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Hey everyone thanks for joining today,.

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Can everybody hear okay, oh.

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Yay we've got a big crowd today, which is awesome. um Excuse me, while I open up my fifteen thousand tab, so right now on the agenda, we don't have a lot, that's listed. So if you do have things you want to cover, please do type it into the working doc I'm going to put the link to that here and the zoom chat. So everyone can have that handy.

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Is there anybody that's new joining us today? That wants to say hi, hey, tell us about yourself. What's your favorite dog is important things like that.

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Well, April um you but I guess: I would use myself when I start be damned there.

B

You go that's right, you got to build the anticipation and we have it. We have a good bit of folks here on the call today, which is great night. I suspect the demo was a large part of the draw there. So that's awesome.

B

If no one else has anything they want to introduce, we won't put you on the spot, just a couple of things that I want to call out. So Khan is coming up. If you've never been das on or heard about it, it is pretty much the open source event and it's going to be in Portland this year in July and there's going to be a really great SEO presence there, because they're having an SEO day, which is awesome. So this is going to be an entire day of the conference that is focused to all things.

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That's to you and so right now, there's a call for presentations going on for that day, I put a link and our working dock. The call for presentations ends on May 23rd, so that is fast approaching, but I highly encourage you to submit to that and we'd love to have you there at all fun I'll be there I know a lot of the team. Here will be there and so we'd love to see you we'll kind of share some information as we get closer about, maybe some meetup opportunities and things like that.

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But definitely if you have something like you know, you were implementing a few or you have a specific use case. Things like that they're really interested in that, since we know that people are starting to use it in production, it's great to get some of those stories and then kind of share things. You've run into or things that didn't go well or went great. Things like that. I still highly recommend some topics on that.

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So the link is there if you have any questions or just want some general information or want some help with a CFP or maybe are looking for a co-presenter, definitely reach out to me, I'm happy to help and then there's also, if you haven't yet joined the SEO rocket chat, do that we have a channel for events and one of the things you can do in that channel is kind of use that, as a spot to say, like hey I, want to present so they've been any the co-presenter things like that.

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So that's a great way to meet up with folks that might also be interested and presenting. So if you haven't yet joined rocket chats you should because it's cool and the limit the link is also in the working dockets from the last meeting, but all copy/paste as well and move it up some. But do you join us there because we're getting the user community getting going there? So it's a great way to connect with others.

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Yes, Kevin do that. That would be awesome alright, so if no one has anything else, they want to share or add we can jump right into the demo. If, if John, you want to do your introduction and show the cool stuff sure.

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Hello, everybody thank you both for inviting us into this meeting the show the demo I know you originally talked like. Oh you couldn't make it so I'm part of his team, so I'll be showing you a demo of key ally. Nobody knows what Kelley is it's a basically a uie front-end to what the SEO team is doing and let me share my screen before I get into it.

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I've never used soon. So give me a minute.

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I'm, assuming you can see my screen- yep, yes, okay, okay, so my name is jonathan Tilly I work with yuki-onna group were a bunch of folks right now in Red Hat we had a few community members from the outside on right now that are beginning to wanna contribute. So if you are interested in de Cali project and want to contribute, please come on in or on freenode chattering, County Ally, we do have Google Groups Kalighat if just get in touch with us any way you want don't get hot, mostly so feel free to jump in.

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If you see some things that you want to contribute to. So the first thing I want to mention is.

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We do have a paycheck, the zoom stuff in my life. Long live yeah all right. Yes, there's some gauge. If you want to know what Kelly is all the help we're going to? Basically visualize things are happening in your service mesh using this, so here's the key, an account on Io I will talk about this much just. We need to this each go either. If you wouldn't have my introductory what Kelly is how to build it better on it? You have any questions you just shout it out.

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I'm gonna, try not to long, but if you have any questions feel free to shout out what I'm going to do is I'm going to actually go through the booking, so demo parts of it, those small parts of it and I'm sure people on the caller familiar with it, which is why you want to use it as I go through the demo. You know how Chianti is visualizing things. Those things are happening so hopefully right now. This is the key alanine screen. Is he single you guys can see my entire crime.

