Jenkins Google Summer of Code Office Hours, 12 Feb 2020

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Regular Jenkins' Google Summer of Code SIG meeting with status updates and Q&A. Agenda and meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H0gJt1zdr37YDpuSLXSeFqYco_a_CIrAuZ1f0Oyl4XE/edit#heading=h.fj247b9fsi9k

A

Hi everyone, today's a regular and cool summer pop out the date today's February 12 mark ejects and is unable to run the today's session is busier. So please buy use me and we have a lot of people on the call. We have several students potential mentors so we'll run our common agenda. I will start from short corny, but students who just adjourned to ask few questions. Then we will discuss application status, other open action items and then we will have Kanaly section for long the questions if you're having so that's what I did.

A

If anyone wants to add additional topics, just make suggestion in the Google Doc, the Google Doc is space that we now get a chat. So you can just open the link and make a suggestion should be publicly available for everyone.

A

Okay, so that's the plan. Let's does anyone have any short questions which we couldn't discuss in the beginning.

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B

So well for me, the I've been delighted to have submissions from students of pull requests to to repositories. That's been really great, I assume that's a good pattern and we want to keep encouraging that. Can you confirm that that that's a good way for them to get started to pick up a newbie friendly bug and submit a pull request so that they learn how the project interacts? Yeah.

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That's why we post to any different ages, so yeah, that's the whole idea there. So anybody who is reading project descriptions you can follow the links. We have newbie friendly issues, which is specific to a particular project and fall published. We at least provide some guidelines and preferably links so, for example, if you want to work on debugging performance, you can find it.

A

There are something like 10 million dishes and you can pick them to study at the code base and to polish your proposals, and if there is not enough different issues, we also have a link to the global page.

A

Maybe we should replace at this link, because now we have more sources but yeah. So this is one of potential sources of media friendly tickets. We put a take and yeah. If you are looking for something more, we have Jenkins are your participate page and there also we have any veteran dishes linked from different locations. So, for example, for code you can find more links here.

A

You come a snippet from Nicias in Jenkins ela, so basically the same link as our JSOC page, but we should probably make it happen, real issues which we didn't do before, but now you can find awesome game. Some wishes in github, which you could address same for. Documentation are things you can find: Nemo friendly tickets and some hints on these videos.

A

Thank you thanks very much.

A

Okay, any other questions we.

C

Have our current re Qi participant would like to mentor on google Summer of Code? We think this is wonderful. We really welcome her contributions on her volunteering her time. How do we go about announcing or formalizing that role for her.

A

So, in the current stage we do have formal mentors. We have potential members, okay, so basically it's a list of contributors who are interested in this project, some conditions. So when you add yourself to a list of potential mentors, you don't commit to mentor a project, you don't accept.

A

Well, you didn't make any kind of commitment, except the fact that students will be able to see your name and pink. You mean the recommended channels, so that's it. So if anybody wants to join as a potential mentor to any project, just add your name to the list. That's.

B

It and so the submit a pull request to this pay or to be to the matching page proposing your name. We add it as a as a mentor exactly as a potential mentor yeah. So we have.

A

Ups, the second project was about bootloader I'm, oh it just doesn't have Jenkins X here so yeah I'll, probably because so, for example, let's take this project IDs immediately by Clara, so yeah, but I saw the description and if you want to add yourself as a mentor, the biggest way to do that. Just click on em from this page- and you will see our ski dog page with metadata and you can at your Jenkins your ad here, great yeah.

A

It may additionally steps but because now it's based on our authors but yeah, if you just submit a pull request with update, we will be able to get you.

A

Any additional questions.

D

With respect to Jenkins X project, we need to keep discussions limited to the G sub judice analog. Could we take the discussion to slack.

A

You Mitch luck for Jenkins sites.

D

A

For genital sex, you should definitely use slack, so they think he submitted an Inc, JSOC C so current. Maybe you would like to update it to do the slack reference. Okay.

C

Oh yeah, I I, put it to the I, put the link to the original issue in the mailing list. But okay I'll put the link to the for discussion to the Jenkins ex slack channels. Yeah.

A

Jenkins likes it might be convened, especially if you have a special channel, Fujisaki meters or for JSOC slash outreach. You other programs, because if you just put a link to the developer, Andy State me developer channel, it may be, but it's up to you. Okay,.

