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Internet Society Board of Trustees Meeting 163-Day 1
A
A
Second,
my
heart
goes
out
to
the
members
of
the
internet
society
chapter
in
ukraine
when
they
joined
the
internet
society
community
in
october
of
last
year.
It
was
with
the
aim
that
we
would
work
together
to
grow
mobilize
and
engage
our
communities
to
build,
promote
and
defend
an
internet
for
everyone.
A
Lastly,
I
feel
the
need
to
respond
to
those
who
have
called
for
a
partition
of
the
internet
in
response
to
the
crisis.
The
internet
society's
guiding
principle
has
for
decades
been
that
the
internet
is
for
everyone
in
this
crisis.
The
need
for
that
focus
has
never
been
more
clear
in
the
run-up
to
the
invasion.
The
internet
shared
photographic,
evidence
of
the
build-up
and
exposed
empty
promises
of
de-escalation
after
the
invasion.
It
has
carried
the
heartbreaking
images
of
the
common
people
of
ukraine
under
attack
and
the
stirring
images
of
their
response.
A
It
has
carried
the
voice
of
president
zielenski
across
the
globe
to
parliament
after
parliament,
and
it
has
coordinated
the
work
of
those
helping
refugees,
find
shelter,
find
community
and
find
each
other
from
within
russia.
It
has
carried
the
voices
and
images
of
those
who
have
strenuously
objected
to
the
actions
of
their
government.
A
It
is
tempting,
in
a
moment
of
crisis,
to
close
off
anything
that
you
can
as
a
demonstrate
that
you
have
done
something,
but
this
action
empowers
those
who
want
the
world
to
act
in
darkness
and
feeds
the
endless
hunger
of
autocracy
for
control,
simply
put
partition,
hands
control
to
those
who
want
their
people
to
have
no
independent
vision
of
current
events
or
independent
access
to
other
voices.
It
will
not
silence
governments,
it
will
silence
everyone
else.
A
It
is
tempting
as
nightfalls
to
draw
in
and
huddle
in
the
darkness,
but
this
is
a
moment
for
beacons
and
candlelight
for
hearthfires
and
surge
lights.
We
must
keep
the
internet
whole
to
enable
individuals
to
share
with
each
other.
We
must
enable
the
internet
for
everyone,
so
the
light
of
humanity
and
fire
of
truth
can
win
out
over
the
darkness.
A
My
thanks
to
andrew
and
to
the
staff
who
have
made
defend
the
internet,
a
core
mission
of
the
society,
my
thanks
to
each
of
our
members
for
their
efforts
as
well.
While
some
have
called
for
the
internet
society
to
stand
as
a
neutral
provider
of
information,
I
believe
we
should
be
inspired
by
those
unknown
colleagues
who
have
kept
ukraine
connected.
A
We
should
defend
what
we
can
and
rebuild
what
we
must.
We
can
then
hand
on
this,
give
to
the
next
generation
whole
and
with
a
reinformed
conviction
that
the
internet
is
for
everyone
among
those
joining
us
as
stewards
of
the
internet.
Society's
mission
today
are
two
new
chapters:
five
new
special
interest
groups
and
three
new
standing
groups,
and
now
I'd
like
to
turn
to
the
happy
duty
of
welcoming
them.
A
A
A
C
C
So
the
idf
trusts
are
these
five
individuals,
one
of
which
is
in
fact
appointed
by
yourselves.
Currently
john
levine
holds
that
position,
but
there's
myself,
I
I'm
the
chair.
Kathy
moriarty
is
the
treasurer
joel,
halpern,
john
levine
and
stephan
wenger
are
the
other
trustees
running
out.
We
have
five
of
us
that
keep
the
trust
up
and
running
next
slide,
please.
C
So
a
lot
of
people
aren't
really
familiar
with
what
the
trust
actually
does.
Some
people
are
very
familiar
because
they
themselves
have
been
trustees
in
the
past,
but
others
are
less
familiar
with
what
the
trust
does
and
that's
actually
a
good
thing,
because
the
trust
deals
mostly
with
legal
things,
licensing,
issues,
trademark
management
and
protection
of
these
things,
and
when
you
don't
hear
from
the
trust,
life
is
good
because
it's
very
calm
and
quiet
and
we're
not
dealing
with
anything
that
needs
dealing
with.
