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From YouTube: IETF96-NEWCOMERS-20160717-1300
Description
NEWCOMERS meeting session at IETF96
2016/07/17 1300
A
A
B
We're
good
to
go
okay.
This
is
probably
the
most
newcomers
I've
seen
in
the
news,
Cameron's
briefing
in
quite
a
long
period
of
time,
so
welcome.
My
name
is
Mike
st.
John's.
Are
we
good
in
the
back?
Okay
thanks,
my
name's
Mike
st.
John's
I
am
in
giving
the
newcomers
tutorial,
also
known,
as
would
you
like
instructions?
B
This
is
my
first
time
doing
this.
On
the
other
hand,
I've
been
dealing
with
the
IETF
for
the
entire
thirty
years
of
it
I
happen
to
be
the
person
who
has
the
dubious
honour
of
attending
more
of
these
anybody
else.
So
far,
one
of
these
days
I'll
die,
and
somebody
will
take
over
that,
but
you
know
I'm
intending
at
least
make
to
make
it
to
100
meetings.
B
I
put
this
up
mainly
because
you're
going
to
be
seeing
this
in
every
single
session
you
sit
in
okay,
you
don't
have
to
read
through
it
now
it's
available
and
you
can
read
it
there.
The
note
well
is
basically
telling
you
that
when
you're
here,
you're
pretty
much
in
public
and
what
you're
talking
about
here
is
a
contribution
of
the
IETF
so
be
aware
of
what
you're
talking
about
when
you're
talking
about
it.
If
you've
got
things
that
are
company,
confidential,
go
someplace
else
and
talk
about
them,
they're,
not
in
not
in
the
open
sessions.
B
This
session
is
all
about
giving
you
information
that
is
immediately
useful
to
you
in
this
meeting.
It's
not
the
history
of
the
IETF.
There's
lots
of
places
to
get
that
or
you
can
buy
one
of
the
old
guys,
a
beer
and
will
tell
you
what
you
want
to
know.
It
is
also
not
how
would
you
write
an
RFC
or
a
standard
again
other
places
to
go
throughout
the
entire
presentation?
You're
gonna
be
seeing
QR
codes.
B
This
is
something
crying
I,
don't
know
whether
or
not
will
make
any
sense
if
you're
sitting
in
the
audience,
you
can
take
a
picture
of
that
and
get
right
to
the
link
or
it's
scannable
from
your
from
your
paper
copy
as
well.
So
in
this
particular
case,
this
goes
to
the
RFC
editor
website.
It
may
or
may
not
be
useful
for
you,
one
of
the
things
for
new
attendees.
Is
you
sometimes
get
overwhelmed
with
everything?
That's
going
on.
B
Give
you
a
little
bit
of
hint
of
what
we'd
like
to
see
from
you
in
terms
of
etiquette
inside
meetings
and
working
group
sessions
and
I'll.
Tell
you
a
little
bit
about
what
working
groups
are.
Birds
of
feathers
sections
are
point
out.
Some
useful
people
mainly
I'm,
going
to
be
decoding
some
of
the
dots
for
you
and
talk
about
documents
and
tools
coming
out
coming
out
of
your
head
by
the
time
all
is
done.
B
B
This
place
the
ietf
started
as
and
operations
an
engineering
organization
for
the
Department
of
Defense
National,
Science,
Foundation,
Department
of
Energy
and
NASA,
in
putting
together
the
beginnings
of
the
Internet,
the
NASA
science,
internet,
ARPANET,
MILNET
and
those
pieces
about
meeting
10:00.
We
turned
into
a
standards
organization,
so
we've
been
around
here
for
quite
a
long
time.
We've
been
doing
this
for
about
thirty
years.
The
IHF
consists
of
many
many
many
working
groups
generally
organized
in
two
areas.
B
These
are
the
current
sets
of
areas
applications
in
real
time,
general
internet
operations,
management,
routing
security
and
transport.
That's
just
administrative,
but
if
you're
doing
something
chances
are
the
working.
The
working
group
that
you're
working
on
we'll
have
other
working
groups
in
that
same
area
that
you
might
be
interested
in,
so
use
that
maybe
as
sort
of
a
selector
for
what
you
want
to
go
and
see
most
of
our
standards,
work
is
done
in
the
working
groups.
The
working
groups
are
semi-autonomous,
they
work
they
work
under
the
guidance
of
the
area
directors.
B
The
ITF
is
an
organized
like
I,
said
an
organized
activity
of
the
I
sock.
So
is
the
internet
architecture
board,
which
you
may
have
also
heard
about
I'm,
not
gonna.
Tell
you
any
more
about
these
guys.
