Jenkins Advocacy and Outreach SIG, 12 Aug 2020

Previous Meeting Next Meeting

⏯

youtube image

►

From YouTube: 2020 08 12 Jenkins Advocacy

Description

Jenkins Advocacy and Outreach special interest group meeting Aug 12, 2020.

A

Roxanne this is mark waite. um I had we'd had to start a discussion in the online chat about possibly canceling this session. Oh okay, I don't I'm waiting to see how that shakes out. We've got um so since we're not recording, yet, I think, we're. Oh, no. We are recording it. I'm going to pause the recording, okay, okay, so pause. How do I pause?

A

Oh well of just the uh we've got an issue with our alpine image. That needs our attention and we're we're working that issue right now and I'd rather spend the time on that than worrying about the advocacy meeting today. I think we could skip this meeting safely.

B

I completely understand.

A

uh So I'm going to stay online here for just a moment awaiting an answer: a confirmation from oleg.

A

Unless there are two specific topics that are of worry to you,.

B

No, it was just a follow-up on like this month and what we did for the graduation and all that.

A

Okay, all right great, thank you, and so, unless I was just telling roxanne that oleg and I were having a conversation in the getter channel suggests we might just cancel today's session. uh Oh looks like we may have oleg here as well. Okay,.

C

Yeah well, I decided to just uh join for a second, mostly just in case. There are folks from cdf.

A

Okay yeah, I was just telling roxanne that we've got. We've got challenges right now that working on a technical side that I think we would better spend our time working those technical challenges and skip today's advocacy session.

C

That's fair point: at the same time today we do technical challenges. I guess we also have a lot of non-technical ones, which we cannot really discuss at this call, but yeah.

C

So we could still do a quick sync up, especially in the terms of seeing jenkins, graduation and cdf, so to ensure that we don't have open open action items where actions are needed from outside ah good point. Okay, so the only.

B

Question I had was, if you still wanted to write a more detailed roadmap post, whole egg, or if you were happy with just pointing to it like we did.

C

Fine, either way, I'm not happy, especially exactly. I would like to write a full blog post at the same time, my responsibilities at the the job. Don't allow me to really execute any significant time to that.

B

C

Yeah, so the story is basically, I didn't get heads up about the roadmap mini blog post.

B

Yeah, I thought tracy would have told you she just told me: she forgot I'm sorry about that. Yeah.

C

uh Well, uh generally, it's nice to have something in place, so it's not something like. I had hard feelings about that yeah. At the same time, I de-prioritized uh the roadmap blog post to focus on other things and we're taking other deadlines and yeah. I'm going on my my security issue.

C

I don't think that I will get to that right now.

B

But if you ever do we'll just publish it, it's yeah.

C

Yeah thanks for reminding me about that, so, okay, basically I'm doing similar uh presentation for devops world okay. So I would have to prepare content anyway, um but yeah just too many things to handle at once, and this I think uh just good between will.

B

It be recorded.

C

The devops worlds, uh yeah, um it will be recorded. I believe videos will be published so as usual, because we could also point to that.

B

You know, or instead of an article.

C

uh Well, let's see, I still need to write an article for jenkins io, uh because it's all second in my checklist for items. So it's not something like I completely decide not to do that. It's just.

A

C

C

Yeah, actually, I go to decent progress. So if I wasn't writing a blog post, something like five pages, etc and probably two would have been ready by now. Yeah, okay,.

B

That was it for my side and jackie's, not here, but I assumed if she had something she would ask.

D

So uh I have one item: devops world jenkins awards as we've done in the past. um We need nominations.

C

I submitted my nominations.

A

I have not, and I will I solemnly promise submit nominations. I had some some great.

C

Ideas, though,.

A

D

Well, um I still so so oleg you submitted your nomination through the uh devops world uh website.

C

Okay, so I submitted the three nominations for all three jenkins roles. I didn't get to anything else, because I was also doing something like several hours before we do. The line.

D

Okay, all right uh mark. What I can do is, I can send you the spreadsheet and you can just um add your nomination to that spreadsheet.

A

Okay, that would be wonderful. Thank you.

D

Okay um and then the other item that I have was with regards to jenkins is the way tweets, so um abc consulting is the vendor that has been helping us to write up the case studies and the user stories, so I've asked them to generate tweets for us, because I know that everybody is so busy and they and they did that they we have a rolling set of tweets that they have already created.

D

um What is the best way for us to, I guess, to have folks review it and possibly use it.

C

There are two parts of the question so first, uh what twitter account do you plan to use, because right now there is jenkins, is the way twitter account and, to be honest, I have no idea who owns it. uh Is it here alisa? No, okay, so it's not mark it's not tracy. It's not me.

A

C

D

C

uh Terrifically might be.

