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From YouTube: Internet Society Board of Trustees Meeting 143 - Day 1
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Internet Society Board of Trustees Meeting 143 - Day 1
7-8 March 2019, Kobe, Japan
Agenda available here: https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/meetings/143/
A
A
So
good
morning,
everyone
we
are
here
in
Kobe
in
in
Japan,
welcome
to
the
meeting
of
the
Internet
Society
Board
of
Trustees
number
143.
So
we
have
a
today
a
quite
packed
agenda,
but
I
think
we
will.
We
will
cover
everything
and
before
we
we
basically
start
just
saying
that
the
structure
of
the
agenda
has
been
I
mean
we
have
changed
a
bit
to
accommodate.
You
know
remote
presenters,
because
you
know
it
was
kind
of
like
you
know,
strange
time
zones
at
their
end,
so
so
I
basically
not
chose
to
to
change
the
structure.
A
So
it's
not
basically
the
best
structure
or
the
structure
I
had
in
mind
when
we
were
putting
together
the
agenda
with
Kevin,
but
I
think
it
will
be
good
because
I,
don't
think,
he's
fair
to
make
people
wake
up
at
very
strange
hours,
just
to
give
a
report
or
something
so
so
bear
with
us.
But
I
think
we
have
a
good
agenda
and
we
will
cover
all
the
topics
and
we
will
try
to
basically
know
create
the
flow
between
the
topics
as
we
go.
So
just
you
know,
starting
with
with
point
number
one
as
useful.
A
A
A
Yeah,
thank
you
this
your
it
yeah
tomorrow
we
will
have
a
meeting
with
them
with
their
board.
Actually,
so
we
will
indeed
have
some
discussions
yeah.
Thank
you,
okay,
I'm.
Moving
moving
on
to
two
point
number
two:
as
you
know,
we
usually
no
approve
a
few,
a
few
resolutions
between
between
board
meetings
by
a
vote
per
per
hour,
new
rules,
basically
so
John.
You
want
to
comment
on
on
the
resolution.
D
A
And
there's
no
no
resolution
required
because
we
already
passed
them
so
so
people
agree
that
you
know
they
bowed
was
binding.
So
so
that's
perfect.
Okay,
so
so
moving
on
to
two
point
number
three:
we
had
some
amendments
today
to
the
ISO
bylaws,
which
is
basically
to
capture
in
the
bylaws.
What
we
actually
do
so
so
they
are
in
that
sense
they
are
minor
but
being
changes
in
the
bylaws.
They
are
always
important.
So
we
chose
to
have
a
separate
resolution
to
do
that
so
John,
do
you
want
to
introduce
that
yeah.
D
Yeah
these
are
the
these
are
a
bunch
of
essentially
clerical
changes
that
we
all
discussed
late
last
year.
The
most
important
I
think
the
most
useful
one
is
the
one
that
does
not
require
us
to
have
a
north
korean
style
election
for
andrew
every
year
and
well
one
candidate,
and
then
we
get
100%,
turnout,
yeah,
and
so
so
anyway.
I
believe
everybody's
already
seen
these
and
last
I
heard
everybody
who
everybody
was
was
okay
with
them.
So
unless
there
are
questions
on
them,
I
would
move
that.
We
approve
the
amendments
as
presented.
Okay
can.
D
G
A
The
it
for
the
listeners
I
mean
just
to
clarify
that
the
the
point
is
like
Andrew,
actually
or
or
our
CEO,
which
has
both
titles
president
and
CEO
so
before
we
were
kind
of
voting
twice.
So
this
is
what
what
John
was
referring
to,
that
we
are
fixing
that
so
John
moved
better.
Second
right,
okay,
perfect
and
being
are
changing
the
bylaws.
We
will
go
rogue
so
as
useful.
You
know,
please.
We
will
start
with
Glen
I'm
moving
in
this
direction
and
please
state
name
and
yes,
no
or
abstain.
A
L
M
L
A
There
were
solution
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you.
This
was
kind
of
a
warm-up
resolution.
I
hope
you
can
do
it
faster
next
time,
yeah
thanks.
No!
This
is
important
because,
as
I
said,
I
mean
it's
a
minor
change
but
being
the
bylaws,
it's
always
good
to
to
do
a
rolecall,
okay,
perfect
and
then
moving
on
to
to
number
four
just
we
don't
need
a
resolution
by
these
two
to
talk
basically
about
the
charger
chapters
so
Christine
Christine's
online.
Oh
it's
online,
okay,
yeah
I
was
looking
for
her
in
the
room.
Okay,.
P
Sorry,
I
just
totally
lost
audio
mode.
Switching
over
so
I
want
to
give
a
quick
update
on
recently
d
charter
chapters,
which
might
seems
funny
because
we
usually
give
an
update
on
new
chapters.
So
in
a
nutshell,
there
were
no
new
chapters
since
the
last
board
meeting,
but
we
did
DD
charter
for
a
few
chapters.
Next
slide.
P
Jump
this
one
it's
in
the
agenda
anyways,
so
just
to
give
some
some
background
actually
realize.
I,
don't
have
my
camera
sorry
for
this,
so
we
have
a
few
chapters
that
have
been
inactive
for
a
while
and
with
whom
we
have
started
a
rejuvenation
process
to
ensure
that
all
the
chapters
that
we
actually
have
listed
as
active
chapters
are
indeed
active.
In
some
cases
the
rejuvenation
process
has
re-energized
the
chapters
and
new
and
dynamic
groups
came
in
and
took
over
the
leadership
of
the
chapters
for
six
of
those
chapters.
P
So
the
six
chapters
that
have
been
chartered
over
the
last
month,
our
Belgium
Bologna
Hungary,
Luxembourg,
Mauritius
Qatar
and
the
disability
and
special
needs
chapter
in
some
of
these
cases.
Actually
many
of
these
cases
it
does
open
the
way
for
new
groups
that
have
been
there
and
would
be
interested
in
forming
a
new
chapter.
But
that,
for
various
reasons,
could
not
do
this
them.
Food,
a
rejuvenation,
the
disability
and
special
needs
chapter,
for
example,
is
one
of
it.
P
Next
slide,
so
I
thought
it
might
just
be
interesting
for
you
to
see
what
how
that
affects
numbers.
So
in
currently
in
March
2019,
we
have
120
active
chapters
and
almost
all
of
them
have
now
assigned
to
chapter
charter
letter
state,
the
two
remaining
ones,
we're
still
in
discussion,
live
and
will
hopefully
come
to
a
conclusion
very
shortly.
We
have
eight
special
interest
groups
on
six
seven
chapters
that
are
in
rejuvenation
the
rejuvenation
of
those
started
in
January.
P
So
these
are
groups
that
have
only
only
just
started
a
rejuvenation,
mainly
due
to
the
non
signature
of
the
Charter
letter,
but
also
because
they,
you
know
inactive.
In
most
of
these
cases,
it's
rather
inactive
groups
there
and
sick
the
six
chapters
that
have
been
detracted
in
February
2009
team.
That
I
just
mentioned
till
I,
think
that
was
it
for
the
five
minutes.
A
H
Thanks
for
the
report
question,
the
chapters
that
are
in
rejuvenation
do
they
have
sort
of
a
trial
period
to
get
their
act
together
or
what
what's
the
process
for
them
and
moving
forward
yeah.
P
This
is
also
specified
in
the
processes
that
we
now
published
on
our
website
before
they
go
into
an
official
rejuvenation
phase.
There
is
a
pre
rejuvenation
phase
of
three
months
that
does
not
affect
their
overall
statuses
full
chapters.
So,
during
those
and
three
months
we
Isaac's
staff
actually
works
with
the
group
to
to
hopefully
and
get
the
chapter
back
on
on
its
feet
before
and
I'm,
starting
at
12
months,
which
you
initial
period.
P
A
Thank
You
Willie
any
anything
else:
okay,
excellent.
We
don't
have
any
more
questions.
Thanks
for
the
presentation.
Moving
to
the
next
point,
which
you
know
you
will
be
presenting
as
well,
we're
gonna
have
an
overview
of
Isaac
special
interest
groups.
So
yeah,
please
go
ahead.
P
So
yes,
this
is
an
update
on
the
special
interest
groups
that
we
currently
have.
So
there
are
eight
that
are
chartered
and
focus
on
different
topics
such
as
youth,
women,
community
networking
cybersecurity,
internet
of
food,
locking
into
planetary
networking
and
IOT.
So,
while
most
of
these
well
actually
all
of
these
are
still
fairly
new
and
young
groups.
P
Some
of
them
have
become
actually
fairly
fairly
active
over
the
last
few
years,
mainly
the
youth
and
women
at
the
top
of
the
list,
they're
real,
so
consider
in
terms
of
numbers
there.
The
youth,
some
special
interest
group
is
certainly
one
growing
quickest
in
terms
of
gathering
new
new
members
and
increasing
their
reach.
P
You
can
see
the
dates
there
when
they've
been
chartered
the
numbers
of
members
and
a
quick
overview
of
some
of
the
activities
that
are
worth
mentioning.
There
are
certainly
others,
but
this
is
just
to
give
is
give
you
an
idea
of
what
what
some
of
the
things
are,
that
special
interest
groups
are
working
on.
P
So,
for
example,
the
youth
say
there
had
a
beyond
the
net
large
grant
and
over
the
last
few
years
that
was
focusing
on
creating
Network
networks,
and
that
was
mainly
focused
on
identifying
current
and
existing
initiatives
that
involve
youth
and
and
connecting
the
dots
sort
of
to
increasing
the
network
to
the
women.
Sig
has
a
project
that
is
currently
competing
for
the
for
one
of
the
visits
prices:
2019.
P
They
also
work
very
closely
with
the
CN
campaign
team
community
networks
campaign
team.
The
cybersecurity
sig
did
have
a
series
of
successful
webinars
with
them
in
some
cases
more
than
100
participants
on
them,
where
they
drink
to
bed
together,
experts
on
cybersecurity
issues
and
are
actually
very
successful
in
attracting
participants.
There
keep
that
engagement.
Ongoing
the
internet
of
food
cig
does
also
have
an
upcoming
event,
27th
of
March
in
Sweden,
but
remote
for
a
participation
for
that
one
is
as
possible.
It's
on
the
topic
who
decides
what's
for
dinner.
P
P
We
added
in
a
few
pictures
here
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
some
of
these
activities
might
look
like.
So
this
is
a
picture
on
the
left
hand
from
the
youth
sig.
At
luck,
I
GF
there's
a
lot
a
lot
of
young
people.
Luck.
I
GF
in
2015
was
actually
the
place
where
the
ideas
about
you,
the
youth,
are
IGF,
started
jamming
and
this
group
came
together
to
actually
form
their
special
interest
group
going
forward.
So
many
of
these
SIG's
at
the
beginning
come
out
of
regional
initiatives
and
then
work
on
globalizing
their
school.
P
Well,
chapters
have
a
geographic
scope,
usually
a
national
one,
the
SIG's
and
by
their
nature,
habitable
scope.
So
that's
something
we're
working
on
with
the
SIG's
to
ensure
that
they
become
global
in
scope
and
truly
global
in
scope.
The
women
say
which
photo.
Would
you
see
a
photo?
Our
father
on
the
right
hand,
side
during
an
event
in
Mexico
is
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
most
successful
in
I'm
Deb
versifying
there
they're
bored
with
having
members
from
from
various
regions
sitting
under
their
board
and
are
also
reaching
out
to
recruit
new
members.
P
They
usually
pulled
together
and
specialists
and
on
the
topic
and
and
and
offer
those
and
announced
those
to
the
community
next
slide
so
goals
for
2019,
as
I
mentioned.
Many
of
these
come
from
a
regional
initiative
initially,
so
we
continue
our
work
with
the
SIG's
to
make
sure
that
they
actually
their
globe
their
their
membership,
but
also
their
leadership,
has
a
global
scope
and,
as
representatives
from
all
regions,
we'd
also
like
to
work
more
on
wariness,
raising
around
topics
covered
by
the
SIG's
and
also
sig
activities,
and
through
blogs
and
community
engagement
channels.
P
P
Something
also
on
our
plate
is
are
they're
sick
charter
letters.
So,
while
we
revise
the
chapter
charter
letters
last
year,
the
city
charter
letters
are
now
on
our
plate
this
year.
This
has
a
specific
challenge
because
of
the
global
scope
of
the
SIG's,
it's
difficult
for
them
to
to
register
somewhere.
So
currently
we
have
the
situation
that
none
of
the
SIG's
are
legally
registered
and
have
an
official
bank
account
in
their
name.
P
The
last
point
here
is
that,
as
with
the
chapters,
we
have
the
new
and
performance
evaluation
criteria
that
has
been
beloved
developed
over
the
last
year
by
a
working
group
made
up
of
chapter
volunteers
to
save
volunteers.
So
we
hope
that,
based
on
these
criteria
and
the
new
area,
evaluations
we'll
have
a
better
understand
enough,
actually
impact
and
and
also
areas
where
we
can
better
support
our
chapters
and
cigs
going
forward.
I
believe
this
is
the
last
slide.
A
A
Well
before
I
take
questions.
I
mean
just
again
for
the
structure
of
the
of
the
presentation
and
the
agenda.
As
you
know,
we
usually
have
one
of
the
original
viewers
present
to
us,
but
since
you
know
next
time
we
are
going
to
Montrell
and
and
then
the
North
American
Bureau
will
be
presenting
here,
and
we
have
basically
be
talking
to
all
the
viewers.
We
thought
that
this
time
would
be
interesting
to
just
you
know,
have
a
presentation
on
on
the
special
interest
groups,
and
so
so
that's
why
you
know
you
are
seeing
basically
this
presentation.
A
O
Then
it
was
actually
really
interesting.
I
haven't
realized
the
breadth
of
the
SIG's.
