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B
Okay,
thank
you
kevin,
so
welcome
everyone.
This
is
the
the
155th
meeting
of
the
iso
board
of
trustees,
and
today
we
have
a
short
agenda.
We
will
be
meeting
basically
eduardo
from
the
chat
chapter
advisory
council
and
then
we
will
be
meeting
the
church
of
the
iab
and
ietf
so
with
the
given
agenda,
any
conflicts
of
interest.
B
Okay,
same
nan.
Let
me
note
that
heather
sent
her
regrets,
but
all
the
rest
of
the
trustees
are
are
here,
so
we
have
further
adieu
eduardo.
The
floor
is
yours.
C
Thank
you.
If
I
can,
I
my
presentation
is
very
short
and
to
the
point,
so
I
send
it
to
kevin.
Kevin
will
be.
C
Well,
thank
you
today
to
all
of
you
for
having
me
again.
I
have
a
very
short
presentation.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
C
Basically,
I'm
going
to
go
over
the
team
members
again
and
some
of
the
team
members
are
going
to
stay
they're
going
to
be
in
the
2021
chapter
advisory
council
again
a
little
bit
about
the
nomenclature.
Just
to
you
know,
when
I
talk,
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about,
I'm
going
to
show
you
some
of
the
numbers
that
I
have
put
together
for
the
2020,
what
you
know
looking
ahead
for
2021
and-
and
that
will
end
my
presentation
next
one
please!
C
Well,
you
have
seen
this
song.
You
have
seen
this
before
there
are.
Five
of
us
have
been
elected
to
the
next
chapter
advisory
council
for
2021.
I
you
know
I
I'm
not
doing
this
next
year.
I
want
people
new
people,
new
blood
to
come
in
and-
and
I
believe
the
elections
have
been
finished.
C
This
committee
will
meet
with
the
new
team
in
the
january
during
the
january
time
frame.
Then
we
will
pass
all
the
information
and
you
know
whatever
we
have
to
pass
to
the
next
team,
because
there
we
have
been
working
on
things
that
we
didn't
finish
this
year.
C
C
Only
chapter
comes
in
delegates,
not
chapter
delegates,
but
council
delegates
from
the
chapters
and
when
we
put
an
sc
at
the
end
it
will
be
chapter
advisory
sitting
committee,
which
is
the
committee
that
that
I'm
sharing
now-
and
we
are
nine
elected
delegates
in
this
committee-
and,
like
I
mentioned
the
we
settle
on
the
standard
of
when
we
send
advice
to
you,
we're
going
to
put
the
word
advice
the
year
months
and
day
that
that
we
started
working
on
the
advice.
C
If
there
is
one
one
more
advice,
if
we're
working
on
one
more
than
one
advice
that
day,
then
we
will
see
number
one
number,
two
number
three
and
so
forth,
then
the
title-
hopefully
I
buy
so
going
forward.
That's
the
way
you're
going
to
we're
going
to
you're
going
to
start
receiving
that
advice
whenever
there
is
advice
to
give
to
the
board.
So
next
one
please
so
these
are
20
20
numbers
I
went
around
and
I
look.
I
took
some
notes
and
did
some
average.
C
We
met
this
year
once
a
month,
so
we
met
for
11
times
during
this
year
we
didn't
meet
during
december.
In
december
we're
meeting,
we
have
been
doing
a
special
meeting
to
to
vote
on
amendments
to
the
check
to
the
chapter
advisory
charter,
which
I
go
over.
C
You
know
very
briefly
in
in
my
next
slide,
but
you
know
if
you
look
at
the
right
of
the
11
months
meeting
the
6.72
number
that
you
see
there
is
the
average
attendance
to
those
meetings
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
problem
with
is
we
need
a
quorum
of
you
know.
We
are
nine
and
the
charter
set
us
a
quorum
for
seven
out
of
nine,
so
it's
kind
of
a
super
majority.
Every
time
you
meet
to
do
regular
work.
C
So
one
of
the
amendments
that
we
have
put
in
the
charter
is
to
bring
this
down
to
five,
which
would
be
like
50
plus
one,
and
even
though
we
got
you
know,
this
is
just
an
average.
It's
just.