A

uh But uh I would be surprised if it were marquee just because there's been a recent tweet from it and I didn't think he was actively tweeting on the on on jenkins. Recently.

C

Yeah so uh yeah we can ask, who is that, uh but yeah there is jenkins, is the way twitter account and yeah, I'm not who controls it. So.

D

Jenkins is the way twitter account uh that one, so what happened was uh um tracy initially requested that laura create tweets for us uh based on all these user stories and case studies, but laura didn't have time, and so I had a b consulting did that, and so we gave tracy the tweets and I think it just sat with tracy.

D

So then ab consulting felt like all this work that we've been doing is you know we didn't want it to go to waste right. We wanted to continue to give it visibility.

C

D

Then they created just for you, know the heck of it and see what happens they created. The the jenkins gives the way so.

A

It's a b consulting that owns. The that has control of the jenkins is the way twitter account.

D

Yes, but but my preference is for these tweets to come out of jenkins at jenkins ci handle, because I really don't want to create more things for us to manage.

C

So technically we can do that yeah. I just got a spreadsheet with tweets two days ago. I know that they were sitting around for months but yeah. I have access to this spreadsheet. Now we could set up tweets, etc. At the same time, it will need some reviews, etc and yeah. I'm not sure whether we would have been white right now.

C

Oh, you know you know the context, elisa yeah, so yeah best effort, yes for sure.

C

If we need to do a massive effort right now, firstly, I would suggest to postpone it, maybe for two additional weeks before the summer break is over because yeah now it's still a terrible time for any promotions, but yeah, maybe in two weeks. So what we can do we just well the dust settles we schedule, maybe one hour two hour session together. This mark, maybe advocacy not reached six members. We review all the tweets, then we just put them in the system uh for scheduler for schedule, tweets and then yeah.

C

They will be just post on an automatic basis. um Yeah. So, for me it would be a preference because yeah the content in there and the ap consulting expert right. It's a shame not to use the content we created, because we haven't really promoted many jenkins the way stories, and we should do that.

C

So, let's try to do that at the same time, yeah one of the ways that, for example, if you're this, if you're willing with also join the uh twitter copy, editor's team or whatever it's called. I guess you're welcome to do so because currently, it's basically down to me mark and tracy, when we have some time.

D

C

um Okay, so yeah we can uh probably expand the team maybe to find more contributors, maybe even to switch to twitter as code as we were discussing but uh yeah. Ultimately, we need contributors to push social media as well.

A

C

Yeah, so I suggest that let's say put it on a hole for one week, then we just schedule something and get it published. Okay,.

D

Great, thank you. Yeah.

C

Sorry, if it's not ready to answer but yeah.

D

No, it's okay,.

C

Okay, so yeah uh more positive note we have uh the next bump for google summer of code blog posts in coming.

C

Also, we could use uh blog posts we have already published so, for example, if there are plans to have a newsletter, etc, we have uh seven blog posts posted within last two weeks on bank sayo, just from google summer, of course, so we could just uh get advice newsletter. Just for that- and I know that cdf also has other projects so for spinach for screwdriver.

C

uh There are also projects, so maybe that could be, for example, cdf for newsletter just for that uh event of google summer of code, so yeah. If you can help with that roxanne, I think we have some content which wasn't published by cdf here: okay,.

A

Now we actually have a lot of content like this. We we've also got this we're three days away from google season of docs announcing. We could consider using that as an announce uh as another blog post or announce point right, they're going to announce publicly. Aren't they the season of docs.

C

So for google seasonal docs, we have at least two cdf projects, so jenkins and jenkins sites. If I recall correctly, there was a cd foundation also participating, but I'm not sure whether they have been accepted but yeah still. We will have two projects we could promote from cdf.

B

Yeah, that would be really cool. um Who would write that? Would you want me to rate it like? If you give me the content, I could write something up or someone could write it like not the content.

C

But the appointment yeah how it works on august 16th, we will have announcements. I mean public announcements about other accepted projects. We know some details, but we can share them with these mentees. No, this public, but uh once the decisions announced there will be one month of community bonding, so basically mentees just get introduced to their communities, establish connections et cetera and.

B

C

Out to write a blog post or whatever could be a good opportunity. Yes,.

C

So for jenkins sex, I believe it's approximately the same so carol is not on the call today, but yeah. Both jenkins said supply for one project, some secret information, so most likely we'll get one project unless something goes completely wrong.

B

A

Good, so oleg was your: was your sense that we should and actively and actively announce the once that google has announced publicly google season of docs selection. Do we announce that at the cd envelope cdf level, do we blog post it on jenkins.io you're in different, not both okay, great.

