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From YouTube: Internet Society Board of Trustees Meeting 143 - Day 2
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Internet Society Board of Trustees Meeting 143 - Day 2
7-8 March 2019, Kobe, Japan
Agenda available here: https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/meetings/143/
A
A
Okay,
perfect,
so
we
are
broadcasting
again
and
welcome
to
the
second
day
of
our
meeting,
still
here
in
in
Kobe
in
Japan,
and
we
had
an
executive
session
yesterday
evening
and
and
tomorrow
morning
and
now
we
are
opening
with
open
session
and
we're
gonna
get
an
update
on
the
internet
societies
action
plan
for
this
year
for
2019.
So
Andrea
you
decide
how
you
want
to
write
it
sure
I.
B
Given
the
time
at
which
I
started
and
the
way
the
plan
worked
and
the
things
that
have
happened
since
and
our
our
ideas
about
planning
for
the
future,
we've
already
uncovered
some
stuff
about
the
plan
for
this
year
that
needs
adjustment
and
so
we're
making
adjustments
as
we
go,
because
it's
foolish
to
continue
with
a
plan.
That
is
wrong.
So
we
don't
do
that.
I
mean
I,
know
it's
it's
nice,
like
you
know
this,
isn't
the
tradition
of
the
IGF
fringe.
B
Next
slide,
please
come
hey.
I
ran
the
working
group
where
that
wasn't
the
plan.
So
what
we've?
We
had
an
executive
retreat
a
little
while
ago,
and
we
started
the
the
main
goal
about
that
was
to
look
at
a
longer
term
picture.
You
know
sort
of
get
a
picture
of
what
it
is
that
we're
gonna
do
over
the
longer
term
and
also
to
think
about.
What's
gonna
happen
next
year
and
the
planning
for
next
year
is:
we've
got
a
plan
for
a
plan
for
next
year.
B
We're
going
to
talk
about
that
in
a
later
session.
The
the
goal,
however,
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
set
up
so
that
next
year
we
can
actually
do
what
it
is.
We
we
plan
to
do
what
this
means
is
that
we
we've
got
things
this
year
that
need
to
be
adjusted
in
order
to
in
order
to
fit
that
next
slide.
Please.
B
B
The
the
basic
plan
that
we
had
is
is
the
same.
You
know,
we've
still
got
the
same.
The
same
areas
we're
still
working
on
on
you
know
improving
the
technical
security
through
manners
through
deploying
the
infrastructure
or
the
public
core,
and
the
the
remaining
kryptek
investment
has
already
happened,
and
the
SS
has
already
happened
on.
We
continue
to
work
on
on
connecting
we've
got
the
the
community
network
stuff.
B
When
we've
got
the
ixps,
we've
got
the
various
shaping
efforts
that
we're
making
in
order
to
try
to
to
work
on
the
various
emerging
issues
and
and
of
course
we
have
the
the
iot
campaigns
and
the
OTA
and
the
techno
policy,
and
so
on.
So
this
is
all
this
is
all
still
the
areas
where
were
focused
next,
please.
B
We
had
a
bunch
of
discussion
in
the
plan
last
year
about
how
we
work
thanks,
please
and
remember
that
many
of
these
things
have
to
do
with
the
way
that
we
work
in
our
community.
So
fundamentally,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
collaborate
with
other
people
and
and
build
our
community,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
we
have
to
speak
in
a
sort
of
consistent
and
and
strong
way.
That's
please.
B
The
key
thing
that
we
did
and-
and
this
is
primarily
Renee
Leah
and
her
group-
have
been
working
really
hard
to
try
to
deliver
progress
indicators,
indicators
that
link
up
what
what
the
activity
is
with
some
kind
of
outcome
and
and
that
effort
took
a
fair
amount
of
time.
I
think
that
it
took
longer
than
some
of
staff
believed
it
was
going
to
take,
and
what
we
saw
was
that
it
focused
people
around
precisely
what
it
was
that
they
were
doing,
and
what
this
means
is
that
we
have
some.
B
We
have
some
areas
where
it
became
obvious
to
us
that
things
didn't
have
really
clear
indicators
and
it
had
other
cases
where
it
was
really
clear
that
people
knew
exactly
what
they
were
doing
and,
and
that
has
been
the
basis
on
which
we've
been
making
a
number
of
decisions.
So
we're
obviously
going
to
you
know
present
the
reporting
tool
that
is
going
to
come
along
with
this,
and
the
reporting
tool
will
not
only
it
will
be
the
basis
by
which
we're
going
to
do
these
things
in
the
future.
B
B
So
you
remember
that
when
we
present
to
this
last
November,
there
were
a
number
of
commitments
that
are
in
the
action
plan
about
things
that
are
going
to
be
measures
that
that
you
can
see,
and
those
are
all
measures
that
we're
going
to
have
to
deliver
to
you,
but
this
July
we're
also
going
to
present
a
number
of
other
other
indicators
so
that
you've
got
some
clue
about.
You
know
how
well
are
we
doing?
Are
we
actually
getting
where
we
said
we
were
gonna
get
and
so
on?
B
B
So,
as
I
said,
we
made
some
adjustments
on
fundamentally
and
I.
Think
that
this
is
not
news.
I
felt
that
we
had.