C
I
just
wanted
to
show
that
we
never
got
to
the
seven
most
of
the
time
we
never
get
to
the
summon
slash
nine
quorum
which
make
our
deliberations
more
inefficient,
because
then
we
have
to
do
things
offline
instead
of
doing
the
old
discussions
and
decisions
and
during
the
meeting,
so
you
know
we
just
want
to
make
things
easier
for
the
next
team
to
come
directly
is
coming
in.
Unfortunately,
with
the
pandemic,
we
have
only
one
full
shack
meeting
after
the
pandemic
started.
C
There
was
not
that
much
work
that
you
know
there
was
no
reason
for
meeting
with
them
other
than
because
we
didn't
have
any
any
thing
to
provide,
in
addition
to
the
advice
that
we
just
provided
during
this
year
so
and
the
total
advice
that
we
have
sent
that
we
did
send
this
year
was
about
it
was
it
wasn't
about
what
exactly
six
prices
and
it
has
to
do
all
with
all
with
the
pir
sale.
C
D
On
that
previous
slide,
I'm
kind
of
surprised,
presumably
all
of
the
people
on
the
on
on
the
steering
committee.
You
know-
ran
for
the
steering
committee
and
volunteered
to
be
on
it.
So
why
do
you
think
that
if
you
know
like,
if
people
presumably
want
to
be
on
the
steering
committee,
why
is
it
so
difficult
to
get
them
to
show
up
for
meetings
and
a
related
question?
D
Is
I
see
the
32
chapters
showed
up
for
the
full
meeting,
which
means
that
80
chapters
did
not
and
I'm
wondering
what
engagement
have
you
had
with
those
other
80
chapters?
I'm
getting
the
impression
that
there's
a
very
small
group
of
people
involved
and
it's
hard
it's
hard
to
accept
the
advice
as
being
from
all
of
the
chapters,
if
we're
repeatedly
hearing
that,
actually
it's
a
small,
it's
a
very
small
group
of
people
and
you're
having
you're
having
trouble
even
getting
engagement
from
the
ones
who
said
they
wanted
to
be
engaged.
C
Well,
fully
for
the
shaq
meeting
the
full
track
meeting
the
the
quorum
is
only
only
19.
D
D
About
are
you
talking
about
the
our
seating
committee
meetings?
Well,
actually,
I'm
asking
two
questions.
One
is
the
steering
committee.
Presumably,
is
all
people
who
are
interested,
so
why
is
it
so
difficult
to
arrange
meetings
when
they
can
actually
be
there?
I
mean
like
for
our
board
meeting.
We
generally
get
at
least
11
of
the
12
members
and,
and
the
related
question
is
what
engagement
have
you
had
with
the
80
chapters
who
didn't
come
to
the
meeting
and
presumably
who
aren't
at
the
on
the
steering
committee
either.
B
B
Yeah
so
kevin,
maybe
you
can
go
into
the
video
for
for
a
second
while
we
discuss
this
so
so
john
had
two
questions.
The
first
one
was
that
you
said
that
basically
the
average
attendance
was
you
know
below
seven
members
in
the
steering
committee.
So
he's
wondering
why
steering
committee
members
which
are
supposed
to
be
who
are
supposed
to
be
committed
to
to
be
there,
why
it's
so
difficult
to
have
them
to
show
up
for
a
meeting.
C
C
You
know
that
alone
brought
the
average
down,
because
usually
you
can
get
seven
out
of
nine,
but
you
know
you
just
need
missing
three
people,
two
one,
two,
three
three
simple
three
people
and
then
you
cannot,
you
don't
have
quorum,
and
I
don't
know
why,
when
this
was
made
up,
you
know
for
regular
meetings.
We
have
to
have
a
super
majority.
C
C
That
was
the
answer.
I'm
sorry,
the
answer
is,
I
don't
know
people,
you
know
we
do
the
regular
reminders.
You
know
people
know
way
ahead
of
time
when
the
meetings
are
and
people
on
the
show.
B
C
Well,
usually,
those
meetings-
you
don't
see
that
many
numbers,
usually
you
see,
20
25
chapters
on
in
those
meetings
and-
and
that
has
been
like
that
for
many
years
that
I
have
seen
the
32
is
because
we
push
people
to
to
come
into
the
meeting
because
we're
we
were
dealing
with
the
amendments
to
the
charter.