It's
in
the
organizational
information
that
I'm
gonna
point
you
at
I'm
just
be
aware
that
besides
the
IETF
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
going
on
here
and
we
need
a
bigger
room
next
time.
B
Okay,
so
most
of
these
details
are
not
important
to
your
meeting
attendance
today
by
the
way,
if
at
any
time,
I'm
gonna
hold
questions
until
the
end
of
the
session.
If
at
any
time
you
can't
hear
me
or
I
am
talking
too
fast,
please,
you
know
gesture
to
speak
like
wildly,
and
let
me
know,
what's
going
on
I,
don't
mind,
you
know,
slowing
down.
I
am
fortunately
not
as
bad
as
some
other
people
in
here
who
you.
We
actually
have
a
term
milah
ecker,
which,
if
you've
ever
met
Eric
Rescorla.
B
Okay,
so
meetings
right
now
are
running
about
thousands
of
1,500
people
for
every
one
of
the
sessions
that
happens
three
times
a
year.
We've
been
as
high
as
about
2,400
during
the
IETF
during
the.com
boom
we've
been
as
low
as
12
when
we
got
started,
I
think
the
second
meeting
we
had
in
a
conference
room
that
was
it
so
within
the
IETF
we've
got
a
bunch
of
organized
events.
The
working
group
sessions-
that's
the
most
most
of
what's
going
to
be
going
on
here
and
that's
the
most.
B
What
you'll
see
people
working
in
a
few
birds
of
the
feather
sessions?
I'll
explain
what
birds
with
other
sessions
are
a
little
bit
later:
I
RTS
sessions,
internet
research,
task
force,
research
group
sessions
again
I'll
explain
a
little
bit
more
of
that
later
area-wide
sessions,
almost
every
single
one
of
those
areas
I
mentioned
before,
has
a
area
Directorate
meeting
in
in
this.
In,
in
this
meeting
space
and,
for
example,
security
area
advisory
group
useful
place.
B
B
You'll
be
able
to
see
what's
going
on
social
events,
in
addition
to
the
the
the
Welcome
Reception
and
bits
and
bytes
and
various
other
things
you,
as
newcomers
are
invited
to
a
social
event
that
I'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
later,
hackathon
Co
sprints,
that's
mostly
going
to
be
done
by
the
end
of
today.
Those
are
people
working
on
tools
for
the
IETF.
B
B
Finally,
the
agenda
is
your
friend:
I,
probably,
should
start
almost
should
I'm
still
working
on
the
organization
in
this
thing,
so
this
may
move
up
front.
Okay,
this
is
there's
two
different.
There's
a
couple
different
versions
of
the
agenda.
Your
the
QR
code
points
the
first
one
of
these
things.
Please
go
look
at
it
all.
The
information
that
has
been
put
together
for
a
given
working
group
is
available
through
the
agenda.
It'll
tell
you
what
everything
is
where
everything
is.
Whatever
other
thing,
that's
really
useful.
B
There
is
an
app
there's,
an
app
for
the
IETF.
Please
go
to
the
Apple
App
Store
or
to
the
Android
equivalent
I,
guess,
Google
Play,
it's
available
there.
It's
free
use
it
on.
You
have
to
basically
download
the
data
for
each
meeting,
but
it
it's
always
it's
available
and
it
usually
has
things
like
maps
online
where
you
need
to
go.
It
has
all
the
same
information
that
you
get
from
here:
okay,
just
for
curiosity's
sake.
How
many
people
here
have
worked
in
a
standards,
development
organizations?
B
It's
not
the
IETF,
put
your
hands
up,
okay,
not
too
bad.
You
don't
have
a
lot
to
relearn
or
unlearn
for
us
I
ain't.
You
have
a
little
bit
different
than
every
other
organization
that
I
and
I've
worked.
I've
worked
with
a
number
of
SD
those.
We
are
very
informal
about
how
things
do
individual
participants
you're
all
here,
not
as
people
being
sent
from
your
company
to
represent
your
company.
We
think
of
you
as
you,
not
as
your
company,
not
as
your
organization,
not
as
your
country.
B
So
if
you
bring
the
ideas
here,
the
ideas
we
want
to
hear
are
your
ideas.
Okay,
we
have
no
formal
government
role,
although
people
keep
trying
to
make
that
happen
sometimes
and
we're
all
about
having
the
best
thing
win
in
the
market.
So
our
standards
tend
to
be
about
what
works,
not
about
what
somebody
wants
to
sell,
hopefully
by
the
time
it
works.
We
want
to
sell
it.
So
we
are
all
focused
on
internet
technologies.