The
question
is
some
of
these
that
sound,
really
interesting
like
the
internet
of
food,
but
how
much
of
that
is
just
because
it's
somebody's
personal
interest
and
it
becomes
a
sig,
and
you
know,
as
opposed
to
you,
know
something
on
cybersecurity
which
actually
has
broader
interest
in
and
deeper
import
for
the
community.
So
and
people
can,
you
know,
create
their
own.
You
know
interest
groups
on
less
than
that,
one
of
the
nice
things
about
the
internet
and
being
online.
O
P
I
can
I
can
maybe
start
yeah
on
this.
Yes,
so
the
the
SIG's
as
I
also
the
chapters.
If
we
receive
an
application,
it's
usually
rebuked
by
stop
first,
but
then
shared
for
a
peer
review
with
the
writer
community
of
the
tenth
meaning
the
chapter
delegates
list
that
usually
goes
for
a
two-week
review
period
of
peer
review,
a
period
during
which
comments
are
received,
and
sometimes
if
the
community
feels
this
is
not
a
topic
that
is
of
interest
to
the
wider
community.
That
would
come
up
during
that
discussion.
P
Or
you
know,
suggestions
to
merge
certain
SIG's
in
terms
of
their
topic
or
overlap
would
come
up
during
that
period
review
period,
where
we
then
reach
out
to
the
to
the
people
who
suggested
as
saying
in
the
first
place,
to
see
how
that
can
be
addressed
or
if
something
could
be
merged,
or
if
that's
not
a
topic
that
is
of
relevance
going
forward
for
the
full
wider
community.
There's
also
the
fact
that
at
the
beginning,
when
at
a
sig
starts
it's
temporary
for
two
years
and
becomes
full.
F
M
Okay,
u-um
Harris.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
got
a
couple
of
questions.
First,
one
is:
is
there
a
concerted
effort
in
terms
of
trying
to
publicize
the
different
SIG's
on
a
regular
basis?
The
reason
I
ask
that
is
because
last
week
the
Singapore
chapter
I
sock,
we
had
a
meeting,
and
so
I
did
mention
about
the
security
chapter
and
the
security
I
s
IG
and
though
it
was
about
the
Deaf
particular
meeting
was
all
about
IOT
security
and
stuff
like
that,
and
none
in
the
audience
even
heard
of
the
chapter
I
mean
yeah.
M
But
in
our
case
here
we'll
be
all
dressed
bid
around
the
world.
But
at
least
that
way
you
have
you
know
in
one
day
you
get
to
listen
to
all
the
different
thoughts
and
whatever
that
might
be,
and
so
at
least
that's
the
immediate
awareness
building
say.
Oh,
this
is
others
sake,
and
this
other
second.
So
not
only
are
you
in
your
own
circle,
but
it
helps
you
to
grow
your
experience
and
interest
as
well.
I
I'm
just
wondering
whether
that'll
be
something
you're
going
to
look
at
and
and
the
second
question
just
to
before.
M
P
I
start
responding
to
the
first
one
that
maybe
choice.
If
you
you
may
help,
but
the
second
one,
so
the
the
I
love
the
idea
of
a
Sig
Fester
hope.
That's
actually
I,
really
like
that
idea.
So
far,
we've
I
think
we
can
improve
a
lot
on
how
we
communicate
about
the
SIG's
and
make
sure
everybody
knows
about
the
existence
of
the
things
in
general
in
a
constitute
way.
I
The
so,
as
Christine
was
saying,
there's
there's
two
two
ways
of
actually
Sun
setting.
One
of
the
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
we
put
in
place
was
a
temporary
status
of
of
SIG's.
Basically,
two
peppers
point
earlier
as
well
as
that.
In
some
cases
some
things
may
sound
like
a
good
idea
at
a
given
moment,
but
is
it
really
addressing
the
needs?
Is
it
really
having
an
impact?
I
So
we
have
a
temporary
status
for
our
special
interest
groups
for
two
years
and
we
have
an
evaluation
in
place
after
that
one
two,
mostly
up
until
this
point,
I
have
to
say
it's
mostly
been
on
activity.
So
are
they
actually
active?
Are
they
are
they're
growing
in
terms
of
members?
Are
the
activities
visible?
Can
we
do
they
work
well
together
in
so
on
and
so
on?
I
So
we
are
now,
as
Christine
was
mentioning
with
the
evaluation
criteria
really
turning
to
what
is
the
impact
of
the
chapters
on
the
one
hand,
but
under
special
interest
groups
as
well,
and
so
the
one
period
of
the
two
years
is
making
it
easy,
because
we
don't
have
to
go
through
the
whole
d.
Chartering
process,
so
it's
an
easy,
quicker
process
to
say
you
know
it
was.
It
was
a
great
idea,
yeah
it
had
its
time,
but
it's
time
to
close
and
it's
under
a
common
agreement.
I
H
I
really
like
her
Isha's
idea
there
that
reminds
me
of
concept
of
facilitators,
usually
used.
It's
called
Cracker
Barrel.
So
you
basically
it's
a
rotation
very
short
presentations
on
a
concept.
So
it's
you
can
rapidly
go
through
these
presentations.
I
think
this
could
be
done
on
a
regular
basis,
but
I
want
to
go
back
to
what
we
did
at
the
IGF
Paris.
If
you
recall
Waleed
and
Olga,
we
had
a
separate
table
separate
from
hi
sock
and
was
for
SIG's.
Not
a
single
piece
of
literature
was
available.
H
I
had
the
NomCom
mail
cards
and
I
had
some
generic
stuff
on
my
sock,
but
there
was
nothing
to
hand
to
people.
So
we
we
had
a
very
busy
booth
at
the
idea,
but
nothing
to
hand
out
to
anybody.
So
that
might
be
something
to
consider
because
sure
we
can
send
them
off
to
the
website.
But
if
you
have
somebody
interested
it'd
be
nice
to
give
some
collateral
or
even
swag.
N
You
thank
you
Christine
for
the
presentation
and
hi
Joyce
hi
Christine,
its
more
common
than
than
question
I,
haven't
seen
all
the
six
rising
up,
which
I
think
is
fantastic,
especially
there
I
think
there
are
four
that
were
born
in
Latin
America.
It's
the
cybersecurity,
youth
community
networks
and
the
women.
N
The
community
has
the
impression
that
is
the
first
one
that
has.
The
idea
is
the
first
one
that
they
get
to
see
so
I
think
that
perhaps
Isaac
organization
could
help
in
building
up
the
the
first
starting
group.
I
didn't
other
people
from
other
regions,
so
it's
not
so
biased
into
one
one:
only
region
and
helping
building
the
first
early
board
to
build
the
sake
and
also
capturing
communities
from
other
regions.
So
it's
it
has.
It
is
more
diverse
and
maybe
having
more
material
for
events
like
IGF
or
regional
ideas.
N
Q
Q
Amazing
tier
the
uniqueness
of
the
eye,
sockets
technology,
impractical
operation,
not
you
know,
voice
to
the
government,
boy,
boy,
boy,
society
from
the
same
or
general
or
point
of
view
so
I'm
afraid.
Who
is
you
know,
overseeing
those
cig
activities,
because
you
know
we
carefully
working
from
the
viewpoint
of
a
technical
expertise.
That
is
the
uniqueness,
the
important
and
the
value
of
the
icer
complete.
Q
Q
P
We
do
have
asked
me:
do
the
chapters
you
have
the
regional
Community
Engagement
managers?
We
have
somebody
current
Schulman
who's,
looking
after
the
six
to
special
interest
groups
and
is
in
touch
on
the
site
with
them
on
it
on
a
regular
basis.
We
also
identified
staff
liaison
persons,
some
on
the
subjects
covered
by
the
SIG's,
who
would
reach
out
and
follow
what
the
SIG's
are
doing.
At
the
same
time,
those
SIG's
like
I,
mentioned
the
community
networks.
P
A
See
ya,
hear
us,
Lee
seems
happy,
he's
happy.
We
are
all
happy.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
we
have
two
more
questions.
Please
be
concise,
so
I
have
a
speaker
and
then
Andrew.
J
Yeah,
quick
one
I'm
not
sure
to
see
how
six
are
really
aligned
with
other
programs
inside
Isaac.
Okay,
there
are
exceptions
you
just
mentioned
one
which
is
quite
well
aligned,
but
others
for
me
still
a
little
bit
more
I
would
call
it
picks
it's
personal
interest
groups
and
not
six.
So
something
goes
a
little
bit
astray,
sometimes
in
those
groups
but
I
believe
as
a
security
group,
it's
one
I'm
following
its
meandering
around
having
very
basic
educational
material.
J
How
to
access
this
at
all
and
a
week
later
at
something
which
is
clovelly
so
I'm
missing
a
little
bit.
The
clear
goals
for
a
chapter
is
to
provide
what
Isaac
does
locally
with
some
local
context.
Some
local
connectivity
with
six
I'm,
not
so
sure
about
it,
adds
and-
and
that's
not
a
specific
question.
It's
more
remarkable.
E
So
my
comment
here,
a
question:
I
guess-
is
related
to
this
thread
that
we've
just
been
talking
about.
So
oh,
you
said,
for
instance,
that
when
things
are
getting
started,
maybe
the
Internet
Society
staff
could
help.
You
know
bring
in
some
people
from
other
kinds
of
interests,
and
there
was
this
question
about
when
a
cig
makes
sense,
or
you
know
what
the
relationship
is
between
the
cig
and
the
wider
Internet
Society
community.
E
It's
important
to
remember
that
just
like
chapters.
These
are
not
internet
society,
corporate
activities,
right,
they're,
independent
organizations
analogous
to
chapters
so
they're
organized
around
around
a
topic,
and
what
that
means
is
that
the
community?
It's
a
community
driven
thing,
and
that
can
mean
that
not
a
and
and
they
don't
have
exactly
the
same
structure
as
as
chapters
I
mean,
for
instance,
they
can't
as
I
guess,
Christine
already
mentioned,
because
they're
not
in
a
place
they're,
not
governed
by
a
national
law
in
the
same
way
that
that
chapter
is
frequently
are
and
so
on.
E
But
there's
still
this
there's
still
this
flavor
of
it
being
you
know
the
community
driving
this
thing
and
we've
had
rather
bad
experience,
for
instance
with
attempting
to
manage
that
kind
of
thing
it
it's
something
that
gets
people's
backs
up
because
they
don't
want
the
Internet
Society
staff
sort
of
trying
to
tell
them.
No,
no,
you
need
to
take
into
account,
for
instance,
the
interests
of
people
who
might
be
interested
in
food
from
Asia
just
to
pick
on
one
on.
E
So
that's
that's
a
sort
of
a
thing
that
I'm
a
little
bit
leery
of
asking
the
the
Internet
Society
staff
to
do
unless
we
can
get
the
chapters
Advisory,
Council
or
some
other
community
body
to
ask
us
to
do
that,
because
I'd
be
very
nervous
about
about
trying
to
try
to
manage
those
things
again.
Remember,
for
instance,
we
do
not
manage
the
positions.
E
The
chapters
take
many
of
you'll
be
aware
that
you
know
the
Internet
Society
chapter
in
France
has
a
position
with
respect
to
Facebook
that
we
do
not
share
as
a
corporate
body
and
and
that's
okay.
That's
the
design
of
that
system
because
we're
a
large
and
diverse
community-
and
we
want
to
we
want
to
encourage
that.
E
If
you
look,
for
instance,
in
the
way
we
handle
SIG's,
you
know
they're
currently
treated
as
a
sort
of
kind
of
version
of
chapters,
which
is
why
they
show
up
in
the
chapters
pages
and
so
on.
We
could
make
a
decision
to
do
that,
but
I
think
in
that
case
we're
gonna
have
to
invest
quite
a
lot
of
effort
in
in
the
SIG's
Thanks.
O
So
I
guess
the
question
going
back
to
my
first
question
and
reframing
it
and
ruby's
I
think
it's
very
helpful.
What
differentiates
and
I
suck
cig
a
Facebook
group.
In
other
words,
there
are
people
who
are
interested
in
food
or
secured
whatever
I
mean
that
there
are
other
avenues
to
have
groups
of
interest,
what
differentiates
or
distinguishes
and
I
suck
you
of
interest
from
any
of
these
others.
O
That
now,
given
all
the
tools
and
platforms
can
can
self
create
on
the
internet,
which
may
have
not
been
the
case
to
have
done
that
as
easily
when
SIG's
were
started
and
I
suck,
because
it
you
know
being
an
I
sock
group
of
interest,
carries
with
it
and
that,
notwithstanding
the
fact,
this
is
part
of
the
conversation
about
the
Parrish
chapter,
notwithstanding
the
fact
that
it's
it
is
independent,
they
do
use
the
I
sock
brand.
They
are
wrapping
themselves
in
the
I
sock,
name
and
cloak
of
credibility.
O
E
We
structured
it
through
this
chapter,
a
charter
letter
and
that
took
quite
a
bit
of
time.
We
haven't
done
that
yet
for
for
special
interest
groups-
and
there
is
this
live
question
of
of
exactly
how
that's
going
to
work.
I.
Don't
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
trivial
piece
of
work
actually
because,
at
least
in
the
case
of
the
chapter,
you
had
the
very
clear
criterion
of
geography.
E
E
If,
if
you
want
my
personal
opinion
about,
why
would
somebody
go
through
the
effort
of
setting
opposite
as
opposed
to
setting
up
like
a
mailing
list
or
setting
up
a
group
on
any
of
the
social
media
platforms
or
whatever
you
like,
I
mean
personally,
probably
I
would
do
it
the
other
way
because
I'm
not
really
fond
of
big
processes.
But
if
somebody
really
wants
to
do
something
within
the
context
of
the
internet
society
or
they
want
access
to
the
chapter
funding
mechanisms
and
so
on,
it's
not
clear
how
those
apply
to
to
special
interest
groups.
E
We
can't,
for
instance,
fund
any
of
them
right
now,
because
they're,
not
bank
accounts,
because
they're
not
in
a
place.