C
Okay,
so
we
push
people
to
come
in
because
we
have
to
have
members
for
proxies
to
see
if
we
can
get
the
two
thirds
and
we
I
will
explain
that.
I
can
explain
that
now.
I
can
explain
that
later.
Yeah.
B
C
B
John's
question
is
going
actually.
The
actual
question
is
that,
whether
with
that
level
of
participation
you,
you
can
think
that
your
advice
and
when
you
talk
on
behalf
of
the
chapters,
if
you
are
really
talking
on
behalf
of
the
chapters
or
only
on
behalf
of
a
small
part
of
the
community,
that
was
where
john
was
trying
to
get
at.
F
Well
and.
B
C
Well,
when
I,
when
the
assyrian
committee
talks,
it
talks
because
of
the
steering
committee,
but
now
if
there
is
an
advice
that
have
been
sent
formally,
then
we
talk
from
the
chapters
itself.
Okay,
now,
like
I
mentioned
before,
you
know
you
can
have
19.
You
know
we
can
do
a
full
check
meeting
you
get
19
people
there's
a
quorum
and
if
there
is
consensus
on
whatever
we
are
proving
there,
that
those
19s
are
the
ones
that
approve
the
advice.
B
No,
but
but
we
are
not
talking
formally,
I
guess
john
is
talking
like
you
know.
If
I
mean
your
opinion
of
that
really,
if,
if
you
see
that
you
know
in
the
chapter
advisory
council,
basically
only
a
few
chapters
and
a
few
individuals
are
engaging
and-
and
if
so
we
probably
need
to
address
that
somehow
or
if
you
think
that's
healthy
enough
and
the.
C
Situation
is
good.
There
are
about
10
chapters
that
they
don't
have
even
delegates
to
the
chapter:
advisory
council,
10
or
15.
I
don't
know
and
why.
Why
is
that?
I
mean
it's
a
matter
of
signing
somebody
to
the
chapter
advisory
council.
Their
chapters
are
active,
but
they
don't
have
a
chapter
delegates.
Maybe.
C
Yeah
but
but
I
found
out
that
the
one
and
I
have
found
this
the
other
day
and
I'm
pretty
sure
there
are
chapters
like
that
and
is
that,
even
though,
if
you
have
a
chapter
delegate,
you
know
to
the
council,
but
if
you
forget
to
enter
that
information
in
the
member
nova
system
system,
you
know
we
have
a
list
of
the
chapter
officers.
If
you
have,
if
the
chapter
delegates
it's
not
allocate
is
if
it's
not
identified
there,
then
what
it
gets
pushed
is
with
pull
from
the
system
is
what
is
there?
C
So
you
might?
It
happens
to
me
with
the
ecuador
chapter,
which
I
said
you
know
you
have
a
delegate.
Is
it
yes?
I
am
a
delegate,
I
said.
Well,
you
are
not
in
the
list.
I
said
how
come
he
said.
Well,
because
you
are
not
in
the
member
noah,
you
have
to
go
to
the
member
nova
and
activate.
You
know
put
yourself
as
the
chapter
delegate
and
he
did
and
and
he
walks
he
works
fine.
C
So
there
might
be
some
of
that
there,
but
that's
an
issue
that
I
think
regional,
the
renault
directors
or
have
you
should
address
because
it's
part
of
the
performance
evaluations
that
they
do.
You
know.
Where
is
the
chapter?
It's
one
of
them,
there's
a
question
that
you
know
have
you
have
identify
a
delegate,
so
I
it's
you
know
not
seeing
it.
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
G
Thank
you
eduardo,
and
it's
a
it's
a
general
comment.
What
what
I
can
hear
from
my
friends
in
chapters
in
latin
america-
and
maybe
it's
an
explanation
that
why
they
don't
show
up-
which
I
think
john's
comment,
is
quite
quite
relevant:
the
the
amount
of
activities
that
the
chapters
need
to
do
to
get
this
status
and
have
some
financial
support
to
pay
the
the
taxes
and
all
the
things
that
they
have
to
pay
to
be
registered
at
the
national
level.
