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A
Welcome
to
jenkins
documentation,
office
hours,
it's
the
31st
of
january
2022.,
thanks
for
being
here,
topics
we've
got
on
the
agenda
today
include
news
and
a
proposal
to
change
meeting
date
and
she
could
africa
contribute
on,
and
linux
installers
switch.
Oh
and
the
weekly
shame
on
me
weekly
change,
log
review,
which
may
take
longer
this
week,
because
they've
been
a
lot
of
changes,
open,
pull,
requests
any
other
topics
we
should
put
on
the
list.
B
Yes,
I
also
wanted
to
have
a
brief
discussion
about
the
gsoc
meeting
that
we
will
be
having
this
week.
Okay
good.
So
let's
put
that
here.
A
A
Includes
many
changes
it
may
there's
a
chance.
It
may
be
delayed
one
day
for
further
changes
and
the
reason
there
is.
A
Let's
see
any
oh
and
then
gsoc
project,
ideas
and
recruiting
mentors
and
recruiting
are
happening.
C
A
We
are
we're.
We
certainly
don't
have
enough
mentors,
but
we've
reached
out
to
previous
students,
we've
reached
out
to
previous
project
part
previous
mentors
and
have
received
some
yeses,
so,
for
instance,
natasha
stopa,
who
wrote
the
plug-in
installation
manager
during
her
google
summer
of
code
project
two
three
four
years
ago,
has
agreed
to
be
a
mentor,
so
so
we're
getting
some
progress
and
it's
good
to
have
those
who
had
previously
done
projects
be
mentors
because
they
have
insights
into
what
works
and
what
doesn't
right.
A
Okay.
So,
let's
see
next
proposal
was
I'd
like
to
change
this
meeting
to
happen
on
tuesday
at
2
a.m.
Utc,
instead
of
instead
of
or
to
change
to
meet
friday
at
2,
am
utc
instead
of
tuesday
2
a.m,
utc.
So,
instead
of
this
time
it
would
be
three
24-hour
periods
later
so
72
hours
later,
but
same
time
of
day,
exactly
precisely
the
same
time.
So.
C
A
A
C
D
A
A
A
Okay,
I'll
put
it
on
up
I'll,
update
the
calendar
and
and
www.jenkins.io.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Okay,
all
right
onward
to
next
then
jenkins
can
now
perform
startup
completion
notification
in
systemd.
A
This
is
part
of
a
change
that
basel's
been
working
on
to
get
jenkins
ready
to
support
system
d
for
on
linux
systems
instead
of
supporting
system
five
in
it,
so
we're
joining
the
modern
age.
I
guess-
and
I
think
it's
actually
sufficient
there.
So,
although
we
usually
don't
use
use
the
word
jenkins
in
the
in
the
text,
so
maybe
it's,
let's
propose
an
alternate.
A
So
text
says
jenkins:
can
now
perform
startup
completion
notification
too,
so
is
it
can
so
at
this
point
it
can
do
either
one
right.
Well,
yes,
so
there
isn't
such
a
thing
as
startup
completion
notification
for
system
five
in
it,
so
okay,
so
yeah!
This
is
this
is
a
new
capability.
C
Okay,
the
ability
to
use
system
d
was
already
there.
A
Notify
systemd
notify
systemd.
A
C
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
A
And
that's
what
he
says
here
is
is
after
the
advisory
should
we
put
some
text
in
there
about
the
advisory.
C
Of
the
message
they
may
not
care
about
the
and
we've
already
told
them
that
if
there's
an
update,
they
should
get
it
so
they
will
get
the
benefit,
but.
C
C
You're
having
fun
with
this,
so
so
so
do
I:
where
are
these
images?
These
are?
These?
Are
these
in
documentation?
Are
these
elsewhere
in
the
product,
they're.
A
A
D
C
D
D
A
D
So
I
was
like
it
could
be
like
using
the
wrong
like
remove
here,
but
yeah
yeah.
This
makes
sense,
then.