We
had
a
little
bit
of
a
scattered
focus
that
there
were
too
many
things
that
were
going
on
and
they
were
not
all
consistently
targeted
at
a
common
set
of
goals,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
narrow
that
and
oh
over
the
course
of
this
year.
Some
things
are
going.
We're
gonna
find
that
we're
we're
narrowing
some
things.
B
B
The
Strickland
project
yeah
the
multistakeholder
project
there,
it
is
I-
knew
that
I
knew
I
would
get
the
word
out.
We've
also
got
some
other
activities,
some
subsidiary
activities
inside
some
various
projects
that
that
we
had
we
terminated.
We've
also
got
a
bunch
of
things
where
we're
making
some
some
adjustments
to
these
to
these
programs.
B
B
B
B
We
knew
that
there
were
going
to
be
some
effects
there,
so
we're
already
starting
to
see
that
we've
got
some
drawdown
from
the
emergent
emerging
opportunities
fun.
So
there
is
a
there
is
a
little
bit
of
effect
from
that
and
and
as
time
goes
on,
we
will
report
back
on
the
ways
in
which
that
stuff
is
allocated.
B
C
Andrew,
when
I
came
on
board
at
the
Internet
Society,
the
feedback
that
I
got
was
the
planning
process
for
2019
was
quite
challenging
for
staff,
and
so
we
are
trying
to
address
that
by
being
prepared
for
the
2020
planning
and
we're
starting
the
planning
early.
So
it
started
with
the
executive
team
meeting
in
February,
where
we
identified
the
strategic
priorities
for
2020
itself
and
that's
going
to
frame
the
action
plan.
C
That's
going
to
be
approved
by
the
board
in
November,
and
what
is
important
to
note
about
this
process
for
2020
is
that
it
has
two
touch
points
with
community
for
consultations.
The
first
one
is
going
to
be
in
March
and
essentially
we
are
going
to
get
feedback
from
community
and
board
and
staff
regarding
the
strategic
priorities
that
we've
identified.
There
is
a
four
week
period
for
gathering
this
input
and
then
that
input
will
be
channeled
to
staff
to
basically
inform
their
project
development
process.
C
So
staff
goes
about
developing
their
projects
and
then
they
send
it
to
the
executive
team
and
then
the
executive
team
will
essentially
identify
the
projects
that
are
green-lighted,
they're,
okay,
to
proceed
or
not,
okay,
and
then
they
go
off
to
basically
develop
the
more
detailed
budget
and
also
to
fill
in
the
blanks
for
implementation
and
then
that
again
goes
to
consultation
with
community.
That's
the
second
point,
and
this
process
has
the
budget
process
integrated
in
so
that
they
have
the
necessary
financial
information
to
develop
the
budget.
C
Well
and
then
the
executive
team
will
look
at
the
consolidated
information
as
well
as
the
consolidated
budget.
The
budget
will
go
to
the
board,
Finance
Committee
for
approval,
and
then
the
action
plan
document
will
be
created,
and
that
is
the
final
product
that
will
be
presented
to
the
board
for
approval
in
November.
C
That's
going
to
be
embedded
and
I
had
reference
from
the
board
yesterday
about
KPIs
and
earlier,
and
we
mentioned
the
impact
indicators
that
we
are
formulating,
so
that
is
also
embedded
in
the
process
itself,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
this
is
an
improvement
and
it
will
lead
to
a
higher
quality
action
plan
and
projects
for
the
Internet
Society
across
the
board
that
has
community
shared
ownership
and
also
involvement
in
the
delivery.
Thank
you.
B
There
is
the
this
fact
that
we're
we're
always
we're
sensitive
to
this
complaint
that
we've
heard
more
than
once
that
the
Internet
Society
just
like,
goes
off
and
disappears
and
then
comes
back
and
the
first
problem
with
that,
of
course,
is
that
when
people
say
the
Internet
Society
there,
they
mean
only
the
staff,
and
so
part
of
the
point
is
to
make
sure
that
we
stop
that
and
and
one
of
the
ways
that
we
do,
that
is
we
say.
Oh
it's.
Staff
in
the
community
actually
need
to
work
together
on
these
things.
B
So
that's
part
of
the
reason
that
there
are
those
consultation
points
in
there.
The
other
thing
is
that,
by
developing
this
kind
of
thing
in
the
open,
instead
of
it
being
a
like
a
sort
of
mysterious
activity
where
the
staff
are
showing
up
and
doing
things,
what
you
have
instead
is
the
whole
society
I'm
working
together
on
on
the
priorities
of
the
organization.
B
Now,
obviously,
we
need
you
know
some
agility
here,
because
they're
gonna
be
things
that
just
come
up
and
you've
got
to
be
able
to
respond
to
them
nobody's
trying
to
make
a
plan
that
is
set.
You
know
completely
and
concrete
that
can't
be
moved,
but
the
idea
is
instead
that
we
produce
we
produce
basically
a
framework
in
which
we,
you
know
we
decide.
B
Okay,
is
this
a
thing
that
we're
gonna
work
on
or
not
I
think
that
there's
an
argument
to
be
made
that
the
Internet
Society
didn't
always
have
a
good
filter
in
choosing
you
know.
Okay
is
this?
Is
this
one
of
our
topics
and
part
of
the
goal
here
is
really
to
have
a
very
clear
filter
when
something
comes
along
on
somebody
says:
gee,
that's
interesting
and
it
touches
the
internet
since
practically
everything
touches
the
internet.