So
so
that's
that's,
actually
a
restriction
that
that
is
carried
from
that.
But
fundamentally,
if
there
is
some
value
in
associating
this
and
doing
it
under
the
umbrella
of
the
Internet
Society,
it
needs
to
come
from.
You
know
the
value
of
the
umbrella
itself,
and-
and
you
know
maybe
later
in
this
meeting-
we're
gonna
have
some
discussions
about
that
I'm
having
to
do
with
organizational
members.
I
Say
yes,
I
just
wanted
to
add
I.
Think
I
want
to
repeat
what
Andrew
said:
I
think
he
covered
he
covered
a
lot
of
what
I
wanted
to
say.
One
of
the
things
maybe
just
to
step
back
is
that
the
the
creation
of
special
interest
groups
is
I
mean
it
goes
back
a
little
bit
in
history.
There
used
to
be
special
interest
groups,
we
stopped
having
them
and
then
actually,
on
request
of
our
community,
we
reactivated
the
special
interest
groups.
I
That
Andrew
was
mentioning,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
they
have
to
basically
have
to
define
what
their
scope
and
focus
is
inner
application,
and
so
that
is
the
the
basis
on
which
the
the
validity,
if
we
can
say
it
like
that
of
the
of
the
topic
and
of
the
application
is,
is,
is
looked
at.
Having
said
that,
over
the
the
last
two
years
that
we
have
the
six
now
we
have
looked
at
activity
rather
than
impact,
and
so
that
is
something
that
we
are
addressing
now
going
forward
as
well.
I
So
this
will
drive
some
of
the
decisions,
decisions
or
some
of
the
discussions.
I
should
say
and
recommendations
on
whether
the
the
sig
is
is
indeed
having
the
impact
that
is
related
to
the
Internet
Society
and
and
not
to
something
random.
That
is
just
a
common
interest,
so
I
think
and
just
to
confirm
what
Andrew
was
referring
to.
I
R
A
M
A
Okay,
good,
okay,
perfect!
Thank
you
and
I
think
this
was
a
great
presentation
to
set
the
scene
for
day
for
the
next
presentation,
which
sees
as
I
said.
You
know,
we
thought
that
you
know
having
a
presentation
on
an
actual.
You
know.
I'm
sick
would
be
interesting.
So
so
we
we're
gonna,
have
you
know
Ellison
and
Lewis
about
Annika
joining
us
and
they're
gonna
be
presenting
then
the
youth
sick?
So
can
you
guys
hear
us
Ellison,
Lucia,
Veronica.
S
A
T
A
T
T
S
S
As
you
might
remember,
in
that
year,
in
that
year,
I
saw
partner
with
the
CGI
of
Brazil
to
launch
a
program
for
youth
in
Latin
America.
So
the
main
objective
was
to
bring
around
youth
from
all
Latin
America
to
the
IGF
in
joão
pessoa,
and
they
were.
They
were
training
on
internet
internet
governance
issues
and
they
saw
a.
S
Possibility
and
a
good
opportunity
to
to
build
something
that
can
be
led
but
used
for
use,
and
that's
why
it
it
started
to
call
like
if
it
is
happened
to
be
a
group
of
young
people.
We've
been
officially
recognized
by
Internet
Society
as
a
special
interest
groups
in
February
2016
and
are
all
our
main
objective.
S
All
this
year
has
been
to
increase
the
participation
of
young
people
in
the
discussion
spaces
in
in
Internet
Governance
forums,
locally,
regionally
region,
regional,
local
and
international,
global
IGF
and
other
types
of
media
as
well,
and
nowadays
we
have
1200
members
that
we
can
come
and
we
have
a
internet
structure
as
well,
a
board
of
directors,
seven
working
committees
for
different
specific
topics
that
help
our
organizations
do
to
work
and
six
regional
groups
because,
as
you
may
know,
we're
also
turned
our
regional
focus
to
an
international
one.
S
T
T
T
S
The
next
point
to
talk
about
and
to
highlight
about
our
all
the
initiatives
that
we
have
done
is
this
book.
We
we
did
a
call
for
papers
in
to
subpoena
pull
up,
so
you
can
write
like
papers
or
interviews,
anything
a
researcher
reach
a
recent,
sorry,
sorry
and
the
book,
and
we
we
launched
his
book
in
2017.
We
had
funding
from
beyond
the
net
and
some
partner
organizations
as
well.
We
have
articles
written
by
youth
people
from
different
parts
of
Latimer
and
we
did
a
translation
from
well.
Sometimes
some.
S
Sometimes
we
received
articles
in
Portuguese
or
in
Spanish,
and
we
translate
them
into
Portuguese,
Spanish
and
all
of
them
into
English.
We
have,
we
had
printed
copies
in
English
and
in
an
important
is
we
give
give
them
away
for
free
in
different
events
that
we
had.
I
can
remember
one
of
them
in
the
IGF
in
Geneva,
where
we
hosted
a
workshop,
and
we
presented
this
book
and
at
the
end
of
the
other
presentation,
we
gave
up
web
some
some
of
those
books
and
we
also
had
them
save
it
in
us.
T
T
T
Events
like
national
average
and
have
eye
space
for
young
people
from
different
fronts
in
America,
no
mad,
no
charter
and
share
experiences
and
learn
with
each
other
to
share
this
knowledge
at
the
big
events
that
happen
after
there
is
the
like
hi
jet.
So
we
had
the
first
edition
Costa
Rica
and
then
we
have
in
Panama.
T
They
have
been
had
in
Argentina
and
we
are
starting
to
organize
the
this
year
edition
that
we
don't
know
yet
where
the
event
will
be
because
we
prepare
with
me,
we
will
eat
this
event
together
with
the
like
a
chef,
because
we
want
fish,
young
people
so
modulus
principle,
food
or
meeting,
but
to
have
an
opportunity
to
break
big
big
big
one.
There
is
the
like
I
Jeff,
because
you
know
they
can
have
a
bigger
experience
and
learn
more
and
share
more.
T
We
had
support
fun,
dawn,
Argentina,
Brazil,
safer
net
Brazil
from
Google
from
facebook,
from
napkin
from
dollar
organizations
and
companies
all
of
the
world,
and
we
we
have
fellowships
for
this
event,
because
we
know
that
young
people,
most
of
the
young
people,
didn't
have
the
money
to
to
travel
further
discuss
this
type
of
events
in
other
countries,
mostly,
so
we
have
fellowship
in
the
three
years
of
David
because
of
this
park
that
really
from
different
companies
and
orientations.
So
this
is
one
of
our
main
projects
and
well
mods.
S
So
the
next
one
is
creating
networks
and
as
a
funny
story
and
I
saw
and
I
where,
where
we
participate
in
the
first
generation
of
the
Fellowship
of
the
you'd.
Like
idea
and
one
was
first
experience
in
Internet
Governance.
So
because
of
that
in
you
today
and
because
of
that
fellowship
I'm
still
working
on
Internet
governance
issues.
So
I'm.
F
S
Very
grateful
of
that
of
that
opportunity
that
I
had
well
creating
networks
is
another
initiative
that
we
have
right
now,
and
this
is
currently
in
our
in
our
priorities
and
we
receive
a
fan
from
Yonder
net
$16,000,
which
is
a
lot
of
money.
But
if
we're
trying
to
handle
that
are,
this
initiative
has
two
main
objectives:
one
is
to
identify
yield
initiatives.
It
was
at
the
beginning,
was
just
identified
using
issue
tips
in
Latin
America,
but
as
we
turn
our
the
you
dr.
S
Today
we
have
already
done
all
the
reach-in
of
those
organizations
with
because
we
we
started
to
with
survey
online
people
were
answering
that
survey
and
then
we
got
in
contact
with
them
and
we
we
got
78
responses
today
today.
So
those
are
78
initiatives
that
are
youth
initiatives
or
try
to
work
with
youth
around
the
world.
We
already
have
contact
them
and
now
we're
in
the
process
to
do
all
the
capacity-building
things
so
we're
going
to
do
webinars
and
one-on-one
meetings
with
them.
S
So
we
can
give
them
all
the
knowledge
that
well,
for
instance,
Internet
Society
has
already
work
on
on
internet
issues.
So
we
are
in
that
point
of
that
project,
and
we
have
a
web
page
in
that
as
well
in
and
yeah
we're
and
as
far
as
I
know
we're
trying
to
make
it
we're
going
to
make
make
our
best
in
this
in
just
a
second.
The
next.
T
Day
you
see
your
infant's
avatar
was
made
by
the
first
difference.
Mirrors
were
from
Latin
America,
because
the
negotiation
was
made
by
the
ambassadors
from
the
fresh
new
pet
IDF
program
and
the
wear
out
from
Latin
America.
So
the
UFC
just
had
the
two
American
members
and
we
had
Spanish
and
Portuguese
language
of
the
organizations.
So
we
well
at
some
points.
We
stop
and
think
that
we
want
to
be
global,
but
we
have
this
language
we
should
solve
before
we
go.
T
So
we
have
a
lot
of
excavations
and
dissertations
before
me.
Where's
me
some
people
I
thought,
and
then
let's
hear
we,
we
need
antennas
internationalization
plan
to
finally
go
global,
so
we
made
some
are.
We
have
like
original
groups
for
our
members
too,
divide
them
and
have
a
bear
like
a
better
way
to
loot
all
to
share
the
experience
and
to
bridge
together
in
projects
and
other
fiends
and
have
a
global
group
with
all
our
members
to
heaven
everyone
integrated
and
sharing
things
and
chapatti.
T
So,
my
last
year,
so
now
we
are
finally
position
and
we
are
always
trying
to
make
it
better,
because
we
always
can
make
things
better,
so
we're
trying
to
make
project
and
make
a
lot
of
things
Aran's
and
try
to
bring
more
people
to
participate.
The
other
ratios
that
we
didn't
have
work
and
we
have
six
new
positions
at
the
board.
There
are
the
regional
directors,
because
we
want
to
have
this
one
person
for
duration,
so
to
have
a
special
focus
in
the
region
and
to
learn
care
what
they
think.
T
T
S
S
We
are
going
to
have
a
call
on
Friday,
so
it's
for
you
tomorrow
and
for
us
it's
in
two
days
with
the
Africa
group
to
discuss
other
projects,
and
mainly
this
one
as
well,
and
we
also
going
to
continue
working
on
this,
creating
networks
that
I've
already
told
you
and
because
we
that's
the
way
how
we
connect
with
other
people,
because
there
are
other
initiatives
on
youth
for
youth
people,
and
but
this
is
how
we
are
trying
to
get
to
know
them.
And
we
are
final
like
point
for
this.
Yet
increase
their
participation.
S
As
we
already
told
you,
that
is
just
one
of
our
main
objectives
and
increase
of
representation
of
our
organization.
Are
you
taking
major
events?
We
have
already
talked
with
Alejandra
Priya
took
from
from
AIESEC,
and
she
she
said
that
it's
going
to
be
possible
for
us
to
send
at
least
someone
from
from
the
UT
to
participate
and
to
have
an
agenda
to
do
some
like
real
work
while
participating
on
those
major
events.
S
Obviously,
if
we're
not
going
to
send
a
person
from
Latin
America
to
an
event
that
is
going
to
be
in
like
in
Japan,
for
example,
it's
going
to
be
the
opposite
is
going
to
be
someone
from
Asia
that
can
attend
a
meeting
in
Japan,
but
that's
a
way
how
we
can
put
them
in
a
position
to
participate,
because-
and
today
we
have
our
members
from
Latin,
America
and
I-
think
all
that
is
in
the
medium.
But
she
cannot.
S
She
can
support
this
idea,
I
think,
but
most
of
the
people
there
are
part
of
the
the
you
take
from
math
America.
Now
they
are
doing
great
things
as
professional
people
and
they
are
creating
their
own
project.
They
are
working
on.
It
is
important
in
important
positions
in
their
countries
and
I
think
that
the
youth
Observatory
is
doing
a
great
job.
S
Creating
this
space
to
give
you
the
opportunity
to
grow
and
that's
why,
for
us,
is
very
important
to
give
this
chances
and
these
opportunities
to
other
people
to
be
part
of
a
group
and
grow
inside
of
them
and,
like
you
know,
it
spread
the
word
about
Internet
and
have
how
beautiful
is
to
work
in
the
in
the
increase
of
open
and
free
internet
for
everyone.
Okay,.
A
Yeah
yeah,
we
need
have
Olga
in
the
room,
so
she's
she's
here
she
was
not
in
and
yeah.
So
thanks
for
the
presentation,
thanks
for
a
compact
info
contact
info
I,
think
it's
good
for
us
also
to
understand.
You
know:
what's
going
on
a
bit
more
in
detail
in
one
of
the
six,
so
so
I
think
that
would
that
was
great,
as
I
said,
I
would
be
interested
in.
You
know.
Having
a
look
at
you
know,
analysis
of
are
connected
youth
book
you
mentioned
I
went
to
the
to
the
website.
A
In
you
know,
a
quick
search,
I
couldn't
find
it.
So
if
you
guys
could
send
that
email
to
I
mean
Olga
Kevin,
whoever
me
to
make
it
available
to
the
board,
that
would
be
great
because
we
would
be
very
interested
in
having
a
look
at
it.
So
so
please,
when
you
have
a
minute,
do
that
and
I
will
take
it
from
there.
Also
I
mean
it's
clear
that
you
guys
have
a
lot
of
energy.
L
First
of
all,
congratulations
I
mean
this
is
really
impressive,
say
one.
Not
we
couldn't
crack
and
I
see
a
CI
G's
is
basically
the
inability
to
have
a
system
or
virtual
presence
of
an
organization
that
can
change
and
not
be
fixed
with
particular
geolocation,
because,
if
you
think
of
it,
in
the
long
run,
it
would
be
possible
that
board
members
would
change,
and
then
the
location
would
change
as
well
or
it
might
be
that
there
could
be
a
virtual
mechanism
in
which
one
can
hand
over
32
others
across
the
world
to
control
bank
accounts,
etc.
