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A
Is
oh
right,
this
is
this
is
far
from
deprecated.
These
are
still
conversations
about.
How
shall
we
approach
it?
So
the
one
of
the
one
of
the
challenges
is
there
are
some
alternatives
that
okay,
my
employer
has
large
enterprise
customers,
so
my
employer
cloudbees
has
large
enterprise
customers
and
those
enterprise.
Customers
are
relatively
slower
to
move
versions
than
than
a
typical
jenkins
user
and
typical
jenkins
users
are
already
relatively
slow,
so
alternatives
that
were
offered
were
things
like.
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Should
we
continue
a
parallel,
you
know,
should
we
make
something
a
a
long
longer
lived
release
as
the
last
version
to
support
java
8..
You
know
give
it
six
months
or
12
months
as
a
viable
thing,
or
should
we
delay
the
the
current
draft?
The
current
rough
proposal
was
from
tim
jacom
june
2021,
as
the
transition
lts
so
make
it
go
there
and
with
that
transition,
that
would
mean
we've
got
just
just
a
little
over
six
months
to
get
people
ready
for
this
and.
A
Oh
yes,
thank
you
2022.
Yes,
I
do
good
correction
yeah
so
and
so
for
me,
that's
that's
feeling
too
fast
and
I've
got
to
express
that
in
the
mailing
list
to
say:
hey,
I
think
we've
got
we
need
to
to
give
ourselves
more
time.
We
used
we
used
12
months
or
more
for
the
java
7
to
java
8
transition,
and
I
would
expect
that
this
transition
needs
needs
a
fair
amount
of
forewarning
for
users
and
preparation
of
of
documentation,
code
changes,
getting
ready,
etc.
A
Start
a
plan
after
the
new
year,
so
I'm
I'm
not
expecting
to
start
work
on
the
jenkins
enhancement.
It'll
use
a
jenkins
enhancement
proposal
to
describe
the
plan
just
like
we
did
for
the
docker
image
change
and
the
docker
image
change
plan
was
very
helpful
because
it
exposed
all
sorts
of
surprises.
While
we
did
the
planning.
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A
A
Simplify
the
restart
process
to
make
it
even
better
so
so
there
are.
There
are
some
positive
things
there,
but
development
is
complicated
in
that
area
and
testing
is
really
complicated.
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A
Yeah,
I
think
that
would
probably
also
be
affected,
because
systemd
install
docs
will
certainly
be
affected,
because
systemd
thinks
differently
about
how
you
set
configurations.
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B
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B
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A
B
And
we'll
look
at
the
pr,
you
see
the
things
that
I
linked
to.
I
wrote
I
wrote
this
to
go
through
the
entire
managed
jenkins
screen
right.
A
B
Fine,
I
wasn't
sure
I
wasn't
sure
what
the
convention
is.
It's
been
back
and
forth
and
I
started
doing
it.
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
I've
I've
been
using
the
convention
of
not
doing
it,
but
I
don't
have
a
strong
opinion
and
I
certainly,
if
there's
a
there's,
there's
a
technical
writing
standard
for
it.
I'm
fine
with
either.
B
A
B
My
my
thought,
and
which
was
I'd,
love
to
hear
your
input
on
this-
is
that
if
I
were
new
to
this,
that's
a
big
screen
and
I
would
like
to
open.
I
would
like
to
have
a
document
that
walks
with
you
that
screen
and
tells
me
what
I'm
seeing.
A
A
No
administrative
monitor,
oh,
I
know
how
to
get
administrative
monitor
up
there.
We'll
do
this.
A
There
there's
an
administrative
monitor
right,
that's
top
right
hand.
Corner
thing
says:
building
on
the
built-in
node
can
be
a
security
issue.
You
should
set
the
number
of
executors
to
zero,
see
the
documentation
and
there
it
is
good.
Okay.
Now
now,
in
general,
those
monitors,
don't
necessarily
include
links
to
the
changelog.
A
Not
as
well
so
I'm
on
let's
go
here,
I
am
if
I
go
to
manage
jenkins,
so
here
I
am
and
that
administrative
monitor
will
still
be
visible,
I'm
going
to
go,
bring
it
back
so
just
a
moment.
While
I
bring
it
back.
A
B
Okay,
so
let
me
so
may
include
useful
links,
such
as
to
other
documentation.
B
B
A
A
A
Let's
see
if
we
look
at
global
tool
configuration
that's
a
good
one,
comes
up
pretty
quickly
and
over
here
there's
a
question
mark
that
tells
me
hey
what
to
do,
and
here
there's
a
question
mark
and
here
and
the
question
marks
are
steadily
getting
better
in
terms
of
their
consistency
where
they
appear
etc.
So,
one
step
at
a
time:
yeah,
yeah,
good,
okay,.