Now
we
can't
do
that.
You
know
I've
heard
you
talk
about
not
being
the
everything
Society.
B
This
is
the
way
by
which
we
not
be
everything
Society.
So
that's
really
what
the
what
the
goal
here
is,
and
then
you
know
at
the
end
of
this
what
we
should
have
as
a
plan
that
everybody
feels
you
know
feels
they're
part
of
and
by
everybody
I
mean
not
everyone
in
the
world,
but
everyone
who
wants
to
be
part
of
the
Internet
Society
so
that
everybody
understands
these
are
the
things
that
we're
working
on
and
we're
working
on
them
together.
B
A
D
All
right,
Thank,
You,
Andrea
Nadia,
it's
good
good
stuff
to
start
off
with
I'm
curious
as
to
how
you
want
to
looking
at
your
chart
that
the
workflow
the
budget
process
to
80/20,
you
did
say
that
you
know
you
use
the
phrases.
You
know
they
go
back
and
go
and
figure
out
and
come
back
and
and
go
through
that
that
that
cycle
and
then
the
next
slide
uses
the
magic
words
HL
process,
I'm,
not
sure
how
you
can
have
HR
process.
D
When
you
have,
you
know
people
going
off
somewhere
and
doing
something
and
coming
back
it
has
to
be
a
very
quick
tight
iteration
process,
I'm
actually
sold
on
the
whole
idea
of
a
chart
model
and
I,
like
the
fact
that
you
do
say
that
you
want
to
engage
with
more
people
to
have
input
so
how
quickly
and
how
transparently?
Is
it
done
in
real
time
in,
in
the
sense
like
how
an
HR
process
like
a
scrum
or
something
like
that?
D
B
But
you
know
we
couldn't
run
short
sprints
and
still
do
it
in
the
community,
because,
if
you
give,
if
you
give
our
community
less
than
four
weeks,
just
respond
to
anything,
they
say
that
it's
a
useless
timeline.
So
you
need
to
give
you
know
four
weeks
for
a
lot
of
these
kinds
of
things
and-
and
you
can
see
on
here,
there
actually
are
dates.
B
You
probably
can't
see
them
on
there,
but
if
you
look
at
the
thing,
they're
actually
our
date
so,
for
instance,
the
step
10
there,
the
consultation
with
the
community
that
runs
for
roughly
four
weeks
in
July
and
August,
of
course,
we're
gonna.
Do
these
things
in
public
right?
What
what
do
you
do?
You
put
the
you
put
the
questions
out.
B
That
is
because
what
I
don't
want
is
a
you
know,
is
a
list
coming
to
the
executive
team
of
every
pet
project
everybody
ever
had.
Instead,
what
people
have
to
do
is
work
together
to
produce
a
package
that
produces
a
common
thing
across
the
staff?
So
I
don't
want.
You
know,
I,
don't
want
the
three
things
like
from
a
region
and
also
from
the
you
know
the
internet
technology
office
and
also
from
pub
policy
talking
about
cryptography.
That's
dumb.
B
So
I
extend
those
of
those
things
and
we're
gonna
use
the
the
kind
of
openness
of
the
of
the
internet
style
of
operation
in
order
to
try
to
get
some
of
that
agility
when
you're
building
these
projects,
for
instance,
instead
of
having
the
agility
of
like
two
weeks
and
you
got
a
deadline
and
now
you
gotta
do
your
post
mortem.
You
can
instead
say
all
right.
Well,
we
got
four
weeks
to
do
this,
but
we're
gonna
refine.
E
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
I
think
this
is
really
music
to
my
ears
and
glad
you're,
trying
it
out
I
think
it's
really
great
to
get
this
relative
process
and
community
involvement
at
the
early
stages,
Congrats
on
doing
that
and
I
hope
it
will
show
some
results
and
it's
worth
trying.
Thank
you.
F
F
Along
those
lines,
musical
sort
of
my
ears
and
very
operationalized
and
practical,
pragmatic
steps,
I
really
love
to
see
the
results
down.
The
line.
One
thing
I'd
like
to
emphasize
is
perhaps
is
not
being
afraid
of
cancelling
something
that
doesn't
work.
I,
think
that's
been
somewhat
of,
but
taboo
topic
to
talk.
I
mean
we
have
to
carry
the
baggage
along.
B
Well,
so
that
is
the
goal
I
mean
just
on
the
on
the
topic
of
canceling
things.
You
know
we,
we
did
in
fact
cancel
a
number
of
things
here.
We've
got,
you
know
three
whole
projects
that
are
in
the
2019
plan
that
we
have
killed,
and
this
isn't
because
we
don't
think
that
you
know
we
just
don't
think
that
they
were
adding
to
our
focus
and
to
our
ability
to
to
do
these
things.
That
doesn't
mean
that
these
are
useless
things
to
do.
It
doesn't
mean
that
nobody
should
do
them,
but
what
it
means
is.
B
B
B
This
is
not
a
valuable
thing
for
us
to
do,
given
what
we
want
to
achieve
and
that's
the
that's
really
what
the
filter
is
going
to
be,
and
the
second
thing
was,
you
know:
okay,
well,
you
know
if
the
Internet
Society
disappeared,
would
anybody
notice
well?