C
And
so,
when
you
don't
hear
from
us,
that's
the
very
best
situation
to
be
in.
But
when
we
do
take
care
of
business,
we
are
responsible
to
a
variety
of
parties-
the
itf,
obviously
it's
in
our
name
and
it's
where
we
were
born
from
to
take
care
of
things
like
rfcs
and
copyrights
there,
but
that
expanded
also
into
ayanna
and
icann
and
the
rer
community.
C
When
the
transition
happened
a
few
years
ago
and
the
ihf
trust
took
on
functions
for
all
those
parties
to
help
protect
those
assets,
so
we
manage
domains
and
what
we
mean
by
managers.
We
make
sure
that
nobody
else,
you
know
re-registers
these
domains
and
takes
off
with
them.
We
make
sure
the
changes
that
are
pro
approved
and
requested
by
the
parties
that
should
run
the
domains,
get
a
second
set
of
eyes
to
review
them
for
changes
so
that
we
don't
get
any
hijackings
going
on.
C
C
So
when
we
say
we
have
copyrights,
we
manage
what
we
really
mean
is
we
we
do
protect
those
countries.
We
make
sure
that
they're
not
lost
through
either.
Some
mismanagement
and
not
compliance
with
legal
frameworks
in
the
countries
that
we
have
to
manage
in
or
by
somebody
doing
something
which
they
shouldn't
be
doing,
such
as
a
great
example,
would
be
taking
an
rfc.
C
And,
lastly,
we
have
these
other
two
things
which
are
smaller
in
our
portfolio,
the
trademarks
and
the
software
trademarks.
You
gotta
protect
them.
You
know,
if
you
don't
defend
them,
if
you
let
them
become
generic
or
let
other
people
misuse
them,
you
can
lose
them.
So
we
also
take.
You
know
a
very
serious
approach
to
making
sure
that
none
of
the
marks
we
managed
for
the
community
are
mismanaged
and
that
we
retain
a
full
freedom
of
action
around
the
trademarks
next
slide.
Please.
C
And
this
is
kind
of
really
boring
information,
but
it's
going
to
come
up
in
a
few
slides
as
to
why
it's
important.
Currently,
the
trust
is
a
trust
in
the
commonwealth
of
virginia.
It's
an
irs
non-profit.
We
also
don't
make
any
money
from
all
these
things.
We
we
manage.
So
it's
a
very
appropriate
that
we're
a
non-profit
because
we
don't
have
any
profit,
we're
independent
of
both
isoc
and
the
iats
llc.
We
are
a
separate
legal
entity.
We
have
our
own
website
right
there.
C
C
But
we
also
pay
for
insurance
and
that
will
come
up
in
a
minute
and
we,
if
you've
ever
been
to
an
itf
meeting-
and
you
know
all
those
blue
sheets
get
collected,
if
you
ever
wonder
where
they
go,
we
pay
for
the
storage
of
those
blue
sheets
in
a
cabinet,
so
the
ones
that
aren't
digitized
next
slide.
Please.
C
So
one
of
the
important
things
I
want
to
talk
to
you
today,
we've
been
we
started
out
talking
to
the
itf
their
plenary
this
past
week.
Is
that
there's
a
couple
of
problems
that
the
trust
is
starting
to
face
some
of
them
we've
been
facing
for
a
few
years?
We
hoped
it
would
get
better,
but
it's
not
the
first
of
which
is
our
insurance
coverage.
You
know
the
because
we're
a
trust
there
is
a
peculiarity
where
the
trustees
themselves
are
not
just
officers
of
the
trust.
C
They
are
literally
the
owners
of
the
trust,
that's
the
sort
of
the
nature
of
a
trust
in
in
u.s
law
and
the
net
result
of
that
is.
You
know
that,
there's
a
lot
of
liability.
We
all
carry
by
being
trustees
and
to
help
offset
some
of
that
liability.
We
do
carry-
and
I
know
I
saw-
carries
for
yourselves
as
well.
You
know
robust
insurance
to
help
offset
the
liability
risk
that
we
all
take
on
the
problem.