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Watching shake her head: okay, alright! So right now, I had the book into the demo installed. Everything is running, but no request have been sent through it. In the past few minutes, we've been able to audit detect services and their linkages between the services in the mesh now I'm gonna. On the tutorial, we will see how the how do you, like the he's now go over 50 pieces.

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The object counties so first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to create the route rules which were party, but candy is here book, intro, general I'm just going to be cutting eastern commands and we look magical. But if you're familiar with the book into the tutorial, you will have gone through this yourself. It's really using the SI rules, a bit of cooking pictorial by its largest created the rat rules for the okay. Again on this here. Here, quality review breaking details, news on come on.

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There are homes created for me, so I'm going to go over TV Kelly interface, and here you can see these badges. This is telling you that with just correct these records, these are now travels on these moves.

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If we select this notice, the product pt.1 service, the side panel is going to show you details of that. You can see it a little more here that it has at least a route rule on it and if I go to the service details page where they sleep right here, then this look at this a lot more detail about.

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What's going on here and I'm gonna ship it around roll them just right, just you can be familiar with, and here's about little like we just created there is the poor outdoor games from the tutorial any requests coming, and it's going to go to version 1 of this sort of this, like nothing really special about that and it's the same thing with use around the ones are different, but notice everything is black. All these edges are black and you could have got any traffic yet.

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So that's all, but real, quick I want to mention you, the screen splash, if you hover over a nude, but these things focus on that movie and just highlight the incoming edges outgoing edges, incoming nudity.

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Do you want me to 3pi highlighted Eber, so I'll explain those in a minute. I were to come in honey, lengthy these grants, you can see I've we focused in on. Do you love you reviews if I focus on ratings here, you can see what's coming in from just really basically picked everything up it just helps. You visualize focused in a little bit more on what your folks I were to select some things that one is select the ratings note here it basically specs.

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So now, if I, don't everything is not a change, just a way to fix the grass, so you can see things. I click outside the grass I got that good of money before we consume. You know, of course, if a large mesh doesn't work, come start for look for now.

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So I'm going to submit a request to the berserk TV product, each of the Evel Knievel's.

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Go to the show again should all look familiar. If I refresh this th notice, there's no stars. That means it's going to the urgent one love the views service, but then, if you're familiar with a book into a demo, you understand this. If you're not I, recommend coming through the booking by the demo, it's pretty easy and very helpful to learn. Just you all right, so I just need a vault request. There we're going to adjust the zoom controls on my legs on this.

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Sony refresh.

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Okay, so here you can see, we've got some green lot easier when I sent the request and I'll explain. This onion is no universe. Right now, I know the unknown I'm in here basically saying your request came in, it didn't go through the is the ingress, but it came directly to the project page product page. This is again a browser request from outside the caches community to the cottage. If I were to have gone through the address itself, you were seen bringing it coming from the aggressive like they just some of you.

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The request came in through the ingress into our mesh, but right now I went directly to the product page and, if there's more to it, okay info demo works you're, going to go, get a request to get the details of the book plus get your amuse and tutorial on the virtually one of the reviews doesn't get the ratings. That's why? Even seeing stars and you'll see what I mean lies these stars and it's going to diversion one of this service, so you won't seeing stars because where are you readings? That's this is show me here.

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Hopefully that makes sense if I were to select edges you're going to get data about the edge requests per second, the percentages of successful, if you feel for that edge, if I was like a nude you're gonna see in and out so you can see be in the press coming into requests going out, whether they were successful or whether they and this little spark line graph gives you a little timeline, but the number of plus percent you come.

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We have X labels, you can see requests per second, so if I were to be able request for a second, you can see d-104. These are basically showing you the requests per second for that edge. You can see what your traffic is. We added a new thing recently latency, so nine weeks requests per second but I'm showing latency now the time it took for the requests to get through filters here very simple: we can hide these badges see that I had to use.

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We could hide new labels again well too noisy if their emissions low, you are conceding their labels and while missing side cards, I will talk about the missing side cards. It's got such a bad attitude. If we're listening aside for just a little past weekend, you missing a side. Car and I'll show certain breakers in one day.

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Okay, so now I'm going to create another ground war again, this is fun.