E
C
Okay,
what's
the
label
of
upgrade
guide
needed.
A
Well
automatically
is
such
a
strong
word.
It
happens
because,
because
a
writer
reads
it
and
says
we're
going
to
put
that
in
there,
yes
yeah.
So
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
search
for
upgrade
upgrade
guide
needed,
pull,
requests
that
were
merged,
then
we'll
be
sure
that
we
bring
the
text
from
those
into
the
upgrade
guide
and.
C
Oh,
there
is
more
updates.
C
A
E
A
A
I
see
there's
the
singular
versus
plural
that
you
write.
I
just.
C
A
A
C
A
A
Okay,
so
it
says
we
need
to
get
rid
of
the
word
entry.
One.
A
Oh
so,
if
I
ask
for
aws
or
azure
or
google
cloud,
I
may
get
one
of
each
of
those
trying
to
satisfy
this
request
until
this
change
is
brought
in.
Aha,
so
should
it
say
something
like
during
cl
when
applying
trim
labels
during
cloud
provisioning
during
cloud
agent,
provisioning.
E
A
No,
when
okay,
too
many
whens
there
so
handle
label
expressions
by
applying
trim
labels
or
in
wait
a
sec
handle
label
expressions
in
trim
labels
when
provisioning
a
class.
Maybe
it's
just
this
handle
label
expressions
when
provisioning
a
cloud
agent.
Why
do
they
care
about
trim
labels
even.
C
C
Right
and
that's
meaningful
to
me
label
expressions
are
lovely.
C
B
I'm
just
wondering
that
there
is
the
word
terminates
so
d.
Do
we
want
to
include
something
like
that
as
well.
A
D
A
B
So
in
the
original
sentence,
what
does
this
cleanly
means
like.
A
A
That
previously,
when,
when
the
a
kill
minus
term
was
received
on
on
unix
systems,
like
linux,
mac
os
freebsd
openbsd,
this
shutdown
hook
would
not
be
called
so.
The
things
that
should
have
been
done
due
to
a
an
attempt
to
exit
nicely
were
not
being
done.
If
I
terminated
with
this
unix
signal
and
that
unix
signal
is
sent
by
things
like
a
service
service
manager,
system
d,
for
instance,
it
informs
processes.
A
I
want
you
to
stop
by
sending
them
a
turn
signal,
and
it's
expected
that
the
process
will
handle
it
and
receive
that
term
signal
act
on
it
and
then
exit,
and
so
what
what
it
did
before
was
it
received
the
signal
and
just
exited
without
acting
on
it.
So
now
that
he's
registered
a
shutdown
hook,
it
should
receive
the
signal
act
on
it
and
then
exit.
B
So,
like
safe
determination
of
process
on
receiving
term
signal,
something
like
that.
A
A
Or
something-
and
in
fact
it
may
do
that
right,
because
if
the
signal
arrives
and
usually,
for
instance,
linux
shutdown,
the
shutdown
process,
shutdown,
minus
r
will
probably
send
a
sig
term
to
the
process.
But
if
the
process
has
not
exited
within
a
certain
timeout
period,
it
will
just
send
a
kill
minus
nine
it
will.
It
will
send
a
heart,
an
unblockable
kill
to
it.
C
D
C
A
C
A
A
A
A
A
They're
the
same
thing
right
so
here
we
go.
15
termination
signal,
sig
term.
C
A
C
Rather
than
all
the
again
stuff,
could
it
just
be
correctly
expand
text
boxes
or
something
like
that,
and
the
fact
that
we
show
a
regression.
A
D
D
A
A
A
A
C
A
C
A
C
A
E
A
D
C
A
C
A
C
A
A
C
A
A
B
Yes,
a
small
one
like
what
is
the
scope
of
discussions
that
can
happen
in
this
meeting
like
just
doubt,
solving
or
a
participant
can
discuss
the
progress
that
they
have
made
as
per
an
idea
for
a
particular
project
and
discuss
whether
this
is
the
right
way
to
do
it
or
not,
or
that
should
be
done
on
the
getter.