C
Trust
has
been
facing
the
last
few
years
is
because
we're
a
trust
and
not
another
kind
of
legal
entity.
Insurance
companies
have
been
unwilling
to
either
extend
the
amount
of
insurance
we
cover
in
order
to
keep
up
pace
with
inflation
and
pace
with
rising
risks
to
the
trustees,
but
they've
also,
we've
seen
a
decrease
in
the
number
of
companies
who
actually
even
provide
insurance
to
the
trust
market,
and
part
of
this
is
because
most
of
the
time
in
the
us
trusts
aren't
used
in
the
way
the
itf
trust
was
set
up.
C
We
don't
want
to
be
in
that
business
and
so
they've
backed
away
from
providing
insurance
into
that
marketplace,
and
so
we
last
few
years
tried
to
increase
our
our
limits,
worked
with
you
in
our
company
and
we've
been
unable
to
so
we're
starting
to
look
at
that
landscape.
Well,
how
do
we
fix
this?
Obviously,
it's
a
it's
unacceptable
to
lower
our
insurance
and
we
run
the
risk
by
the
way,
because
the
marketplace
has
gotten
so
small.
C
C
Related
to
this
is
the
trustee's
personal
liability.
So
when
you
become
a
trustee
one
of
the
things
you
get
to
do
is
you
sign
an
agreement,
and
I
will
tell
you
it
was.
The
advice
was
passed
to
me
and
I've
passed
on
other
people.
This
is
one
agreement.
You
definitely
want
to
read
this,
isn't
just
that
sure
I'll
be
a
trustee,
a
type
of
agreement,
you're
taking
a
lot
of
personal
liability
and
risk
on
when
you
become
a
trustee,
because
we
own
the
trust
and
the
assets
around
it.
C
If
the
trust
were
to
get
sued,
it
isn't
that
you're
suing
some
abstract
entity.
You're
literally
also
suing
the
trustees
themselves.
So
that's
a
real
problem
and
we
have
in
discussions
with
you,
know,
members
in
the
community.
A
number
of
people
have
actually
identified
that
they
won't
be
a
trustee
because
they
won't
take
on
that
personal
liability
risk
that
comes
with
that
job,
and
so
this
creates
a
real
problem
for
us.
We
can't,
you
know
procure
more
insurance
to
cover
people.
We
have.
C
C
Their
directors
have
a
lot
of
protections
under
the
law
and
will
significantly
reduce
liability
plus
they're
able
to
get
insurance
because
insurance
companies
recognize
such
entities
and
they
understand
the
risk
liability
around
providing
insurance
to
them
and
it's
a
much
easier
marketplace.
So
next
slide.
Please.
C
So
if
we
are
considering
making
some
changes
to
the
structure
of
trust,
possibly
becoming
a
non-profit
corporation,
one
of
the
questions
that
first
comes
up
from
a
lot
of
people
is
well.
Why
not
just
fold
under
the
ietf
llc?
You
know
we
created
this
over
the
ietf
a
couple
years
ago.
We
put
a
lot
of
work
into
it.
C
C
A
related
problem
is
that
when
the
ia
transition
was
done
in
2016
and
ian
assets
were
transferred
to
the
itf
trust
for
management,
a
big
reason
and
some
of
the
people
on
this
call
were
in
fact
involved
in
negotiation.
So
you
know
even
better
than
I,
the
the
the
trust
was
selected
as
a
mutual
third
party
for
a
lot
of
these
assets
and
that
people
could
sort
of
say
I
don't
want
you
to
have
it.
I
don't
want
you
to
have
it,
but
these
other
guys
they're,
okay,
to
have
they're
a
neutral
third
party.
C
If
we
were
to
fold
under
llc
iana
assets
would
ultimately
then
end
up
under
isag
as
well
and
icesock
itself
through
pir
is
a
registry
operator
and
that's
also
getting
a
little
bit
crossing
the
wires.
So
look
at
these
two
things.
The
trustees
do
not
believe
that
fully
under
the
ietf
llc
is
in
fact
the
right
way
to
respect
these
agreements
or
the
right
way
to
move
forward.
C
So
what
are
we
doing?