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Now I'm going to submit a, let me show you with this.

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Again, there's a good way to show you how you can see what these dogs are. Just selective memory use service diverging route when I go to my service speech, so I got to me how here's a new one. If you look again, this is from the tutorial. If the user Jason send the request in it's going to go to virtue of already so that this scruple, that I just created, was right.

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Now let me go over to the app let me sign in and it's Jason.

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Yes, word: okay, now my name is Jason. Now you can see the stars when you see the start of that now we know we've gone to burgeon. This is nothing more than what these do, not rules or they're doing and if there's a minute couple requests just to see that their games keep seeing the Black Stars. Let's go back to you know fun than here. Yeah I know, that's really good. At last units we can see the last notice. The traffic me how it's going to version two, so it came in from unknown.

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There is our driver details, and this time it came into the perfect. So there you can see that our goal actually will work because you've got screen. Traffic's coming in. You can see the last minute we get any. First of all, it'll go to version. One I need an anonymous request that it logins juicy.

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So now, let me add another level where it is some fault reduction, and this is our tutorial.

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So this is going to be ratings.

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I'll show you I'll just create it. So, let's go to the readings, come to the details. Let's see what Bravo was just created right, here's the new route, all that we just created if Jason the user gene sends a request.

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This time it's going to go, where's you one of ratings, but it's going to have a fixed delay, 7 seconds 175. This is what the route Goldstone you can do so I just should. If I go, if I show we're gonna do what does become still likely to Jason when we refresh this, this should wait 7 seconds.

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Alright, so spinning needs me.

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Okay, you notice. Now we've got an arrow fetching, the reviews. This is what that growl did it, but the Delaney cause.

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You know he's showing now now I wish only begotten arrow. This is what the router will just did here. You can see an interesting here as you can see. You know 3 2, X X, that mean that was the that was the health education page. That was a 301 page. Then it also shows that we've got some arrows here. If I were to click this edge here you can see half my work, almost half my requests, wherever that was when I submitted that request when Apple of delayed 7 seconds was think likes.

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These other green ones were my early requests that went and was successful. I look at the list.

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It's see last minute there was a liar or something others, because the last request I didn't convince me. That was not failure, because I.

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Didn't want to make a side note here if jelly came actually submitted in this, do this year won't get home, because if you notice the branch looks kind of near here notice, this edge is red. This edge here is green. The opting here is the delay was aunty. This new tear gum two ribs. Lately, though, the router was created on the reading service, and it was this reading service that caused the problem. Who ever heard this Dao is not saving the proper metrics. The show the failure here on this edge. It's showing you one.

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A request goes back to use of here. This is correct, but this edge should be read here of a technical. Is the Oh isn't collecting metrics starting at the source noon? I, don't know the full details, there's an issue, a github issue about this problem, and it has to do with the latest deals. Collecting insurance I just wanted to point that out with you're looking at the sugar. Why is that? For you? There is an issue that we need to correct in in this.

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Do in the way it kelan's mentions, but at least we do see that it is detecting some problem here in this edge and by the way notice the latency you can see here the links he is showing you know nine seconds. That's due to the drought move delight. So here you can see that no edge later will hug the tongue.

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Alright, so let me delete that round.

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Like you, leader, that value now, if I go back and my tasting user here and if I refresh this- that she go back to normal skin starts and there we go so out, rules Donny all right rules gone for that delay. So we should be able to see no he's pretty last night.

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Last thing I did was a quick breaking example is not with them. I would business something that I think don't just do a little quick sort of a get richer than left. Only those I'm doing.

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To Creek circuit breaker, all reviews.

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Refreshingly imaginative, she was certain approaches. Now you can see it's. You know the lightning bolt, that's showing you there's a circuit breaker on here, but my select, this guy yeah. Here's her details, peach, oh by the way notice for showing you health due to mind the previous error that we were generating key Holly's telling you there's something not right over here now: Golden Pavilion, seven seconds, but initially the destination policy was created.

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So here you can see, circuit breaker was created on here and it's the typical sort of partner that you see in all the demos, the circuit breaker. That requires only one request at a time making currents the quests and it's coming. Well, it's gonna send a fault.