L
S
S
F
S
From
Latin
America
will
change,
so
that
means
that
we
need
to
have
people
from
other
parts
of
the
author
of
the
globe
of
the
world.
Also
inside
of
our
structure,
we
should
have
a
person
from
each
region
as
a
point
of
contacts
and
also
as
like
the
leader
of
the
region.
So
that's
going
to
give
that
I
think
it
will
help
us
to
to
to
balance
a
little
bit
all
the
priorities
and
how
to
do
better.
I
think
that
that
will
I
think
that's.
It
really
answers
your
question.
S
L
S
For
all
these
years,
we
we
receive
funding,
as
you
may
already
listened,
and
but
we
we
receive
funding
to
our
members
so
to
our
personal
accounts,
and
we
have
been
very
careful
with
all
the
money,
because
it's
another
account
that
we
try.
We
also
always
share
that
that
that
information
in
the
board,
so
we
already
know
how
much
money
we
have
left
and
things
like
that
and
but
in
the
future
I.
S
One
of
the
problems
that
we
do
have
is
that
we
are
not
in
we're
not
official
in
one
country
and
it's
quite
difficult
to
be
efficient,
more
country
because
they
laws
in
each
country
are
different
and
maybe
they
will
require
us
to
be
present
or
they
will
require
that
all
the
members
sign
I
mean
or
if
some
something
like
that.
So
that's
one.
That's
a
bottleneck
for
sure.
T
A
N
Not
Salah,
very
briefly,
hello,
dear
dionan
and
Khadija.
Thank
you
for
for
your
work.
I've
been
following
you
since
Joao
pessoa
and
you're
great
I,
think
you'd
do
a
great
job
and
the
incredible
things.
That
is
that
you
accepted
me
as
a
member
of
the
youth
Sea,
which
is
remarkable.
Thank
you
for
that
and
I
would
like
to
I
am
one
of
the
78
respondents
of
your
survey
and
I
would
like
to
know
how
do
you
plan
to
publish
the
results
of
the
connect,
creating
networks
project
that
you
are
working
on?
Thank
you.
T
F
Thank
You
Ann
to
conclude
Richard.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
the
presentation
guys,
one
of
the
topics
that
came
up
in
in
the
earlier
discussion
of
SIG's
was
looking
at
impacts,
and
you
know
the
impact
these
things
are
having
in
the
world.
Obviously
you
know
Internet
Governance
is
like
other
stuff.
It's
easy
to
kind
of
have
meetings
and
talk
about
things
and
not
get
real
action.
So
I'm
curious,
like
what
do
you
guys
think
are
the
things
that
the
youth
sig
has
done
that
have
had
the
most
kind
of
real-world
impacts.
T
S
We
release,
we
wrote
all
the
girls
cute
Observatory,
we
did
online
pressure
and
we
wrote
a
women
decoration
for
for
young
young
women
crazy
for
girls
and
how
how
we,
how
we
see
all
this
like
in
turn
and
how
Internet
is
affecting
our
life
and
how
we
are
shaping
the
internet.
That
decoration
is
online
as
well
and
how
it
this
decoration
impact,
the
internet,
governance
or
internet
accustomed
with
it.
S
My
my
colleague
or
my
friend
from
the
youth
sake
she
presented
this
on
iff
and
then
we
presented
it
also
on
the
eye
yeah
and
then
now
they
have
a
exactly
seek
just
for
women,
and
they
have
this.
This
seek
for
women
and
the
members
and
the
founders
of
this
seek
are
also
members
and
founders
of
the
of
the
Internet
Society
music.
So
this
is
how
they
they
see
this
ascent
as
a
very
big
opportunity
where
they
can
start
building
their
own
projects
and
their
own
thing.
A
Okay,
excellent
yeah,
so
we
don't
have
any
more
questions.
We
are
a
bit
behind
the
schedule,
but
I
thought
it
was
a
good
presentation
and
worth
getting
those
few
extra
questions.
So
if
you
accept
it
Olga
who
is
in
in
her
30s,
would
you
accept
someone
in
my
four
days
in
the
group?
There
was
just
a
rhetorical
question
by
the
way.
Thank
you
very
much
and
please
don't
forget
to
send
us
the
link
to
the
book.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
useful
because
we
are
truly
interested
I'm.
A
You
know,
I
I
was
actually
actively
looking
for
it.
I
was
probably
clumsy
enough
not
to
find
it
but
yeah.
It
would
be
great
to
have
it.
So.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
and
also
thank
you
to
to
Christine
enjoys
I
think
is
super
late
in
Europe,
so
it
must
be
like
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
2:30.
So
thanks
a
lot
and
sorry
for,
for
you
know
keeping
you
guys
up
so
late.
So
thank
you.
Everyone
and
thanks
for
the
presentation
again.
Q
A
Bye,
bye,
okay,
perfect,
so
we
are
supposed
to
have
a
break.
So
let's
make
it
a
bit
shorter
than
plan.
So,
let's
break
for
ten
minutes.
We
have
plenty
of
bad
for
later,
but
you
know
let's
try
to
be
back
at
so
let's
say:
22.
Okay,
we
are
back
as
I
said,
we
are
a
bit
behind
schedule,
but
it
was
good
because
I
thought
the
the
discussion
zone
6.
They
were
very
useful.
Actually,
ok!
So
now
we
have
I
mean
we
have
a
bit
of
buffer
time
in
the
agenda,
so
it
should
be
ok.
A
So
again,
you
know,
I
would
ask
both
Olga
and
Glen
when
you
give
the
reports
to
be
a
bit
concise
and
the
questions
the
same
thing.
So
you
know
going
to
number
point
number
seven
in
the
agenda,
which
is
first
two
to
get
the
report
from
the
I
soak
nominations
committee,
the
I
sub,
Nam,
Kham,
so
Glen
the
floor
is
yours.
Thank.
H
You
I'll
be
really
short,
okay,
so
next
slide.
So
this
is
the
the
team
that
we
put
together
in
terms
of
the
evaluators
of
the
applications.
As
you
can
see,
a
number
of
us
are
board
members
and
thanks
to
Richard,
he
suggested
a
couple
of
the
other
names
as
well,
which
are
excellent,
evaluators
next
slide.
H
H
H
Our
slates
were
announced
back
in
February
first
and
then
we
had
the
nail-biting
period
of
waiting
to
see
if
there
was
any
petitions
and
good
news
is
that
we
didn't
have
any
and
we
sent
back
to
the
list
again
still
in
February
25th
the
final
slate
and
then
we
handed
it
over
to
Malik
for
the
election.
So
this
is
the
breakdown,
so
we
had
three
from
North
America.
We
shortlisted
three
from
North
America
your
interview
process
3
from
5
from
asia-pacific
were
in
the
final
interview
process.
H
H
So,
in
terms
of
the
gender
representation
on
the
slate
we
had
three
females
and
for
males
I'm,
pretty
pleased
with
that
I
think
we
almost
have
under
%
parity,
but
it
was
a
pretty
successful
gender
effort.
They
slate
by
region,
3
from
North
America
from
asia-pacific
3
from
Latin
America
1/4
from
Europe
and
one
from
Africa
on
a
slate.
H
So
this
is
the
now
into
the
election
mode.
We
have
teach
called
bday
he's
or
African
representative
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
second
person
is
no
idea
Harish
and
by
the
way,
Harish
did
a
spectacular
job
on
his.
The
one-on-one
interview
that
we
had
Mickey
and
Mike
and
Michael
Goodwin
is
is
incredible.
He's
an
icon
in
the
community
as
well.
H
Susanna,
Olga
and
Chester.
All
did
really
well
in
the
from
this
chapter
slate.
Next,
one
so
again,
as
mentioned,
there's
no
petition,
so
it
was
fairly
uneventful
that
way
so
observations.
Three
members
of
the
interviewed
list
didn't
attend
a
designated
interview
slots.
That's
a
long
story.
Don't
have
time
right
now,
and
some
of
it
I
think
is
maybe
a
little
confidential
you'll
see
it
in
the
the
board
authorize
report
for
you
to
get
more
details.
H
You
can
talk
to
me
privately
as
I
mentioned
30-minute
interviews,
good
gender
equity
in
the
slates
suggestion
to
all
candidates
in
this
is
for
the
next
NomCom
chair
is:
please,
take
the
effort
and
do
some
research
and
and
myself
and
our
Kevin
and
I
we're
talking
well.
Should
we
remind
them
and
I'm
sort
of
of
the
belief
that
they're
big
boys
and
girls,
they
should
really
take
the
times
research
if
they're
going
to
try
to
be
a
board
member
read
the
plan
radical
thought,
but
perhaps
we
should
remind
them
in
the
future.
H
There
was
slight
modifications
and
the
questions
there
was
some
excellent
suggestions
in
terms
of
questions
were
asked
in
terms
of
conflict
of
interest.
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
don't
understand
what
that
means,
and
that's
been
incorporated
and
there's
more
details
in
the
written
report
on
suggestions
and
observations.
M
Yes,
Harrison
just
one
comment
in
case
you
don't
know:
Mike
Godwin
is
the
chap
who's,
whose
name
is
used
to
as
a
basis
for
a
Goodwin
law.
Forgotten
in
law
means
any
discussion,
this
team
degrees
until
he
reaches
discussion
on
neck
Nazism.
So
then,
at
which
point
the
discussion
stops,
so
that
law
is
named
after
him
he's
the
one
who
crafted
it:
okay,
okay,.
G
A
H
D
H
Totally
agree
with
you
I
think
we
need
to
do
some.
There's
flu
and
I'm
not
sure,
maybe
get
the
word
out
a
little
bit
better,
but
some
people
really
don't
understand
what
it
is
to
be
a
board
member
and
they
don't
prepare
themselves
properly
and
and
for
the
interviews
for
me,
yeah
yeah
I
think
the
chapters
need
some
work
in
terms
of
you
know
putting
forward
like
Olga,
obviously
spectacular,
because
she
knows
right
the
way
of
things,
but
but
some
of
them
are
just
not
that
good,
okay,
Oh
Olga
last.
N
Year
we
got
more
candidates
from
chapters
more
than
those
four
organizations
again.
I
have
said
this
before
I
think
this
is
a
misunderstanding
of
the
role
of
the
board
in
relation
with
chapters,
so
I
think.
Maybe
we
can
work
on
that
and
explain
also
the
expectations
from
the
chapters
to
our
role
in
the
board.
It's
different.
What
really
we
have
to
do
so?
Maybe
some
education
on
that
could
help
having
better
candidates
and
for
those
in
the
board,
doing
the
work
and
the
way
they
expect.
Yes,.
A
So
last
year
we
talked
about
that
when,
when
Olga
was
was
driving
this
and
and
this
year
you
know
we
had
these
again
so
can
I
ask
Glen
and
Olga
to
put
something
together
and
because
I
guess
when,
when
you
mean
education,
you
mean,
like
brief
brief
type
of
description
or
write,
I
mean
you
are
not
thinking
of
something
yeah.
Okay,
so
yes
comment.
N
Also,
some
I
don't
know.
Maybe
you
have
that
experience.
I
know
many
people
that
apply
not
this
year
the
year
before,
for
example,
and
I,
was
chairing
and
they
get
very
disappointed
when
they
don't
get
elected
or
in
the
in
the
shortlist
and
and
I
explained
to
them
that
it's
it's
it's
a
list
and
we
do
interviews
and
we
we
are
group
that
make
decisions
based
on
different
things,
so
that
also
the
expectations
that
created
that
the
people
who
apply
it's.
It's
it's
sometimes
difficult
to
explain
afterwards.
I,
don't
know
how
to
solve
that.
Yeah.
B
Well,
I
wanted
to
add
the
one
thing
that
worked
really
well
and
compared
to
the
previous
year.
Is
that
this
time
the
candidates
definitely
did
select,
which
which
kind
of
route
they
want
to
run
for?
So
we
didn't
get
applicants
saying
yes,
I
want
to
be
in
Chapter
or
yes,
I
want
to
be
in
both
which
make
things
complicated
for
the
NomCom,
so
they
were
really
precise.
I
mean.
A
H
The
what
Olga
has
mentioned
in
terms
of
educating
people
on
in
terms
of
what
the
roles
and
responsibilities
are
as
important
but
I
think
one
of
the
disappointments
we
had.
We
had
one
person
who
is
supposed
to
be
a
volunteer
and
fortune.
She
had
other
work
obligations
so
other
than
that
as
a
whole,
like
pepper,
John
and
and
Desiree.
They
were
really
quite
supportive
because
we
worked
as
a
team
rather
than
me
just
asking
Paul
the
question.
So
you
know
because
we
we
did
it
intelligently
when
we
asked
a
question,
we
heard
what
they
said.
H
We
did
a
follow-up
question
to
that.
So
we
had
some
flexibility,
there's
a
lot
of
questions,
but
you
just
can't
go
through
them
just
one
after
another.
You
have
to
be
flexible
based
on
the
person
too,
so
I
think
we
captured
that
yeah.
There's
yeah
and
I
saw
the
questioning
the
questions
in
that
report.
Yeah
yeah,
so
you
know,
there's
a
public
version
of
that
report
to
go
up
to
which
is
Kevin
I'm,
not
sure.
When
should
that
go
on
it's.
O
Yeah
I
had
nothing
to
compare
it
to
since
the
first
time.
I
did
it,
but
I
thought
it
actually
number
one
Glenn
was
terrific,
as
chair
and
and
I
really
appreciated
it
also
because
of
the
way
Glenn
just
said,
which
was
you
know,
there'd
be
a
question
but
then,
based
on
the
answer,
the
FOB
there
could
be
a
follow-up
instead
of
just
something
that
was
going
to
go
off
in
a
not
relevant
direction.