Well,
we've
been
exploring
what
it
would
take,
how
much
of
it
cost.
It
is
even
possible
to
convert
the
trust's
legal
registration
from
a
trust
to
a
not-for-profit
corporation
and
our
advisors
say
yes,
this
is
something
that
can
be
done.
It's
not
a
trivial
thing.
It
requires
some
work.
It
requires
creating
a
new,
not
for-profit
corporation.
It
would
be
registered
in
delaware.
C
It
requires
creating
a
set
of
foundational
documents
that
would
establish
the
bylaws
for
the
new
entity,
and
we
have
taken
the
step
of
actually
working
with
our
consulting
attorneys
to
create
a
draft
set
of
such
bylaws
to
see
what
they
would
look
like
and
and
what
we
would
have
to
change,
and
so
after
having
done
that,
what
we've
discovered
is
the
following.
It
is
possible
to
transfer
all
the
its
trust
assets
to
that
new
entity.
C
C
The
role
and
the
service
that
the
itf
trust
provides
to
the
itf
internet
communities,
the
whole
everybody
would
stay
exactly
the
same.
That
will
not
change
the
ip
licenses
will
remain
the
same.
We're
not
trying
to
become
a
attorney
seems
to
be
a
for-profit
set
of
assets,
they're
just
going
to
stay
the
same
and
transfer
over
and
the
same
spirit
that
the
trust
is
always
operated
under.
Of
making
these
things
easy
to
use
without
payment.
You
know,
free
use
is
something
we
will
continue
to
do.
It
would
stay.
C
A
non-profit
part
of
the
exercise
here
is
to
create
the
corporation
and
then
register
with
the
irs
become
a
501c3
non-profit,
so
part
of
the
timeline.
If
we
do,
this
transfer
would
in
fact
be
to
set
up
the
corporation
apply
for
51c3
status
and
once
that
has
come
through,
then
begin
the
work
of
transferring
the
assets
over.
So
this
is
not
a
fast
thing.
This
will
probably
take
at
least
a
year,
and
the
selection
of
directors
would
follow
the
same
spirit
process
as
rsc
87
14,
which
lays
out
how
the
the
trustees
today
are
selected.
C
C
If
we
were
to
create
this
corporation,
could
we
keep
the
name
next
slide?
Please
we're
not
gonna.
Do
this
in
isolation,
though,
and
so
the
discussion
we
presented
to
the
itf
of
the
plenary
this
past
week.
The
talk
today
are
sort
of
the
opening
rounds
of
consulting
with
the
broader
community
on
what
our
plans
are
and
what
we're
going
to
do,
and
so
the
next
stage
of
this
is
we
planned
it
in
april
to
have
a
webinar
where
we
basically
will
open
up
and
say
here's
what
we're
planning
to
do.
C
We'll
talk
about
the
reasons
behind
it,
we'll
talk
about
the
details
and
we
will
invite
people
to
comment
and
and
participate
in
the
discussion.
We're
also
going
to
use
the
tlp
interest
list
over
at
the
itf.
For
a
anchor
point
for
the
conversation
we
we
debated,
created
a
new
list,
this
one's
been
established
in
the
past
for
discussing
itf
trust
related
activities.
So
we
thought,
let's
just
keep
it
there
and
keep
it
simple.
C
E
C
The
trick
right
now
is
these
assets
are
in
fact
us-based
assets
and
to
both
dissolve
the
trust,
transfer
the
assets
and
do
it
internationally
without
a
significant
complication
to
how
we
do
this
exercise.
We
also
by
the
way
you
know.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
don't
like
use
copyright
law
for
on
the
internet,
but
I
will
point
out
that
it
is
actually
a
pretty
easy
system
to
navigate
and
well
known.
You
know
if
you
own
the
copyright
materials
which
we
do
and
we
want
to
provide
them
with.
C
C
No
and
I'll
point
out,
we
are
currently
a
us-based
trust,
so
yep
yep,
I
just
didn't,
know
that
it
was
like
different
than
it's
a
company
right.
No,
no,
so
far,
no
push
back.
You
know
again,
the
trust
is
pretty
boring
and
a
lot
of
people
don't
get
too
excited
about
it,
because
we
don't
have
much
money.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
power.
