Jenkins Google Summer of Code Office Hours, 19 Feb 2020

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Regular GSoC SIG meeting with Q&A and status updates. Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H0gJt1zdr37YDpuSLXSeFqYco_a_CIrAuZ1f0Oyl4XE/edit#heading=h.mf9bb4x5oypt

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It should be recorded, knock. Everyone today is February 19th, so we have a regular google Summer of Code office hours. You don't understand our agenda, so you start from a short Kony. So if anyone has questions just ask, then we will have projects in couple of days and then you have more time for Cooney. If you have longer questions or if you have technical questions, this is the best to discuss that.

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Okay, we have a number of new people on the call and if you have any questions just ask now before we proceed.

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You are, you want.

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There was a balloon, a question about project proposal yeah, but regarding specific.

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Can you go.

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So let's take a look at the JSOC timeline, so this timeline.

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And you can see that official student application begins in one month so on much 6/10 31st the application deadline. So this is at the time when you will be able to send your proposals on the geosoft website, and this is what is the application needs before that you can Center your proposal drafts to the mailing fees, go to the guitar channels and respective projects, and then they can be reviewed. For example, I.

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Will just open project IDs to show you an example? Oh here we have one project with external fingerprint storage, and here we already had one proposal submitted, so you can just go to the website, find the channel mailing list or bitter chat, and here you can find that there is a student asking about the project Smith and if you go to the mailing list, you can also find a thread post.

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The first project, ID area- it's here, so you it's quite earlier, but submitting a project like this- gives you more time to complete feedback from potential stakeholders. And here you can see the proposal to be honest. I'm still get to review it because I'm quite behind after two weeks being caught but yeah. The proposal is here and you can do the same once you have for the first draft, just submit it and start the discussion using kinda channel. You can find.

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Better to postpone it to the like session, so we can discuss it here.

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What's waitin because it's project specific zones better to discuss it when we have more time to deep dive? And you.

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Can also ask questions on the channel to totally leaking on the Gator channel tree. That way, we can answer them too, as well.

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Okay again, the quick questions before we proceed: I.

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Joined a little later, I saw my proposal did something happen. I.

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Just was using it as an example of how to submit project drafts before the application to get 3 news and yeah I promised to provide some feedback this week.

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Did everything right.

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Ok, so any other questions.

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Okay, well then, let's just take a look at update, so the main update would be that we are waiting for the announcements. You can see that the list of prominent organizations will be published tomorrow, writer named being muted or 6:00 p.m. VDC. So right now we don't know whether Jenkins project is accepted or not. I will know soon. So let's keep our fingers crossed, but yeah we do all the preparation work so right now we can just look in addition to just waiting what we discussed at the previous meetings.

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We still can work on project ideas, so you can keep refining this list and you can see that the many project IDs have been moved to the accepted state. So now we had a bunch of ideas here, but we still have some ideas in the draft state, so my ask for everyone would be to consider finishing them. Usually they are stuck on the state because they need good stuff guidelines on new batch and wishes. Example.

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I started: writing automatic specification generator and just didn't finish it, but for the project's say, it means the same after that we can formally move them to the acceptance status and hopefully interest from students, because given with documentation explaining what the statuses mean sometimes logic, babies are considered as months which are not ready to be treated.

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We could consider changing Ninian, but yeah. That's what we have right now and we have 6 IDs on this list. So it's specification generator and build back a drastic carry, but my understanding that we should move it to the ongoing discussion section as well, because martin has stepped down, and I was unable to get a response from shinu well he's based in Beijing, so I'm not sure what does his current connectivity but yeah right now. I have no confidence that we will be able to run this project idea.

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So discussion, state and quad-core hepi, custody distribution, service minded mutation, Jenks, remote monitoring. Call this I guess can happen, but we need to finalize the descriptions to move them.

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I'll get a DRN today to get the bitbucket moved back to draft mm-hmm.

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Yeah so yeah, it would build great to start them in this discussion because yeah what we need. It's not just Hamdi a status update, but we really need their threat because that's how I'm going discussion is implemented right now, for example, here if I click, instead of going to the plug-in the JSOC side and just getting to the main encased, so we will need a threat like that.

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Yeah thanks to Mark II 400, good, ok, so, regarding other statuses- and we reached the number of 20 potential mentors again get accepted tomorrow, we will be doing some promotion to get more potential Mentors. You can see that there are many important ideas have just one man talks right now, it's fine and we will be doing outreach, which we know for sure that we accepted. But if you see some project ideas where which want to mentor, you can just add yourself to this list so that we expand the number of contacts keen.

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So, firstly, we had 35 potential Mentors by the beginning of the student application things. That's how many images we'll have this year.

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Okay, so I there was no other updates from me. Maybe somebody else has any updates to it.