O
I
thought
that
was
actually
quite
useful
and
then
there
is
not
on
the
Omak
on
the
organizational
side,
but
the
chapter
saw
I
mean
it
was
you
know
it's
the
range,
let's
put
it
that
way
of
people
who
you
know
lied
that
we
had
to
go
through.
It
was
quite
extreme,
okay
and
I
think
any
way
to
provide
any
structure
around,
not
just
what
the
role
of
the
board
is,
but
the
types
of
maybe
the
way
to
think
about
it
is.
O
A
Exactly
so
so,
as
I
said,
you
know,
I
mean,
as
you
know,
in
import
effect.
We
have,
you
know
the
church
of
every
community.
They
they
basically
have
a
description
of.
You
know
activities
to
be
done
you
in
the
year
and
that's
for
every
committee,
so
so
Glenn
I
mean
you
know.
The
church
did
typically
update
that
before
handing
it
over
to
the
next
chair
in
the
AGM,
so
you
could
work
together
with
with
Olga
and
of
course,
I
mean
the
whole.
A
The
whole
committee
in
you
know
putting
together
these
thoughts
and
maybe
providing
some
ideas,
or
even
some
proposed
text.
I
think
that
would
be
perfect.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
Glenn
and
the
whole
team.
So
so,
let's
see
how
the
elections
go.
We
are
all
looking
forward
to
that.
Okay,
before
before
going
into
the
PIR
NomCom
report,
that
Olga
is
going
to
give
I
need
a
I
mean
I,
have
an
action
point
for
John.
So
just
to
note
that
we
have
received
reports
every
we
usually.
A
As
you
know,
we
get
reports
from
several.
You
know
people
and
some
sometimes
you
know
they
choose
to
be
in
person
or
remotely,
and
this
time
they
chose
to
send
a
written
report.
So
we
got
written
reports
from
the
IAB
and
the
IETF
LLC.
So
if
you
could
capture
that
in
the
meetings
we
got
written
reports
from
IAB
and
ITF
LLC
and
if
you
guys
go
to
the
meeting
material
page,
you
will
find
in
there.
So
please
go
ahead
and
read
them,
and
if
we
have
any
questions
they
they
are
available
to
answer
them
good.
A
So,
having
said
that,
then
we
we
are
moving
to
point
number
eight
in
the
agenda,
Oh
true
yeah
yeah.
We
accept
the
report.
Yeah,
that's
true!
Thanks,
sorry,
so
I
need
someone
to
move.
So
this
removes
and
alga
seconds
and
we're
gonna
do
yeah
show
of
hands.
Actually
so
so
we
I'm
gonna
be
asking
for
yes/no
abstain.
So
everybody
in
favor,
please
raise
your
hand,
no
votes
abstentions.
So
the
resolution
passes
unanimously
thanks,
John,
okay
and
as
I
said,
you
know.
A
N
So
the
PIR
noncom
committee
was
composed
by
Glenn.
Mcknight
has
pitted
Hitler
Harish,
polite
John,
Levine
and
Olga
is
the
chair.
We
had
a
call
for
candidates
for
the
period
board,
I
didn't
prepare
slides
because
my
my
internet
didn't
work
and
it
my
file
was
in
the
cloud.
Sorry
for
them,
so
I
can
see
it
now.
So
we
published
the
call
for
candidates
in
three
languages:
Spanish,
English
and
French.
We
had
21
applications,
20
self
nominations
and
won
by
a
third
party,
but
it
was
never
completed,
so
we
just
considered
20
of
them.
N
The
original
balance
was
quite
okay
and
three
candidates
from
Africa,
four
from
Asia
Pacific
for
from
Europe,
three
from
Latin
America
and
the
Caribbean
two
from
Middle
East
and
four
from
North
America,
gender
balance,
15
male
and
five
female,
and
we
one
remarkable
thing
is
that
the
committee
was
present
in
all
the
calls
and
in
all
the
interviews.
So
that
helps
a
lot
for
the
work
because
we
could
agree
it
directly
in
the
in
the
calls.
So
that
was
appreciate
that
very
much
I
know
we're
all
very
busy,
but
that
was
very
very
helpful.
N
So
we
reviewed
we
had
previously
from
PIR
received
matrix
with
the
the
different
needs
that
they
they
would
have
and
in
candidates
or
members
of
the
board.
And
so
we
work
with
that
as
a
basis
for
the
questions
and
for
the
interviews
and
after
review
a11
comment:
I
received
an
email.
Yesterday
night
I
circulated
to
the
members
of
the
committee
just
for
their
knowledge,
one
of
the
candidates
who
was
not
selected
in
the
shortlist
and
withdraw
her
application
because
she
got
a
new
job.
N
N
Four
candidates
and
then,
after
making
the
interviews
to
the
four
candidates,
the
committee
decided
to
unanimously
to
select
three
candidates
of
the
four
Lucifer
who
is
currently
the
PR
board
member
and
chair
Keith,
Davidson
and
Greg
Kupfer.
So
the
terms
for
the
three
of
them
is
three
years
and
we
also
suggested
some
changes
to
the
process
starts
with
the
interviews
earlier.
One
comment
about
that
is
that
we
decided
to
have
a
longer
period
for
for
for
the
applications,
just
maybe
having
more
candidates.
N
So
this
is
why
we
started
bless
you
after
a
little
bit
late,
try
to
spread
the
news
about
the
call
for
candidates
more
widely
to
receive
a
larger
pool
of
candidates.
We
received
only
twenty
one
or
twenty,
as
if
we
are
usually
promotes
the
colorful
candidates,
if
not,
they
should,
or
they
could
do
des
I
tried
to
bring
candidates
from
different
ecosystem.
This
final
comment
generated
some
other
comments
in
the
list,
which
are
the
ecosystems
I.
Don't
know
if
other
members
of
the
community
would
like
to
add
any
any
comment
about
that.
So
that's
that's!
N
G
A
A
N
And
again,
in
the
same,
but
this
is
more
specific:
we
had
several
candidates
that
really
had
no
good
candidates
as
professionals
and
colleagues,
but
they
didn't
have
the
experience
and
the
knowledge
for
this
board,
which
is
more
specific,
and
it's
also
related
with
with
the
registry
that
runs
the
business.
So
maybe
that
information
should
be
more
precise
when,
when
people
decide
to
apply
or
not
because
then
get
the
feeling
that
they
were
not
selected
and
didn't
understand.
Why.
A
M
Hurry,
thank
you
just
to
follow
up
on
what
the
two
bullet
points
that
was
the
second
the
last
bullet
point
something
that
I
brought
up
in
our
final
meeting,
because
my
question
is,
since
this
is
a
fairly
narrow
spectrum
of
experience,
in
terms
of
whom
we're
targeting
to
be
on
a
board
of
this
nature.
Would
it
not
be
better
that
we
also
target
the
advertising
and
the
outreach
to
the
guys
who
run
all
the
various
TLDs?
M
M
Yeah,
that's
right,
yeah.
That
was
one
person
yeah
yeah,
but
the
thing
is
we
didn't
get
that
many
at
all,
which
would
be
probably
a
suggestion
that
maybe
the
information
doesn't
get
out
that
far
enough
or
maybe
that's
why
the
phrase
the
word
ecosystem
is
used,
so
the
ecosystem
in
which
bless
you
bless.
You
will
be
useful
to
look
at.
Thank
you.
M
O
And
Peter
quick
question,
so,
given
what
have
you
said,
what
do
we
mean
by
candidates
from
different
ecosystems?
If
what
we're
focused
on
a
focus
on
our
people
who
actually
have
experience
right
in
this
ecosystem?
What
did
what
do?
What
does
that
mean.
D
G
D
A
A
J
Just
to
clarify
it
a
little
bit
it's
okay
to
look
for
or
to
look
into
as
a
registry
steelies
or
whatever
to
find
people,
but
at
the
same
time
you
must
make
it
very
very
clear
that
we
consider
it
a
conflict
of
interest
if
they
are
still
staying
in
a
position
at
one
of
those
organizations.
So
don't
attract
them
and
then
say:
oh
sorry,
you
can't
do
both.
H
Going
back
to
the
first
start,
two
interviews
earlier
I'm
just
wondering
about
the
logistics
and
if
there's
going
to
be
a
problem
because
it
they
Nam
Kham,
finishes
fairly
late
in
the
game
as
well.
So
will
this
be
a
problem
for
the
next
phenom
next
conduct?
Next
Nam
Kham?
If
you
move
the
interviews
closer
because
it's
a
you
know
a
lot
of
work
for
a
Kevin
to
organize
all
the
interviews
and
stuff.
So
what
are
you
looking
at
a
week
to
three
weeks
and
from
the
timeline
you
started
this
year?
I.
N
Don't
have
an
answer
for
your
question.
What
we
decided
at
the
previous
stage
is
that
we
wanted
a
longer
period
for
so
people
could
apply.
So
this
is
why
interviews
were
later
in
the
in
the
calendar.
We
should
reorganize
and
try
not
to
make
Kevin
crazy
with
all
the
interviews
and
and
and
align
one
process
with
the
other
one
not
not
to
be
over
overlapped.
That's
my
general
comment.
J
Because
I
fear
it
was
my
idea,
or
it
was
my
intervention
to
rights
as
into
the
sentence.
What
I
meant
was
doing
the
interviews
a
little
bit
earlier
meant
also
starting
with
the
application
period
a
little
bit
earlier,
so
the
whole
process
moved
two
or
four
weeks
earlier
to
have
just
more
time
to
schedule
the
interviews
and
still
the
same
time
for
applications.
A
D
A
True
I
always
forget
to
accept
the
report
yeah
thanks,
good,
that
you
know
we
have
John
here.
So
so.
First,
let's
accept
the
report.
We
don't
have
any
further
questions.
Okay,
good!
So
who
moves
Glenn
moves,
hurry
seconds
and
the
same
thing
you
know
show
of
hands.
So
yes,
hey,
sorry,
I.
A
So
just
raise
your
hand
when,
when
I
go
for
abstain
and
I
will
I
will
know
that
so
yes,
votes,
no
abstentions.
Okay,
so
there
are
solution
passes
with
eleven
yeses
and
one
abstention.
Excellent.
Thank
you.
Yeah
I
know
I'm
giving
John
one
minute
to
capture
this
I'm,
not
I'm,
missing
or
anything,
okay.
A
A
Thank
you
and
I
guess
most
of
you
know
all
of
them.
Actually,
okay,
good,
so
I
need
someone
to
move
Olga
pepper
ii
and
again
you
know
we're
gonna,
do
a
show
of
hands.
So,
yes,
votes,
no
vote
abstentions.
So
the
resolution
passes
with
eleven
positive
votes
and
one
abstention.
Okay,
yeah!
This
is
reps
thing:
okay,
I
am
Glenn!
Please
you.
A
A
It
is
being
broadcast
yeah,
so
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure
how
many
people
we
have
watching,
but
is
public
yeah,
exactly
okay,
so
but
I
mean
you
will
take
care
of
communicating
with
them
right.
Okay,
good
and
we
are
meeting
the
PIR
board
tomorrow.
So
in
any
case
we
are,
we
are
all
yeah,
okay,
good!
Thank
you
so
so
that
concludes
point
number,
nine
in
the
agenda
and
and
now
we
are
only
a
few
minutes
behind
so
so
you
know
thanks
for
for
speeding
things
up.
That
was
great
okay.
A
So
now
we
have
point
number
10
in
the
agenda,
which
is
the
proposal
to
update
the
committee
charters
by
by
the
syrian.
They
have
been
working
within
the
Governance
Committee
and,
and
you
you
guys,
have
a
proposal
in
the
am
in
the
materials.
So
I
hope
you,
you
all
had
a
look
at
it.
I
myself
had
some
comments
on
that.
So
I
was
talking
to
this
area
and
Sean.
That
I
mean
he
was
also
working
on
that.
So
you
know
we
have
allocated
25
minutes
now.
A
B
Thank
You
Gonzalo,
so
this
is
the
the
proposal:
how
to
update
all
board
standing
committees
charter-
the.
As
you
know,
one
of
the
main
tasks
of
the
Governance
Committee
is
to
from
time
to
time,
review
the
ISO
governance
documents
and
make
recommendations
to
the
board
to
adopt
those
recommendations,
and
this
is
one
of
those.
So
what
we
have
here
is-
and
you
have
also
have
seen
it
in
the
board
book-
and
you
have
also
seen
it
in
the
mailing
list.
B
We
have
a
proposal
whereby
we
suggested
all
the
committee
charters
become
more
unified,
so
we
have
six
elements
that
we'd
like
to
include
into
all
of
the
charters.
There's
also
some
specific
chart
changes
to
specific
charges
so,
but
the
overall
one
is
called
the
text
that
we
can
go
through
now
and
then
take
on
specific
charge
changes
later
on
and,
as
you
said,
we
may
want
to
maybe
make
some
changes
that
has
been
no
feedback
on
the
list.
So
I
presume
that
everyone
is
fine
with
the
disability.
B
I
think
for
the
benefit
it
was
distributed
last
Wednesday,
so
it's
exactly
week
from
one
week
from
from
now.
So
so,
if
we
want
to
go
just
through
the
old
committee
charter
to
get
everyone
to
speed,
the
the
proposed
text
for
adoption
is
as
follows:
I
think
I'll
have
Karen.
Do
you
have
that
up
on
the
screen.
B
B
A
B
L
B
So
the
only
change-
maybe
we
should
just
go
through
the
changes,
then
to
make
it
through
the
red
line,
to
make
it
easier
and
quicker
is
the
meetings
part,
and
the
only
change
here
is
that
we
we
said
that
the
chair
of
the
committee
usually
calls
for
a
committee
meeting.
However,
any
member
of
the
committee
could
also
convene
or
call
for
a
meeting.
So
that's
that's
change,
number
one
and
then
we'll
go.
Are
you
following
now?
Gonzalo
yeah
yeah,
yeah
yeah.
A
Not
a
change,
that's
right!
So
are
we
on
the
same
page,
because
I
got
kind
of
conflicting
views
on
that?