The
idea,
of
course,
is
that
we've
got
this.
This
project
that
says
here
are
care,
the
ones
that
we're
going
to
do-
and
here
are
the
things
the
community
has
said.
B
Oh
yeah,
we
want
you
to
do
that,
one
so
I'm,
hoping
that
the
result
of
that
is
that,
if
you
stop
doing
it,
people
would
say
hey
wait
a
minute.
We
wanted
this
thing
to
be
done
that
the
idea
here
is
in
fact
that
we,
you
know,
only
work
on
stuff
that
people
are
actually
excited
about.
If
we
propose
a
bunch
of
things
and
the
community
comes
back
and
says
now,
this
is
all
stupid,
then
you
know
we
would
be
morons
not
to
take
that
on
board.
B
A
G
H
Yours,
thank
you.
You
know
every
time
you
speak
about
the
stuff
and
you're
more
and
more
impressed.
You
can
not
make
an
omelet
without
breaking
some
eggs.
You
had
to
be
decisive
and
you're,
showing
leadership
I'm
impressed
after
saying
that
democracy
is
an
ugly
thing.
You
remember
what
Churchill
said
right
and
I
agree
with,
and
this
is
refreshing
to
hear
is
I.
Don't
think,
there's
been
a
culture,
a
nice
walk
of
listening
to
the
groundswell
and
in
Hans
and
I
were
talking
earlier
today
about
the
Advisory
Council.
H
H
We
have
to
listen
to
the
base
and
they're,
not
always
right,
right
and
and
everybody's
got
their
pet
projects
and
and
I
think
you're
doing
the
right
thing
getting
listening
to
the
base
finding
on
what
what
their
interest
is
and
marching
this
organization
towards
definitive
goals
and
I've
always
liked
the
idea
of
success
indicators
showing
out
where
we've
been,
where
we're
going
and
having
the
balls.
I
can't
say
that
I
was
told
to
watch
my
language,
okay,
having
the
what's
another
term
for
ball.
Shawn.
B
Yeah
so
Andrea,
and
then
so
very
quickly
on
this
on
this
thing
about
you,
know,
democracy
being
ugly
and
so
on,
I
I,
get
that
and
and
I
want,
I
want
to
be
clear
that
ultimately,
the
job
Falls
to
me
to
make
some
of
these
decisions
that
it's
not.
This
isn't
like
we're
not
going
to
vote
on
it.
You
know
staff
don't
get
to
vote,
they
it's
important
to
have
a
lot
of
feedback
and
I
I
like
a
lot
of
feedback.
B
But
ultimately
you
are
paying
me
to
make
a
decision
and
I
have
to
make
it
and
I
got
to
wear
it
and
I'm
perfectly
prepared
to
do
that.
That's
that's
an
important
part
of
this.
It
that
that
ultimately,
I
have
to
be
responsible.
I
have
to
be
responsible
to
you
and
through
you
to
our
wider
community,
because
I'm
assuming
that
as
the
board,
you
are
listening
to
the
various
people
around
you.
I
That
there
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
the
discipline
that
you've
gone
through
with
the
process,
I
think
and
actually
we
now
have
sort
of
a
discipline
roadmap,
I
think
is
actually
what's
needed
and
the
way
you're
executing
on
it
I
think
it's
great
and
the
fact
that
you've
done
one
of
the
most
difficult
things
which
is
when
do
you
stop
doing
something
right
and
you
actually
say:
no,
that's
really
hard.
So
again,
it's
just
an
indication
of
the
of
the
discipline
and
I'd.
Frankly,
thank
you.
B
So,
thank
you
but
I.
You
know
the
credit
doesn't
accrue
to
me
like
this
is
this
is
actually
the
entire
Internet
Society
staff
is
dug
in
for
this
in
it,
ya
know
as
well
as
surrogates
for
the
entire
staff,
but
I
I
mean
I.
Guess
I
want
to
make
that
on
the
record
that
that
I
I
recognized
this
has
been
very,
very
painful
for
a
lot
of
staff.
There
was
that
there's
a
lot
of
unscheduled
work
that
you
know
was
quite
detailed
planning
that
in
principle,
should
have
been
done.
B
You
know
as
part
of
the
development
last
year
and
it
didn't
get
done,
and
so
we've
had
to
do
a
lot
of
that
work
this
year
plus
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
come,
but
I
believe
in
the
staff.
I
believe
that
people
are
already
and
hungry
for
this,
so
I
think
that's
gonna
be
good,
so
you
know
thanks
12
of
them
and
thanks
to
Rinella
and
her
team,
who
did
an
A+
job
on
this.
A
Good
yeah,
one
thing
we
haven't,
we
haven't
talked
about
in
the
questions,
but
but
is
something
that
we've
been
doing
like
for
the
last
years
and
trying
to
get
closer
and
closer
is
the
the
our
engagement
to
do
impact
as
opposed
to
just
having
actions
for
for
the
sake
of
actions,
so
I
think
that's
really
good.
Actually,
I
mean
how
we
measure
that
and
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
yeah
what
we
want
to
accomplish,
as
opposed
to
just
you
know.
A
Let's
do
that
so
yeah
I
mean
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
these
works
and
how
basically
we
are.
We
usually
approve
the
action
plan
in
November.