G
It's
overwhelming
they
have
to
participate
in
many
meetings
in
online
meetings
and
they
have
to
organize
themselves
events
if
they
don't
do
that,
it
doesn't
matter
if
the
event
is
organized
with
other
people,
because
that
doesn't
count.
So
you
know
that
eduardo
and
it's
volunteer
work.
So
my
my
take
from
that
is
some
people
at
the
at
the
board
level
of
the
chapters.
G
Don't
get
very
well
what
what's
the
role
of
the
chapter
advisory
committee,
and
why
should
they
devote
time
for
that,
especially
talking
about
anabel
cisnero,
which
is
the
president
of
the
argentina
chapter?
She
has
been
appointed
to
a
very,
very
high
level
work
now.
She's
director
of
the
national
telecommunications
company
are
sad,
so
she's
very
busy
very,
very
busy.
Some
of
us
are
helping
her
with
some
of
these
online
meetings,
but
it's
volunteer
work,
so
maybe
there's
there's
a
work
that
you
could
do
with
the
chapters
in
trying
to
let
them
understand.
G
What's
the
role
of
the
check
and
I
tried
to
appoint
people
and
participate
more
because
what
john
is
saying,
it's
it's
really
important.
G
So
what's
the
relevance
if
they
are
not
participating,
apart
from
the
fact,
the
numbers
of
of
the
forum
and
all
that
which
is
a
formality
and-
and
maybe
you
could
check
with
with
the
rules
that
you
established
for
chapters-
this
overwhelming
amount
of
activities,
because
it's
it's
too
much
for
volunteer
work,
some
of
our
are
okay,
but
that's
too
much
and
as
you
know-
and
you
know
that
many
people
want
to
participate,
but
then
very
few
work
really
because
it's
it's
time
of
their
own.
Thank
you.
D
B
C
C
Thank
you
perfect.
Next,
next,
next
one,
please
second,
nothing!
You
know
the
we
we
went
through
the
move.
You
know
we
have
a
meeting
the
24th
of
november
with
the
check.
Those
are
the
32
that
went
there,
because
we
wanted
to
vote
on
the
amendments
on
the
chapter.
So
between
proxies
because
we
are
obligated
to
get
proxies
for
people
that
are
coming
and
the
people
that
attend
it.
It
was
it's
a
total
of
43
chapters.
C
You
know,
but
attendance
was
32.,
so
we
couldn't,
we
didn't,
have
the
two
thirds
happening,
so
we
couldn't
do
anything.
So
the
meeting
was
very
short.
15
minutes
gone,
we're
having
another
one,
we're
going
to
have
another
try
on
december
22
and
this
time
we're
particularly
pushing
to
every
chapter
believe
it
or
not.
People
don't
answer
my
emails
and
we
just
keep
sending
and
sending
and
sending
and
sending
it.
So
I'm
we're
planning
to
go
different
routes
to
get
to
the
delegate
to
send
us
a
proxy.
You
know.
C
One
next
one
this
is
the
last
one
so
coming
you
know
this
is
looking
ahead.
They
had
you
know.
The
things
that
we
were
talking
about
are
things
that
have
relay
are
related
to
the
membership
system
and
things
that
are
happening
with
the
opt-in
and
opt-out.
C
Maybe
you
know,
some
of
the
things
have
been
fixed,
other
ones
are
being
worked
on,
so
we
this
is,
you
know
like
an
ongoing
thing,
and
this
is
something
that
we're
going
to
pass
to.
The
next
team
is
to
see
if
they
want
to
move
along
with
you
know
or
whatever
work
we're
doing
there.
So
that's
it.
That's
that's
my
presentation,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
allowing
me
this
time
to
talk
to
you
about
the.
B
C
No,
no,
the
election
already
passed.
Oh
it's
no,
but
I
mean
okay
yeah,
it's
just
there.
The
new
team
has
been
elected,
officially
elected.
B
B
Yeah,
of
course
no
I
mean
that
that
that
that's,
of
course
we
can
always
do
that.
But
no
I
mean,
then
you
know
I
mean
eduardo
just
I
wanted
to
to
thank
you,
for
you
know
all
all
you
know
this
period
that
you've
been
basically
leading
the
the
chatter
advisory
council,
and
you
know,
we've
been
basically
having
a
lot
of
meetings
and
a
lot
of
offline
conversations
and
stuff
like
that.