C

We don't currently have that channel so, for now it will be the developer channel and that slack is actually the kubernetes slack. So we'll look into developing another channel for mentoring programs. Think that's a very good idea. I, like okay.

A

So if something.

A

Needing site, please let me know, because when we created this framework, we didn't have to use kisses for slug and right now you can see here that yeah actually, why we get. This thing is because the metadata is implicitly pulled because you don't overwrite it, so we probably to make some changes to make it happen.

C

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I'm, just looking: okay, let's take India coverage.

A

It's a bit example because it it takes me to get there from seek. What do you have like an installation manager tools so so here the chat link means a special Gator channel and here how its implemented just has links metadata too bitter mm-hm. So probably we could it something like that or just a chart. English supports for URL, because.

D

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Guess what we need to put forging sex projects and use a link which is listed on this page Rajan, said slash community Lloyd, so we potentially need to just put a link to this location right. Yes,.

C

That would be very good.

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Some programming.

D

Api I think I suggested that we form a friend get a chance.

D

To miss we didn't follow up on that. So is there any plan to get a child? How are we going to do? Those discussion? Is the use of channel cell for each project for the guitar tracks, API.

A

So as long as long as there is no traffic makes sense to Jay sock channel what we, what we usually do, we create channels so that it's almost 100 probability that they will be the decade channel, but as a part of applications. So they would be up to potential members and champions they prefer to paint another channel. Why not?

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D

Thank you so much Julie yep.

A

So here I think it's fun to kick it in.

E

And is there any kind of a get? A general low is something like for.

A

Because, yes, all windows services, you open it here and then it gets you to plot from special interest book. So this is the channel. You should recommend it for this project.

A

Yep so in the case of doubt, ask in the gesso cricketer. But we try to point people to specific channels when it's possible.

B

Okay well and that's a good reminder that that that link on the project page is a trustworthy link. So if we make a mistake in that link will go correct it through pull request to Jenkins that IO.

A

Okay, any other questions.

A

If not, let's work on him, we also have Connie at the end of the session. So if you have any new questions, suggest, let's postpone them to the end. That was a question from mark about the timeline. So I will just put the link here.

A

Okay, so today is February 12th, so we are Solway between these phases, so on February 5th should be submitted to our final application. Thanks a lot to everyone in the reviews, this application is available on our website so which kids the same, and now we are waiting for Google to make final decision where we accept or not. This decision will arrive on every 20s. So after that we will know that we are sceptered and that we will get at least one project slot.

A

So basically it means that the google Summer of Code for Jenkins happens, and then we will start all the prep work. So we will. There will be a lot more students reaching out because Google publish the 2020 site with reference to participating organizations. Drink is filled with. There will be new project tags, it will possible to discover Jenkins project and hopefully we will get a lot more traffic.

A

Their most active part starts so until much 31st, basically.

A

Discussions with students we already have several students who submitted the project proposal drafts the day will be a lot more of them. Hopefully, and our main objective in this period will be just answer. Questions provide some feedback and project proposals and to help students who are interested too do the submissions. So this is the place where we are not really proactive. We just handle a lot of requests, but at the same time we need to ensure that all our ideas I moved to the published and state there shortly after February 20th.

A

So if you go to our page and see that that is a lot of project ideas which are in drafts, some of them are not so huge technical reasons, because we need convert them to ask IDO some, because we are missing items. For example, if you take Jenkins X project, IDs needs to have family issues etc. Oh we already have been so Imperium is incorrect.

A

Big Start Guide, but it's monitoring which can be delivered quick and we can indeed have these projects published so I hope you'll be able to move the most of the projects to the published by the end of February. And yes, that one month of discussions, these discussions will be quite hot in the last week, especially because the blen driven.

A

But after that we will have a selection phase, which is one month. But this one months is quite hot months for manners and opinions because we create mentor teams. So basically my my mentors and students. So this is where you have communications with mentors with regards to their commitment, because we will expect all matters.

A

Coming time to that, and it will be a project mapping and after that community bonding and encoding. So you know these phases we can probably discuss later, but yeah. The public part starts only in me, but course is through a lot of work before it happens.

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C

My my question are like I follows on from what you've said and and it's on the list further down with duplicate projects, so both versus Jenkins X projects are in the proposed list and then one is duplicated in the yep.

D

C

Under discussion is, what does it take to move it out of that ongoing discussion list.