So
we
are,
you
know,
I
mean
we
have
plenty
of
time
actually
to
try
this
and
try
to
get
some
to
to
some
point
that
that
makes
sense
and
we
can
basically,
then
you
know
commit
to
that
for
the
next
year.
Any
further
questions
on
on
this
side
of
the
room.
G
F
Well,
it
you
may
a
quick,
quick
reference
to
the
the
community
since
the
community
and
when
they
say
something
I
mean,
of
course,
that's
a
good
thing,
but
it
should
not
be
exclusively
sources.
We
are
a
mission
based
organization
and
I
mean,
and
some
members
might
want
to
take
us
in
one
direction,
but
it's
a
proposal
without
perhaps
understanding
of
the
full
context.
Their
context
is
okay,
but
we
are
dealing
with
a
global
picture
here.
So
yeah
keep
that
in
mind.
A
Thank
You,
Willie,
okay,
excellent.
So
now
we're
gonna
move
through
2.11
in
the
agenda,
which
is
in
closed
session,
and
then
we
will
have
right
away
the
well
right
after
that
they
lunch
the
lunch
break,
so
we're
gonna
be
resuming
in
in
open
session
at
1
o'clock
local
time,
yes,
which
is
in
one
and
a
half,
that's
a
hard
start,
because
we
have
a
guest
presenter
for
that.
A
Yes,
we
will
be
one
you're
sharp,
so
so
we
are
actually
having
you
know
the
first
time
that
we
meet
actually
Eduardo
and
and
I
think
we
are
very
fortunate
that
he
was
around
and
we
can
meet.
You
know
face
to
face.
Sometimes
you
know
we
we
get
these
reports
by
by
videoconference,
but
next
time,
I
I
think
it's
great
that
you
know
we
can
basically
know
meet
in
person
and
I
mean-
and
it's
actually
indeed
the
first
time
we
meet
face
to
face
as
well
that
that
was
great.
A
J
Come
in
please,
okay,
so
really
where
you
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
brief
presentation
and
I
just
want
to
introduce
the
team
members
for
some
of
you
that
don't
know
us
I
invited
to
this
meeting
all
the
sealing
committees,
members
that
are
here
in
Kobe
and
happens
that
Oliver
is
here.
There
is
another
person
called
Peter
Koch
from
the
CC
NSO,
which
is
you
know,
I
invited
you
know
them,
but
there
might
be
busy
in
any
case.
I.
J
J
There,
Britta
selected
from
different
chapters
in
different
regions
and
three
known
geographical
members,
are
selected
by
the
number
of
votes
that
you
get
and
basically
I'm
in
this
time,
I'm
a
non-geographical
member
before
I
was
elected
from
my
from
my
region,
but
in
any
case
just
I
think
you
have
seen
this
before.
So
I
don't
have
to
go
over
it
so,
but
I
wanted
you
to
know.
Who
am
I
because
I'm
think
in
the
future.
We
will
be
interacting.
Often
okay.
J
Well
next,
like
this,
so
the
coroner
buys
that
it's
it's
there
and
I
watched
the
video.
Where
was
this
is
cause.
They
were
sleep
in
the
in
the
post.
It's
it.
The
bus
has
to
do
with
changes
to
the
Charter
to
the
Advisory
Council.
There
was
one
item
specifically:
there
has
to
the
Protea
tension
of
the
board,
I
believe
it
what
he
didn't
pass.
A
A
K
A
J
Okay,
well
in
any
any,
how
with
we
took
that
back,
that
comment
will
say
with
the
comments
or
no
formal
rejection,
so
we
took
that
coming
back
and
we
discuss
it
and
you
know
we
think
there
are
other
ways
of
doing
this
I.
You
know
personally
and-
and
we
all
agree
that
that
you
know
having
a
default-
it's
not
really
a
way
of
motivating
people
to
participate
period.
J
So
just
for
the
record,
this
was
received
by
the
board
on
October
and
there
was
a
presentation
made
on
this
by
C
I
believe
in
November,
so
the
bride
about
that
time
we
have
the
elections,
and
then
we
have
a
new
advisory
by
board
together.
So
I,
don't
know
the
next
slide
is
well.
So
this
is
not
correct.
J
It's
not
that
I'm
not
going
to
prove
we
got
commented,
and
this
is
the
part
of
the
charter
that
was
got
some
comments
from
the
board,
so
Andy,
Nash
and
again,
the
rationale
behind
this
is
to
have
more
people
engage
which
really.
This
is
not
going
to
do
it
period,
so
the
next
slide
is
moving
forward.
J
We
want
to
add
two
more
items
to
this
motivational
list
to
have
make
sure
chapters
designate
a
board,
I
mean
a
delegate
to
the
Viceroy
Committee
and
that
they
participate
and
if
they
want
to
move
through
this
level
of
criteria
which
I
think
it's
something
that
they
can
meet
very
easily,
because
you
know
you
participate
and
you
just
design
a
designate,
a
delegate.
It
will
work
better
and
also
there
was
a
question
about
in
about
active
participation
and
I.
Think
I
haven't
discussed
this
most
cross
with
the
with
the
team
members,
but
I.
J
Think
part
of
the
problem
with
the
participation
of
the
delegates
in
the
meetings
is
the
fact
that
these
meanings
happened
only
one
or
twice
a
year.