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Let's go back to the graph last minute. We've got no requests yeah. So let me send an anonymous request.

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Songs, it is a request when I'm not logged in nobody's working, it should be going to version one, because our original route pools are in place. Ships III there we go so you see green, go into virgin one. This is the original radicals that we originally had that I haven't believed it. That's sending everything to burgeon Lonnie. What we're seeing so everything's good great the circuit breaker is not looking now. Let me money before I/o road tool.

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Let me send some cards here. You can see we're getting a bunch of five of threes, so I know I know the circuit breaker trigger these circuit breakers open because we just sent a whole bunch of lets, punch it concurrently classes.

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Now here you can see the rig this is. This is telling you that the circuit breaker.

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So that's your trigger closing this request down and here you can see the bar graph, showing you there's. No, let's look here. You can see the incoming class and after class. Now again, this you would think would be red because the circuit breaker here is open, but because this skill isn't collecting metrics for the source node where the circuit breakers open. We can't see that earlier so once this here gives us a few internet into that, make sure we'll be able to show this is ready right now.

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We don't have that my trick, so you can't show this is what we can show that the quest coming in here didn't have an error because of this.

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All right, that's the demo.

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Thank you so much I know there were some questions and the chat I think some of them got answered, but I don't know if anybody still has anything they want to talk about. I know: Lynne had some questions. Yes,.

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So I think the question hasn't been answered. Words. Can we run this on other Cuban at ease? Besides OpenShift, for example, people watched Iran in Cuban, adding IBM Carlo gke? Yes, so I.

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Didn't show it a good call. This is running on an overshift I had this morning on TV show it can run on just air kubernetes I thought that, and we had recently someone called the IBM. The equivalent I know people running on an artifact. We just had somebody contact us yesterday about one of your rights and column charts. It installed open the other users, so there are people out there that are interested. It can get it to run now, but there are there's efforts of Flik, maybe easier to install.

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The idea is not to make this ownership specific.

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Ok, can you share with us the install instructions and also I assume your demo is based on Co seven one and it's not totally updated to Co atm. Yes,.

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This is zero seven one. This is not updated too early, yet the instructions again point you to the calotype github that I know this is I believe. Did you just over instructions? We had some kubernetes first and make file to get you to deploy this on kubernetes I'm use it with mini cube.

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So hopefully, if you need instructions, please feel free to send us an email at Google, Groups, okay, okay, thank.

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You Mourdock.

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Sonia, so this is certainly an work in progress and organic working. We're not trying to eat this /, specifically to get their instructions out they're doing so on a little.

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Pendulum, can you show the link to the metrics and the traces? Oh.

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Let me let me do.

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Ya, sorry, this is actually what I was supposed to do enough. Good luck! We got to scroll down a little script here at the school I'm going to delete the route goals that are rally everything the version one so now: everything's gonna route to version, 1, 2 or 3, easily round avec nano minute I'm just going to do some curl I'm, just going to start setting a whole bunch of stuff so I'm, just on my knee curl using watch and now I'm sending a bunch of requests. So let me refresh this.

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Our polls are still here.

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The lead of the rebels fell because I couldn't find the file. ah Thank.

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You I'm going to earther.

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Yeah that I'm just doing this like Excel, won't you request me this either you see the greatest I'm doing and now I'll show you my tricks.

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Okay, so here it is notice that the route rule badges over here here here go on. So here's important one now to round off three versions. So that's why you see greens here greens here so we got requests coming in over the place right. So if I go to say.

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Here's our service, East, Hills, pH and I, showed you just a genetic. Could you see the route rules and the destination policies, but here with that I'm not sure excellent, and this is just ship real, quick chart of metrics, don't phone off so like a quick view of some of the basic niche that you're going to look at intuition down below you can skip link, but I can go to Romana.

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Getting a look at more details. This is the typical yellow profile page. You want to drill down on the seat, everything that were finally.

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Alright, there's also the traces here, and this is going to take you to the younger stuff, and here you can see the armor or the Agra funky twist notice, this limit or taking to the reviews, because that's what I selected a new audit and then I can just drill down to my tricks on. So this is how you can get tracing particular particular services is.

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So that's a good crowd box, mana and premises and um J guards at characterization.