So
the
point
is
like
last
time.
We
did
that
like
what,
last
year
or
two
years
ago,
we
already
had
a
common
part,
so
I'm
hearing
that
some
people
think
this
is
a
new
thing
is
not,
and
that
was
what
I
was
getting
confused.
So
this
is
ready
in.
R
R
A
So
so
then,
then,
let's
go
through
there
through
the
red
part.
So
so
here
the
first
thing
I
was
asking
Sean
yesterday
and
but
I
would
like
to
ask
John
because
we
were
not
sure
so
they
did.
The
red
text
refers
to
special
meeting.
Where
is
that
be
fine,
because
Sean
and
I
we
thought
that
that's
kind
of
like
a
term
that
is
defined
somewhere,
but
we
are
not
sure
so.
K
It's
section
six,
six
in
the
BIOS
and
it
says
special
board
meetings.
A
special
board
meeting
special
meetings
of
the
board
may
be
called
at
any
time
by
the
executive
by
the
chair
of
the
board
by
the
president
of
the
Society
or
by
a
majority
of
the
members
of
the
board.
Then
in
office
special
meetings
may
be
held
it's
a
time
to
places
designated
in
the
call
for
the
meeting.
In
absence
of
such
a
designation
and
the
call
for
a
meeting,
the
chera
board
may
designate
the
place
a
special
meeting
now
for
committees.
K
K
A
K
It
says
it
says
anyone
so
anyone
right
and
then
the
the
ones
that
allow
that
require.
Two
are
the
ones
where
we
have
external
port
numbers.
So
it's
all
the
nomination
committees.
So
the
idea
is
that
we
have
people
that
are
external,
that
we've
picked
like
Chris.
Would
you
know
the
high
stock
nominations
committee
and
we
ever
have
somebody
external
on
a
PIR?
My
assumption
is:
is
it's
a
catch
to
make
sure
you?
You
have
to
have
two
people
colluding
to
have
a
meeting
that
wanted
to
have
a
meeting
and
not
tell
anybody
right.
K
A
But
but
I
mean
but
to
be
clear,
it's
not
that
they
can't
call
for
a
meeting
and
not
tell
em
anyone
so
the
end
the
announcement
requirement.
It
is
still
there.
So
exactly
so.
The
question
is:
do
we
want
that
or
we
want
to
basically
get
anyone
from
any
committee
can
called
for
a
meeting
so
that
that's
the
decision
point
we
have
I.
B
A
B
The
first
thing
of
the
meeting,
so
the
the
next
part,
is
the
chair
appointments.
So
what
happens
is
that
all
the
chairs
are
elected
at
the
AGM
and
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
is
for
all
of
the
committee's.
Although
some
of
the
committees
like
election
committees
get
a
committee
gets
formed
and
members
get
confirmed
afterwards
still
at
the
AGM,
we
would
elect
the
nominate,
the
trustee
to
be
the
election
chair
and
that's
the
yeah.
That's
that's
the
little
amendment
here,
yeah.
A
So
so,
then,
if
we
go,
I
mean
I've
been
trying
to
make
sure
that
what
we
put
here
is
consistent
with
with
all
their
charters.
So
if
we
go,
for
example,
the
NomCom,
the
ice-truck
nam
koong
there's
an
addition
in
red
that
says
the
member
of
the
committee
shall
be
appointed
by
the
board
at
a
time
of
his
choosing,
but
we
are
already
saying
that
here
so
probably
we
don't
need
to
repeat
it
in
the
in
a
noncom,
for
example,
the
NomCom
charter.
A
B
K
B
The
committee
reports-
we
also
added
this
part
to
say
that
there
is
a
duty
on
chair
to
produce
a
report,
at
least
at
annual
report.
We
know
that
some
other
committees,
like
Finance
Committee,
produced
quarterly
reports,
but
to
make
it
more
consistent
and
I
think
it's
better
to
keep
it
as
an
annual
report.
Therefore,
it
refers
to
all
the
charges.
B
A
And
that's
also
like
I
mean
I
would
like
to
ask
people
because
I
mean.
Currently
we
don't
do
that.
Let's
say
for
a
compensation
committee.
We
don't
write
a
report
and
for
the
executive
community
we
don't
write
a
report,
so
there's
a
set
of
committees
that
we
never
write
a
report.
Do
we
want
to
force
that
for
every
committee
or
not
the
proposal
is
is
basically
to
do
it
for
every
committee.
So.
K
Some
respects
just
saying:
hey:
we
did
our
job
like
we
met,
we
had
a
couple
meetings.
We
discussed
the
things
that
we
were
supposed
to
in
the
Charter.
That's
it
that's
bollocks
done
in
your
report
and
finance.
You
may
want
to
go
more
to
say
we
did
these
things
quarterly.
We
noted
these
things
that
went
up
or
down
things
decisions
that
we
made
to
help
people
for
next
year,
but
for
some
of
the
committees
which
were
it
would
be
almost
entirely
confidential.
You
could
just
say
that
meeting.
K
A
A
A
A
K
K
A
A
Unchanged
so
maybe
yeah
we
can
introduce
that,
so
the
proposal
is
to
add
the
member
must
not
receive
this.
Is
the
Finance
Committee
again,
it's
not
audit,
because
for
audit
we
always
had
special
conflict
of
interest
rules.
This
is
for
Finance,
which
would
read
the
member
must
not
receive
or
accept,
directly
or
indirectly
any
consultant
advisory
or
other
compensatory
fees
from
isochoric
subsidiaries
or
affiliates,
except
for
that
which
is
incident
to
serving
on
the
board
of
the
committee.
A
G
A
B
B
A
A
We
should
see
the
rest
of
the
members
of
the
committee,
so
that
was
what
I
mean
it's
a
silly
thing,
but
that
that
was
what
I
was
reacting
to
before
yeah
thanks
and
then
then
I
think
again,
I
mean
I'm,
trying
to
dwell
on
the
on
the
special
conflict
of
interest,
because
I
don't
want
anyone
to
be
surprised
with
this,
which
is
that
the
proposal
to
change
he
talks
about
trustees
and
then
officers
of
the
corporation
and
I
was
I
was
I'm
wondering
if,
instead
of
officer,
we
want
to
talk
about
employees
because
in
the
audit
committee
we
talked
about
employees
as
well,
so
it
would
be
the
first
Center.
A
So
the
first
Center
says
the
committee
shall
include
at
least
two
people
who
are
neither
trustees
nor
officers
of
the
corporation.
So
my
proposal
would
be
not
only
of
you,
I
mean,
like
I.
Don't
think
we
want
to
have
staff
in
the
in
the
ice-sub
nomination
committee.
Do
we
agree
with
that?
Yeah?
Okay.
So
then
Shran,
if
you
can
replace
officers
with
employees.
D
O
I
A
O
D
B
We
had
this
conversation
with
David
folia
who's,
our
general
counsel
and
and
and
he
did
consult
our
law
firm,
to
see
whether
we
could
keep
officer
in
the
audit
committee
waiting,
for
example,
because
John
will
be
precluded
of
being
a
chair
of
the
Audit
Committee
because
he's
an
officer
of
Isaac
being
the
secretary
as
well
as
Sean
being
a
treasurer
as
well
as
Gonzalo.
Being
the
chair.
Yeah.
A
I
mean
you
usually,
the
corner
case
is
actually
like.
We
had
with
Scott.
That
is
a
trustee.
I
mean
he
was
not
a
trustee,
but
he
was
an
officer
so
that
that
was
kind
of
what
pepper
was
referring
to
yeah,
but
anyway,
I
mean
Sean.
I.
Think
you
got
the
comment,
so
we
can
probably
edit
the
text
offline.
We
don't
have
to
do
real-time.
A
And
Sean
I
mean
the
reason
why
I'm
saying
that
probably
it
makes
sense
not
to
capture
that
in
the
same
sentence
so
probably
makes
sense
to
say
that
you
know
this
type
of
people
cannot
serve
in
the
committee
and
then
just
to
say
separately
and
we
need
to
you
know
to
people
who
are
not
trustees,
because
maybe
I
mean
including
everything
in
the
same
sentence.
Maybe
a
bit
you
know
unclear,
but
I
mean
the
point
is
like
we
know
what
to
write
so
I
mean
we
will
go
offline
and
write
it.
M
F
M
B
Only
one
qualification
or
who
can
run
for
the
board
and
there
is
a
but
it's
a
separate
issue
from
the
Charter
committees,
and
that
is
this-
should
be
at
least
a
one-year
cycle
before
the
employee
of
ex-employee
of
AIESEC
should
run
for
the
board
of
trustees.
But
it's
a
different
thing,
but
here
there's
nothing
but.
M
M
M
A
Think
about
that,
because
I
mean
we
will
basically
edit
the
whole
thing
this
evening.
So
if
you
can
come
up
with
something
that
basically
it's
yeah,
it's
not
good,
but
maybe
we
can
add
yeah
okay
and
then
there
were
no
changes
proclaiming
that
the
change
the
changes
proposed
are
ok,
because
we
are
there
reflecting
that.
So
if
we
move
to
the
Elections
Committee
charter.
A
My
only
comment
was
in
the
special
conflict
of
interest.
When
we
say
no
committee
members
may
be
elected
or
selected
bla
bla
bla.
We
had
a.
We
had
a
big
discussion
about
that,
because
that
was
a
part
that
was
super
and
clear
in
the
past
and
we
had
some
text.
That
was
having
something
like
note
that
you
know
these
guys
are
basically
you
know
and
starting
their
term
next
year.
A
So
I
think
we
should
copy
that
text,
which
is
just
Elina
centers
from
the
NomCom
charter
into
the
election
chart,
so
it
so
that
we
use
the
same
language,
basically
yeah
and
and
those
I
mean,
then
there's
no
comments,
no
changes
proposed
for
the
audit
committee
charter.
So
those
were
all
my
comments.
Any.
G
A
A
Okay
and
I
apologize
for
doing
this
in
real
time,
but
things
you
know
the
changes
were
distributed
like
one
week
ago.
We
didn't
have
time
to
to
do
this,
and-
and
we
this
now
I
mean
it-
allows
us
to
approve
it
without
having
any
vote.
So
I
think
you
know
it
is
worthless.
Okay,
any
anyone
else
has
any
comments
on
this.
A
A
Think
it
will
be
a
formality
just
to
have
the
actual
text
in
front
of
people.
So
it's
just
this
part
unless
do
it
yeah
and
I'm
thankful
for
the
good
work,
because,
as
you
know,
I
mean
I
like
to
keep
all
the
charters
current
and
since
we
have
been
kind
of
changing
things.
I
think
this
is
very
useful
to
have
more
than
a
pair
of
eyeballs
just
going
through
everything.
K
K
A
B
A
A
A
E
Guess
you
all
know
that
there
was
this
effort
over
a
year
ago,
and
it
was
not
that
successful.
We
had
a
lot
of
pushback
on
on
the
proposal.
The
staff
sent
an
update
to
organizational
members,
saying
we're
not
going
to
do
this.
We're
going
to
you
know,
fix
this
and
you'll
hear
more
consultations,
so
the
current
state
of
affairs
is
that
no
changes
have
been
made
to
organizational
member
rules
or
anything
like
that.
The
the
follow-on
effort,
then,
is
okay.
E
Well,
why
do
people
want
to
be
organizational
members
in
the
first
place,
and
you
know
what
would
that
mean
and
so
on?
There
is
currently
an
effort
underway.
We
sent
it
an
announcement.
Just
the
other
day
about
this.
That
is,
is
an
effort
with
a
consulting
firm
in
order
to
understand
what
the
offering
is
to
to
our
membership.
What
kinds
of
things
are
we
doing?
What
things
are
we
not
doing,
and
so
on?
E
There
was
some
internal
work
with
the
staff
in
order
to
understand
what
staff
think
about
this,
and
now
there
is
a
net
underway
to
understand
what
the
members
themselves
think
about
this.
It
will
be
interesting
to
learn
whether
there
are
differences
there
I
think
that
that's
part
of
the
exercise,
the
this
engagement
has
only
just
started
so
I
don't
have
any
results
to
tell
you
or
anything
like
that,
but
that's
what
we're
doing
right
now.
E
I
do
expect
that
this
is
going
to
result
in
something
but
I
don't
have
preconceptions
about
exactly
what
it's
going
to
be,
because
the
whole
idea
is
that
you
know
you
not
prejudge
that,
but
when
you're
asking
people
what
they
think
so
I
don't
have
much
more
to
say
about
it.
But
I
wanted
everybody
to
understand
that.
That's
where
we
are
in
this
in
this
process
and
I'm
obviously
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
E
R
B
D
E
Work
their
organizations,
they
would
say
too
bad
we're
going
to
do
it
anyway
and
I'm
glad
this
is
not.
One
of
them
be
well,
be
too
so
I'm
pleased
about
that.
But
the
other
thing
that
I
would
say
is
that
there
is
a
there
is
a
general
feeling
that
we
need
to
provide
a
pretty
strong
value
proposition
to
our
membership
generally
and
I.
Think
that
this
is
is
something
you
know.
Some
of
the
questions
that
we
had
earlier
in
this
session
today
led
naturally
to
that
sort
of
conclusion.
E
So
I
really
do
it
hope
that
you
know
we
will
get
a
strong
response
from
from
the
organization
members
and
that
we
get.
You
know
lots
of
good
feedback,
because
I
think
there's
quite
a
lot
of
work
to
do
here.
In
the
longer
term,
I've
already
had
some
feedback
from
somebody
that
you
know
that
this
looks
like
another
one
off
and
the
Internet
Society
does
all
these
one-offs
all
the
time
and
so
on
and
I
think
that
there
will
be
some
value
in
the
future
in
trying
to
undertake
regular
and
formal.