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I can give an update in regards to the machine learning project. We have started to schedule student interviews and we have a document that myself and the other mentors are going over and we're gonna be reaching out to students to set up those interviews.

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Yeah, so student interviews isn't something we generally require for project ideas, but if mentor teams wanted to invest additional time, it's a good thing to do. Usually we just do some discussions at office, hours, etc. Yep setting up additional requirements is totally in powers of mentor things yeah.

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The reason we decided to do it for the machine learning project because there's some specialization that's required in the area of machine learning. We wanted to make sure that we weren't setting any potential students up for failure or over committing to something that they may not have at least a basic understanding before embarking on it. Yeah.

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That's a great thing to do so why we don't do it for all students, just the cost of the bandwidth. We discussed it a few times just addressed respectives but yeah, how much possible it's just difficult to have enough time for that.

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People were already to invest the time. It's much appreciated.

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Any other things.

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So application status check.

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Oh yeah, oh, like I, just wanted to say, I've, updated the guidelines for creating templates.

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Creating project ideas.

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Project idea, templates or project proposal template project.

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At a PR is pending, though alright, so we need to have some reviews.

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Yeah I did one review cycle, but at that point it was failing, so I guess ditched the poll that you on my side.

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So I provided an update for that.

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Thank you so just clarifies how we make proposals and again, if we get us up to tomorrow, we will have additional call for project ideas. Maybe we'll be able to get more, and it's really important. So thanks for doing that,.

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Okay, do we have any other Chuseok related food quests? Oh yeah, that's on me. I still haven't published the purchase blog post for Lisbon I'll. Do it after the meeting.

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So what occurring on the application status check? Basically we discussed in the beginning. We just wait till tomorrow and then we, the celebrate or con a retrospective, but fingers crossed that everything goes well: okay, open action items, so this requests which are pending and what else we had. We needed to update channels for Jenkins eggs, because Gingka sexy doesn't use a heater and apparently we had it there channels already in the framework. So now, if you go to the Jenkins X project ideas, they just redirect you to the community pages of Jenkins X with slicks.

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So this is just addressed and if anyone is interested, Jenkins X project egg is or please use for these channels. Yes,.

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The slack channels for Jenkins X are part of the kubernetes slack, so you have to join the community slack and then you can choose the channels to join.

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Thank You Cara and jinks X project IDs and on the published state. So we addressed all the criterion s efficient ones.

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Okay, what did you have? So we had an open my a question about just client project ideas, thanks Martin for dressing, but.

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He is good suit, so we still need travel post from wrong. I will think him to be, and while we are talking about travel, did everyone get the reimbursements for mental circuits and other events.

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Yes, I did I think you still have one outstanding right, Oleg.

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Yes, for me, it's still pending, but will eventually went in my account. So there was some proposition I mean just to make PDF I'm, not sure.

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So any other action items which we are missing.

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You you you on this model, so they're, basically ballistas almost empty, which is great because if you get upset tomorrow, we will get huge searching in traffic from potential interested students. So if you have any time reserved from better to dedicate it to the discussion service, students, reviewing project proposals etc, and next week's build upon.

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Kara I'm going to add, if you're in agreeance I'm going to add my name, is a potential mentor to the Jenkins X add-ons right now, I think it's just James and Neha.

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Sounds great Marky you're you're very welcome to do so. Thank you. Thank.

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Okay, so any other topics to discuss before we start Connie.

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My question to new people on the call, if you need any clarification, if you want to understand something or know more about how we operate in jae-seok, this just ask you.

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hmm I guess everyone's right.

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I would like to so I see someone on the call that who contacted me recently and I just wanted to know if you wanted to do. If you wanted to do some if there's potential mentors on the call or students I think Michael contacted me recently to inquire about mentoring. So, do you have specific questions Michael regarding that I.

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Don't have any specific questions right now, I've been working through the composed project, ideas I do printed mentoring almost any of them, but someone who needs a commenter.

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Yeah, so you can just put your name several ideas. You have the most interested in thinking. This is about potential Mentors. So it's not that you commit to this particular project idea what you don't commit at all at the moment. So it's just indication that you might be interested and it will help or careens to state the discussions in the next phases if you get accepted so that we can do minor things. Okay, okay, if you have any specific interest, just put your name here and again, a beast: you can unbirth for more project ideas.

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So if you have anything specific in mind, you can just make a proposal in Maine increased and we can fine-tune it to make it an official project idea.

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On Michael, if you have any questions or you want more information, don't hesitate to reach out in the in the getter channel on or if you want to reach out to one of the org admins. Please built for you by all means. I appreciate.

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That thank you.

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This particular request, like.

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Building into building stand will stand us according to the type of request.

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So Jenkins we have two parts of REST API one is a great REST API and another part is the rest. So, for example, here you can go to almost any page of Jenkins and you can see.