A
B
Right
so,
let's
say
if
a
candidate
has
made
progress
in
terms
of
code
and
they
want
to
show
the
demo.
Is
it
the
right
thing
to
do.
A
Now
it's
it's
a
place
where
hey
what
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
the
office
hours
is
assure
that
we
have
resolved
the
concerns
of
candidates
questions
they
may
have.
How
do
I
do
a
good
application?
How
do
I?
How
do
I
write
this
proposal?
What
are
the
things
I
should
be
considering
that
sort
of
thing
and
the
demo
is
a
good
way,
certainly
for
us
to
talk
about
hey
here's,
how
it
feels
most
the
time
a
demo
would
be
a
surprise
for
me
just
because
I
wouldn't
expect
to
see
implementation
of
the
project.
A
B
Yes,
it
did
it.
I
asked
this
question
because
when
someone
shows
a
demo-
and
it
wouldn't
be
fair
for
other
candidates,
they
might
be
thinking.
Oh,
he
is
he's
not
in
their
implementation
stage
and
we
are
not
yet
understood
the
project,
so
it
might
not
be
fair
to
them.
That's
why.
A
A
So
that's
why
we
we
invite
candidates
to
create
public
google
documents
that
are
their
plan
and
that
they
invite
reviews
from
mentors
and
from
org,
admins
and
also
other
candidates
can
see
those
documents,
and
it's
intentional,
because
we
like
for
people
to
work
off
of
each
other's
inspiration,
others
ideas
and
say:
oh
yeah.
That
was
a
good
idea.
I
should
do
that.
It's
open
source
and
that's
one
of
the
ways.
This
is
definitely
not
a
closed
source
proposal.
Project
process.
A
A
C
D
D
And
it
is
sad
because
sometimes
it
is
the
the
best
thing
to
do.
It's
is
to
show
a
picture
right
because
it's
it's
like,
oh,
if
things
are
so
much
easier.
If
I
can
just
you
know,
see
the
picture
and
then
we
know
exactly
what
we're
talking
about,
but
you're
right.
It's
right,
it's
hard
so
hard
to
maintain
to
keep
them
up
to
date.
Yeah.
A
C
C
A
C
There's
other
things,
if
you
had
say
actually
along
with
that,
would
be
code,
because
I'm
thinking
this
new
stuff,
that's
in
configuration
as
code.
If
I
listed
out
a
configuration
as
code
file,
that
would
change
now
and
it's
not
technically,
it's
not
technically
a
user
interface
change,
but.
A
A
A
A
All
right
so
other
other
challenges
here,
we'll
need
mentors.
I've
placed
several
of
you,
the
docsig
in
general,
in
the
list
as
mentors,
so
just
so
you're
aware
of
what
I
said
about
you:
inclusive
naming
initiative
code,
reviews
mentored
by
us
and
screenshot
updates
mentored
by
us
test
the
tutorials
mentored
by
us.
So
I'm
still
looking
for
others
who
are
interested
in
mentoring,.
C
B
So
I
have
a
question
here:
you
you
were
talking
about
using
selenium
and
automating.
So
was
that
a.
A
That
was
that
was
that
was
gavin
mogan,
making
offering
it.
As
a
suggestion.
I
find
that
kind
of
automation
a
little
unnerving,
because
so
what
he's
suggesting
is
here
is
hey.
You
could
automate
it
and
take
screenshots
as
code
and-
and
I
I
think
it's
interesting,
but
for
me
I
hesitate.
I
have
a
hard
time
imagining
that
the
automation
effort
is
worth
the
gain
that
we
get
from
it.
Yes,
we
could
generate
screenshots
every
release,
then,
and
absolutely
it
would
be
show
the
current
screenshots,
but
do
the
screenshots
change
enough
to
justify
that.
A
D
C
You
know
it
might
be
a
better
candidate
for
g
suck,
I'm
getting
the
feeling
that
the
the
she
code,
africa
people
are
more
interested
well,
if
they're
going
to
do
coding,
they
want
to
do
javascript,
not
java
right,
let
alone
python
or
something
like
that.