B
We
don't
do
anything
below
the
IP
layer,
except
for
small
little
things
like
MPLS,
and
we
don't
do
anything
above
the
above
the
sort
of
we
sort
of
reach
into
the
application
layer.
A
little
bit
so
you'll
hear
people
say
yeah,
it's
not
scope
for
us,
just
believe
it
and
then
go
and
figure
out
why
they
said
it.
Traditional
stos,
formal,
voting,
you're
going
to
be
a
national
member
or
organizational
member
almost
exclusively
good
example.
Iso
international
standards
organization,
you
vote
by
country.
Okay,
we
don't
vote
rarely
individuals
treaty
based.
B
Sometimes
the
standards
that
you
put
together
in
a
regular
standards.
Development
organization
are
mandated
for
adoption.
You
have
to
use
them
if
you're
going
to
be
working
with,
say
government
or
with
or
with
an
international
company
or
something
along
those
lines
and
the
the
standards
are
all
over
the
place.
They
are
the
number
of
threads
on
a
screw
metal
tolerances.
The
cop
there's
a
standard
someplace
around
there
there's
a
standard
for
making
fruitcakes.
You
know
things
like
that.
We
don't
do.
Okay,
if
you've
been
involved
in
other
standards
or
development
organization,
take
a
breath.
B
B
Sorry,
this
has
happened.
It
hasn't
happened
in
a
while.
We
are
very
informal.
We
do,
but
we
do
have
people
here
who
show
up
in
ties
occasionally,
usually
they
stop
doing
it
after
a
while
there's
a
few
people
that
still
come
here
and
ties
it's
okay,
but
don't
be
surprised
if,
if
I'm
sitting
up
here
in
shorts
and
a
t-shirt
next
time,
it's
just
the
way.
The
thing
is
very
smart
group
of
people
very
opinionated.
It's
the
way.
It
is
it's
a
little
bit
like.
B
Sometimes
it's
a
little
bit
like
standards
by
combat
we
try
and
avoid
those
types
of
things,
but
be
aware
that
we
are
good
technical
people,
not
necessarily
good
people,
people,
okay.
So
if
you're,
in
a
conversation
with
somebody
and
they're
being
very
forthright
about
their
opinions,
it's
not
that
they're
trying
to
be
rude.
It's
this!
It's
just!
This
is
the
way
they
they
are
not
only
here
and
probably
back
racking
their
and
their
home
organizations
or
their
home
companies,
mostly
they're,
not
trying
to
be
rude.
B
Okay,
I
can
point
out
the
people
occasionally
who
are
trying
to
be
rude.
Yeah
they're,
not
here
Hey.
We
have
a
culture,
occasionally
people
come
in
and
expect
their
culture
to
be
our
culture.
It's
not
that
over
time,
your
impact
on
the
organization
will
change
what
we
are,
but
it's
not
going
to
happen
overnight
so
be
aware.
You
may
have
to
do
some
adaptation
as
you
come
in
and
just
pay
attention
to
the
signs
and
signals
and
learn
about
how
we
do
things
if
you
don't
like
it
feel,
free
to
help
us
change
now.
B
The
last
one
down
here
the
last
comment
down
here:
dumb
ideas,
forcefully
presented
or
still
dumb
ideas.
One
of
the
things
that's
happened
from
time
to
time,
especially
with
organizations
who
are
new
to
us,
Nonnie,
not
just
the
people
with
the
organizations
that
are
new
to
us.
They
come
in
with
a
lot
of
people
trying
to
vote
their
idea
into
existence.
Okay
doesn't
work
here.
B
Okay,
if
it's
a
dumb
idea,
the
technical
people
are
going
to
look
at
it
and
go
it's
a
dumb
idea,
and
even
if
you're
pushing
hard,
it's
not
going
to
make
it
in
the
process.
Good
technical
arguments
are
what
this
organization
are
all
about.
So
when
you
go
into
your
meetings,
please
think
about
what
the
technical
argument
is
not
what
the
political
or
economic
argument
or
what
your
boss
tells
you
to
tell
us
unless
he
heads
good
technical
arguments,
of
course,
so
we
develop
standards
and
that's
just
about
it.
B
B
We
know
vote
first,
we
started
vote,
but
we
don't
vote
it,
the
ietf
beliefs
and
something
called
rough
consensus,
and
what
that
means
is
that
we
do
not
need
perfect
consensus
in
a
decision
to
go
forward
on
a
standard.
We
need
rough
consensus,
which
means
that
we've
got
a
good
number
of
the
people
who
say
this
is
a
good
idea
and
we've
considered
all
the
other.
We
are
the
all
the
other
issues.
B
All
other
issues
are
addressed,
but
they're
not
necessarily
brought
into
the
final
solution.
