
with
their
nft
strategy
and
things
like
that
and
then
there
recently
have
come
in.
You
know:
people
like
bingeable
and
again
benjable
is
like
a
pipeline,
a
distribution
pipeline,
very
powerful
technology,
and
they
have
partnered
with
decentralized
pictures.
B
B
We
realized
that
at
South
by
Southwest
a
lot
of
what
we
call
Legacy
Hollywood
with
their
big
money
and
their
big
bags
were
coming
in,
but
they
had
no
idea,
no
idea
what
the
core
ethos
of
web3
was
no
idea
what
what
an
nft
was,
even
though
they
were
dropping
nfts.
They
had
no
idea.
They
were
just
trying
to
figure
out.
B
How
do
we
keep
the
system
that
has
worked
for
us
in
place
but
make
them
think
that
we're
we're
you
know
part
of
this
new
cool
Trend,
and
they
don't
realize
that
that
there's,
the
the
one
very
cool
thing
about
this
really
cool
trend
is
if
you're
web
three,
and
you
see
someone
coming
in
with
web
2
ethos,
you
pretty
much
are
not
going
to
be
accepted,
but
the
but
the.
But
the
important
thing
was
you
realize
that
they
have
a
lot
of
money
and
they
could.
B
They
could
make
a
lot
of
noise
and
there's
a
lot
of
people,
the
normies.
You
know
not
the
People
Like
Us,
who
are
in
this
so
early,
but
the
normies
don't
know,
and
so
they
they're
interested
they're
curious.
They
come
in
and
we
and
and
my
thing
was-
we
started
this
to
to
to
build
a
better
future
for
filmmakers
for
creators,
so
we
have
to
protect
what
we're
what
we're
building
so
we
sort
of
grouped
together
as
a
coalition
and
with
the
squad.
B
You
know
we
created
a
movement
and
that
movement
we
branded
is
film
three
and
so
on.
March
20th
I
dropped
that
hashtag
in
Twitter.
For
the
first
time
in
in
relation
to
this
movement
and
and
on
March
23rd,
we
dropped
it
in
my
spaces,
this
is
the
movement.
This
is
is
what
we're
doing.
This
is
bringing
us
all
together
and
from
there
again
it
took
on
a
life
of
its
own.
B
That
was
March
by
by
May
16th,
when
I
was
at
the
Cannes
Film
Festival
and
I
was
already
in
invited
to
speak
on
two
panels.
I
got
invited
to
speak
on
a
film
three
panel
and
I
was
like
what
and
I
was
like.
Do
you
even
know
where
film
3
started
and
they
were
like
No
And
I
was
like
I'm
here
right
here
with
me.
So
from
there
then
Monaco
had
a
film
three
panel
and
then
it's
just
it's
exploded.
I
mean
in
our
small
little
ecosystem.
B
It's
truly
actually
exploded
globally,
I
see
I,
see
it
everywhere.
I
see
it
from
people
that
I've
never
even
heard
of
coming
into
the
ecosystem
and
all
around
the
world.
But
the
thing
about
film
three
excuse
me
is
it's
a
movement.
It's
an
aspiration
right,
we're
not
there.
Yet
we
all
know
that
web3
is
not
there.
Yet.
B
It's
also
an
aspiration
of
what
we
want
in
a
better
world-
and
film
three
is,
you
know,
is
a
playoff
of
off
of
web
3,
because
the
ethos
are
the
same
right:
A
Better
World
for
for
creators
and
for
us
it's
a
better
future
for
Cinema,
and
so
we
have
been
laying
the
the
foundation
of
that
now.
You
know
all
these
months,
it's
almost
20
months
for
me
just
day
in
and
day
out
and
and
basically
since
since
May
March.
B
Basically,
since
March
from
may,
we
then
went
to
New
York
and
we
had
you
know
a
huge
party
at
NYC
nft
talking
about
this
onboarding
filmmakers,
and
this
is
what
we
do
at
the
squad.
Our
big
thing
has
been
amplifying
you
know
the
projects
that
come
in
yesterday
we
did
macroverse
wow
what
a
very
cool
project
they've
been
building
really
stealth
and
they're
doing
they're
part
of
Comic
Con
this
weekend
and
I'm
speaking
on
one
of
their
panels.
B
B
You
know
for
distribution
in
web3
for
even
more
you
know,
nft
strategy,
super
unique
I,
don't
think,
we've
even
scratched
the
surface
on
on
what
this
is
going
to
look
like
next
year,
so
to
bring
you
up
to
date
right
now,
you
know
again
the
squad
we
meet
four
times
a
week.