C

So I don't think that there is much of concern about uh uh posting this similar content or maybe well. The angle would be different because it's rather about all cdf projects here about jenkins, so we can see how we measure the content but yeah. I believe that we could do some work, though I didn't really think about the goal: season of dogs, of course- and we had quite a number of documentation related announcements recently, but we can.

A

Do more, I'm I'm the official title documents documentation, docs officer, so I certainly can write a blog post right. It wouldn't no one will complain if I write another blog post. I have suspect yeah and it's for sure.

C

So yeah, let's see how we organize it, um but uh yep the video. We need to produce some more content right now. I guess for the next two weeks. Everyone will be busy, but then we can see how we actually get at least the post, from our blog, the clock, for example, like the roadmap like sponsorships, we also have announcements to post about system, permissions, etc.

C

So yeah we can generate additional content for both cdf and for.

C

Jenkins, okay,.

C

So I guess we also need to report. Something for jenkins is the way from the jenkins twitter account. I didn't do that before, because it wasn't clear who owns the account but yeah since the big consultant. I believe we need to promote them a bit.

C

C

Okay, so on a separate note: um okay, we are getting a bit more traction with linkedin. We are likely to hit 30 000 followers early next week, so it's 10 times more than it was in may.

C

Yeah we just recovered our twitter account and it helps to generate traction. So the next challenge is to actually convert traction to contributions. It is something we should be spending a bit more time on and yeah another update.

C

We actually got control of uh ready uh subreddit for jenkins, so that is that yeah, the history behind it that that was subreddit since 2011 or so three months ago it was moved to the moderator state, uh so owners, yokosuke and talia both of them had no time um so we there was no pause for three months or so and after some discussions, basically team jacom and me we became moderators there. So for me they became moderate results at the game they registered on reddit.

C

So please don't have done so high expectations about me, but yeah still.

C

We now have control of credit account and also facebook. So if we get automation, we can actually post to all these platforms and if we have some bandwidth and not on, we really need to think about this automation, because now we have twitter and linkedin and basically the format is completely different. So twitter is a microblogs and linkedin. You can post more or less full article, not a long one, but still so but yeah. If we do more systems, we don't need to think about automation so that we don't spend more time on that.

C

So yeah, that's quick, update about what happens here and there but yeah.

C

I don't think that there is much else to update regarding social media and other platforms and yes and for contributing guidelines and for the initiatives we didn't do much changes recently.

C

We will be definitely doing some communications and facilitating contributions towards photographers in october. The effort is still yet to be seen because it might be just rigorous stories like uh not like documentation, immigration and other stories. We have recommended post them. We organize a few events, maybe something bigger, but it really depends on how many contributors we will be able to get from the community, because we're.

B

Planning a push from the cdf for hacktoberfest too, for all our projects and maybe a newsletter on the topic. And if we do that, then maybe mark you could write like how to commute contribute to jenkins and where, like what you want, people to do and yeah that's good yeah, we're meeting.

C

B

Tomorrow, yeah.

C

Yeah so yeah, once there are more details about oktoberfest and cdf, we need to sync up because we have been doing oktoberfest in jenkins for three years or so yeah. It was still a kind of low scale effort, but yeah. For example. Last year we had uh 127 unique contributors and.

B

C

Of them we were first-timers so well, it's a good number.

B

Yeah, that's good.

C

So, let's see how we do it uh this year, but yeah. If you plan on some uh promotion, definitely we would be happy to participate as well, because I guess it's a win-win for everyone and yeah. Yesterday we finally made a decision on terminology. So now, officially we have jenkins controllers, not jenkins master.

B

That's great cool, uh then we can update the blog post because it's going out at the end of the month.

C

uh You mean one by early excel yeah yeah, uh basically alex is dreaming this decision in the community, so I believe he will contact you about that perfect, so yeah, there are some follow-ups, but we generally have a decision. How we proceed uh well, just well. We just confirmed everything yesterday, but definitely something we will be posting in this video from the engineering city resources as well, because it's important topic.

C

Speaking of that, what content management system does cdf use? Is it just drupal or what is weird.

B

Wordpress yeah and then salesforce to do like outreach and the newsletter and stuff yeah.

C

Okay- well, that's perfectly fine, so yeah in our case we use documentation as code, so there might be some difficulties with conversion if we want to integrate cdf wordpress to jenkins, but it's not like we haven't done it before.

C

Oh, we do a lot of integration from google docs to us. That's for sure.

C

So yeah, I guess uh alex- will be averaging thousand.

B

If not, I will.

C

Okay, thank you.

D

B

C

Okay, so anything else for today, another topic.

D

um I just have a quick one for roxanne. um When is the next newsletter going out, roxanne.

B

In september first, this week.

D

um uh So in case, if you need additional content for the newsletter, so devops world is, um towards the end of uh september 22nd to 24th, there's a lot of cdf and jenkins content on there.