E
You
know
feedback
efforts
among
the
various
communities
with
whom
we
we
deal
directly
I,
think
that
is
a
valuable
thing
to
do,
but
but
it's
difficult
to
start
with
just
sort
of
ordinary
surveys,
because
I
think
there's
enough
of
a
gap
right
now
that
it's
hard
to
know
what
to
do
with
a
quantitative
survey
at
this
point.
A
O
O
It
didn't
lead
to
any
concrete.
You
know,
suggestions
that
would
be
able
to
take
forward
so,
but
I
think
the
difference
was
that
was
focusing
on
value
to
organizational
members
right
and
how,
in
order
to
expand
membership
as
opposed
to
a
more
fundamental.
What's
the
value
proposition,
because
if
you
have
the
fundamental
value
proposition,
one
would
hope
it
would
lead
to
membership,
but
it
was
not
with
the
focus
I
assumed
with
this
MC
I
interviewed
by
the
way.
O
E
The
the
the
previous
effort
was
was
led
internally,
and
there
is
a
difficulty
with
an
organization
that
is
transforming
if
it
tries
to
do
those
interviews
itself
that
any
organization
is
naturally
going
to
have
blind
spots
about
itself,
and
so
they
fail
to.
You
will
automatically
fail
to
ask
certain
kinds
of
critical
things
that
you
need,
and
so
this
is
why
we've
engaged
an
outside
firm
help
with
this.
J
Really
hope
that
this
incarnation
or
of
this
effort
leads
to
a
better
result
than
before
and
I
really
believe
not
only
hope,
but
belief
that
we
on
a
right
way.
I
was
invited
by
whatever
selection
criteria
to
be
part
of
one
of
the
first
group
in
their
views
and
I
got
the
feeling
from
the
NCI
consultant.
I
heard,
say
that
really
doing,
let's
say
a
very
fundamental
stocktaking,
including
news
from
nearly
everybody
inside
stuff,
and
it
was
really
interesting
to
hear.
What's
coming
up
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
the
report.
B
Yes,
I
believe
we
we
have
done
such
an
effort
or
undertaken
such
an
effort,
maybe
three
years
ago,
when
we
hired
a
consulting
firm
to
look
at
this
and
I
do
still
think
there
is
a
value
in
doing
it
outside
rather
than
staff,
because
of
these
blind
spots.
So
I
was
also
impressed
with
with
the
structure
of
the
interview
it
was.
The
questions
were
to
the
point
and
I
hope
this
will
result
in
some
creative
ideas
where
the
members
just
want
to
have.
B
A
Good
okay,
thanks
for
the
comments
and
please
keep
us
updated
on
this
I
mean.
Obviously
everybody
is
very
interested
and
and
then
let's
go
to
the
next
point,
which
is
a
tender
point
number
twelve
and
again
is
Andrew.
So
we're
gonna
receive
an
update
on
the
multi-stakeholder
project
that,
as
you
may
remember,
we
approved
some
funds
on
to
it.
I
think
it
was
one
year
ago
so
andrew
is
gonna.
Give
us
a
quick
update
on
what
happened
with
that
and
what's
the
current
status.
E
So
this
is,
this
project
was
funded
by
board
designated
funds
and
you're
getting
some
money
back
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
Larry
Strickling,
who
is
sort
of
the
fundamental
person
around
whom
this
was
structured,
came
to
me
and
said
well,
I
think
I'm
gonna
retire,
and
so
he
retired,
and
we
you
know
we're
sad
to
see
him
go.
There
was
a.
There
was
some
value
in
in
the
things
that
he
was
doing.
We
got
some
very
good
feedback.
We
got
some
some
quite
good
results
from
it
where
the
workshops
were
held.
E
We
had
good
responses
and
we
had.
We
had
some
positive
feeling
about
the
material.
What
we
concluded,
however,
was
that
we
were
not
real
in
a
position
to
to
take
the
work
much
further
forward,
that
a
lot
of
the
work
that
had
been
done
to
date
was
a
kind
of
dependent
on
Larry
himself,
and
it
wasn't
actually
at
the
point
where
we
felt
oh.
This
is
easily
taken
to
the
next
to
the
next
step
and
then
the
the
natural
question
was:
was
there
a
you
know
it
was
there
another
candidate
or
something
like
that
around?
E
Who
would
be
able
to
take
that
along
and
and
push
it
a
little
further?
Our
conclusion
was
no.
We
didn't
have
that
person
available.
We
didn't
have
somebody
who
obviously
could
take
this
and
who
had
managed
to
do
it
and
because
there
had
been
a
small
enough
number
of
these
things.
You
know
there
were
some
recordings
of
it
and
so
on,
but
what
we
didn't
have
was
enough
evidence
that
another
party
involved
in
it.
You
know
what
was
picking
it
up
and
taking
it
on
and
successfully
implementing
these
these
programs.
E
We
had
engaged
somebody
in
Africa,
for
instance,
to
do
some
of
these
things,
and
we
were
hopeful
that
that
was
going
to
you
know
that
that
would
be
the
basis
on
which
this
would
be
on
a
solid
foundation,
but
we
didn't
have.
We
didn't
have
good
luck
with
that.
So
that's
one
thing:
there
were
some
other
pieces
to
the
to
the
effort.
There
was
a
academic
research
portion
to
this.
There
was
a
sort
of
index
of
them
that
didn't
get
very
far,
and
so
it
wasn't
really
complete.
E
It's
not
really
in
any
kind
of
position
to
be
used.
We
have
a
fair
volume
of
materials
that
were
returned
to
us
from
Larry
and
obviously
we're
putting
them
aside
and
sorting
them
in
order
to
figure
out
which
of
these
things
can
be
reused,
but
it
turns
out
that
there
wasn't
a
great
deal
and
given
other
changes
in
the
organization.
Other
things
around.
You
know
our
our
internet
leadership
program
around
around
the
organizational
structure
itself.
We
came
to
the
conclusion
that
we
really
just
couldn't.
We
really
just
couldn't
support
this
thing.
E
So
I
concluded
that,
given
the
fact
of
the
retirement
there
wasn't,
there
wasn't
a
way
to
continue
with
this
and
that's
why
we
stopped
it
so
that
activity
has
not
actually
undertaken
any
additional
effort,
except
for
winddown
activity
since
January
and
the
remainder
of
the
funds,
I'm
I
couldn't
tell
you
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
sandy
will
be
able
to
tell
you
whenever
we
get
around
to
that,
so
those
will
come
back
as
money's.
Obviously
that
are
designated
for
one
purpose.
A
J
A
Okay,
good
perfect,
so
so
thanks
a
lot
Andrew
for
both
both
status
updates.
So
so
this
concludes
our
our
morning
session.
So
now
we're
gonna
break
for
lunch
and-
and
we
have
a
hard
stop
well
a
hard
start,
actually
a
hard
stop
for
the
lunch
at
1:00,
because
we
will
get
the
Japanese
chapter
to
2%
and
they're
gonna.
Do
that
remotely
so
we're
gonna
convene
here
in
one
hour
and
seven
minutes.
So
you
know
for
remote
participants
in
one
hour
and
seven
minutes,
we
will
resume
with
the
presentation
by
the
Japanese
chapter.
A
So
thank
you,
okay!
So
welcome
back.
We
are
here
sharp
at
1
o'clock
local
time
and
we're
gonna
have
a
report
by
our
Japan
chapter.
So
we
have
a
Tomohiro
Fujisaki
first
Fujisaki
right,
so
he's
gonna
be
driving
the
representation.
We
have
him
remotely.
He
couldn't
join
locally,
but
he's
great
actually
to
have
you
there
and
be
able
to
share
you
know
what
are
you
guys
doing
and
the
status
of
your
charter?
So
thanks
a
lot
for
joining
and
I'm
pleased
a
the
floor
is
yours.
A
R
R
You
so
much
yeah
and
thank
you
so
much
for
introducing
me
and
I'm
Tomohiro
Fujisaki,
a
child.
I
subsea
pancetta
and
first
of
all,
I'm
very
sorry
not
to
going
to
the
meeting
room
this
time
and
also
I
think
it's
a
much
for
giving
me
this
great
opportunity
to
speak
about
here
also
to
interrupt
activities.
Okay,
let
me
start
the
presentation.
R
R
Well
then,
ji-suk
introduced
the
chapter
system,
but
unfortunately,
due
to
the
low
activities
we
marked
as
a
chapter
need
to
the
Japanese,
and
we
appointed
him
in
the
2012,
and
the
number
of
members
is
now
is
300
and
training.
Try
and
picture
it
all
it's
the
certification
of
the
chapter
at
the
beginning
of
our
as
okay,
next
Chris,
and
this
has
showed
their
current
I
succeed.
The
oxides
and
chose
me
and
mr.
Konami
Shizuka
it
spicy
and
his
mainly
about
this
IET.
R
Her
hippies
and
the
program
chair
is
miss
me
technically
and
see
has
been
in
product
is
a
draw.
Our
committee
engagement
and
also
the
secretary
is
dr.
tetrahedron
D'amato,
and
he
have
been
year
teaching
in
the
university
and
he
broke
ninja
education
and
also
the
the
treasurer
it's
here
at
siendo.
He
is
the
new
New
Yorkers
from
this
year
and
he
has
been
joining
the
icon
as
a
domain
industry,
people,
okay
mix,
rupees.
R
Okay-
and
this
shows
the
current
Isaac
JP
committees
and
working
groups-
and
we
have
one
committee,
video
committee
program
committee
and
this
committee-
it
led
by
the
me
technician
and
plant
indominus
event
of
japan,
chapter
and
country.
We
have
three
temporally
communities,
one
needs
I
succeed
in
nominating
committee
and
their
internet,
Hall
of
Fame
the
mission
community,
and
also
we
have
the
one
very
active
committee,
we
internet
studies
and
promotion
committee
and
this
committee.
R
R
Okay,
next
street,
okay-
and
this
shows
the
summary
of
my
subs
a
bunch
of
activities
and
we
have
been
organizing
many
events,
Hoka
local
committee,
such
as
workshops.
This
workshops
is
mainly
related
to
the
AIESEC
mission,
such
as
privacy
for
the
IOT
issues
and
so
on,
and
also
we
have
been
conducting
the
idea
that
meeting.
As
many
of
you
know
Idid
a
meeting
on
that
meeting,
we
have
we
are
three
times
in
a
year
and
every
time
after
that,
we
think
we
hold.
We
have
been
Holland
here.
R
I
will
update,
meeting
to
introduce
ideal
activities
to
Japanese
community
and
also
we
have
been
collaborating
with
in
will
see,
Japanese
internet
created
organizations
and
support
many
bit
and
say
ipv6
summit
and
I
spam
workshop
and
so
on
and
in
the
right
people,
six
remit.
The
doctor
is
action.
Both
member,
we
asked
a
section
to
present
many
people
initials
at
system
and
also
many
he
initiated
event.
F
R
Education
hold
here
local
community
and
so
on.
Ok
next
slide,
please
thank
you
and
from
this
feels
right.
I
introduced
about
the
era.
Our
in
mo
dito
first
result
Eid
update
meeting.
As
I
said,
we
hold
this
meeting
three
times
in
the
year.
What
does
every
idea?
And
last
year
we
have
380
hub
that
meeting
and
that
you
can
see.
Is
he
a
number
but
in
peace,
on
this
side
and
about
50
people
are
being
attending
this
event?
R
3
and,
of
course,
we
will
have
the
negative
and
is
study
to
prepare
the
meeting
ho
t
and
x
IDF
next
slide.
Please
and
also
reject,
is
IDF.
We
have
been
operating,
yeah
I
I
struck,
channey
ho
there
I
need
attendees,
you
can
see
where
the
area
display
image
right
and
also
we
have
been
holding
its
yeah
do
correctly.
In
every
I
take
meeting
in
inject
local
editing,
Japanese
attendees
yeah
media
in
me
time
to
talk
with
ya
Vinicius
concept:
killer.
F
R
F
R
R
What
is
a
dialects
fee-
and
you
can
see-
is
a
japanese
version
of
this
video
who
this
URL-
ok.
Next,
please,
okay,
and
of
course
we
are
one
of
the
Isaac's
chapter
and
what
we
have
been
joining
the
eyes
of
church'
chapter
event
and
last
year
and
graves
here.
We
have
been
joining
thea
chapter
workshop,
the
chibok
Chappell
we
added
up
in
its
after
active
area
and
member
from
our
Aqsa
have
been
joining
that
via
Russia
and
also
we
joined
me.
I
said
he
went
insane
many
many
Internet.
F
R
The
ICANN
over
apricot
they've
been
meeting
and
so
on.
Okay,
next
prices
or
cities
almost
sell
us
right,
and
this
is
our
background.
Oh
this
year
and
this
year
we
plan
to
have
substantive
workshops
several
times,
but
we
have
been.
We
had
been
called
Holdings,
Isaac
JP
workshop,
but
last
year
we
cannot
call
that
meaning.
So
this
year
we
discussed
this
workshop
and
we
plan
to
have
that
once
every
two
months,
and
also
we
will
have
the
idea
update
meeting
after
David
I
like
this
idea
from
that
meeting.
F
R
Also
get
together
and
he
plays
show
nobody
PID
exact.
We
will
you
continue
to
yoga
I
stock
and,
of
course,
we
collaborate
with
a
internet
dated
organization
in
Japan
and
we're
hacked.
We
will
support
something
a
bit
in
Japan.
Ok,
next,
please-
and
this
is
a
last
try,
and
so,
if
you
have
tested
them
or
their
that
it
is,
you
gets
easier.
Our
clip
is
from
this
web
page
and
also
we
have
the
Facebook
Twitter
presence.
R
A
Q
Q
It
was
caught
by
the
prime
minister
in
the
April
of
last
year.
Then
he
ordered
the
blocking
the
site,
so
giant
carrier
entity
group
say
they
want
to
go
to
the
blocking
against
those
site.
That
is,
you
know,
installed
oversee
I
mean
the
outside
Japan,
so
injured
people
you
know
getting
at
them
saying:
that's,
not
good
idea.