A

It's just a single political is to be shared in also the file. Yes,.

C

What what would you like to see in that pull request just.

A

Removing a file, maybe yeah, so how its organized all right now I understand why it's complicated here, because for this type we just link developer manifest okay. So let's take a look using another project, so I'm just clicking improve this page. I do not go to the key to get hurt, but you can see that we are on github and there is a folder project radius. So each project has an entry here and, for example, for Jenkins eggs. We have one two and this is from the one which needs to be removed.

C

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So this is metadata. Issue was created by me, so I will just delete this file. Jake.

B

See this is cool, live github, not just live coding, but live github, poor request creation.

A

Unfortunately, we still don't have automatic labeling, but it's real credit, so yeah here we go but yeah. If anyone wants to make some suggestion to project ideas and for what it was any other page from JSA or the forests more less than the same, you can prove this page and then you can modify it great.

C

Thank you. Okay,.

A

Yeah 1h sneaking Wes.

A

Okay, so on the next question was actually about a incoming project IDs. So right now we have.

A

I, don't have mouse, so all right, okay! Well, we are here now we have 700-800 project IDs, which are for fully accepted so twin selector. They will match all criteria and we also have a bunch of project IDs, which new condition elections. If I understand correctly. One of action items from the previous meetings was to move jinkies, REST API. Another topics, discussion list.

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D

I would like to move.

F

The mouse but I don't know if we want to keep them somewhere so.

F

Ok, just bringing them yes.

A

Or removing them is the most straightforward way, keep.

A

Turning away is to start a discussion and a developer. My latest say that ideas which we would consider doing, but we don't have anyone interested and then we move with them but ongoing discussion. But it's a more complicated step. I.

F

A

If you want to just start that threaten the developer, many piece I can modifier with purposes. If not, let's just remove them.

F

Okay, I'll, let you know.

A

What was the least.

A

Bit bucket rest, api is probably the same as others with us. Yes, new is listed here, I think in the way you would be able to be a little mentor there, but I didn't get that response so far, so I'll do my best effort. If not, we will move further to in the Greenway code. Corrosion from acid stains, Poland ocarina, just stays leave average probably stays in doctrine. Yes, so we are for this ideas. We just need to move them to Yama, sorry to ASCII doc from Google Doc. Unfortunately, that was not straightforward narration.

A

You can respond up for that, but Google injects a lot of metadata, which needs to be money will be moved from Rome exported pages. So it takes time yeah for junk sex I think we can do it quickly for the this one's.

F

Okay, so Oleg do you want? Do you want to convert all the Google Docs to.

F

To the a doc in as pull requests and remove the Google Docs altogether,.

A

Policy so I just interpreted how it's written right now and my assumption was that required to relate to ask a dog to get a lady to dance. At least.

F

A

If this is good, if you think that we can just keep a separate project IDs with Google and it's a surprise to save us some time.

F

Because it's what sometime it could save us some time to keep using the Google Docs. Yes, okay, so I, don't my idea when I wrote this page that you are showing is not to forbid Google Docs, it was to say it's optional, so maybe that is not clear.

B

So Martin, just for I'm trying to be sure, I understand I, like the notion of having an a docx file as an idea that we have a record of version controlled. Is there is your concern that that's too much overhead I'm, not sure, I'm understanding your concern? There.

F

Concern we've, the Google Doc was really easy for us. It was really easy for for students to provide, like some students and other mentors, could comment on the Google Doc. Without opening a couple requests. It was a very low barrier of entry to use Google Doc to discuss to discuss the project ideas that was the original intent was to have a very low barrier of entry.

A

Because the rendering still works the way up to box, probably metadata example3, it's only needed and yeah the problem that they don't have permissions, but yeah. That's why? One of the reasons why dogs also becomes a kind of bar.

F

But there's drawbacks. Yes, that's one of them! You have to find the owner of the document. Yep.

A

So but yeah! So if you agree that.

D

A

Keep googling as option for published ideas. I can press it and publish maybe five babies right away.

F

It's fine with me to continue to use Google Docs.

A

Okay, so I think we can just allow it save some time.

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Open action items.

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One acting a one-act meeting we had from previous months is student travel, blog post.

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So we've got fun published this weekend is forbidden.

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It's here to give up small junk as well. We also have one must itched by private change and if that's me,.