Maybe
we
need
to
increase
the
frequency,
so
people
get
you
know
to
work
it
there,
because
having
a
couple
of
these
meetings
a
year,
will
it
will
be
a
way
of
making
people
aware
of
these
meetings
or
being
active?
So
those
are
that's
the
direction
we're
going
to
take.
J
A
So
so
basically
I
mean
the
I
mean
the
approach
of
like
you
know,
measuring
this
as
part
of
other.
You
know
measurement
that
we
are
already
doing.
I
think
that
sounds
really
good
because,
as
you
said,
then,
when
we
are
assessing
the
health
of
a
chapter,
this
is
something
that
we
will
look
at.
So
you
have
the
incentives
to
do
that.
Just
to
clarify
the
our
comment
about
the
default.
Being
the
president
I
mean
that
wasn't
really
the
problem.
A
The
problem
was
having
someone
appointed
without
that
person,
even
acknowledging
like
yes,
I
can
I
can
do
it.
So
if
it
had
been
like
a
heartbeat
like
sending
an
email,
a
do
you
want
to
be
the
representative
and-
and
this
person
would
say
yes,
that's
completely
okay,
but
you
know
the
way
was
written
was
kind
of
like
we
cannot
get
even
an
email
back
from
this
person,
so
we
will
just
make
him
the
official
representative,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
what
caused
some
somehow
you
know
heartburn.
A
But
so
if
you
want
to
to
go
down
the
road-
and
maybe
you
know
you
want
to
add
today
to
them
whatever
you
want
to
added
that
by
default,
you
will
reach
out
to
the
president
of
a
chapter.
That's
completely
okay,
but
but
there
needs
to
be
an
action
by
the
person
that
is
appointed.
That
says
at
least
a
I
accept
this,
so
that
was
kind
of
the
okay.
K
A
A
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
if
you
do,
you
know
both
I
mean
you
have
to
make
sure
I
think
that
was
always
point
that
sometimes
they
didn't
even
know
that
this
existed.
So
you
need
to
make
anything
to
reach
out
and
say
miss
chapter.
This
is
the
Advisory
Council
and
this
is
how
you
could
participate
and
then,
if
they
don't
want
to
do
it,
as
you
said,
I
mean
right.
You
know
you
need
an
incentives
and
everything,
but
at
least
to
make
sure
that
you
know
they
are
aware
of
that.
E
J
Are
not
they
don't
receive
an
email
right,
so
this
is
what
we're
thinking
we
go
through
this
evaluation
criteria
that
it
happens
twice
it's
going
to
happen
twice
this
year.
The
original
contact
will
talk
to
the
chapter,
because
I
believe
the
original
I
don't
remember
how
they
call
it
they're
deep.
You.
J
J
A
This
two
things
right,
I
mean
like
they
assess
manie's,
is
done
by
staff
or
all
the
time
right
I
mean
there's
no
change
there.
The
only
thing
is
like
you
will
have
another.
You
know,
measurement
that
you
do,
which
is
like
hey.
Have
you
appointed
someone
to
the
to
the
IC?
So
it's
just
another
question
in
the
assessment
they
already
perform,
so
just
just
to
be
creased
up
to
here.
Right
yeah.
J
A
J
But
the
idea
is
that
it
will
be
there
and
when
it
is
discussion
on
evaluation
happens
and
it
will
be,
do
you
have
you
designated?
Have
you
designated
Advisory,
Committee,
delegate,
yeah,
and
if
you
don't
know
what
that
isn't?
That's
the
point:
that's
where
you
explain
it
and
then,
if
you
have
or
if
you
had,
is
this
person
participating,
they
will
know
that
you
know
you
have
participated
only
one
sign
in
for
meetings
or
something
like
that.
What's
going
on,
but
is
again
motivational
one
there's
also
criterias.
J
A
K
J
A
Is
something
that
I
was
stressing
because
I
mean
in
the
past
sometimes
I
mean
not
with
you
guys
only,
but
with
more
people.
It's
been
kind
of
very
transactional,
like
very
official
and
and
I
think
sometimes
having
moral
and
an
informal
you
know
way
of
talking
sometimes
is
useful,
because
sometimes
you
see
something
that
needs
to
be
fixed
or
or
you
be
like
hey.
A
Have
you
thought
about
that
I've
been
sometimes
participating
in
the
in
the
mainly
lists
in
in
that
I've
been
told
to
join
just
through
you
know
also
be
open
to
the
community
so
that
it's
not
like
Eduardo
and
I.
You
know
talking
in
a
dark
room
yeah
that
nobody
has
access
to
so
I
think
we
can
do
anything
that
works
for
you,
I
think.
J
J
That
may
be
all
you
may
want
to
add
something
to
that,
and
in
the
past
two
months
we
have
looked
at
the
topics
that
are
being
discussed
in
the
advisory
chart
chapter
and
we
have
look
at
them
looking
from
our
permit,
which
is
providing
that
by
somehow-
and
we
found
there
some
each
some
discussion
topics
there
that
didn't
there
were
issues
with
chapters
but
really
didn't
it's,
not
the
the
focus
of
at
the
Advisory
Council.
So
we
have
been
able
to
clean
them
up
and
concise
some
of
them.
J
So
we
can
work,
work
more
efficiently
and
more
clear
as
to
work
which
direction
we
need.