We
we
amplify
projects
coming
in
and
just
making
sure
that
that
people
know
who
who's
here,
who's
working
in
the
space,
who's,
building
and
and
then
we're
you
know
it.
B
A
lot
of
this
is
onboarding
and
education,
and
that's
really
really
important
because,
as
you
know,
in
the
media,
nfts
and
web3
have
a
bad,
rap
and
I
think
that
it's
unfortunate
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
because
truthfully,
this
is
the
most
Innovative
thing,
the
most
revolutionary
thing
for
for
filmmakers.
You
know
for
us
to
again
be
able
to
to
make
Creator
a
creator-led
community.
Just
think
about
that
like.
B
You
know
it's
funny
that
what's
his
name,
the
the
director
of
three
Billboards,
he
said
the
other
day
he's
like
no
one
wants
to
make
sad
movies
anymore
and
while
I
can
kind
of
understand
that
I
am
actually
someone
who
cut
their
teeth
on
quote,
unquote,
sad
movies
and
and
for
me,
they're,
just
meaningful
stories
and
I.
Think
it's
really
important
that
we
see
representation.
B
The
reason
that
is
important
is
because
she
got
pushed
back
first
of
all
from
Hollywood.
They
were
like
how
dare
you
and
she's,
like
you,
never
said
to
Game
of
Thrones?
How
dare
you
only
only
hire
men
and
again
the
Game
of
Thrones?
Pretty
much
did
that
for
a
decade,
but
what
she,
the
opportunity
that
she
gave
to
women
were
the
opportunities
that
were
not
being
given
and
were
being
gate
kept.
B
They
are
your
in-house
amplifiers.
They
are
your
marketing,
Hub
and
they're
out
there
telling
everybody
about
it,
and
then
the
third
really
cool
thing
about
a
creator-led
community
is
that
your
community,
who
has
wanted
to
see
that
project
come
to
life,
has
Amplified
and
is
amplifying
that
project
becomes
your
audience
as
well,
so
there.
This
is
just
this
is
the
difference
between
this
and
Kickstarter,
and
certainly
the
difference
between
what's
going
on
in
Legacy
Hollywood
that
they
have
not
harnessed
this
power.
B
So
it's
the
power
of
your
community
and
that's
why
we
say:
creator-led
communities
can
be
more
as
powerful
or
maybe
one
day
more
powerful
than
Studios,
and
then
the
other
thing
is,
of
course,
is
that
you,
you
know
if
you
want,
you
still
hold
on
to
your
IP,
and
so
you
control
your
IP
and
you
haven't
given
that
up
and
therefore
the
the
majority
of
the
the
revenue
comes
back
to
the
Creator
and,
however,
the
Creator
in
the
community.
Have
you
know
done
that?
It's
all
very
unique.
B
We
are
throwing
the
inaugural
film
through
Summit,
in
Los
Angeles
in
two
weeks.
Two
weeks
from
tomorrow,
we
open
we're
mirroring
with
a
really
powerful
documentary
out
of
Dubai
and
also
David
Bianchi
is
going
to
be
opening
the
entire.
This
is
perfect
because
David
was
the
first
art
filmmaker
that
we
we
spotlighted
and
he's
opening
up
the
the
whole
Summit
with
a
live
performance
of
I
can't
breathe,
which
was
that
that
particular
motion
picture
nft
that
he
minted
and
then
the
next
day
we
had
panels
with
people
from
Legacy
Hollywood.
B
You
know
one
of
the
panels
is
building
a
bridge
from
Legacy
Hollywood
to
web3,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
experienced
people
coming
in
from
Legacy
Hollywood
who
are
in
web
3
going
to
be
talking
about
it.
We
have
a
fundraising
distribution
panels.
You
know
how
to
be.
You
know
a
strong
creator-led,
Community
I
mean
again.
A
lot
of
this
is
about
onboarding
and
and
a
lot
of
times
like
right
now,
I've,
probably
possibly
overwhelmed
you
guys
with
information
I'm,
not
giving
out
this
much
information
on
those
panels.
B
B
But
again
the
the
the
mission
here
is
to
onboard
the
mission
is
to
keep
building
out
this
ecosystem.
This
movement,
you
know.
We
really
believe
that
film
three
is
the
next
wave
of
Cinema
and
if
you
take
a
look
at
Cinema
historically,
you
know
when
it
started
out,
it
was
silent,
Motion,
Pictures,
and
then
you
suddenly.
You
know
it
was
all
Studio
things
and
then
the
French
New
Wave
came
around
and
then
American
zootrope
in
1969.