G

A

Thanks a lot to be there and we definitely get more this one's so one for by parishes, already staged I hope you know, publish it, maybe tomorrow all three dependent on the competitors capacity. So we are waiting for long.

A

Okay, any other explanation: we're missing.

A

Okay, so we can spend more time on Coney and our church was quite active. So there was a question about automatic specification generator, so I think.

H

Yes, so the open API does swagger, which you have said to me. The links.

H

I have queried the same thing in our mailing list. Also, Martina has do you given sources, a stapler can I know how can I start with.

A

So the most straightforward. So what is the objective right now to export the area, also contributing.

H

So I have done the basics about how to generate from swagger, swagger and open APA, how to process automation, automatic yeah.

A

So one of things you could consider there may be a the first step, so in Jenkins we have some annotations I provided by step up. So, for example, here that was exported to notation.

A

So here you can see that there are two kinds of notations we can take, for example, okay, so if you browse change, lots and Jenkins, you can also access them undress. Dpi here you can see that the data container contains exported me, which basically sets a notation that this class may be exported, and it also has some exported fields.

A

Example, here items kind means and what you could do is a first step to just create, maybe a simple parser which part processes these annotations and generates skeleton swaggered output, because it would be one of the first steps for the project and it's something which could help you to study how step there works, how annotations work and how you can extend that.

H

Annotation with that exported Rd means, are they the request to the server Oh.

A

So yeah it's forget request so in Jenkins yeah I can inject shown. Example.

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Okay, so we have a job yeah, which is quite old whatever, and here you can see about interesting.

H

Okay, take your fine now.

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H

A

So he yeah here you can just click, do so material whatever and you get a kind of output. So this is an output which is basically a better SDK, and this house is generated by these export annotations and other things. It doesn't cover all the Jenkins REST API, but it's probably because we should use for initial exploration, because it's relatively simple and you just try pulling connotations and generating some machine readable documentation for it. The first step and.

H

One more query: it's like: we have to go through code and we have to pass the we have to get the exported functions and then we have to pass them and we have to generate the rest API documentation right. Yes,.

A

Something like that, so it may be a bit difficult because.

H

A

So if you're interested there is, there are already some implementations. For example, we have part set which generates extension points, documentation on Jenkins, and we also have parser, which generates pipeline documentation.

A

What we'll show you the second one Jenkinson and here's.

A

My plan so pipeline steps doctor generator so again it's a code which goes through plugins and generates some documentation. So for you it could be a good starting point to see how a similar function is implemented and you could try integrating with, for example, foxsports organizations.

A

And does anybody also have comments about this project?

A

I'm gonna show her. The Kristen is on the call today.

A

Yeah, hey I'm here.

H

Continued if anyone.

H

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Our barometers for STP I can see it's me and Kristen I believe I.

H

Issues for these are you a un Cristal yep.

A

So what it means we are listed wait-listed he has potential mentors, so we might be available for this project, but it really depends on multiple conditions, like other applications on capacity, because everything may change in the next few months.

A

So hopefully, everything goes well and I believe that for this project we can find no potential Mentors, so each Big Data subject on February 20th. We will be reaching out to join contributors to find more potential Mentors, but yeah I hope that this project happens. I.

H

Will let you know whatever my next week next week next week, sweetie oh.

A

Thank you any other questions. Thank.

H

E

This rapper, and here we open to a convert those XML parser to my image, so I think in other plugins as well. There are some extremely imputation, I. Think I ain't, wanna, run I process, clear directive, mapping those things so I think we are hoping to do a kind of a full refactoring relationship or just cut them into.

G

Ml, so for me so yeah I.

A

Would expect that this project still supports xml's, but it gets additional supports for UML's. So it's not something you replace one by another, but it's something to be discussed as a part of your proposal, because if you can justify switching to llamo entirely, it can be discussed and it's up to you to create this proposal. So project idea just narrows it to particular items which would be nice to address which could be improved, but your proposal may be quite different from the idea and for this particular project.

A

If you come up with something original list, you can consider that even if not fully aligned with the idea for your modes.

A

You think they'll certainly.

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A

You, if not thanks everyone and let's meet again next week, if you have any questions meantime, when you open use only channels, so hopefully you'll have Jenkins EXO channel linked properly in few days and for the rest, just either.

C

Thank you thanks.

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F

Thank you thanks. Thank.

C