So
I
I
think,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
whole
board.
B
You
know
to
thank
you
for
all
the
efforts
and
all
the
energy
you
have
put
into
the
role
and-
and
it's
been
a
pleasure
to
to
work
with
you,
even
though
not
you
know
we,
we
didn't
agree
on
everything
all
the
time,
but
I
think
that's
healthy
disagreements
and-
and
I
think
we
took
it-
you
know
professionally.
So
I
I
think
that
was
all
productive.
C
Okay,
absolutely
you
know,
I'm
not
disappear,
I'm
sorry!
C
You
are
disappearing.
Yes,
sir
yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
this!
C
I'm
still
involved
with
work
with
the
work
that
we
do
in
isoc
here
in
puerto
rico
and
in
general.
So
you
know
whenever
you
need
my
help.
I'm
here.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
media.
Sorry,
we
were
a
few
minutes
late.
So
can
you
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
excellent,
thank
you
and
thank
you
media
for
sending
the
the
report
and
in
advance
that
was
very
useful
for
trustees
to
basically
process
it
before
this
meeting.
So
you
want
to
present
it
or
you
want
to
go
straight
into
q.
A
it's
up
to
you,
media.
I
I
Then,
let's
just
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
so
that
slide
was
only
there.
This
is
the
same
slide
and
last
time
just
so,
you
have
some
faces
and
you
can
see
somebody
else
and
me,
but
it's
still
the
same
people
next
time
we
change
in
march,
then
the
report
there's
even
more
information
from
the
last
ietf
meeting.
The
report
is
online,
like
there's
all
the
kind
of
logistics
in
there.
I
We
had
like
one
appeal
that
we
processed
we
had
like
one
appointment,
there's
actually
new
appointments,
since
we
created
the
report
and
now,
for
example,
we
reappointed
colin
as
the
colin
perkins
as
the
irtf
chair,
there's.
Some
information
about
programs
documents,
like
one
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
quickly-
is
that
we
also
send
a
reply
to
icann's
draft
final
report,
and
we
mentioned
there
this
discussion
about
private
use
of
top-level
domains
and
there's
ongoing
discussion
about
this
in
further
coordination
with
icann.
Here
in
case,
that's
something
that's
interesting
for
you.
I
I
can
tell
you
more
and
then
there's
the
second
link
here,
which
is
the
slide
to
the
open
meeting.
So
that
was
a
new
thing
we
established
at
the
last
itf
meeting
to
get
better
in
touch
with
the
community,
and
that's
also
where
we
report
more
about
the
technical
work
we're
doing
so,
if
you're
interested
in
that
part,
you
can
check
out
those
slides.
I
So
that's
the
formal
part
then,
on
the
next
slide.
I
want
to
attention
put
your
attention
on
that.
We
did
restructure
a
little
bit
in
the
iab
in
that
we
realized
that
the
the
thing
how
we
organize
our
work
is
in
programs,
and
we
figured
actually
that
we
have
two
different
kind
of
programs,
one
kind
of
programs
where
we
actually
do
technical
work,
where
we
see
like
a
very
concrete
problem
that
is
not
well
addressed
in
the
itf,
and
we
think
that
needs
more
attention.
I
And
we
want
to
like
to
to
do
some
work
about
this.
And
then
we
have
these
other
kind
of
programs
where
we
do
more
administrative
things.
So
we
have
a
group
of
experts
that
can
help
us
out.
So
we
do
separate
these
things
now
and
we
structured
ourselves
just
like.
So
if
those
terms
come
to
your
attention
in
future
that
you're
not
confused
about
this
and
then
especially
about
the
technical
programs,
we
have
two
programs
at
the
moment,
one
about
evolvability,
deployability
and
maintainability.
I
That's
also
something
I
told
you
about
last
time,
so
that
program
is
now
officially
established
and
there
have
been
slides
in
the
iab
open
meeting.
If
you
want
to
learn
more
and
then
there's
still
the
model
t
program
about
the
internet's
red
model,
which
is
also
ongoing
activities,
and
then
I
think
the
last
next
slide
is
my
last
slide
already
yeah.