If
you
have
we're
sitting
in
a
meeting
our
working
group
here
and
you
start
hearing
humming
and
it's
not
incipient
feedback,
okay,
that's
a
way
of
establishing
our
judging
consensus
work.
You
know
so,
for
example,
I
would
say
to
you
guys.
B
Okay,
am
I
more
to
the
left
or
the
right
of
the
center
of
the
room
with
the
left
people
hum,
and
then
it
would
be
judging
consensus
and
I
could
be
something
like
right
in
the
middle
and
you
just
sort
of
be
trying
to
guess
where
I
was
so
you'll
hear
those
hums
happen
from
time
to
time.
If
you
know
what
you're
doing,
if
you're,
if
you
actually
are
familiar
with
the
clock,
the
question
feel
free
to
join
in.
If
you're,
not,
please
don't.
It
just
confuses
things.
B
Most
of
this
is
pretty
basic.
We
want
you
to
be
kind
to
everybody
else,
and
we
want
to
be
kind
to
you.
We
do
want
you
to
introduce
yourself
if
you
have
a
question
and
comment
suggestion
walk
up
to
somebody
talk
to
them.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
become
a
part
of
this,
the
IETF
and
the
way
you
do
it
is
by
making
yourself
known
and
by
making
yourself,
knowing
in
a
good
way,
speaking
of
a
bad
way,
don't
harass
other
participants,
you
know,
feel
free
to
harass
yourself.
B
You
know,
insulting
yourself
is
fine,
insulting
other
people
in
a
way
that
tries
to
get
them
not
to
be
doing
the
standards.
Job
is
just
not
not
right.
This
is
the
anti
harassment
policy.
If
you
are
harassed,
let
someone
know
who,
if
you're
harassed
mostly
what
that
means.
If
you
go
talk
to
young
blitz
men,
mostly,
you
don't
know
what
those
people
are
as
of
yet
so
what
you
do
is
you
find
somebody
with
a
badge
that
has
a
colored
bat
on
it?
You
say
help
and
they
will
get
you
in
the
right
direction.
B
Okay,
not
just
the
little
blue,
not
just
a
little
blue
smiley
face,
but
one
of
the
one
of
the
chairs
a
little
working
group
and
they
will
get
you
they
will
get.
You
started
if
you're
one
of
the
reception's,
please
don't
hog
the
food.
We
have
it's
scary,
sometimes
the
food,
the
food
comes
out
and
it's
just
like
charged
and
at
the
end
of
it
you
know
it's
like
army
ants
have
been
through
there,
so
take
some,
let
other
people
get
into
it
and
just
continue
forward.
B
Don't
leave
your
bag
and
guarded
we're
mostly
a
good
group
of
people,
but
we
occasionally
get
people
coming
in
from
the
outside
to
grab
stuff.
They
walk
away.
So
if
you're
going
to
leave
your
bag,
make
sure
somebody's
walk
watching
it
make
sure
you
remember
to
sleep
and
I'm
not
kidding
about
this
one.
B
One
of
the
early
if's
had
the
longest
working
group
session.
Ever
it
was
host
requirements.
It
ran
from
about
8
o'clock
in
the
morning
about
until
about
2
o'clock
in
the
morning,
the
next
day
with
small
breaks,
it
was
necessary
to
do
it
because
we
were
trying
to
eat
the
document
out
final
and
you
can
see
sort
of
where
people
were
in
asleep.
B
B
Ok
working
group
sessions
was
what
most
of
the
stuff
happens
here.
A
working
group
session
is
all
about
high
bandwidth,
interaction
for
people
who
are
actually
working
in
the
working
group.
It's
not
a
tutorial
session.
Ok,
if
you
haven't
spent
misspending
time,
feel
free
to
listen
but
be
feel
but
feel
free
to
be
confused
because
you
probably
are
because
you
don't
have
the
context.
Ok,
if
you
are
involved
in
the
thing
please,
if
you
get
up
to
speak,
speak
directly
in
the
microphone,
can
you
guys
there
any
more
space?
B
Sorry
I've
got
people
hanging
out
out
there
every
time
you
get
to
the
microphone
first
time
you
get
up,
there
say
your
name
and
your
organization.
Second
time
just
say
your
name:
we've
got
a
bunch
of
people
doing
the
recordings
and
the
transcripts
the
the
notations
for
the
meetings
so
be
aware
that
they're
there
and
help
them.
So
they
know
who's,
saying
something:
okay
and
then
you're
gonna
see
these
blue
sheets.
Do
it
blue
sheets,
for
this
room.
B
Yeah,
okay,
so
you
will
see
a
blue
sheet
and
it's
basically
a
blue
colored
sheet
sign
your
name
in
your
organization.