They
we
should
should
not
do
so
about
10
months
discussion,
then.
Finally,
we
successfully
stopped
the
blocking
by
the
order
of
the
government.
Q
So
what
still
we
are
trying
to
stop
in
those
blocking
by
the
order
by
the
government?
If
the
blocking
would
be
you
know
initiated
by
the
ISP,
then
the
user
have
the
rights
to
you
know
blocking
a
projecting
does
offer
or
not,
so
that
the
still
we
were
working
on
those
you
know
illegal
site,
blocking
issue
that
is
not
be
able
to
solve
within
the
single
country.
Q
Japan
that
is
dated
with
the
global,
either
operation
and
also
because
of
the
discussion,
was
mainly
focusing
on
the
blocking
by
DNS,
so
that
is
a
stronger
related
with
the
infrastructure
of
the
internet
by
the
DNS.
How
the
such
a
local
regulation
you
know
affecting
to
the
global
infrastructure
operation.
So
that's
always
be
a
saying.
That
is
the
important
thing
the
we
must
keep
maintained.
Q
The
structure
of
the
internet
for
the
globe
of
wanna,
be
as
well
as
the
neutrality
of
the
internet
for
every
single
service
say
the
Imam
in
a
Japanese
manga
magazine
said
it's
just
one
of
the
example,
so
we
should
not
in
a
change
the
operation
by
the
single
reason.
So
that
is
the
other
discussion
we
did
I'm
still
we're.
You
know
fighting
with
all
we
are
discussing
that
to
to
the
good
resolution
will
be
good.
Q
You
know
away
so
that
tasty
a
whole
of
the
charge
upon
its
martyrs
take
or
the
discussion
we
are
trying
to
make
it,
and
also
during
that
discussion,
discussion
was
initiated
by
the
government.
They
try
to
make
a
small
amount
of
stakeholder
but
the
whole
of
the
stakeholders.
So
we
said
to
the
government.
That
is
very,
you
know
bad.
Q
You
know
in
an
adequate
structure
of
the
committee
to
make
making
making
a
policy,
so
that
is
we
successfully
make
us
such
a
point
to
the
government,
then
that
committee
itself
is
pared
structure
that
is
not
good
for
their
making
a
declaration
or
role
in
the
government.
So
that
kind
of
thing
is,
you
know
we
always
firefighting
to
that.
Q
The
other
thing
one
year
we
spending
was
about
the
conservation
of
the
the
network
neutrality
discussion
that
including
the
zero
rating
issue,
so
that
has
now
reach
into
these
some
consensus
right
now,
so
that
is
yet
another.
You
know
interesting
or
important.
The
discussion
activity
related,
we
see
I,
should
say
P
as
well
as
I
saw
for
that,
the
last
one.
That
is
quite
you
know
serious
thing
about
the
proper
vidya
we
should
discuss
about
that.
That
is
Chinese
issue.
Q
It's
especially
away
and
zzd
eating.
We
talk
with
the
top
government.
Officers
are
climbing
Prime
Minister.
By
that,
then
the
Japan
should
not
say
explicitly
about
Chinese
in
the
name
or
some
particular
country
name.
We
want
to
have
very
safe.
Very
you
know,
secure
internet
trouble
in
Internet
the
data
should
across
the
national
boundaries.
Free
though
you
know
how
to
making
such
a
you
know,
system
or
structure
by
the
governmental
Rosie.
You
know
critical
infrastructure.
That
is
which
we
must
carefully
discussing
from
the
viewpoint
of
global
kind
of
you,
so
that
is
yet
another.
Q
You
know
still
we
were
working
on
because
that's
very
critical
stage
now,
so
that
is
the
other
important
topic
we
are
facing
to
and
we
want
to
I
want
to.
You
know
share
and
I
want
to
hear
how
the
Japan
should
you
know,
speak
out
to
the
rest
of
the
world,
because
that's
very
critical-
and
also
we
won't
be
always
saying
from
the
technical
point
of
view,
because
the
the
government
or
you
know
congressman,
doesn't
have
good
technical
background
data
or
an
information.
Q
They
say
the
you
know
the
the
people
who
are
who
is
whispering
to
the
government.
People
doesn't
have
enough
knowledge
enough
fact,
so
we
are
going
to
trying
to
provide
in
them
real
data
there,
how
to
reacting
or
how
to
announce
into
the
to
the
answer.
So
that
is
yet
another
important
function.
Isoka
I
believe
we
are
technically
expert,
so
we
should
talk
in
total
to
from
review
from
viewpoint
of
the
experience
of
real
technical
background
as
well
as
operation
background,
so
that
that's
a
the
the
additional
thing
we
are.
A
L
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
and
it's
really
impressive
work.
I
was
interested
in
learning
how
you
are
able
to
recruit
new
youth
among
your
members.
Is
it?
Do
you
see
a
trend
of
increasing
or
decreasing
or
steady
growth
in
terms
of
bringing
in
new
people
and
because
I
can
sense?
Many
of
the
chapters
around
the
world
specifically
in
in
terms
of
technical
expertise
in
in
standardization,
ITF
I
mean
struggle
in
and
bringing
in
new
people.
R
I,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
question
and
in
that
point
we
tried
to
reach
to
the
University
student
or
the
high
school
student,
and
we
had
several
so
workshops
or
lecture
to
them
and
the
content
easier.
How
internet
works
were
the
internet
management
about
that
and
and
also
try
to
communicate
with
young
people
from
such
kind
of
yeah
workshop
and
so
on.
However,
at
this
stage
know
also
not
so
many
young
people
have
joined
our
activities,
so
we
have
to
continue
such
activities.
A
D
A
R
R
A
Which,
which
brings
us
to
the
last
topic
of
the
day
before
we
go
into
executive
session,
which
is
a.
A
I
was
gonna,
take
a
you,
be
yeah,
but
you're
right,
it's
better
to
take
first
day,
they
committee
updates
so
yeah
before
we
go
to
a
to
a
ob
before
we
were
basically
discussing
they,
they
updates
to
the
to
the
charters.
So
so
they
sent
an
email
to
the
list
with
them
with
the
proposed
amendments.
After
after
our
read
the
design
after
our
discussion,
I
I
went
through
them
and
and
I
think
they
look
good.
Any
further
comments.
People
be
good
because
we
can
approve
them
now.
A
A
A
A
A
A
Okay
I
see.
Well,
it
done
here.
Oh
she's
still
working
on
it.
Well,
it
is
done
so
here
Oh
see
when
you
are
done.
Okay,
everybody's
done
any
any
comments.
I
I
think
it
captures
our
our
conversations.
This
morning
we
had
an
offline
discussion
right
before
lunch
with
Harris
and
and
I
understood.
The
agreement
is
like
not
to
do
anything.
Is
that,
okay
with
you
Harris
you,
you
want
to
take.
M
This
got
to
do
with
the
nom.
Nom
comes
Charter
Review
him.
My
earlier
comment
was
about
putting
a
a
timeline
bar
from
time.
The
person
leaves
the
employment
of
I
sock,
whether
it's
a
full
time
or
contract
to
be
able
to
be
on
a
NomCom
in
the
first
place.
So
my
gut
feels
is
that
you
need
to
put
some
kind
of
a
time
bar.
M
Otherwise
you
know
the
person
can
leave
today
and
tomorrow
beyond
the
non-common
I'm,
not
saying
that
there
will
be
a
situation,
but
it
just
seems
to
me
that
it's
good
practice
probably
to
put
a
bar,
so
what
the
bar
should
be
and
what
is
the
right
number
I,
don't
have
a
sense
of
it,
but
a
reasonable
one
which
I
think
maybe
three
months
and
that's
how.
After
we
sure
person
can
come
back
in
yeah.
D
I
mean
I
was
thinking
about
this
too,
and
there
are
certainly
lots
of
situations
where
you
don't
want.
You
don't
want
the
revolving
door
to
revolve
too
fast,
but
given
that
the
NomCom,
if
you're
on
the
NomCom,
you
can't
nominate
yourself.
That's
already.
Basically,
basically
it's
it's
it's
a
year-long
bar
before
before
self-dealing,
and
I
think
that
the
fact
that
you
can't
nominate
yourself
is
probably
enough
of
a
gap
that
we
don't
have
to
add
an
extra
gap.
M
I'm
not
thinking
so
much
of
self-nomination.
I
I'm
thinking
about
this.
You
know
grand
plan
of
someone
doing
some
stuff
as
an
employee
as
a
contractor
within
I
saw
and
then
knowing
that
he
or
she
may
step
down
to
be
on
an
on
comm
so
that
somehow
influences
the
committee
to
you
know,
get
someone
to
be
selected
and
hopefully
that
person
gets
elected
and
that
decision
you
know
kind
of
I
know
it's
stretching
it,
but
all
I'm
asking
for
is
putting
a
gap.
That's
it.
M
A
Question
is
that,
like
the
NomCom,
actually
I
mean
that
the
board
appoints
the
NomCom.
So
if
somebody
is
running-
and
we
have
this-
which
I
agree-
is
a
corner
case,
we
can
always
say
no.
Thank
you.
So
is
that
enough,
because
I
mean
because,
like
like
I
think
in
like
99.9%
of
the
situations,
this
is
I
think.
M
I
mean
I
think
in
good
faith.
We
we
should
be
ok
with
it,
I
mean
I,
think
in
good
faith.
I
think
we
will
do
it,
probably
the
writing,
but
again
human
nature.
Being
what
it
is.
You
know
we
may,
but
the
downside
would
be
ok,
let's
look
at
the
flips
out
by
putting
it
in
there.
Does
it
solve
anything
immediately?
Does
it
prevent
anything
from
happening?
M
K
This
concern
about
like
it's
not
enforceable
in
a
court
of
law.
You
work.
If
you
there's
some
restrictions,
you
have
because
you're
an
employee
when
you're
not
screw
it,
whatever
I'm
good
like.
If
somebody
really
wanted
to
get
out
and
make
a
us,
do
you
want
to
go
to
court
over
this
I
don't
know
well.
M
K
But
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
do
that.
I
mean
I,
think
that
I
mean
there
has
been
a
chance
where
somebody
who
was
an
employee
and
then
quickly
was
running
to
be
on
the
board
right,
I
didn't
get
selected.
This
is
different.
This
is
saying
it
like
somebody
that
was
an
employee
is
gonna,
get
on
the
nominations
committee.
To
get
somebody
else
to
get
collected,
we're
starting
to
get
in
the
real
stretch.
Face
I
mean
it's
I
says
it's
possible,
but
I
think
not
probable.
E
But
the
reason
that
I
would
advise
against
this
is
the
general
principle
that
you
shouldn't
put
rules
in
place.
If
you
don't
have
a
clear
reason
why
you
want
it,
because
what
it
does
is
it
limits
your
flexibility
in
the
case
where
it
transit
that
you
want
that
behavior.
So
I
can
totally
imagine
a
case
where
you
had
a
serious
problem
with
populating
the
NomCom
one
year,
and
you
had
somebody
who
had
just
retired,
for
instance,
they
understood
the
space
and
they
understood
all
of
that.
E
And
if
you
write
this
rule,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
use
them,
and
that
seems
like
a
downside.
That
is
it's
possible.
That
downside
has
to
be
weighed
against
the
probability
of
collusion,
among
essentially
all
of
the
board,
plus
whoever
this
is.
Who
is
willing
to
quit
a
remunerated
job
in
order
to
take
a
volunteer
job
in
order
possibly
to
appoint
somebody
to
the
board
of
the
future,
which
seems
like
a
low
probability,
because
after
all,
I
mean
the
NomCom
doesn't
actually
appoint
anybody.
E
What
they
appoint
is
a
slate
of
people
who
are
maybe
then
picked
by
other
people,
and
that
feels
to
me
like,
like
I,
mean
I
I
understand
what
the
risk
is.
I
can
see
potential
collusion
there,
but
it
seems
like
a
low
probability
and
and
the
nonzero
probability
of
wanting
somebody
who,
like
somehow
fit
that
corner
case
is
also
there
and
so
now,
I'm
nervous
about
a
rule
that
you
know
you
could
actually
avoid
needing
the
rule
in
the
first
place
in
general.
E
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
cases
where,
where
are
where
the
existing
rules
do
not
protect
against
much
worse
collusion
than
this
right.
There's
no
rule,
for
instance,
against
a
a
board
member
leaving
the
board
and
then
immediately
becoming
an
executive
team
member
of
the
Internet
Society,
which
seems
like
a
way
bigger
of
conflict
of
interest
on,
and
yet
that's
one
that
we
don't
have
a
rule
against
so
on
in
in
general.
It
feels
to
me,
like
there,
it's
dangerous
to
make
rules
that
you
don't
have
a
very
clear
use
case
for
I.
A
A
Okay,
so
I
guess
this
kind
of
consensus?
Okay!
No!
But
thanks
because
I
think
is
good
to
think
of
all
the
conflict
of
interest
and
make
sure
that
we
are
covering
that
okay
good.
So
so,
then,
any
other
comment
before
we
try
to
pass
the
resolution.
Okay,
so
I
need
someone
to
move
the
resolution,
so
Olga
moves.
A
Yeah
so
Shawn
moves
olga
seconds.
It's
just
like
they
are
in
my
blind
spot
when
I'm
looking
at
you
guys
so
I,
really
like
Hans,
Peter
and
Shawn
I,
don't
see
them
well,
it's
not
that
they
don't
exist.
Okay,
so
so
with
that
we're
gonna
do
a
show
of
hands
again
and
again,
you
know
yes/no
and
abstain.
A
So,
yes,
votes!
No
vote
abstention.
Okay,
so
the
resolution
passes
unanimously.
Okay,
thank
you!
That
was
good
and
again
thanks
shown
and
this
array
and
and
the
whole
egg
of
calm.
Okay.
So
with
that
now
we're
really
going
to
into
any
other
business.
So
any
other
business
before
we
go
into
executive
session.