I
So
this
is
also
something
I
told
you
about
last
time
that
we
were
planning
for
this
workshop
to
get
some
input
about
what
happened
during
the
the
start
of
the
crisis,
and
we
did
actually
did
help
this
workshop
just
before
the
itf
meeting.
So
that's
now,
like
four
weeks
ago,
the
idea
here
was
to
collect
some
information
about
what
actually
happened
during
this
period
to
get
a
better
understanding.
What
operators
did,
what
did
application
developers
do?
Which
actions
were
taking?
I
What
were
the
pain
points
and
also,
what's
a
lesson
learned
for
the
future?
I,
from
my
side
can
say
was
it
was
a
really
interesting
discussion.
I
We
had
we
got
a
lot
of
measurement
data
and
it
was
really
good
to
see
all
this
measurement
data
together
because,
like
I
think,
everybody
on
its
own
only
looked
like
at
this
one
part,
but
you
really
need
to
see
all
the
data
to
get
the
whole
picture,
like
we
kind
of
concluded
that,
as
you
all
know,
it
kind
of
went
well,
there
was
like
no
major
outtake
or
whatever,
but
they
are
probably
like
side
points
in
some
areas
and
whatever
which
really
need
future
work
more
work.
I
B
B
F
Just
a
quick
question
on
the
on
the
posting
of
the
videos:
have
you
gotten
any
indication
whether
there's
kind
of
further
engagement
with
the
post
session
videos
outside
of
the
the
workshop
itself?
Are
you
getting
reasonable
views
of
those.
I
I
mean
like
I
can
probably
check
the
youtube
statistics.
I
didn't
do
that
we
didn't
get
any
further
direct
input.
We
also
mentioned
the
workshop
at
the
ibo
meeting.
Had
some
discussion
there
there's
still
the
workshop
mating.
That's
where
the
participants
are
subscribed,
there's
also
not
much
activity
right
now,
but
as
we're
working
on
the
report,
probably
I
guess
some
of
the
discussions
might
come
up
again.
Also.
I
Something
I
want
to
mention
is
that
this
workshop
was
virtually,
of
course,
and
we
had
one
session
on
monday,
one
on
wednesday
and
one
on
friday,
and
there
was
actually
it
was
actually
nice,
because
we
had
some
email
discussion
in
between
and
we
could
prepare
for
the
next
session
because
there
was
always
a
day
in
between
so
that
worked
out
really
really
nice.
For
the
for
the
discussion
we
had
there.
F
I
F
If
you
get,
if
the
id
gets
10
000
subscribers,
then
then
you
can
start
to
consider
monetizing,
but
I
would
personally
be
someone
who's
coming,
we'll.
J
Yeah
I
mean
we
had
a
thank
you
indeed
for
miriam
for
your
presentation.
We
had
earlier
a
session
with
omak
and
one
of
their
workshops
was
about
internet
with
resiliency,
and
I
really
wonder
if
there
were
any
overlaps
of
any
interesting
discussions
that
members
of
these
various
groups
come
together,
especially
with
their
corporate
establishments
that
are
mainly
responsible
for
keeping
the
internet
alive.
I
Yeah,
so
we
also
did
discuss
resilience.
I
think
we
we
mentioned
it
more
as
something
that
we
need
further
work
on,
rather
than
having
a
solution
for
it.
We
I
think
in
the
workshop,
it
was
interesting
to
actually
get
some
of
the
people
who
have
been
working
behind
the
scenes
and
and
report
back
and
and
being
able
to
ask
questions,
but
we
also
noticed
that,
probably
in
future,
you
know-
that's
just
relying
on
such
a
workshop
is
is
not
the
right
tool.
Somehow
we
need
to
get
this
discussion
going
more.
B
Okay,
thank
you
thanks
media,
any
any
further
questions
before
we
move
on.
D
I
B
B
Thanks,
okay,
alyssa
thanks
thanks
for
joining
so
so
it
was
yeah
great
to
have
you
here.
Okay,
this!
This
video
is
moving
okay.
Now
now
I
I
know
where
you
are
again.
So
do
you
want
to
kind
of
you
know
present
something
or
you
want
to
go
straight
into
q,
a
or.