Don't
have
to
make
it
legible.
We'd,
like
we'd,
like
to
know
who
you
are
it's
basically
used
for,
so
that
we
know
what
so
maintain
some
level
of
openness.
So
if
somebody
comes
along
saying
well,
it
was
my
idea.
I
was
never
in
that
working
group.
We've
got
some
idea
of
of
what's
going
on
in
there.
B
It's
not
that
formal,
but
it's
a
useful
thing
to
have
working
group
session
different
than
the
meeting
session
when
you're
inside
the
working
group
sign
the
word
blue
sheets.
Please
read
the
working
group
drafts
and
the
agenda.
It
will
help
you
understanding.
What's
going
on
there,
listen
if
the
speaker's,
not
speaking
loud
enough,
if
he's
speaking
too
fast,
let
them
know
we
can't
do
anything
about
it.
If
we
don't
know,
there's
a
problem,
so
please,
let
us
know
if
there
are
problems,
feel
free
to
comment.
B
If,
and
only
if,
you've
actually
read
the
stuff,
don't
just
get
up
and
say
well,
I
thought
that
was
a
bad
idea
because
such-and-such
if
you
don't
know
the
conversation,
it's
usually
not
helpful
to
do
that.
Please
read
this
freezer
in
the
information
being
informed
contributor,
don't
hog
the
microphone!
Yeah
well,
I
get
40
minutes
to
talk
to
you
or
50
minutes
to
talking,
but
we
can
do
that
in
the
working
groups.
B
Make
your
point
make
you
succinctly
if
you
can,
if,
if
you
want
to
make
a
longer
point,
you
can
use
the
jabber
session
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit
or
you
can
you
go
back
to
the
working
groups
mailing
list,
so
you've
got
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
make
your
point
try
and
stay
on
point
when
what's
going
on
in
a
working
group,
don't
hog
the
seats,
everybody
look
around.
You
got
a
bag
on
the
seat.
B
Next
to
you
things
like
that,
where
you've
got
a
lot
of
people
trying
to
sit
down
in
some
of
the
sessions,
the
blue
sheets
are,
among
other
things,
used
to
figure
out
how
many
people
were
attending
a
working
group.
So
we
can
figure
out
what
size
rooms
we're
gonna
have
for
the
next
time.
Sometimes
we
get
it
confused.
Sometimes
we
get
a
lot
more
people
than
we
were
expecting
so
be
aware
that
other
people
want
to
sit
down.
Please
move
your
bag.
B
If
you're
asked
to
don't
be
afraid
to
ask
somebody
in
move
your
bag,
please
avoid
side
conversations.
If
you
got
to
speak
about
something,
go
outside
it's
okay,
to
have
a
quick,
a
quick.
You
know,
five-second
five-second
comment,
but
mostly
your
private
conversations,
I,
don't
cry
that
you
know
they're
making
other
people
go.
You
know.
B
Okay,
I
mean
actually
this
the
the
working
group
jabber
channel
to
the
end,
because
there's
actually
one
of
one
of
the
tool
slides
but
there's
a
chat
session
available
for
every
working
group
that
you're
in
and
if
you
have
a
question
or
if
you're,
not
understanding
with
the
languages.
In
many
cases
in
the
jabber
session,
you're
gonna
get
a
transcript
of
what
people
are
saying
or
a
commentary
on
what
people
are
saying
that
may
be
easier
to
read,
especially
if
you're,
not
a
non-native,
English
speaker.
B
If
not,
you
can
sometimes
ask
questions
in
the
jabber
channel
to
get
somebody
to
explain
what
did
he
just
say:
okay,
we're
gonna
have
90
95
percent
of
the
activities
at
an
IETF
meeting
or
working
group
sessions.
There
are
also
these
things
called
birds
of
the
feather
working
group
session
is
the
face-to-face
instantiation
of
a
working
group
that
continues
for
a
long
period
of
time.
Some
working
groups
have
lasted
20
years.
B
Sadly
enough
generally,
a
working
group
is
designed
to
pick
a
particular
problem
run
for
a
particular
length
of
time
produce
a
couple
of
documents
that
are
described
in
its
charter
and
end.
Sometimes
we
can't
quite
do
that,
so
we
get
things
that
last
for
quite
a
long
period
of
time.
The
face-to-face
meeting
is
all
about
resolving
points
that
have
come
up
along
that
process
that
you
can't
do
that
you
need
more
bandwidth
than
you
can
get
on
a
working
group
on
a
working
group
mailing
list.
B
So
it
is
not
going
to
be
a
tutorial
for
you
there.