B
That
was
the
American
New
Wave,
then
Sundance
and
all
of
that
kind
of
really
started
to
hit
his
stride.
You
know
in
the
late
80s
mid
80s
late
80s,
with
good
machine
and
and
killer
films
and,
and
that
was
the
beginning
of
the
American
Indie
independent
film,
and
then
we
really
believe
that
film
3
and
this
movement
inside
web
3
and
this
technology
makes
this
the
next
wave
of
Cinema.
So
that's
kind
of
I
told
you
I
could
really
talk
and
that's
kind
of
the
that's
a
story
and
I'm
sticking
to
it.
A
That's
pretty
amazing,
you're
right,
there's
a
lot
about
there.
Jordan.
Thank
you,
I.
Think
of
maybe
a
few
questions
here,
but
I
have
a
couple.
If
you
don't
mind
I'm
interested
in
and
what
your
thoughts
are
on
the
whole
concept
of
disintermediating,
the
we'll
call
them
Legacy
Hollywood
and
what
parts
of
Hollywood
or
Legacy
Hollywood
are
really
going
to
be
necessary
for
the
new
wave
of
nft,
the
new
filmmaker,
the
the
new
industry
that
is
being
built
film.
Three.
B
Community,
oh
my
God
storytelling
number
one
storytelling.
So
if
you
bring
in
someone
as
experienced
as
Bob
bacon,
which
we
are
so
lucky,
Bob
bacon
has
come
to
web3,
with
a
full
like
40
years
of
experience
as
the
vice
president
of
Disney
and
the
vice
president
production
of
Paramount,
and
he
gets
it.
He
sees
how
beautiful
this
is.
So
his
company
is
virtue
animation
and
they
are
coming
in
with
experience,
experience
and
storytelling.
So
here's
the
thing
you
can
have
a
lot
of
new
movements
and
listen
I'm,
not
gonna.
B
This
is
not
throwing
shade
on
Christian
music
I
just
happen
to
have
grown
up
around
a
lot
of
people
that
are
involved
in
it.
So
just
when
you,
when
you
saw
it
as
like
a
as
a
as
an
industry,
most
people
didn't
care.
If
the
music
was
good,
they
didn't
care.
They
just
liked
the
fact
that
it
was
Christian
and
and
and
I'm
a
big
believer.
It's
a
little
bit
like
independent
film
as
well.
Sorry,
but
like
when
Independent
films
started.
B
B
Are
your
friends
just
and
family
and
your
parents,
like
Yay
Johnny,
made
a
film
I
mean
literally
someone
wrote
me
the
other
day
and
she
was
like
hey
I
haven't
talked
to
you
in
20
years,
but
my
son
and
I
just
made
a
film
and
I'm
like
yeah
good
for
you
and
and
I
don't
mean
that
to
be
like
a
a
I'm,
not
trying
to
be
an
I'm
just
saying
that
story
is
always
going
to
be
what
matters
and
you
have
to
for
me.
You
always
have
to
serve
something
bigger
than
yourself
and
I.
B
Don't
really
mean
that
just
as
a
director
I
mean
that's
the
reason
why,
when
I
became
a
director
and
I
realized,
wow
I
can't
put
myself
in
front
of
the
camera
and
behind
the
camera,
because
I
don't
know
what
I'm
doing
behind
the
camera.
I
need
to
do
one
of
these
things,
and
do
it
really
well
so
I
can
serve
the
story.
B
So
I
think
that
that's
where,
where
when
Legacy
Hollywood
is
coming
in
and
they're
coming
in
with
the
web
through
ethos-
and
that
is
really
important
that
they
understand,
but
they
bring
enormous
experience
and
the
value
of
that
experience.
The
value
of
what
a
good
story
is
and
good
storytelling
and
crafting
a
good
story.
Now,
I'm,
not
saying
that
I
mean
we
can
really
talk
about
how
Hollywood
may
not
know
how
to
craft
a
good
story
anymore,
because
all
they
do
is
use.
B
You
know
used
up
IP,
but
but
truthfully
there
are
plenty
of
people
there
that
do
know
how
to
and
certainly
know
how
to
do
it
better
more
efficiently
than
a
lot.
Let's
say
people
like
that
come
in
and
do
a
pfp
project
and
they
have
no
idea
what
they're
doing
they
don't
know
how
to
tell
a
story
because
they
started
with
with
a
cartoon
picture.
B
First
and
they're,
like
oh,
my
God,
we
got
to
write
a
story
rather
than
the
story
was
written
with
that
cartoon
picture
in
mind,
like
the
story
came
first
and
then
the
characters,
if
that
makes
any
sense
so
for
me
story
is,
is
invaluable.