We
just
make
stuff
available
for
people
to
use
easily.
F
C
Not
many
I
mean
not
zero,
not
zero
zeros.
We
estimate
the
total
cost
might
come
in
around
twenty
thousand
dollars,
and
most
of
that,
frankly,
is
is
spent
in
crafting
things
like
the
bylaws
and
lawyer
time
to
do
that
that
write-up
and
then
lawyers
to
do
the
process
of
creating
actually
filing
the
corporation's
papers
and
then
applying
for
the
non-profit
501c3
status.
So
we've
already
spent
a
little
bit
of
money.
C
F
C
So
we
don't
justify
any
change.
The
ongoing
costs,
really,
the
only
real
change,
might
be
that,
since
we
would
be
able
to
buy
proper
insurance,
the
amount
of
insurance
we
buy,
hopefully
would
go
up
and
that
may
cost
they
go
up.
On
the
other
hand,
because
the
the
basis
of
trusts
obtaining
insurance
already
is
a
highly
risky
endeavor,
we
pay,
you
know
a
fair
amount
of
money
for
the
coverage
we
currently
get
as
a
corporation.
It's
very
likely
that
may
stay
the
same
or
even
go
down
to
get
more
coverage.
C
C
D
I'd
just
like
to
just
for
folks
background
to
kind
of
clarify
what
the
relationship
is
between
isoc
and
the
trust,
the
trust
glenn's
correcting
them
around
here.
The
trust,
I
believe,
is
an
independent
entity.
It's
not
legally
formally
connected
to
isoc.
At
this
point,
it's
just
that
we
have
some
history
together
and
we've
traditionally
provided
funding.
Is
that
right.
C
Yes,
so
when
the
trust
was
created,
you
know
I
wasn't
around
doing
those
negotiations,
I'm
suspect
we
have
the
history
of
some
people.
The
roommate
may
be
more
familiar.
So
forgive
me
if
I
get
some
of
it
wrong,
because
I'm
getting
it
second
hand,
because
I
wasn't
there,
but
in
back
in
2005,
cnri
had
ownership
or
claim
ownership
around
us
a
set
of
the
assets
that
were
now
under
the
trust
management.
Likewise,
isak
also
claimed
and
owned.
C
Some
of
the
assets
that
were
under
the
trust,
management
and
the
two
parties
came
together
and
said.
Well,
how
do
we,
you
know,
keep
this
going
forward
with
neither
one
of
us
actually
ever
taking
over
ownership
and
control
of
this
new
thing,
and
so
this
independent
entity
was
created
and
the
original
assignees
of
the
the
creation
were
in
fact
isoc
and
cnri,
and
they
then
came
together.
The
the
the
first
trustees
were
appointed
and
it's
operated
that
way
since
for
2005.
C
at
the
time,
there
was
also
a
restriction
for
10
years
that
the
trustees
themselves
could
not
make
changes
to
that
agreement
that
that
ultimately
expired
in
2015
and
and
that
that's
you
know,
period
went
over.
So
that's
part
of
the
reason.
We
think
that
keeping
this
as
an
independent
entity
is
the
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
C
It
avoids
a
lot
of
complications
that
would
come
from
joining
up
and
by
the
way,
since
the
trust
was
created
and
those
original
assets
came
in,
we've
taken
a
lot
of
new
assets,
so
we've
taken
on
you
know:
people
have
transferred
all
our
seas
that
they
owned
from
way
back
in
the
early
ace
are
now
transferred
over
to
the
trusted,
and
so
we've
expanded.
What
we
we
manage
on
behalf
of
the
community,
so
it
isn't
it's
very
complicated
and
keeping
it
separate,
we
think,
is
the
very
simplest
path
forward.
D
C
We
have
not
again,
this
is
the
start
of
the
consultation,
so
we
just
sort
of
unfurled
the
banner
last
wednesday
to
the
itf
we're
talking
to
you.
Today
we
are
going
to
be
reaching
out
to
the
rars
and
the
iana.
I
can
community
to
let
them
know
of
this
proposal
and
hopefully
have
like
good
conversations,
we're
not
trying
to
rush
us
through
by
the
way
right.