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A
B
A
B
A
Do
we
want
to
do
we
want
to
link
from
here?
Oh
you've
got
it.
You've
already
got
it
so
well.
Okay,
so
we've
got
a
link
for
this
one.
We
don't
have
a
link
for
the
the.
Let
me
see
if
we
can
get
one,
because
I
I
like
that
you've,
you
you
put
the
for
more
information,
and
this
thing
in
particular
highlights
hey
we're
doing
some
major
stuff.
A
Then
there
was
a
blog
post.
I
think
on
the
change
to
the
to
to
what
was
it
to
manage.
Oh
to
the
configuration
page,
maybe
not,
let's
see
manage
jenkins
overhaul
of
manage
jenkins
page.
Yes,
there
is.
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B
A
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A
B
B
A
Okay,
so
system
configuration
group,
all
right
system
configuration
global
tool,
configuration
manage
plugins,
yes,
good,
okay
and
oh
yes-
and
you
set
it
here
very
good-
yes,
okay,
but
we
show
it
here
because
we
intend
that
everybody
should
have
this
thing.
That's
right!
We
would
prefer
that
every
every
jenkins
installation
has
configurations
code,
good,
okay,
so
now
back
and.
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A
B
B
A
A
A
A
May
have
been
don't
know:
okay,
yes,
I
so
when
I
when
I
need
to
know
disk
usage,
I
will
commonly
go
to
this
location
and
look
at
all
the
the
disk
usage
report
that
comes
from
the
the
list
of
nodes.
The.
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A
B
A
B
A
A
C
A
Troubleshooting
manage
old
data,
and
this
one
does
this
one
appear.
I
thought
that
one
only
appeared
if
it
was
needed
that
it
was
oh,
no,
no,
it
is
always
there.
My
mistake.
Okay,
great
all
right,
this
one
has
a
is
begging
for
yeah.
That's
a
brilliant
short
description
there.
You
could
write
books
about
this
thing.
A
How
jenkins
intelligently
handles
arrival
of
data
or
detect,
detecting
data
that
it
doesn't
know
what
to
pr
how
to
process
it
and
it
puts
it
in
this.
Manage
old
data
thing
and
it's
it's
really
quite
cool,
okay,
so
screens
for
common
tools
and
actions.
Okay,
now
back
to
the
oh
right,
yes,
okay,
good.
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B
A
Yeah
so
well,
and
all
I
was
while
you
were
gone.
All
I
was
doing
was
change
the
fixing
a
reference
okay
yeah,
so
the
reference
was
is
listing,
cli
dash
dash
a
doc,
and
it's
actually
just
cli.
B
B
And
now
there
I
wasn't
sure,
are
you?
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
sure,
yeah,
okay,
we
don't
have
a
section
for
prepare
for
shut
down
and
shut
down,
and
it's
like.
I
don't
know
that
I
want
a
whole
stock
page
about
that,
but
I'm
not
so
right
now
that
has
no
link.
A
Yeah,
okay,
now
now
you
mentioned
okay,
so
well
so
say
that
again
help
me
help
me
save
one
more
time.
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A
B
A
A
B
A
And
now
this
one,
these,
the
things
that
you
listed
in
the
ad
in
the
the
uncategorized
group
are
actually
now
categorized.
I'm
really
proud
of
that.
That's
a
big
win.
They
are
now
system
information
system,
information
system,
information,
so
load
statistics
is
in
system
information
and
let's
go
to
mine
that
has
more
and
monitoring
of
jenkins
agents
and
masters,
but
that
one
comes
from
a
separate
plug-in.
So
I'm
not
sure
that-
and
I
don't
know
how
popular
maybe
we
should
look.
Actually,
let's,
let's
check
to
see
just
how
popular
it
is.
A
So
20
000
installations,
so
roughly
10
of
the
installed
base,
is
using
it
so
that
one
may
that
how
do
you
want
to
handle?
What
do
you
recommend
for
handling
optional?
I.
B
A
B
A
Well,
so
they
are
there
if
the
user,
this
one,
for
instance,
is
there
if
the
user
installed
the
the
monitoring
plug-in.
Likewise
for
this
one,
this
one
is
there,
I
think
if
they
install,
I
don't
know.
If
it's
the
docker
cloud
plug-in,
I
don't
have
it
and
ci.jenkins.io
doesn't
have
it,
for
example,
okay,
but
but
I
suspect,
if
I
were
to
install
docker
cloud,
maybe
let's
do
that.
Let's
just
see.
B
B
A
B
A
Wait
a
sec,
oh
oh
different,
page
script,
approval!
Sorry!
I
need
to
look
at
the
right
page,
so
script
approval
which
is.
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A
C
A
B
B
B
B
A
B
B
B
There
is
another
older
related
pr
out
there.