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Here you can see a REST API link which points you to the API provided by this page, and this is a getter K. So basically, you can just get a JSON appearing with some bunch of parameters. If you need- and this is how we.

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Example, so this is where you can get some initial API and the information from that methods, but if you want to have delete a PS, etc, they implemented quite a different. Therefore you want we can take a look, but to get the repair. Is that the most thing simple thing.

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The CPI is focused, throught, emerging model objects, so, for example, jobs. Ok,.

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The build status of jobs and status, total status rate yeah.

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A suspect the KPI is just a suppressed origin can say, oh, so that's why we get empty JSON, but yeah I can show you another instance, but yet idea that you have this attorney for you page like job pH of Bill Fitch, you can access rustic area and get some aggregated information so how it happens, for example, we can take us go to the link is convinced- and here we have your Java example.

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So job is just an entity which it represents all kinds of jobs and surprisingly robust and Jenkins- and here you can see that some organizations but actually accessible from REST API, because it's mono logic, so all more model objects, I accessible through REST API, and here you can just scroll down to the code and receive it. There are some my exported feels like you are among the few and whatever so.

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These hints, which I returned by our SDK and the Jenkins user, strengthens framework stapler to aggregate these annotations and to do producer, SDK response, so automatic specification generator. We basically expect that somebody does similar processing and uses it to generate specifications of api's instead of regular sponsors.

C

Getting the exported, annotate and noted functions and automating the process in open appears generate this API documentation automatically right, yeah.

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It will be the first step, but it's just forget it guys. We also have other kinds of forestay pairs, so you can just Google REST API Jenkins, which is probably not the best documentation page. So it's still on wiki. We need to move it.

D

It's also a good opportunity, this part of this, to make sure that we move this over to the main site and also leave it.

A

There this page is that an updated there are other links in project ID which might be more relevant but yeah. Let's take a look at this job page so better, for example, methods which start from do example, do RSS change lock. So this method, for example, returns you RSS, changelog and normally it's also part of REST API. As far as strength is concerned, because, basically it doesn't make any differentiation for it or we can take something most specific example. This method, which returns skills for the context menu- it's also REST API.

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So that's how I think it's front-end talks to Jenkins server in order to retrieve this data or do config submit it. It's a REST, API method for submitting the documentation submitted a figuration, and here you can see that it's not even my post. So it's not a great method, it's post method and REST API, which does configuration submission. So we should talk about this story in general.

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It would imply it studying housing, REST, API work, and you have mentors who are experienced with that and who provide control context, but still they will be a lot of traversing code. Proximities annotations and generating the best afford REST API specification.

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Questions right, yes,.

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You can just go to the respective channel, so here, what's the cook on this project ad, we have a link to the chart and in this case it points to the documentation special-interest go. So you can just go here and ask any questions you have about our SDK.

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The post and the gate, annotations click, not exactly get the post annotations or do the function starting window, and we have to mainly scrap according to situation,.

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So still, it's a very simplified view of how jingoistic air works, because there is a lot of other things. For example, these methods can be parameterized.

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So you should start this plug-in development now, and this helps you to prepare your project application. So if you do not expect the students to complete their projects or to create their prototypes as a application process, we know that you study, you have a lot of other assignments. So your main goal now is to click, prepare a good project proposal, but if some prototype and helps fill.

C

Through the links which mentioned today about.

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And you know the question.

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Something for me crystal. Maybe you would like to add something about the SDK.

D

No, the big thing for me is like: let's we can also, you know it's like. Don't have to wait till next time to ask questions like a whole week feel free to jump in a channel and ask and there'll be other people that can maybe help give ideas to you about, like things that are working on help automatically do documentation as well, so yeah feel free to jump in whenever that's a good advice for any potential applicant on the foot on the call.

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Just let me have a question they'll feel free to reach out over the piece off channel and reach out over the channels that may even listen in the proposal pages. Everyone in the community is incredibly helpful and they want you to succeed so.

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And you have the topics.

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You so they are one thing which you usually discuss about. These are our office hours, so we don't set an objective to stay online for 45 minutes and to ship the topics so now, I, specifically during their coding phrases and application phases, we will be a closing down the basic reverse. We discussed everything so yeah. If you have any questions somebody to join earlier, because if you generate maybe we might be able to do fine.

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We do not stick.

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Yeah, so what I was trying to say that we actually do not stay 45 minutes.

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Okay, so if there is no other topics to discuss today, thanks everyone and again, let's keep our fingers crossed. So we in time for the results and then we will make sure to finally our post videos, because I realized that I forgot to post a video from their previous logistic off sounds.

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You already have a good day evening, I'm.

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I think so too, everyone for you interest, google Summer of Code.

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Bye now bye thanks.