So
we've
done
the
prep
work
to
know
what
it
would
look
like,
get
a
sense
of
the
costs
and
and
the
steps,
but
we're
not
trying
to
rush
us.
C
Even
if
we
said
today
every
said
go
ahead
and
do
it.
We
expect
it's
at
least
a
year,
because
we
have
to
create
the
entity
and
then
apply
for
51c3
status,
because
what
you
don't
want
to
do
is
create
the
entity
transfer
a
bunch
of
assets
over
to
it
not
get
the
51
c3
status
and
then
go
oh
gosh.
We
now
this
other
entity
which
owns
all
these
assets,
but
it's
not
a
not
for
profit.
What
do
we
do
with
those
assets
and
how
do
we
transfer
them
back?
C
A
I
think
in
the
meantime,
though,
our
our
action
item
is
to
continue
to
provide
a
designated
member
of
the
of
the
of
the
trust
when,
when
that's
needed,
and
to
continue
to
support
the
trust
as
appropriate
and
to
watch
the
evolution
so
again
since
we're
not
actually
interlocked
organizations.
At
this
point,
it's
a
bit
at
one
remove.
C
A
Thank
you,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
that
we
do
a
quick
agenda
bash
at
this
point.
There
are
a
couple
of
committee
reports
that
actually
require
resolutions
and
because
laura
has
promised
to
go
and
teach
for
the
young
women
scout
troop,
she
might
or
might
not
be
able
to
stick
with
us
through
the
discussion
of
some
of
the
community
reports.
So
let's,
let's
take
the
committee
reports
now
so
that
you
can
be
here
for
those
and
then,
since
the
community
reports
are
more
of
a
free-flowing
discussion,
we
can.
A
A
D
I'm
kevin
you'll
pull
the
report
up.
Sorry.
This
is
this:
just
just
got
this
in
the
last
minute,
but
I
think
you're
you're
pretty
much
all
aware
of
what's
in
the
report,
so
we
you
know,
opened
our
call
for
for
nominations
in
november
after
having
had
some
good
discussions
with
the
pir
board
about
what
they
were.
D
Looking
in
addition
to
what
the
the
the
icelandic
board
was
looking
for,
got
several
a
very
strong
candidate
pool
with
fairly
robust
diversity
along
both
geographical,
gender,
professional
experience,
sort
of
axes,
and
I
was
pleased
to
see
when
I
ran
the
numbers
and
that
kind
of
persisted
through
the
interview
process.
So
we
ended
up.
D
You
know
interviewing
a
fairly
diverse
set
of
candidates
and
then
selecting
a
fairly
diverse
set
of
candidates,
and
so
we're
pleased
to
announce,
as
the
board
has
already
voted
on
my
e-vote
on
the
appointment
of
lena
beckham,
keith
davidson
and
mike
silber
to
the
pir
board
of
trustees
that
was
approved
by
evote
on
march
17th
a
few
weeks
ago
and
so
yeah.
I
think
there
we
are
so
I
think
they
will
start
at
the
summer
board
meeting
and
we'll
be
off
to
the
races.
D
A
A
D
A
A
A
Society
who
are
disqualified
persons
which,
as
luis
and
I
looked
up
earlier
today,
essentially
means
that
from
a
tax
perspective
because
they
have
sufficient
control
over
some
aspect
of
of
the
society's
finances
or
activities
that
they
they're
considered
by
the
tax
folks
to
be
in
a
category.
That
means
the
we
should
pay
close
attention
to
them
and
alumni.
I
see
your
hand
up
to
correct
my
extremely.
A
A
Okay,
seeing
none,
we
will
call
that
no
conflicts
of
interest
declared
my
apologies
alone.
Yes,
you
did
remind
me,
that's-
and
I
should
have
done
it
earlier
anyway
for
the
for
the
compensation
committee
that
meant
that
we
reviewed
andrew's,
total
compensation,
including
his
variable
compensation
and
then
reviewed
his
evaluation
and
conducted
some
additional
evaluation
of
those
who
are.
A
A
A
A
Executive
supporting
her
or
him
to
to
carry
out
the
full
set
of
duties,
so
we
wanted
to
lay
out
the
full
set
of
duties
and
characterize
them
into
clusters
so
that
those
clusters
could
then
be
evaluated
that
that
is
not
done.