F
Actually,
I
don't
have
elicit
slides
yeah.
H
Apologies
that
I
did
not
send
in
advance
give
me
one
second,
and
I
will
bring
them
up.
B
H
They
may
have
been
created
today.
Let's
see.
H
Oh,
but
perhaps
I
can
just
give
you
the
link
kevin,
because
I
think
these
are
accessible
to
anyone.
B
H
Yeah,
so
I
know
we
only
have
a
couple
of
minutes
and
it's
here
at
the
end
of
your
meeting,
I
thought
I
would
just
focus
on
one
item,
which
is
you
know,
how's
the
ietf
doing
in
light
of
covid
in
terms
of
participation,
because
I
thought
that
might
be
something
of
interest
for
this
group.
So
during
the
last
ietf
meeting
we
were
in
the
in
the
preparation
for
it.
We
collected
some
statistics
that
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
participation
during
the
year.
H
There's
only
so
much
you
can
get
from
looking
at
quantitative
data,
there's
obviously
a
qualitative
aspect,
but
I
can
show
you
a
few
numbers.
So
let's
go
to
the
next
slide
please.
H
So
we
looked
at
the
amount
of
email
that
our
itf
participants
are
sending.
If
we
compare
between
this
year
and
last
year,
we
have
a
little
bit
more
email
traffic
than
we
did
last
year,
so
perhaps
people
are
stuck
in
their
homes,
they're
actually
doing
a
little
bit
more
iutf
email
than
they
did
last
year.
But
overall,
if
we
compare
year
to
year,
this
seems
like
a
fairly
healthy
metric
that
we
aren't.
We
aren't
losing
the
traction,
at
least
in
the
email
discussion
due
to
covid.
H
H
What
we
see
is
we're
we're
sort
of
roughly
on
par
with
with
2019
a
little
bit
below
in
the
july
august
september,
time
frame
and
also
again
here
at
the
end
of
the
year,
there's
some
seasonality
to
this,
because
we
have
a
deadline
before
each
itf
meeting
three
times
a
year
by
which
people
need
to
submit
their
documents
or
technically
in
order
to
be
considered
during
the
meeting.
H
So
that's
why
you
see
some
fluctuation
in
this,
but
again
overall,
this
this
metric,
I
think,
tells
us
that
our
participation
rate
in
terms
of
document
new
documents
being
posted
is
hasn't
dipped
too
much.
H
And
then,
if
we
look
at
the
last
one
there's
just
one
more
so
this
is
for
brand
new
internet
drafts.
We
call
zero
zero
drafts
because
that's
the
version
number
that
gets
allocated
to
them.
So,
in
this
case,
we
we
have
seen
a
bit
of
a
dip.
So
if
we
look
from
the
the
covid
period
onward,
you
know
we
certainly
have
a
gap
when
we
compare
to
last
year
again,
we
don't
really
know
how
the
the
end
of
the
this
year
will
play
out.
H
H
We're
only
doing
a
two-year
comparison,
and
so
it's
possible
that
there's
actually
a
more
substantial
fluctuation
in
this
if
we
looked
back
at
further
years,
but
this
is
just
what
we
were
able
to
compile
thus
far
so
on
the
whole
in
terms
of
the
numbers,
the
participation
rate
we
think
is,
is
actually
quite
good.
We've
had
also
fairly
robust
registrations
for
each
of
the
the
meetings
during
covid,
and
you
know
part
of
that
has
to
do.
H
I
think,
with
you
know
the
ability
for
people
to
join
remotely
when
they
they
couldn't
necessarily
have
done
so
previously,
depending
on
time
zones
and
so
on.
So
that's
all
been
good.
You
skipped
my
thank
you
slide
gonzalo,
which
was
like
actually
the
main
event
here.
I
I
wanted
to
say
you
know
express
my
genuine
appreciation
for
the
work
that
this
board
has
done
throughout
my
tenure
as
itf
chair.