We
need
to
take
because
you
know
really
which
bring
to
the
you
know
some
kind
of
bytes
to
the
board
that
really
encompass
most
of
the
chapters,
not
one
chapter
and
and
that's
very
important,
so
we're
doing
that
and
that.
A
Was
I
mean
just
to
build
on
that,
and
that
was
clearly
when
we,
when
we
created
the
yes,
the
I
mean
we
asked
the
community
not
as
the
board.
They
advise
read
chapters
both
a
and
they
all
match
so
for
organizations,
and
you
guys
that
was
exactly
the
thing
because
for
us
it
was
very
difficult
to
know
if
something
was
kind
of
you
know
affecting
a
chapter
or
or
it
was
a.
This
affects
not
all
the
chapters.
A
So
in
that
sense,
having
that
type
of
you
know,
assessment
made
by
you
guys,
it's
actually
helping
us
prioritize
our
time,
because
then
we
can
fix
the
really
important
issues,
so
that
was
kind
of
you
know
in
the
past.
We
have
been
talking
about
about
this
in
terms
of
metadata
like
when
we
get
that
request
something
about
the
request
like
a
this
is
a
request
of
our
random
guy
that
thinks
this
is
like
the
way
things
go,
or
this
is
a
request
that
is
basically
backed
by
the
whole
community.
L
Someone
to
actually
than
in
other
parts
of
the
community
so,
for
example,
one
in
the
internet
draft-
is
progressing
through
this
status
when
he
gets
the
IHG
the
person
who's.
The
shepherd
for
that
document
writes
up
something.
This
is
basically
just
that
a
couple
of
people
liked
it.
You
know
a
couple
really
active
people,
but
one
person
really
hated
it
just
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
a
flavour
of
like
hey.
This
is
unanimous.
Like
everybody
loved,
this
is
that's
like
knock
it
out
of
the
park.
It
kind
of
helps
us
figure
out.
L
You
know
how
to
prioritize,
essentially
whether
or
not
we
it's.
It's
really
super
important,
because
you
guys
have
do
you
have
a
role
of
providing
information
up.
You
don't
want
to
filter.
It.
I
think
I
use
that
word
one
time
before
and
Glenn
corrected
me,
but
it
is
good
for
us
to
know
the
flavor
of
like
how
much
how
much
weight
to
give
an
essentially
well.
J
One
thing
that
I'm
planning
to
keep
an
approach
to
this
is
that
you
know
if
you
bring
a
issue
to
the
Advisory
Committee
I
will
say
you
know
what
is
the
expect
that
I
buys?
You
know,
give
me
a
flavor
for
what
it
is
and
I
will
put
in
the
in
the
framework
of
what
we're
doing
so
and
about
the
two-way
collaboration.
You
know
we
are
here
to
send
a
bias
to
the
board
for
again.
J
A
I'm
in
the
executive
session
this
morning
that
that
I
mean
the
reason
why
we
are
so
excited
with
kind
of
this
kind
of
you
know
new
infusion
of
energy
that
that
you
know
you
are
trying
to
to
do
there
is
that
I
mean
it's
really
important
for
us,
sometimes
to
consult
the
community
to
understand
you
know,
issues
and
having
a
function
and
functioning.
You
know,
Advisory
Council,
for
both
communities
or
exam
chapters
would
be
so
useful
for
us.
So
absolutely
I
mean
this
is
the
model
that
that
we
would
like
to
follow.
You
know
well.
A
J
M
H
J
Clean
are
you?
Are
you
talking
about
the
steering
committee?
Well,
one
of
the
things
I'm
I'm
planning
to
do
I
mean
starting
doing,
is
I'm
going
to
assign
topics
of
discussions
which
member.
So
you
have
to
be
there
to
discuss
that
topic
because
before
it
was
all
the
chair
or
the
vice-chair
and
everybody
else
was
like
listening
listening
mode,
so
there
was
no
really
a
a
motivation
to
go
there,
and
and
and
do
it
and
now
I
say,
but
you
do.
J
This
is
calculate
you
bring
this
coach
and
if
you
bring
an
issue,
hey
it's
your
topic
of
discussion,
so
it's
reuse
responsibility
to
move
it
forward
or
what
have
you
because
I?
That's
that
way
being
everybody
all
of
us
are
responsible
and
and
if
you
get
it,
something
that
get
assigned
and
be
sure
you
will
try
to
be
there
before.
If
you
were
during
the
observer
mode,
who
cares
I
mean
that's
my
own
perception,
so
any
it's
work.
You
know
we
got
a
full
quorum
in
the
last
meeting.
M
Thanks
Gonzalo,
if
I
could
just
add
one
thing:
I
mean
dock
quorum
for
the
steering
committee
is
seven
out
of
nine
and,
as
you
know,
most
of
the
people
in
the
steering
committee
are
very
busy,
so
they're,
travelling
and
so
on,
so
that
we've
had
that
problem
of
at
least
two
people
that
are
traveling
and
then
we're
like.
Okay,
we're
one
person
short
and
so
we've
had
to
each
time
say:
okay,
we'll
move
it
to
the
mailing
list,
etc,
etc.
So
we
are
thinking
of
dropping
it
by
one
person.
M
A
H
J
A
M
Okay,
just
that
all
taken
yeah
Olivia
thanks
goes
out.