And
therefore
this
is
an
interim
report
and
it
won't
be
there'll,
be
no
request
for
an
acceptance
for
it
and
no
resolution,
probably
until
the
agm.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
return
to
the
agenda
and
pick
up,
I
believe
with
the
the
written
reports
that
we
received
from
different
parts
of
the
committee,
so
we
received
a
number
of
them
in
in
writing
from
the
iab
chair,
the
itf
chair,
the
omac
and
one
in
particular.
I
wanted
to
call
out
because
the
omac
report
had
advice
for
the
board
so
kevin.
A
Could
I
ask
you
to
pull
that
one
up
thanks
very
much
so,
in
addition
to
reporting
some
of
the
great
work
that
they've
been
doing
in
holding
round
tables
and
otherwise
engaging
with
the
community
there's
a
a
a
set
of
advice
to
the
board
that
we,
we
probably
want
to
to
take
note
of
and
possibly
discuss
so
the
internet
society's
action
plan.
2022
projects
could
further
seek
organization,
members,
views
and
inputs.
A
Okay,
I
will
just
say
that
I,
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
struggle
with
kind
of
consistently
is
how
to
to
act
as
a
society
where
we
bring
all
of
the
different
parts
of
the
society
to
act
together
and
well.
This
particular
set
of
advice
to
the
board
is
a
small
piece
of
that
puzzle.
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
I
see
that
as
them
also
saying
we
would
like
to
act
together.
J
A
It's
on
page
13
of
that
report,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
kevin
yeah,
so
we
discussed
this
a
little
bit
earlier
in
terms
of
their
endowment
and
our
pledge
to
the
endowment,
and
I
just
wanted
to
to
call
out
a
couple
of
things
from
that:
one
that
they
were
able
to
raise
239
000,
which
which
will
fall
under
the
match
that
we've
we've
set
aside.
For
that.
The
second
is
there.
A
There
is
actually
now
director
of
development,
lee
berkeley
shaw
at
the
staff
of
ietf.org,
whose
primary
role
is
to
actually
look
for
for
ways
in
which
the
endowment
can
be
made
to
grow.
They
do
have
a
pretty
aggressive
target
here,
as
you
can
see
their
their
goal
is
to
try
and
get
this
to
50
million
by
2027..
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
up
as
a
reminder
to
everybody
that
they
have
a
a
relatively
small
start
in
in
this
year
with
239
000,
but
a
very
big
goal,
and
that
the
impact
on
our
funds
of
of
maintaining
the
match
may
go
up
substantially
from
this
year
in
in
future
years
that
that
came
up
during
say's
report
earlier.
But
I
thought
it
might
be
good
to
just
go
directly
to
the
report
and
show
that.
A
At
the
same
time,
what
was
very
different,
of
course,
was
that
this
was
a
hybrid
meeting
with
about
300
or
so
on-site
participants
and
a
much
larger
number
of
folks
participating
from
off
venue
and
what's
interesting
about
that,
is
that
this
may
mean
if
this
is
sort
of
the
pattern
that
goes
forward,
a
pretty
serious
difference
in
how
the
itf
needs
to
think
about
how
it
collects
funds,
because
this
was
one
of
the
first.
Thank
you
very
much
for
pulling
that
up
this.
A
This
is
not
the
same
when
I
was
thinking,
but
it
actually
has
the
same
information,
so
not
not
quite
such
pretty
graphics,
but
don't
worry
about
the
graphics.
The
the
interesting
information
for
this
is
that,
if
this
is
consistent,
I
think
this
is
a
little
bit
older
than
the
one.
I
was
looking
at,
we
will
see
a
a
serious
change
in
and
how
the
itf
has
to
collect
its
own
funds.
A
In
this
case,
the
move
to
collecting
four
hybrid
registrations
and
instead
of
simply
making
those
all
free
having
fee
waivers
for
those
who
required
them,
is
a
substantial
change
in
how
they're
managing
their
money-
and
I
think,
if
we
see
this
trend
of
them
being
hybrid
meetings
maintained.