It's
very
rarely
that
you're
going
to
get
much
tutorial
in
there.
The
other
thing
that
will
happen
at
a
working
group
session
is
that
you
will
get
occasional
introductions
of
new
ideas
or
things
that
might
be
merged
into
other
documents.
So
you
might
get
a
tiny
a
little
bit
of
tutorial,
but
mostly
it's
going
to
be
about
what's
already
going
on.
B
Okay,
occasionally
it
used
to
be
that
the
working
groups
just
sort
of
got
stood
up.
Now
we
sort
of
do
a
birds
of
a
feather
session
before
we
stand
up
a
working
group,
birds
of
a
feather
session
precede
the
working
group.
Sometimes
there
are
one-shot
discussion
on
a
topic
that
we're
not
going.
We
know
we're
not
going
to
go
to
a
working
group
on,
but
mostly
they're
there
to
talk
about
what
we
might
want
to
work
on.
B
This
is
where
we
talk
about
the
pros
Charter,
the
proposed
work
items
a
tutorial
about
the
problem,
so
these
might
be
a
little
bit
more
tutorial
for
you
and
at
the
end
of
it,
the
ad
and
the
working
and
the
Boff
chairs,
and
a
few
other
people
will
figure
out
whether
or
not
it
makes
sense
to
form
the
working
group.
If
so,
we
go
through
the
whole
chartering
process
and
it
shows
up
as
fast
generally
only
meet
once
it's
really
really
rare
to
have
a
boss
meet
twice.
Sometimes.
B
What
happens,
though,
is
on
the
first
off?
You
thought
you
were
solving
one
problem
and,
at
the
end
of
I,
see
that
back
there
at
the
end,
I'm
counting
yawns,
just
so
I
can
figure
out
how
I'm
doing
here
at
the
end
of
at
the
end
of
a
boss.
Sometimes
the
the
comments
are
such
that
we've
realized
that
we
can't
bring
up
the
working
group
in
the
forum,
and
we
thought
what
we're
going
to
do
so.
B
It
gets
respond
and
we
do
another
boss
looking
at
what
we
might
actually
work
on
so
walking
the
halls
you're
going
to
see
a
bunch
of
people
with
dots
on
their
badges,
mostly
you're,
not
going
to
interact
with
a
lot
of
these
folks
internet
architecture
board
iesg.
These
are
the
area
directors
working
group
chairs
are
probably
the
people
you're
going
to
see
the
most
stuff
because
you'll
be
sitting
in
working
groups,
nominations
committee
we
self
select.
Our
managers
are
our
internet
architecture
board
and
our
area
directors
through
this
thing
called
a
non
nominations.
B
Ok
any
event,
though
the
green
dot
is
for
the
guys
who
are
here
who
work
with
the
Secretariat
to
make
sure
that
this
meeting
comes
off
and
comes
off
well
they're,
the
ones
who
are
working
with
the
networking
staff.
Thank
them
there's
a
reason
that
you
can
actually
get
good
internet
here,
internet
by
the
internet,
administrative
oversight
committee.
They
are
the
guys
who
run
our
contracts
or
manage
the
people
who
manage
our
contracts
in
a
research
steering
group
member
again
I'll
talk
about
the
IR
tied
off
a
little
bit
later
and
I.
B
Think
the
one-and-only
RFC
n-series,
editor
I,
think
there's
only
one
of
those
dots.
So,
oh
sorry
and
the
most
important
one
at
all
in
I
understand
something
find
the
person
who
has
one
of
these
on
their
badge.
Ok,
go
up
to
him.
Explain
to
him
that
you're
new
and
say
I
have
a
question:
can
you
help
me?
They
may
not
be
able
to
answer
it,
but
they
can
probably
point
you
to
someone
you
can,
and
they
have
already
said
that
they're
willing
to
do
that.
So
don't
don't
be
shy
about
it.
B
B
Is
there
please
take
a
look
at
it
and
again,
when
you
see
these
people,
if
you've
got
a
problem
that
you
have
mineable
work
out,
usually
there
are
the
people
that
you
go
to
and
the
last
resort
and
they
will
be
able
to
hopefully
point
you
in
the
right
direction:
internet,
Assigned,
Names
and
numbers
Authority.
If
you
are
working
on
an
internet
draft
and
you
are
going
to
making
changes
to
the
parameter
registry
and
mostly
how
many
people
understood
that
statement,
that's
what
I
was
afraid
of.
B
B
I'm
blanking
I
want
to
want
to
stay
here.
Parameter
registry
is
more
along
the
lines
of
what
that
bit
met
in
that
packet
at
position,
23,
okay,
so
when
you
get
around
to
it,
you
mount
you're
gonna
want
to
talk
to
these
folks
who
shells
back
there
and
there
are
probably
others
scattered
throughout
the
whole
thing.