That's
not
mine.
A
A
Maybe
distributed
builds
migration
from
from
I
forget
from
how
embarrassing
jonathan.
C
B
A
B
No
that's.
This
is
one
that
and
I'm
sorry
and
I
just
lost
a
whole
bunch
of
tabs,
etc.
So,
but
god,
just
a
minute
ago,
before
this
meeting,
I
went
looking
and
spotted
it
and
we
get
basically
somebody
else
like
a
year
before
the
before
the
ui
changes
had
gone
through
and
done
something
about
configuring.
The
made
the
maybe.
B
A
Right
and
yep
you're
you're
exactly
correct,
so
so
well,
so
let's
take
a
look
at
okay,
so
what
he
changed
it
was
to
configuring
the
system,
and
this
is
in
contradiction
to
your
change
right,
because
we've
got
your
change
is
going
to
switch
us
strategically,
so
that
sys
this
system
configuration
page
is
a
description
of
managed
jenkins.
No,
no.
A
Okay,
got
it
so
manage
jenkins,
and
you
say
there
is
a
cyst.
The
first
thing
under
managing.
B
Jenkins
is
configuring?
The
system
got
it,
okay,
which
right
now
is
content
free,
but
you
have
added
content
to
this
or
have
you.
A
A
B
A
B
B
A
B
Under
man
like-
and
I
do
like
and
he's
talking
about
the
rest
apis
and
you
know
that's
a
place,
and
where
do
we
mention
cask?
We
mentioned
that.
That's
they
are
on
that
list,
but,
and
it
may
be,
I
would
sort
of
think
in
configuring
this.
It
may
be
that
configuring,
the
system
begins
with
mentioning.
We've
got
this
ui
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
talk
about.
But
there
are
other
ways
you
can
set
configurations.
A
That
that
would
be-
or
have
this
might
be,
a
good
place
to
say:
hey
configuring,
configuring,
the
system
you
can
either
do
it
through
manage
jenkins,
which
then
linked
to
the
manage
page
or
through
configurationist
code
and
linked
to
configurations
code
or
through
yeah.
So
I
I
think
this
page
the
way
he
the
way
he
approached
it
is
valid,
but
we've
shifted
the
content
elsewhere.
But
if
there's
still
some
content
that
we
use
here,
we
can
certainly
take
it
from
him
and
bring
it
in.
B
A
Not
conflate
this
one
is
once
once
you've
had
a
chance
to
think
through
the
the
proposed
changes.
This
one
is,
I
think,
ready
for
us
to
merge
and
it
gets
us
out
of
having
this
page
listed
as.
B
B
Yeah,
just
because
I
copied
that
from
someplace
else
right
and
should
look
actually
that's.
That
is
new
content.
It's
not
very
much
but
see
if
you
agree
with
it.
A
A
B
B
B
For
context
you
know
we're
talking
about
daniel
beck
is
our
security
officer,
and
he
is,
he
knows
everything
else
too,
he's
really
really
good.
He
is,
of
course,
very
hard
to
get
resources
from
and
right
now
with
log4j.
I
think
everybody's
doing
that,
but
so
this
is
a
pr
that
I
did
a
while
ago
and
it's
sort
of
sitting
there
and
aging.
A
A
B
B
B
B
A
A
B
A
Probably
yeah
just
go
into
what
you
do.
Is
you
open
up
the
pull
request
and,
on
the
top
right
hand,
section
here,
there's
a
convert
to
draft
yeah?
D
Nothing
for
me,
just
I,
and
while,
while
you
were
going
through
the
whole,
what
you
were
going
to
make,
I
was
a
little
bit
lost,
but
I
just
had
down
some
things
that
I'll
check
up
on
google
had
this
meeting
I'll
just
check
it
out
myself,
because
I
I
do
not
want
to
draw
us
back
on
this,
so
I'll
check
it
out
myself
and
probably
in
the
next
meeting
or
I
could
reach
out
to
xeno
or
send
mark
email
in
case
of
anyone.
So
that's
actually
what
you
think.
B
You
are
welcome
to
put
a
comment
in
because
donut
it's
on
these
sorts
of
things.
This
is
written
for
somebody
who's,
just
starting
with
the
system,
and
you
may
have
insights
that
mark
and
I
completely
miss
because
you
know
that
this
isn't
clear.
So
I
would
love
to
have
that
kind
of
comment.
It
would
be
very,
very
useful
for
everybody.
B
D
A
All
right,
okay,
I've
anything
else
before
we
close
for
the
day,
so
no
meeting
next
week,
I'm
unavailable
next
week,
but
then
we'll
be
meet
again
the
following
week.
So
I
will
be
gone
december
30th
and
we'll
meet
again
january.
6Th.