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But if you don't have them work, okay,.

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So you only need a crowd premises for this view,.

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Driving most of us metric data and we're also extracting the mesh.

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Here on the service areas- effort, yes, so right now it's per namespace! This is a good question right now over in the streams and we're doing some design meetings which we're doing this out in the killer chat. So if you're, inserting this please participate, question is: how do we show a mesh that spans multiple databases right now we're showing for news is?

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We would like to ship a mesh that spans me question is how do you do that you show namespace and show knows taking it out and they need to click those nodes that teach it to the other namespace. How do we visualize cross game spaces when we're doing Nationals? This is a question we're working on right now and you see today. It's strictly permeate space, yeah.

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We look at this. We did the same Anisha its your integration with web scope and I think. Well, we come up with maybe using label as a namespace, so as a user I can add label to my graph to say: I want this label to add the default namespace at booking for namespace, so that I can choose one home or because now you have a drop-down, which typically means only one.

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Because because I know, the weather company has been speak, very highly of louisia I was just trying to think. What's the what would be a comparison between what you guys have with with it, which we're also interested in the issue of integration with video and I find out for Visio.

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One thing you really need is: you could have like many many services and then you could all visualize them together and with the service graph, you have I'm a little bit worried like if you have 40 services, how big they can get and also back to the name is prob. What? If my service is spam, multiple namespace? How am I going to visualize that so.

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Definitely, questions that were trying to answer now. I do want to bring up a quick point, a kind of tangential, but if you see this layout here we're actually trying to fiddle with what's the proper light I'm showing, you is a great way we have these other ones. These are. These are cytoscape layouts right here same scheme, well, not quite sure what the best one is. We want to keep one layout. We want to do several of them. We're not sure what this is kind of ugly :.

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You can see we can do different layouts for dishes that are better larger, say forty services, a hundred what's the proper layout and we're not quite sure yet what the a woman is. That's why we have this drop-down, let one person, oh.

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I see no, that's your green thing is always libel. This is all past traffic. Like do you actually show live traffic because right now nobody hits with info, because it's confusing you actually have a solid, green.

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Edges green in search traffic and the green here is 100% success rate. You saw red. That means we had some errors. There look at me even show our names, for it make sure I forget whether but the demarcation point is, but it's trying to show you success versus versus failure. So up control your eye too many problems in Ganesh black means. It's been no traffic in the last minute, alright. So on right now, I'm looking at the list, you're questioning the this does not getting like it, don't making late but stop interface.

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Yes, this is passed since the last time I refresh that's when you're going to see I think this refresh button over here already been brushed over here. You're you're gonna see this up now I'm running I'm running. This is curl like this is morning in the back I'm sending the question sweet you're talking. So that's why you keep seeing green because there's still requests coming out Tantalus if I were to talk over in a minute you'll see. Eventually this go go.

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Okay, so it is live data as mine, so it's refreshed frequency, oh yeah,.

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Because I didn't keep refreshing.

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I'm, looking at the other questions here, how big is this important out it? You do have now I haven't played with this. You know oh yeah, but I know our guides have implemented alpha 3 support, I, don't know a big is finished. Somebody online news is for sure. Oh.

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Yeah, so booking fall has been updated to we wanna 3. It's actually this automated testing as part of every single builds, so you should be able to get it Ronnie. If you want to try the release candidate.

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Why is that? They resemble a.

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Certain breaker, oh because I, don't know why circuit breakers electricity, lightning bolts! That's why I take it. We do have new XP folks that are looking at our stuff they're, helping us better design, our user interface here. So we do plan on updating these badly cons to be a little better representative. Look at me so that github, merge icons represents a router.

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Yeah because I look at the mojo.

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There are specific reason McNally as a separate set up for open shift.

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There is talk about somehow integrating Canali as an open ship onion. Those talks are very preliminary. It was more like he want you guys to focus and yogurt ship console identity, separate, yes, that if that is something we're talking about, however, again, we don't want to make this strictly OpenShift specific, so we didn't want to be sensitive to community.