It's
the
thing
that
that
Legacy
Hollywood
will
bring
and
money
they
could.
They
have
a
lot
of
money,
so
you
know
if
they
want
to
put
that
legitimately.
Like
DCP,
you
know
they
bridge
that
they
they
come
from
Legacy,
but
they
also
come
from
revolutionaries.
B
You
know,
Francis
Ford
Coppola
could
not
get
his
films
made,
which
is
why
American
Zoe
Trope
was
was
built,
so
I
think
that
they
come
with
it
with
great
leadership
with
a
web
three
ethos,
but
they
also
actually
have
some
money
so
that
they
can
really
help
move
this
movement
forward.
If
that,
if
that
answers
your
question,
it's
a
great
question
and
I
think
you're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
different
answers
from
a
lot
of
different
people.
A
Yeah
that
great
answer
I
see
exactly
what,
where
you're
coming
from
on,
that,
we
drill
down
a
little
bit
to
to
the
business
side
of
Hollywood
I'm
interested
in
your
thoughts
on
on
IP
and
how
we're
at
how
we're
disintermediating
the
the
legal
side
of
of
contracts
and
and
IP,
etc,
etc,
as
well
as
how
are?
How
are
investors
looking
at
nfts?
How
are
Tax,
Strategies
tax
incentive
strategies
being
managed?
A
A
A
B
I
I
have
encountered
so
many
really
cool
and
Innovative,
because
I
I
Spotlight
them.
We
have
again,
we
have
spaces
four
times
a
week,
so
you
can
only
imagine
I'm
I'm
getting
so
much
information
from
so
many
bigger
brains
than
mine
every
week
that
it's
mind-boggling
so
to
try
to
answer
your
your
question
with
IP
look.
B
Hollywood
is
going
to
fight
tooth
and
nail
to
hold
on
to
IP,
because
that's
the
money,
that's
where
the
money
is,
but
they're
gonna
have
to
capitulate
at
some
point
to
a
degree
and
I,
don't
know
what
that's
going
to
look
like,
because
it's
going
to
either
look
you're
either
going
to
be
Blockbuster
or
you're
going
to
be
Netflix.
New
technology
comes
in
and
you
adapt
or
you
don't
and
you
die.
So
what
that
looks
like
I,
don't
know
what
I
do
see.
B
What
I
have
seen
is
a
lot
of
projects
coming
in
already
with
VC
money.
Now,
how
do
I
feel
about
that?
Not
you
know
not
one
way
or
the
other
at
the
moment,
because
look
again
back
to
sort
of
like
representation.
A
lot
of
the
money,
that's
already
in
nft
or
web3,
is
being
held
in
big
bags
by
a
lot
of
white
guys
because
they
were
the
ones
that
were
in
Bitcoin
early,
and
so
we
do
have
sort
of
that.
B
Still,
you
know
so
their
interests
are
going
to
be
in
mostly
in
the
same
things
that
they
were
before
it's
Tribal
and
we're
just
trying
to
you
know
say
that
there
are
not
say,
create
a
world
where,
if
you
are
let's
say,
Latasha
Latasha
is
a
hip-hop
artist
that
wasn't
doing.
You
know
really
great
with
her
record
deal
or
streaming,
and
she
came
into
web
3
and
is
an
incredible
leader
has
sold
so
many
music
videos,
but
the
community.
B
The
black
community
has
really
rallied
behind
her
she's,
a
great
leader,
she's,
a
terrific
artist
and
and
again
it's
a
perfect
case
study
for
if
you,
if
your
tribe,
wants
to
see
themselves
and
see
themselves
beautifully,
they
will
come
in
and
support
you
and
so
there's
this.
You
know
they
don't
have
to
have
the
white
guy's
big
bags
because
they
are
carving
out
their
community
and
their
artwork
and
seeing
it
there
and
paying
for
it
and
and
making
sure
that
that
that
their
artists
are
elevated
and
I.
B
B
There
are
people
coming
in
building
the
rails,
they're
trying
to
build
the
rails
here
for
artists
and
and
film
three
and
using
the
word
film.
Three
and
you
know,
I
keep
a
I'm,
not
gonna
name
drop
any
of
them
right
now,
but
believe
me,
we
have
an
eye
on
them
because
you
have
to
move
with
web3
ethos,
even
with
your
VC
money.