A
C
And
but
but
there
seems
to
be,
I
was
surprised
there
was
actually
interest
in
technical
writing.
There's
a
lot
of
interest,
I
think
in
program
and
product
management.
There
is
more
interest
in
some
of
these
other
things
than
in
hard
code,
and
I
don't
know
how
much
I
I
don't
think
I'm
getting
the
idea
that
the
african
universities
are
not
offering
real,
sophisticated
coding,
curriculum.
A
Right
and
that
matches
with
our
experience
last
year
right
last
year,
the
five
candidates-
they
were
top
tier
candidates,
but
they
came
to
us
with
almost
no
java
experience
and
strong
javascript
skills,
but
we
didn't
have
a
way
for
them
to
apply
their
javascript
skills.
So
we
put
them
into
very
deep
water
when
we
had
them
start
doing
java
based
development,
and
that
was
that
was
great,
but
it
didn't
seem
to
fit
them
really
well,
whereas
these
are
are
much
more
well
suited
to
a
brand
new
person,
who's.
C
E
A
Problem
is
it's
not
well
suited
to
a
first
first
time
first-time
contributor,
okay,
there's
uli
uli
hoffner
and
his
students
at
the
technical
university
of
munich
are
doing
significant
contributions
in
javascript
and
and
they
they
really
really
look
good
as
a
result,
but
that's
with
uli's
mentoring
after
five
plus
years
of
him
doing
it
and
being
very
close
to
his
students
as
they
make
progress
so
that
he
can
coach
them
and
mentor
them
these.
These
people,
just
don't
have
the
context
to
do
that.
Caliber
of
contribution.
B
A
A
Where
would
those
screenshots
be
visible?
Ideally,
so
let's
go
looking,
let's
find
a
few,
so
I
was
just
looking
for
these.
So
if
we
look
at
documentation
managing
jenkins,
I
think
is
a
good
one.
A
A
A
B
A
C
E
A
E
C
Oh
and
yes
and
you're
right,
but
there's
another
thing:
if
we
could
automate
it
the
potential
that
you
could
localize
it.
A
C
B
Yep,
so
you
were
saying
that
this
is
not
worth
the
effort
or
something
like
that.
A
No,
it's
that
it
well!
Well,
I'm
showing
my
biases
and
so
dhiraj,
don't
let
my
biases
rock
is
dissuade
you
from
being
interested
in
possibly
trying
it
for
me,
okay,
putting
a
shecode
africa
contributor
on
a
selenium-based
project
is
a
recipe
for
disaster,
because
my
experience
after
lots
of
attempts
was
that
selenium
was
just
an
absolute
train
wreck
to
create
and
maintain
now
cyprus
may
be
much
better.
There
may
be
other
things
that
are
better.
C
C
A
C
A
C
No
just
one
quick
that
big
security
restructure.
I
would
really
like
to
get
that
merged
daniel
nine
days
ago,
or
something
tagged
himself
to
re-review
and
nothing's
happened,
but.
A
C
It's
one
of
the
it's
like
I
will.
It
is
not
perfect,
it
is
far
from
perfect,
but
it
fixes
some
stuff.
It
improves
some
stuff
and
it
gets
the
structure
in
because
we've
already
had
one
case
where
he
had
a
new
feature,
and
so
he
went
in
and
rewrote
the
old
dock
to
reflect
the
new
feature.
And
then
we
had
to
go
back
and
I
and
and
the
fact
that
I'm
going
to
have
less
time
to
work
on
this.
C
B
No
I'll
just
continue
the
discussion
regarding
that
screenshots
with
gavin
on
getter.
I
think
great.
B
Yes,
because
I
I
worked
in
with
selenium
as
part
of
my
internship,
so
that's
why
I
was
thinking
like.
Maybe
I
can
ask
gavin
how
that
would
look
like
and
then
see
how
it.