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Metrics issues because we're not collecting client-side metric. Yes, there we go. That is the issue. Thank you. So you can see who the Kelly, you I, why? That issue is important, because it kind of the error that you see is kind of weird because of that client I'm, not sure it's not being collected. We get this I mentioned collect it. It will make that much more intuitive about where the error is. So that's an important issue for us, so anybody's listening, they'll attempt.

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Now we can come down edit or redirects and Kelly award I don't know. Hopefully, Ledo can look into that.

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Yes, thank you, April, that is to give up their speciality.

B

If anyone else has any questions, you're welcome to unmute and ask directly or anything you want to add.

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It's not I can't stop sharing there's for everybody really appreciate it.

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Yeah and if you're interested in joining a Kelly community, you want to help but I build this out. Please feel free. Yes,.

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A hug I was a serial community right now it's a pretty much redhead. It.

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Is pretty much right at this time? A fairly new product product object, though, were pretty much right had folks, like I said we had a guy yesterday wants to do the non chart. Somebody was talking about I wanted to do about the the IBM terminate his integration, so we are getting some interest, but honestly for the majority, we are with.

D

Okay, thank you. Hey.

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Guys pretty it's pretty fantastic um as.

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You gonna integrate this.

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In with you, Qi is the you to leverage like Final, Four, metrics and used to be traced.

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Kind of looked out there you're asking if we integrate the open ship that we stow them to integrate with the other, with.

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Frank, yes,.

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So younger for sure, on the work big on the order, so that is our distributive tracing solution. So that's what we're focusing on I see. No reason why we will we will not use the final it you see today at least the very at the very least, they'd agree. You know links to it. Do some other interesting things so I don't see why we wouldn't okay cool.

B

Awesome well, thank you again, John for sharing that with us.

B

We've got just a few minutes left over the call. Does anybody have anything else that they want to add or talk about overall, with the SEO project.

F

Is there any update on 0h.

B

Len, can you maybe think about I think you're, probably the most up on that on the call? Yes.

D

So Jasmine, who is so product manager, a project manager for Israel and she's, been sending out a note on dev list and today is the Israel community day to help us testing. So we actually just started testing ourself in the past week or so, and there's a release candidate, build I, believe I actually have it just installed on my machine, so it's May 15 at 5:00 p.m. I. Don't miss West!

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So it's the time zone, but there's probably only one build on that day, so feel free to grab their build and also, if you are available, I, believe the community tested meeting it's up until 4:00 p.m. California time, so the Easter, your developers, a couple of us, are hanging out there to answer questions.

D

So one thing I wanna make sure every where well is. We are looking really looking at user experience on body in 2:08, so we do expect your existing application. You old about you to continue work after you move to 0-8, and then you should be able to add your own pace to use the migration tool to convert the old, Network, Yama file, the old route rule and the ingress to the new gateway and the new virtual services, so be good.

D

Sidecar injection everything at your own pace, a.

D

Nice person, you have on Co eight weeks back, it may be another week or so there will be my best guess as we hard to make sure it's tested, make sure the website had documentation is up-to-date.

B

And I just posted a link in the chat to the forum post. That judgment had done about the community, tough things. So if you've got time and want to jump in and take a look at what's out there, that post has got a lot of the information yep.

B

And testing isn't just today, but today's the day that the team is kind of live on a hangout to offer advice and help. But you can do testing any time, but we love to have folks. I know you.

D

Yeah, in fact, it will be really cool, because the main team has been testing over a classical example booking for the hello world. You know we have been testing gas book only very few limited example, and this is a stable release where we want to support it for three months. It will be really appreciate if you guys actually have some other example and try it out and let us know so. We actually fix this peoples if it goes out.

B

I have to put that link in that working doc if anybody needs to grab it later.

B

Anything else, any other questions.

B

You you alright well, if there's nothing else for the day, then we can wrap up and get a few minutes back in our day. Thank you. Everyone for joining and thanks again John does. The demo is really great. We've got the links to everything in the working doc and I'll paste. The whole chat there as well, so that you can see all the other questions and everything that was asked.

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We will have our next community meeting in two weeks and just a reminder, please do check out the ozk on PSP and do join us on rocket chat as well and do some testing. So that's your homework all right. Thanks everybody. We will see you in two weeks. Bye thanks.

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