D

So if you, you know, you want to take a look at the agenda and maybe, if there's anything that looks uh interesting to you, I'm sure they would appreciate a um a highlight on their session. Definitely.

B

That's a good idea.

C

Speaking of that is any plan for speaker blog posts or for devops voltage and an ensembl.

D

E, I would love that o like um but yeah this time thing. It's such an issue.

D

It's like it's like asking. First, I'm trying to track down everybody to get their their their time in to schedule their recording, because all the sessions are being pre-recorded and then oh, you got yours recorded mark done.

A

Done yesterday done.

D

You're, you are.

C

D

There's a few that I mean the events team is just having because I'm the chair for the community track and the seat well and and I'm responsible for cdf as well, and so I'm tracking down person by person, and it's like sucking up my time.

D

um So I also was on a call with all this with most of the speakers, and so I did ask for blog. So, yes, we would very much love to have some blogs technical blogs and jenkins dot io. So that would that's on my to-do list.

D

um Is there any way or because the conference now is called devops world? Can we promote anything besides the blogs on jenkins.io about the.

C

Conference yeah, so we discussed it if I recall correctly in spring, and basically we could promote it, especially if there are some clarity about how we organize posts, whether we do contribute or summit and other items we discuss at that point in basic, so same, for example, for gender. Yes, we can post it, especially if there is significant amount of junkies content, and I know for sure that there is but yeah.

C

The problem is that somebody needs to prepare that so, for example, if you already write a blog post with overview of devops world content, I think we can easily put it in our event calendar. We could easily reference that we could easily promote it in social media.

B

And I could link to it from the newsletter.

C

But it means so that somebody needs to prepare this content.

D

Okay, I'll do I'll do that.

C

B

C

uh Totally possible if we really found some community events, so I know for sure that there will be cdf booths but, for example, I am not sure what happens with community booths this. uh Will we have one, or will it be just one.

D

We will have one, so the discussion is actually I'm having the discussion with jude later today. What is so? What is our preference? Do we want to have like a community pavilion where we have all the cdf projects in this space or um do we want?

D

You know what we've done in the past, which is like just jenkins booth and then cdf has its own space. I'm I'm leaning towards a a community pavilion with projects, individual projects.

C

D

Okay, great all right, we will do that.

A

D

um Did you want uh contributors summit or anything like that? Oleg.

C

Well, if there is a way to organize it, um it would be nice at the same time, yeah remote contributor summit. We still need to think how we organize that and taking the time and time another commitments.

C

I don't think that we should schedule it, but yeah even there is a community boost whatever I think it's modern enough. Okay, we can probably do some community workshop, for example, uh how to contribute to jenkins or something like that- uh maybe same for other projects, maybe having some general contributing to open source et cetera, and it could also count but contributor summit uh yeah. I'm not sure it's just too much preparation and we don't have bad weights right so yeah for well.

C

I spent maybe one week for brussels preparing the gender content for um portable. It was less but still a significant amount of time. You would need to find.

D

Right, okay, so no contributor summit at devops world in september and then we'll do a um a community pavilion with all the cdf projects underneath.

A

It now we may want some do does devops world. Does the jenkins booth at devops world have a way to let us put a poster up or something like that. It might be good timing to promote hacktoberfest right it'll be end of september, and if we could sneak a poster in there somehow or you know, a clickable link guiding them towards hacktoberfest and helping the jenkins project might be a good noise generator.

A

D

And then we'll use the jenkins needs. You poster right mark.

A

A

We we, we still have not thanked senior nearly enough for having created that image. I think that was her image still originally, so this one jenkins needs you. The.

D

A

I I don't do the pointing finger nearly as well as jenkins does so.

C

Well, I can send you well, have you seen this photo from lisbon when, basically, we got kiki to cosplay.

A

Yes, I think I'm even in that photo, although I'm not nearly as good looking kosuke looks exactly right. That photo is just nearly the perfect thing. He.

B

Looks precisely.

A

Like, like the image that senor created.

C

Yeah I'll try to dig it up, but yeah. It's definitely some way in our twitter somebody else's twitter, but yeah. So I think we really need to discuss how we organize the content for devops world, though, since it's a virtual uh conference, we have opportunities in september, um but yeah yeah.

D

um Let's talk, let me figure what let me find out when the deadline for for those um items are and then we'll we'll work towards it. But I think we have some time.

C

Yeah yeah that we will see the corn in two or three weeks where basically well. I guess we will also have a separate booth there like any other project, maybe not but yeah. I guess it's a good opportunity to prepare so that we use the same format to conferences.

D

B

C

So yeah thanks for bringing up this topic, so we forgot about the boost and other things.

D

C

So yeah, then, if that's it thanks everyone and talk to you in two weeks right, yep, okay, thank you.