I
think
it's
useful
for
us
to
understand
that
they
are
thinking
about
how
to
manage
the
income,
that's
specifically
associated
with
meetings
and
the
meeting
costs
in
this
way.
A
J
A
At
least
for
the
past
few,
the
waivers
have
been
covered
by
specific
donations
and
the
donations
have
been
to
help
encourage
diversity.
So
there's
a
diversity
and
inclusion
program,
that's
maintained
by
the
ietf
for
donors
and
providing
these
waivers
is
a
way
to
increase
the
diversity,
because
they're
they're
making
sure
that
you
don't
have
to
be
sponsored
by
a
a
company
or
from
an
economy
for
which
this
is
not
a
huge
amount
of
money
in
order
to
participate.
So
at
the
moment
at
least
specific
donations
are
covering
them.
J
H
Yeah
just
another
in
the,
I
suspect,
we're
going
to
need
to
keep
watch
on
this
because
remote
participation,
I
think,
is
going
to
become
more
prevalent
even
post
decided
covet.
I
know
there
are
way
too
many
companies
that
were
looking
at
their
travel
budgets
and
spending
tens
of
thousands
to
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
that
didn't
for
a
couple
of
years
and
recovering
those
travel
funds
is
going
to
be
interesting.
So
I
think
we're.
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
continuum
for
a
while.
A
A
A
A
Similarly,
I
was
I
was
seeing
this
engagement
as,
as
the
action
plans
come
to
fruition.
You
get
to
a
point
in
the
action
plan
where
you
know
what
you're
going
to
do
and
then
say:
okay,
we've
established
what
the
priorities
are.
We
know
what
the
staff
activity
is
going
to
be
now
we're
going
to
go
to
omac
and
say
this
is
what
the
staff
activity
is
going
to
be.
J
A
Okay,
so
andrew,
are
you
happy
for
me
to
take
the
action
item
to
set
up
a
meeting
for
you
me
and
the
chairs
and
we'll
we'll
discuss
this
more
sure
in
depth
then,
but
with
the
with
the
idea
that
what
we'll
be
offering
is
saying?
Okay,
when
the
action
plan
has
reached
the
point
of
having
established
what
the
staff
activity
is
we'll
reach
out
to
you
to
figure
out
how
you
can
amplify
yeah?
Does
that
yeah?
Okay?
A
A
Okay,
so
I
guess
I
will
ask
the
the
the
trustees,
if
there's
any
any
other
business,
for
the
good
of
the
order
in
in
in
the
most
obvious
way
that
if
there
was
something
you've
been
meaning
to
talk
to
us
for
for
an
hour
about
now,
is
you're
really
your
chance.
Although
at
this
point
I
don't
promise
to
keep
robert
with
pepper
wig,
since
it's
quite
late
where
he
is,
and
it
would
be
an
unannounced
agenda
item,
but
is,
is
there
anything
else
for
the
good
of
the
order.
B
Along
those
lines,
I
also
wanted
to
thank
andrew,
for
you
know
what
he
has
said
as
well
over
the
last
several
weeks.
I
think
that
the
positions
that
the
internet
society
has
taken
have
been
frankly
extremely
important,
but
ted
I
mean
I
the
way
you've
framed.
It
was
actually
very
poetic
in
parts
and
very
moving.
So
thank
you.
J
So
I
think
we
are
in
the
same
in
in
the
same
route,
and
we
have
the
the
common
positions
or
even
in
in
organizations
outside
isak.
They
go
into
the
same.
I'm
still
worried
about
these
people
that
claim
that
russia
should
be
expelled
from
the
or
disconnected,
which
is
a
very
radical
and
very
improbable
situation,
but
the
I
think
we
we
have
been
providing
the
right
position
and
the
the
the
neutrality
that
we
are
supposed
to
have.
Thank
you.
A
Thanks
and
when
the
the
chapters
have
done
with
their
statement,
please
make
sure
that
we
have
a
chance
to
commend
them
on
it.
Thanks
sure,
okay
with
that,
thank
you
all
and
we'll
see
you
tomorrow,
for
those
of
you
in
europe
I'll
remind
you
that
there's
a
time
change,
so
it
will
be
a
different
time
of
day,
although
the
same
time
according
to
coordinated
universal
time.