Irc
editor
when
it
gets
time
to
turn
the
internet
drafts,
which
is
our,
which
is
the
process
which
is
the
first
document
you
will
ever
see
in
this
organization
into
something
that
we
refer
to
as
a
standard.
B
We
turn
them
into
RFC's,
which
stands
for
a
really
strange
name
request
for
comments.
The
reason
the
stands
for
that
is
historical.
Okay.
There
is
an
RFC
editor
staff
and
RFC
editor
series,
editor,
Action,
Center,
publisher
and
there's
also
a
guy
who
isn't
actually
part
of
the
staff,
but
is
responsible
for
managing
a
series
of
RCS
that
are
independently
submitted,
as
opposed
to
submitted
through
the
IETF
process.
B
This
is
why
I
said
purple.
These
are
good
people
say
hi
to
him.
Thank
him.
Please
you'll
see
Rey
wandering
around
Rey
is
a
is
an
employee
of
the
Internet
Society
and
his
job
is
to
manage
the
contracts
of
the
Secretariat
and
folks
along
those
lines.
He
he
basically
is
the
guy
responsible
for
putting
his
name
on
the
signature
that
gets
us
to
various
hotels
and
things
like
that:
I
Anna
staff,
the
IANA
staff
and
the
RFC
people
will
have
tables
out
by
the
registration
desk.
They
generally
have
office
hours.
B
The
first
three
days
of
the
meeting
go
have
fun
talk
to
him.
They
have
candy,
so
you
know
go
by
and
say
hi,
it's
a
useful
thing.
Okay
and
we
finally
come
to
slide
19.
How
am
I
doing
at
time?
Okay,
remember.
I
said
that
I
wasn't
going
to
talk
about
the
IETF
organizations
such
go.
Read
this
this
talks
about
the
history
in
the
IETF.
It
talks
about
how
we're
organized
how
we
select
on
how
we
select
some
of
our
our
management.
B
B
But
in
for
this
meeting
this
is
the
place
you
want
to
go
most
effectively
useful
if
you're
looking
for
somebody
to
take
you
to
ride
with
you
the
airport
or
come
back
or
come
from
the
airport
when
you're
getting
here,
but
there's
other
things
that
are
there
like
the
networking
information,
stuff,
tutorials,
there's
a
lot
of
information
that
has
been
put
together
about
how
the
IETF
works
and
about
how
to
do
things
like
write
graphs
and
such
the
tutorials
directory
has
a
bunch
of
that.
Please
go!
Take
a
look.
B
There
is
a
I
think
it's
like
five
five
or
six
mailing
lists
that
come
up
for
every
meeting
and
there
is
a
meeting
there's
a
meaningless
that
you're
subscribed
to
regard
whether
you
want
to
or
not
that
is
a
meeting
announcements.
There's
a
meaningless
that
there's
a
mailing
us
that
you
are
subscribed
to
if
you
ask
for
it,
and
that
is
goes
to
anybody
who's
going
to
the
meetings.
There's
another
meaningless
for
newcomers
which
is
right
there,
so
useful
things.
B
B
B
This
is
possibly
the
best
network
connectivity
you
will
have
unless
you
work
for
a
company
that
sells
it
anywhere
in
the
world.
We
we
have
a
great
staff.
We've
been
doing
this
like
I,
said
now
for
well.
We've
been
doing
networking
now
for
about
twenty
eight
years
at
the
meeting
so
go
on
here,
it'll
help
you
get
started,
I
RTF
I'm,
just
gonna
mention
this
because
you're
gonna
see
these
on
the
agenda.
B
I,
RTF,
internet
research
task
force,
it's
an
organized
activity
in
the
in
an
architecture
board,
and
it
is
a
group
of
people,
a
group
of
research
groups
that
look
at
things
that
we're
not
ready
to
look
at
in
the
IETF
sort
of
research.
He
thinks
delay-tolerant
networking
was
literally
investigating
interplanetary
network.
B
They
you're
welcome
to
attend
these
things.
Some
of
the
working
some
of
the
research
groups
are
closed
groups,
so
you're
allowed
to
observe
but
not
participate
and
to
join.
You
have
to
basically
ask
to
ask
to
join
the
thing
other
than
that
they're
they're
a
useful
way
of
getting
an
idea
of
what
may
might
be
doing
in
five
to
ten
years.
B
More
resources,
newcomer
space
start
here.