I
was
gonna
answer
with
a
different
answer
and
say:
well
you
got
about
a
hundred
members,
so
a
hundred
people
twice
a
year.
It's
actually
a
nice
location,
Hawaii
Vegas,
the
sort
of
place,
maybe
not
know
I,
was
going
to
just
add
regarding
the
the
chapter
advisory
comes
well,
the
chapters
that
do
not
have
someone
delegated
to
the
the
Advisory
Council
we're
talking
about
very
small
number
of
chapters,
I
think.
K
M
Something
like
10
15
chapters
out
of
the
100-plus
chapters
that
are
around
the
world,
so
it's
really
and
when
you
look
at
the
lists,
some
of
them
are
dead,
ducks
I,
mean
sorry
to
say,
but
I've
never
seen
any
kind
of
life
in
some
of
these
chapters.
I
think
even
some
of
them
might
be
about
to
go
into
rejuvenation
as
well.
So
that's
a
problem
I
think
that
will
solve
itself
as
well
completely.
O
Thank
you
for
coming
yeah.
What's
the
role
the
name
of
role
of
Nancy
wood,
she
stood
in
charge
of
the
communications
with
chapters
I,
don't
recall,
she
has
done
a
very,
very
good
job
and
in
setting
up
for
the
chapters
in
Latin,
America
I,
don't
know
if
you're
in
that
list
or
in
the
other
one
I
never
know
how
you're
north.
O
Spanish
so
for
me
or
Latino,
and
then
you're
in
the
north,
she
has
done
a
lot
sample.
It's
so
simple,
but
it's
so
dynamic.
So
we
all
the
information
goes
there.
The
cost,
every
important
information
about
what
to
attend.
Webinars
conferences,
it's
very,
very,
very
useful.
So
maybe
you
can
think
about
a
tool
like
that
and
it
was
spontaneous
from
from
her
and
it
has
been
replicated
in
novel
regions.
O
J
Nancy
is
a
has
done
a
great
job
in
Latin
America,
one
of
the
things
other
than
the
what's
up
to,
which
is
very
good,
sometimes
get
very
busy.
You
know
with
this
this
this.
Thank
you
I,
but
in
any
case
it's
a
good
channel
to
have,
and
also
one
thing
that
she
does
I
don't
know
how
they
do
it
in
different
is
that
she
gets
to
talk
to
chapter
one
to
one.
J
F
One
thing
I
was
thinking
in
terms
of
motivation
building
on
their
competences.
Their
profiles,
for
example,
whether
it
be
this
chapter,
is
very
good
at
a
particular
area
such
as
he
or
technology
or
community
networks,
depending
on
and
then
point
that
through
you
probably
have
access
to
the
database,
that
Isaac
has
and
you
can
tell
which
ones
are
interesting,
so
you
can
actually
say
we'd
like
to
invite
you
and
to
give
a
speech
or
something
or
present
an
idea
so
that
you
let
them
know
that
they
are
contributed.
F
Not
simply
calling
in
to
just
join
I
mean
that's
something
that
came
to
mind
because
we
get
that
all
locally
as
well.
Will
you
know
we
take
the
picture,
then
micro
pictures
that
within
a
community
you
actually
have
the
same
problem.
They
don't
come,
they
don't
appear.
Unless
these
do
you
contribute
it?
You
have
this
idea,
so
maybe
that's
one
way
in
which
you
can
encourage
right.
F
J
M
Please
thanks
Gonzalo,
it's
interesting.
Actually,
the
the
competencies
of
chapters
is
really
important.
As
you
said,
some
are
really
focused
on
something,
or
they
have
people
within
their
ranks
within
the
chapter
that
are
very
strong
on
specific
issues,
I'm
not
sure
to
what
length
we
actually
have
access
to
such
information
due
to
data
data
protection
issues,
so
I'm
not
quite
sure
whether,
for
example,
having
the
list
of
members
of
a
sig.
If
you
know
this
the
IOT
sake,
for
example,
then
you'd
find
out
well
which
chapters
are
really
involved
in
the
IOT
sick.
M
That
would
be
super
helpful
because
then
we'd
be
able
to
actually
address
those
you
know
more
specifically
or
when
there
is
something
or
any
comments
required
on
specific
topics.
Then
we'd
know
who
to
really
focus
on
rather
than
sending
a
general
notice
that
ends
up
in
the
spam
box
of
a
lot
of
people.
So.
A
Excellent
yeah
see
no
more
questions,
but
I
mean
thanks
a
lot
and,
as
I
said,
I
mean
you
know
the
proposals
you
made,
they
sound
really
good
and
anything
else.
You
know
we
can
have
periodic
calls
like
every
two
months,
every
three
months
every
week
when
needed
so
I
mean
you
know
how
to
reach
me
and
we'll
take
it
from
there.
But
yeah
I
mean
don't
don't
hesitate
to
just
reach
out
when
we
need
it.
I
want.
A
A
G
G
A
Okay,
excellent,
so
yeah,
but
thanks
for
double-checking
because
yeah
this
is
the
type
of
thing
we
want
to
make
sure
we
do
okay,
so
so,
just
before
we
close
and
for
the
remote
participants
that
they
may
want
to
join
the
Foundation
board
meeting,
we
will
start
in
half
an
hour.
Is
that
correct,
Kevin
in
25
minutes?