H
I
think
this
might
be
the
last
time
that
I
make
one
of
these
presentations,
because
I'm
stepping
down
in
march,
I'm
not
sure
when,
when
the
next
board
meeting
is,
but
in
particular
for
the
agreement
that
the
llc
board
and
the
isoc
board
were
able
to
reach,
as
far
as
the
on
ongoing
funding
support
for
the
ietf
llc
and
even
more,
in
particular,
the
matching
program
for
the
endowment,
some
of
you,
I
think
have
have
been.
H
H
But
for
me
personally,
it
goes
back
many
years
now
of
trying
to
bootstrap
the
fundraising
for
that,
and
so
I
just
wanted
you
all
to
know
how
much
I
appreciate
the
seriousness
that
that
you
approach
that
topic
with
and
I'm
just
so
grateful
that
we
were
able
to
to
reach
an
agreement
and
I'm
really
hopeful
for
the
the
future
of
fundraising
efforts
on
the
ietf
side.
H
Now
we
have
a
huge
huge
incentive
to
get
the
ball
rolling
there
and,
for
you
know,
a
really
worthy
cause
for
for
the
internet
and
for
the
world.
So
you
know,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
collaboration
on
that.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
lisa,
so
I
I
think
we
were
very
pleased
with
with
the
agreement.
I
mean
the
operational
funds.
We
we
hope,
really
that
you
know
they.
They
can
basically
cover
everything
that
was
kind
of
you
know
planned
for
for
the
near
future.
In
the
next
six
years.
We
didn't
also,
we
didn't
want
to
have
a
too
short
agreement
either
so
that
you
guys
can
plan
strategically
and
all
that
and
we
thought
that
six
years
was
kind
of
hitting
the
sweet
spot.
B
So
that
was
good
and
then
yeah
I
mean
it
gives
not
only
the
itf
a
big
incentive
to
to
raise
funds,
but
also
gives
incentives
to
other
organizations
to
basically
give
funds
to
the
itf
when,
when
there's
an
amplifier
there,
so
we
really
hope
that
you
know
you
guys
basically
get
those
30
million
dollars,
because
you
know
you
managed
to
to
raise
all
that.
So
so,
let's
hope
for
that.
I
think
pepper
was
saying
something.
E
No,
I
I
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
also
thank
alyssa
for
her
leadership
at
the
ietf
in
helping
you
know
with
the
llc
and
restructuring,
but
more
generally,
your
leadership,
an
iatf
on
a
lot
of
issues
and
before
that
you
know
especially
going
back
to
the
iron
transition,
so
it's
been
really
essential
and
greatly
appreciated
from
the
whole
entire
community.
B
Thank
you,
pepper,
yeah.
Absolutely
I
mean
thanks
a
lot
for
all
these
four
years
that
you've
been
basically
putting.
You
know
energy
into
that,
and
we
know
sometimes
it's
a
thankless
job.
So
so
you
know
we
we
appreciate
it.
I
mean
I'm
because
we
understand
what
it
takes
to
to
do
all
that
so
yeah
again
thanks
a
lot
for
for,
basically,
you
know
driving
the
the
organization
in
in
you
know,
basically,
during
during
these
four
years,
any
more
comments.
I
don't
see
any.
B
Okay,
mike.
A
I
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
minute
just
or
less
than
a
minute
just
to
echo
the
gratitude
that
we
all
have
for
elicit
leadership
over
this
period
of
time.
It's
been
exemplary.
You
know
from
now
on
we'll
tell
future
chairs.
Why
don't
you?
Why
aren't
you
as
good
as
alyssa,
so
they'll
have
to
bear
that
burden,
but
that
won't
be
your
problem.
A
B
Excellent
okay,
perfect!
Thank
you!
So
again,
thanks
a
lot
alyssa
and
well
I
mean,
even
though
maybe
this
is
your
your
last
time
presenting
to
the
iso
board,
we
will.
We
will
keep
in
touch
as
usual,
and
you
know
we
will
see
each
other
in
you
know
different
events.
Okay,
so
thanks
a
lot.
Alyssa
absolutely
take
care.
Take
care
bye-bye
with
that.
We
move
into
any
other
business,
any
other
business
from
anyone.
B
Exactly
exactly
okay,
perfect,
so
hearing
no
aob,
then
I
move
to
adjourn
so
okay,
pepper
seconds.
Thank
you.
The
meeting
is
closed.
Bye-Bye
bye,
bye.