If
you
haven't
been
to
this
page
yet
get
there
now,
it
will
point
you
to
a
lot
of
information
that
I
am
NOT
discussing
here,
tools
page
when
you
get
a
write
when
it's
time
for
you
to
put
together
an
internet
draft
when
it's
time
for
you
to
submit
material,
because
you
want
your
internet
craft
to
be
heard
at
a
working
group
session.
This
is
where
you're
gonna
be
going
to
it
tools.
Page
we
try
it.
We've
been
automating
things
constantly
and
remember.
B
This
thing:
I
was
talking
about
the
hackathon
code,
sprint
that
was
happening.
Those
tools
are
generally
built
by
volunteers
who
work
with
the
IETF
occasionally
and
will
contract
out
quite
a
lot
of
what
we've
got
is
done
by
people
like
you,
jabber,
okay,
the
jabber
page
will
explain
how
how
are
naming
convention
for
each
of
the
jabber
rooms
that
working
in
each
working
group
join
the
room
you'll
see
what's
going
on.
B
B
Ok,
other
newcomer
activities,
we're
gonna,
give
you
some
wine
and
beer
and
various
other
things
and
other
other
non-alcoholic
things.
There
is
a
newcomers
meet-and-greet
later
on
today
about
for
ya,
and
that
happens
between
this
session
and
the
the
Welcome
Reception.
So
go
there
now,
I'm
gonna
tell
you
to
be
assertive.
B
The
people
that
are
there
are
going
to
be
the
research,
the
the
working
group
chairs,
the
area
directors
and
some
other
random
folks
who
are
sort
of
in
in
that
space.
These
are
the
people
you
want
to
have
a
chat
with
about
what
you
want
to
do
and
how
you
want
to
do
it
if
they
are
talking
to
another
guy
with
a
dot
on
their
badge.
Tell
them
I'm
a
newcomer
I
want
to
talk
to
you,
and
hopefully
they
will
actually
pay
attention
and
to
go.
Do
that
be
assertive?
B
This
is
your
opportunity
to
do
this.
I
think
our
current
definition
for
new
comer
is
five
meetings,
but
if
you've
been
in
five
or
fewer
meetings,
you're
welcome
to
come
to
this,
so
you've
got
five
more
four
more
chances
after
this
one
to
beat
someone
beat
somebody
over
the
head
and
and
talk
to
them.
This
is
an
opportunity
that
you
should
take.
Please
do
newcomers
dinner
very
informal
I'm,
not
really
sure
how
they're
gonna
get
a
restaurant
for
55
people
or
100.
Whatever
this
room
is.
B
C
B
B
Nonny
are
you
in
here,
okay,
so
the
mentoring
route
program
is
an
opportunity
to
get
you
some
one-on-one
time
with
somebody
who's
been
dealing
with
the
ietf
for
a
while.
It
usually
happens
before
the
Newcomer
session.
For
some
strange
reason,
maybe
we
need
to
think
about
swapping
the
two.
So
take
a
look
at
it.
If
you're
interested
talk
to
the
the
mentoring
coordinator
and
maybe
set
up
something
for
your
next
time
around
okay,
local
options
or
Berlin,
it's
actually
a
fairly
safe
place,
not
a
big
thing.
B
The
one
thing
that's
somewhat
unusual
about
this
area
is
this,
actually
is
something
that
you
do
want
to
pay
attention
to.
Please
avoid
photographing
strangers
if
you're
photographing
a
crowd
or
that
this
is
not
a
big
deal.
This
tends
to
be
one
of
those
things.
That
is
a
local
issue,
some
pickpockets
and
tourists
area
and
you
bond
nothing
worse
than
you've,
seen
in
most
other
locations
and
not
as
bad
as
other
places.
We've
been.
B
Please
watch
your
belongings
if
you're,
not
here,
you
know,
if
you're
wandering
out,
don't
put
them
down
and
expect
them
to
be
there.
If
you
come
back
so
just
be
just
be
aware
about
that
and
finally
feel
free
to
yell
at
me.
Tell
me
what
I
did
right
tell
me
what
I
did
wrong.
There
is
a
survey
for
you
to
take,
and
at
this
point
I
am
ready
to
take
questions.
If
any,
oh
yeah,
I'm.
Sorry
remember
what
I
said:
stop
to
the
mic
and
tell
me
who
you
are.
B
Really
cool
I,
always
hate
being
questioned,
not
so
much
guys.
Thank
you
very
much
for
joining
you
guys,
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
I
hope
you
have
a
productive
session
in
the
IHF.
Please
I
do
and
I'm
very
serious
if
you
use
this
an
opportunity
to
make
contact
with
folks,
especially
folks
in
the
area
that
you're
interested
in
it
is
a
unique
and
sometimes
painful
organization.