B
Bring
the
BC
money
in,
but
ultimately
remember
that
that
IP
is
up
to
the
Creator
right
and
I,
really
beg
creators
do
not
give
up
your
IP
do
not
give
up
your
IP
it's
very
hard,
because
a
filmmaker
wants
to
make
a
film
and
if
someone's
like
Yay,
you
know
we'll.
Let
you
make
a
film,
but
we're
going
to
take.
70
of
your
IP
30
is
better
than
one
percent
I'm
like
come
on.
B
You
know
we
gotta,
we
gotta
create
a
better
world
and
not
let
that
sort
of
Legacy
Hollywood
web
3
kind
of
you
know
exploiting
the
artist
keep
happening
so
VC
money's
coming
in
some
of
it
seems
to
be
working.
Okay-
and
you
know,
as
far
as
like
the
blockchain
technology,
I
mean
it's
going
to
be
even
in
2017.
I
talked
about
this.
You
know
if
you're,
if
you're
sending
food
to
Africa-
and
this
was
a
case
study
that
was
in
a
TED
talk
it.
B
You
know
the
blockchain
is
incredible
for
for
being
able
to
timestamp
where
that
product
goes
so
that
it
doesn't
get
taken
onto
the
black
market
right.
So
there
are
many
ways
in
in
Hollywood
Hollywood's
known
for
his
Creative
Accounting
again,
which
is
why,
if
you
sold
your
IP
and
they're
like
yay,
we're
going
to
give
you
like
one
or
two
points
on
the
back
end,
you
never
saw
those
one
of
two
points
because
of
that
Creative
Accounting
this
way
it
they
can't
get
around
it.
B
A
B
A
We're
still
in
we're
still
in
the
mid
90s
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
what
the
technology
is
able
to
do
for
us,
and
they
I
completely
agree
with
you
that
there
are
a
lot
of
the
immediate.
The
immutability
of
the
blockchain
is
going
to
provide
a
lot
of
protections
and
it's
going
to
provide
a
lot
of
confidence
to
any
of
the
activities
that
happen
on
chain.
I,
don't
have
any
more
questions
and
we're
we're.
A
C
I
had
a
quick
question.
Thank
you,
Jordan
you're,
a
breath
of
knowledge,
so
it's
cool
to
thank
you.
I
know
concept.
Distribution
is
one
side,
but
I'm
super
curious
about,
like
the
decentralization
of
the
content
creation
side
of
things
so
like
basically
like
allowing
creators
to
blend
and
mix
and
match
you
know
across
IP
and
I
was
listening
to
a
podcast
where
Rob
mcclaney
of
It's
Always
Sunny
I
was
talking
about
his
his
company
Adam.
That
he's
building
to
kind
of
help.
B
C
B
Question
brings
me
to
several
several
that
I
know
of
so.
If
you
know
these
guys,
Fringe
and
The
Fringe
Drifters
is
a
project
franchise
product
project.
They
they
are
an
incredible
project,
so
they
actually
came
from
Legacy
Hollywood,
and
this
is
why
they
do
such
an
amazing
job.
They're
independent,
Legacy
Hollywood.
Let's
say
so:
they
sold
their
film
Prospect
to
Netflix,
and
then
they
didn't
here's
the
two
pain
points
for
them:
one.
B
You
can
come
in
there
and
and
become
a
part
of
writing
the
lore
writing
the
screenplays
and,
of
course
again
it
takes
Craftsmen
that
will
that
may
have
experience
it
will
level
those
things
up.
We
hope
so
the
story
is
is
told
so
I
don't
know
if
this
answers
your
question,
but
this
cross
this
this
creating
of
community.
This
decentralization,
this
being
like.
B
Look
if
you're
part
of
the
community,
you
can
come
in
and
do
this
and
do
I
see
you
know
again,
like
virtue
they
have
literally
taken
yetis
and
and
and
said
you
know,
Kevin
and
and
several
other
of
these
IPS.
So
this
is
really
like
a
collaboration
and
they're.
You
know
they're
creating
story
around
it
so
and
the
same
thing
like
with
with
non-fungible
films.
They
actually
license
a
bunch
of
board
a
yacht
club
to
be
in
their
animation
stories.
So
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
happening,
I
mean
I
can't
even
begin.
C
C
B
C
C
B
A
Fantastic
Jordan
I'm
so
pleased
that
we
were
able
to
have
you
and
it
was
awesome
and
very
informative.
I
I
look
forward
to
our
next
encounter
and
I'm
I'm
following
The
nft
Summit
in
La
I
can't
attend,
but
I'm
definitely
watching
how
that's
how
that
unfolds.
But
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time
for
us
and
thank
you
everyone
here
this
has
been.
The
recorder
will
be
on
YouTube
I'll.